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Crazy Shia Umrah Experience · After Maghrib 🌙

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welcome back to the aftermath of podcast.
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Yes, it's Thursday and we're back again.
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If you tuned in last week, you would have noticed that we
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didn't release our usual episode and we aired something that we
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filmed back in Ramadan. I highly recommend you go back
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and listen to that episode if you have not yet listen to that
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now. We have so much to discuss.
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I haven't seen Ahmed for almost 2 weeks now, so Salaam alaikum.
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Alaikum. Salaam how you doing?
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I've what's happening in the hood Better other way?
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They say it was better. No, I was going to say I was
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going to say, but it's maybe I reference it during the podcast.
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I'll mention what I mean. But yeah, better other way.
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House of Gokul. Yeah, I'm good, bro.
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Hamdullah. Hamdullah Shukar.
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How are you? I'm, well, I can't complain.
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Yeah, honey, I'm, I'm back to the UK.
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You know, if, if, if our viewers and our subscribers and
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Charlotte is subscribed by now. They tuned in two weeks ago.
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Yeah, they would have heard that.
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I recently just came back from Umrah.
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I was there for a week. So I'm still trying to settle in
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into normal. Life you told me two days ago
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you're your sleep has not regulated and I was thinking bro
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it's only like 3 hours time difference.
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The thing is, it wasn't the time difference, Ahmed.
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It was, I think the lack of sleep.
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Yeah, that was happening. I think that we spent almost an
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entire day of travelling, by the way, 'cause we, we, we left the
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UK in the afternoon, we got there at night in Ryav, and then
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we waited for many hours. We had to catch another flight
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all the way to Medina and so on and so forth.
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And all of that was hardly any sleep.
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You know, when, when you're travelling with good brothers,
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there's no sleep, Let's be honest, late night discussions.
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But you know what, those discussions, I think I'll never
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forget them, honestly. Especially, especially when you
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have convos with a brother like Zahidi Hamad Zahidi, he was an
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amazing supporter after May I love bless him.
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Honestly, I I I have to take out his phone and hit follow.
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Guys, do you know what? Yeah.
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I'm sorry. We love this guy's like he's,
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he's like family to us. This brother is.
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We love him so much. I love him.
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I love him. I love him.
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OK? I love him, however, he's part
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of our group chats. He's part of our group chats.
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We've added him by force. Yeah, into the internal
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aftermath. The guy has never seen one
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episode in his life I love. He's not.
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I had to force him to subscribe. I think he followed us when we
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were on like 10K followers. Yeah, you know, so.
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And despite the fact that he sees us nearly every two or
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three days, That's crazy. No, may Allah bless him as well
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as I travelled with a good brother, a good friend of mine I
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think from very early. Childhood on the podcast, Say
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Mohammed. Say Mohammed Musa, We and we
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spoke about our buying about two years ago.
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Yeah, one of the first podcasts we did.
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You know, someone asked me how did it feel travelling with your
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friends to Amara, because normally people go on like Zeara
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groups or family and things like this.
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And the first thing that came to my head and I and I think I said
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it to them as well over there. I was like, you know, normally
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with your friends, you discuss, you know, let's go to let's go
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Spain, you know, let's go, I don't know, let's go to some
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beach in Dubai or something. But Ashley said, you know,
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let's, let's go to the House of a lot Azza Wajal.
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So that was that was unique and I think it reminds us we need to
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have friends like this one. 100% bro yeah I need.
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Someone who tells you so. Listen, listen, tell me about
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it. So sorry to interrupt you, but
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like, OK, so you went on. Why?
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Why did you go without a group, without like a spiritual guide,
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without a RSI? Do you know what I mean?
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Without a structure. See, back in the day, I don't
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want to prolong my answer here, but back in the day, you really
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had to go with the group because you had like visa restrictions
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and things like this. But because recently over the
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last, I think year or two, the access to Saudi Arabia has been
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very easy. All you need is a visa and you
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can go. You don't need, you know, to
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book with a travel agent and apply for a Umbra or a Haj visa
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and things like this. Although Haj there are
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restrictions, but for Umbra, it's easy access.
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Anyone can go any time of the year outside of the high season.
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So you know, last week prior, a week prior, sorry to go on
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Umrah. We were together.
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We were actually having Chai Chai Karek and we looked at we
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looked at each other and we were like, I think it was me.
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I'm not going to I'm not going to take credit.
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Well, I was like, guys, I think it needs a trip to Umrah.
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Like honestly, I said it and and I think we all looked at each
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other and I remember I'm not going to mention well, who who
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it was. He was like, I don't know, I
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need to chat to my missus. And I was like, bro, imagine now
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you speak to your missus and she tells you I don't want you to
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go. What?
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You're going to stop. You're going to tell me you're
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going to allow your wife, you're going to allow your wife to say
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no, you're not going to the House of God.
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So we all make the decision, decision then and there.
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Let's walk and then we'll deal with the.
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Consequences. I think you're going to get in
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trouble for that. I'm not.
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Going to lie to you, maybe it was me, I said.
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I'm not going to miss. You.
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But listen, I'm going to ask you a couple quick questions.
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It was a calling genuinely to answer it.
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Of course it was a. Calling, you know, these things
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are divine intervention. I'm saying Allah's invited you
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to, to, to the Kaaba like that's not a joke, you know, and you're
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going to, to the, the grave shrine of Allah Muhammad
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Salallahu Salam and gentle Baki. And you know, the, the, the
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mosques in Mecca and Medina are like, there's, there's nothing
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more pure. And I've been when I was young
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and I loved it and I vividly remember I have like maybe 10 or
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15 very vivid memories from there when I was younger.
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And it's beautiful. Absolutely.
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And you know what's crazy? Sorry.
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I'll just one thing that I you know what I'm grateful for my
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grandmother, may Allah bless her, protect her when I was
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young, she took me for Amla and I have a lot of memories suffer
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Madawa and like just many things.
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One thing I vividly remember was the first time we saw the Kaaba.
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A lot. And I was, I was really
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struggling with my Kanan restitution when I was young,
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really compared to my siblings. I don't know what it is ADHD,
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something like I, I, I just couldn't, OK.
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My siblings were way better than me and we all used to practice
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the same amount daily basis with our grandmother who's a who was
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a Quran teacher. And it just wasn't clicking.
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And I remember her telling me, look at the cut about maker da,
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that your Quran is good, but you enjoy it.
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And I came home and bro, I promise you, it was like I had
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aged 3 or 4 years in my development of Quran and I came
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back and I was fluent in my unrest station.
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And she always, till this day, she always talks about it.
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But anyway, going back to the story or the questions rather,
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what are I'm going to ask? Like two or three of the things.
