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Highlight Reel of Suicide 101 — David Wilcock, Trauma & PTSD Insights from Brain-Based Therapist Terrina Picarello · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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  Hello everyone, it's Michael Jaco with Unleashing Intuition Secrets.
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  Joined once again by Tarina Picarillo and we're, having a nice little
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  conversation just before we get started.
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  And it's been a while since you've been on Tarina.
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  Yeah.
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  So I'm gonna give a little bit background on you.
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  Experience and expertise across many di disciplines enables her to offer effective
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  indivi, individualized outpatient psychological care and consultation.
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  She treats a number of mental health disorders and provides a safe and caring
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  pla place for individuals, families, and couples to create their best life.
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  And her treatment focus is brain-based care and mental health nutrition.
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  And Trina's actually helped me my little,
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  yes.
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  Brain fog.
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  So she's, I've been using this for several years, thanks to her.
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  I'm not perfect, I'm much better, I think, because of it.
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  Thank you, ENA.
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  And yeah, if
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  you think about the history of your brain, right?
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  And then
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  that's right.
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  Ptsd, TSD and all that kind of stuff, brain trauma from
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  blowing brain injuries up, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  You fantastic with that.
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  She's brain-based.
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  The, she's a brain-based therapist.
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  Yeah.
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  And first looks at the function of the brain systems as a
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  baseline for the treatment plan.
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  Torina works closely with the Amin Amen clinics and is trained as a brain health
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  coach and mental health nutritionist.
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  In some cases, a computerized assessment of brain function and
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  resilience to stress is recommended.
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  If there are issues in these areas, a brain training program
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  can be customized for each client.
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  This is very helpful in couples counseling.
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  Often there is brain-based issue with one or both partners.
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  And when this is addressed, many relational issues are resolved.
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  So Trina great.
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  Great to have you back on again.
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  Yeah.
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  There's
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  a lot of stuff going on.
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  How have you been?
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  Been good.
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  Been good?
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  Yes.
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  I'm officially an empty nester, so I'm adjusting to not having
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  kids underfoot and all that.
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  And that's where I'm at.
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  I'm 60 years old, so I'm in that place in my life.
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  But, just also staying busy.
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  Very good.
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  Yeah.
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  So you can see why, 'cause your expertise is fantastic.
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  So I, I can't imagine you being if you want to be
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  Yeah.
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  Sedentary or not doing anything.
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  Yeah, I li it's fun to, have somebody come in with something and be really stuck
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  and then be able to get them unstuck.
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  It's pretty fun.
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  Yeah.
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  I like doing it.
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  It's very rewarding.
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  But, thinking about just all of us taking care of ourselves, now in a
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  way, I like to share this information.
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  I didn't come up with this stuff that maybe I'll show you today.
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  I learned from great people and it's always fun, to actually take a
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  training and it actually be helpful, and you take a training and then
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  you can actually use it right away.
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  I've just been real fortunate to have really good teachers and it just works.
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  The more people that can just learn about this, then, somebody will learn
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  something today and pass it on, and we're all in this together, and we're all just
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  trying to, help each other and figure it.
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  Yeah,
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  definitely.
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  We talked a little bit about David Wilcock and, Yeah.
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  The situation now suicide 1 0 1.
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  Give us the background.
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  Yeah.
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  Obviously I heard about David Wilcock and what happened with him, and I
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  have a personal reaction to that.
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  I have a person too, outside of being a therapist.
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  And my personal reaction was, really sad and really upset and
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  really impacted, it affected me.
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  And David Wilcox is somebody that I've ran across in different things that I'm, some
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  of the things that I'm doing as continuing education as a therapist, but sometimes
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  just what I'm interested in as a person.
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  And I think the way that I ran across him, I was trying to think
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  about where did I even start?
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  Learning about him, but Bruce Lipton, you know who he is?
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  Oh yeah.
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  So he is somebody that talks a lot about brain-based stuff and he talks about a
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  lot of the sciencey stuff about how to be an actualized person and spirituality.
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  And he blends spirituality with science.
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  He's a cell biologist.
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  So I think the first way that I learned about David was through
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  Bio Osmosis, through Bruce Lipton, where sometimes Bruce Lipton
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  and Greg Braden is another one.
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  Yep.
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  Great.
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  That I've known for a really long time, maybe 20 years.
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  And.
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  You tend to see that Greg Braden and Bruce Lipton will probably
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  present at a similar conference.
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  Like we're all familiar.
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  We go to a certain conference, there are certain speakers that are
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  clustered around a certain topic.
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  And so there's things that I would go to that were more science and as
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  a brain, the brain geek that I am, I'm obviously really into the science
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  part of things, but I liked about them that they would blend the science part
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  of, being a person and consciousness and, being a conscious, aware person
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  and spirituality and all that.
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  So I think the way that I ran across David Wilcock was through watching things where
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  I would maybe see one of them speaking.
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  And and then he would also be presented.
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  And then I think on Gaia, of course.
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  Yep.
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  Bruce Lipton would be on there.
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  Greg Braden was on there.
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  I've read all their books and very familiar with their stuff, and
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  I use a lot of, for sure, those two Bruce Lipton and Greg Braden.
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  I use a lot of their stuff in my practice as a psychotherapist all the time.
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  And Greg Braden is,
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  The nice part of that is you're very spiritual minded.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So I love that, integration.
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  That's very good.
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  Yeah.
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  My first master's degree.
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  Was in spiritual psychology.
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  Wow.
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  So when I decided to be a therapist, I actually,
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  I had no idea there was such a thing.
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  That's amazing.
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  I know.
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  There, there isn't now.
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  It was a thing for a minute and it's not a thing anymore.
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  But it was back then, so this is around 2000 and I was like a little
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  PTA mom, girl scout leader had little kids doing the stay at home mom thing.
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  And then I was thinking like, okay, at some point these people will be like.
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  Out and running and have their own life.
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  So let me start getting an education and I thought being a
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  therapist would be a good mommy job.
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  Like it's, I could be my own boss, I could work what I wanted.
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  I wouldn't be stuck in an office eight to five, somebody telling me
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  like, I'm not allowed to take a day off to go see my kid, get an award.
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  So I was thinking like a therapist would be like a more of a run
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  your own life kind of business.
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  And so I'm looking around for programs and I happen to live in Southern California.
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  So I was in Anaheim.
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  And so there was a spiritual psychology program in in Santa Monica.
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  That's where the school was.
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  And it was a University of Santa Monica.
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  And they had at that time an accredited program where you
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  could get a master's degree that.
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  Allowed, accepted the credentials of that school to then go on and be licensed
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  as a marriage and family therapist.
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  And so it was a credentialed, accredited program at the time.
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  But the content was very interesting to me 'cause I was
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  already looking into spirituality and always interested in that.
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  Alway already taking a lot of courses in that kind of ilk.
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  And a spiritual psychology master's degree would be fun, but also
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  it helped me to get licensed.
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  So whenever I.
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  Learned all that stuff.
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  It's, it really blended with all the, speakers like that, right?
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  And so that's the thing that I really liked about David Wilcock is yeah,
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  he is somebody who blended science.
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  A lot of geeky, nerdy science stuff, which I love.
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  I can geek out and I love all that kind of stuff.
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  And and spirituality whenever I ran across him accidentally, looking
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  at other things, like I loved him.
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  He was a great speaker.
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  I enjoyed him.
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  I was really interested.
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  I think for me personally, what I liked about him is he was sciencey
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  and he could go real deep into some kind of piece of science.
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  And for me it was fun to watch, it's fun to watch somebody that really
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  knows their stuff and just can just go.
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  And so I think for me, what I liked about him, what resonated for me is just that
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  part of him that, you get that guy talking about a go Dita Hadron I can't even say
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  all those words, but, some of that was just fun to watch him get on a roll and
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  yeah, he did excellent research.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  And had so many good people on, over the years I read every one of his books.
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  Yeah.
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  Had them all set.
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  He had in Hawaii we gotta swim with dolphins and, go to the, close
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  to where the lava was flowing.
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  They could, they wouldn't let us go get too close.
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  But yeah he was absolutely amazing and very personable.
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  Yeah, it was his birthday and we like, gave him a birthday party, so it was fun.
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  He's
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  very, yeah, so for, yeah, so for me too, like all I can do is I
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  don't wanna indulge in gossip, so I don't wanna talk about somebody.
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  So that is not what my intention is to just talk about
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  someone that's passed, but.
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  To talk about myself and my experience of him and how I was blessed by him.
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  So I'm gonna un unapologetically be a David Wilcock fan.
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  I'm a fan.
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  Yeah.
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  I liked him.
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  I liked his content.
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  I liked how he as a person would blend who he was as a person to
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  whatever content he was talking about.
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  And I think that's important, and that's why you wanna listen to
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  somebody, is you feel that resonance with somebody's kind of energy and
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  what they bring to the subject matter.
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  So it's not just about the subject matter, it's also about,
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  the speaker and the person.
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  And so what I liked about him is I think.
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  In my own experience, he had this nice blend of a sweetheart,
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  like just a sweet little, he had a certain innocence about him.
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  And he was also just like a brainiac, he could just geek out and just
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  go deep on some kind of content, whether it was spirit spirituality,
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  whether it was some kind of like real basic science geometry physics.
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  And then he could talk about UFOs and all that kind of stuff.
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  So I was like, he was a fun person to watch and I was entertained by
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  him and I also I think post COVID when all of our worlds changed and he
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  started doing some of his like little, shows I would see some of those and
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  then I got to see the part of him.
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  In a different way where he's just doing a podcast in his home.
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  You get to see a little different part of him versus at a
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  conference or in a studio at Gaia.
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  Then you get to see a little bit more of his, personality and
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  him just being a real person.
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  And again, I thought he was enjoyable and I thought at times he was funny.
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  And at times he was adorable.
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  And, I don't know if a grown man wants to be described as adorable, there
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  was a little, a definitely adorable quality to little David Wilcock.
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  He would, he could be adorable.
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  Yeah.
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  And what I
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  also, when I met him I thought it was, you look at him on and he's sweet and
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  Yeah.
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  Soft spoken.
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  You're like, and when you meet him, he's like a tall guy.
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  Yeah.
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  Really saying, I find out that he had a martial arts background.
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  I'm a martial artist.
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  Wow.
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  And I can look at someone and go, yeah, he's a badass.
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  So I saw that in him.
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  So he had both of that and he was like, just so kind and so giving, it's crazy.
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  So see, he's a multidimensional guy, right?
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  Yeah.
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  There's many dimensions there.
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  He's a multiple kind of thing.
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  He is not one thing, he's a multidimensional
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  person like all of us are.
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  It's a lot more interesting when you're multidimensional and
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  you're not one or two dimensional.
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  And so he was very complex and what I liked about his little show that he had
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  been doing recently, this is just my own experience of watching it, is I noticed
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  that he's kind of person that when there were certain things going on in the chat,
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  so he would, he was really responsive.
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  And so to me, again, this is me being a brain geek.
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  To me that gave me a sense of his brain type.
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  'cause that's just what I do for a living is I look at brains all
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  day and brain types and all that.
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  And so I've done it for so long now, almost 20 years, that when I'm around
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  somebody, whether I should be doing it or not, I just I know how they're
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  wired, what their biases are, how their equipment works, so to speak.
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  And so like I got a sense of him just by him.
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  He's trying to do a show and he's also like really relational
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  and he's like really relational.
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  And to me it was to be relational, to like really be joining and it
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  takes a different kind of person.
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  And also a brain type to just be able to track two things like that at once.
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  And what I liked about him as far as maybe what I'm saying is like a
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  sweetness or, an endearing quality would be, that he would call out when
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  people were being rude or offensive.
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  And he had moderators, of course, like everybody to catch the trolls, but he
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  was also really good in how he managed.
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  He had a certain sweetness and a certain consistency to not really go negative.
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  He was very kind in how he would say things give feedback and he
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  would also create boundaries.
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  Oh, we're not gonna go there.
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  We're not gonna say that.
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  Yep.
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  Let's not use that word.
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  Let's not, go negative.
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  And he had a certain consistent, way that he wanted everybody to be
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  respected, be respectable, be kind.
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  I know sometimes he would read, like part of his presentation, he would
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  read something that someone said one of the maybe what did he call 'em?
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  That alliance post on one thing or another.
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  And he would purposely read over certain words that were like, charged, like
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  for an adult audience, maybe none of those words were really even a big deal.
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  But to him, he had a certain, like decency and he had a certain decorum and he had
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  a certain kind of like protection of protecting all of our innocence and just,
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  being decent and kind instead of crude.
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  He wouldn't root, he wouldn't read.
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  Words that were crude or, which is cute.
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  Again, it's an adult conversation, but that's adorable for somebody to do that.
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  And then I think for me personally, when I was in high school, some of
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  my best friends were in the theater and I had a drama class, and all my
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  theater geek friends would be in there.
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  And some of those were like my best friends, and I loved the theater people.
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  And he reminds me of a lot of my high school friends that were some
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  of my closer, more fun friends.
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  And so he has that part of him that he's like a theater person and he's dramatic.
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  And he acts like a person who's in a high school drama class, right?
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  Oh yeah.
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  When he did Angry Daddy.
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  Oh yeah.
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  That's like what people, that's what people in my high
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  school drama class would do.
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  And it is yes, it's maybe immature, but it wasn't, it was done for fun.
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  He was being playful.
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  Yep.
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  He w he was just doing it because it, it is important to sometimes be an
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  adult and be silly and be playful.
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  And that is something that I, it's on my little list of things to do
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  when I create a treatment plan.
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  If somebody's going from being a ball of stress to being a normal,
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  functional human, I make them play.
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  I put it in their treatment plant and sometimes they get mad at me and some
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  very serious, people, they roll their eyes and they get a little irritated
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  and I'm like that's not optional.
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  This is, and when I do a treatment plan for addiction on their treatment plan
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  is a whole section for what are you gonna do to be playful and to remind
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  yourself that life should also be fun.
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  That's brilliant.
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  And you can't take yourself too seriously.
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  And sometimes it is a tenet of mental health to just be silly and goofy.
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  Just to do it.
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  Just do it because, so I kinda liked him because he always did
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  that in each of his little podcasts.
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  He would just be silly.
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  And that is actually a pillar of mental health.
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  So I was like, oh, you get little points for that.
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  So that is a mental health behavior is to just be silly and goofy.
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  And there's just lots of things that I liked about him.
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  And so to hear that he had passed was one thing, upsetting.
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  'cause he I enjoyed him.
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  I liked him a lot.
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  And then.
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  Also a suicide.
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  So that was really additionally hard, which it always would be.
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  If you hear that someone passes away and you hear that it's a
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  suicide, it hits you different.
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  Yeah, it hits you different.
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  So I was just thinking that, we all are individuals and we have these little
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  families of things that we watch.
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  Like I would say I'm a Michael Jaco intuitive warrior.
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  I'm part of that little family, and whoever watches you, we have a
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  certain cohort, we have a certain group and we have a, we obviously
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  have to have a certain thing in common to hang out together.
