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• Shamus: Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the pork roll egg and cheese podcast. name is James. Herbie: And I'm Herbie. Shamus: And this episode of the pork roll egg and cheese podcast is brought to you by the Village Handyman. The Village Handyman. Our buddy Leonard is just a local guy ready to help improve your home's needs at an affordable rate. You can reach Leonard at 609-784-6862 or at the Village Handyman at Facebook and Instagram, where you can also see a lot of pictures of the projects that they do. And he does do amazing work. Those guys are great. So if you need anything done with your house or any kind of handyman stuff. Give him a c- Herbie: Yeah, give Uncle Len a call. Shamus: And a big shout out to our buddy, one of our previous guests, Brett Stuller, whose podcast booze and tattoos finally dropped at least on Spotify. I didn't check Apple, but I listened to it on Spotify and he did an introduction episode with his buddy. I believe his name is Mike. Okay. Yeah. I know he's on video, so I think he's on you. I saw it on Spotify. So, ⁓ just wanted to say congratulations to Brett and we wish you all the best. was a great episode and we look forward to. ⁓ Herbie: Also on YouTube too. Shamus: Listening to a couple more. ⁓ Keep putting them out. We'll listen. Make sure you guys are listening to him too. He's a really good dude. So, how was your week this week, Herbie? Herbie: was actually pretty good, man. I'm like trying to buy some stuff. I want to get a boat. Oh yeah? Nah, yeah, but hopefully if the force wills it, I'll be owner of a boat. Old dinghy boat. Sport yak. Shamus: Oh, hey, you were just showing me that dinghy. Did he hit you back yet? Well it's like I said, if it doesn't work out, mine doesn't have wheels, but you can have that thing in it. I just don't know if it floats. Herbie: I it's pretty cool, too, Maybe we try to build a little pirate ship, have it on the lake. Shamus: Well, I mean, next week it's supposed to be 90 degrees. So definitely find out. ⁓ Herbie: No, we definitely got to put some yaks in the water, man. Shamus: And no doubt, are you off next Tuesday? Herbie: ⁓ yes. Yeah, cause I work. Maybe I'll take off. Adventures! Shamus: No doubt. Anything else going on? Herbie: just work, ⁓ feeling good. Mom's doing better. So I'm happy with that. Just getting ready to get in the full swing of summer and partying with everybody. Put my, you know, set my grill up that I, ⁓ that I won playing bingo with the, with all the, ⁓ old people. So, you know, I'm starting to get into that, ⁓ old group crowd, but you know, I'm kind of thankful cause I, you know, I have like a bunch of different age group of friends and stuff. So I've got a mix of everything. Shamus: There's one thing about getting older because you know when you're a kid you have just basically your age group Yeah, but then when you become a teenager and stuff like you start hanging out with Big Bob Leonard those guys and that older kids Yeah, you really don't kick it with the little kids because like when you're that age you're like you're fucking geeks Yeah, so but then when you get to be our age man, you have guys in front of you guys behind you Yeah, you know, so yeah, it is. It's it's pretty good age to be out right now Herbie: And now those little ones that were little kids are all like adults now and they're having like their lives too man. It's crazy. But this is definitely, know, like the weather you start cranking tunes and you know, listen to some music. Shamus: Yeah, it's pretty wild. Herbie: birthplace of awesomeness. Shamus: But there wasn't really much like country wasn't really what it like in the 80s country kind of took off a little bit like in the 70s and 60s, it was like Gene Autry, just like Hank Williams and that kind of slow stuff. And. But the 80s, man, it took off. ⁓ yeah. In early 80s, it was like ACDC dropped back in black, like right from RIP and like people were like, holy moly, what is this? Herbie: A lot of experimental sounds and stuff, man. Shamus: So you had that going on and then you had disco still ripping and then like all of a sudden like all that synthesizer shit Started coming out. Yeah, you know like that whip it song Herbie: Yep. ⁓ yeah, Dio, man. Divo. Shamus: What else? The blinded me with science song and all that crazy shit. But that was also the start of MTV. So like everybody was just going crazy. Herbie: Easy. Yup, video killed the radio star. Shamus: and then that Mickey song with that ugly ass cheerleader jumping around. I was just like, man, look at this is crazy. I just remember my uncle's and like my dad kind of like, man, what the fuck? Because it was just either you were a hard rock guy, you're a rock guy like the Eagles and stuff, or you like like the Osmonds or something like that. Herbie: Yeah. This happens. ⁓ my god, the Osmonds, you're bringing some stuff. Shamus: Then like all of a sudden you had these dudes like wearing Tupperware in their heads like the Dio dudes. Yeah. No, it's some ugly cheerleader jumping around on stage. Herbie: And you're like, the fuck is going on? Well, cocaine's a hell of a drug, man. That's when it started coming out, man. Shamus: I mean, it was so out of control. So we stuck a keyboard on a goddamn guitar. Yeah. And then some guitar magazine in the early 80s wanted to do like a keytar versus greatest guitarist battle. Like who's the best? I was like, how are you going to compare? I need a dude playing that shit to clap in or Hendrix or, you know, freely or those dudes. Jeff Beck. Yeah. Yeah. But. One thing that came out of the early 80s that crushed every like everything was kind of taken off. Yeah. But when Thriller dropped. Holy shit. I remember seeing I remember and I'll never forget this. This was actually the world premiere. I don't even know if they actually called it like the world. It was an MTV premiere of Thriller. And I remember the guy. I think his name was Mark Jackson, the first VJ. Yeah. Was just like. Herbie: Dude. ⁓ yeah. Thanks. Shamus: make sure you're comfortable, because this goes like 21 minutes and like everybody around, first of all, we're just getting used to music videos. We have no idea what the hell it is. Yeah. Because some bands like Motley Crue did Livewire and they just, it was just them in a dark room with a couple of skeletons and pentagrams. Oh yeah. And then you got the Dio dudes. Oh yeah. And then you got the blinded me to a science who's dressed up as a scientist like. You had like all kinds of shit going on and nobody really knew. Herbie: The flock of seagulls. Shamus: Like what the standard was. Herbie: Yeah, was like a little three minute clip. just basically the song, a little background, and that's it. Shamus: And then the thriller came out. You're just like, is this a goddamn movie? Like, what the hell is it? And one of the greatest, I wouldn't even say videos, but one of the greatest creation like that is to this day, it's mimicked, it's copied. It's unbelievable. That was just insane. And not to mention the rest of the shit on that album. ⁓ yeah. Billy Jean. Like, ⁓ what's that one song? ⁓ my God, there's so many. Herbie: beat it. Shamus: Oh, a beat it was, I mean, Eddie Van Halen come into the studio and do that like for free. He was just like, yeah, I didn't even know who that guy was. just wanted. That's another great video. Oh, my. Oh, human nature is a song I think about. Oh, Herbie: Why? Tell them that it's human being. Do we that way? Shamus: I love that fucking song. Such an epic cowl, man. You're just kind of like, holy smokes. then you realize, and because he had a lot of great stuff with the Jackson five. Yeah. Yeah. You were just like, hey. Herbie: Yeah, I remember the goddamn cartoon back in the day was yeah, fine. Everything. Yeah, like I said before I went to the Michael Jackson victory tour concert. That was awesome. Shamus: Jackson. They had the big ass half rose with the bell bottoms like all the seventies, like the electric factory background. And I do remember that as a kid. Herbie: Yeah, man. Matter of fact, what was it? had the Victory Tour concert. That was awesome. And for the Thriller thing, I remember when I was in elementary school, they actually brought us into the auditorium and they pulled out the big old TV on the stand with the wheels and we got to watch the Michael Jackson video for the first time. it was just, just blew your mind, man. Shamus: It was absolutely insane and like like I said during that not only did you have like the key Taurus to whatever the synthesizer sound Everybody was cutting their hair short. Yeah It just kind of it kind of looked like the future like 80s we had this futuristic look like you know They just kind of you look back on it now is corny But everybody's going with that but like slowly in the background is where hip-hop started to come in yeah and like you had guys like Grandmaster Flash and Herbie: flashy clothes. Shamus: you know, slick Rick and all those guys, they were starting to the fat boys. Yeah. LL Cool. Well, LL Cool J gets more towards the 80s, but like hip hop really started to take off. Breakdancing. Oh, smokes, dude. If somebody bought a refrigerator, you don't have to worry about recycling that box. Everybody, they would throw that down. Herbie: Break dance. Shamus: ⁓ yeah, somebody bought a boombox and turn