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Yeah. What was your highlight?
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What was like the moment or like a memory or like an experience
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or like a feeling in your heart that you're like, yeah, that was
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a highlight for me. The entire experience I think
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was something that I won't forget.
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I know it sounds possibly cheesy.
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I enjoyed every moment because at every stage I felt like I'm
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Muslim. Yeah.
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And if someone told me the other day, how did it feel to go
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Umrah? And, for example, compared to
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Ziara, to Karbala Meshadi, my brother, I was like, look, I'm
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going to be real. And I'll say as it is, when I go
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to Ziara, I'm Shiite. I feel Shiite but when I went to
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Umbra. The Global.
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Omra I felt like I was a Shia, a Muslim like I, I, I felt like I
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was able to connect not just to our, you know, our in the Orasul
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Allah, but to God himself directly.
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Because when I saw the Kaaba, when I you know, you know, after
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doing the the Mikad entering the state of Haram, leaving Masjid,
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the Shahjari heading towards Mecca, eventually finally
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getting entering the mosque, entering the doors, going by the
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stages, going past the pillars, going down towards there's the
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cabinet in front of you. Allah.
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I think the first thing that came to my to my mind, I was
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like, you're the king, you're my master and I'm your slave.
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That's what I felt. I felt like, you know, this is
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where we have been praying towards all our life.
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This is, you know, the sacred House of Allah, Subhan Allah.
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So that feeling, I was, I, I didn't just feel like, OK, yes,
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I'm Shia or something. No, I felt that I believed in La
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Ilaha Allah, Muhammad Rasool Allah, and of course, Ali, Ali
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Allah. That was my yeah.
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It's like it completed my experiences of all the Ziaras
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I've been to. This was like the cherry on top,
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if that makes sense. But at the same time, also when
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I was in Medina and Messi, the Naboi roll, that place is
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something else. Why is there something else?
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Firstly, yes, it's Rasulullah Muhammad sallallahu alaihi, but
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we have a connection there, Shia.
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We connect with the places and something I would say as a sad
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reality, I think in the Muslim world, an observation I made
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while I was there in Masjid and Naboi and the surrounding areas.
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Be a genital, but be, be a, you know, the Rover, be it the, the,
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the actual Bari Al Rasulallah himself and certain other
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special moments with places with significance is that I felt like
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many people that went to the Masjid, it was like a museum
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experience for them. And I felt sad that they don't
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know the significance of this place.
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Yes, they know Rasulallah is buried here, but that's it for
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them. This is what I saw, this is what
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I felt, and it was upsetting at the Om of Rasul Allah.
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He didn't really connect with Rasul Allah the way.
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Of course he deserves to be connected to.
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Yeah, man, I don't know if you get what I'm.
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Trying to say it must be really infuriating.
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Yes, it must. Be really infuriating.
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No, on a personal level I was satisfied.
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My heart was content and I also had handle up and I remembered
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all of you. Guys, every year.
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I I remembered, I think I didn't say every subscriber, but I said
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everyone who benefits from aftermath.
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Of course. Yeah.
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So for those who don't benefit because many people watches on
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that they're haters, right? Some people are not awesome on
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that. I don't pray for them.
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I prayed for those who have love for a lost one.
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Whatever. I said no.
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I said don't, no, awesome, don't know.
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They misunderstand. Anyone who and also be someone
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who is their inmates. How can you love God?
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You can't love God. You can't.
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Impossible. In Charlotte you get to go every
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year bro in Charlotte. One day together.
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And I think if I can say one last thing about my own
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experience is that I really wish I went with my family because it
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was it was something was like I wish my wife was there.
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I wish my children were with me. You know, I wish my family were
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with me siblings and all of this this I felt like it needs
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another experience with them. Of course.
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Yeah. And inshallah I don't know a
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lot. And a lot makes you know, like
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it would be an enjoyable experience.
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Every, you know, like every ziyada has its own experience
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and you create memories and going with family would be
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really special. It would be grateful like your
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marriage and your children and their upbringing and shaping
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them with memories. Like I said with me when I when
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you went when you were a kid as well, like these kind of things
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shape your memory growing up and it solidifies your identity as a
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Muslim and as part of the globe warmer.
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Like when I, when I was a child with the family, I remember, I
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like, I remember more the aeroplane and the hotel than I
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do, yeah, than I do Mecca and Medina, Right.
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So I think because at a young age I didn't know the
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significance possibly on the place, so I didn't connect well
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with knowing my surroundings and environment.
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And I will say one last thing then Inshallah will move the
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conversation and that's. Hamdullah, Yeah.
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Ham Kumallah, God bless you. Thank you.
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I would say, Ahmed, is that I don't want to make it a shitty
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moment, but when I went to genital Bacaya and perhaps maybe
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this can lead us into a conversation like when I went to
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genital Bacaya, it was firstly a in a feeling that, you know, we
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have the Emma who are oppressed while lomine and who are who
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their graves are abandoned and lonely, right?
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But something that really upset me was that the area of our
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Masomine who are buried there, the area was closed off.
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So we couldn't really, how can I say, connect the way like we do
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when we go ZR and Karbala, like we're blessed when we go to
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Najaf and visit him. Ali, Ali, we go to, we go to
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they've, they've. Done it in such a way now where
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it's even less of his. I was going to come to this.
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So now there's actually like bricks that's being built around
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it. And it's like, I feel like
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compared to previous years that I've seen from videos and
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images, it's like they've raised the ground a little.
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So it's no longer an eyesight. That's crazy.
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So only if you know, you know from far that this is your
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imams, these are the Helen Bait and Charla Blasco last one that
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there will come a day where we see.
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A Dome reconstruction. And the minaret over their
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graves. Shahar Hosseini, Kari Zohar, who
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came on the podcast, one of the things he did was he actually
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developed. He's an architect.
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Yeah, by his like profession, he developed a model and I think he
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co-authored a book, if I'm not mistaken with Sheikh Muhammad
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Heli on gentle bucket and he talked a lot about the like he
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actually designed, he submitted his design to the office of the
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different mirage if I'm not mistaken.
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I may be wrong on what his submission would be for the
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reconstruction of bucket. Like imagine that.
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Like I thought he went into. I remember seeing the drawings,
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the Bowers like one day, nuts Marshall one day.
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All right, let's let's crown a crack on the conversation.
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A lot's happening. So for those who were not, like
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I said, said a couple of weeks ago, we had a podcast on Donald
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Trump and the election with said I'm Mark Azmi, who's a great
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friend of ours and 10 out of 10 podcasts really, really good.