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  And so there was probably a David Wilcock cohort and there's a Bruce Lipton cohort
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  and there's a lot of overlap and all that.
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  So I was thinking, as I was sitting with it, is.
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  Just the fact that he passed and then the layer of and death by suicide.
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  I thought it might be neat to just reach out to everybody and create a
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  common conversation around suicide, because that's something that I know on
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  my side of professional mental health is nobody wants to talk about it and
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  nobody knows how to talk about it.
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  It's one of those subjects that everybody just skips over.
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  And I talk about it a lot 'cause I'm in mental health and I know for sure
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  that it is something that everybody is better and everything is safer if we talk
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  about it and we have a common definition of what it is and what it's not.
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  So I know around David Wilcox's death, there's all this stuff around it, right?
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  So there's.
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  Different theories and there's different camps and people are
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  already saying it's this, it's that.
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  So there's that happening.
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  And what I would want everybody to realize if you've ever had a suicide in
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  your family or in your community, like it was someone at work that happened
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  to, or somebody in your neighborhood, it's not a very common thing.
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  Suicide is not very common.
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  But when you do have it, that's exactly what happens to people, is people in
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  the family say It's this, it was that.
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  It's not that.
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  It's this.
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  And people fight over, just what happened, whether it happened.
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  People get very upset which makes sense if somebody in their family commits
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  suicide because in general people take offense and people feel very betrayed.
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  People get mad at the person that passed.
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  How dare you do that to us?
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  How could you do that to us?
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  So then there's the whole complex grief of being super mad
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  at somebody that passed away.
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  So then are you allowed to also be sad?
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  And how does all that work?
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  And so that's part of why suicide is something that we
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  don't know very much about.
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  'cause again, we're uncomfortable even talking about it and
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  we don't handle that well.
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  So I was just thinking that maybe if we just sit together and tease through you.
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  Some of that, however much wanna talk about that.
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  But certainly I think if we can, if I can help today, create a common understanding
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  of suicide, what it even is and what it's not, and just clear up some of the myths
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  and the misunderstandings about it, then maybe everybody can just pass that along.
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  Because there's a v there's a real vacuum out there in anybody
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  talking about suicide, really knowing very much about it.
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  And there's tons of myths and just, old wives tales and just a
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  lot of wrong information about it.
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  So I certainly thought today might be an opportunity for us to do that.
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  Yeah, definitely.
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  And we'll just see what we all think because it's just as good as anything
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  else of, relates to all of us of, when we don't agree on what happened
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  somewhere or what's behind something.
• 20:50
  I think that's a common thing we're all talking about.
• 20:52
  In general.
• 20:54
  Yeah.
• 20:54
  We're talking about the shooting with Trump.
• 20:56
  Is it, this, is it, that is it, this is it.
• 20:59
  How do we know all that stuff?
• 21:00
  So this applies to that too.
• 21:02
  And I was thinking that maybe if we have an understanding of suicide, let's
• 21:09
  say we're gonna go down the train of thought of in the, I don't know, truth
• 21:14
  or community or in the whatever we wanna call some of these communities.
• 21:19
  Just people that wanna know what's going on, whatever that
• 21:23
  group is, what's going on.
• 21:24
  Then if you wanna know what's going on when political people or
• 21:29
  celebrities or public figures have a suicide, so we're talking about the
• 21:34
  scientists, the 11 scientists that have, are having mysterious deaths.
• 21:38
  Now some of that is suicide, but it's not all suicide.
• 21:42
  Some of it is just mysterious death.
• 21:45
  And I think the reason it's important to understand suicide and have a
• 21:49
  working understanding of what it is and what it's not, that even
• 21:53
  helps you figure that stuff out.
• 21:55
  If there's a mysterious death and you have to go, what happened to this person?
• 22:00
  Is it a disappearance?
• 22:02
  Was it a homicide?
• 22:03
  Was it a suicide?
• 22:05
  What?
• 22:05
  What was it?
• 22:06
  Shouldn't you have a depth on suicide so that you can rule it in or rule it out?
• 22:12
  If you don't know very much about suicide, then how are you
• 22:15
  gonna rule it in or rule it out?
• 22:18
  When you only go, you only have a depth of a superficial level.
• 22:22
  It's not probably very helpful.
• 22:24
  So maybe today if we can all just have a little bit deeper and wider understanding
• 22:30
  of what suicide is and what it's not, we can even figure things like that out.
• 22:34
  It's just helpful to know.
• 22:36
  You know how I think you are very helpful in just how you went over the shooting.
• 22:42
  You have an understanding of weapons and protocol and security detail.
• 22:49
  So that's super helpful for you to go here's my training, here's my experience.
• 22:54
  This shouldn't look like that.
• 22:56
  This sort of looks right, this doesn't look right.
• 22:58
  So I want everybody to do that and lead people through that for suicide.
• 23:03
  What is it, what should it look like?
• 23:05
  What do you, how do you, what should you save if it, if you have it?
• 23:08
  And that kind of thing.
• 23:09
  So that's what I presented for everybody today.
• 23:13
  Sounds good.
• 23:16
  Yeah so by my perspective, we can look at your mental health background and whether
• 23:22
  you would say yes, no, some problems here.
• 23:25
  What I do with, like you were talking about.
• 23:27
  Just from my, background and what I've looked at and I've seen a lot of
• 23:32
  these people disappear over the years.
• 23:35
  Yeah.
• 23:35
  And it, it's very suspect to me that, and I know a lot of these people, are suicided
• 23:43
  or, they commit suicide because they have no other recourse that could be it.
• 23:48
  And it could be he was disappeared and so that he could go on, do his
• 23:52
  work and wouldn't have to worry about, being suicide or killed or whatever.
• 23:56
  So there's all those different aspects of it.
• 23:59
  Which one is it?
• 24:00
  Will we ever know?
• 24:02
  Maybe not, but we can, like you said, have that discussion.
• 24:05
  Yeah.
• 24:06
  Let's just look at context clues and let's just see what's the
• 24:09
  information that we know or could know.
• 24:13
  What's the information we're not gonna know.
• 24:15
  Yeah.
• 24:16
  And then just see.
• 24:17
  What pieces we have and what pieces we don't have.
• 24:21
  Because one thing that I feel some pieces that I might have is as
• 24:26
  I watched him just as a consumer
• 24:30
  As I watched him I just because of who I am, I got a sense of his brain type
• 24:35
  and I got a sense of how he runs energy and I got a sense of his neurobiology
• 24:41
  and I got a sense of how his personality interplays with his neurobiology.
• 24:47
  And I also work with a lot of people who have depression and anxiety.
• 24:51
  The normal garden variety kind.
• 24:53
  Then I have, I work quite a bit with people and have a lot of experience with
• 24:57
  people who have a severe mental illness.
• 25:00
  Okay, so people that have a severe mental illness, like major depressive
• 25:05
  disorder and or maybe bipolar disorder, then those people have a chronic
• 25:12
  health issue that's very severe.
• 25:14
  It impacts their daily functioning.
• 25:17
  It's a whole different animal than just the normal garden variety, anxiety,
• 25:22
  depression, that kind of comes and goes.
• 25:24
  That's a whole different thing to have an actual mental illness.
• 25:27
  So I think one thing I've heard about David Wilcox of other people that knew
• 25:33
  him Jay Weidner worked with him on Gaia.
• 25:36
  He has said some things of, when I worked with David, here's some experiences I had.
• 25:42
  His family has said in their official statement, his family said,
• 25:47
  he struggled with mental health and I think they said depression.
• 25:52
  And so I think.
• 25:54
  If we have some information from his family, we have to
• 25:59
  say that's a credible source.
• 26:02
  His family is saying he struggled with depression, he struggled
• 26:06
  with mental health issues.
• 26:09
  And so there's some context there.
• 26:12
  And I think from his show that he had been doing recently I did see that, just my
• 26:19
  own experience and the lens that I have, I saw things that in him were consistent
• 26:26
  with somebody who has a chronic, more long-term kind of depression.
• 26:32
  And just, he was very forth.
• 26:35
  He would share, here's how my week went.
• 26:37
  And, sometimes he would share like, I haven't been sleeping.
• 26:40
  Or he would say, he went a little too, TMI.
• 26:43
  So sometimes he would really give the grizzly details of like his
• 26:48
  bowels or, some other thing or he would go into a little bit of too
• 26:54
  much detail when his dog was sick.
• 26:56
  His dog was sick.
• 26:56
  Yeah.
• 26:56
  And he is talking about the barf and I'd have to like, skim through it because I
• 27:01
  don't love to hear that kind of stuff.
• 27:03
  So again, that was funny, but he's just being real, right?
• 27:06
  So I think from some of the things that while I'm watching the show and
• 27:11
  he would, intersperse personal things like that, I did get a sense, I don't
• 27:17
  know him, I've never met him, but I did get a sense that he probably had
• 27:22
  some sort of physiological, organic kind of tendencies towards depression.
• 27:28
  There's just kind of some themes of that in there.
• 27:31
  And so I think.
• 27:33
  Maybe at the end when we hear of his death and his family says
• 27:38
  he had, lifelong mental health issues that resonated with me.
• 27:42
  So then I'm like, oh, okay.
• 27:43
  His family says that now.
• 27:45
  My little brain goes, oh, and I've had these senses and I've observed these
• 27:51
  things when he's been doing his podcast.
• 27:53
  And so there's some of that lines up and that there's some, synchronicity
• 27:58
  and some sinking up in that way.
• 28:01
  So it does, he does seem, in my observation, to be someone who
• 28:05
  probably did have mental health issues.
• 28:07
  So I would say if somebody in the public eye all of a sudden has
• 28:13
  drops off, maybe they quit and they just, don't wanna participate
• 28:18
  anymore, or they pass away, or.
• 28:21
  There's a death by suicide.
• 28:23
  If somebody never had any resonance with depression, they never ever
• 28:28
  ever had any context of that in anything, and there's not a history,
• 28:34
  then that's a different thing.
• 28:36
  So I would say we do have some resonance with, anecdotal references of people
• 28:42
  that worked with him that say, yes, he had some mental health issues, he
• 28:47
  had some stuff, you can have mental health issues and just manage it.
• 28:51
  Sure, certainly.
• 28:53
  And so does that mean it's life threatening?
• 28:57
  No, it wouldn't necessarily mean it's life threatening.
• 29:00
  So then it would be like, okay, if it goes to that level, why?
• 29:03
  Why would it go to that level?
• 29:05
  What would happen?
• 29:06
  That would take somebody from general malaise and general depression, and even
• 29:10
  really pretty struggling with depression to then take their own life, something.
• 29:16
  Substantial has to fit for that to make sense.
• 29:21
  So again,
• 29:23
  some points
• 29:23
  without having access to all the details, that's all we're gonna
• 29:27
  do is just try to figure it out.
• 29:29
  We may touch on that as I show you about that.
• 29:32
  If there's any kind of things that make sense to you, we could stop and talk
• 29:35
  about that and if people on the chat wanna, jump in about stuff like that.
• 29:40
  Yeah.
• 29:40
  Here's one right here.
• 29:41
  It says, I don't think David would have done it without being
• 29:44
  made to, he was against suicide.
• 29:48
  See, that's a relative point.
• 29:50
  So that is a legitimate thing that I would say that's a puzzle piece.
• 29:54
  Let's put that out there because that resonates.
• 29:57
  Okay.
• 29:57
  That's a data point.
• 29:59
  So we say, how does that make sense?
• 30:00
  It is a hundred percent true in my experience and in the data is that.
• 30:07
  Somebody could have an absolute moral ethical personality belief about suicide,
• 30:15
  and it could not fit their beliefs, their worldview, how they are nothing.
• 30:20
  It's not part of their personality.
• 30:22
  It's nothing that they would do, would consider, and that can be absolutely true.
• 30:29
  So then how does it make sense if a person like that, all of a sudden we
• 30:33
  have a situation where there's a suicide?
• 30:35
  So then I'm gonna say, all right, what might have happened?
• 30:39
  Because the only way that makes sense is brain damage.
• 30:42
  Something happened that damaged someone's brain.
• 30:44
  So somebody that otherwise doesn't have the personality, they would
• 30:48
  never otherwise do that because they don't even believe in it.
• 30:51
  Sometimes people are very, positioned against it.
• 30:55
  So how does it make sense if anyone like that would, that is a valid data point.
• 31:00
  So then for me, of all the stuff that I know, I would say, oh, then I'm
• 31:03
  gonna look for somebody that it's not part of their personality at all.
• 31:08
  Then let's look at an accident.
• 31:10
  Let's look at substance induced.
• 31:14
  Let's look at did they live in a house that has black mold?
• 31:18
  Because I will tell you that it took a while for a lot of professionals to figure
• 31:24
  that one out, but I happened to work with one mold expert down at the university
• 31:28
  a Tucson U of A's medical School.
• 31:31
  I, she's a mold expert.
• 31:33
  She's a board certified psychiatrist.
• 31:35
  Now, why has a psychiatrist become a mold expert?
• 31:39
  Because when she was working as a psychiatrist, there was a certain number
• 31:43
  of her patients that never got better.
• 31:45
  And it bugged her and it kept her up at night.
• 31:48
  Wow.
• 31:48
  And she was like, wait a minute.
• 31:50
  They have this going on and this always makes them better and they
• 31:53
  should respond to this treatment.
• 31:54
  And they didn't.
• 31:55
  And they kept getting worse.
• 31:56
  And they were very depressed.
• 31:57
  They were suicidal.
• 31:59
  They couldn't take a shower, they couldn't work.
• 32:01
  And she's like, all of these things that I usually do for deep depression,
• 32:06
  any of that is not doing anything.
• 32:08
  So what am I missing?
• 32:09
  It's a long story of how she figured that out, but that's what it was black mold.
• 32:15
  Oh.
• 32:17
  And that's the theme now.
• 32:18
  When you see all these zombie movies, it's usually they're mold
• 32:21
  induced m turns into zombies.
• 32:24
  I'm just,
• 32:25
  we have lots of information about that.
• 32:27
  And I did a deep dive on being, because my daughter, when she was at U of A she was
• 32:33
  in her dorm and she had mold in her dorm.
• 32:37
  And the way I. Learned it is.
• 32:39
  She has, she had four roommates, like her sophomore year, she's in a, student
• 32:43
  apartment with four other girls.
• 32:45
  And one of them called me and said Ms. Picarillo I, I hope this is
• 32:49
  appropriate for me to call you, but we're worried about your daughter.
• 32:52
  She is, she's been asleep for almost two weeks and hasn't gone to school.
• 32:58
  And she gets up every now and then and goes to the bathroom and gets water,
• 33:01
  but she hasn't really eaten anything.
• 33:03
  And she, I was like, wait, what?
• 33:05
  Holy
• 33:05
  moly.
• 33:05
  Wait that again?
• 33:06
  She's been asleep for two weeks and has missed school.
• 33:09
  Now that doesn't make sense.
• 33:11
  Based on her personality.
• 33:13
  Yeah, because she's little Miss 4.0, she's involved in every kind of thing.
• 33:17
  Yeah.
• 33:17
  She's does way too much and is a over doer.