it on and every kid in the neighborhood was trying to windmill. They were trying to like, ⁓ we breaking came out and it was over. Herbie: Yeah, ⁓ what was it is that the one with like ozone and turbo and yes, yeah, man ⁓ Shamus: And you were just like, ⁓ like, dude, the early eighties was just adequate. then me being like, in 80, I was only like three. So from my like three to six years old, like because my brother loved music, like my my uncles love music My mom is a huge Motown person. Yeah. So today she died. She loved all the divas more. I carry all them. But she also loved you. And my dad was a huge country and Western guy. Herbie: So I. Shamus: and he kind of dabbled with the classic rock thing a little bit, not too much, but like, and he wasn't really my uncle, he was just a really close friend of the family, was Uncle Mike, but he's called Uncle Jesus, because he looks like, it was probably the guy Brett talked to at the back of the... Herbie: At the Wawa. Shamus: He loves rock to this day. He's recorded stuff for like autism raise money He's worked with Kenny Arnolf, some of the guys from Cinderella. Great artist. He's done cover art for Lecompte and Cinderella and all those guys. But yeah, he used to give me, he was the that gave me, like I got for Christmas one year, I think it was 81, 82. I got like one of them suitcase record players. And my grandma was like here and she gave me. Herbie: That's cool. ⁓ really? Shamus: Like my first album was the Monkeys Headquarters. And I was like, dude, this is great. And like I was playing it upstairs. was like New Year's Eve. My uncle came up because we lived in row homes, the bathroom is upstairs. He come around the corner and I'm in my room listening to the fucking monkeys. And he was like, dude, what are you listening to? And I was just like, and I held up the album cover. Yeah. And he was just like, no, bro. I got you next week. He came back next week. And it was almost like that movie, Almost Famous, where he gave me a crate of stuff. Wow. Herbie: Yes. Yeah. Shamus: and I was like, who this? It was like, know, Tommy the Who, was Jethro Toll, it was the MC5, Kiss, Sabbath, Zepplin. Herbie: Dude, he got you a compilation of everything. Geez. Shamus: Yeah. And now it was just kind of like, but I mean, getting to the eighties, like he was one of those guys like, man, how are you going to compare guitarist to God damn Jimmy Hendrix? It's a bullshit. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, but you know what I think the reason why like MTV hit so well because if you really think about back in the day, there was a radio on always at the house. ⁓ You know, and it was like, not just like my house, your house. was a lot of people had the radio on just listen to me. Like if mom was like, you know, cooking and stuff like that, the radio be on. Shamus: often do you walk in here before we do this podcast and that's speakers. Herbie: Yeah. The radio is always on, man. There's always music. when you have that, you have everyone else listening to music. know, sometimes you have like mom in the kitchen, listen to her music and dad's in his den or in the garage picks and stuff, cranking his tunes. And then you sit there on TV and you get to watch goddamn music videos. Or like you said, you get like, ⁓ the little, you know, the, the, album, the vinyl record player that you got, got to do your own stuff. I'm like, back in my day, I remember when I had an eight track and I had this, ⁓ That was it. But John Travolta, Saturday Night Fever. OK, that was my first eight track. Shamus: I'll tell you what, was a monster album too though. That's what kicked disco off. Man, that was, that was an epic album. Yeah. Herbie: BG's man But I just remember too, cause growing up, I went on vacation with my parents and uncles and stuff like that. And the one girl Tracy, she was the older girl, she was hot. She brought the Prince Purple Rain album. And that was the first time I got to we got to listen to it like all weekend. It was great, too, because I was like, yeah, this is freaking awesome. But I remember growing up in the Bronx. Yeah, we're listening to like Motown and stuff like that. And even like other music. And, I used to like listening to like the Gap Band and Parliament and all that stuff. So I had like the same type of shit. And that was just freaking really cool. Just jam out the prints. You know, it's freaking prints. Shamus: Yeah, I was gonna get to that because as soon as Striller started to lose its momentum. Yeah, like in 83 and 84 that's when Donna came out of nowhere like a virgin every girl on the goddamn planet. Yeah, try to look just like her Yep her and Pat Benatar because she had yeah, I forget the name of her album She had stuff going on and then why that was going on here comes Bruce Springsteen Yeah, I mean he had albums before but born in the USA just I mean Herbie: Purple Ranger. Shamus: Epic, epic album. And that took off so many great songs and that to man cover me. Born in the USA, obviously, Glory Days was one of my favorite great bar song. And I was just kind of like, man, it just it just seemed like every time you turned around, there was like this another. And then, like you said, towards the end of 84, like here comes purple rain. And then you go see the movie. And that's what that's what kind of. Herbie: album just kind of crush it. Shamus: fucked me up about Prince of First because going back to the monkeys thing, uncle was like, you realize these guys weren't even really a band, they were just actors and then they got mad. And I was just kind of like, I'm six years old, dude. Herbie: Yeah, I know all the music, Lori. Shamus: Yeah. So I remember so like when I seen Purple Rain, I was like, so this guy ain't a real musician. He's just an actor. And it's like Eddie and the Cruisers like that. Another great music soundtrack in the 80s. That's not I thought Eddie Cruiser or Eddie Wilson was the guy like Michael Pare. That was his voice. No, it's the Beaver Brown Band. Yeah. And I was just like, what? So like when Purple Rain came out, I was like, ⁓ this guy, you know, great actor, I guess. But a little feminine for me. Yeah. But. And then they're like, no, that's really him. I was like, later on, a couple of years later, but awesome album. Man. Herbie: It's like that 80s rock, but he was more like, he was more androgynous. You know what mean? So he just had the mix of everything and the glam and the glitz. Shamus: He's another one that started that off because right after that, that's when like all them dudes from the Sunset Strip started hitting big. Yeah. Like one of the greatest things I've ever seen in a documentary was the guy who owned. Was it the rainbow or was it the. It was just called the Rainbow. It's a bar on Sunset Strip, everybody knows, or it was the not the what was the whiskey? Herbie: Rainbow Room. Shamus: He said, you know, when Poison's albums looked what the cat dragged in first came out in the picture, all four of them, like all kind of. And he was like, guys were running around the sunset trip trying to find the fucking chicks on the girls on the poison album. So they fuck. That's how much of chicks they look like, because Prince kind of did all that. Yeah. You know, and Roger and the shit. And also, and like every even Guns of Roses first album, Appetite, which came out in 88. Oh, yeah. Like them first videos like Axl's hair was just like jacked up. Herbie: Super Saiyan Goku. Exactly. Shamus: So yeah, that was, mean, like even like old school bands like Kiss, like when Asylum came out, their album. If you watch them videos, Tears Are Falling, King of the Mountain, ⁓ All Night. Dude, those guys look, I was like, are you guys doing? Like 10 years ago, you guys were wearing face paint and black leather and now you look like a goddamn Liberace band. Yeah. Like what the hell is this? So I mean, but that was just the times then, man. Herbie: Well, even with David Bowie, David Bowie and Iggy Pop, like, you know, all that stuff, he was like, just like it was basically because, know, the sunset strip and everything, that's pretty much where you went to get discovered anyway. ⁓ absolutely. Market just got flooded, you know, and you had to stand out to you had to do some weird stuff. know, Iggy Pop, all dancing, all weird and stuff. And David Bowie doing his thing. And I was just like, ⁓ Shamus: Well, Motley came out of there early to lead like that because they were considered hair metal. Yeah. And then after him, there was it was like rat. ⁓ yeah. Skid Row. And then it got to a point where like, hey, man, you played the fucking rainbow last Wednesday. We'll sign you to a deal. Yeah. Like there was bands towards the end of that thing. mean. And the 90s when Grunge came in and kind of killed all that, it was probably a good thing because that shit, it's almost like rap now. It's so oversaturated like rap is dead. Yeah. Herbie: It was like... Shamus: ⁓ And hair metal was starting to get like that because everybody like I was just kind like who the fuck are these dudes, man? Herbie: You know, like Warren and Winger and all this other guy. Shamus: They weren't too bad, I mean, guys like. I'm the boys had a good song, but I mean, like you were just kind of like, these guys really need to be on tour or. Herbie: Well there's a lot of one hit wonders man, cause you remember even Frankie goes to