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Likewise, last week we had a discussion with Sheikh Sadiq
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Megji and that was a discussion from Shahala Malvan.
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And that topic was why do I or do I blindly follow the religion
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of my parents? Because of course we've seen the
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100 Quran. Allah talks about the people who
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follow the religion of their parents.
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And we want to know how we do we fall into that category?
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And if so, how can we get out of that category and and be people
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who don't do that? So we talked about that.
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I was a wicked amazing podcast. And this week of course, is or
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in the week gone by, the 2nd narration of the commemoration
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of Fatimiya. And for those who don't know
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what Fatimiya is in, in, in a literal sense, Fatimiya is the
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commemoration of the death anniversary of say the Fatima to
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Zahra Salaam Alayhi Alayhi, the daughter of the Holy Prophet of
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Islam, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and his family.
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And it's really, I think say, and I'm sure you'll agree, it's,
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it's a time of the year which is so monumental for us in many
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ways. If I'm going to be real about my
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understanding or my experience with FAFA me on a personal
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level, it's less, less. It's, it's not given the
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attention it deserves or the recognition it deserves.
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And that could be for different reasons.
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The first could be that there are obviously 3 narrations which
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split different people's commemorations accordingly
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according to the calendar. Not that that's an excuse, but
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yeah #2 is there? Of course those who don't accept
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the narrations of what actually took place in Fatima, which I
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know a portion of the community does and some don't.
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And again, that comes down to differences in research and each
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to their own. And the third, in my opinion, is
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that we are very unified, as we should be on the day of Ashura,
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but less so on the days and the nights of Fatha Media.
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And that's something which I think we need to talk about.
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So I'm going to start this conversation here by mentioning
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something to you which I read and I think I posted on the
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podcast page a few days ago. OK.
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And this was written by Ayatollah Gulpe Ghani, Saathi
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Gulpe Ghani. And he wrote this is this is
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crazy. Fatimiya is an era.
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Fatimiya means to oppose the leaders of oppression.
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Fatimiya means to wage war in order for truth to be victorious
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over falsehood. And ultimately, Fatimiya means
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the global and divinely appointed governors of Imam and
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Mahdi, may Allah his and his noble advent.
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Yes indeed, Fatimiya is Ashura, Fatimiya is the knight of Qadar,
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Fatimiya is Ghadir, Fatimiya is the 15th of Shahaban.
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And Fatimiya is in its true essence, the day of victory of
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light over dark. And in a day like now, in a time
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like now, where we have darkness proceeding over light in many
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ways, where we have oppression and we have tyranny, which is at
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the forefront of our minds and on display on our screens.
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And we have ignorance kind of just plaguing over the world
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around us. There's no other time for, no
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better time really, for Fatima to come out.
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You know, like when we talk about the rights of say, the
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Fatima and how her rights were usurped in many ways it reminds
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us of all of the Omaha name of Salaam and how they equally say
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it as well. So Imam and Mehdi, if I'm not
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mistaken, in the book of docket art in Baharal Alwar, if I'm not
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mistaken, references Jafr al Kebab, who of course claimed
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that Omar, he claimed the Imam rather, and he likens him to
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those who, who, who, who deny the Imama of Seyda Fatima.
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And he mentions my grandmother Seyda Fatima and her Imama.
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And in the same way she talks about how her Imama as well on
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multiple occasions, she talks about Imam Matana, you know,
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when she talks about our rights as the Imams and that this is
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Surat al Mustafim. And it just goes to show that
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the like, I think it's really important to for us to
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understand that we can't understand Fatima unless we
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understand who Seyda Fatima was, Who is Bibi Zara?
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Like, what is her maqam? You know what?
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What? Who is this great lady that the
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imams themselves? Imam Hussein says himself that
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they, the imams before me were great.
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And he says my mother and my father and my older brother were
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greater than I am. We're talking about Imam
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Hussein. Do you know what I mean?
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So, like, maybe it's a good point to some because do Muslims
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love be without them? Yeah, of course Muslims do.
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But do they really love her? They really love her.
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Do we know what happened? Forget what happened, but who
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she was. I don't think you'll find any
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Muslim that will claim they don't have love for say the
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Fatima Ali as Salaam. It's I think it's impossible,
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but I don't think all Muslims understand what true love is for
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Ali Muhammad, right? Sallallahu Ali, Ali Wasallam and
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I think something unique to us as Shia.
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Look, I'm probably going to say as Shia many times during this
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conversation because I say as it is, I think we have.
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Understood the status of Ahlil Beit Ali Huma Salaam according
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to the teachings of Rasul Allah Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
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alaihi wasallam. Because when he says things like
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Fatima is a part of me, whoever hurts her hurts me.
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Whoever angers Fatima, angers me, angers Allah azawajal.
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These are not small things because I say why they're not
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small things. Firstly, he didn't say that
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about any other lady. Did he say that by any other
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lady, Ahmed in history? I don't know.
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I haven't come across. If you come across, I want to
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know honestly. So on one level we see there's a
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special, special conversations that are unique just for say the
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Fatima why Rasul Allah Muhammad, her father sallallahu alaihi
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wasallam. And you know, there's even, you
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know, Subhanallah, the other day I was listening to, to, to a
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lecture, an Arabic lecture by Sheikh Hasnaoui.
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And he was given a point where he was like no one truly
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understood Fatima Alayhi Salaam. They only understood her by how
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Rasul Allah treated her and spoke of her that it was to such
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a level that people will be mesmerized.
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Like why does Rasul Allah treat his daughter like this?
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Why does he speak speak of her like this to the extent that one
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of the wives of Rasul Allah, Aisha, she went to Rasulallah
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one day, she told him, You know, O Messenger of Allah, I I see
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the way you treat Fatima. I see the way you speak with
21:37
her. I see the way you welcome her,
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the way you kiss her hand, the way that you would ask
21:44
permission to enter her home, the way that when she comes into
21:48
your presence, you would stand up and offer her your seats.
21:51
But there is one thing I haven't understood Rasulallah, why do
21:56
you kiss the neck of Fatima? He tells her, if I yearn, Jenna,
22:04
I kiss the neck of Fatima like, well, when you hear these things
22:09
and then when you hear what happened to her the way, you
22:12
know, you mentioned a bit early on, like, we live in a world
22:14
where there's darkness and we were trying to look for that
22:18
light. I think we can all relate to
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her. Yeah.
22:21
And if we talk about this darkness, what do we see today?
22:24
Oppression, rights being taken away, homes being demolished.
22:29
All this happened to say the Padma Alayhi Salaam Yani father
22:32
me here on a personal level, for me, for me, it's it's yes,
22:38
there's an emotional attachment. There's that connection that we
22:41
feel upset and we mourn for the tragedy that befell her.
