Latest / Jess Ask / Seeking God In Transition: Spiritual Growth & Purpose | FT Dr. Dee Fomby | EP93
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- 0:07Speaker 1: Yo, it's your girl, Jessica and Smith, and you already
- 0:10Speaker 1: know that you've entered the safe space for influencers to decompress.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Have fun and just ask God.
- 0:17Speaker 3: For another day.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Do you already know what it is?
- 0:19Speaker 4: And then you know it's about the getrial, So be
- 0:22Speaker 4: sure to show your girl the love and like, come
- 0:26Speaker 4: in and subscribe God for another day.
- 0:30Speaker 5: Hey, hey, I know we could be another way.
- 0:38Speaker 6: I really am dominant, but I struggled with the dominant
- 0:42Speaker 6: seed that I have because a lot of times I
- 0:44Speaker 6: want to be more like my husband, and I critique
- 0:47Speaker 6: and I'm really hard on myself and I'm always asking
- 0:50Speaker 6: God to change me and change me because I'm not
- 0:52Speaker 6: like majority of the people that I see. I don't
- 0:54Speaker 6: process things the way that majority of the world seed like.
- 0:57Speaker 6: Even when I was reading the disk assessment and it
- 1:00Speaker 6: said that I like minds was so high that I
- 1:03Speaker 6: am a rarity. And even when I read another book
- 1:07Speaker 6: about the different personality type, they said I fall within
- 1:10Speaker 6: one percent.
- 1:11Speaker 7: I'm a one percenter.
- 1:12Speaker 6: And so when you're a one percenter in a world
- 1:14Speaker 6: of ninety nine percent, you're gonna always feel like you're
- 1:17Speaker 6: the odd ball out. And people don't understand you. That's
- 1:21Speaker 6: why I always said that people have to be anointed
- 1:23Speaker 6: to be in my life. You got to be sent
- 1:25Speaker 6: to me or I have to be called to you. Otherwise,
- 1:27Speaker 6: like who I am, I'm going to frustrate you and
- 1:30Speaker 6: I'm always have to apologize to you and things like that,
- 1:33Speaker 6: And based upon what we learned about me last night,
- 1:36Speaker 6: like I don't have the space to have people in
- 1:39Speaker 6: my space where I have to always apologize just for
- 1:42Speaker 6: me being me, Like this is me. This is not
- 1:45Speaker 6: me trying to come in and take over. This is
- 1:47Speaker 6: not me trying to you know, not respect leadership or
- 1:50Speaker 6: anybody else.
- 1:51Speaker 7: It's just it's just me.
- 1:53Speaker 6: So the maturity side of me is saying, now that
- 1:56Speaker 6: I know how I process things internally and externally, it's that, now, how.
- 2:01Speaker 7: Do other people need to receive you?
- 2:04Speaker 6: That's where the maturity comes in and like, yeah, now
- 2:06Speaker 6: you know that you're a D and D even when
- 2:09Speaker 6: you don't try, But how can you be an I
- 2:12Speaker 6: or S or C and moments where other people need
- 2:15Speaker 6: me to be without losing like who I Am?
- 2:20Speaker 3: That's the clip right there. Thank you so much.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Listen, if you join if you joined in, you saw
- 2:26Speaker 1: her first it's because she got that. She got that authority.
- 2:31Speaker 1: She got that authority. If you don't know where you are.
- 2:33Speaker 7: You just let it it.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Just asked the podcast, well we create a safe space
- 2:36Speaker 1: for influence. Does the d Compress have of and just just.
- 2:40Speaker 6: Just wanted to say that, just ask.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Okay, today it's gonna be fun. I'm gonna introduce who
- 2:50Speaker 1: y'all just saw in a moment. But y'all already know
- 2:52Speaker 1: what y'all want. Come on, do this with me on
- 2:54Speaker 1: desert right, hey, desilt right.
- 3:04Speaker 6: I always wanted to do that.
- 3:08Speaker 1: I love her so much, that's all right, before you
- 3:12Speaker 1: put it back on her, put it on you, sis.
- 3:15Speaker 3: How you doing? How you doing?
- 3:17Speaker 1: I know, we I know, we got to get ourselves together.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Because I am so good. I'm good, you know, I've
- 3:25Speaker 1: just been This morning has been good. I went to
- 3:28Speaker 1: a service for my friends little baby that you know,
- 3:32Speaker 1: and so just even in that moment, you know, I've
- 3:35Speaker 1: just been able just to kind of sit in gratitude
- 3:36Speaker 1: because their faith is just so big, you know what
- 3:39Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I love them and so I'm just
- 3:42Speaker 1: just processing a little bit.
- 3:43Speaker 3: But otherwise I'm good.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Because God is so faithful God is faith He's still
- 3:46Speaker 1: so faithful. He is faithful, and I was. I've been
- 3:49Speaker 1: reading Sawo Timothy this week with my dad, So we've
- 3:52Speaker 1: been reading a new Testament.
- 3:54Speaker 3: His church is doing it. Shout out to my diddy.
- 3:55Speaker 3: Indeed I did.
- 3:58Speaker 1: And in the in the script sure it talks about
- 4:01Speaker 1: in two Timothy, I think it might be the second
- 4:06Speaker 1: second chapter, it talks about how although when we become faithless,
- 4:11Speaker 1: he remains faithful because he cannot allow on himself.
- 4:15Speaker 6: Right.
- 4:16Speaker 1: But that's the that's the reward of being in God,
- 4:18Speaker 1: because I met. When we decide to be in here,
- 4:21Speaker 1: in Him, our major measure of faith is increased. But
- 4:25Speaker 1: also we get to see the increase and influx of
- 4:28Speaker 1: His faithfulness because we're in Him.
- 4:30Speaker 3: So that's that's it. That's exciting.
- 4:32Speaker 1: And so before we get into it, before we get
- 4:34Speaker 1: into we gotta acknowledge our community.
- 4:36Speaker 3: Okay, y'all know, y'all like this community highlight.
- 4:39Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it brief today because I really want
- 4:40Speaker 1: to get to my my love overhill to my left.
- 4:44Speaker 3: I love him so much.
- 4:46Speaker 1: But I would love to personally shout out Brittany Paul
- 4:51Speaker 1: Britney pauls Brittany Latrice Paul Okay, that's her Instagram name.
- 4:56Speaker 3: Brittany. We're so proud of you. First of all, we
- 4:58Speaker 3: want to thank you.
- 4:59Speaker 1: You've always been sport of you, always shown up, you
- 5:01Speaker 1: always sent a word of encouragement, You always so and
- 5:04Speaker 1: so thank you so much for being the supporter you are.
- 5:06Speaker 1: But however, I just so excited. We are so excited
- 5:10Speaker 1: about what God is doing for you in this season.
- 5:13Speaker 1: He is exposing you beyond what you could see.
- 5:16Speaker 3: He's giving you the giving you the accuracy of your dreams.
- 5:20Speaker 1: He's given you the accuracy of the worst that you've
- 5:22Speaker 1: been uh has been spoken over you. So I'm super
- 5:25Speaker 1: excited for what He's doing. May the love of God
- 5:28Speaker 1: just overwhelm you in this season. We love you, y'all
- 5:32Speaker 1: give it up for missus Britney part all right, I
- 5:38Speaker 1: found my butt in Jessica, you found one time?
- 5:42Speaker 3: Are you doing.
- 5:44Speaker 1: All right?
- 5:45Speaker 3: Her and her button?
- 5:47Speaker 7: The people know?
- 5:47Speaker 3: Did y'all enjoy that? Y'all did y'all?
- 5:50Speaker 1: Let doesn't really know in the commune, yea if y'all
- 5:52Speaker 1: enjoyed it or not. But I gotta get I gotta
- 5:55Speaker 1: get to the woman the God that y'all saw first. Okay,
- 5:58Speaker 1: y'all know I love a good introduction. This lady Hill
- 6:02Speaker 1: is nothing to play with. This Lady Hill, okay, is special. Okay,
- 6:09Speaker 1: She's special beyond just being like personally to me. She
- 6:12Speaker 1: is special to this world. God really sent her for
- 6:15Speaker 1: a time such as this. She's an author, she is
- 6:19Speaker 1: a full in ministry, but uniquely okay, because she she
- 6:23Speaker 1: moves where God wants her to move. She is the
- 6:26Speaker 1: definition of an entrepreneur. Like when we talk about entrepreneurs,
- 6:30Speaker 1: I think about you know, you might have one lane. No,
- 6:32Speaker 1: she's multifaceted, Okay, she is.
- 6:35Speaker 3: She has done the link that y'all saw.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Yeah, this whole right here and her husband you know
- 6:41Speaker 1: jad for me that y'all saw last year, this time
- 6:46Speaker 1: that they are forced to be wrecking with. But most importantly,
- 6:50Speaker 1: she is a daughter of the King and the child
- 6:51Speaker 1: the most High, and she embraces that. She really embraces that.
- 6:55Speaker 1: And also she holds the title of being my spiritual mother.
- 7:01Speaker 7: That's right, where where's the sound?
- 7:04Speaker 3: She also passed on forward to do what she's doing about.
- 7:08Speaker 3: So I present this song to.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Introduce the others, none other then Doctor d from Mad.
- 7:18Speaker 3: Coach.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Well, I'll gonna hear me call her coach. That's what
- 7:22Speaker 1: That's why I learned to call her. I remember you
- 7:24Speaker 1: remember that time you aren't know what to say. Listen
- 7:28Speaker 1: when I first I know her for like five dogs
- 7:31Speaker 1: five years now five years and when I first was
- 7:34Speaker 1: like being introduced her and she was like damn me.
- 7:37Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, she's in my DM
- 7:39Speaker 1: because she didn't she didn't.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Chick records, like oh my god, sails.
- 7:43Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, hey, beautiful, I was just
- 7:47Speaker 1: called I was just checking it. Look at her face.
- 7:51Speaker 1: She was like, I forgot what I said. I just
- 7:54Speaker 1: remember hate beautiful. And she was like, Hi, you can
- 7:57Speaker 1: just refer to me as coach or I was like
- 8:01Speaker 1: oh and she was like yeah, I don't do terms
- 8:03Speaker 1: of endearments.
- 8:07Speaker 2: I was like, I've been cool.
- 8:09Speaker 3: Listen, talk about y'all be talking.
- 8:10Speaker 1: About rebuke and gearing from day one, from day direction
- 8:14Speaker 1: correct correction.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Now how you feeling today, coach?
- 8:17Speaker 6: I am super excited to be here with both of you.
- 8:20Speaker 7: Guys, Like this means everything to me.
- 8:23Speaker 6: That this is my first time on Just ask the podcast.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Coach, are we really gonna start?