Hollywood? Shamus: And the 80s Herbie: Yeah, it was just booted. Yes There's some people like you don't you know the song but you don't even know the name of the band that did it But you know Frankie how Frankie goes a Hollywood, you know with that relax and he had his little thing with like, know That was when like the iridescent and like glow-in-the-dark t-shirts and all that stuff was going on. Oh Yeah, Like what the hell is like there used to be the parties like in the 2000s and stuff that people used to go to like raves and shit like that and they would have like, the glow sticks and like the paint parties like the end like So they're like that was Shamus: Piper colors. Yeah. Herbie: We had that in the 80s too, trust me. Except you can buy a shirt and it just says, relax on it. And it would just glow in the frickin' dark, man, it was crazy. There were so many people wearing like so many different outfits man It was even like what is in fast times Ridgemount High is like There's like six bet Pat Benatar girls like yeah in the lunch room and stuff You know and there was a lot of girls dressed up like Madonna Trying to pull off, know Michael Jackson with like, you know the jacket in the glove Shamus: Beverly Hills cop when he's in Beverly Hills and what dude guys are weird Michael J. Yeah, both where the guy just stops and starts like ⁓ Herbie: There's a lot of gimmicks and stuff, man. But that's how like that music just kept going. Because like you said, know, MTV just blew up after that. ⁓ Shamus: And like I said, right around the end of all Madonna and Prince kind of set off the drojans thing, which really kicked off like the middle of the 80s from like 84 to like 87. Yeah, because like Cindy Lauper hit big. Yeah, she's so unusual. Yeah. It was probably a little bit earlier than that, like 83, because she was at WrestleMania and all that stuff with Lua. She did. ⁓ yeah. Another great soundtrack. And she was like all fucking glammed out. Yeah, stuff like that. You also had ⁓ Herbie: I know. did the Goonies. Yes. Shamus: during that time, there were so many great bands, like Huey Lewis and the News started hitting big with Back to the Future soundtrack with Power of Love and some of his other stuff I think is so much better. He was great. Phil Collins was coming out on his own. He left Genesis and he was doing his own thing. Like In the Air at Night was the Miami Values thing. There was just so much different music. And like I said, like the fat boy LL Cool J was coming in, like New Edition was putting out. ⁓ their second album, which was awesome. And then that's when they found out they were getting robbed by the record companies and stuff like that. And then you just like right around 85 is when like it really like the hair metal thing really took off because you had like one slippery one wet drop. I believe that was a big six. Yeah, that shit took off like a rock is right. Right around there was hysteria, too, by. Herbie: Bye. Leopard. ⁓ yeah, definitely. Shamus: And that's when like arena rock really took off, man. Like it was ridiculous. Poison dropped. Open up and say, ah, in 87. And I mean, yeah, they were doing it the whole time. But their biggest album was at the end of the 80s. 89 was feel good. Yeah. Well, what was the other one? I was just going to say and just lost it. Oh, appetite was 88. Appetite for destruction. Guns and roses. Herbie: Not the Shamus: I mean, they were just, I mean, every year or two, just had like bangers just like bang, you gotta get this bang. I didn't have enough room on my jean jacket for all them guys. Herbie: Exactly man, you had to the posters and all that stuff too man. Shamus: And not to mention that Iron Maiden was doing there. Iron Maiden, Metallica was chipping away, because the black album was when they went commercial, when they really sold. That was 90 or 91. But like Master of the Puppet, Tried to Lightning, Iron Maiden had like, Christ, they had Killers, they had Power Slay, they had Ace is High. It was just, dude. Herbie: You also had like Megadeth and all that Slayer. Yeah, like Anthrax. just like, it started like changing and like the album covers got more crazy. It was always like a high energy and stuff, man. And you were based on like what music you liked. Like if you were going to like meet people, they really would like, what do you listen to? Shamus: ⁓ yeah. But like I said, in the middle of all that, like you ⁓ air supply. Yeah, Journey was doing everything. There were so many different genres of music that was just banging in the 80s. It was ridiculous. Herbie: It's strong name. ⁓ yeah, they were nailing too. You got like the romantic stuff like anything, you know, the like a lot of the songs for like say anything, you know, and even like I was telling you before some of the bands you're like, you don't even realize they're from another country. You got like men at work and all these other people. The the girl from Yazoo. Yeah, men at work. Australia, you know, I was like, what the is a Vegemite sandwich, man. Clue, everyone do not eat Vegemite. It sucks. Don't do it. Maybe do it as like maybe a food challenge. Shamus: it work Herbie: Like on TikTok or something, yeah, don't really go out there. Don't go to Subway and try to get you a Vegemite sandwich. Shamus: Well, that's how you said that. was another thing about the eighties too, because regardless of what was going on, like just in the charts and like what you were listening to, they had so many epic fucking movies too that needed soundtracks. So like the dirty dancing soundtrack. And that's for all you ladies out there. That movie and soundtrack every I think they're born like as soon as you come out of the wound, the doctor's like, it's a girl. Here's a copy of dirty dancing and movie. And here's a copy of dirty dancing the soundtrack. Know it. Watch it. Herbie: ⁓ yeah Yeah, nobody puts baby in the corner. Shamus: And then you know dad a bunch of like a lot of older songs But I mean like I mean Patrick Swayze fuck on that someone that and it went top ten or something like that Top gun great movie great soundtrack Yeah, I was gonna say anything at Kenny Loggins touched yeah over the top go had a shack Footloose like he was in everything Herbie: Kenny Loggins. Because you also have like, you know, like. Shamus: The Lost Boys soundtrack. ⁓ yeah. One of them. And my buddy, Jarrah, always says we always argue about this. Judgment Night's probably the best soundtrack, which is good. But I mean, there's so many other like Lost. A lot of people sleep on the Lost Boys soundtrack. And that's that's a great soundtrack. Herbie: That dude with the saxophone is like still living it up man with just that one song. Shamus: Me and my one of my lady friends if she's still listening ⁓ She said I thought I always thought that was dancing at first Yeah, when I first saw Rob the like Mulder and I was just like that's the fucking deal with the sax from Lost Boys Yeah, like no idiot Okay, I mean Rob dancing was a big-ass dude too. So I just figured he cut the ponytail in the 90s and So yeah, that was my mistake, but great soundtrack, but then Herbie: ⁓ really? Shamus: The other movies that didn't have such great soundtracks, but they always had the one hit wonder. Yeah. Breakfast Club. Don't forget about me. Simple Minds. Yep. Then you had Pretty in Pink. Yep. Which was OMD. Don't. No, no, no. Wait. Don't you forget about me with Simple Minds. What was the pretty we just did this the other day was. Now it was, don't you forget about me by simple mind. Don't you forget about that was breakfast. Yeah. Pretty in pink was, it's the last song at the county. And we just talked about this yesterday. It's by OMD something and orchestra or some shit like that. ⁓ my God. I'll get it. Yeah. But then you had say anything with John Kuzak holding up that box. Yeah. Gabriel in your eyes. I mean, there were so many great goddamn songs. Herbie: I remember those boomboxes too, man. I mean, these things were like huge. You were getting back to the old like, you know, like rap and everything, man. Those those. my God, were huge. Oh, like 25 D batteries. Shamus: What was that movie do the right thing where he's walking down the street all of a just dies. He goes, and he was like, I need 20 D batteries and do like 20. Herbie: Yeah. ⁓ Shamus: That's why those things wait so long. Herbie: They had the goddamn like after a while they have like, know, they had like, you know light dad like Lights and everything on them. It was just all you really needed was like cardboard box the boom box And you had your own club man, cuz I think is jamming tunes and you know, that's all ⁓ if Shamus: from pretty and pink is if you leave by ⁓ But yeah, you're absolutely right. They actually there's a company that makes them now the same way they did the 80s. They can play cassettes in them and they do have a Bluetooth thing and they're giant. I'm thinking about getting one, dude. All right. Three hundred. I'm thinking about it and it looks exactly like the one me and my brother had when I was a kid. I was like, ⁓ Herbie: do this. They cost that much back in the day, man. That was the frickin' 80s. Yeah. You bought a big ass boombox in the 80s, dude. Yeah. Shamus: Well, like you said, they took so many batteries like me and my brother like the hell it is. It used to come with the plug in the back. Yeah. And my mom be like, you