22:44
But there is something that allows us to understand what's
22:48
right, what's wrong, What does Allah want from us?
22:51
What does also allow one from us?
22:52
What's that? What of Saratha musaqim as you
22:54
referenced early on, right. And this happened, but it's very
22:57
important. Yeah.
22:59
I mean, when we look at the EHL bait, and this is the sad
23:01
reality is that whoever, let's say, oppressed them or whoever
23:09
angered them or whoever sadly killed them, all of them.
23:13
The EHL bait, Alim Salaam, was done by those who claimed they
23:17
were Muslim. And it it, it paints a picture
23:22
of the sad reality of how the Islamic kumba is right that
23:27
people who believe in the kelema or claim to believe in the
23:30
kelema and represent the kelema and claim to be the ones
23:33
representing Allah on this earth will do such atrocities,
23:37
atrocities on the very family of Rasul Allah.
23:41
So when I say hacken bottle light and darkness, right and
23:45
wrong, everything can be found at Fatamir.
23:47
I don't want to speak too much. And the reason why I don't want
23:50
to speak too much because I think there's a time and place
23:52
for every convolve, Ahmed And I'm aware and and I know we have
23:57
an audience star, not just Shia Muslim who listen to us, of
24:00
course. And I and I and I think it's
24:02
important to I won't say restrain myself, but I would say
24:05
be careful and mindful of how I speak.
24:08
Right. Yeah.
24:09
So I don't want to say everything.
24:11
We have other conversations where we speak about, for
24:12
example, you can go TuneIn to other episodes where we speak
24:15
about as Fatima sectarian, you know, things like this.
24:19
But that's not the convo I want to have today.
24:21
I don't know who Fatima the. Sahara look for this BB Fatima
24:28
Salamahi alayhah Fatimata Zahra is the litmus test between right
24:35
and wrong and huck and bark is truth and falsehood.
24:39
She is the the decider between what is right and what is wrong.
24:45
OK, when Rasulullah says umuah Abiha, she's the mother of her
24:50
father. A lot of the time we downplay it
24:53
and we say, yeah, she tended to his wounds, she dressed his
24:56
wounds after battle. It's much more than that because
24:59
he's trying to say something much deeper.
25:01
He's saying that she is the pillar of their family.
25:04
Allah says in the Holy Quran Sutil bayina Dalekadenal,
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Dalekadenal Ayyama and that ayyama which he mentions in the
25:14
Holy Quran is a feminine, a feminine term with the Tamar
25:20
bhuta at the end of the word, which implies that it's an
25:23
entity of a feminine nature, IE it's a noun.
25:26
A person who's a feminine of a female in Islam, who's the
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highest ranking female, say the Fatima Zahra.
25:32
And when we talk about that ke muma, what is ke muma?
25:36
It is the oversight, the overseer maybe.
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Fatima is the overseer of the Halo Beta name of Salaam.
25:42
She is the Imam of the Imams. Imam Barker said that the Aya
25:45
itself is specifically referring to say the Fatima.
25:48
Beyond that, look at Haditha Kisa.
25:50
When Allah says he doesn't say this is in Ahlu Kisa, you know
25:58
it doesn't say it's it's Allah and his daughter and his welly
26:04
and his grandchildren. He says it's Fatima and her
26:07
father and her husband and her children.
26:09
And for that reason we know that Bibi Fatima is the difference
26:12
between right and wrong. If anyone ever asks you what do
26:15
you believe in as a Shia, all you have to say is we follow
26:19
the, the words of say the Fatima.
26:21
We follow the opinion of say the Fatima.
26:23
We look to her. You don't trust our scholars or
26:26
the ones oh, that's fine. We look to her.
26:29
We follow the, the, the lineage of Asul Allah.
26:32
We follow the blood of Asul Allah.
26:34
We follow the daughter of Khadija and Muhammad.
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And this in itself is enough of a proof of or of an evidence or
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is enough of a backing for us to say that our, our belief system
26:46
is valid and legitimate in its cause.
26:48
When say the Fatima comes out and she talks about the rights
26:50
and she talks about the, the, the, the, the Makam as the Ahlu
26:55
Beta Salam. That is something which we look
26:58
to as guidance because in many ways BB Fatima was more than the
27:02
oppressed mother or the oppressed daughter.
27:05
Say the Fatima was an academic, she was a speaker, she was a,
27:09
she was a teacher. She was someone who mobilized
27:12
the population around her. She would support a Miramat
27:15
Manin and she would advise the Miramat Manin as well.
27:18
She would remind her children of of their responsibilities and
27:21
their duties and how to act when in accordance to the Sunnah when
27:25
they grow up. Like, there's many things which
27:27
we take for granted here. There is so much and, and This
27:30
is why I said a bit earlier on, I don't want to focus too much
27:32
on focus on her life. And I mean, there's so much life
27:35
lessons you can learn from her. That was, you know, there's,
27:37
there's, there's even trying to understand gender roles at home.
27:40
For example, one day Lady Palmazar Ali Salaam, she'll go
27:42
to our father and she'll go with Emir al mam Ali Ali Salaam and
27:46
she'll tell him, you know what? Raswell, Allah, you know,
27:48
Avatar, you're just let us know. Like, what should we do?
27:52
Like, you know, what should we do at home?
27:54
What should we do outside? Like, what's the advice you'd
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give to us? You know, they were newly
27:57
newlywed, right? And he tells you know what,
27:59
Fatima? Whoever is inside this door in
28:02
the home, you look after it. It's on you.
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It's on you. Yeah.
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Andy, do the best you can. Right.
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And he looks at him and he says anything outside of this door,
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it's your responsibility. Yeah.
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Andy, it's it's there's more than.
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Just say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's proper guidance. There is so much we can learn
28:20
from their life. And and not just not just solely
28:24
how she lived or how she died, but rather, you know, how she
28:28
became Fatima. Like Fatima Salam allahi alayhi.
28:31
Look, she has so many names, right?
28:33
That's the altar and Mohad Dafa. But Fatima, Where did Fatima
28:39
come from? Where did that name come from?
28:41
Many asked like who came up with this name?
28:43
Like what? What is Fatima, right.
28:45
And we say it with on the sip of our tongue.
28:47
But Fatima is a great name. It's a special name.
28:50
Why? That was a name given by whom?
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Allah Azza wajal, right? So there is a narration.
28:57
It's there is a narration. Imam al Bhaktar Alihass Salaam,
29:03
as well as Imam al Jawat, as well as Imam Assad of Alayhi
29:07
Salaam. So I know these three for a
29:09
fact. I've mentioned this, that the
29:12
name was made in heaven. It was sent to the Angel, to
29:16
Muhammad to name her Fatima. OK, so that's one.