- 8:28Speaker 2: Like this.
- 8:30Speaker 6: Had to let the people know that after a hundredth episode.
- 8:34Speaker 1: And your this is not one hundred, you gonna be
- 8:37Speaker 1: in the nineties.
- 8:39Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I thought she was gonna wait to play
- 8:40Speaker 6: it out for a hundred or something.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Coach, can you stop telling me folks that this is
- 8:47Speaker 1: your first time on just ass.
- 8:49Speaker 3: Because we did a just ass at the leak with you. Coach.
- 8:54Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, but it was a lot of people.
- 8:57Speaker 3: You just wanted your solo because Coach JD had his solo.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Shout out to Coach, Listen, we were we were just
- 9:05Speaker 1: talking about what y'all heard her like talking about earlier.
- 9:08Speaker 1: We took a disk assessment as a team. There's a
- 9:11Speaker 1: team of us that help and assistant served the fumbies
- 9:16Speaker 1: in their ministry, right, and so we're super excited about that.
- 9:20Speaker 1: We had a team out in last night and it
- 9:23Speaker 1: when I tell you that dog one j D fumy.
- 9:32Speaker 1: I don't y'all go watch this episode. Okay, we'll look
- 9:35Speaker 1: it down, but it was so good. And Coach has
- 9:38Speaker 1: this revelation of herself because she's a hogh D and
- 9:42Speaker 1: everybody guessed that she was a high D off the
- 9:46Speaker 1: disk assessment, and so she was just sharing on her heart.
- 9:48Speaker 1: But how did you wake up this morning knowing the
- 9:51Speaker 1: knowledge of you being a high D.
- 9:52Speaker 6: Yeah, so one I started to appreciate myself more because
- 9:56Speaker 6: I always criticized myself. I know a lot of times,
- 9:59Speaker 6: like people, they see me showing up confidently, but I'm
- 10:02Speaker 6: still trying to figure out how to be me and
- 10:05Speaker 6: still enter into the rooms where I'm not intimidating other people.
- 10:09Speaker 6: But knowing that I am naturally a D, which means
- 10:13Speaker 6: dominant externally and internally, I know that I no longer
- 10:18Speaker 6: have to adjust in order to fit certain spaces or
- 10:21Speaker 6: to make other people feel comfortable. And like I was
- 10:24Speaker 6: sharing before, is that you have to be sent to me.
- 10:26Speaker 6: And when you're sent to me, that means that you're
- 10:28Speaker 6: coming into my life because you're ready for change in
- 10:31Speaker 6: your life and being a D high D on both
- 10:35Speaker 6: sides yield the results that I'm looking at right now.
- 10:39Speaker 6: Even through you, I'm just saying you start, I'm just saying.
- 10:44Speaker 1: And I will, I will say that you said something
- 10:47Speaker 1: that I'm surprised about. But how I feel too like
- 10:50Speaker 1: you just you said that a couple of times where
- 10:53Speaker 1: like you walk into rooms and you try to like
- 10:55Speaker 1: adjust and I think adjustment is fair, right, I think
- 10:58Speaker 1: adjustment is fair because there's something that says about being
- 11:02Speaker 1: all things to all people, but we need to know
- 11:05Speaker 1: like that does not alter our core of who we are. However,
- 11:09Speaker 1: that's something I struggle with because it'd be like, you know.
- 11:12Speaker 3: I come off a bit much.
- 11:14Speaker 1: You know, I come off a bit much, and people
- 11:17Speaker 1: might take me or digest me one way, but and
- 11:20Speaker 1: my intentions are like no, I would never do that,
- 11:22Speaker 1: Like I just want something to be better, Like I
- 11:24Speaker 1: just want to enhance.
- 11:25Speaker 3: But how can I portray that?
- 11:27Speaker 1: Like, how have you been able to maneuver mentally and
- 11:30Speaker 1: maintain the companies?
- 11:30Speaker 3: Because you've been only about this word you've been been y'all.
- 11:34Speaker 3: I get it. I begin it.
- 11:36Speaker 1: I begin it because you're like just got need just
- 11:38Speaker 1: your own company. How do you maneuver through that and
- 11:41Speaker 1: maintain your comfidence level?
- 11:43Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 11:43Speaker 6: So I realized, like, when I'm entering into a space,
- 11:45Speaker 6: I know my intentions and my motives, and oftentimes people
- 11:49Speaker 6: they judge us based upon how they feel about themselves
- 11:52Speaker 6: or how they see themselves. And so I realized, like
- 11:54Speaker 6: I no longer have to modify like who I am
- 11:57Speaker 6: to adjust to the low self esteem or the low
- 12:00Speaker 6: confidence that they may be struggling with. And I've learned
- 12:03Speaker 6: how to now enter into a room and feel confident
- 12:07Speaker 6: about who I am, but also embrace wherever someone else
- 12:10Speaker 6: may be, so it's not a judgment to them. But
- 12:12Speaker 6: I'm no longer judging myself for being the way that
- 12:14Speaker 6: I am.
- 12:16Speaker 1: I'm not judging myself for being the way that I am.
- 12:21Speaker 1: If that's not a hashtag or a quotable, I don't
- 12:26Speaker 1: know what is, because that that is. I didn't realize
- 12:28Speaker 1: that was connected. The lack of confidence is connected to
- 12:33Speaker 1: self judgement.
- 12:34Speaker 3: But because we all have she years on me. I'm
- 12:37Speaker 3: gonna say this a lot. She gets on me.
- 12:39Speaker 1: About this, She gets to me about this, about just
- 12:42Speaker 1: being She's like, everybody got problems, everybody issues. How do
- 12:46Speaker 1: we overcome that? So I want us to do something
- 12:49Speaker 1: because you are folks, know you people people you you
- 12:53Speaker 1: not outside in like like outside outside but you outside.
- 12:58Speaker 7: I'm not knowing you.
- 12:59Speaker 1: I think it's a good a good place because we
- 13:02Speaker 1: got to go from the beginning, d in the past,
- 13:07Speaker 1: like as far as how did everything start with you?
- 13:09Speaker 1: Because you weren't always safe, No, you did not always
- 13:12Speaker 1: believe in the Lord. You was not always You've always
- 13:15Speaker 1: probably been dumbing it.
- 13:19Speaker 3: That idea. But how do how do we go from.
- 13:24Speaker 1: A d that doesn't appreciate God, doesn't have a relationship
- 13:27Speaker 1: with God, to somebody that is, Hey, I show the
- 13:30Speaker 1: love of God every day.
- 13:31Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's so powerful for me because you know,
- 13:35Speaker 6: I grew up like in the church and my mom
- 13:37Speaker 6: she took me to church and we were always tearing
- 13:40Speaker 6: for the holy goals and you know, seeing people shout
- 13:43Speaker 6: and scream and all of that. But then we would
- 13:46Speaker 6: go home and we would be abused. And so what
- 13:48Speaker 6: I learned from church people is that they were mean
- 13:51Speaker 6: and they were broke, and I did not want any
- 13:54Speaker 6: part of it. I did not want to serve the
- 13:55Speaker 6: God that they were serving if this this was the
- 13:58Speaker 6: results that they were getting, And so I stayed away
- 14:00Speaker 6: from church.
- 14:01Speaker 7: I didn't believe that there was a God.
- 14:02Speaker 6: It couldn't be a God with the way that they
- 14:05Speaker 6: would be in church acting like they loved him, but
- 14:08Speaker 6: then their regular lifestyle wasn't a reflection of it. And
- 14:11Speaker 6: so I stayed away from stayed away from God. And
- 14:15Speaker 6: just due to the history in my household, I started
- 14:18Speaker 6: seeking love in other places. And the first type of
- 14:21Speaker 6: love that I found was in a homosexual lesbian relationship.
- 14:25Speaker 6: And you know, truth of the matter is that I
- 14:28Speaker 6: enjoyed being in a relationship. I was there for almost
- 14:31Speaker 6: five years, and you know, to me, we had the
- 14:34Speaker 6: perfect lifestyle.
- 14:35Speaker 7: We had.
- 14:37Speaker 6: I bought my first house when I was nineteen years old.
- 14:39Speaker 6: We were driving brand new cars off the lot, had
- 14:42Speaker 6: a motorcycle. We would go to gay clubs and we
- 14:45Speaker 6: would be like the it couple that everybody wanted, you know,
- 14:49Speaker 6: wanted to know or you know, to be a part
- 14:51Speaker 6: of our circle. And after that, the lady and I
- 14:55Speaker 6: we started going to church. And when we started going
- 14:59Speaker 6: to church, I was like, oh, okay, like you know,
- 15:01Speaker 6: this is this is new, this is different because I
- 15:05Speaker 6: was in that lifestyle. Everybody, you know, the church people,
- 15:08Speaker 6: they always had a scripture for you and all of that,
- 15:10Speaker 6: and I had one for them.
- 15:11Speaker 7: I was ready. I didn't know what's something I.
- 15:14Speaker 6: Felt was a scripture. Some of heard some of her
- 15:18Speaker 6: that they was gonna get, you know what I'm saying,
- 15:20Speaker 6: and so like, from then we started going to church.
- 15:24Speaker 6: And I remember one day, truthfully, I didn't I open
- 15:27Speaker 6: up my Bible, but I didn't know where to start.
- 15:29Speaker 6: And I said, Okay, I am going to research, like
- 15:34Speaker 6: my lifestyle, what does the Bible say about homosexuality? And
- 15:37Speaker 6: I had never read the Bible before, had not ever
- 15:41Speaker 6: heard a scripture about homosexuality. And so I went to
- 15:43Speaker 6: the Concordance and I looked at homosexuality and I started
- 15:46Speaker 6: reading all of these scriptures and I felt like my
- 15:49Speaker 6: eyes were open. And I remember asking her, I said, so,
- 15:54Speaker 6: you're saying that the lifestyle that we're in, like is wrong,
- 15:59Speaker 6: and she said, yeah, but God wouldn't allow us to
- 16:02Speaker 6: feel this way if we weren't supposed to be together.
- 16:05Speaker 6: But all I heard in that moment was her saying
- 16:08Speaker 6: that our lifestyle was wrong. And so we continue to
- 16:13Speaker 6: go to church. But now I'm seeing in church and
- 16:15Speaker 6: I'm uncomfortable being in the church with her, and so
- 16:18Speaker 6: I started going to y'all was going to church to
- 16:21Speaker 6: get going to church together. At first, Oh yeah, She's
- 16:24Speaker 6: the one that introduced me to start going to church
- 16:27Speaker 6: because she had a relationship with, you know, with God.