can't play us our electric bills through the gap. Herbie: You Shamus: that thing you'd need a bolt of lightning to start that. play on it. Herbie: 1.21 gigawatts to start that thing, man. Shamus: Hell yeah. But yeah, man, there was so many great albums, dude. Like I said, Bon Jovi, Slippery in Moon, Run DMC, Tougher Than Leather, Appetite. U2, The Joshua Tree, Rattle and Hum, believe. Yeah, that was 89 because I think I was still. That was their live album. That was fucking amazing, dude. Dr. Field, Rhythm Nation by Janet. Dire Straits was killing like there was so many Queen I mean like he died I mean like in the beginning of the 80s they were doing their thing like it was just it was everywhere dude it was so out of control Herbie: And then weird Al Yankovic was here to spoof it all. Shamus: Yeah, that too. Herbie: He was getting his piece of the cheddar too, Shamus: And then I said, like, there were certain people that just went right. Started in the seventies, went right through the days and kept going guys like Ozzy. Um, well, Phil Collins left, Jenison and started his own thing. Billy Idol came out of the eighties. You know what I mean? Herbie: and Matter of he's getting in the whole thing, ⁓ Shamus: Rod Stewart like started in the 70s, but like in the 80s he was he was that dude, man Herbie: Now he kind of sings stuff like Tony Bennett and stuff, man. It's still cool though, but... Shamus: I he looked good. forget where I saw him. It was about this time last year. He doing our military union. He was doing like the American Music Awards or something like that. They were honoring him. Gave him the Icon Award. And he came out and I was like, Oh my God, that guy looks amazing. And he was still dancing and still flirting with the chicks. I was like, man, that's my man. Herbie: Yeah, think wasn't he married back in the day to Stacey's mom from the video? Yeah, you you pull that, Stacey's mom, bro. You're doing it, Shamus: I believe so. Yeah, and he still like he said, always got that English accent. I love to do the gig. Yeah. was like, man, get it. Herbie: You got the stones and stuff too, they did- Shamus: The Stones went right through. Like I said, one of the first concerts I ever went to when I was a kid, my uncle took me, was the Steel Wheels Tour and that was 88 or 89 at that. Herbie: still doing it, dude. Yeah. It's going to get to the point where some of these people are just going to like, know, Keith Richards is still like the, you know, the standing joke, like that dude's never going to die. Shamus: Just and that's what the running joke is. He died years ago, but the drugs are just keep him going. That's one of those guys. I was like the Chuck Norris thing. Like when Keith Richards goes, that's what I'm going to be like. right. Yeah, maybe maybe we are mortal. Maybe I won't live forever. Yeah, because if those do date living forever, then I'm not. Herbie: This is. Some people like, the hell is that? Actually, it's Jack Sparrow's dad for people that are like kind of wondering who the hell he is from the Rolling Stones. Matter of fact, the whole reason why Jack Sparrow acts the way he does. Shamus: Aerosmith kicked ass. like dude, it was ⁓ Herbie: You can't go without saying like when Aerosmith and Run DMC did walk this way, dude. That was just- Shamus: That's because everybody's like, ⁓ Antwerp. Yeah, run DMC and and ours. ⁓ Herbie: They've left Biscuit after we're in the 90s. They- they- they- held it down, you know, like- ⁓ Shamus: Yeah, but I'm just saying that's where it got it started. Yeah, that rock was ⁓ Yeah, I remember the video practice it next to each other and they keep it down there banging up They just break through the wall Herbie: That's a great and you'll like, it's a great concept too. You know what mean? Yeah. Cause you got to have like, everyone's like in their own lane with like music and their likes and stuff. And these two guys are just sitting there like, you know, yo, this shit sounds good. Let's rock out together. That was great. Shamus: ⁓ Well, that's another thing that came out of the 80s was they all got together. Yeah, they did live aid. Yeah. And they started with that Christmas song. Do they know it's Christmas time? I love that video, too. ⁓ yeah. You see people walking in from the cold and like it's like Lionel Richie talking to Phil Collins and then you see like like Prince talking to like fucking Tommy Lee or some shit. Herbie: I think it's. Like the do they know it's Christmas time is more like all the like British and European people and stuff like that We are the world is more like Cindy Lauper Shamus: No, but there was was a couple of them. Yeah, they were like, OK. I mean, I just love seeing like if you ever watch that, there's a documentary on on Netflix. Yeah. The Day the World Sang or something like that where they can only do it. It was right after the Oscars or the American Music Awards or something like that. And Lionel Lionel. And I want to say was it. Who the hell wrote it? Herbie: That's a good question. Shamus: He's a famous dude, like everybody respected him and shit. ⁓ Herbie: One of ⁓ Shamus: And he got Michael to come in so him and Lionel Richie Yeah, look They got together to write the song and they got everybody to agree to do it when they came to Los Angeles for the American Music Awards or something they left the American Music Awards and everybody there went to the studio and They did it all it took them like six ways Jones Quincy Jones Herbie: ⁓ my god, that's gonna drive me Thank God. like I got it before I even looked it up. I that's Quincy, man. That dude was everywhere, man. Shamus: I didn't realize that they had to get them all, because they didn't even know if anybody was gonna show up. They sent invitations out to everybody. ⁓ And they were like, okay, so now the American Music Awards are over. I think Lionel actually hosted it. He was like, when it was done, I got my limo, it over to the studio, me and Quincy were waiting. And we're we're waiting for people to show up. all of sudden, one limo shows up. And he's like, everybody we invited showed up. And they show them all in this room. And you're just like, holy shit, man. That's great. It's like Huey Lewis is standing next to Cindy Lauper, ⁓ who's standing next to Michael Jackson, who's standing next to Wayland Jennings. And you're just kind of man, that is like the conversations in that room had to be ridiculous. they did it all on like eight. Like they were there all night and they just knocked it out. I was like, man, that is crazy. Herbie: The chorus and everything. Yeah, that's what that's a beauty. That's the beauty about music message ⁓ Shamus: Power music. think that's funny they fucking raised on that shit? That was the We Are The World song for, and then they did the Live Aid stuff where they did the two- Herbie: Ethiopia I think too right defeat Ethiopia I know you yeah Shamus: Yeah, was Ethiopia or Africa or something like that. I don't know, man. But it was pretty cool that it happened in Philly. Yeah, we had just moved out of Philadelphia. We moved in the 80s, April of 85. That was July of 85. I remember sitting there watching on TV going, why the fuck are we in there? It seems like everybody else in Philadelphia. Yeah, because like Leonard said, he was like, I think held like one hundred fifteen thousand people that day. Yeah, like, dude, maybe that's why. Herbie: Yeah. except Way too much, man. Back then, man. ⁓ my God. Shamus: ⁓ yeah, well it was butt hot too that day. But ⁓ it was pretty cool watching it. From like England and, know, like, and then when Phil Collins got on the Learjet, he played in England and then he flew over to Philadelphia and I was like, man, this is why. So, yeah, and him and watching him and Clapton do some cream shit together. Herbie: That is cool. Also, it's cool too to be able to see like, you know, some of these international, like you go to other countries, you know, like Metallica or somebody playing in Russia and just the crowd in Russia just going completely ape shit, man. It's awesome. it's like an ocean of people and just like in the States too, but it's just be able to that, that, power of music, like you said, man, it's just amazing. Shamus: So. Every singer, like I've heard Paul Stanley say it from KISS, I've heard Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden say it. Freddie Mercury always said it. He was just like, it's a surreal thing. Like when you go to a different country where they don't speak English, they basically don't have running water or like electricity is scarce and stuff like that. And you get up on stage in front of 115,000 of these people and you just start playing like Fear of the Dark from Iron Maiden. You start playing that opening chord and like the whole crowd. Oh, and they start singing in English. Yeah. Where they're supposed to be like Portuguese or Indian or something. And he's like, dude, I wrote this song on my couch and some shitty whole like when we first started out as a band and like one hundred and fifteen thousand of these people I've never met before in a country I don't even know what they're like. I'm singing it back to me. Where is crazy, bro? That's. That's why I used to love music, man. When I was a kid, I used to play drums and shit. I didn't care if I was playing in front of three drunks at a bar in Riverside or it didn't matter. it