29:21
And then they were asked, you know, what does Fatima mean?
29:26
Right? And here's Imam al Barker.
29:30
He responds and he says the name Fatima means is Fatima and her
29:36
Shia are protected from the Hellfire.
29:39
Yeah. And there's other narrations and
29:41
different variations, but they all, they all come back to the
29:44
same thing. And another thing that relates
29:47
to her name is that when she died, now I'm going back to a
29:54
martyrdom. When she died, she wrote a will,
29:57
right? And she wrote a will to Emir and
29:59
not Manin where she started off by saying a shadow Allah Allah
30:05
and Allahu ahdullah Sharikalah washed and Muhammad and
30:08
Abdulhuwarasulu. You know I testify that there is
30:11
no no God but Allah and that Muhammad sallallahu alaihi was
30:16
saying that Mrs. Servant and Messenger washed and al Jenna to
30:21
Haq 1 Anara Haq 1 Nassar to Haq. So I bear witness that Paradise
30:29
is true, Hellfire is true, the hour of Judgement Day is true,
30:36
you know, the day when we're raised from our graves is true.
30:39
And she goes on and on and on. Then she mentions something
30:42
right? And she says I am Fatimah, the
30:48
daughter of Muhammad sallallahu alaihi Hawaii wasallam.
30:51
And she tells Imam Ali what? Then she goes, I am Fatimah.
30:55
There's a there's an emphasis to this, the daughter of Muhammad
30:58
sallallahu Alai Hawaii Wasallam. There's no one worthy in this
31:03
world as a match for me other than you to Imam Ali and not
31:08
just in this life, but the Archer.
31:11
So she goes on and on and on. Let me let me talk about the
31:14
world a bit more actually. And she even goes on to say, for
31:17
example, how to bury her. So she's telling, you know, do
31:23
do the you do the Rosen, she tells Emir Al Malminian.
31:26
But there was something which I think is very important and
31:30
yeah, maybe men, but I think more for the sisters where she
31:33
references hijab in her will Ahmed.
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And she says when I die, I want to be in hijab.
31:41
What does that mean? That is when you die, you're
31:45
you're Kevin. Like what is hijab?
31:47
She would say in her will and she will direct a smart, which
31:52
is, believe it or not, the wife of Abu Baker Siddiq, first
31:57
caliph. She tells a smart you look after
32:01
microphone. Make sure that my shape is not
32:07
visible in microphone. Like to that extent, like she'd
32:11
worry about her hijab after her death.
32:15
What does that say about father? There's more, there's more.
32:18
There's so much Allah. There is so much from her life
32:20
we can learn. Like first we spoke about what
32:23
what's our gender roles, you know, naming your children, I
32:28
think something we can learn as well.
32:30
And what does Hassan mean? What does Hussein mean?
32:32
What all these names people left people now naming their
32:35
children, what letters and numbers and symbols?
32:38
And we have Muslim trends naming their people.
32:41
So no, when we say who is Fatima, bro?
32:43
Fatima is. Is Fatima, Yeah yeah, yeah bro
32:48
who is Fatima? What is Fatima?
32:49
That's the question. And I Hadid we see a lot of the
32:55
time the, the, the the reference escapes me in Behar al Allah,
33:02
I'm not mistaken, but it says in, in in the Behar that there
33:08
was a time where Allah was alone, you know, and Allah was
33:12
in his essence. And obviously we don't want to,
33:14
we don't want to emphasize on the time element because there's
33:17
beyond space and time. And then Allah created the light
33:20
of Muhammad Ali and Fatima and then he remained with them for
33:24
1000 lifetimes. And obviously, you know, in the
33:27
Arabic language, the what's the greatest number is elf.
33:29
You don't have, you know, million and all these things
33:32
that came later, you know, through English.
33:35
But it specifies it said that a last panel were to Anna remained
33:40
with them for 1000 lifetimes. These three essences, these
33:44
three personalities, and he gave them the the.
33:50
Do you mean the authority? Yeah, the authority, yeah, he
33:53
gave them the authority over what is right and wrong and
33:56
halal and Haram and all of these things.
33:58
Obviously, when we talk about halal and Haram, we're not
34:01
talking about the tertiary element like the filk element,
34:04
you know, drinking and this and that, rather what is right and
34:07
wrong in terms of creation. OK, specifically speaking, when
34:11
we talk about the K muma and the oversight, which of course you
34:14
should guys go back and watch the drama tonight's episode on
34:17
this. But there is a really specific
34:20
point here that she has oversight over creation through
34:24
the permission of our last panel to Allah in the guidelines of
34:26
our last panel to Allah. This is so important because
34:30
Torrid is fully in its full form here.
34:32
Like there's no question of, of, of, of Torrid being compromised
34:36
or whatever. This is so important for us
34:38
because Wilaya taqwiniya is such a core belief system in the
34:44
majority of, of Shia thought. And that for those who subscribe
34:49
to that thought process and that ideology believe that's a the
34:52
Fatima and in middle Mott Manin and of course for Sallam
34:55
Muhammad, each had some authority over certain
35:00
responsibilities that Allah permitted them.
35:02
This is who farther ways we're talking about the one who the
35:06
Imams themselves would look to and say that's my Imam, the Imam
35:09
of the Imams like this is a serious Makam, serious Mitaba
35:12
that she had. And then, of course, in today's
35:15
day and age, when we see, like you said, rightly so, when we
35:19
see the well-being like rampaged and pillaged, we see mothers who
35:22
are suffering and mothers who are losing their unborn
35:24
children. And we're seeing mothers who are
35:27
witnessing abuse to their husbands and their front of
35:29
their eyes and abuse to their fathers and so on and so forth.
35:33
This is where we look to say the Fatima Zahra, you know, if we
35:36
are, if we are men, we are husbands or fathers or sons.
35:39
And we see our wives, mothers, sisters being harassed or
35:42
abused, our daughters being harassed or abused.
35:45
Remember the patience of Bhu Fatima.
35:47
Remember how she stood tall, She stood tall.
35:50
She stood as an example to everyone around her.
35:53
She silenced those, those atrocious and filthy men, you
35:57
know. And there she made them lower
36:00
their gaze. And ultimately, you know, this
36:03
is something which we're really missing in the world when we
36:05
talk about Muslim women in leadership, the ultimate
36:09
example, forget Muslim women, Muslims in leadership, say the
36:13
Fatima is the example for all Muslims, men or women.