• 33:20
  So I'm like, she's near death.
• 33:23
  If she has slept and missed school, she doesn't miss school.
• 33:27
  So I got in the car and drove down there an hour and a half and.
• 33:31
  I was like what is going on?
• 33:32
  And I had one meeting or a couple meetings about mold with this other doctor.
• 33:37
  And so I just went, is it that I hooked it up and sure enough, through
• 33:42
  all the stuff that she knows to do, she had me do, I did it all.
• 33:45
  She had black mold in that apartment.
• 33:47
  Whoa.
• 33:47
  And that's what it was.
• 33:48
  So I have personal reference of that.
• 33:50
  So now I caught it early.
• 33:53
  So we remediated it and we got all the mold out of her brain, which
• 33:57
  anybody that's been molded let me know.
• 33:59
  I'll tell you exactly how to reverse all the damage.
• 34:02
  But you have to detox and pull the mold out of your system.
• 34:06
  And I have her brain scans, 'cause you know me, I'm her mom, so
• 34:10
  I'm gonna go get all the scans.
• 34:12
  I have a little file under her name with, there's a mold scan, we have
• 34:18
  the scans, we have all the stuff.
• 34:20
  So I, when I can, I like to do some of that stuff just 'cause I like to learn.
• 34:24
  I have a scan.
• 34:26
  Of mold in her brain, which that's so hard to look at.
• 34:31
  But now if that was left unattended, then she would've slowly declined.
• 34:36
  It would've taken years.
• 34:38
  It would've probably taken 15 to 20 years for her to become disabled.
• 34:43
  But that's what happens with mold.
• 34:44
  All of a sudden, they're diagnosed with a mental illness.
• 34:48
  They're sent to a psychiatrist.
• 34:50
  They've had mental health issues now for 15 years, and it's just
• 34:55
  looked at as mental health.
• 34:57
  So they're not really gonna be taken seriously by a regular doctor.
• 35:02
  They're misdiagnosed for 20 years and it's mold.
• 35:06
  Wow.
• 35:06
  And then if they actually go to a hotel or go on vacation and are around mold
• 35:13
  again, sometimes they are suicidal.
• 35:15
  And then we'll get a phone call on the mental health side that you know.
• 35:20
  We, we have a situation and we have somebody that's, suicidal in a hotel
• 35:24
  room or they're, threatening to this or that out in the middle of
• 35:28
  public and and then on my side, what I try to do is I try to help figure
• 35:33
  out what's going on real quick.
• 35:36
  And if I know that somebody already has a predisposition to mold, and then
• 35:41
  I've actually had a couple of those things happen where I had one student
• 35:47
  that lived in a frat house with mold and they went on a trip with their
• 35:50
  family to Italy and they stayed in some place where there was like, a thousand
• 35:55
  year old building or something and everything over there is old and moldy.
• 36:01
  And so they had gone, exploring underneath stuff.
• 36:05
  When you go under the caves and you see all that kind of stuff.
• 36:08
  And all of a sudden they were suicidal and their family called me and we had
• 36:13
  to try to figure out what was going on.
• 36:14
  So mold, who would've thought that would happen?
• 36:17
  That mold can make you suicidal.
• 36:19
  Would you ever figure that out and connect the dog?
• 36:21
  The
• 36:22
  guy I did shows with him for a while and he talked about this.
• 36:25
  He says
• 36:26
  it's
• 36:26
  totally real.
• 36:27
  Mold stuff goes all the way back to ancient times.
• 36:31
  And monks and all that kind of stuff would come in and cleanse people from mold.
• 36:36
  Not like a exorcism, but they come and clean the mold 'cause the,
• 36:39
  Mold had demonic.
• 36:41
  Figures that would attach to people.
• 36:43
  I was like, you gotta be kidding me.
• 36:45
  That kind of makes sense to me because what it does is it affects
• 36:49
  this one part of the brain the most.
• 36:51
  It deteriorates that one part of the brain.
• 36:54
  And that part of the brain is where when you have damage to that sar,
• 36:58
  that part of the brain, you have a lot of spiritual or psychic kind of
• 37:03
  hallucinations, which isn't that weird.
• 37:05
  There's just this one part of the brain that if it gets damaged,
• 37:09
  then your hallucinations and your delusions are of the spiritual kind.
• 37:14
  And it's okay, I think there's two kinds of things that can be happening.
• 37:19
  There can be real demonic, there can be real spiritual things.
• 37:22
  I think that's true.
• 37:23
  And I think you can have brain damage.
• 37:26
  You can have one or the other.
• 37:27
  What if you have both?
• 37:29
  And one thing that I do believe is true, and I believe there's a decent
• 37:34
  amount of science about it, is that when you are altered, when your
• 37:38
  brain, your physiology is altered.
• 37:41
  So if you're drunk, if you're high as a kite or if you have a head injury and
• 37:47
  you have some kind of damage, then you are more vulnerable to entities and bad
• 37:54
  energy coming right into your field.
• 37:57
  I do know that is a thing.
• 37:59
  And so I think that to the extent that you're incapacitated and you're
• 38:04
  injured or ill, I think you can't fight off demons and entities.
• 38:09
  So I think that's that kind of makes sense to me.
• 38:13
  And it's like at some point, what came first, the intrusion from
• 38:18
  the outside or the brain energy or what, but I think it's all of it.
• 38:23
  You have to piece all those little things apart to remediate
• 38:27
  the whole thing properly.
• 38:29
  You have to deal with all the little pieces of it, not
• 38:32
  just one side or the other.
• 38:34
  I would say, yeah, I would say it was like brain injury makes
• 38:37
  you extremely susceptible.
• 38:39
  PTSD some kind of trauma in your life.
• 38:42
  So all those things would make you crazily susceptible to mold, which
• 38:47
  is basically like my wife Tracy said in the chat, it's totally real.
• 38:50
  It's a principality that uses mold as a means to take over.
• 38:54
  But that would work based on the science that as I've learned it from lots of
• 38:59
  medical doctors working with me on mold and me working with people who
• 39:05
  go all the way through from, they're barely functioning to, they're up and
• 39:09
  running again, and I've done all the therapy and the deep stuff with 'em.
• 39:13
  That's a hundred percent true.
• 39:15
  Wow.
• 39:17
  This just went in a whole nother direction.
• 39:19
  This is amazing.
• 39:20
  It's not what, that's why have conversations like this because
• 39:23
  you can bring, you can dig out some stuff that, makes, it, makes
• 39:26
  you would've thought, would've.
• 39:27
  Now people want, some people in the chat are asking about your
• 39:30
  how to get rid of the mold.
• 39:31
  You and you have a okay technique.
• 39:34
  Yeah.
• 39:35
  Maybe I'll do a little mold one-on-one thing, but like the short answer of it.
• 39:39
  There is a website called surviving mold.com.
• 39:44
  Okay,
• 39:44
  the two big icons of that whole science, one of them is Dr. Richie,
• 39:50
  and you're gonna see his information on that website, surviving mold.com.
• 39:55
  It has all the information of everything you'd ever wanna know about mold on there.
• 39:59
  There's a lot of if you go on resources, you'll see how to find a doctor there.
• 40:04
  It's incredibly hard to find a doctor that knows anything about mold.
• 40:09
  That's just the truth.
• 40:11
  If somebody's really sick from mold, then just email me through my website.
• 40:15
  I'm sure there'll be a link somewhere where, and I'll try to hook you up
• 40:19
  because sometimes I have to help people find somebody in their area.
• 40:23
  That's it right there.
• 40:24
  Okay.
• 40:25
  That's gonna give you everything that I know.
• 40:27
  Is on there somewhere.
• 40:29
  Wow.
• 40:29
  You can spend hours and hours on this website of all the protocols.
• 40:33
  Dr. Ackerley, who's the one that taught me, and she's the one that
• 40:37
  treated and saved my daughter.
• 40:39
  Oh, wow.
• 40:39
  She's on there.
• 40:41
  There's a Dr. Ackerley iss, a pretty famous mold expert.
• 40:45
  And Dr. Shoemakers is the other one.
• 40:48
  So he's a, he is the guy if you wanna know about mold, he's the guy.
• 40:53
  He has done the most work.
• 40:55
  He's
• 40:55
  that guy looks like a monk.
• 40:58
  He's a nerdy brainiac.
• 41:00
  Yeah.
• 41:00
  He's a real good scientist
• 41:02
  kind of guy you want,
• 41:04
  and he is the mold guy.
• 41:06
  Wow.
• 41:06
  And so he's the resource.
• 41:08
  And then, whenever I have someone and I need the medical collaboration.
• 41:13
  If I can't, it's hard to get to Dr. Ackerley 'cause she's so
• 41:16
  busy, it's hard to get to him.
• 41:17
  But we have some of the Amen Doctors that are now up to speed on mold.
• 41:23
  And some of that is from my being obnoxious about it.
• 41:27
  This is, I'm, I've been in obnoxious about mold for almost 18 years.
• 41:31
  So some of this is from my pushing, but there's a few on the Amen
• 41:35
  team that I will send people to.
• 41:37
  But because you can't just go to anybody and get help when you have mold sickness.
• 41:42
  So there's a test that you do on there, it's called the Erlin, I-R-L-E-N.
• 41:47
  And there's a link on that page where you do an LEN test and it's a little thing
• 41:52
  that he has it free on there you can do this assessment and it's basically, you
• 41:57
  look at this screen and based on your score, it can tell you whether you are.
• 42:04
  Already suffering from mold poisoning.
• 42:08
  It's poisoning.
• 42:08
  It's mold poisoning is what it is.
• 42:10
  It's a tox
• 42:11
  online.
• 42:11
  That's crazy.
• 42:12
  That's good.
• 42:13
  And it it affects your vision.
• 42:15
  Just
• 42:15
  make sure all,
• 42:16
  yeah.
• 42:16
  It affects your vision.
• 42:17
  So there's this little quick cheap screening that you have people do, and
• 42:21
  I have people do it in my office where I just screen your eyes real quick and
• 42:26
  it just at least rules it in or rules it out of do I need to do a deeper
• 42:30
  dive on mold or are we able to move on?
• 42:33
  Because it, it affects your vision.
• 42:35
  You can't see, 'cause it, it digs into the, your neo, your visual cortex
• 42:40
  back here in neuro occipital lobe.
• 42:42
  And the thing about to answer a question, I'm sorry, I got it on a tangent, is
• 42:47
  No, I
• 42:47
  love it.
• 42:47
  What do you do and how do you get mold outta your body?
• 42:50
  Okay.
• 42:51
  The short answer is.
• 42:53
  There's a mold detox and Dr. Ackerley calls it a mold shake, which is so gross.
• 42:59
  There's not mold in it.
• 43:01
  Yeah.
• 43:01
  But it's a little drink that has four ingredients and you drink it
• 43:06
  and it literally pulls the mold molecules out of your system.
• 43:11
  Jesus.
• 43:11
  And you have to do it carefully.
• 43:13
  And so I hate to just tell people how to do it on here because
• 43:17
  there's a little bit of, okay.
• 43:19
  Are, what medications are you on?
• 43:21
  What, is there any other health issues that you have going on?
• 43:24
  Just to do it, right?
• 43:27
  I don't wanna just give people the thing on the internet and
• 43:30
  have 'em go do it, because that might not be the best outcome.
• 43:34
  You have to do a little bit of customizing for people.
• 43:37
  But basically it's these four things and they all work together and they just grab
• 43:42
  every little piece of it and pull it out.
• 43:45
  So it's a detox, but it's actually getting poison out.
• 43:49
  And for my daughter she responded really quickly, so she just felt like
• 43:54
  a whole different person and she felt a hundred percent well in two weeks.
• 43:59
  That's
• 43:59
  great.
• 43:59
  And then Dr. Ackerley told us, all right, because you did blood, we did blood work.
• 44:04
  There's a little bit more to it than just drink this stuff.
• 44:07
  Yeah.
• 44:07
  You wanna do it well, so you wanna go to somebody that knows
• 44:10
  how to walk you through it.
• 44:11
  But it is pretty simple to do.
• 44:14
  So if you have mold sickness, find somebody to show you how to
• 44:18
  do it because it's reversible.
• 44:20
  It's completely reversible.
• 44:22
  So I can, I have before and afters for sure of my own little child, but I
• 44:27
  have it for several of my clients too.
• 44:29
  So what we do is we stay with it until it's all gone.
• 44:33
  We keep doing blood work and we do another scan, and people get mad at me because
• 44:38
  they feel better in three weeks, and Dr.
• 44:41
  Ackerley is telling me, Nope, we're not done yet.
• 44:45
  And I have to say we're not done yet.
• 44:47
  Dr. Ackerley says we're not done until we have this, and this, because
• 44:52
  it's still just gonna drag on.
• 44:53
  So she's thorough.
• 44:55
  And again, I would say the honest truth is that 50% of people
• 45:00
  don't follow through all the way.
• 45:02
  That's just real.
• 45:03
  So it is what it is.
• 45:05
  And maybe 40 it's maybe about 40% that'll do everything I say all the way.
• 45:10
  And then they're just all the way back to they never were exposed to mold.
• 45:14
  But some people only do it halfway, so they're better.
• 45:17
  But they still have kind of health issues that drag around
• 45:21
  and look like other things.
• 45:23
  And then, and
• 45:23
  the environment.
• 45:24
  How important is the environment?
• 45:25
  You can detox yourself, but if your environment is still moving.
• 45:29
  So this is the deep science answer to that is there's two genetic
• 45:33
  markers that you can easily find out by just taking a blood test.
• 45:37
  And it's cheap now.
• 45:38
  It used to be expensive, so cheap now.
• 45:41
  So you go to any LabCorp and you get these two genetic tests.
• 45:45
  So you go and see if you have the genetic mutation for M-T-H-F-R and if
• 45:51
  you have that little genetic mutation, which one out of four people has?
• 45:55
  My daughter has it.
• 45:57
  I have it.
• 45:58
  The only reason I know I have it is 'cause when she.
• 46:01
  Got her blood work back.
• 46:02
  Dr. Ackley said It's genetic, so now if your daughter has it, let's just
• 46:07
  do the blood work on the whole family and see who else in the family has it.
• 46:11
  So that was a little extra bonus that we all benefited from
• 46:14
  her being molded at college.
• 46:16
  And so I, I didn't know and I was like, what, 40 something years old?
• 46:20
  I didn't know I had this genetic mutation till my daughter got molded
• 46:24
  and now I know I have the M-T-H-F-R.
• 46:26
  So what that means is that I and her are gonna get way sicker around,
• 46:31
  even if it's, the black mold is poisonous to everyone, it's poison.
• 46:36
  So you're always gonna get sick around black mold, but there's 36 other molds
• 46:41
  that will only make somebody really sick if they have the M-T-H-F-R gene.
• 46:46
  So then how do you deal with that?
• 46:48
  You accommodate for that mutation.
• 46:51
  So then I literally have it sitting right here, probably.
• 46:54
  Where's mine?
• 46:55
  There's a methylated here's my little thing.
• 46:57
  I take it every day.