- 16:30Speaker 6: And so I started feeling uncomfortable going to church with her,
- 16:34Speaker 6: and so I started going to another church. I started
- 16:37Speaker 6: going to another church, and you know, they're preaching the Bible.
- 16:40Speaker 6: I'm having these experiences with God or you know, I
- 16:44Speaker 6: feel like it's God. I'm having these experience I've never
- 16:46Speaker 6: had before, and it's causing me to question my entire lifestyle.
- 16:51Speaker 6: And I'm starting looking at her differently. I'm starting looking
- 16:54Speaker 6: at the way that I'm living differently. And I remember
- 16:58Speaker 6: hearing God's voice telling me that I was going to
- 17:01Speaker 6: leave her, and I'm like, God, like, I cannot leave
- 17:04Speaker 6: her because you know, I have false loyalty sometime to people.
- 17:09Speaker 6: And I just felt like she helped me to get
- 17:13Speaker 6: to where I was, like pulling me from the street.
- 17:15Speaker 6: She has been such a great like a role model
- 17:19Speaker 6: to me. We loved each other, we loved the lifestyle.
- 17:22Speaker 6: So God was saying, like, Yo, it's time for you
- 17:24Speaker 6: to come out of the lifestyle. I went to church
- 17:27Speaker 6: and I told God this. I said, if I don't
- 17:30Speaker 6: hear your voice today, I'm not leaving her now.
- 17:33Speaker 7: Who am I to challenge this man?
- 17:36Speaker 6: I was like, I said, if I don't hear your
- 17:38Speaker 6: voice today now, I ain't never heard the voice of God.
- 17:40Speaker 6: I don't even know I don't even know what the
- 17:42Speaker 6: voice sound like, but if I don't hear the voice
- 17:45Speaker 6: of God, I said, I'm not leaving her, and I'm
- 17:48Speaker 6: never like, I'm never having this conversation again. Now this
- 17:50Speaker 6: is what I'm telling, Like, I'm telling God, like, yo, this,
- 17:53Speaker 6: this is it. So I go to church, I'm hearing
- 17:55Speaker 6: the message and I'm saying, I'm sitting there crying. Don't
- 17:59Speaker 6: know why I'm crying, but I am crying. And here
- 18:03Speaker 6: I am I find myself walking to the altar. And
- 18:07Speaker 6: this is why I believe so much in a prophetic
- 18:09Speaker 6: and intercessors. It's because when I went to the altar,
- 18:13Speaker 6: I was crying so bad that I couldn't even tell
- 18:16Speaker 6: her what I needed prayer for. And she looked at
- 18:19Speaker 6: me so boldly and she said, the Lord said that
- 18:21Speaker 6: the decision that you're making today is.
- 18:23Speaker 7: The right decision.
- 18:24Speaker 6: Wow.
- 18:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:25Speaker 6: And then like so I'm crying, and she said, God
- 18:29Speaker 6: really wants you to know that the decision that you're
- 18:32Speaker 6: making today is the right decision. And so they had
- 18:36Speaker 6: to carry me back to my seat now because I'm like,
- 18:38Speaker 6: oh my God, Like I feel like I was grieving
- 18:41Speaker 6: like a whole like death, because I knew that the
- 18:44Speaker 6: death of me in that moment, like I was, it
- 18:47Speaker 6: was like a conversion.
- 18:48Speaker 7: What's happening in that moment. She came back to the
- 18:52Speaker 7: pew that I was sitting on.
- 18:53Speaker 6: She said, I don't know what decision that you have
- 18:55Speaker 6: to make, but God really want you to know that
- 18:57Speaker 6: the decision that you're making is the right decision. This
- 19:00Speaker 6: is the third time that she said this. And I
- 19:02Speaker 6: went home and I told the woman that I was with.
- 19:05Speaker 6: I told her, I said, I can't, I can't do
- 19:07Speaker 6: this anymore. God is calling me out. We went to bed,
- 19:10Speaker 6: holding each other. We cried so hard because we knew
- 19:14Speaker 6: that this was the end of us. And so I
- 19:18Speaker 6: left that entire lifestyle based upon God proving himself to me.
- 19:25Speaker 6: And after I left, you know, my life it did,
- 19:28Speaker 6: you know, go down before it came up, and to
- 19:31Speaker 6: the point that I was living in the basement of
- 19:34Speaker 6: someone's house at that church. And I'm not talking about
- 19:37Speaker 6: like you know, the basements that we have right now.
- 19:40Speaker 6: I'm talking about the basements whereas cement, no heat, no
- 19:43Speaker 6: air down there.
- 19:44Speaker 7: That's the type of basement.
- 19:45Speaker 6: So I went from having the lifestyle, having the support,
- 19:48Speaker 6: having everything that I wanted in.
- 19:50Speaker 7: Life to now my life looking like this.
- 19:53Speaker 3: How old were you at the time I was.
- 19:55Speaker 7: I was in my twenties.
- 19:56Speaker 6: I was in my twenties. And so I feel let
- 19:58Speaker 6: me pause and say this. I feel like, you know,
- 20:00Speaker 6: oftentimes people they start to lose their faith in the
- 20:03Speaker 6: transition and in the process, because when God told me
- 20:06Speaker 6: to do something, I obeyed, My life didn't go up.
- 20:09Speaker 6: It actually went down, like it got worse before it
- 20:13Speaker 6: got better. And so like what God was doing was
- 20:16Speaker 6: he was really purging me of the lifestyle. So all
- 20:18Speaker 6: the friends that I had while I was in that lifestyle,
- 20:20Speaker 6: they gone. I don't see them, I don't know them,
- 20:23Speaker 6: like everybody, everybody gone. All the money that I had, everything,
- 20:26Speaker 6: like literally it's gone. And I remember there were nights
- 20:30Speaker 6: where I said, you know what, I'm just going back
- 20:32Speaker 6: to the lifestyle. I remember, like at night, midnight, I'm
- 20:35Speaker 6: trying to call her because I'm like, I'm coming back.
- 20:39Speaker 7: She would not answer the phone.
- 20:40Speaker 6: And by the time that she answered the phone, I
- 20:42Speaker 6: mean call me back, like I'm I'm back to my
- 20:44Speaker 6: I'm back to myself. And you know, from there, my
- 20:48Speaker 6: obedience pretty much led me here. And I told God,
- 20:54Speaker 6: I said, okay, since you want me so bad, you're
- 20:57Speaker 6: going to have to prove to me that you're really God.
- 21:00Speaker 3: And so this is why I.
- 21:02Speaker 6: Stand ten times down that who God is. And so
- 21:05Speaker 6: when I preach and I minister, I minister from a
- 21:08Speaker 6: place where God has proven every step of the way
- 21:10Speaker 6: that he's a deliverer, that he's a provider, that he's
- 21:13Speaker 6: a miracle worker, that he's a healer. Because my process,
- 21:16Speaker 6: my life, God proved through many trials and tribulations that
- 21:21Speaker 6: he is God like a miracle worker, you know, healing me,
- 21:25Speaker 6: allowing my mind, my body, you know, burying three of
- 21:29Speaker 6: my sons, having a miscarriage, like only only God could
- 21:33Speaker 6: allow me to be right here in my right mind,
- 21:35Speaker 6: having to go through all of that. So every step
- 21:37Speaker 6: of the way, even through the trials and tribulations, God
- 21:40Speaker 6: proved that he's he's a healer, he's a miracle worker.
- 21:43Speaker 7: And so that's the deed that you see see.
- 21:45Speaker 6: Today, one that is ten times down with Jehovah Abbah
- 21:51Speaker 6: my father.
- 21:52Speaker 7: Like I love God because he's been faithful.
- 21:55Speaker 1: You said a lot and coach, I love you, and
- 21:58Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, you said ten times down. Yeah,
- 22:10Speaker 1: because He's gonna say, babe, you said ten times twice,
- 22:15Speaker 1: it's sorry.
- 22:19Speaker 3: She still she tried to be a little.
- 22:25Speaker 1: So, but you said so much in that Let's let's
- 22:28Speaker 1: start here, you let's start hear in the place of
- 22:31Speaker 1: the place of transition and navigating transition, because that's so important.
- 22:36Speaker 3: You're talking to my now so good, Like, listen, I
- 22:40Speaker 3: want you to throw the tape, the whole tape.
- 22:43Speaker 1: You're talking to my now so good, because I don't
- 22:46Speaker 1: I will be honest the place of transition, I make
- 22:50Speaker 1: the worst mistakes, like I make emotional decisions. How Like,
- 22:55Speaker 1: I'm so appreciated that you brought up like, hey, I
- 22:57Speaker 1: did I did call but the Lord. Yeah, so what
- 23:02Speaker 1: was your prayer language, what was your intentions?
- 23:04Speaker 3: What was your practice like in the midst of transition?
- 23:07Speaker 6: Yeah, so in the midst of transition, like I really
- 23:09Speaker 6: threw myself into a safe place, Like there's no way
- 23:12Speaker 6: that I could be in this place if I didn
- 23:15Speaker 6: surround myself in uh with a community of believers who
- 23:19Speaker 6: had faith that I didn't have, and so like I
- 23:21Speaker 6: had to borrow other people's faith at times, their belief,
- 23:24Speaker 6: their prayer language, their scriptures because I didn't know it.
- 23:28Speaker 7: I was in a new place.
- 23:29Speaker 6: I was almost like a new born baby entering into
- 23:32Speaker 6: a space that I had never experienced before, and God
- 23:35Speaker 6: telling me to go to a place where I felt lonely,
- 23:39Speaker 6: like I didn't have my mother, my father, my siblings,
- 23:41Speaker 6: I didn't have anybody but these.
- 23:43Speaker 7: People that was in the church.
- 23:45Speaker 6: And I'm finding out I'm facing disappointments because I'm finding
- 23:49Speaker 6: out that there are just like streets in the church.
