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ROR 137: Religion · Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison

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  Speaker 1: I'm going to discuss religion. Now, relax and don't change
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  Speaker 1: the channel. I'm not going to preach at you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, discuss the different merits of religion,
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  Speaker 1: you know, versus religion and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: I've made no bones about it. I am a Christian,
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  Speaker 1: uh you know. That's that's the belief system that you know,
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  Speaker 1: I believe in for various reasons which I will not
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  Speaker 1: go into on this platform. But religion is a huge,
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  Speaker 1: huge subject in prison, you know. And you have you
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  Speaker 1: have your three main religions, which would be Christianity, Islam,
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  Speaker 1: and uh Asa Truth which is also known as Odinism. Now,
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  Speaker 1: your Christianity and encompasses all race backgrounds, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: Islam is the predominantly black inmates, and Odinism is all whites. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, no other races are are allowed to you know,
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  Speaker 1: to participate in you know, Odinism. They're not allowed to
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  Speaker 1: go over to the meetings, they're not allowed to wear
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  Speaker 1: the hammer, you know, so and so forth. That that
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  Speaker 1: causes a lot of problems, but it's something that's it's
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  Speaker 1: religion is really coming to the forefront of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of prison politics simply because of the shape of the world.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the political divide here in America. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just on the streets, it's it's in prison too.
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  Speaker 1: You have fights over you have stabbings over it. You
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  Speaker 1: actually have people getting killed over it. That's a little rare,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's one of them, you know, once a
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  Speaker 1: year type of deals. However, it does happen, and it
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  Speaker 1: will continue to happen because you have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people in here. They don't know how to respect another
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  Speaker 1: man's religion. You know. As a matter of fact, we
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  Speaker 1: just had a case like two days ago into Pard
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  Speaker 1: that I'm in you know, you've got a guy in here. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say his name. He's he's in o.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's he's a Viking. He's he's a big
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  Speaker 1: white boy, and he's he wears a doors hammer. And
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  Speaker 1: you have this little you know, this little black guy.
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  Speaker 1: And he's a bit of a clown, not because he's black,
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  Speaker 1: just because that's his personality. Like he's he's a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a clown. You know. He likes to joke, he
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  Speaker 1: likes to have fun, and he's got some shady with him.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, he pulled up on a dune like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: how do I keep on with him? Right there? Pointing
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  Speaker 1: at the dude's hammers, and he just looked at him,
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  Speaker 1: said you will never get one of them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, I can't wear this, man, Like, but why
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  Speaker 3: why can't I wear it?
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  Speaker 1: And the Duke's looked at him and he said, man,
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  Speaker 1: why are you talking at me? Someone I can hate
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  Speaker 1: you and everything you stand for. And I mean, like
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  Speaker 1: it almost became a problem, and that you know, the
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  Speaker 1: little dude just took one huge dude step backwards, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And like when you have people that they don't think
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  Speaker 1: they don't you know, it's like, Okay, for example, I've
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  Speaker 1: told this story before. Then Remember I was really, really,
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  Speaker 1: really young at the time I did this. I was
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  Speaker 1: at Buckingham when I first came to the prison system,
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  Speaker 1: and I was going, uh, I was going down the
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  Speaker 1: boulevard into the library and you know, a black Muslim
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  Speaker 1: came out and you know, he said also on my legum,
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  Speaker 1: and I honestly didn't know what he said. But I
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  Speaker 1: was also a smart ass at the time, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't care, and you know, I told him and then
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  Speaker 1: my mama draws a Cadillac too, and the dude got
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  Speaker 1: just you know, I mean, he didn't make he didn't
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  Speaker 1: make nothing of it, but like he was still upset
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  Speaker 1: and then understandably so unrightfully. So I'll think it's the
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  Speaker 1: smart ass. But you have a lot of that happens.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, some people they can let stuff like
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  Speaker 1: that slot and some people to them miss life or
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  Speaker 1: death like their their belief system means everything to them.