• 46:59
  So it's that five MTHF.
• 47:02
  And this is a, what this does is it mitigates that genetic mutation so that
• 47:08
  I don't have the experience of having the genetic mutation I course corrected.
• 47:13
  And I don't have that consequence anymore because I did something about it.
• 47:17
  So I can take this and it corrects that little thing so that I could go
• 47:22
  to Italy and not get deathly sick.
• 47:24
  That's helpful.
• 47:25
  Yeah, that's
• 47:25
  helpful, I think.
• 47:27
  And so there's lots of little pieces to the mold thing, and that's why you have
• 47:31
  to go to somebody that has the training.
• 47:34
  It's not complicated, it's not expensive.
• 47:37
  You just have to find someone with the training, the stuff that you take is cheap
• 47:43
  and the blood work is pretty inexpensive.
• 47:45
  But you need to know if you have these two mutations because then
• 47:48
  there's something else you do.
• 47:49
  If you don't have it, then you don't.
• 47:51
  But that's why my daughter was really sick and her other three roommates weren't.
• 47:56
  Wow.
• 47:56
  Because how did that work?
• 47:58
  She has these two
• 47:59
  interesting because when I worked in a casino as a security manager in
• 48:02
  Tahoe, I'm not gonna say the place, I don't wanna get him in trouble,
• 48:05
  but, or get myself in trouble.
• 48:07
  But yeah.
• 48:08
  They were cleaning mold out of one of the and we didn't know.
• 48:11
  We didn't know at the time, so nobody knows cleaning and we're doing a lot
• 48:14
  of cleaning and this bar, down in the where the water used to go, and
• 48:18
  we're cleaning all that and we shut the bar down for a little while,
• 48:21
  but we're just cleaning it out.
• 48:22
  And we're like, okay.
• 48:24
  We're one of, one of my officers was security officers was hanging
• 48:27
  out, in front of this place.
• 48:29
  And a gentleman came by and says, do you know if there's black mold in this area?
• 48:35
  And Wow.
• 48:36
  He was like, no we don't have any black mold problems.
• 48:39
  He says, 'cause my child, I have a child that's very
• 48:41
  susceptible, black mold they have.
• 48:43
  And we were just walking through this area and he became
• 48:45
  extremely ill just by proximity
• 48:50
  because they have this genetic mutation that probably have
• 48:53
  the two, like my daughter.
• 48:54
  So I'm like that too.
• 48:56
  I'm a canary for mold.
• 48:58
  Wow.
• 48:58
  So I went to a mental health conference that I was speaking
• 49:02
  at in, in Portland, Oregon.
• 49:04
  So in Portland it rains, it's, rainy and moldy.
• 49:07
  And it was just a regular like Hilton hotel, wherever
• 49:09
  we were having the conference.
• 49:11
  And I was speaking on Saturday and I got there Friday and Friday night.
• 49:17
  I was so tired I couldn't stay awake.
• 49:19
  And I had the worst headache in the world.
• 49:22
  And it's like a regular hotel.
• 49:23
  It's clean.
• 49:24
  And so I'm not making the connection.
• 49:27
  But then by, by the middle of the night, I had all of the mold sickness
• 49:32
  symptoms and I was like, oh, it's that.
• 49:35
  And then I was like shoot, what am I gonna do?
• 49:37
  Because I'm here, I'm supposed to speak tomorrow afternoon, but I'm
• 49:41
  gonna get progressively worse if I don't get the heck out of this hotel.
• 49:45
  Because it was there's mold in that hotel and didn't make
• 49:50
  three out of four people sick.
• 49:52
  But it was gonna make me sick.
• 49:53
  So that is an actual real thing for me.
• 49:57
  I get it takes a lot longer for my symptoms.
• 50:00
  I get real, real tired.
• 50:01
  Almost like you gave me a sleeping pill.
• 50:04
  That's how my body reacts.
• 50:05
  And then I'll eventually get a headache, but I'll just be like knocked out.
• 50:09
  My daughter, her eyes swell up and she gets crust around her eyes.
• 50:14
  Ugh.
• 50:14
  So she's a better mold canary than me.
• 50:18
  And so she gets annoyed, but she also like sometimes doesn't mind, it's based
• 50:23
  on the day you ask, but sometimes when somebody suspects they have mold, I'll say
• 50:28
  Carmen, would you mind going over to this person's house and just sit there for a
• 50:32
  little bit and see if your eye, she, oh my God, she had actually done it before.
• 50:36
  She's especially for a family member because I had a family
• 50:39
  member that was suicidal.
• 50:41
  Couldn't go to work.
• 50:43
  Hadn't taken a shower.
• 50:45
  They couldn't figure out what was going on.
• 50:47
  There was no like, what's happening, but they were just like disappearing,
• 50:51
  dysfunctional, and, scary when that happens, you're like, what's going on?
• 50:56
  And you're like, what are you not telling me?
• 50:57
  Like, how come you all of a sudden just can't function?
• 51:00
  So it was a family member.
• 51:02
  So I say, Carmen, would you mind?
• 51:03
  And so she went over and just sat there and it was about 45 minutes to an hour,
• 51:09
  and her eyes were just swollen and crusty.
• 51:12
  And when I was like, she called me up, she goes, mom, look at my eyes.
• 51:16
  And she puts her little iPhone.
• 51:17
  I was like, I can't believe that.
• 51:20
  And I'm like, okay, obviously get out of there.
• 51:23
  And the reason that I don't feel like I'm putting my daughter in danger is because
• 51:27
  I know that if it gets in there, you just detox it out and then you're fine.
• 51:32
  Or I wouldn't do that, obviously.
• 51:33
  Yeah.
• 51:34
  But you then you,
• 51:35
  This is part of your expertise.
• 51:37
  Yeah.
• 51:37
  And the, supplements and so forth.
• 51:40
  That's how I learned, wow.
• 51:41
  I yeah it all, that,
• 51:42
  That can do so many amazing things.
• 51:44
  People with ptsd, TSD supplementation it's a brain problem.
• 51:48
  So I know probably sometimes you're like watching me and it's oh, Mike,
• 51:52
  you didn't take your supplements today.
• 51:53
  Did you
• 51:54
  remember I did that to you one time because you kept forgetting the name
• 51:56
  of something and it was like, you were like, I can't remember the name.
• 51:59
  What is the name?
• 52:00
  And then I know sometimes people in the chat will help you.
• 52:02
  You're, and it's something simple, but you couldn't think of the name.
• 52:05
  That's your temporal loaves.
• 52:07
  So that's this part right here.
• 52:09
  Yeah.
• 52:09
  So that's just this part of your brain was inefficient.
• 52:13
  Like obviously it works, but sometimes it just.
• 52:16
  Bails on you.
• 52:17
  And you can't think of a word that's your temporal lobe.
• 52:19
  That's where word retrieval is.
• 52:21
  So then I know that you need extra support right there.
• 52:25
  And then you can be like me with the mold, you mitigate it.
• 52:27
  If you have a vulnerability somewhere, what is it?
• 52:30
  And it's like, how do you mitigate it?
• 52:32
  And that
• 52:32
  when I get forgetful, it's because I haven't taken my supplementation.
• 52:36
  Yep.
• 52:36
  That's what,
• 52:36
  or I need to take, that's it's, I need to double dose it.
• 52:38
  So that's what I do.
• 52:39
  Yeah.
• 52:39
  And I'm better, occasionally, like I know, yeah, it get sick or Oh
• 52:43
  I'm getting, I'm mold toxicity.
• 52:45
  So you just supplement.
• 52:47
  You supplement better.
• 52:48
  You
• 52:48
  just, but if you know what to look for, then you can say, oh,
• 52:51
  okay I'm having symptoms there.
• 52:53
  Let me go back and support that area, and then I'm good to go again.
• 52:56
  And then at least, you have a working system and you're
• 52:59
  not just stuck with something.
• 53:00
  Yeah.
• 53:00
  So the thing is, when you were doing Navy SEAL stuff, hand-to-hand combat,
• 53:06
  doing all that stuff, you were actually sparring with people, right?
• 53:10
  Oh
• 53:10
  yeah.
• 53:10
  And so you're gonna have a lot of just like post-concussive, like maybe you
• 53:15
  didn't get knocked out, but you just took a lot of blows to right here.
• 53:19
  Oh
• 53:19
  yeah.
• 53:20
  So anytime you are in martial arts, you're obviously in boxing or you're
• 53:24
  in any kind of stuff like that.
• 53:27
  And I always think of sometimes like guys more I think this is a gender
• 53:31
  bias that kind of makes sense is yeah.
• 53:33
  Guys get in fights a lot more.
• 53:36
  So guys like during their high school years or college years, or they get drunk
• 53:40
  and then they get in a bar fight, right?
• 53:42
  So a lot of times, like when I have people that will come to me for just learning
• 53:46
  issues, or they're like frustrated because school is hard and they can't, remember
• 53:51
  what the professor said and write notes.
• 53:53
  And I always go Ooh, temporal lobe.
• 53:56
  And then I do a questionnaire on, did you ever play lacrosse?
• 53:59
  Did you ever play soccer?
• 54:00
  Did you ever play football?
• 54:02
  What is your history of, that kind?
• 54:04
  And I just do my little due diligence and then I go, all right, if I've
• 54:07
  got a lot of, and this is sometimes when you fall and just anybody
• 54:11
  it hits your head is right here.
• 54:13
  So for you and your actual life history, of course you're gonna
• 54:17
  have temporal lobe issues.
• 54:19
  And then you can just make up for that.
• 54:22
  And mitigate it, and then you're good to go.
• 54:24
  And so that's so amazing.
• 54:26
  A lot of the stuff that I learned really from Dr. Am Amen.
• 54:30
  Is just insane.
• 54:31
  I talk to him frequently and I, he probably gets tired of
• 54:34
  me telling him, thank you.
• 54:36
  But really a lot of his stuff is so helpful that I'm like, Ooh, once
• 54:40
  again, where'd I learn that Dr. A Amen's research, he learned it.
• 54:44
  And some of the stuff that he learned was by accident.
• 54:46
  He's studying this and then he accidentally finds this other
• 54:49
  thing and then he is oh, I wasn't looking for that, but I found out
• 54:53
  that this is bad for the brain.
• 54:55
  And that's how Dr. Ackerley found mold.
• 54:58
  She was like, just like, how come these people aren't getting better?
• 55:02
  And then who would've thought it went there?
• 55:04
  So for Dr. A Amen, when he started trying to figure out why the football
• 55:08
  players were committing suicide
• 55:10
  Yep.
• 55:11
  And he was like I would guess football's bad for your brain.
• 55:14
  Yeah, but why would it.
• 55:17
  Cause suicide.
• 55:19
  And I don't know if it does.
• 55:20
  But let's just look and see what we find.
• 55:22
  And so obviously they found some stuff.
• 55:25
  Oh yeah.
• 55:26
  But what they also then did is Dr. Amon was like I wonder if we can fix that.
• 55:32
  Look at all the damage.
• 55:33
  I wonder if we can fix that.
• 55:35
  Most everything that I do that is correcting brain imbalances,
• 55:40
  came from the football study.
• 55:42
  Like that thing is worth its weight in gold.
• 55:45
  Wow.
• 55:45
  That's so like, how did I learn about your temporal lobe?
• 55:48
  I learned that from the football study.
• 55:50
  Yep.
• 55:51
  And most of the stuff that we know and that Dr.
• 55:53
  Amon does in all of his clinics came from the football study.
• 55:56
  It was like, really, we learned a ton of stuff.
• 55:59
  And that supplement you're taking is the exact research dose.
• 56:05
  That came from the football player.
• 56:06
  So what you're taking Wow.
• 56:08
  Is the research.
• 56:10
  It's the exact same formula that was used in the research on
• 56:14
  rehab and the football brains.
• 56:15
  That is the NFL football player brain rehab.
• 56:20
  It's exactly what they took.
• 56:22
  Same dose, all of it.
• 56:24
  Yeah.
• 56:25
  And I remember guys who were committing suicide when I was in
• 56:29
  San Diego they had this one guy, I can't think of his name right now.
• 56:33
  Maybe they took more supplements.
• 56:34
  But he basically was a star and he started having crazy, he started having
• 56:39
  craziness and they couldn't figure it out.
• 56:41
  And eventually he committed suicide.
• 56:43
  Gosh.
• 56:44
  And so they started doing the research like you're talking about, and they found
• 56:47
  out that, guys that get hit in the head.
• 56:50
  And he was one of those guys that was like just hammering people really.
• 56:54
  Super, super amazing guy Samoa guy.
• 56:58
  And he would, oh
• 56:59
  yeah, they're tough.
• 57:00
  Yep, they're tough.
• 57:01
  But anybody that gets their head hit, enough times it's gonna,
• 57:03
  it's gonna cause some problems.
• 57:05
  That's what we found out.
• 57:05
  The football association did not want to expose this 'cause that
• 57:10
  was gonna make them responsible for all these guys, of course.
• 57:14
  But, those studies Dr. Am Amman did that made a difference.
• 57:17
  Yeah.
• 57:17
  And now they are, helping guys because all it is good supplement.
• 57:22
  If we have the data we can prove in court, we have all the scans,
• 57:26
  we have all the information.
• 57:28
  And so I have a slide, I was gonna do a PowerPoint, but I have a one of the
• 57:32
  NFL slides just to give people a sense of, if you have a lot of problems and we
• 57:37
  can do a history and find out that you have a lot of head injuries, then we.
• 57:44
  We can very systematically reverse the damage.
• 57:48
  But the thing about the football study is in 2005 that that other doctor,
• 57:53
  Dr. Bennett Alah, he he the family of one of the Pittsburgh Steelers
• 57:59
  who committed suicide, and that's the movie that will Smith starred in.
• 58:05
  He he, his family said, we wanna, we think football is why he killed himself.
• 58:10
  And they asked that doctor to do an autopsy on his brain.
• 58:14
  And that's the guy that found CTE.
• 58:17
  So he found CTE in an autopsy, but the person has to be deceased.
• 58:24
  For him to do the procedure that he does to find CTE, you can
• 58:29
  only diagnose CTE postmortem.
• 58:33
  That's inconvenient, right?
• 58:35
  That's not.
• 58:36
  Great.
• 58:37
  That maybe helps us know that it can cause death, but how do we help
• 58:43
  players before they're passed away?
• 58:45
  That's, that'd be a, it's different.
• 58:47
  So then that one was done in 2005, and then what happened with the Amon Clinics
• 58:53
  is their a LA pla, retired profe, the NFL Retired Players Association in la.
• 59:02
  So that's Dr. Amy lives in Southern California.
• 59:05
  A lot of his friends are there.
• 59:06
  So he that player's association.
• 59:09
  They just personally kept getting really upset that their peers were all of a
• 59:15
  sudden committing suicide or they were going off the rails and being so violent
• 59:21
  and so just awful that their family didn't wanna talk to 'em, they didn't
• 59:25
  want, and they're like, we've known this person all of our life, and all of
• 59:28
  a sudden they're an asshole and no one wants to be around them, and they're just
• 59:32
  jerks and they're violent and they're mean, and they're punching holes in the
• 59:36
  wall and they're drinking and they're, doing road rage and is it football?