- 23:52Speaker 6: Like so I'm like, I'm just feeling lost. I'm feeling
- 23:55Speaker 6: confused during this time. But I did find a community
- 24:00Speaker 6: that helped me, small group really helped me during that time,
- 24:03Speaker 6: and I really put myself like in the word of
- 24:07Speaker 6: God for real. And I'm not trying to overspiritualize this,
- 24:10Speaker 6: but when I looked outside, like there was nothing, there
- 24:14Speaker 6: was nobody one who was transitioning the way that I
- 24:17Speaker 6: felt like I was transitioning. You know, a lot of
- 24:19Speaker 6: times we feel like we're the only ones that are
- 24:21Speaker 6: going through something, like nobody else could be experiencing this
- 24:25Speaker 6: transition right here. They don't understand, and so like I
- 24:28Speaker 6: felt like nobody understood. But I did know that, Okay,
- 24:32Speaker 6: the place where I was, I had the revelation and
- 24:35Speaker 6: I had the conviction this is not what God had
- 24:38Speaker 6: for me. So I knew that I had to do
- 24:40Speaker 6: something different if I was going to yield the results
- 24:43Speaker 6: that he really won from me. So I kept saying, like, Okay,
- 24:46Speaker 6: gotta be something that God wants from me. As to
- 24:49Speaker 6: the reason why he would call me out of a lifestyle,
- 24:51Speaker 6: Why you ain't choose somebody else, because there are people
- 24:53Speaker 6: you know that feel like they're gonna be in the
- 24:55Speaker 6: lifestyle for the rest of their life. Why ain't called
- 24:57Speaker 6: him out? Why you calling me out? And this was
- 25:00Speaker 6: a safe place for me. So I was more so
- 25:03Speaker 6: pursuing and trying to figure out what did he see
- 25:05Speaker 6: and me that was so great that he would choose
- 25:08Speaker 6: me to come out of this lifestyle.
- 25:10Speaker 3: It's so good. Yeah. What keep ringing in my mind
- 25:12Speaker 3: is like, how how brave you are because I'm I'm
- 25:19Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie ooh, I mean, I'm.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Gullible, Like it's just it's like, oh, but this relationship,
- 25:26Speaker 1: but I'm gonna hurt this person in our life, Like
- 25:28Speaker 1: it's just it's it probably breaks my heart harder than
- 25:30Speaker 1: it do the other person.
- 25:31Speaker 6: That's what I all the time, Because you got to
- 25:34Speaker 6: keep in mind, like we had a whole family. So
- 25:36Speaker 6: she she had four kids at the time that I've
- 25:39Speaker 6: raised and we're living in the same household together.
- 25:42Speaker 7: So I didn't just leave her.
- 25:43Speaker 6: I'm leaving the family dynamic, the only family dynamic that
- 25:47Speaker 6: the only safe place that I've had.
- 25:49Speaker 7: I've been on my own.
- 25:50Speaker 6: I was sixteen years old, Since sixteen years old, and
- 25:53Speaker 6: this was the only family dynamic that I knew. And
- 25:57Speaker 6: here it is God. He's taken away the only thing
- 26:00Speaker 6: that I feel safe, the only place I feel safe.
- 26:03Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, so okay, well, let me figure out
- 26:07Speaker 6: what is this that he want from me?
- 26:09Speaker 7: What does he see?
- 26:09Speaker 6: What did he place inside of me that is so
- 26:11Speaker 6: great that he would choose me. He ain't call her out.
- 26:14Speaker 6: She's older than me, she's like ten, ten, twelve, thirteen
- 26:17Speaker 6: years older than me. Why he ain't call her out?
- 26:20Speaker 6: But why me?
- 26:23Speaker 1: The second thing that keep louse if I keep we can,
- 26:27Speaker 1: The second thing that keeps coming up, like the mind
- 26:30Speaker 1: you mindset you had because you've verbally said that I
- 26:33Speaker 1: was an atheist, like I was like, but I think
- 26:35Speaker 1: my mind is blown from you being with somebody said
- 26:38Speaker 1: that I have a relationship with God. The relationship with
- 26:41Speaker 1: God was kind of like, Okay, it's interesting because you're
- 26:44Speaker 1: living this lifestyle.
- 26:45Speaker 3: However, and I'm an atheist, I don't care.
- 26:47Speaker 7: Yeah, but now that.
- 26:50Speaker 6: I do not care, I'm gonna get what I'm here
- 26:52Speaker 6: to get what I want, what I need, not serving
- 26:55Speaker 6: your your God.
- 26:55Speaker 7: I don't care nothing about your God.
- 26:57Speaker 1: So how does an atheist become curious about a god
- 26:59Speaker 1: that get doing well?
- 27:00Speaker 6: She asked me to go to church with her, and
- 27:01Speaker 6: I was doing that out of relationship with her, and
- 27:04Speaker 6: here I am in relation. See, this is why the
- 27:07Speaker 6: power of relationship power relationship and it can go both ways.
- 27:10Speaker 7: It can go both ways.
- 27:11Speaker 6: This one so happened to lead me into a place
- 27:16Speaker 6: that opened up my eyes concerning God.
- 27:19Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 27:20Speaker 6: So yeah, so I did it only you know, just
- 27:23Speaker 6: really just following her, not because I felt like I
- 27:26Speaker 6: was going to get anything when I was in there.
- 27:28Speaker 3: This is this, No, but this is so powerful. This
- 27:30Speaker 3: was ray you you good over there. This is so
- 27:34Speaker 3: powerful because.
- 27:37Speaker 1: We just had ministers training or whatever, and it was
- 27:40Speaker 1: It's kind of touched on this base of being not
- 27:43Speaker 1: being a preacher, but being a minister, being in ministry,
- 27:47Speaker 1: because real ministry is embodying just like a livelihood, and
- 27:51Speaker 1: what she believed in was enough, her faith, her faith,
- 27:55Speaker 1: her measure of faith was enough to bring you to
- 27:59Speaker 1: a place where you could be exposed even more.
- 28:02Speaker 3: Like that is blowing my mind.
- 28:04Speaker 7: But here's the thing.
- 28:05Speaker 6: She ended up getting upset with God because she said
- 28:08Speaker 6: every time that she told somebody about God that they
- 28:12Speaker 6: would leave her and start following him.
- 28:17Speaker 3: So they really spoke to her guilt. Yeah.
- 28:19Speaker 6: Oh and now like guess what, now we're friends. She'd met,
- 28:22Speaker 6: she'd have met JD. She's not in a lifestyle anymore.
- 28:25Speaker 6: Her daughter have come to Prophetic Cohn. Like, yes, her
- 28:29Speaker 6: daughters a prophetic con followed me in ministry and everything
- 28:32Speaker 6: because they saw the life that I lived back then
- 28:35Speaker 6: with them, and they see the life that I that
- 28:38Speaker 6: I'm living right now in front of them, so they
- 28:41Speaker 6: know my process, so.
- 28:42Speaker 7: They know that this is real.
- 28:44Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, this is so good.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:46Speaker 6: And then even her son found me probably about two
- 28:49Speaker 6: years ago. He found me, I mean he did research
- 28:52Speaker 6: to locate me because he he's living in Texas to
- 28:56Speaker 6: just thank me for being the person that I was
- 28:59Speaker 6: to hear back then.
- 29:00Speaker 3: Wow.
- 29:01Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, appreciating the person that I am today. Yeah,
- 29:06Speaker 6: so my one decision it changed the whole family. And
- 29:09Speaker 6: so a lot of times, like we think that the
- 29:12Speaker 6: decision that God is, you know, pulling on us to
- 29:16Speaker 6: make that it's all about us. Like, no, it's not
- 29:18Speaker 6: about us. Like there's an army, there's a nation, there's
- 29:21Speaker 6: a family, there's one person that needs you to make
- 29:24Speaker 6: the right decisions so that they can follow God. So
- 29:28Speaker 6: it's not even about you. Like Jad and I we
- 29:30Speaker 6: were talking this morning, and we were saying, like, when
- 29:34Speaker 6: you make a decision, the enemy he's looking. He's trying
- 29:40Speaker 6: to distract you so much by just getting a foothold
- 29:45Speaker 6: into any area in your life, so that you would
- 29:49Speaker 6: never come into the full potential of who God had
- 29:53Speaker 6: called you to be. Like if he can just distract
- 29:55Speaker 6: you with you know, like maybe with this man, or
- 29:57Speaker 6: you know, distract you with this female.
- 30:00Speaker 7: Like if he can just distract you, that's all that
- 30:02Speaker 7: he need is to distract you.
- 30:04Speaker 6: Why because he wanted to divert you from operating purpose.
- 30:08Speaker 6: So if I were to continue that path, guess what,
- 30:11Speaker 6: I would not have been used in the magnitude in
- 30:14Speaker 6: which God is using me. And He's going to continue
- 30:16Speaker 6: to use me in Yeah, so it's not it's not
- 30:18Speaker 6: even about me. Like we have to get to a
- 30:20Speaker 6: place where we yield our life to God. And like
- 30:25Speaker 6: for me, like the life that I live, like this
- 30:27Speaker 6: life is not mine. And so that's why sometime and
- 30:30Speaker 6: I know you're on me about this about planning out
- 30:33Speaker 6: certain things, like it's hard for me to plan out
- 30:35Speaker 6: my life life for real, just ask. So it's hard
- 30:41Speaker 6: for me to plan out my life because my life
- 30:43Speaker 6: is so yielded to God. Now I just want to
- 30:46Speaker 6: please God. And so every day my life looks different,
- 30:50Speaker 6: it's not the same. Like I want to have free
- 30:53Speaker 6: time in my schedule so that I can navigate and
- 30:56Speaker 6: do what God called me to do without having to
- 30:59Speaker 6: think about what's on my calendar. So I am free
- 31:02Speaker 6: to live a life that's pleasing to God. I want
- 31:05Speaker 6: to obey God in every area of my life. I
- 31:07Speaker 6: didn't make all of those sacrifices. I didn't give up
- 31:10Speaker 6: all of that. I didn't go through this transition or
- 31:12Speaker 6: this process not to continue to figure out how God
- 31:16Speaker 6: wants to use me on this earth.
- 31:18Speaker 7: It's not about me, it's not about you.
- 31:19Speaker 1: Just it's not about me. You're right, Yeah, I'm second.
- 31:23Speaker 1: That's what It's a what do you call it? A
- 31:26Speaker 1: movement called I Am sicking, And that's what their biggest
- 31:29Speaker 1: thing was, Like it's not about you, and I think
- 31:31Speaker 1: that's the hardest part.
- 31:32Speaker 3: Like that's the part like killing your flavor.
- 31:37Speaker 7: It hurts so bad.
- 31:38Speaker 3: I'm hurting now.
- 31:40Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you after this because this ain't the
- 31:41Speaker 1: episode about the revelation that God gave me just this
- 31:45Speaker 1: week because I was feeling It's like, God, I feel
- 31:47Speaker 1: this connected. Like I'm feeling this connected and I asked
- 31:50Speaker 1: for it, and baby, he gave it to.
- 31:52Speaker 3: Me through the Woman of God. I was like, oh,
- 31:56Speaker 3: this is what I've been dealing with. Oh okay, bet,
- 31:58Speaker 3: let's go tell you that later.
- 32:00Speaker 7: But I ain't read.
- 32:03Speaker 1: Yeah going through but I think that I think you're
- 32:08Speaker 1: you're talking so good, but the connection to your livelihood.
- 32:11Speaker 1: One of the things that you said that they you
- 32:13Speaker 1: thought they were church people were was it liars and broke? Yeah,
- 32:17Speaker 1: they were mean, mean and broke.
