Latest / The Action Catalyst / REMASTERED: Turning Ordinary to Extraordinary, with Mark Sanborn (Leadership, Customer Service, Sales, Author)
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- 0:00Host: Are you in for an absolute treat, we have one of the
- 0:04world's most brilliant and premier thought leaders as a
- 0:08guest on today's show. Mark Sanborn is one of the world's
- 0:12most sought after experts in leadership and customer service.
- 0:15Mark is in the professional speakers Hall of Fame. He's an
- 0:18international best selling author of seven books, including
- 0:21The New York Times bestseller, The Fred factor, which has sold
- 0:24over a million copies worldwide. Mr. Mark Sanborn, thanks for
- 0:28being with us.
- 0:29Mark Sanborn: Thank you, sir. appreciate the kind words.
- 0:31Host: Yeah, so tell us for those people who don't know who is
- 0:34Fred, and why does he matter to us?
- 0:37Mark Sanborn: Fred is a real life postal carrier here in
- 0:39Denver, Colorado, who takes that ordinary job of putting mail in
- 0:42a box and makes it truly extraordinary. I mean, the guy
- 0:46is an artist at creating value for his postal route customers,
- 0:51or relationship building, and just kind of reinventing what
- 0:53most people would think would be a pretty dull or redundant or
- 0:56dead end job. And the point of the matter is, is that if Fred
- 1:00can reinvent delivering the mail, if he can take a very
- 1:03simple job and make it extraordinary, then you're I
- 1:07have no excuse for taking whatever work we do and adding
- 1:11more to it and doing it differently so that it adds
- 1:14value to the lives of the people around us. The premise of this
- 1:17book is how do you keep that momentum going, you know, how do
- 1:20you sustain it, when, in reality, you don't always get
- 1:23appreciated or recognized or rewarded for doing a great job.
- 1:26If we lived in a perfect world, maybe you would. But as I've
- 1:29talked to people over the years, occasionally, they'll utter some
- 1:33of the saddest words you'll ever hear. And those are the words I
- 1:35used to somebody will say, Well, you know, I used to do that. But
- 1:38then I got burnout, or I used to do that. But I got taken
- 1:41advantage of. And I think so often people end up putting the
- 1:45locus of responsibility outside themselves. But what I find is,
- 1:49is that people that do the extraordinary, they don't do it
- 1:52necessarily for recognition or compensation. That usually
- 1:56follows it often does. But at the end of the day, you do it
- 1:59because A, it's the right thing to do. Be because you can and
- 2:04see because it ultimately enriches your own life. And
- 2:07that's really what the Fred factor is about.
- 2:09Host: One of the things that you you wrote about Mark, which I
- 2:11love is called your signature difference.
- 2:14Mark Sanborn: Well, we all have an opportunity to make a
- 2:15positive difference every day. But the question is, are you
- 2:19able to add your own unique signature to that difference you
- 2:22make and what are the great examples is giving someone
- 2:25encouragement is a difference that we're all pop, we're all
- 2:29capable of making in the lives of those around us. But a man I
- 2:32met many years ago named Fred Stork is a world class gardener
- 2:35and he loves roses. So when he encourages somebody, he sends
- 2:38him one of his award winning roses. Or if someone's facing a
- 2:42difficult time, they'll send him a bouquet of his rose. And so he
- 2:46adds that unique factor. I'm a gardener, I love roses, but I
- 2:49also like to make a positive difference. So the question I
- 2:52always ask people is, what is your unique factor? Where are
- 2:56your talents and passions overlap with the job that you
- 2:59do? So that you can add kind of a flourish that makes it unique
- 3:03to you in the book, I talk about a restaurant owner, may Wiggins
- 3:08who in in the Deep South, who hugs her customers now, you
- 3:13know, not all of us could get away with hugging our customers.
- 3:16But she's the kind of woman that just delights people with her
- 3:19warmth and hospitality. So that's her signature difference.
- 3:23Host: Sure, that is so powerful, just that uniqueness is nothing
- 3:27other than where your talents and your passions overlap, where
- 3:30they where they intersect, that leads to an elevated experience.
- 3:35How do you know if you really hit the mark, of delivering an
- 3:38elevated experience for your customers?
- 3:41Mark Sanborn: In the book I talked about four ingredients,
- 3:43but there's one that's key. And I say, first of all, you know,
- 3:46any experience has to deliver value. The second thing and
- 3:49elevated experience, AWS has an element of surprise. And it's a
- 3:53good surprise, you know, it's not an unpleasant surprise, like
- 3:55you expected, wait 10 minutes and waited an hour. But after
- 3:59you've figured out a way to pleasantly surprise people, the
- 4:03key is is that they leave happier. And I think in
- 4:05business, we often look at what we did, and how the person
- 4:09responded, but we missed the point. And that is an elevated
- 4:12experience elevates your moods. So the NBA is a little bit
- 4:15happier than you started the transaction or the interaction.
- 4:19And when people leave happier, the great thing is an elevated
- 4:22experience gets them to tell others and they don't just say,
- 4:25you know, oh, here, here's a place that you might consider
- 4:28when you need new tires. They say things like Man, you've got
- 4:32to go to Bob tire you wouldn't believe what they do or in real
- 4:35life. A Les Schwab Tire you know, Les Schwab has been a
- 4:38client of mine. They know that one of their their signature
- 4:42differences is they run out to greet you hear car, I mean they
- 4:45literally run out to the parking lot and greet you before you get
- 4:48out.
- 4:49Host: That is so cool. I mean, it's such a simple idea but how,
- 4:55like how warm and inviting so simple, I love it. So for
- 4:59everyone listening What is one thing that you think that we
- 5:01could do today to start implementing the power of Fred?
- 5:05Mark Sanborn: Well, here's one simple idea, but it's very
- 5:07powerful if you do it and that is when somebody makes a request
- 5:10of you today, whether it's a colleague, or a customer or a
- 5:13client, or maybe even your spouse and this works, you know,
- 5:16at home because truth is transferable. Lots of people
- 5:19read the book who don't have traditional marketplace jobs,
- 5:22they still get value because they use these principles with
- 5:25their their spouses and their their kids. That is practice
- 5:29ABCD. Ask yourself, What can I do to go above and beyond the
- 5:32call of duty? What's that little bit extra? If somebody asks you
- 5:36for five minutes of your time, give him 10 minutes and go a
- 5:39little more in depth. Somebody asked you how to get somewhere,
- 5:42walk with him and show him.
- 5:44Host: Mr. Mark Sanborn, thanks for being with us.
- 5:46Mark Sanborn: Thank you, sir.