• 59:41
  Junior sale?
• 59:42
  Oh my gosh.
• 59:43
  Yeah.
• 59:43
  Yeah.
• 59:44
  Look at this beautiful man, right?
• 59:46
  Yeah.
• 59:46
  He was my hero.
• 59:47
  And that was tragic.
• 59:49
  Yes.
• 59:49
  And then when I found out why, I was like.
• 59:51
  It just didn't make sense.
• 59:52
  He was just a such guy.
• 59:53
  That's yeah.
• 59:54
  So this is what happened with the players is they were like, I've known this guy
• 59:57
  since college, or I've known this guy since high school, and this is who he is.
• 1:00:01
  He's the nicest guy.
• 1:00:03
  He is very sweet.
• 1:00:04
  He, help anybody.
• 1:00:05
  Now he's all of a sudden just violent and mean, and he doesn't like anybody.
• 1:00:10
  And he, he hates people.
• 1:00:12
  And it's that was never his personality, right?
• 1:00:14
  And they're, getting divorced.
• 1:00:16
  They're, and they're like, what happened?
• 1:00:18
  All of a sudden they shifted and then a lot of them committed
• 1:00:21
  suicide, and so they're upset.
• 1:00:24
  They're like, this is my friend.
• 1:00:26
  Something is happening and we wanna know if it's football.
• 1:00:30
  And yeah.
• 1:00:31
  The they went to the NFL and the NFL said, we will look into that.
• 1:00:35
  And so they said, they looked into it, and I have a ton of information
• 1:00:40
  about how they looked into it, and I don't know how you wanna go into that.
• 1:00:43
  But basically
• 1:00:44
  now let's go into your slide presentation now.
• 1:00:47
  I'll show you some found dead with a gunshot wound.
• 1:00:50
  So Junior say, oh, I was like, that's crazy.
• 1:00:52
  Yeah.
• 1:00:53
  And so the players were getting sick of it.
• 1:00:55
  They're like, our friends are dying and we just wanna know.
• 1:00:57
  So nobody at the NFL level would give him the time of day.
• 1:01:01
  So they on their own, they called Dr. A. Amen.
• 1:01:03
  And some of 'em knew, like people that knew him.
• 1:01:05
  And so he said, why don't we partner?
• 1:01:08
  Why don't the players association put up some of the funding?
• 1:01:12
  And I'll put up.
• 1:01:14
  Some of the funding.
• 1:01:14
  So Dr. Am was like, I'll let you use my clinic, my scanners, like my doctors,
• 1:01:19
  my staff, we'll do our part of that then, help get players into the study.
• 1:01:24
  And so then they helped get the word out and said, Hey, we need
• 1:01:28
  people to participate in the study.
• 1:01:29
  And so they had like former players, active players, like
• 1:01:34
  all across, they had some really old like Frank Gifford era guys.
• 1:01:39
  They had some young people.
• 1:01:41
  And so then they just did the stu the study, is there a Hertz
• 1:01:45
  response with the black mold?
• 1:01:47
  Yes.
• 1:01:48
  So that's why when you do the mold detox, is that what I'm assuming
• 1:01:54
  that's what you're asking me about.
• 1:01:55
  'cause detox, yes, you will get a herz effect.
• 1:01:57
  That's why I have to customize it.
• 1:02:00
  Whether I do it with you and customize it, or you have some things
• 1:02:03
  going on that I have to send you to a doctor, and then they do some
• 1:02:06
  other stuff and we customize it.
• 1:02:07
  But yes, that's why I didn't wanna just let everybody know what the formula
• 1:02:11
  is, because if you just do that and you don't do the other things, then you
• 1:02:15
  can get really sick from the Hertz and that's where you get sick from the detox.
• 1:02:21
  So that's a great question.
• 1:02:23
  I'm glad you asked that.
• 1:02:24
  Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  But for the football players they, they did, when you do any kind of science,
• 1:02:28
  you say, what do we think the answer is?
• 1:02:30
  You do your hypothesis and then you do the study and it either
• 1:02:33
  proves it or disproves it.
• 1:02:34
  I think they all thought football's bad, but what they found was like wow.
• 1:02:40
  And very specific.
• 1:02:42
  And then after that, Dr. Amon did a whole, I wonder if we can fix it.
• 1:02:47
  And then him and Dr. Meyer which is, she's a great little sharp.
• 1:02:52
  Smart little brainiac herself.
• 1:02:55
  And the two of them really headed up the rehab part of it.
• 1:02:59
  And that was 2010 to 20 12, 13 ish.
• 1:03:05
  And I met Dr. Amon right around 20 13, 20 14.
• 1:03:09
  And then, it's just been insanely helpful.
• 1:03:13
  We've all benefited from those football players being mad that
• 1:03:17
  their friends were not doing well, and some of them were suicidal.
• 1:03:19
  And so it's those players from LA that really, get the
• 1:03:25
  credit for starting all this.
• 1:03:26
  But, it makes sense of why they pushed for it.
• 1:03:29
  And then in 2016, I think the NFL finally admitted that yeah, football
• 1:03:38
  probably contributes to Brandon.
• 1:03:41
  And the same thing that I don't know if the militaries I think in some cases
• 1:03:45
  they do, but they are not admitting that, guys who have been around
• 1:03:48
  explosions and so forth, which is pretty much everybody in the military
• 1:03:52
  loud guns and blasting, obviously
• 1:03:54
  lost injuries.
• 1:03:55
  M 60 guy.
• 1:03:56
  So I was blasting away, I blowing stuff up.
• 1:03:58
  I was a demo guy, so Yeah, of course I had some stuff.
• 1:04:02
  Yeah, there was a time where I had to, after I left the ccia a
• 1:04:06
  'cause they traumatized me, so
• 1:04:08
  Yeah, then you have that kind of trauma too.
• 1:04:11
  And I got outta nature and that's what cured me, that helped me.
• 1:04:15
  And David, probably same guy type of guy, he's nature boy, I'm sure.
• 1:04:20
  Getting outta nature actually has a biological it's a biological intervention.
• 1:04:26
  It actually does change the molecules in your nervous system.
• 1:04:30
  And we, I think we all have we all say, oh, go get grounded.
• 1:04:34
  Grounding, like we say, are you grounded?
• 1:04:36
  Like you?
• 1:04:37
  But grounding is actually a very specific, real physiological thing.
• 1:04:43
  And you can put all the science together.
• 1:04:45
  Someone like David Wilcock could probably rattle it off.
• 1:04:48
  I have all the science in my computer of what that actually is.
• 1:04:51
  There's lots of people that do.
• 1:04:53
  But it is actually a real thing.
• 1:04:55
  And it changes your nervous system and helps it regulate.
• 1:04:59
  It changes the chemicals in your nervous system and it helps.
• 1:05:03
  And then there's other pieces too.
• 1:05:04
  So then you wanna reverse the brain damage if you have
• 1:05:07
  concussion, traumatic brain injury.
• 1:05:09
  And that could be from a hit or it could be a blast injury.
• 1:05:13
  Yeah.
• 1:05:13
  And so then you have to reverse the damage because it's like, if you just
• 1:05:17
  leave it like that time does not heal.
• 1:05:20
  A traumatic brain injury.
• 1:05:22
  That's something I want everyone to know.
• 1:05:24
  Wow.
• 1:05:24
  It doesn't just get better with time.
• 1:05:26
  That is actually not what we found in the studies.
• 1:05:29
  It stays dented in.
• 1:05:31
  You have a part of your brain that just doesn't light up anymore.
• 1:05:35
  It doesn't turn on, it doesn't get blood flow.
• 1:05:37
  So you have to fix that.
• 1:05:39
  That's an equipment issue that's if you get body damage on your car,
• 1:05:44
  it can be fixed, but you gotta take it to the shop and let 'em pump
• 1:05:48
  the dent out and then it's fine.
• 1:05:50
  But if you don't have 'em go pop it back out, then it's dented
• 1:05:54
  in for the rest of the time.
• 1:05:56
  So the thing about the brain is you can't see it.
• 1:06:00
  So the thing about the brain is it's the organ of behavior.
• 1:06:05
  That's what its job is.
• 1:06:06
  It determines your behavior and that's why mental health is called behavioral
• 1:06:12
  health on our insurance plans.
• 1:06:13
  Wow.
• 1:06:14
  It's called behavioral health, but.
• 1:06:17
  Your brain is the organ of behavior.
• 1:06:19
  So when someone has a behavior that is problematic, they have a brain-based
• 1:06:26
  issue because the brain is the thing that is responsible for behavior.
• 1:06:31
  So if we have obsessive compulsive behavior then I know that you don't
• 1:06:36
  have enough functional serotonin in your anterior cingulate area.
• 1:06:41
  Wow.
• 1:06:41
  I know that you're out.
• 1:06:43
  And so then I'm like, oh, I know what that is about.
• 1:06:47
  And
• 1:06:47
  so that's just fascinating because I know we've done shows in the past
• 1:06:49
  where in your past you've helped people with sexual addictions and so forth.
• 1:06:54
  Yeah.
• 1:06:55
  And very we would all know their names, but of course
• 1:06:57
  you're not gonna reveal that.
• 1:06:58
  But you've helped them through this same process.
• 1:07:01
  Pretty amazing.
• 1:07:01
  Yeah.
• 1:07:02
  Because it's because a lot of what Dr. Amon already knew he's been doing.
• 1:07:06
  Brain spec scans research for a long time.
• 1:07:09
  But a lot of also what we learned from the football players is it's
• 1:07:13
  if this, then, so if you have this behavior because we have so much data,
• 1:07:19
  then I can say, oh, that's this part of brain and this part of the brain.
• 1:07:23
  So I bet if we do the things to modify this, and we're gonna do mental,
• 1:07:28
  emotional, physical, spiritual, those are the four legs of the stool.
• 1:07:32
  And we're not gonna miss one, or we're not gonna get all the way where we wanna go.
• 1:07:36
  So at the physical level, what kind of nutritional supplements,
• 1:07:40
  what kind of medication, what kind of change do we need to make at
• 1:07:44
  that level, at the physical level?
• 1:07:46
  So a lot of times, supplements, nutritional supplements, amino acids get
• 1:07:51
  the job done because amino acids, targeted amino acids make neurotransmitters.
• 1:07:56
  And so if you're out of serotonin, I know I can give you two amino acids that.
• 1:08:01
  Go together and make a serotonin molecule.
• 1:08:04
  So I'm gonna have you do either five HT P or I'm gonna have you take l tryptophan.
• 1:08:09
  And that's just food as medicine, it's just an amino acid and you're
• 1:08:14
  not gonna have horrible side effects.
• 1:08:17
  'cause that doesn't work that way.
• 1:08:18
  It's just pro, it's just a, an amino acid molecule and it makes serotonin
• 1:08:23
  and then that part of your brain is gonna be fixed at the mental
• 1:08:27
  level, I mean at the physical level.
• 1:08:29
  But then on the mental side, I'm gonna say, let's look at your negative
• 1:08:33
  beliefs because as you've been walking around with no serotonin,
• 1:08:37
  just that right there starts negative beliefs, which is fascinating, wow.
• 1:08:43
  So if we deplete somebody of serotonin, they're gonna walk around and go rah, and
• 1:08:48
  they're gonna complain about everything.
• 1:08:50
  They're gonna see problems everywhere.
• 1:08:52
  They're gonna see the worst part of everything.
• 1:08:54
  They're gonna be glass half full, they're gonna be very negative.
• 1:08:58
  And no matter what positive thing is going on, they're gonna just, discount it.
• 1:09:03
  And so that is a brain thing, that's one part of the brain.
• 1:09:08
  And so then I've gotta say, okay, you've been used to being this way
• 1:09:12
  for a while, so now I've gotta real specifically target your beliefs.
• 1:09:16
  And I've gotta teach you how to thought, stop.
• 1:09:19
  'cause if you keep doing that, you'll keep depleting your serotonin.
• 1:09:22
  So if we keep fixing it over here, but you keep depleting it over here,
• 1:09:27
  then we're not gonna get anywhere.
• 1:09:28
  So we have to plug it on both sides.
• 1:09:31
  And so then it's easy though.
• 1:09:33
  It's okay, we're gonna do these four little things.
• 1:09:36
  Here's what you're gonna do.
• 1:09:38
  And in three months you're done.
• 1:09:40
  This is over.
• 1:09:42
  It is fun.
• 1:09:43
  So for me, when someone comes I tend to get the referrals for the
• 1:09:47
  most complicated cases for however that ended up starting to happen.
• 1:09:52
  But is when somebody's gone to a lot of other places and they
• 1:09:57
  just haven't gotten better.
• 1:09:58
  It's what are we missing?
• 1:10:00
  And then I try to figure it out and a lot of times it's head injuries.
• 1:10:03
  Nobody did a, and just don't have the training and it's concussions.
• 1:10:08
  It's oh, the reason that person isn't getting better is they have
• 1:10:11
  massive post-concussive syndrome.
• 1:10:13
  It's never been fixed.
• 1:10:15
  That's a lot of what I find for addictions.
• 1:10:17
  Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  People that go to rehab and they still just can't stay.
• 1:10:20
  And then it's oh, they have head injuries and then, sometimes it's other things, but
• 1:10:25
  it's something, it's just something that is out there somewhere and you just have
• 1:10:30
  to plug all the holes and, we just, we know a lot about it, the average physician
• 1:10:36
  doesn't have all of this training.
• 1:10:39
  The average therapist doesn't have all this training.
• 1:10:41
  And I'm not trying to say oh, I'm special or different, but I just accidentally I
• 1:10:46
  just accidentally got mold training 'cause my daughter had mold that doesn't have
• 1:10:50
  anything to do with me being special.
• 1:10:52
  It's just like what happened.
• 1:10:54
  Yeah.
• 1:10:54
  Yeah.
• 1:10:54
  And I accidentally got the Amen training because we had a professional football
• 1:10:59
  player come through our addiction program.
• 1:11:03
  Oh.
• 1:11:03
  He just, he had just had that scan and I happened to be on his team
• 1:11:07
  and I'm like, oh wow, this is cool.
• 1:11:09
  What's this?
• 1:11:10
  And then I had to know more about it.
• 1:11:12
  And then I had to I had to go get a scan and I had to go talk to Dr.
• 1:11:15
  Raymond and, so I was like, some of this stuff I just accidentally know, but.
• 1:11:21
  Helpful.
• 1:11:22
  So we've covered the suicide 1 0 1, we've covered trauma, PTSD and addictions.
• 1:11:27
  How about MK Ultra?
• 1:11:30
  So let me kinda flip through real quick and just show everybody what I'm
• 1:11:34
  talking about, just so it, you get it.
• 1:11:36
  Do you wanna show me how to do the share?
• 1:11:39
  Share your screen thing?
• 1:11:41
  Yeah, if you go down to the bottom, there's a little, oh, right there.
• 1:11:44
  Looks like a little box.
• 1:11:46
  You click on that, it says share screen.