36:16
And I hate the narrative that a lot of people have that when we
36:19
talk about women and women's times and women's stuff, we talk
36:23
about, say, the Fatima's life. When we talk about men, we talk
36:25
about men. We talk about the Holy Prophet,
36:28
forget all of that. That's nonsense and rubbish
36:30
because we don't subscribe to the men following this
36:33
personality and women follow say the Zainab, say Fatima and say
36:36
the Maria and then say the Khalija.
36:37
We forget all of that. We don't believe in any of that,
36:39
that that all makes no sense. OK.
36:42
Because the lessons to be learnt here are unanimous and you know
36:45
that they they are homogeneous. Their beliefs and the, the
36:49
values of the other debate never had any contradiction to one
36:52
another. I'm waffling a lot, but my point
36:54
ultimately is that there's so much to learn here in terms of
36:56
understanding who she is in her core, in her essence, not just
37:00
in her 18 years, give or take of life, but outside of that, who
37:04
she was before her birth and who she remains after her birth.
37:08
Do you see what I mean? Because what there's without the
37:11
1st, we talk about all of these atrocities and violations that
37:16
took place in early Islamic history.
37:18
Fatima has got to be up there, man, and it's got to be
37:20
something which we never forget. Yeah, no, and we will never
37:24
forget. We will never forget.
37:26
If we forget, I, I, I don't think there's, there's anything
37:30
left in Islam because as you, as we alluded to earlier in the
37:33
conversation, it's like Hacken Barton, right and wrong, you
37:37
know, So there is, I think it gives us a form of barometer to
37:42
understand. You know 100.
37:43
Percent where we, where we should be heading, You know,
37:45
where's our compass pointing? Where's that?
37:47
No point, right? Someone believes something and
37:49
Bibi Fatima disagrees with them Council's argument.
37:54
Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
37:55
If someone is saying I don't agree with XY and Z, you know,
37:59
but this is an opinion held by the daughter of Rasul Allah.
38:02
Well, you've got you've got no right to speak anymore.
38:04
See, look, early on I said I don't want to get into this, but
38:06
now you're making me get into. This.
38:07
No, no, that's not. But let me get into it a bit.
38:10
Go on. Right.
38:11
Yeah, I need if if all with what you've said, all we with what we
38:16
know from Rasul Allah sallallahu alaihi when he wasallam that you
38:20
know, what hurts, that hurts him, what angers are angers God,
38:24
all of this. When we speak about hack and
38:28
battle and when we speak about right and wrong and when we
38:31
speak about oppression on volume and when we look at the life of
38:37
Fatima towards the end of her life, rather things become
38:43
apparent and clear. And I think it's important.
38:47
And I would say this, right, Many people, I think find it
38:51
hard to accept that's the founders of sabafa would do such
38:58
a thing, right? Well, I think if you have an
39:01
open mind and you tell Allah as they were just panel at Allah,
39:06
you know, you point me to the truth, you know, let me know
39:09
what happened or let me know which path to take, right,
39:13
which, which school to follow, right?
39:16
Things like this, right? When it comes to how are they
39:19
there, our beliefs, how we see history, what you know, what
39:24
references we should go towards, God will open up your heart.
39:28
Because I know there's many people out there who say they
39:30
love Fatima, but they don't know what happened to her.
39:33
Look into it many. My my point is bro, take it easy
39:37
breathing you know the. Just chillax.
39:40
Forget the polemic. Just relax.
39:42
Just read, research. Forget your mind.
39:44
Forget. This is what the shit I say.
39:45
Let me let me see what history says right and things like this
39:48
and if I think if we're smart. Enough and don't take sides.
39:51
Don't try and find. Don't take sides.
39:53
This is my point, but you ultimately you will come to a
39:55
conclusion where you see OK, something happened.
39:59
OK, there was even if you don't want to say something happened
40:02
to they default money salon, you cannot.
40:07
Disregard the facts that there was an attempt for example, to
40:12
attack the House of Fatima or there wasn't an intention of
40:16
aggression towards Lady Fatima, towards burning door of Fatima,
40:20
things like this. This is all there and there's no
40:23
forgetting. She died angry with certain men
40:27
and these men need looking into. And if I I don't know how, how
40:33
how clear I can be right? But no, no, you mean, I know you
40:36
mean. And for those who know, they
40:37
know. And those who don't know, they
40:38
can research and learn because the answers are there.
40:41
So I. The answers are there, but The
40:43
thing is the answer can be there, Ahmed.
40:45
And but because you don't want to believe it, you say now how
40:48
can these men do that? You know the argument of I don't
40:52
believe it. Why?
40:53
How much times have you had this OK, or this this new one, right?
40:59
This is a new one now. It's a new trend I've come
41:01
across. Why do certain people say it's
41:04
impossible this thing happened? Not the Shia, of course they say
41:07
what Fatima Zahra didn't say this happened to her.
41:12
So if we open up history, do we see Lady Fatima say for example,
41:15
they burnt my door, for example, or they broke my ribs?
41:18
Do we do we see references like that?
41:20
But if we look at the AL Beit in general.
41:23
So just to this argument, let's go to Karbala, right?
41:29
Do we see, for example, Imam and Hussain telling the enemy or his
41:34
family or look what they done to my family or look what they done
41:37
to Ali Azhar? No, they ask, you know Lady
41:43
Zainab, look what happened to you?
41:44
Does she say what happened? No, she says mare to Allah
41:47
Jamila. Like they have never referenced
41:50
such a thing happened to me. Why?
41:52
There's nothing to them. There's Office Sabil.
41:54
Allah right so. Like even.
41:56
Was effective. When Fatima Zahra Ali Assalam
41:58
that we believe she was attacked for her, she was protecting the
42:03
Imam of that time, which was right.
42:07
So what she is she going to come out and say, OK, they they took
42:11
my right. No, she's not.
42:13
This is my point. We try to find things because we
42:17
find it hard to believe and that's the reality of life.
42:20
What we don't want to accept something.
42:22
We'll come up with excuses even though it's there.
42:25
Let's look at, let's will, let's look at.
42:28
We know right and wrong. We see the world split in half.
42:31
We know what's oppression. We know what's occupation.
42:34
You know what, like sorry to sorry to talk to you, but on
42:37
that point, it's like, you know, you think like, you know,
42:40
there's elements in the Holy Quran which talk so much about
42:43
the punishment of of the disbelievers and the punishment
42:46
of the oppressors. Like sometimes you think like,
42:48
how would a Lord so merciful be able to do that to someone his
42:52
own creation? But then you see like the world
42:55
right now on the way that Palestine is being attacked and
42:57
destroyed and you know the the sheer destruction that you see
43:01
in Palestine and of course Lebanon, you think, well,
43:04
actually I believe that because. It makes it more real.