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  Speaker 1: But you also have a lot of people that they
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  Speaker 1: use religion as a crutch, They use religion as a shield,
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  Speaker 1: you know, especially among Christianity. UH. You know, the Muslims,
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  Speaker 1: You've got a lot of You've got a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Guys in Islam in prison that.
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  Speaker 1: It's just another gang's that's the way for them to
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  Speaker 1: use UH, to use the phone, you know, to be
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  Speaker 1: able to UH. Because you know a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: Muslims in prison, they take care of their own That's
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  Speaker 1: one thing I do like about the Muslims in prison.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have hungry Muslims. You know, those who have
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  Speaker 1: they give to those who don't. You know, you see
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  Speaker 1: them eating and building all the time. You don't have
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  Speaker 1: that among Christianity. You know, you have a few guys
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  Speaker 1: that you know will help out those less fortunate. I'm
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  Speaker 1: one of those myself, but in Christianity, like it really is,
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  Speaker 1: like most most of the guys, I would probably say
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  Speaker 1: ninety percent of the people in prison who claim Christianity
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  Speaker 1: are fake. You know they're doing it costs to them,
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  Speaker 1: it's a game to them. You have guys that will
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  Speaker 1: stand up for them, guys that will protect them, guys
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  Speaker 1: that will help them out. No, there's nothing wrong with
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  Speaker 1: need and help, but there is something wrong with it
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  Speaker 1: when you joined for ulterior motives, like if you know
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  Speaker 1: it's the thing. I don't hang out with Christians in prison.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a part of them. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be associated with Christians in prison at
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  Speaker 1: all because I have a reputation and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: maintain that reputation. Like there's guys in here, like they're
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  Speaker 1: literally sitting at the table right now. You know, they're
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  Speaker 1: doing their little preaching thing and they're getting all loud,
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  Speaker 1: and you know they're they're doing their prayer circles, prayer call,
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  Speaker 1: praier call, and you know they call them out and
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  Speaker 1: they sang at six o'clock in a more and while
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  Speaker 1: people are trying to sleep. Now, I don't mind if
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  Speaker 1: you want to sign by all means, go ahead. Don't
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  Speaker 1: do it at six o'clock in the damn morning, and
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  Speaker 1: don't do it at the top of your bronx. But
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  Speaker 1: they've got that holier than now. They want to they
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  Speaker 1: want to be seen, they want to be recognized. So
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  Speaker 1: for any of you who are writing people you know
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  Speaker 1: in prison and they talk about, oh, yeah, I'm a Christian,
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  Speaker 1: I'm this and that. Yeah, it sounds good, but that's
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  Speaker 1: all it does is sound good, and it causes problems.
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  Speaker 1: That's like, I believe in what I believe in, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I make no apologies for work, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to stand on it. I believe in what I
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  Speaker 1: believe in. I just don't preach it. I don't push
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  Speaker 1: it at someone. I don't go around trying to end
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  Speaker 1: age people in conversations. My belief is my belief, and
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  Speaker 1: it's between me and my God. Right or wrong, it's
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  Speaker 1: between me and my God. Now, if somebody asked me
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  Speaker 1: a question, I will answer, But even then it makes
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  Speaker 1: me uncomfortable because it's nobody's business but my own. But
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  Speaker 1: you've got a lot of fake dudes in here, and
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  Speaker 1: that that that's really been bothering me the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of months. You know. Yeah, I'm in a great person.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in the best prison I've ever I've ever been in.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a few things about this place, and
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  Speaker 1: I would change if I could, absolutely, However, this is
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  Speaker 1: the best prison I've ever been in.
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  Speaker 3: But yet I'm seeing.