• 1:11:48
  Okay.
• 1:11:49
  Click
• 1:11:49
  on that.
• 1:11:50
  So I do this, would I be able to see you while I'm
• 1:11:53
  Oh yeah.
• 1:11:53
  I'll be, you'll be in a little window on the side.
• 1:11:55
  So you hit window and then click on whatever you want to share
• 1:11:59
  and then go over and hit share.
• 1:12:01
  Okay.
• 1:12:02
  So I hit that.
• 1:12:06
  And where did you go?
• 1:12:12
  Let's see.
• 1:12:16
  Share screen and then hit window and your window for what you want to share.
• 1:12:22
  You click on that and it'll highlight, share.
• 1:12:25
  You click on that and then it'll present on my side, and then I will click it all.
• 1:12:30
  You just did it.
• 1:12:31
  Perfect.
• 1:12:32
  Good job.
• 1:12:32
  I'm
• 1:12:32
  a trainable monkey.
• 1:12:34
  No kidding.
• 1:12:34
  I, a lot of people don't get this.
• 1:12:36
  A lot of people don't get, so you're rare.
• 1:12:38
  Good job.
• 1:12:39
  But now I can't see you.
• 1:12:40
  So how do I do that?
• 1:12:42
  I'm not sure I see you, but
• 1:12:44
  okay.
• 1:12:44
  Maybe click on a different screen or,
• 1:12:46
  okay.
• 1:12:46
  So is it sharing from
• 1:12:51
  it's suicide choice?
• 1:12:52
  Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  Yeah.
• 1:12:53
  Okay.
• 1:12:53
  So this is what we're talking about, right?
• 1:12:55
  Yep.
• 1:12:56
  All right.
• 1:12:57
  So by the numbers, just real quick, I don't wanna spend a ton of time on this
• 1:13:01
  'cause I wanna show you some brains.
• 1:13:03
  Okay.
• 1:13:03
  But just how much does anybody know about suicide?
• 1:13:07
  That's real, right?
• 1:13:09
  I wanna see in the chat who, who's surprised by what some of this says.
• 1:13:14
  Okay.
• 1:13:15
  First, I'd love to see people in the chat.
• 1:13:18
  Answer is suicide of choice.
• 1:13:20
  I'd love to just get a a level of what people think before
• 1:13:23
  I show 'em some of this.
• 1:13:25
  Good point is suicide of choice.
• 1:13:27
  Who thinks that pretty much when somebody commits a suicide, they
• 1:13:31
  just made a choice to leave?
• 1:13:35
  And then I'm gonna ask that again at the end and we'll see if the answers change,
• 1:13:40
  but we all just have a sense, right?
• 1:13:41
  So is suicide a choice?
• 1:13:44
  Okay, now here's just some data, hard data.
• 1:13:48
  So suicide is the 11th cause of death.
• 1:13:54
  When we look at all age groups.
• 1:13:56
  So I don't know how that hits people, if maybe they thought it
• 1:13:59
  was, more common than maybe you would say, oh, it's the third leading
• 1:14:03
  cause of death, or it's the fifth.
• 1:14:05
  In, in general there's like the top 10 causes of death, but for suicide
• 1:14:10
  in the last, I looked at the data for the last 10 years and suicide
• 1:14:15
  plays this stance of either being number 10 or number 11 every year.
• 1:14:18
  Wow.
• 1:14:19
  So it'll either be the 10th, one year or the 11th, but it hovers right around,
• 1:14:25
  it's either the 10th or the 11th.
• 1:14:26
  And the things that come before that are heart disease, cancer, stroke,
• 1:14:31
  accident diabetes, like the other kind of chronic health issues.
• 1:14:37
  And so suicide is down there.
• 1:14:38
  It's not very common.
• 1:14:40
  So it's usually not the thing that takes somebody out.
• 1:14:44
  Now that's for all age groups.
• 1:14:46
  Now if you look at just 10 to thir 34 year olds, it's the second.
• 1:14:51
  So for those.
• 1:14:52
  Ages.
• 1:14:54
  It's a second leading cause of death.
• 1:14:56
  So if I have a 10-year-old to 34-year-old as a parent, that's a pretty high risk.
• 1:15:03
  I gotta watch 'em, right?
• 1:15:04
  If suicide is the second thing that kills that age group, you have to watch
• 1:15:10
  out for suicide differently, right?
• 1:15:13
  So then for ages 35 to 44, it's the fourth.
• 1:15:18
  So that's a little different than the general rest of us.
• 1:15:22
  This is sad for people that are 85 and older, it's the highest
• 1:15:27
  it's, they are at the highest risk, which maybe makes sense, right?
• 1:15:32
  Wow.
• 1:15:32
  That they are very high risk of suicide.
• 1:15:35
  And so isn't that kind of better to know?
• 1:15:38
  So again, the thing about suicide is nobody knows anything.
• 1:15:42
  So then how can we be watching out appropriately if we don't even know how.
• 1:15:48
  How much are we supposed to watch out?
• 1:15:50
  So that's just, 1 0 1 by the numbers.
• 1:15:53
  80% of all suicides are men.
• 1:15:59
  So we need to watch our boys and our men differently.
• 1:16:05
  They're more at risk.
• 1:16:07
  And when there's a suicide, 55.3% of the time it's with a firearm.
• 1:16:14
  So maybe everybody thinks that.
• 1:16:16
  I don't know.
• 1:16:18
  I was surprised by what the second one is.
• 1:16:20
  So what would you guess is the second one might.
• 1:16:27
  That no idea
• 1:16:29
  for me.
• 1:16:30
  I guessed that it was like a overdose.
• 1:16:32
  I guessed that.
• 1:16:33
  Oh,
• 1:16:33
  okay.
• 1:16:33
  The second way that someone would kill themself is they
• 1:16:36
  overdose on pills or something.
• 1:16:37
  That's what I would think.
• 1:16:39
  But it's, that won't
• 1:16:39
  make
• 1:16:41
  It's hanging.
• 1:16:42
  Hanging.
• 1:16:43
  Oh my God,
• 1:16:44
  yes.
• 1:16:45
  See, I didn't I wouldn't have thought that, I don't think of that.
• 1:16:48
  I think of suicide maybe with a fi firearm.
• 1:16:51
  I'm probably thinking that.
• 1:16:52
  Yeah.
• 1:16:52
  But I'm really not thinking about hanging.
• 1:16:56
  I'm just, I don't have that in there, but that's, that is the
• 1:17:00
  second highest way that people do it.
• 1:17:03
  Okay, so now just real quick again this is surprising to me.
• 1:17:08
  We'll see in the chat how it hits you guys is, so this is by occupation.
• 1:17:14
  Okay.
• 1:17:14
  So now remember my question was, is suicide a choice?
• 1:17:19
  Now here's the hard data.
• 1:17:21
  If you're in construction and extraction.
• 1:17:24
  Extraction means like mining, oil and gas, working in a quarry.
• 1:17:29
  They have the highest rate of suicide.
• 1:17:33
  Now.
• 1:17:33
  How come?
• 1:17:34
  It's just their job.
• 1:17:37
  They have the highest rate per a hundred thousand of suicides.
• 1:17:41
  So somebody is suicidal.
• 1:17:43
  And then what's their occupation?
• 1:17:45
  Somebody's collecting data on that.
• 1:17:48
  Construction workers are the highest risk of suicide.
• 1:17:51
  The next ones are maintenance and repair people.
• 1:17:55
  So now, I'm all about brain injuries and stuff, so I know why I look at that.
• 1:18:01
  Of all the stuff I do with the brain injuries and how many concussions I
• 1:18:06
  work with, and I'm like, oh, that's because they have the most brain damage.
• 1:18:11
  It's right there.
• 1:18:13
  So many in the chat said female pill pills.
• 1:18:16
  So you're.
• 1:18:16
  Looking at men are using firearms and hanging themselves.
• 1:18:20
  How about women?
• 1:18:21
  Do they use pills more?
• 1:18:22
  They use pills more.
• 1:18:23
  Yep.
• 1:18:25
  Good.
• 1:18:25
  Elvira.
• 1:18:25
  Good job.
• 1:18:26
  I was surprised that they there's women that still use
• 1:18:30
  hanging and that surprises me.
• 1:18:33
  Yeah.
• 1:18:33
  So women, it's hanging or medication and it is less likely to be firearm.
• 1:18:42
  That is a real thing.
• 1:18:43
  So then let's all be aware of that.
• 1:18:45
  When men are really not doing well, take the guns outta your damn.
• 1:18:50
  I do that all the time.
• 1:18:51
  When I have somebody that comes in and somebody is not well, especially
• 1:18:55
  somebody that has a lot of bad brain stuff going on, I call their family.
• 1:18:59
  I get their permission.
• 1:19:00
  That's how we do it.
• 1:19:01
  I get their permission, they sign a form and I say, I want
• 1:19:04
  you to go around the house.
• 1:19:05
  I want you to take all of it out of the house.
• 1:19:07
  And it's just what you do.
• 1:19:09
  Until we do our intervention, we rehab the brain, then you
• 1:19:13
  can bring them all back later.
• 1:19:14
  But there's no reason to take a risk when somebody's BA brain is broken.
• 1:19:19
  Why would we do that?
• 1:19:20
  It's not smart.
• 1:19:22
  Look at the ne the next one.
• 1:19:23
  This one surprised me.
• 1:19:24
  Nail salons and people that work in a personal care industry.
• 1:19:28
  So that's also a hairstylist.
• 1:19:31
  That's also like medical assistance like dental assistance
• 1:19:36
  and theirs is really high.
• 1:19:38
  So why are they up there on suicide?
• 1:19:41
  It's because they're have chemical poisoning.
• 1:19:44
  Yeah.
• 1:19:45
  Wow.
• 1:19:45
  This is the suicide list, right?
• 1:19:48
  This is why people kill themself.
• 1:19:52
  So how come it's looks like this?
• 1:19:56
  Because maybe they didn't choose to be suicidal.
• 1:20:00
  Maybe they didn't choose to leave.
• 1:20:02
  Maybe they have chemical poisoning.
• 1:20:04
  Maybe they have a horrible brain injury from a piece of construction
• 1:20:09
  equipment falling on their head.
• 1:20:11
  Sure.
• 1:20:12
  So then we have police and firemen.
• 1:20:15
  Now police and firemen have a lot of stress, but I'll tell
• 1:20:19
  you, I'm a I'm an EAP provider.
• 1:20:21
  For Phoenix Fire and Phoenix Police.
• 1:20:23
  And so I work with tons of them, and they usually are struggling with depression
• 1:20:29
  because they have a head injury.
• 1:20:31
  The police officers fall trip, they certainly have stress, but
• 1:20:36
  they have a lot of head injuries.
• 1:20:37
  And the fire firemen fall, have things fall on 'em.
• 1:20:41
  They're on a run and stuff falls on 'em in the truck.
• 1:20:44
  They fall off ladders.
• 1:20:46
  And they are also very likely to have chemical poisoning.
• 1:20:50
  And they actually have very high rates of death by cancer because they're
• 1:20:55
  exposed to so many toxic poisonous
• 1:20:59
  their fires are super toxic.
• 1:21:01
  Horrible.
• 1:21:02
  Yeah.
• 1:21:02
  And even the suits, I found out from a guy that's trying to help.
• 1:21:06
  Firemen get into more less toxic suits.
• 1:21:08
  There's suits that have all these chemicals on them.
• 1:21:11
  Make 'em fire retardant that's giving 'em cancer.
• 1:21:14
  Yeah.
• 1:21:14
  And a lot of my firemen that I work with at Phoenix Fire, like I've gotten
• 1:21:18
  to know a lot of them, and so now a lot of their friends have died of cancer.
• 1:21:21
  So there's a certain group of them that are working on that, and I work with 'em.
• 1:21:25
  And so what they were telling me is it's like a thing there's a tough
• 1:21:29
  guy, vibrato part of the culture of being a fireman, which makes sense.
• 1:21:33
  They are pretty tough, badass people.
• 1:21:35
  And so there's like a thing where it's not cool.
• 1:21:38
  Like you go to a fire and then you're, what you're supposed to do is you're
• 1:21:42
  supposed to go back to the house and you're supposed to not take your mask off.
• 1:21:45
  You're supposed to hose yourself down and you're gonna, you're supposed to
• 1:21:49
  at least rinse some of that gross stuff off before you take it off and breathe.
• 1:21:53
  But none of 'em do it because it's like a sissy thing to do.
• 1:21:57
  Like for a fireman, it's I'm a tough guy so I can breathe in all this stuff.
• 1:22:01
  And I, it's it's a part of being tough.
• 1:22:03
  So none of them have been doing it all this all these years.
• 1:22:06
  So like they're out on a fire, they'll take their mask off and sit around
• 1:22:10
  and chat and it's like a tough guy thing of I can be in here and I don't
• 1:22:14
  have to have all my stuff on, and then they just don't follow all that
• 1:22:18
  as by the letter as they should.
• 1:22:20
  And now they're starting to do it because their cancer risk is so high and they've
• 1:22:23
  been going to funerals of their friends.
• 1:22:26
  And now there's a couple guys that I work with that have had one of their
• 1:22:30
  best friends died and so they are on their own going around to all the
• 1:22:35
  firehouses and just doing education.
• 1:22:37
  And they're making
• 1:22:38
  good.
• 1:22:38
  The fire, the Phoenix Fire Department.
• 1:22:41
  It was one of their family members, I think, that also died of cancer recently.
• 1:22:44
  So she's making all of them take the training from these guys and the
• 1:22:49
  guys are somewhat open to it, but they're also like resistant to it.
• 1:22:52
  So like firemen really?
• 1:22:54
  It's from chemicals.
• 1:22:56
  Yeah.
• 1:22:56
  Then
• 1:22:57
  I got a guy that does wild horses and he came on my show and his wife
• 1:23:01
  unfortunately died a very tragic death.
• 1:23:04
  And it was from inhalation of smoke from forest fires.
• 1:23:08
  And he went into studying that and he said, people die from forest fires.
• 1:23:12
  You see that and so forth.
• 1:23:14
  But the numbers of people that die from inhalation they're not telling us they're
• 1:23:17
  in the tens of thousands every year.
• 1:23:20
  Then maybe that's 'cause I couldn't really make sense of this.
• 1:23:23
  Farming, fishing and forestry.
• 1:23:24
  I was like, how come there's, oh wow.
• 1:23:27
  Because see, I was like, how are they getting head injuries?
• 1:23:30
  Like the first few, I was like, oh, that's all traumatic brain injury.
• 1:23:33
  All those first two, they're dying of traumatic brain injury.
• 1:23:36
  The second one, obviously chemicals, fire, but farming and fishing, I was
• 1:23:40
  like, what's happening to those guys?
• 1:23:42
  How come?
• 1:23:42
  Yeah.
• 1:23:42
  Now forestry is dangerous.
• 1:23:44
  So if you're actually chopping trees down, that is one of the most
• 1:23:48
  dangerous professions that there is.
• 1:23:51
  Yep.
• 1:23:51
  ' cause a tree falls on you and so I didn't really understand the fishing
• 1:23:56
  and thing that maybe it's chemicals.