didn't matter to me if it was three people or 400. was, mean, I love playing music because like you said, music can instantly take you to a certain place in time. ⁓ It can transport you if you're having a shitty day and a certain song comes the radio. totally like what's that walking on sunshine? ⁓ That song, it doesn't matter what kind of mood I'm in, man. That instantly. cheers me up. That's an 80s song too. Yeah, man. It's like to see them do Live Aid and the Christmas song and and they raised all that money and like the whole world watched that thing That's what music does, man. And it's amazing. the ⁓ 80s was just with it. Herbie: United everybody, Now it's just like, now everyone's just like doing like a speaking Japanese from Japanese anime songs and stuff now or K-pop. Shamus: ⁓ no doubt. No doubt. Well, it seems like if you listen to some of the stuff now, you can definitely hear that 80s influence in it. Like a lot of that shit, like a lot of stuff like the weekend. The weekend does that stuff like that background synthesizer shit. ⁓ There's a couple of songs I'm like, this is twenty twenty five. Herbie: Well, if you think about it sometimes actually people will have like the, you know, the, best theme, like they'll have like theme parties and it'll be like eighties theme party. So everyone knows like, you know, a house party, everyone dressed up like clothes from the eighties. Cause you know, that was just like, yeah, dude, you never like, especially like, you know, the yearbook pictures of the girls were like their hair just like. Shamus: That was it. Herbie: Just all way out there, man. The super same Goku it up with like the can of like, don't know how they were able to have like that huge, huge can of Aqua Net and like a very small purse, man. It was almost like watching clowns, like 20 clowns jump out of a small car. I was like, how the hell do they fit this big as Aqua Net in that small purse? Shamus: Well, that's the difference between my yearbook in 96, my senior year and my brother's in 91 because and ours, like when we're just wearing the the suit, not like the cap and gown. Yeah, you can actually see the background like around the top. ⁓ yeah. But when the girls like in the 90s, you couldn't see anything because they had the big ass bangs and like the hair was all frizzed out. So all you saw was face and hair. Yeah. Herbie: When girls in high school like girls get up like four hours before school, man. ⁓ Shamus: My sister used to do her hair when she came out to you and I'd walk in if there was a fly in that room it was just stuck in midair. Like everything was just like starched and like yeah you go to rinse off with a towel and just like it doesn't bend because like all this shit like to overspray our hair. I used to tell my dad because he would go in there he was like give me a minute boy I gotta go in there use the bathroom I'm like don't light a cigarette. Yeah don't light a candle don't do nothing. Herbie: Yeah Yeah. Frozen in time, man. ⁓ Don't do it, man. That's the thing we used to do, Yeah, not just flash short, that's going to be like a small mushroom cloud, man. Because I remember like back in the day, we actually would grab like the Aquanet. And just turn into a small blowtorch thing was awesome. Shamus: is gonna flash over like. ⁓ yeah, with the lighter. I told her I forgot about that until I seen the, the dirt, the Motley Crue movie. And in the beginning, Tommy Lee's doing that. He's running around like. Herbie: And there's like, do they even make aquanet solar? Shamus: I think they do. ⁓ but I don't think it's because that's when they were just that's when you remember that's another thing at the eighties like Every decade has its own environmental shit. Yeah, and that's when you know, all the hairspray is ripping off hole in the ozone So but I was like no shit because we're all like there was so much of that shit all over the place. It was Herbie: It wasn't using sparingly, man, that was like you were like basically using a spray paint to spray. Shamus: I was gonna say that shit was like fucking aerosol version of rubber cement Herbie: And that was always guaranteed to like if you're in the high school and stuff like that you're welcome by the girls bathroom the door opens just here like Shamus: Yeah. Well, not only that, but like some of like some of these bands, dude, like poison when they first came out, Cards of Roses, Motley Crue, like those dudes were like the dudes were using it. Yeah, like that shit was. Herbie: Yeah, my hair bands, baby. It's all about it. Now you can just post a video of yourself on frickin YouTube or something. Come famous like you didn't really have to go through all this stuff like making your demo tape or going to specific areas or try to like stand out from the other other bands and everything. Now, know, get a mic. Shamus: Holy smokes! Well, I mean, that is kind of cool, though, that it is easier because like back in those days, the record executives were controlling. yeah. Doing shit like that. Like, I kind of think. Robert, me. Trust me. A lot of shit that comes out is bullshit. Yeah. And you don't even know if it's a I anymore. That's a whole different episode we'll cover. yeah, having a voice nowadays where you just put in. I mean, if they were. We wouldn't be able to do this now if we didn't have YouTube and stuff like that. So I mean, I do kind of appreciate that stuff, but it just kind of sucks that now everybody thinks they can rap or sing. But I mean, to each their own. Herbie: I mean there's people out there with skills, you know, when you use auto tune and all that other stuff, it's like, ehhhh. Did you really build all those skills yourself? Did you? Shamus: And then towards the end of the 80s, our boy came back again with a banger. Went from Thriller to Bad. Yeah, that album was. Yeah, I was like, man, this guy is just just when you thought you were just like, OK, it's going to be all right. Bang, you're another goddamn album. Herbie: Mike does it again, man. Moogs even like remember the time and yeah, he would just come out with. Shamus: And everybody was in that goddamn, he was one of those dudes like, I was it after the Simpsons or something like that? Like most of his music videos were so epic that they, cause like Eddie Murphy was in that, remember the time? Magic Johnson, like everybody was in these goddamn videos. Herbie: That was always when Michael Jackson would do that's when you're talking about the MTV's world premiere. Yeah, and be the Michael Jackson video Shamus: But was it that one or was it the black or white video that was actually on fire? It was like premiering after the Simpsons or something like that. I think it was, ⁓ it was black or white. I think it was black on that song. Herbie: and all that stuff. That's where like everyone's faces were changed. Yeah, like technology stuff was out Shamus: then another video came out, I don't think it was off that album, I think it was on Janet's, it was the Scream one, it was when they were both together for the first time since they were kids. That song sucked though. But yeah man, dude, the 80s were just ripping with music man. ⁓ Herbie: And that was when like you had tapes, had CDs, I mean, you you didn't have to, couldn't, you know, download it and stuff like that. You basically, you literally had to go to the mall or whatever and get by the goddamn tapes or the DV. Shamus: He's a cell blank tapes like the Maxwell tapes and all that stuff or if you didn't have one of those you'd take one of your dad's like Hank Williams got him and he put that piece of scotch tape over the square on the side of it and then you put it in and when Casey Kasem came on in the morning you just waited for your song and you're just like bag hit record shit Yeah, the lights dim because we were using a to boombox. ⁓ Yeah, man, we used to like you said all mixed tape. Yeah man Herbie: Hey and bowels. and make mistakes. Shamus: I don't think I've ever, cause you watch these movies where they're like, made, ⁓ my God, you made a mixtape for, I don't think I've ever made a mixtape for a girl or a girlfriend or anything like that. Herbie: I kind of did one, but was just like only a couple songs, but I was ⁓ lucky enough to get a couple of mix tapes from old girlfriends. Because they were always there, and they were good at it too, where they can actually kind of like... Shamus: They can fit all the letters on the goddamn lines on those things. And they put like the little heart over the eyes and shit like that. Herbie: But like, not only that, the music, they get all the commercials out and stuff like that. Meanwhile, guys, it's just like, you know, you know, the music would end in like two seconds later. And now on WR, click, you know, I mean, like we were just our editing skills were. Now, this is good, man, but yeah, like the girls would just edit the crap out of that stuff. Shamus: It sounds like the show. I just remember cause you know, Headbanger's Ball was huge, like towards the end of the 80s. And I was thinking to myself, they never played any of that shit on like Q102 or Eagle 106 back in the day. So I was like, man, so what me and my buddies would do, like you would buy the Ozzy tape, my buddy Bobby would buy Motley Crue, and then we would just buy a bunch of blank tapes, then we would, cause each boombox had two dip, and we would just play