- 32:19Speaker 3: Let's get to the broke car, because that's one thing
- 32:21Speaker 3: you not.
- 32:28Speaker 7: That that one thing you.
- 32:33Speaker 3: Would you consider.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Have you always had this drive to execute in entrepreneurship?
- 32:39Speaker 1: How did you develop that, like what was what was
- 32:42Speaker 1: your relationship?
- 32:42Speaker 7: Feel like I just grew up in it.
- 32:45Speaker 6: Ever since I was in middle school, I was the
- 32:47Speaker 6: candy lady. I would I would bring candy to school
- 32:50Speaker 6: to sell. I started doing hair when I was in
- 32:53Speaker 6: high school. Like I always just I don't know, I
- 32:56Speaker 6: just always had some type of motivation to make money
- 32:59Speaker 6: because I saw, like how my parents they lived. My
- 33:02Speaker 6: parents were extremely hard workers, which I feel like I
- 33:06Speaker 6: got that from there. My dad he worked at his
- 33:09Speaker 6: job for over thirty three years. My mom she did
- 33:12Speaker 6: a lot of what I would consider now like household work,
- 33:15Speaker 6: but she worked extremely hard. But they never, you know,
- 33:19Speaker 6: got to the next level. They never owned real estate,
- 33:21Speaker 6: you know, like they always was in a struggle.
- 33:24Speaker 7: And I didn't want that.
- 33:25Speaker 6: So, you know, my goal was to figure out how
- 33:29Speaker 6: to make money.
- 33:30Speaker 7: Now here's the thing. I was a lover of money.
- 33:34Speaker 3: Talk about it.
- 33:35Speaker 6: I was a lover of money. I didn't understand that
- 33:37Speaker 6: money was a tool for purpose. Now I understand that
- 33:40Speaker 6: money is a tool for purpose. But initially I was
- 33:43Speaker 6: a lover for money, which means that I engaged in
- 33:45Speaker 6: various activities that you know, I got in trouble with
- 33:48Speaker 6: the laws several times, engaging in several activities because I
- 33:53Speaker 6: was a love it was twofold, a lover of money,
- 33:56Speaker 6: because I knew the lifestyle that money could provide, but
- 33:58Speaker 6: also at the same time was in survival mode. I
- 34:01Speaker 6: didn't have anybody to depend on and I had to
- 34:04Speaker 6: look out for me, and so I was in those
- 34:07Speaker 6: various activities for being the lover money because I saw
- 34:11Speaker 6: the lifestyle that it could provide, but also survival mode too.
- 34:14Speaker 1: There's a prayer that you said you prayed regarding God
- 34:18Speaker 1: as far as like, I guess accepting the call if
- 34:23Speaker 1: that makes it like you can correct me, but accepting
- 34:26Speaker 1: the call in regards to hey, I need to be
- 34:28Speaker 1: able to make this money. Yeah, I don't want to
- 34:30Speaker 1: be you know, I don't want to be broke. What
- 34:32Speaker 1: was that transition like for you of being a level
- 34:35Speaker 1: looking at it as being a level of money to
- 34:37Speaker 1: using it as a tool for Yeah, so you.
- 34:40Speaker 6: Know, initially, when you're a lover for money, you try
- 34:43Speaker 6: to figure out how how you can use money for
- 34:47Speaker 6: your purpose instead of for kingdom purposes, and so like
- 34:51Speaker 6: if it's all about paying your bills, it's all about
- 34:54Speaker 6: you know, like how you're going to eat, how you're
- 34:57Speaker 6: going to survive?
- 34:58Speaker 7: Like you have become lover money.
- 35:00Speaker 6: Money is a tool that is used to serve you
- 35:03Speaker 6: so that you can continue to do kingdom purpose. And
- 35:05Speaker 6: it's used to serve others as well. And so once
- 35:08Speaker 6: I had that revelation that, okay, it is a tool.
- 35:12Speaker 6: It is a tool that I need. You know what
- 35:14Speaker 6: I'm saying. It's almost like if I was building out
- 35:16Speaker 6: this desk right now. In order for this desk to
- 35:18Speaker 6: be fully uh fully executed, you have to use a
- 35:22Speaker 6: tool in order for it to be fully executed. So
- 35:25Speaker 6: money is a tool to help with you know, to
- 35:28Speaker 6: help with vision, to help with dreams. And so now
- 35:31Speaker 6: I realize that. So whether I have the money or
- 35:34Speaker 6: God put me in the company of someone that has
- 35:36Speaker 6: the money, it's still it's still a tool that we
- 35:38Speaker 6: used to serve kingdom purposes.
- 35:41Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell on myself this free okay, So we're
- 35:46Speaker 3: gonna use me as example.
- 35:48Speaker 7: Use you as an example. Sit up in my safe exam.
- 35:51Speaker 3: I'm about to sit up.
- 35:52Speaker 6: Hold on, it's not my look when when when when
- 35:56Speaker 6: just asked? It's talking to me and I have to
- 35:57Speaker 6: get serious. This this is how I look this ill
- 35:59Speaker 6: be on a.
- 36:02Speaker 3: Screenshot. We'll do together.
- 36:06Speaker 7: I'm like, I gotta I have to brace myself for Westcombe.
- 36:10Speaker 1: It's not that. But there's a ray got onto me
- 36:13Speaker 1: the other day about this. So the yes, about the
- 36:17Speaker 1: whole forty forty people with twenty dollars. Okay, So I'm
- 36:23Speaker 1: gonna tell on myself and desert where are probably gonna
- 36:25Speaker 1: change chime in?
- 36:26Speaker 3: So there, I've shared that there's visions.
- 36:31Speaker 1: And missions that I feel like God really wants to
- 36:33Speaker 1: take just as to like AKA the tour this year.
- 36:37Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm like, I'm in the transition.
- 36:41Speaker 7: Okay, Yes, I'm in the transition.
- 36:45Speaker 3: I am a believer.
- 36:47Speaker 1: I am struggling right now with with the Okay, God,
- 36:50Speaker 1: you want me to do this, but you already know
- 36:52Speaker 1: this is what I have right now, this is all
- 36:54Speaker 1: I have. And I do believe God is a miracle worker.
- 36:57Speaker 1: I've seen science musical. I do that this is a
- 37:00Speaker 1: This is a different type of struggle though, because there's
- 37:03Speaker 1: a I'm finding out that my lack of trust also
- 37:08Speaker 1: presents itself in my lack of ask And so has
- 37:12Speaker 1: there ever been a like how did you when you
- 37:15Speaker 1: became a believer out of let's talk about the basement.
- 37:18Speaker 3: From the basement to the billions.
- 37:19Speaker 1: Oh how that translation translation look like as an entrepreneur
- 37:30Speaker 1: from the basement to the billions? Because I'm like lost,
- 37:34Speaker 1: I'm like, that's this big picture of God. I don't
- 37:36Speaker 1: know how to I don't see how to get there
- 37:37Speaker 1: because I don't have it. This this is an empty
- 37:40Speaker 1: right now.
- 37:40Speaker 6: So if it's empty, that means that someone else has it,
- 37:43Speaker 6: and that means that you have to ask. Man, God
- 37:45Speaker 6: put me through a season where I had to ask.
- 37:47Speaker 6: And the only reason that I was not asking before
- 37:50Speaker 6: is because there was pride inside of me. And so
- 37:52Speaker 6: God was like, yo, I got to get rid of
- 37:54Speaker 6: that pride, because yeah, you're called to be a billionaire.
- 37:57Speaker 6: But I may never put the bills in your hand,
- 38:00Speaker 6: but I may put you in the company of billionaires
- 38:03Speaker 6: that can help finance the dream and the vision that
- 38:06Speaker 6: I've given you. So like, there are certain things that
- 38:09Speaker 6: you're just gonna have to ask for, meaning that you
- 38:12Speaker 6: need to put sponsorship packages together, donation letters.
- 38:15Speaker 7: Heck, you need to just come out and.
- 38:16Speaker 6: Just ask, just ask, just like Ya'll be making it.
- 38:21Speaker 6: See so STILP, I guess in my mind and so
- 38:23Speaker 6: I gets and it's building that all of that just
- 38:27Speaker 6: so the reason the reason why you struggle, the reason
- 38:29Speaker 6: why you struggle is is because of your lack of
- 38:33Speaker 6: faith in that area. And so until you conquer that
- 38:37Speaker 6: with your asking, then your barrels will be empty.
- 38:43Speaker 3: In my mind, I have to work.
- 38:44Speaker 1: I I know, if I work for it, and it's like, okay,
- 38:48Speaker 1: cool that, then nobody is okay, maybe maybe this is
- 38:52Speaker 1: a trigger, this is coming up.
- 38:54Speaker 3: Okay, this is real moment, y'all. Well be on the
- 38:56Speaker 3: phone like this, Yeah, this is real.
- 38:59Speaker 1: So okay, So what just came up is like the
- 39:02Speaker 1: moments of you know, being with Daddy and having to
- 39:05Speaker 1: ask or having people do stuff for us, and you know,
- 39:08Speaker 1: it's like and then I finally got the point where
- 39:11Speaker 1: I could really do for myself.
- 39:13Speaker 3: And now I'm back at that point of damn, I
- 39:16Speaker 3: got it.
- 39:17Speaker 7: You know that it's just another It's just another level.
- 39:20Speaker 6: For each level, the level that God is calling us to,
- 39:22Speaker 6: it requires something something different.
- 39:25Speaker 7: So what God?
- 39:26Speaker 6: So what God had to show me? He was like, Yo,
- 39:27Speaker 6: I'm about to show you that I am your provider.
- 39:30Speaker 6: And so by God being the provider doesn't mean that
- 39:33Speaker 6: what you everything that you need comes from your abilities.
- 39:37Speaker 6: It comes from other people abilities as well. Like when,
- 39:40Speaker 6: what's the last time that y'all have a campaign going
- 39:42Speaker 6: on right now?
- 39:44Speaker 3: Yes? Six, three sixty five?
- 39:45Speaker 6: Okay, three sixty five. What's the three sixty five campaign?
- 39:48Speaker 3: Yes, three sixty five.
- 39:49Speaker 7: Yes, three sixty five.
- 39:50Speaker 1: Oh, that's the mark. That's the campaign, the commitment that
- 39:52Speaker 1: we have. Are you talking about like a financial campaign?
- 39:55Speaker 3: What we did?
- 39:56Speaker 1: Like, yes, so we were doing trying to get ready
- 39:59Speaker 1: for or you know, the la the LA opportunity. And
- 40:03Speaker 1: it was just asking forty people for twenty dollars.