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  Speaker 1: A whole lot of fakeness, you know. Like You've got
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  Speaker 1: this group called Cairos that comes into prison, and I've
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  Speaker 1: got a beef with them, and honestly, I had I've
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  Speaker 1: kind of thought about going over there, signing up and
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  Speaker 1: going over there just so I can say something to them,
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  Speaker 1: because when they come in, they bring cookies and cakes
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  Speaker 1: and pies and coffee and tea and juice and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: And you're robbing guys to come over there and listen
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  Speaker 1: to Christianity. Like that is wrong, Like guys are going
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  Speaker 1: over there just just to eat some cookies and drink
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  Speaker 1: coffee and whatnot for free? Do you really want somebody
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  Speaker 1: to join your group, to join your organization, to join
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  Speaker 1: your belief system for cookies and coffee? Like, how can
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  Speaker 1: you trust them? How can How can you believe in
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  Speaker 1: their sincerity when you have to pay them to believe
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  Speaker 1: what you believe in? You can't. It's it's impossible, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, Like, I'm not bashing Christianity.
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  Speaker 1: I am a Christian. I just I actually live it though.
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  Speaker 1: There's that's the difference between me and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these other dudes. I do the best I can.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not perfect.
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  Speaker 1: I fail far more than I succeed. But I'm in
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  Speaker 1: the fight. I'm struggling to overcome some of my faults,
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  Speaker 1: overcome some of my weaknesses and the way you know,
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  Speaker 1: I used to think, in the way I used to
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  Speaker 1: believe in, acting so and so forth. My Christianity is
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  Speaker 1: actually making me a better person slowly, but it's it's
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  Speaker 1: working that in my own desire to just not be
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  Speaker 1: you know, young ass punk anymore. But you've got the
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  Speaker 1: same thing in Islam, like you've got some dudes that
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  Speaker 1: are legit. You've got some dudes that are real, but
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  Speaker 1: the overwhelming maturity of the people who claim Islam in prison,
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  Speaker 1: they're using it as a game. They're using it as
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  Speaker 1: a shield. I kind of wish that religion would be
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  Speaker 1: banned in prison. I know that will never happen, and
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  Speaker 1: it can't happen, you know, simply because you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: allowed thirteen books. One of those books can be a
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  Speaker 1: religious text. So you know, if I buy a Bible
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  Speaker 1: or somebody sends me one, then there's nothing the Department
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  Speaker 1: of Corrections can do about it. But I really think
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  Speaker 1: that they should get rid of all religious services in prison,
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  Speaker 1: because like when guys go over to the chaplain for
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  Speaker 1: their religious services, they're not going over there to actually
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  Speaker 1: hold services. They're going over to talk to their home
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  Speaker 1: boys from another building, from other pods that they don't
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  Speaker 1: get to see through the regular course of the day
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  Speaker 1: or the week. You know, they go over there to
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  Speaker 1: pass stuff. You know, they they take care of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of business opportunities during that time. I just I
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  Speaker 1: have a problem with people being fake. Like if you
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  Speaker 1: have a person who's sincere in their belief but yet
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  Speaker 1: they really really struggle that they constantly fail, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they just can't seem to get right. Like I can
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  Speaker 1: respect that. I will get behind that person and do
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  Speaker 1: everything I can to motivate and encourage and help that person,
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  Speaker 1: give them as much advice as I can, you know,
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  Speaker 1: be there for them, take them under my wing. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a single person like that in the
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  Speaker 1: part of man. I really, I'm just I'm so fed
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  Speaker 1: up with fake people. I'm so fed up with people
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  Speaker 1: using a belief as a crudge, as a tool of manipulation,
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  Speaker 1: as a tool to get something, and they make and
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  Speaker 1: they don't even realize they make it worse for everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: How many of these dudes are writing organizations, Like I've
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  Speaker 1: known people who have thousands of dollars and they'll write
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  Speaker 1: to these little Christian organizations, you know. They'll write some
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  Speaker 1: Muslim organizations or Jewish organizations or whatever, you know, whatever
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  Speaker 1: they happened to be involved in. Hell, some people write
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  Speaker 1: all four, five or six of them, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: they ask, hey, can you send me twenty dollars, Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm really struggling in here. I need to buy some
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  Speaker 1: hychain and like, you know, my family just they don't
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  Speaker 1: have it. For whatever reason, you know, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: like these these places, you know they would you know,
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  Speaker 1: they don't really do it anymore. But they used to
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  Speaker 1: send money a lot, you know, to help guys, and
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  Speaker 1: guys will just manipulate them. They didn't need it. They
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  Speaker 1: just simply stealing to be stealing, because that's who they are.