• 1:23:58
  Yeah.
• 1:23:58
  And I don't know
• 1:24:00
  chemicals that come off of fires are soup.
• 1:24:02
  Oh,
• 1:24:02
  horrible.
• 1:24:03
  Toxic.
• 1:24:03
  Yeah.
• 1:24:04
  Yep.
• 1:24:04
  So then
• 1:24:05
  just out in the forest, it doesn't have to be like homes and stuff
• 1:24:08
  like that, which is obviously toxic, but the forest fires are toxic.
• 1:24:12
  Crazy.
• 1:24:13
  Yeah.
• 1:24:13
  That's probably what that one is then.
• 1:24:15
  And so then,
• 1:24:15
  oh, that makes sense.
• 1:24:16
  Huh?
• 1:24:16
  How about that?
• 1:24:17
  So then production and manufacturing, maybe I get that.
• 1:24:20
  But now remember we're looking at a list of suicide.
• 1:24:23
  So it's okay, people that work in factories, people that
• 1:24:27
  work in manufacturing, why is there risk of suicide so high?
• 1:24:31
  Because you're like, okay, I work at a factory, I work on an assembly line.
• 1:24:35
  Now I could see that there's there's accidents that happen on an assembly
• 1:24:39
  line, but this is the suicide list, right?
• 1:24:42
  So for some reason, people that work in manufacturing and work for factories,
• 1:24:47
  they have a high higher risk of suicide.
• 1:24:50
  I can't say that I've worked with that many of them, but I would say there's
• 1:24:54
  a high potential for toxic fumes.
• 1:24:57
  Maybe they work where there's not adequate ventilation and it may be
• 1:25:03
  that stuff falls on 'em, like that could make sense in a big factory.
• 1:25:08
  So there's something going on there 'cause they're up there on the suicide.
• 1:25:12
  List Now the next one, arts, entertainment, and media.
• 1:25:17
  Okay.
• 1:25:17
  So people that are now, I work with lots of these people,
• 1:25:21
  actors rock stars producers.
• 1:25:25
  Producers are some of the most unhealthy people, like people that are movie
• 1:25:30
  producers, like when they come in and we're working on a team, like
• 1:25:34
  there's a couple of therapists that we always get stuck on those cases
• 1:25:37
  because they're very hard to work with.
• 1:25:39
  They're not very well people.
• 1:25:41
  And it is what is that about?
• 1:25:43
  Why are they so in bad shape?
• 1:25:46
  I have some sense 'cause I've worked with 'em but it's a thing.
• 1:25:50
  And so actors anybody in the entertainment and media, they, they are very
• 1:25:57
  pretty decently high risk of suicide.
• 1:25:59
  And they, they do have a lot of mental health issues.
• 1:26:02
  So that's huh?
• 1:26:03
  You wouldn't necessarily think that intuitively, right?
• 1:26:06
  Yeah.
• 1:26:07
  So now we're gonna do a little bit of veterans.
• 1:26:09
  So first just male female veterans.
• 1:26:13
  Obviously males a lot more, 37.8 compared to 13.9.
• 1:26:18
  So a lot more for males than females.
• 1:26:22
  And I don't know.
• 1:26:24
  See for me, whenever I get somebody, if I get a football player that comes in my
• 1:26:28
  office, I say, what position do you play?
• 1:26:30
  'cause that tells me everything about your brain, because your
• 1:26:35
  injuries happen based on position.
• 1:26:37
  When I work with somebody in the military, I say, what job did you do?
• 1:26:42
  And that tells me a lot, because it isn't just a one size.
• 1:26:47
  All veterans are saying, what job did you do?
• 1:26:50
  And I need to know a lot more about what did you do every day, where did you do
• 1:26:53
  it, and all that to figure out brain injuries, toxicity, and other stuff.
• 1:26:58
  So I don't know if there's a gender thing there, but there's a, in general
• 1:27:03
  for all age groups, 80% are men.
• 1:27:06
  Okay.
• 1:27:06
  So there's a lot of stuff about that too.
• 1:27:10
  Like the way that we raise boys is not the same as we raise girls.
• 1:27:15
  So boys in general are not given a as anywhere near the same amount of emotional
• 1:27:21
  support when they're little kids.
• 1:27:23
  And that affects brain development.
• 1:27:25
  It actually causes developmental damage.
• 1:27:30
  So
• 1:27:31
  interesting.
• 1:27:31
  So there, there are some gender differences with some of these outcomes
• 1:27:36
  that we're we already know about.
• 1:27:38
  And then.
• 1:27:39
  Because I'm a therapist, I can help men go back and repair some of the
• 1:27:44
  damage from their childhood where it was neglectful, emotionally neglectful.
• 1:27:48
  And I go in and straighten that up and I go and do the things that
• 1:27:52
  weren't done in the first place.
• 1:27:54
  And we do that in my office and it catches 'em up and their brain changes.
• 1:27:57
  So that's cool that we can even do that all these years later.
• 1:28:01
  I'm just let everybody know, whatever you missed as a kid, we can make up for it.
• 1:28:05
  If you know which thing you're making up for, then we can just course correct
• 1:28:09
  that stuff too, which that's fascinating that the brain lets us do that.
• 1:28:13
  Yeah.
• 1:28:13
  There's some guys in the chat that are saying, men don't get the support.
• 1:28:17
  You have boys,
• 1:28:17
  they don't
• 1:28:18
  type thing,
• 1:28:18
  yeah.
• 1:28:19
  Something happens to a little boy and we say, suck it up.
• 1:28:21
  Be tough.
• 1:28:22
  That's
• 1:28:22
  right.
• 1:28:23
  And something happens to a little girl and we pick her up and go, are you okay?
• 1:28:26
  I'm so sorry that happened.
• 1:28:28
  Are you all right?
• 1:28:29
  Little boys have the same nervous system.
• 1:28:31
  And so a little boy that falls, his nervous system is freaked out.
• 1:28:36
  And so he needs somebody to calm him down.
• 1:28:40
  And that actually is very chemical related.
• 1:28:44
  There's cortisol, there's adrenaline.
• 1:28:46
  That's a stress hormone.
• 1:28:48
  It's not good for your brain.
• 1:28:49
  So we're just gonna leave a little 8-year-old boy to soak
• 1:28:54
  in cortisol and adrenaline.
• 1:28:55
  It's bad for his brain, so then his brain is different than the little girl's brain.
• 1:29:01
  So that is real.
• 1:29:04
  So I get upset.
• 1:29:06
  I'm a girl.
• 1:29:07
  I have six brothers.
• 1:29:08
  I was only raised around boys.
• 1:29:11
  So I I can get mad at boys, but at the same time, I get boys.
• 1:29:15
  And I love to work with men.
• 1:29:16
  I work with tons of men, and I don't know I, I'm upset about how
• 1:29:21
  men have been treated in the world.
• 1:29:23
  I'm gonna just say it that way.
• 1:29:25
  That's nice.
• 1:29:25
  And so I love to try to sit and correct it on behalf of, I apologize
• 1:29:30
  on behalf of humanity, we didn't do right by you, but let's fix it.
• 1:29:34
  And I do a lot of that.
• 1:29:36
  Good
• 1:29:36
  job.
• 1:29:36
  So now we're gonna take military and we're gonna break it up by occupation.
• 1:29:40
  'cause some of these other occupations just are surprising.
• 1:29:43
  Were to me.
• 1:29:44
  So if you're in the infantry, if you're in armor and amphibious, so maybe you can
• 1:29:50
  explain that those are about the same.
• 1:29:55
  Yeah.
• 1:29:56
  Then
• 1:29:56
  You're protected in armor.
• 1:29:58
  So if you're inside a, a armored vehicle and, explosions go off
• 1:30:02
  your, pretty much for the most part.
• 1:30:05
  'cause you see in the military guys, it's 101, the lowest end compared to
• 1:30:10
  the top end of the, civilian, it's 69.
• 1:30:13
  So yeah, if you're in the military.
• 1:30:16
  Good chance you're gonna get some brain problems.
• 1:30:19
  Yeah.
• 1:30:20
  Okay.
• 1:30:20
  Now combat engineering, so maybe that's something different than what
• 1:30:26
  I think, but I know I've worked a, with a few guys that their job was,
• 1:30:30
  they were like the engineering part.
• 1:30:32
  Like they were in the tanks that were in the back and they were support,
• 1:30:36
  so they were the guys that set up all the tents, set up the showers,
• 1:30:40
  fixed all the equipment when it broke.
• 1:30:42
  Like they were kind of engineers and they were even when they were like, like in,
• 1:30:46
  in Afghanistan or Iraq, they were combat engineering, but they were always in the
• 1:30:49
  back, but they were always fixing stuff.
• 1:30:52
  But so they weren't right in the front of the action, but they still had
• 1:30:58
  lots of they would still vicariously get injured from things falling on
• 1:31:03
  'em when they were setting things up.
• 1:31:04
  Is that even what combat engineering is?
• 1:31:07
  That would just be the only reference point I have for that.
• 1:31:10
  It's the guys that come in and drop the bridges that go across, water
• 1:31:14
  and they can do demolition as well.
• 1:31:17
  That's pretty much what they do.
• 1:31:18
  If there's, some areas that need to be punched through, they can come in, put
• 1:31:22
  in, demolition, and that's, just my view.
• 1:31:26
  Yeah, there're probably a lot more to what they do anyway.
• 1:31:29
  But still, stuff
• 1:31:29
  falls on
• 1:31:30
  you a little bit more involved than the other three guys now Jennifer
• 1:31:33
  Allen, who's a total brainiac she's saying that this is as good as if
• 1:31:38
  she was in a graduate school class
• 1:31:40
  oh, yay.
• 1:31:41
  Thank you for that feedback.
• 1:31:43
  But, we don't talk about it.
• 1:31:45
  So that's the thing is like, how do we know anything?
• 1:31:47
  And so then how do we deal with figuring something out once it happens?
• 1:31:50
  Yeah.
• 1:31:50
  I was surprised by a lot of this too.
• 1:31:52
  So medical care specialists.
• 1:31:55
  So the people that are the me, medical people on these teams that go in
• 1:31:59
  They're at risk now.
• 1:32:01
  That's similar to the general population that physicians have twice the suicide
• 1:32:06
  rate of any other, anybody else.
• 1:32:09
  They're very high.
• 1:32:10
  They didn't make this little list of occupations, but they're twice the risk
• 1:32:14
  of the general population physicians.
• 1:32:16
  Yeah.
• 1:32:17
  So then it looks like in the military, that's also true too,
• 1:32:20
  is the medical people Yeah.
• 1:32:22
  End up very stressed out and more likely to be vulnerable to suicide.
• 1:32:29
  So
• 1:32:30
  I can vouch for that a little bit.
• 1:32:31
  I've done what's called live tissue training where they
• 1:32:35
  shoot up, animals and stuff and.
• 1:32:37
  Blast them.
• 1:32:38
  Oh.
• 1:32:38
  You keep them alive.
• 1:32:40
  So I remember my, I had a pig that I was working on and
• 1:32:43
  there was like 25 other groups.
• 1:32:45
  My, my pig lasted longer than all the other ones.
• 1:32:49
  Wow.
• 1:32:50
  But I can tell you after that I was traumatized.
• 1:32:53
  Yeah.
• 1:32:54
  I had ptsd, SD from that for a while.
• 1:32:55
  Yeah.
• 1:32:56
  See, I know that, I
• 1:32:57
  see how medics and so forth, would suffer.
• 1:33:00
  Yeah.
• 1:33:01
  I learned different things from just different clients that I
• 1:33:03
  work with, and then I just learn about their world a little bit.
• 1:33:06
  And the one thing I didn't put on here is medical residents.
• 1:33:10
  So the first year of medical residency, they're very high
• 1:33:14
  risk of suicide is number two.
• 1:33:17
  They're very, but that's like kind of who would think that when you as a parent,
• 1:33:22
  if my child wants to go to medical school and I support them and try to help them
• 1:33:26
  get into medical school and they're in the first year of residency, I don't
• 1:33:30
  know that, I don't have any idea that they're at a very high risk of suicide
• 1:33:35
  the first year of their residency.
• 1:33:37
  That's crazy.
• 1:33:38
  And it's been that way for a really long time.
• 1:33:40
  But the first thing that they die of in their first year of residency is cancer.
• 1:33:46
  Now why would that be the case?
• 1:33:49
  So they play with samples.
• 1:33:52
  Yeah.
• 1:33:52
  They're always in the lab playing with samples and doing chemicals
• 1:33:56
  and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:33:58
  And
• 1:33:58
  treatments.
• 1:33:59
  Yeah.
• 1:34:00
  So now I would be curious to go back with the military people if
• 1:34:04
  they're I would now look at their cancer rates and so sometimes, cancer
• 1:34:09
  and suicide have a relationship.
• 1:34:12
  But
• 1:34:12
  sure.
• 1:34:12
  But in general would you necessarily think that going to medical school puts
• 1:34:16
  you at extremely high risk of suicide
• 1:34:19
  if you're an empath?
• 1:34:21
  I would say so.
• 1:34:22
  Oh my gosh.
• 1:34:23
  Yeah.
• 1:34:23
  I
• 1:34:23
  can't tested if you're an empathic you need a little work on that because
• 1:34:27
  you're, take on all of the stress, all of the problems that you're working on.
• 1:34:31
  I'm an empath.
• 1:34:32
  So when I realized that, I started to, learn how to, set my mind and
• 1:34:37
  so forth, it made a difference.
• 1:34:39
  But that's what you would do is men, the four pillars, mental,
• 1:34:42
  emotional, physical, spiritual.
• 1:34:44
  So if you're in a very dangerous situation, you've gotta have a
• 1:34:47
  mitigation on all four levels.
• 1:34:49
  So what am I gonna do mentally?
• 1:34:51
  What am I gonna say to myself so I don't get damaged more by this experience?
• 1:34:55
  How am I gonna take care of myself emotionally?
• 1:34:58
  How am I gonna discharge the emotion so that they don't.
• 1:35:01
  Make me sick later or give me brain damage.
• 1:35:04
  Because emotional stress can change your immune system.
• 1:35:09
  It can put your immune system on hold so that you can't fight off illness.
• 1:35:14
  It can change your T cells, it can shorten the telomeres
• 1:35:19
  on the end of your DNA strand.
• 1:35:21
  So you don't just sit in emotional stress.
• 1:35:23
  It's like very, there's long line of physiological.
• 1:35:28
  I now that you're naming 'em off, you're like of course,
• 1:35:30
  but you, we just don't know.
• 1:35:32
  So this is like a graduate course though.
• 1:35:34
  Good
• 1:35:34
  job.
• 1:35:34
  And so you don't just sit around in stress, but again how are
• 1:35:39
  we supposed to figure that out?
• 1:35:40
  We don't learn it in school.
• 1:35:41
  I just accidentally learned it from going into the field that I
• 1:35:44
  learned and I'm like, oh my gosh.
• 1:35:46
  Note to self.
• 1:35:47
  Oh gosh.