- 40:07Speaker 3: Okay, and people you know they did it.
- 40:09Speaker 7: They did, But did you meet your goal?
- 40:11Speaker 3: Yes?
- 40:12Speaker 6: Okay?
- 40:14Speaker 3: So how Jessica I asked in text? But I did
- 40:18Speaker 3: ask I asked in text message. There's a this is
- 40:21Speaker 3: what we disagreed.
- 40:22Speaker 1: There's a ray put it on social media and also
- 40:26Speaker 1: shout out to Key on the show.
- 40:28Speaker 3: She from Texas. She asked me because she shared it.
- 40:32Speaker 1: I just I felt I felt a strong discomfort because
- 40:38Speaker 1: what's coming up right now? Ooh, I don't like that
- 40:41Speaker 1: I'm having this mom right now.
- 40:42Speaker 3: This is so this is like literally that I feel
- 40:50Speaker 3: like I still struggle with the idea that I have
- 40:53Speaker 3: something to offer.
- 40:54Speaker 6: Oh, Honney, you have so much to offer, Yeah, outside
- 40:59Speaker 6: of serving. Yeah, and I'm not even talking about no,
- 41:02Speaker 6: I'm just saying like for me, yeah, yeah, I'm not
- 41:04Speaker 6: even talking about with serving, I'm talking about just like
- 41:08Speaker 6: who you, who you are in general, Like.
- 41:12Speaker 3: Just as you got it.
- 41:15Speaker 7: That's what I want you to know.
- 41:16Speaker 3: Like you you got it.
- 41:19Speaker 6: Like, let me ask you this, and what capacity in
- 41:21Speaker 6: which you feel like you lack outside of serving?
- 41:24Speaker 7: Well, what do you feel like you don't have.
- 41:28Speaker 1: I mean tangibly, not more internally, Well obviously confidence don't
- 41:40Speaker 1: see that's it.
- 41:42Speaker 6: See you can't That's what I'm saying. That's right. So
- 41:45Speaker 6: that means like, so you really don't have a problem.
- 41:48Speaker 6: It's just a mindset you don't have. You really don't
- 41:51Speaker 6: have a problem. You just have a mindset issue. Yeah, yeah,
- 41:56Speaker 6: it's just it's just mindset. Because who wouldn't want to
- 42:00Speaker 6: do something for.
- 42:00Speaker 3: Just ask So I'm gonna I'm gonna try something after this.
- 42:10Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna try you know what what you
- 42:12Speaker 1: had did with the campaign, with what we're gonna see,
- 42:17Speaker 1: I mean, well I did, I did share it, but
- 42:20Speaker 1: like in my own words, because I was talking to
- 42:22Speaker 1: Jala and she was like, I was trying to figure
- 42:24Speaker 1: out why you didn't share, Jessica, But does A Ray did?
- 42:30Speaker 6: Because I didn't even I didn't see it. I'm just
- 42:32Speaker 6: now hearing about it now.
- 42:34Speaker 2: I know.
- 42:39Speaker 3: We'll talking about that, Aline, because okay, let's go, let's
- 42:45Speaker 3: talk about that. Let's do so much.
- 42:47Speaker 1: Like it's like, all right, I'm in this stage right
- 42:51Speaker 1: and I'll be like, Okay, I don't want you to
- 42:55Speaker 1: ever think that that's why I'm here, Like I don't
- 43:00Speaker 1: want to ever come off as like a user or
- 43:02Speaker 1: abuse the grace Jessica.
- 43:06Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to polgy. I'm sorry. We're gonna be
- 43:10Speaker 3: real right now. Now, We're gonna be real.
- 43:12Speaker 1: But I think the the thing I think the problem
- 43:17Speaker 1: I have with Jessica is that because the issue is
- 43:23Speaker 1: that Jessica still thinks that her work and her value
- 43:26Speaker 1: is tied to what she does for people, right, yes, no,
- 43:35Speaker 1: that's how it's exemplified. Yeah, okay, And so I get
- 43:40Speaker 1: so frustrated, like I want to pick this mic up
- 43:42Speaker 1: and throw it across the room right now, because Jessica
- 43:44Speaker 1: is amazing and just Jessica being Jessica, like, she wake
- 43:47Speaker 1: up amazing, you know what I'm saying. And it's a
- 43:52Speaker 1: it's a mindset shift that has to take place, and
- 43:55Speaker 1: it's happening.
- 43:56Speaker 3: And I told her, I said, God is literally using it.
- 43:58Speaker 1: Yeah, this platform is is blessing people, but he's also
- 44:01Speaker 1: using it the process you in different ways that you
- 44:03Speaker 1: don't recognize. So the fact that she didn't want to
- 44:06Speaker 1: put on social media, I'm like, but the Lord has
- 44:09Speaker 1: a plan, and obviously there's resources for that plan, but
- 44:15Speaker 1: how we're gonna get them if we don't ask for it?
- 44:18Speaker 1: And this is me and this is me talking, and
- 44:20Speaker 1: I have a hard time to ask you, right, you know,
- 44:23Speaker 1: but I understand it's bigger than me. I'm like, well,
- 44:25Speaker 1: little how it's gonna happen? Well, you let me, let
- 44:27Speaker 1: me ask the people then, and I put it out there.
- 44:28Speaker 1: And what happened, Jessica, We could We did well, Like
- 44:33Speaker 1: in the first forty eight hours, we did well, and
- 44:35Speaker 1: people have still been you know, I got a changing
- 44:38Speaker 1: they on it.
- 44:40Speaker 3: So I just love how just as it's just just asking.
- 44:45Speaker 1: Yah.
- 44:45Speaker 6: So like here's so when you when you ask for
- 44:48Speaker 6: ask people to sew into something, it doesn't mean that
- 44:51Speaker 6: your barrels are really empty.
- 44:53Speaker 7: You have you have T D.
- 44:55Speaker 6: Jake's, Oprah Winfrey, like all of them, like maybe asking
- 44:59Speaker 6: people to donate or to give, and it's not because
- 45:01Speaker 6: their barrels are empty, like their ascription a Bible. Paul said,
- 45:05Speaker 6: He said that you know, he creates this opportunity so
- 45:08Speaker 6: that you can give, to give unto your account, Like
- 45:11Speaker 6: the more that you give, the more will be given
- 45:13Speaker 6: back to you.
- 45:14Speaker 7: So it was creating.
- 45:15Speaker 6: It's creating an opportunity like when we did Birmingham Blanket Bondle,
- 45:20Speaker 6: Like we could have just bought everything ourselves. But you
- 45:22Speaker 6: have to create opportunities for other people to share in
- 45:26Speaker 6: the partnership, to sharing the blessing, to be a part
- 45:29Speaker 6: of what you're doing. So it doesn't you don't have
- 45:32Speaker 6: to tie it to you being empty. You don't have
- 45:35Speaker 6: to tie it to where you are financially. Yeah, you
- 45:39Speaker 6: need to just think about Yo, this is an opportunity
- 45:41Speaker 6: that I think it's so dope for other people to
- 45:43Speaker 6: be a part of.
- 45:45Speaker 1: But you that last line that, yeah, that I think
- 45:50Speaker 1: I think that's another layer of it.
- 45:54Speaker 3: But okay, can we get off me now?
- 45:57Speaker 6: I guess.
- 46:00Speaker 1: They're like, Hi, I'm like talking about right now, talking
- 46:04Speaker 1: about mom, Mom, we love you, Jessica. I felt my
- 46:13Speaker 1: heart was just like gesus, this we got this on camera,
- 46:16Speaker 1: like no, this is real, this is this is real life. No,
- 46:20Speaker 1: so wraw so wrong. So I don't want to thank you,
- 46:24Speaker 1: thank you, like let's talk about that though, Like people,
- 46:30Speaker 1: I know when I first met you, which was the
- 46:32Speaker 1: act of God, Like I, I'll tell the story real quick. No,
- 46:37Speaker 1: I like it when you tell the story you Okay,
- 46:40Speaker 1: I'll tell my part and then you tell your part.
- 46:43Speaker 3: Okay. So I was dropping. I had just met her.
- 46:46Speaker 1: I had a ministry or whatever called naturally devoted, and
- 46:51Speaker 1: at that point we had the I Do conference and
- 46:54Speaker 1: I just had gotten introduced to her by a friend
- 46:57Speaker 1: at the time that was strongly connected to her in
- 47:00Speaker 1: that season.
- 47:01Speaker 3: And I was like, man, where is this, Where does
- 47:03Speaker 3: this lady come from? So fast forward?
- 47:06Speaker 1: She does the conference, lay everybody out, okay, like my
- 47:10Speaker 1: whole family there, lay everybody out. I was like, I
- 47:12Speaker 1: gotta say connected. So I didn't know how that was
- 47:14Speaker 1: going to present itself. So I at that time, I
- 47:17Speaker 1: was living in Pensacola, Florida, and I was driving down
- 47:20Speaker 1: to Birmingham, and I was on my way to my
- 47:22Speaker 1: sister's house. My sister's exit was the same exit as
- 47:27Speaker 1: one of the businesses that she owned, and so I
- 47:31Speaker 1: was like okay, and literally I passed probably like two
- 47:35Speaker 1: or three exes before. I was at two or three
- 47:37Speaker 1: exes before the ex I was gonna get off of
- 47:40Speaker 1: and I hear the Lord say stop at her store,
- 47:42Speaker 1: stop at the Peaks. What was it the Peaks?
- 47:45Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm I'm hearing that, and now this is
- 47:48Speaker 3: a time where I'm like.
- 47:52Speaker 1: Just understanding that I even hear the voice of God,
- 47:55Speaker 1: Like I didn't even really understand it right, And so
- 47:57Speaker 1: I was like, Lord, if I go here and this
- 48:00Speaker 1: lady not you, I'm gonna know that I'm crazy and
- 48:04Speaker 1: I don't hear you.
- 48:05Speaker 3: I specifically told him that I get there.
- 48:09Speaker 1: She I said, oh my gosh, she's here. So I
- 48:14Speaker 1: am immediately nervous. Now I'm gonna little her take over
- 48:17Speaker 1: the store.
- 48:17Speaker 6: And so I remember you coming in the store like
- 48:20Speaker 6: it was like a little.
- 48:21Speaker 7: Mouse like like this, and I was like, oh, hey,
- 48:26Speaker 7: what are you, what are you doing here?
- 48:28Speaker 4: She was like, I don't know.
- 48:30Speaker 6: The Lord told me to come. I was like, well,
- 48:32Speaker 6: come on, let's let's see what the Lord is saying.
- 48:35Speaker 6: Let's see why the Lord we did not think get
- 48:37Speaker 6: out to day.