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  Speaker 1: But yet they'll be standing in the pard preaching the
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  Speaker 1: Gospel or preaching Mohammad or whoever, you know, at the
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  Speaker 1: top of their damn lungs holier than now. Like I
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  Speaker 1: have a buddy of mine. When he left the gangs,
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  Speaker 1: he wanted he wanted some structure. He wanted like that bond,
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  Speaker 1: like that kind of family atmosphere that he had in
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  Speaker 1: the gangs. So when he got out, he went to
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  Speaker 1: Christian services, and you had this one guy, this preacher
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  Speaker 1: was up hearing. I mean, he was denouncing homosexuality. I'm coming.
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  Speaker 1: He was the U will go to burning hell, no
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  Speaker 1: good pieces. I'm like, I'm like, he's hell fire and
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  Speaker 1: brimstone on homosexuality. Dude sitting there listening to it. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know he doesn't really believe in homosexuality himself. Uh
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  Speaker 1: So he come back to the part after services and everything,
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  Speaker 1: and later that night, you know, he's in the paw.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's in the cell next door to this
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  Speaker 1: guy who's doing the preaching, and he'd been kind of
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  Speaker 1: talking to some marve woman, you know, seeing what they're about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just you know, trying to get a gauge
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  Speaker 1: for their their character, their personality, you know, whether they
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  Speaker 1: believe so and so forth. And that name the guy
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  Speaker 1: that was preaching against homosexuality his cell. He was bending
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  Speaker 1: him over, having that dude screaming like, oh yeah, give
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  Speaker 1: it to me. Oh, I mean, he told me this
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  Speaker 1: story and he was like, man, that's why I walked
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  Speaker 1: away from Christian services like that, That's why I went
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  Speaker 1: out and joined the Muslim service because you're like, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have this in Muslim services. I had to sit
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  Speaker 1: there and tell him brought like that, I don't mean
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  Speaker 1: to burst your bubbles when but you got you got
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  Speaker 1: you know, undercover homosexual buffles in prison, you got homosexual
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  Speaker 1: undercover everything in prison, odin Jews, it don't matter, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But he was like, but that's the reason why he
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  Speaker 1: never went back to Christian services, and he wound up
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  Speaker 1: actually joining Islam because he felt that it was more structure,
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  Speaker 1: that it was more you know, more real, which I
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  Speaker 1: kind of understand, like, yeah, that's the stuff you deal
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  Speaker 1: with in here. When he comes to religions in prison.
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  Speaker 1: In my opinion, you got maybe maybe ten to fifteen
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  Speaker 1: percent of the dudes who claim religion, any kind of religion,
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  Speaker 1: any kind of belief system, that are legit and sincere
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  Speaker 1: with it and trying to do it. And I can understand, like,
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  Speaker 1: it's tough to live. It's tough to live by you
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  Speaker 1: have one minute remaining. It's tough to live by a
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  Speaker 1: religious belief in prison. It's tough to live in prison,
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  Speaker 1: period because you've got all kinds of crap that is
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  Speaker 1: going on in here daily. But that's my take on
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  Speaker 1: religion in prison, right or wrong, accept it or don't.
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  Speaker 1: I gave it to you straight, and that's all I
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  Speaker 1: can do.
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