• 1:35:48
  Okay.
• 1:35:48
  And, but.
• 1:35:50
  It is important that you know how to just keep yourself, like if something happened,
• 1:35:55
  mitigate it, and then you're good again.
• 1:35:58
  But what do, how do what do you look for?
• 1:35:59
  What's the map?
• 1:36:00
  So again, how come NCAA sports have different numbers?
• 1:36:06
  Like we're talking about suicide, right?
• 1:36:08
  Suicide on college, students who are athletes.
• 1:36:12
  So football makes sense to me for obvious reasons.
• 1:36:15
  Swimming.
• 1:36:18
  So if you have an NCAA college player, and they are a swimmer, they
• 1:36:22
  have a little bit higher risk of a suicide than a soccer player or a
• 1:36:27
  student that doesn't play a sport.
• 1:36:29
  I don't know.
• 1:36:30
  I, as a parent, I would like to know that.
• 1:36:32
  I would like to have a little heads up so I can take care of
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  my kid a little different and support them a little different.
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  And, yep.
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  So swimming, I know that swimmers, do have accidents if they're a diver so
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  they can hit their head on the board.
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  I know that there's a lot of sexual and abuse that happens to swimmers.
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  So there's a lot abuse that happens to swimmers across their career.
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  Wow.
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  There's also a lot of physical and sexual abuse that happens to football players.
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  There's a culture of hazing in football that nobody talks about, and people get
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  mad at me when I talk about it, but just parents that have football, kids, you need
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  to know that you gotta really be vigilant and you gotta have those conversations
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  so that your boys can protect themselves from being abused because
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  they, they have these hazing rituals.
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  Yeah.
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  And sometimes just college also does that, but it's actually quite dangerous.
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  And baseball players.
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  And then soccer.
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  Baseball players obviously get hit in the head with baseballs.
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  They run into each other on the field.
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  Yeah.
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  And have really bad concussions from running into each other.
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  Soccer players, obviously heading the ball.
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  And also I've had a decent amount of soccer players that were ran close
• 1:37:50
  to the goal, and were trying to like headbutt and hit the actual goal pole.
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  Oh my god.
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  Really knocked themselves out and had a really bad concussion.
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  And then here's my soap box as a brain-based therapist about sports,
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  is whenever somebody actually gets a decent head injury and they actually
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  show deficits, they can't really read, they can't concentrate, they're really
• 1:38:16
  showing significant concussive symptoms.
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  And I say, alright, they have to take a break.
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  They can't play sport this long.
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  Usually a doctor is saying that too.
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  And they also, there's a whole other thing like, don't make 'em read.
• 1:38:32
  I have to talk to their teachers because they can't be expected to do
• 1:38:36
  homework for a short amount of time.
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  We have to let the brain recover and nobody listens to me.
• 1:38:43
  They all roll their eyes and they all go, in what world, Ms. Picarillo, are we gonna
• 1:38:49
  have the student not do their homework?
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  Because don't you understand who they are and don't you understand
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  they're on a scholarship and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:38:59
  And so nobody ever follows my treatment plans.
• 1:39:02
  Nobody ever does the rehab for players.
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  Nobody lets them do it.
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  If I have a player that is oh my God, I feel crazy, I don't feel good
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  man, I'm worried about my own life.
• 1:39:15
  And when they wanna do it, the adults around them, don't let 'em.
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  And I would say of all the cases I've worked, like 98%
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  of them, that's what happens.
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  I'm just being honest.
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  Wow.
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  So nobody, I
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  saw a study where they they did it happened here in the United
• 1:39:32
  States, but we didn't go by it.
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  But they didn't take any test all the way up until, the high school level.
• 1:39:39
  And the Swiss took, I think it was a Swiss that took that study and used it.
• 1:39:44
  And their performance of the Swiss students was like way over the top.
• 1:39:50
  Adjusted did exceptionally well.
• 1:39:52
  Here in the United States it's always performance.
• 1:39:55
  I'm telling you, and I would tell you that through all of this,
• 1:39:57
  there's performance anxiety.
• 1:39:59
  'cause I would experience that when I played sports.
• 1:40:02
  Oh, it's a huge thing.
• 1:40:03
  Perform
• 1:40:04
  at a certain level.
• 1:40:04
  You got a lot of people like deriding you, and same thing in the military.
• 1:40:09
  So there's that as well.
• 1:40:10
  Yeah.
• 1:40:11
  And just overworked.
• 1:40:12
  They're overworked.
• 1:40:13
  They're an athlete.
• 1:40:14
  They also have school.
• 1:40:15
  They also have, to do their laundry and eat and sleep and poop.
• 1:40:19
  And they're exhausted.
• 1:40:21
  And then they get a head injury and they can't change their schedule one iota.
• 1:40:26
  And I'm like, what are you people thinking?
• 1:40:29
  And then what usually happens, 'cause of course I track them and a lot of them,
• 1:40:34
  I just, I stay in contact with 'em and they eventually drop outta school, lose
• 1:40:38
  their scholarship, and end up at home.
• 1:40:41
  And I tried to tell 'em, I tried to tell you this isn't gonna work.
• 1:40:46
  And they don't listen.
• 1:40:47
  And then that happens all the time.
• 1:40:51
  So there's my soapbox now.
• 1:40:53
  Okay.
• 1:40:54
  Okay.
• 1:40:54
  Just quickly, let's talk about with David Wilcox again,
• 1:40:58
  right?
• 1:40:59
  He is talked about with suicide, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:41:01
  There's also these conversations that I've noticed about he's a narcissist.
• 1:41:05
  He's this, he's that.
• 1:41:07
  Somebody else around him might be a narcissist.
• 1:41:09
  All this.
• 1:41:10
  So not just with that, but most of us, people have these conversations
• 1:41:15
  and throw these words around, oh my gosh, they're a narcissist.
• 1:41:18
  This person is a sociopath, all that.
• 1:41:21
  So just by the numbers again for mental health, we talk about
• 1:41:26
  severe mental health, like bipolar, I think people do that too.
• 1:41:31
  They say, oh, that person is so bipolar.
• 1:41:34
  Oh, they're bipolar, and it's just a word that we throw around.
• 1:41:37
  So in general, bipolar is very rare.
• 1:41:42
  Only 2.8% of the population's gonna actually be bipolar.
• 1:41:46
  So maybe people are surprised by that.
• 1:41:48
  But from the number of people that I know that complain that
• 1:41:51
  someone in their life is bipolar, the numbers don't add up first.
• 1:41:55
  There's not that many of them.
• 1:41:57
  Okay?
• 1:41:57
  When those people are actually suicidal 10 to 19% of them
• 1:42:03
  complete, that's what the C is for.
• 1:42:05
  They complete their suicide.
• 1:42:07
  Okay?
• 1:42:08
  So still not that much.
• 1:42:09
  Not that much.
• 1:42:10
  Really, out of a hundred percent of people with bipolar 10 to 10 to 19%
• 1:42:15
  of them actually com complete suicide.
• 1:42:18
  So you're gonna definitely be watching that and paying attention,
• 1:42:22
  but that wouldn't be the actual answer for all suicides, right?
• 1:42:27
  Either.
• 1:42:28
  However, 20 to 60% of them will attempt.
• 1:42:32
  So for me as a mental health professional, it's really two different things and I can
• 1:42:37
  take care of both of 'em at the same time.
• 1:42:40
  But somebody attempting suicide is not always the same thing
• 1:42:44
  as somebody that's suicidal.
• 1:42:46
  This is one really big, complicated thing that I hope I can explain well,
• 1:42:52
  and if people have questions, ask me.
• 1:42:54
  But the thing is, somebody that is gonna commit suicide,
• 1:42:59
  they usually don't say a word.
• 1:43:01
  They just do it.
• 1:43:03
  Yeah.
• 1:43:05
  That's part of the problem.
• 1:43:09
  So that's why like for me, if I have information about suicide and I say,
• 1:43:13
  oh, I've got an athlete, or I've got a physician, they're at high risk.
• 1:43:17
  I've got a fireman, they're at high risk, I'm gonna already preventatively
• 1:43:21
  be paying attention to that.
• 1:43:23
  And if they have a head injury, I'm gonna get all the guns out of the
• 1:43:26
  house and I'm gonna get all the.
• 1:43:28
  I hate to say ropes.
• 1:43:29
  I'm gonna get knives, I'm gonna get, certain things are just gonna
• 1:43:32
  disappear and they're not gonna be able to find 'em for about three
• 1:43:35
  months and I'm just gonna do that.
• 1:43:39
  And then if somebody actively is what we call suicidal ideation.
• 1:43:46
  Okay, so that's the clinical term of somebody's just thinking about it.
• 1:43:50
  I'm thinking about it.
• 1:43:52
  I don't have a plan, but I just, I would just not like to be here anymore.
• 1:43:57
  Sometimes I just like to think about just checking out and leaving, and then
• 1:44:03
  we're supposed to do an assessment and say, okay, then do you have a plan?
• 1:44:06
  There's like a whole way that we deal with that, but it really isn't very
• 1:44:12
  correlated that somebody who attempts
• 1:44:17
  actually completes it.
• 1:44:18
  They're there are two different things.
• 1:44:21
  And I deal with both of them, but I deal with 'em super different because
• 1:44:25
  they're, to me, they're the, it's just as different as anxiety or depression.
• 1:44:31
  Yeah, they're mental health things, but they're so different
• 1:44:33
  and I deal with 'em different.
• 1:44:35
  If somebody threatens suicide and talks about suicide and all that,
• 1:44:38
  I handle it very different than if I just feel based on other other
• 1:44:45
  data points that they're suicidal.
• 1:44:47
  You have to deal with it on both sides.
• 1:44:50
  Wow.
• 1:44:50
  Borderline personality disorder.
• 1:44:52
  I don't know, Michael, if you've heard of borderline, like that one's
• 1:44:56
  not as common as somebody saying, oh, you're so bipolar or narcissistic.
• 1:45:02
  I think narcissistic is the one that everybody throws around the most.
• 1:45:06
  But borderline personality disorder is one that, for people who use
• 1:45:10
  that word, they mean you're crazy.
• 1:45:12
  Yeah.
• 1:45:13
  Oh my God, she's so borderline and that means she's crazy as hell.
• 1:45:18
  Right
• 1:45:18
  now borderline is mo more often diagnosed with females, like
• 1:45:23
  overwhelmingly more so there's like reasons for that, but that is a thing.
• 1:45:29
  But look at the number, the real people who actually meet the criteria to be an
• 1:45:33
  actual borderline personality sorter and they meet the criteria for the diagnosis,
• 1:45:38
  1.4 to 5.9, so you're not gonna run
• 1:45:42
  across.
• 1:45:43
  I'm sorry, I got a, I got another show coming up, but okay.
• 1:45:44
  This has been fantastic.
• 1:45:46
  Back to David Wilcock, 'cause I'm gonna do a show with Kerry Cassidy after this,
• 1:45:50
  and we're gonna talk about Kerry Cassidy.
• 1:45:51
  Oh no.
• 1:45:52
  Are you really?
• 1:45:52
  Yeah, David as well.
• 1:45:54
  But so look at all the different things that could have been, causing a problem.
• 1:45:58
  That's cra Yeah, it's crazy
• 1:46:01
  and
• 1:46:02
  legitimate things and was it MK Ultra?
• 1:46:05
  We didn't quite get to that, but you know who, who knows?
• 1:46:08
  What, what happens?
• 1:46:09
  Was it, was he really taken out or did he take himself out or
• 1:46:14
  was he like, just pulled out?
• 1:46:17
  So it's,
• 1:46:18
  yeah,
• 1:46:19
  crazy.
• 1:46:21
  So let me, how do I go out of here?
• 1:46:26
  So you're, you should, you're I took you out, but you, you're not seeing me still.
• 1:46:30
  Oh,
• 1:46:31
  okay.
• 1:46:32
  No, let me see.
• 1:46:33
  How do I get back to you?
• 1:46:38
  I don't know.
• 1:46:39
  I don't know.
• 1:46:40
  Are you
• 1:46:40
  back?
• 1:46:42
  No.
• 1:46:42
  Am I back?
• 1:46:42
  We can see you.
• 1:46:44
  Oh, okay.
• 1:46:44
  I
• 1:46:44
  never gone.
• 1:46:45
  Okay.
• 1:46:46
  So we'll figure it out later.
• 1:46:47
  The thing is, with him, why does it, why do we need to say that?
• 1:46:53
  We know?
• 1:46:55
  Okay.
• 1:46:55
  So do we have all of the information that we would need to know?
• 1:47:00
  I don't.
• 1:47:01
  And I don't know.
• 1:47:02
  How much she would know.
• 1:47:04
  But I think that it could be true that he could have had mental health
• 1:47:09
  issues and maybe he had I don't know if there was mold in that house.
• 1:47:14
  I do know that one part that he said was, I gotta get outta
• 1:47:17
  here and I'll meet you outside.
• 1:47:21
  So that made me a little suspicious because he was like,
• 1:47:24
  I gotta get out of here, meaning I have to get outta the house.
• 1:47:27
  So then he was outside, so I don't know, it, was there
• 1:47:30
  something going on in the house?
• 1:47:32
  I, that would be one of my first questions.
• 1:47:34
  Then the second thing is, I'm sure that it's true that sometimes people fake
• 1:47:40
  their death and go do something else.
• 1:47:42
  I think that could be true and I don't know a lot about that.
• 1:47:47
  I haven't worked with anybody that's done that.
• 1:47:49
  I have worked with people that are in witness protection program.
• 1:47:53
  I've worked with a few.
• 1:47:55
  So I do know a little bit about that, which before I worked with somebody,
• 1:47:59
  I would be like, is that even real?
• 1:48:02
  If you don't know about it, then you don't know about it.
• 1:48:04
  So I know that's a thing now.
• 1:48:05
  I don't know that
• 1:48:07
  We really gotta go.
• 1:48:07
  This, I'm gonna have to wrap it up here.
• 1:48:09
  Okay.
• 1:48:09
  Thank you.
• 1:48:11
  Dot com and so you're still open to working with people?
• 1:48:15
  Yes.
• 1:48:16
  So I have space now that usually I'm not, but I do, I could work
• 1:48:20
  with a few people right now,
• 1:48:21
  oh, good.
• 1:48:21
  Just go to my website.
• 1:48:22
  You've always
• 1:48:23
  been very,
• 1:48:23
  yeah, just go to my website and let me know.
• 1:48:26
  And I appreciate you, Michael.
• 1:48:27
  I appreciate you for doing this today.
• 1:48:30
  I appreciate you.
• 1:48:30
  This has been phenomenal.
• 1:48:32
  And anytime you wanna come on and continue it I'm completely open to it.
• 1:48:35
  So thank you so much, Darina.
• 1:48:37
  All right.
• 1:48:37
  Okay.
• 1:48:38
  Thanks Mike.
• 1:48:39
  Thanks Tracy.
• 1:48:40
  Thanks everyone.
• 1:48:42
  We'll see you guys next time.
• 1:48:43
  All right.
• 1:48:44
  Bye guys.