and record, and then we would just. Yeah. And that's how we did it, man. Just kept rotating. Yeah. Dubbing tape. Yeah. Yeah, man. More bang for your buck. Oh, yeah. Or you would go to whatever like Sam Goody or whatever it was in the mall. And they had they used to have like the single cassette tapes that just had like the hit song on it for like a dollar ninety nine. Yeah. And we'd buy a bunch of those and then just draw them all one tape. And then like everybody got like you would buy two of them. I'd buy two. He buy two and that guy buy two. And then we'd throw all eight on one tape and like, here you guys go. Yeah. It was perfect, man. It was awesome. Then when they came out with CDs, we're like, what the fuck is this? The CD writers didn't come out until like 99, 2000 when Napster took off. Yeah, but yeah, the cassette tape thing was great. Herbie: We got bogged out on that stuff, And it was devote, it was devotion to man, just the fact of like, ah, cause you would actually listen to one radio station for all day just to hear your, cause it would, you know, they would replay it and stuff like that. But it'd like, you know, four hours later. Shamus: It was like the end of that movie, one crazy summer where the guys get ready to play. He's smoking all them cigarettes all summer waiting for it. Then when he gets up to go to the bathroom, like call it out. a content. He shoots that missile at the right. Great. Herbie: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. ⁓ Yeah, that is a great movie. It's another like low key about that. Shamus: Honeymoon Suite. Great song at the end of that movie. my God. Whatever it's called, what it takes. By Honeymoon Suite, great song. Herbie: Great. And Demi Moore and Bobcat Goldthwait. Well, that's, that's, like, think entertainment and stuff like that was just so huge. It was, only that you had to be able to watch it live. Shamus: Great move. Herbie: because you didn't really have the opportunity to able to watch it again. You know, it's like TV shows or the radio. You'd have to wait, you know, like four hours later if they replayed it and stuff where nowadays you can just, she's just look up like everything on the damn phone and just immediately get it, get into it. And that's, that's how people, think it's stuck down, going down the rabbit hole when they're on their phone and just like see all this stuff like, Oh my God. they forget. Shamus: think Jay bought up, and you guys will hear the Star Wars episode, or you probably heard it before you heard this, ⁓ Jay bought up a really good point, it was appointment TV. You knew, it was like a doctor's appointment. You knew what time it was gonna be on, so you knew where you had to be at a certain time to watch it and stuff. Another thing that the 80s did for us with MTV was, one of the first things they did before like Unplugged and all that stuff or Headbangers Ball was they used to broadcast live from concerts. And that was one of the first times I've ever seen a live concert. Yeah. Yeah. Like the only reason I because I never really gave a shit about too many. Like I was just kind of dead set on certain bands. I didn't really. And like I listen to other stuff because I was in my I couldn't drive. So every time my mom drove somewhere, I listen to stuff. But there were certain bands that I was just like, OK, kiss animized live in Cobalt Hall in Detroit is going to be on eight o'clock on Friday night. Herbie: live in London. ⁓ Shamus: This is where I need to be. And of course, it was summertime. So I knew my dad was going to be out on the front stoop because we still having a couple of beers with the neighbors. My mom didn't drink at all, so she was going to be in the kitchen with like the wives doing tea My brother was going to be at his dad's and my sister doesn't. She's going to be like ⁓ the girls upstairs or something. So I got the TV to myself. This is this shit right here. Yeah, yeah, they're upstairs making mixtapes for the boys in the neighborhood. But ⁓ I remember it was 84. Herbie: making their mixtapes. Shamus: And I was like, this is what a concert is. And like, if you see that crowd, that crowd and that is. ⁓ And you're like, holy moly, man, I can't wait to do this when I get older. ⁓ And I man. Like when I got old enough to start, it was a couple of years later, my uncle started taking me and stuff and I start going by myself and. ⁓ And like said, the crowds back then were. Herbie: It's an ocean of... It's a whole nother experience. Shamus: Hey man, we're all here together. We're here to take care of each other. You know, dah, dah. There was no pushing, shoving, fighting, you know, stuff. Yeah, it was just everybody's here because we love this band, dude. And you know, where did you see him at? Well, I saw him here. Did you hear this about this guy in the band? it was just, and all of sudden the lights went down and everybody's like, okay, dude, I'll see you after the show. And he's mad. was such a great time. Herbie: phones. It's not, you know, like that's the one thing if you notice too, like during the concerts, you don't like back then there was, it wasn't like an ocean of these cell phones, just all these hands up, but just like recording and shit or a couple of those hotches. That's it. Shamus: Yeah Another thing that came out of the 80s was a lot of expose. Like a lot of them were like girl bands Who was he? ⁓ my God, what's the name of that one? Herbie: freestyle music and stuff. Shamus: The go-gos. well, yeah. It came out expose. Then there was right there was some bangles. Yeah. Yeah. I hate it. That's on the walk like you hate. Herbie: ⁓ my god. Shamus: Oh, Salt and Pepper came out. Oh, That Whitney Houston. Yeah. Dropped her first album in 88. Yeah. Which was an amazing album. It was kind of my mom loved it, but it was a little bit so shoddy was another. Herbie: Queen Latifah. ⁓ Shade, I hear Shade, I'm making babies, man. That's just like, that woman is just like... Shamus: That was a whole other thing. had Lionel Richie was dropping bangers. Luther Vandross was. ⁓ then you had another great one hit wonder from a movie was Ray Parker Jr. with Ghostbusters. Yeah, dude. It was just man. Every time you turned around. Yeah. ⁓ my God. That was Maxwell. Yeah. With Michael Jackson sample. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was man. And then you had a who was it? Here's a guy. Herbie: I always feel like... Shamus: Was it Mick Jagger and who was the other guy that did that gay shit? ⁓ my God, what the hell's the name of that song? Herbie: you Shamus: They were all dressed up in like neon shit and they were just dancing. ⁓ dancing in the streets. ⁓ my God. Who was the other guy? Keep talking. Herbie: I remember he did a couple other songs, but I don't remember like the neon type stuff. ⁓ I probably if I saw it now, I'd be like, ⁓ my God. Yeah. I remember that. it was probably like one of the Shamus: Dude, you've never seen that video. It was so I was Bowie and Jagger. ⁓ Herbie: I remember they did a couple of songs together and stuff like that. Shamus: Yeah, don't ever watch that shit. Herbie: He's like, don't watch out when that one's like. Really taking him out of their element, because that's not really like their style, you know, maybe Bowie, but like. Shamus: Because you know what? was so bad, dude. It was so bad. Another thing I always thought, compared to because there were so many, like you said earlier, like Run DMC and Aerosmith, Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson, the girls mine, which also ultimately caused Paul McCartney is the Beatles catalog. Yeah. Because he actually told Michael Jackson during the video shoot, like, hey, kid, you need to invest in video. He was like, what do mean? He was like, buy the rights for bands. And then when the Beatles came up, he bought he bought the Beatles rights. Herbie: Yours. Shamus: I think Paul did get him back after he passed away. I think the family told him that. Herbie: He's like, good idea. Shamus: But yeah, there was so many different, but that one right there, dude, was so bad. And then another thing I never understood was when you watch Bohemian Rhapsody, which is, I was like, when you look at Live Aid, which is one of the greatest, that 10 minute thing is one of the greatest performances of all time, like what Queen did that day. And before the movie even came out, like a lot of people said that, it was unbelievable. But then I thought to myself, how the hell did nobody know this guy was gay? Herbie: kill Shamus: Yeah, you could just tell you like, yeah, at least so flamboyant. Yeah, like I just don't. Wow. Yeah. But I guess nobody really nobody really care. Herbie: right? Give us a shit. Nobody cares if you're gay or not. Just be cool. That's it. No one cares. Shamus: Well, that's what it was like back in that day. Nobody. Everybody minded their own business, nobody give a shit. Yeah. Then it became like, ⁓ and then it was cool to be persecuted for being gay and all that. mean, that's none of my business. It's not my cup of tea. But I just thought to myself, think, man, how did nobody ⁓ pick like finger that? Yeah. Then when I saw the belly thing and I was like, these guys might be little gay, too. I don't know. Maybe they just want to drugs right there. Herbie: Well, I remember getting back in the 80s and stuff like that. Boy George at first I was like, ⁓ you can't