43:06
Those people who instigate and support and participate and
43:10
endorse that kind of behaviour, they deserve to be in the pits
43:13
of help. They deserve to be in the bottom
43:15
of house, you know, no oxygen in that Hellfire.
43:18
And and because of that, it makes you believe that all the
43:21
presses in history have ever done anything, any act of
43:24
violation to anyone should be in the same position.
43:28
Anyone who's harmed another human soul, anyone who's who's
43:31
denied the rights of a mother to see her child or, you know,
43:34
taking the life of innocent children or anyone who's just
43:37
done, you know, like there's a lot of people like me who find
43:40
certain things like bullying very upsetting.
43:43
When you see bullying that I remember when I used to teach in
43:45
Sunday school, I used to get so annoyed when I used to see kids
43:47
bully other kids. And I'd really take it
43:49
personally. And I think a lot of us when we
43:51
become parents, especially in the early stage, we go through
43:54
that experience as well. When you see any, any sort of
43:57
violence or aggression, you know, towards someone, it really
44:00
makes your blood boil. Now imagine that that is on a
44:03
higher degree with those who are doing this act to the daughter
44:07
of Rasulullah and in other in other settings maintain a
44:12
dignified persona or dignified character and they will they
44:16
will claim to be those of piety and those people with with
44:18
dignity and in other settings, perhaps not.
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But that opposition, let's call it opposition at the minimum and
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at the at the most, the opposition to the House of of
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Ali and Fatima Salam Alayiha is in itself is an abomination.
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You know that. That should be where it is.
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That should be what it's accepted.
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As and it's a sad reality of our history and if I can just go
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back to, I know interject it there, but I want to go back to
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the wall of Fatima because it continues.
44:46
You know, if you actually read the wall of Fatima, it's there
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for everyone to go on the Internet and Co read the wall of
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Fatima Salam that was written for Amir al Mummini.
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She mentions on there, Bury Me, You know, in The Secret of the
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Night. Why would she have to do that?
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And she goes on further. Don't invite a certain man to my
45:07
funeral, to my burial. You know, she doesn't want them
45:10
there. She, she, she actually states I
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don't want the people who oppressed me present at my
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janaza. If if we look at history, who,
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who angered her, It's easy to connect.
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The dots right connecting. Dots.
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Yeah, yeah, and it's all about connecting dots.
45:27
And Sage, should we move on? We can move on, but there is one
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narration I want to mention by Rasul Allah.
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And look, when Rasul Allah speaks, he's not lying.
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When Rasul Allah speaks and he doesn't speak from himself, he
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speaks with divine wisdom and with divine well of Allah upon
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of Attallah right And he says this and listen to this and we
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can find this in Bihar. When the last messenger one was
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on his deathbed, he cried until tears overtook his beard.
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He was asked what makes you cry, O Messenger of Allah?
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The Prophet answered, I am crying for my progeny for the
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crimes that will be committed against them by the evil doers
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of my nation after my death. My nation being my ummah, It is
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as if I can see my daughter Fatima being oppressed and
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crying about her or father, but no one will come to help her
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among my ummah. Father Zahra began weeping when
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she heard this, so the Prophet said to her, do not cry my
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daughter, She said I am not crying because of that which
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will be done to me after you rather I am crying because I
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will be separated from you or Rasul Allah he he sallallahu
46:54
Hawaii W Salaam replied rejoiced or daughter of Muhammad at this
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close accession to me for you will be the first to follow me
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from among my Helen mates. We see there's like a convo
47:06
right between his daughter and the prophet himself, for he
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references oppression towards his progeny, which is the Helen
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Bates, which we're supposed to hold on to and never let go.
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So we'll never deviate from the path of Salat al Mustafaim.
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And he references he can see an attack on his daughter and he
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tells her, you know, you'll be the first to join me.
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And something I think as a final point, I think surrounding her
47:32
martyrdom was that before she left this world, how did she
47:37
know she was she was approaching the near end of her life, Rasul
47:43
Allah. Her father came to her in the
47:44
dream, right? And this reassured.
47:46
And I think I think that helped ease her difficulties.
47:50
I think that alleviated some of the pain and some of the, you
47:54
know, afflictions that befell her and the tragic events that
47:58
surrounded her martyrdom. I need Rasul Allah coming to you
48:05
in the dream, saying, you know, rejoice, you're joining me.
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I don't care if they break my ribs.
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I don't care if they bump my door.
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I don't care, you know, if if, if they allow me to miscarry my
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baby. I don't care if you know, we
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even have narrations where they say this.
48:27
They struck the face of Fatima. So I don't want to go into
48:30
there, but for Fatima Zara, I genuinely believe she became an
48:35
armour and a shield for Amir al Mumminin because ultimately they
48:38
came to a house for what? To get the beta of Amir al
48:42
Mumminin, Alayhi Salaam. And we can maybe can have a
48:45
serious convoy, maybe in the upcoming Fatimid episodes,
48:47
because there will be a third, a third narration.
48:50
And perhaps I think we can have scholar join us, Charla, because
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I don't want to say something wrong and it's a sensitive topic
48:57
for lots of people. No, it is.
48:58
It is. And it's important I've careful.
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Ultimately said, look, we, we like, we, we, we, we have to say
49:05
like, you know, the, this, the event, the occasion which we
49:10
commemorate 3 * a year, quite literally.
49:14
And we, we remember across the year is, is so intertwined in
49:18
our history and our understanding of history.
49:21
And we're talking about one of the most pivotal figures in
49:26
Islam. So we have to, it's like an
49:28
obligation and responsibility on us to research it.
49:30
And then obviously beyond that, as an extension of that,
49:33
understand who she is and what she gave to Islam or what she
49:36
did for Islam and what she did for her family and all in the
49:40
service to our last part of Allah, Massive, massive
49:44
inspiration to us. And we are honoured to be
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Inshallah amongst those for accepted as those who are her
49:50
Shia, you know, and she is our Imam, She is our mother and we
49:53
look to her for guidance and to Wasol and Wasila and ultimately
49:59
the, the, the inspiration and the the shared guidance that we
50:04
need to carry on our life. I'm saying we we proudly name
50:07
our daughters after her and we proudly carry her name and her
50:11
legacy on. That's something that will last
50:13
forever. We should and I think every
50:14
parent out there should consider and look, we have narrations
50:17
that we have a hadith that if a family has, you know, a child
50:21
and they name them, for example, if it's a boy Muhammad or if
50:25
it's a female Fatima Alayhi Salaam, one of the their names,
50:30
for example, Ahmed Mustafa. Like these things are related to
50:33
Rasulullah, for example, and Sadiqa and Pahar and things like
50:36
this is all related funds that are in Salaam.