- 48:38Speaker 3: We just said there, she just talked.
- 48:40Speaker 1: She I mean, she's searching, she's searching, trying to like okay,
- 48:43Speaker 1: and she like no, like she's somebody who has taught
- 48:47Speaker 1: me to.
- 48:47Speaker 3: Walk in the prophetic ramp. And we both looking like
- 48:51Speaker 3: I think we even went to J. C. Pitty that day.
- 48:54Speaker 3: I'm like, why are we here?
- 48:56Speaker 7: But we didn't know that it was going to be here.
- 49:00Speaker 1: So at the same a year later, probably at least
- 49:04Speaker 1: a year later, on Christmas Day. I'll never forget on
- 49:09Speaker 1: Christmas Day, I'll never forget I had witnessed her. You know,
- 49:14Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. I had witness calling everybody else
- 49:19Speaker 1: spiritual daughter, right so, and I say everybody else, I
- 49:22Speaker 1: don't say that like it was a whole bunch of people.
- 49:24Speaker 3: It was enough people for me to be like, all right, Lord,
- 49:26Speaker 3: I must not be, you know.
- 49:28Speaker 1: The spiritual daughter, And so shout out to Apostle Howel,
- 49:34Speaker 1: Apostle Howel. He had a conversation with me and he
- 49:37Speaker 1: checked me. He was like, so, who is Coach D
- 49:40Speaker 1: in your life?
- 49:41Speaker 3: And I got defensive, like I just I just rolls
- 49:44Speaker 3: up on him. I was like whatever.
- 49:47Speaker 1: And basically in that conversation where he was trying to
- 49:49Speaker 1: get it is when you don't position people properly in
- 49:52Speaker 1: your life, you don't get the benefits of what that
- 49:56Speaker 1: that position is.
- 49:57Speaker 3: And so he was like what she said. I was like,
- 50:00Speaker 3: Jessica is a spiritual mother, and I knew it was
- 50:04Speaker 3: like something just sunk in.
- 50:06Speaker 1: Like I was just like, oh, I'm scared because I
- 50:09Speaker 1: don't know, it'll probably rejection. I was scared that maybe
- 50:13Speaker 1: she hadn't heard the Lord on that right, like it
- 50:17Speaker 1: wasn't confirmed. And so I remember she called me to
- 50:19Speaker 1: wish me a merry Christmas, and in that moment, I said, hey,
- 50:23Speaker 1: I didn't talk to something, talk to you about something.
- 50:25Speaker 3: I'm laughing because I'm so just laughing. I'm like, what
- 50:29Speaker 3: is so funny?
- 50:30Speaker 6: That's why she laughing.
- 50:33Speaker 7: I was like, I was so because I didn't know
- 50:36Speaker 7: what was So.
- 50:38Speaker 1: I was laughing because I was so nervous, and I
- 50:40Speaker 1: was like, oh, I think the Lord. I mean, you
- 50:42Speaker 1: don't have to agree with you. I think you should
- 50:44Speaker 1: pray about it. I mean I'm prefacing like I'm trying
- 50:46Speaker 1: to water it down. I said, I think I think
- 50:49Speaker 1: you're my spiritual mother, but if not, it's okay, I
- 50:51Speaker 1: still want to serve you. You know, I'm preparing myself
- 50:55Speaker 1: for rejection, and so she laughs again. She goes, Jessica,
- 51:02Speaker 1: I didn't think I would have to announce something that
- 51:05Speaker 1: was already understood, and I ball.
- 51:08Speaker 3: Out crying, like I'm crying.
- 51:10Speaker 1: I'm just crying because I don't I didn't understand this
- 51:14Speaker 1: spiritual mom spiritual father thing and all this stuff like that.
- 51:18Speaker 1: But to put a language, it's not even a title,
- 51:21Speaker 1: it's language to what was happening. Really kind of like
- 51:25Speaker 1: open the floodgates our relationships. So can you can you
- 51:28Speaker 1: explain the responsibility of like that, what that rem looks like,
- 51:33Speaker 1: spiritual parents, spiritual sons and daughters, and why that's so impactful.
- 51:39Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 51:39Speaker 6: So I look at being your spiritual mom as someone
- 51:43Speaker 6: that provides guidance with some knowledge and understanding to helping
- 51:49Speaker 6: you to be who God have called you to be.
- 51:51Speaker 6: It's really not it's really not even about me. I
- 51:54Speaker 6: just feel like I just stand as a conduit to
- 51:56Speaker 6: help you operate in purpose truthfully.
- 52:00Speaker 1: And some people know, but some people I've heard some
- 52:03Speaker 1: people say that they are not in agreeance with the
- 52:06Speaker 1: idea of the spiritual parents because it's weird. I'm not
- 52:10Speaker 1: trying to be your mama. I'm not trying to be
- 52:12Speaker 1: a dad, which she has made it very clear.
- 52:15Speaker 3: I am not trying to be your bother.
- 52:18Speaker 1: I love I.
- 52:19Speaker 7: Love just because parents. I love them.
- 52:22Speaker 6: You know, me and your mom we hadn't even you
- 52:24Speaker 6: and I haven't even talked about me and your mom.
- 52:26Speaker 7: We had a good time the other day, said she was.
- 52:30Speaker 3: Ve yes, no.
- 52:32Speaker 1: But I wanted to address that because I think some
- 52:34Speaker 1: I don't want to assume that the viewers really understood
- 52:37Speaker 1: when I say, oh, that's my spiritual mom. And this
- 52:39Speaker 1: is not the first time I've said, oh my spiritual mom.
- 52:41Speaker 1: You always come up in conversation. You know that because
- 52:43Speaker 1: you can watch them. So but I be like my
- 52:45Speaker 1: spiritual mom need but just to kind of give like
- 52:48Speaker 1: a understanding of that. But also I want us to
- 52:52Speaker 1: lead into the idea of the prophetic realm. You said
- 52:57Speaker 1: that it was so powerful and that's why you believe
- 52:59Speaker 1: in it so strong. Can you give us an understanding
- 53:02Speaker 1: of what that what prophecy in the prophetic is and
- 53:07Speaker 1: how to manage it will.
- 53:09Speaker 6: Yeah, so I didn't really I really didn't understand like
- 53:12Speaker 6: what prophetic meant, or I hadn't really seen it operate
- 53:16Speaker 6: like in church, or I haven't seen it operate in people.
- 53:19Speaker 6: But I knew in that moment when God was delivering
- 53:22Speaker 6: me and bringing me out that this lady she was,
- 53:26Speaker 6: she was standing as the voice of God. And really
- 53:29Speaker 6: the prophetic is standing when someone speaks on the behalf
- 53:33Speaker 6: of God. And it's usually something to help to edify,
- 53:38Speaker 6: to encourage, to lead you to a place from here
- 53:43Speaker 6: to there. It actually provides guidance, It helps with confirmation,
- 53:48Speaker 6: it helps with deliverance, it helps with understanding wisdom, like
- 53:54Speaker 6: it's really a correction sometimes like it's really just a
- 53:58Speaker 6: guidance because sometimes people they do need confirmation as to
- 54:04Speaker 6: what God is calling them to do.
- 54:07Speaker 7: And you see that in the Bible a whole lot.
- 54:10Speaker 6: I remember when God told me that I'm not just
- 54:12Speaker 6: a prophetic being, I'm God's prophet. And so when God
- 54:15Speaker 6: took me on a journey and helping me to understand
- 54:18Speaker 6: like who I was, I had heard it for so long.
- 54:21Speaker 6: So you have to remember I didn't come from the
- 54:23Speaker 6: church world, so I didn't understand what it meant to
- 54:25Speaker 6: be a prophet or even to have a prophetic gift.
- 54:29Speaker 6: And people would say it to me everywhere that I went.
- 54:32Speaker 6: It didn't matter if they were black or white. I
- 54:34Speaker 6: was sitting in the front order back. People were prophesied
- 54:36Speaker 6: to me that I was God's prophet, but I never
- 54:39Speaker 6: accepted it until I went through this whole experience with
- 54:43Speaker 6: God that was about two weeks, and during that time
- 54:45Speaker 6: God answered every question that I ever had about prophetic
- 54:49Speaker 6: because during that time I was connected to prophets who
- 54:52Speaker 6: knew telephone numbers and all of that, and I was like, like,
- 54:55Speaker 6: I don't know anybody telephone number and stuff like that.
- 54:58Speaker 6: And God took me to a scripture in First Samuel three,
- 55:00Speaker 6: and I stand on this, and he said when he
- 55:03Speaker 6: said to Samuel, he said that he said that everything
- 55:07Speaker 6: that you say, he said that I am going to
- 55:10Speaker 6: back it and the people would know that I'm with you.
- 55:13Speaker 6: And so from there that's like that was part of
- 55:17Speaker 6: my process. And after that, like I stand ten toes down.
- 55:21Speaker 6: I said that right, yeah, okay, down, okay, that you
- 55:26Speaker 6: know I am God's prophet, and so I know that
- 55:29Speaker 6: the prophetic that is definitely needed for a guidance, instruction,
- 55:33Speaker 6: wisdom counsel.
- 55:35Speaker 1: So for some people that like are just entering the
- 55:37Speaker 1: space of prophecies or whatever, how do they how can
- 55:41Speaker 1: they do like chicking balances, like to know that whatever's
- 55:43Speaker 1: being released from because people speak, they speak, and then
- 55:47Speaker 1: there are people that are accurate, but it still doesn't
- 55:49Speaker 1: come from God. You know what I'm saying, Like this
- 55:51Speaker 1: is why it's important for people to have a relationship
- 55:54Speaker 1: with God, because because a psychic is accurate, you may
- 55:58Speaker 1: reach your horoscope and believe in zodiac and all of that,
- 56:01Speaker 1: and that can have accuracy behind it, but it's the
- 56:04Speaker 1: spirit in which it is being relayed through. And so
- 56:08Speaker 1: there are scriptures in the Bible that talks about there's
- 56:10Speaker 1: one lady who was following up behind the disciples and
- 56:12Speaker 1: said these are true men of God.
- 56:15Speaker 6: And what she was saying was very accurate. However, she
- 56:17Speaker 6: had the spirit of divination. She had the wrong spirit
- 56:21Speaker 6: in her that was activating those gifts, and so like
- 56:24Speaker 6: in that moment, the disciples they got so tired of
- 56:27Speaker 6: her they turned around and rebuked her. But watch this,
- 56:29Speaker 6: her masters were mad at the disciples because they could.
- 56:33Speaker 7: No longer make money off of her gifts.
- 56:38Speaker 6: This is so they were mad because that gift that
- 56:43Speaker 6: she had that they were upset that they could no
- 56:49Speaker 6: longer use it for their benefit.