miss Boy George, man. But like there's so like you said, there's so many people. like when Culture Club came out, man, at first I was a little kid. I was like, who's this chick? And my my mom was like. Yeah, it's not a chick. Shamus: My god, we forgot all about That guy was so big, he was in the opening of Commando, because he's sitting at the table with Alyssa Milano, it's like boy magazine or something. He was like, I don't get it. If he's a girl, why is it boy George? Daddy is a boy. I don't understand. Herbie: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ Shamus: I forgot all about there was another one them. I'm a drogin us when oh yeah well which gave us some high poor guy away. George is like yep later day. Herbie: George Michael broke a lot of horse cuz all the girls like ⁓ my god. He's gorgeous. I love like sorry, babe Shamus: When Make It Big was a great album, epic album. And then George left and came out with Faith in 98 or 88. Yeah, that was epic, too. Yeah. Unbelievable. Then you had Tiffany, Debbie Gibson. ⁓ yeah. All the mall tours. Yeah. Then them new kids on the block, dude showed up. Herbie: Yeah. ⁓ ⁓ my God, yeah, that was early 90s. Shamus: gonna stick with the new edition shit. Y'all can have those dudes. Herbie: Yeah, cuz even new edition broke up did Belle Biv Devoe did his own thing Ralph tries Ralph trans vant did his own thing. ⁓ Shamus: Bobby Brown's Don't Be Cool album in 88? Oh my God, And he did the second Ghostbusters, that was in 92. That song On Your Own is a great song. Yeah, Ralph Trav. Herbie: ⁓ Awesome. Ralph Trezegh and Johnny Gill. And then Bill Biv Devoe did their thing. They they just did like the rabbi poison. Boy, never tried to make but. Oh, yeah, Like that. Shamus: ⁓ yeah, I live by that Words to live by, and gentlemen. Never trust a big butt. Herbie: That's It's like me and the crew used to do. Shamus: Yeah, there was so much shit going on. Herbie: There is. And that's another good thing about that. It's just like there's so many different cultures and different like styles and everything. They just branched out, did their own thing. But not only did they branch out and do their own thing, they fucking kicked ass at it. Now, you know what mean? And that's and you're still like, if you if you think about it, too, that a lot of movies out now, they're still using like all the 80 songs as a soundtrack for movies and stuff now. Shamus: ⁓ no, do the whole story. Herbie: Guardians of the Galaxy. ⁓ look what they're doing. They were like, they're a great album. Like, yeah, because it's. Shamus: Austin. Like I said, I've never seen an episode, but everybody tells me like the whole stranger things run out. Yeah. That whole thing is not about AIDS. It's 80 soundtrack. Herbie: dragons. Shout out to Tom and Christine. Shamus: Yeah, we miss you guys. Call us back, please. Herbie: Even if you don't want to do the podcast, just come hang out again. Shamus: Yeah, but yeah, like everybody's starting to lean back. And like I said, that movie Dates Confused, where she was just like, you know, the 60s were obviously awesome. The 70s suck. Maybe the 80s will be great. And everybody's like, if you look back, like, I'll take the 80s over to 90s any day of the year or even the 2000s, because like the 80s was just, ⁓ my God, there was so much shit. And there was it was just a variety of stuff. Yeah. Herbie: It's almost, do you feel like you think we're partial to it because we grew up to it, or it's just the fact that yeah, it actually slams. Shamus: Well, we also grew up in the 90s and the 2000s. mean, like officially, like when you're when you're that age in the 80s, like you're like a kid. Yeah. In the 90s, I was a teenager. In the 20s, I was my 20s and stuff like that. Like just music wise. Yeah. Now. Because the ⁓ 80s were just so like I said, it was such a variety of stuff like you couldn't turn around without somebody like, hey, man, Iron Man just dropped power saving as number one on this chart. Herbie: No, one thing for a fact, man. Shamus: But, Luz Arvandros is doing this and that's number one or, know, ⁓ my God, there was so much shit out there. Not to mention the other shit like Bob Marley. ⁓ my God. It was just ridiculous, dude. Crazy. I just didn't under, I didn't know where to spend my money at, man. It was just wild. I'm gonna keep talking to everybody because Herbie had to go take a pee, so. But yeah, man, the shit was great. Like there was something for everybody in the 80s. Herbie: Even like if you really think about it now, like I said before is that the, um, no one's really doing like any later 2000 theme party type stuff bad to her. We're just goes back to the eighties. Shamus: Yeah. Another band we forgot about was Minuto. They were all over the goddamn place too. then they, mean, once you became a certain age, they threw you out because you're old. Yeah. And that spawned Ricky Martin. Yeah. Herbie: ⁓ yeah. Living the V. Don't look at. Yeah, there's like a lot of like new kids on the block and stuff. And then you had, you know, Donnie Wahlberg and then Mark Wahlberg came out for a little bit. That's he did like a couple of. Shamus: Oh yeah, I'm a big fan of Ricky Martin. Marky Mark and the funky bunch. You ever see a movie Rockstar with him in it? Where is the 80s? Yes. And when they're doing the credits, they're doing the post credits and they're doing all the bloopers and like, OK, ready, go the lights and they're all on stage to get ready to act like they're a heavy metal band and like, all right, roll music. And all of a it was like Marky Marks. Get with it now. They're like, I don't like Zach Wilde drops the guitar starts this. But yeah, man, it was something for everybody. It was so awesome. nobody and because of that, when we lived in Philadelphia or like even in Georgia, we were so like every week there was somebody coming to the spectrum. Yeah, there was some big band rolling through and then like in the summertime, like the Stones would come to the vet or Zeppelin or somebody and you were just kind of like, man. Herbie: And not only that, that music would inspire people to create music. You got people that like with rap, they inspire to like start doing DJs, scratching albums and stuff like that. Mixing tapes, all that stuff, man. Shamus: was the foundation for hip hop to where it got to in the 90s. really took off like. I would say like, I mean, like Slick Rick, MC Search, those guys, the Sugarhill Gang ⁓ and the 80s were kind of keeping alive. LL really LL and Run DMC really took it to another level, followed by like the fat boys and stuff. But then when the chronic drop in and 91s, right. And that's it. And that's when it really took. Herbie: Yeah, man, now you got everybody doing that stuff now, Yeah, the west, east and west coast. Hell yeah. And Biggie too, man. Shout out Biggie. Shamus: But like all those guys, know, like listening to the Sugar Hill Gang, listening to Slick Rick, listening to, you know, like LL Cool J, Run DMC, the Fat Boys. ⁓ There's a ton of them I'm missing because I mean, that wasn't like I was a guy I kind of liked to hit like Fat Boy. Like I didn't know who the Fat Boys were until I saw Disorderlyz as a kid. And I was like, holy moly, guys actually sing? Herbie: Let's get ready to drop that with disorderly. Shamus: my neighbors who were black and their kid was about the same age as my brother and he came into the house one time with the Walking with a Panther album by LL Cool J and I'm like, who the hell is this dude? Because he's like all jacked up with the kangoo and he's got the big gold chain, he's got that panther and I was just like, what is this? All of they put it on and it's like, I need my radio and I was like, oh, oh, oh. Herbie: Yep. Yep. ⁓ Shamus: I can get with this. Hell yeah, man. Hell yeah, man. Herbie: That's the best thing about music too, like it brings everybody together. Shamus: was that song you were listening to when you in? from... Yeah. Herbie: Yazoo. At first, because I forget what country they're from, it's like, so at first I thought it was a dude singing it until recently, a few years ago, I looked it up and it's a girl singing it. It's a band called Yazoo. Shamus: Yeah, that was so money. Herbie: There's so many like, the electric bands and stuff like that back in the day, know, not just the Flocka Seagulls, but there were so many bands from the UK that you didn't even realize, know, Duran Duran and all those guys. Shamus: I was gonna say getting back to what you're talking about. I actually have a set list from my breakdance my breakdancing day. Oh, yeah. There was a kid in Philly. Guys like Slick Rick, Dougie Fresh. Oh, Planet Rock with the soul sonic force and Africa bombadas jam on it. Oh, Hashim. I forget what that song is. The funky four plus one. That's the joint fucking great song. Houdini. The Freaks Come Out at Night. Herbie: Dougie Fresh. Come on. Shamus: Gucci time by schoolie day like dude Yeah, it's man. Those are the guys who laid the foundation for dudes like Dre pock ⁓ Biggie and that whole explosion man. It's like I said, it was just ⁓ so ridiculous in the Herbie: that And there's people still listening to the same music now, man. Because even, I forget there was a comedian, like the Filipino guy, he's really funny. But he was talking about how rap music, some people call it mumble rap and all that stuff, whatever. If you like it, cool, good