50:38
If you name your children those names that will poverty will not
50:42
enter that home. And there is more.
50:44
There's so much generations that comes from, you know, learning
50:47
from, from, from the names and importance of naming.
50:49
My daughter's. Name and naming our children and
50:54
and look, it goes without saying like these names are something
50:58
that if if we name our children after these names, this will be
51:02
a constant reminder of who the Heller base are because these.
51:06
Are people they won't. Die people will look up to Ahmed
51:08
Gani. Well, when we go to measure
51:09
this, right, and we cry and we mourn and but we have to learn
51:14
from their life as well. It's not.
51:15
Yes, the Martim is there, right? Yes, the Mossam are there.
51:18
The tears are there and everything.
51:19
And of course, the tears are there and it's impossible.
51:21
Yeah. I need not to cry for the ribs
51:24
that broke. Ali has Salaam al Fatima Zahra.
51:26
But then The thing is the the volume and the oppression of the
51:30
debate didn't end there. Rather it started there and it
51:34
went on and on and it went led to Karbala and so other things.
51:37
And we're here, we're here. We're talking about the ribs of
51:39
Sahara. What about the ribs of Abdullah
51:41
and the plains of Karbala? And we talk about the fire on
51:43
the door. What about the tents in Karbala?
51:45
Like these are all things I think we all have to reflect and
51:49
relate to. And you know, whilst I mentioned
51:51
this, I'll make this my final point.
51:52
I promise you. This is my final point.
51:53
Right back to the will apartment Sahara, something we missed out,
51:58
but we remember on Ashura as what?
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The will that Lady Fatima gave to her daughter Zeynep with Ali.
52:05
Ali has Salaam to fulfill. She had.
52:08
She had the wish. Yeah, I know what you say, God.
52:11
The shirt of Abad, the law, right, or the shirt of fatwa, we
52:14
call it on the day of judgement. You know, we have this hadith
52:18
and this is a mad hadith Ahmadiya we have and we have
52:22
many narrations actually not one.
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I think that's about 9:00 I've come across honestly, I've come
52:26
across about 9. Ahmed yeah, where it references
52:29
that on the day of judgements there will be a call that says
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lower your heads for passing is who Fatima with Rasulullah
52:39
sallallahu alaihi wasallam and was was in her hands the bloody
52:44
shirt of about Abdullah Hussein. So I ended there.
52:48
I don't want to, you know. Know it's very simple to
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tragedy. But Karbala is Karbala, and my
52:56
opinion is Karbala Assad. What's that mean for?
52:58
Yeah, yeah, did indeed. That's that's undoubted
53:01
unquestionable. Yeah.
53:04
What can we say? I don't have to say now, but I
53:07
look ultimately like when we see oppression around us today, we
53:11
have to say something. We have to do something.
53:13
We have to be active and we have to continue the fight.
53:17
We're still on the battlefield ultimately and we we have to
53:20
continue that fight. We have a place in this world.
53:24
We will have a duty in this world inshallah.
53:26
Mohammad is coming. Inshallah you're not even then,
53:28
but even from now like we have to, we have the work starts now.
53:31
And you know, I had a conversation with, with someone
53:34
today, someone respected and I respect and, and he asked me
53:40
about the role that we see ourselves in terms of a podcast
53:44
and what we want to do and achieve and what are places on
53:47
that battlefield. And I mentioned that I think
53:50
it's important to, to use what small platform we have and small
53:55
resources and experience we have to teach rather than maybe not
54:00
teach, but to share the message of the atheist beta, name some
54:03
and the Holy Quran to as many people as we can.
54:06
And to ultimately try and find hack ourselves and, and share it
54:10
with people around us. Because there's such a dire need
54:15
for it. The world is it's in special
54:17
terms of media is all over the place and there's disinformation
54:20
everywhere. And what is Shiism and Islam
54:24
more more generally is becoming widely distorted and, you know,
54:28
convoluted. And because of that, we need
54:31
more rational voices and more relevant voices in our field.
54:38
And I like, I encourage as many people at home to, to try and
54:42
find their niche and like we're trying to find ours as well and
54:47
to support because look, we, yeah, we do pods and every week
54:50
we're talking about this, next week we're talking about that.
54:52
But the broader message of what we're trying to do is develop
54:55
our identity, improve ourselves, elevate our knowledge and our
54:59
skill levels to the point where the Imam sees us as a valuable
55:03
asset to him. You know, we are, and I
55:05
mentioned this to you a lot, but we are such a minority in the
55:08
imams community, you know, 1% of his global Shia population who
55:13
live in the West, for example. And we speak the language of the
55:17
West and we're educated by the West and we understand the
55:20
psychology of the West and the behavioural aspects of the West.
55:23
And that is a massive advantage to him.
55:26
And, and we want to be worthy of being those who believe in his
55:29
message and the message of his, his forefathers and but who
55:35
practice in the West. So like that's our place.
55:39
That has to be our place. And I finally, like after 29
55:42
years of life, I think I've finally come to this point where
55:46
I'm like, our place is is here like a lot put us here for a
55:49
reason. And our our reason is to have my
55:52
jealous after me in London in 2024.
55:54
You know, I mean, like this is we're here for like a lot like
55:58
our purpose is to be here, right.
56:00
A lot, a lot knew that. You know, we're going to be
56:03
souls who will be crying for for Bibi Fata mind.
56:06
We're going to live 1000 years after her death, her her blessed
56:09
death and her let her departure from this world.
56:11
But we will be in a faraway land, speaking a faraway
56:14
language and we will be talking about a tragedy to a group of
56:17
people from all parts of the world.
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That is just mind blowing. Yeah.
56:21
And mind blowing. And the fact that we can
56:23
digitalise that conversation and share it with the world is even
56:26
more beautiful. Now you smashed it beautifully
56:28
said. Bro, it's madness, man.
56:30
It's absolutely madness. Beautiful reminder as well.
56:32
Yeah, Bros, reminder to all of us, man.
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Anyway, guys, we'll call it a day because I'm knackered.
56:37
It's like 1:00 AM. It's actually 1:00 AM we're.
56:39
Shattered. Shattered.
56:41
Knackered about another opportunity for commemoration.
56:44
Anything from? Fatima is Zahra.
56:45
Yeah, man. We say Rabbi be Fatima Abiha
56:50
about Alihawa Beniha was suddenly mistowed that Afiha
56:54
ajil faraja Mehdiha, may Allah hasten the reappearance of the
56:58
Imam of our time. Imam Sahabin Asari was Zaman the
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night in the combo here Salaam alaikum allahi.
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Salaam.