for you. But he says, if you still even mention Biggie, you just even drop just a couple of the chords. Everyone's losing their shit, Because it's Biggie. Shamus: Well, it's like working in schools and not so much where I'm at now, but when I worked up in Hamilton, there's a vast culture of different, you know, ethnic groups there. And they would just be like, yo, you listen to like, I love Post Malone. I do like Post Malone. I like some of the stuff, not as country stuff as much. I do like that. But like some of this hip hop stuff I did like. And there's a bunch of other new groups out that I like. And those kids are like, you know, this guy and I'm like, and I'm that guy. But it's like, all right, let me. I'd write it down, like put it on note, my phone and on the way home, I'll Apple music it and I'll listen to it. I mean, and sometimes some of those kids had something there and I was like, OK, I'll listen to this shit like King Vaughn was really apparently he got shot like two months after I found out about he shot and killed. But King Vaughn's pretty good. ⁓ There's a couple other guys. then like they would give me some garbage, bro. And I'm just like, all right, this has got to work both ways. Get your pens out. Yeah. Ready to die. Big, you know, ⁓ Biggie. ⁓ All eyes on me. Tupac, that kind of shit. And like I would give them like certain rap stuff and they would come back like, yo! Herbie: I'm like, yeah. Shamus: Yeah, and the one kid was like, you know, I was listening shit. My dad walked by and was like, how you know about that? Like, ⁓ this white security guard. And it was the same way at the at the facility I worked at, too, because like some of our detainees or whatever, know, prisoners and shit, they would just like, they'd be watching. And like, I think I told you this before, before we started the podcast, like 99 problems came out with Jay-Z the video. And the one kid was just like when I worked at the boot camp, they were just like. Herbie: Ha ha ha! Shamus: man, who's that corny ass white dude roll with him? Yeah. For all you people at home, all three you who've never seen that video, it's Rick Rubin, who started Def Jam Records. He's the CEO and president. So like, kind of looked over and I was like, are you shit me? And it was like, yo bro, why is he rolling with that corny ass white dude? And I was just like, that corny ass white dude is worth more than Jay. And I don't think he was with Beyonce at the time, but I just when he's worth more than Jay. That car is like everything that Jay owned and his girl, that guy. And he was like, who the hell is it? I said, I said Rick Rubin, man. And they were just like, y'all looked at me like I was Chinese. Yeah. mean, so when the social worker came in the next day, they were like, yo, can we Google Rick Rubin? And they're like, how the hell do you guys and he's a light skinned black dude. He's like, how the hell do y'all don't know about Rick Rubin? And they were just like, where did you hear that? And they were like, that white guy over there. I was like, yeah. Herbie: ⁓ my god, he brought- It's like a Star Wars reference for me. I'd be like, people don't know who Luke Skywalker is, but they know who Rey is. Shamus: Rick Rubin started it all man. Well watch the movie crush groove Yeah, that's all you got to know about Rick Ruby and not only did he start hip-hop and shit, but he's worked with Ozzy Motorhead metallic like he's worked with Lady Gaga like he's a beastie. Oh my god. We forgot about the Holy Spray when that dropped in 86 it was a rat Herbie: Monkey hell yeah come on man And you're like who these three Jewish guys Shamus: And they tell you they were jealous. The one guy is at rock. He's getting ready to drop a solo. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. I saw that the other day and I was like, oh, I wonder what I was saying. But yeah, license. I forgot. can't believe we always forgot. Herbie: Kill it too, Now. Yeah, I was like, nah, can't let Beastie Boys go out, man. Shamus: Yeah. That shit was epic. Yeah. Herbie: ⁓ There were so many white boys I had that goddamn album I'm like but it not only that just the way everybody had it though cuz it was it was good You know same thing with like Eminem dude like everyone's like who the hell's Eminem like bro? Yeah, everybody know who Eminem is and he earned his place too, man Shamus: Yeah, man. Yeah, forgot Beastie Boys are in Crush Groove too. Herbie: Yeah, Matter of fact, was it breaking with ⁓ breaking and breaking to electric boogaloo and ozone and turbo and the girl special K. This is actually my little ninja plug. She was actually the star of Ninja three, the domination. Really? One of my favorite. Yeah. One of my favorite ninja movies. Yeah, it's it's cool, I was like, that's special K. Shamus: Now, let's Damn. I'm a huge fan too, Herbie: Ozone and Turb, remember was Ozone was the dancer Shalimar and he actually did a lot of coordinating for like movies and stuff. Shamus: Oh, she's in the video. Yeah, the the breaking. Oh, there's no stopping us or something like that. Yeah, the song. Yeah. Yeah. Man, it was so man. I just wish music could be like that again. Herbie: And you think about too, like around that time is when graffiti and all that stuff, like the ball arts and all that. absolutely. Branch out until like it just exploded into its own culture. Shamus: Everything in the 80s kind of really, and a lot of people say it's a lot of cocaine in the 80s. Oh yeah. You know, like you said, just the way people express themselves through clothing, through like you said, graffiti and wall art and stuff like that, through music. It was just, it just seemed like society as a whole was just exploding with like, just creativity, like just that ability to. It's different now because technology like people call like this is creating shit like we're I guess they're called creators, whatever. But like back in those days, we didn't have all this kind of stuff. So like we would go and, you know, tag up like a subway or something like that. Or, know, you went to the store and bought like the the shell tops that Run DMC was wearing and you dress like those dudes because that was you know, or you were you were dressed like Madonna or something like that. It was just it was. Herbie: See in his outfits. Shamus: like the fashion, the music, and everything was just so wild in the 80s, it was great. And music was so big and my friend, Ms. Torres, we used to work together, who I love to death, she's a great friend of mine. She used to say all the time, she's a huge 80s person, she's like, we love 80s music so much because we would get in a car and cruise with our friends. Like I was like in that movie, Day's Confused, where they're looking for a place to hang out. go, we used to do that. Like maybe not so much in the 80s, but like when we were in high school and stuff. But like we always listen to 80s music doing it. Herbie: And God forbid if you had a crappy tune cranking in your car when you're trying to pull up on some ladies dude that just made you look like a freaking doofus. like you're not getting any attention if you pull up with a crappy ass- Shamus: Yeah, man. So well the 80s kind of started that too because like you could have a shitty car But if you had a it wasn't the booming systems in the 80s. Yeah, that didn't happen until like the 90s But like in the 80s you had to have like the tape deck But underneath you had to have like the equalizer and shit like all the lights and stuff on it And like you know, we didn't have boom boxes, but we made sure we had like good, you know 6x4s or 6x10s in the back or that Herbie: one household speaker that would sit the... Shamus: ⁓ yeah. And hopefully it was loud enough to drown out the exhaust. ⁓ yeah. The car was the radio. Herbie: Great. Shamus: So I guess we could start wrapping this up, We're an hour and 10 into this. Herbie: I hope you guys all enjoyed this stuff. If you guys are listening to this and you remember like all the, all your fun times like cruising around, listening to all your music in the eighties. Now I hope it brought back, you know, made you to go down a trip of memory lane. I just hope you enjoyed it. Listen to this one. Maybe it brought back some, some old, uh, feelings and stuff. Shamus: Yeah, absolutely. And that's what we're all about, man. It's like I said, I'm I'm sitting here with a grin on my face is talking about because there's so much shit I'm going to listen to this week. know. I mean, and that's another thing. Make sure you guys are hitting us up on our mailbag, dude. Just us up on just I am the on Facebook, like on our poor, your cheese thing. And just hit me up like name a band that we forgot. I mean, God, there were so many of them. We'd never be able to cover it in my life. man, it was just overwhelming. And that's another thing we got to do. Herbie: so much we didn't even cover. next week. Shamus: that I looked at that inbox today, man, and it's it's pretty full. So I got to get that. We're not going to do mailbox now. But there's a couple in there. I was just like, man, we have a mailbox in a while. Yeah. But we'll definitely get to that. So. All right, everybody. You guys have a great night and we'll see you on the next episode. Say goodnight, Herbie. Herbie: Good night and let's crank some tunes while you're at it too, Shamus: ⁓ yeah, I'm going to right now.