- 56:54Speaker 7: So it's not about so.
- 56:55Speaker 6: I think a lot of times that now we're in
- 56:57Speaker 6: a time and age where people like they don't care
- 57:02Speaker 6: what source it comes from as long as they receive
- 57:05Speaker 6: a word. So it doesn't matter what fruit, what spirit,
- 57:08Speaker 6: what door is being open. They don't care if somebody
- 57:11Speaker 6: is reading ouisi board tearor cards, if there are being
- 57:18Speaker 6: a psychic and all that, they don't care about that.
- 57:20Speaker 6: But I'm telling you, like the spirit behind who's delivering
- 57:23Speaker 6: a word.
- 57:24Speaker 7: To you, it matters.
- 57:25Speaker 6: It matters because what happens is is that it opens
- 57:28Speaker 6: your life to a demonic rim that you may not
- 57:32Speaker 6: initially began to trace. But eventually that enemy is coming
- 57:37Speaker 6: in and he is going to like your life is
- 57:40Speaker 6: gonna be turned upside down and you're gonna wonder like, wait,
- 57:44Speaker 6: I'm working so hard and I don't have any fruit
- 57:46Speaker 6: for my life.
- 57:47Speaker 7: I'm doing this, I'm doing that. What happened, yo, It
- 57:49Speaker 7: could be the.
- 57:50Speaker 6: Spirit behind the person that you allowed to speak over
- 57:53Speaker 6: your life because you are.
- 57:55Speaker 7: Hungry for a word instead of being hungry for God.
- 58:00Speaker 3: That's so good.
- 58:00Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so good because it's the accuracy is like
- 58:05Speaker 1: what people defend. Yeah, oh they knew, they knew. Anybody
- 58:08Speaker 1: can have a word of knowledge. Yeah, but they can't.
- 58:11Speaker 1: Like the Enemy, he spoke right concerning Jesus. He spoke
- 58:16Speaker 1: right concerning him. But it was the.
- 58:18Speaker 6: Spirit, it was his intention behind that accuracy, because he
- 58:23Speaker 6: wanted Jesus to yield his gifts to him, you know
- 58:27Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Like he wanted he wanted to take
- 58:30Speaker 6: the place of God. Yeah, and so like like the enemy,
- 58:34Speaker 6: he know the word. That's why you gotta test the
- 58:37Speaker 6: spirit by the spirit to see if it be of God.
- 58:40Speaker 6: Like you gotta check the fruit. You gotta check the
- 58:42Speaker 6: fruit of somebody's life. You know, you gotta check the
- 58:46Speaker 6: fruit of their life, of their practices, of their beliefs
- 58:52Speaker 6: before you Just my thing is this, like if you're
- 58:55Speaker 6: anxious for a word, then you don't need you don't
- 58:58Speaker 6: need to be seeking nobody but God because that anxiousness
- 59:01Speaker 6: for a word or you know, will you pray with me? Hey,
- 59:05Speaker 6: what do you hearing the Lord say concerning me? And
- 59:08Speaker 6: all of that you better go to the word because
- 59:10Speaker 6: those type questions, when you start seeking out the flesh
- 59:13Speaker 6: for them, it opens up the I mean, it opened
- 59:18Speaker 6: up a world that you may.
- 59:19Speaker 7: Not even be ready for.
- 59:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 59:20Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so.
- 59:21Speaker 1: That's so good, real quick, coach, total when you say,
- 59:25Speaker 1: check the fruit of the person that's giving the word,
- 59:28Speaker 1: or if it's somebody that you don't necessarily know, like that,
- 59:31Speaker 1: like what does that? What does that look like? Because
- 59:33Speaker 1: I've heard people say that, like check the fruit, like
- 59:35Speaker 1: what is what is the fruit? We talk about apples
- 59:37Speaker 1: and oranges or grape or you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 59:40Speaker 1: what does that look like?
- 59:40Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 59:41Speaker 6: So like for me, so let's say if someone comes
- 59:43Speaker 6: and speak a prophetic word, speak a prophetic word to me,
- 59:48Speaker 6: and what I'm going to do is like I hear
- 59:50Speaker 6: the word, but I'm going to take this word back
- 59:53Speaker 6: to God like in prayer, Like I'm praying over this word,
- 59:56Speaker 6: you know, I'm trying to see if this word aligns
- 59:59Speaker 6: with God is showing me what He have told me
- 1:00:01Speaker 6: in the past. Does this word conflict with what his
- 1:00:05Speaker 6: words say? Is their scripture reference to what this word
- 1:00:09Speaker 6: is saying? Like That's that's how I that's how I'm
- 1:00:12Speaker 6: being a fruit inspector. Yeah, I'm being a fruit inspector
- 1:00:16Speaker 6: by going back to my Master, back to my God
- 1:00:19Speaker 6: concerning this word. And God will show me whether or
- 1:00:22Speaker 6: not this person, you know, with your intentions, your motives,
- 1:00:25Speaker 6: like what spirit that they're operating under.
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: That's so good.
- 1:00:28Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: My thing is this, if we get in the Word
- 1:00:31Speaker 6: for real, you will receive so many prophetic messages yourself
- 1:00:36Speaker 6: concerning your identity, your lifestyle, your money, like it doesn't matter,
- 1:00:40Speaker 6: like what you're struggling with. Like in the Word, you
- 1:00:43Speaker 6: will receive exactly what you need.
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: That now that it's the truth is true, it is
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: the truth because that's what we you. Yeah, I mean
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: when you can't, you can't.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: And one of the things I love that you taught us,
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: Yeah you taught us this, I said, Yeah, you taught
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: us you can't be prophesying without knowing the words, like
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: you don't. You don't. And so if there is no
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: especially when you walk in in this Christian in a
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: walk of faith right and this kingdom lifestyle, you have
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: to know the Word not only to edify or to digest,
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: but to protect you. And so when you do that,
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: you're not able to digest. God would block, won't even
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: allow people to come to you. But when you're open,
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: you're able to receive accuracy and not what God wants
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: to release you because it could be accuracy at the
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: wrong time because they ain't under somebody covering.
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: They've been trained.
- 1:01:33Speaker 7: They've been And then.
- 1:01:34Speaker 6: Also the Bible said that we know in parts. So
- 1:01:37Speaker 6: a person is not prophesying everything to you. So you
- 1:01:41Speaker 6: take the part that you've heard, and then you go
- 1:01:43Speaker 6: back to God and God to give you the other part.
- 1:01:45Speaker 6: He'll give you clarity. He'll tell you not now that
- 1:01:48Speaker 6: word was not of my spirit, you know, like God
- 1:01:52Speaker 6: is your check and balances for life, like for your relationships,
- 1:01:55Speaker 6: for how you manage your money, like where you are
- 1:01:59Speaker 6: in your life.
- 1:01:59Speaker 7: Like the word God is really your check and balance.
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: That's so good.
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: I just heard the Lord say that He does not
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: make you pay for the word. Yea, he asks for
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: the sek ooh, your cost is the seek.
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: Seeking is free.
- 1:02:16Speaker 6: Research is free.
- 1:02:17Speaker 7: That's free.
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: And so if somebody is making you pay for something
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: that God gives freely, you should know something is wrong.
- 1:02:24Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why the Bible said to seek he first
- 1:02:26Speaker 6: with the Kingdom of God and his righteousness, and everything
- 1:02:29Speaker 6: that you desire, it will be given unto you. As
- 1:02:32Speaker 6: a matter of fact, you really don't even need a
- 1:02:34Speaker 6: prophetic word if you're seeking. He said that seeking first
- 1:02:37Speaker 6: the Kingdom of God righteousness, and he said everything that
- 1:02:39Speaker 6: you desire, He said, I'm just gonna give that to
- 1:02:41Speaker 6: you anyway. So whatever the desires of your heart is,
- 1:02:44Speaker 6: God wants to give you that, and that comes from
- 1:02:47Speaker 6: what seeking his face. I don't have to seek a
- 1:02:49Speaker 6: prophetic word. If I'm seeking a kingdom and I'm living
- 1:02:52Speaker 6: righteous so good, I don't have to seek a prophetic word.
- 1:02:54Speaker 6: I don't need a prophetic word when I hear the
- 1:02:57Speaker 6: voice of God for myself. The prophetic word it should
- 1:02:59Speaker 6: be extra, but not something that I am seeking.
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: After that part, yeah, that part, I felt like we
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: just did like a tag and usually watch this you know,
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: you know why sometime a prophetic word is needed because
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: people are disobedient. Yep, yeah, so God have to send
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: it prophetically because you're too disobedient to just hear me clearly.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: When I said one time, you're too you're too disobey.
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: I done showed you in a dream and I don't
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: burn your heart with this. So you need a prophetic
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: word to show you what he already said. Now, I
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: needed a prophetic word to marry my husband. I need
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: that word because you was like, I'm gonna be out sad.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: I got to have both of y'all long. Oh my god,
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: they tell that story, we're gonna say, we're gonna say
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: say that one. No, but no, this is this has
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: been good. And I have to do this as an introduction.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: So when she does come on again, oh, I'm gonna
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: be invited back.
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta standing imitation when she does come back.
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: She is a prophet. She is God's prophet, and I
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: really feel like.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: She this is the reason why you see all this
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: this this, this is why you see just ass this
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: is all of this births under her leadership for me.
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: So y'all listen, y'all you know this is this is
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: the prophet. Okay.
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: So when she say, hey, just got a word release
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: or whatever, I ain't gonna say nothing. I might ask
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: a few questions for us, but I ain't gonna say nothing.
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: You up the floor.
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: But Desirae, I know you got back on the mic
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: to try to, like, you know, do your this on me,
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: but go ahead and let the boats know what you
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: thought about this, this conversation. I thought the conversation was amazing,
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: Like first, just the because if you don't sometimes if
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: you don't know somebody come from, it's easy to like
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: judge them, right, it is easy to judge. So I've
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: heard pieces of your story, but just to hear about
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: the transitions, you know, I think that's the part that
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: really kind of spoke to me because it's and it's
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: really interesting because I think Jessica and I are both
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: in kind of parallel spaces, you know what I'm saying,
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: Like we have different journeys, different callings. We're called to
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: do some things together, but because of what we're being
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: called to do, our processes looks similar. Right, And so
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: when you said that, sometimes, because I think the misconception
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: sometimes it's oh, yes, yes, lord, I'm saved here it
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: is and everything is just like sunshine and right, but
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: nobody really talks about sometimes it does look like a downgrade. Yeah,
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so that's the season
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: that I've been navigating. As I've said, yes, and I've
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: released a lot of different things. You know what I'm saying,
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: I'm like battle a lot of times mentally in my
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: mind sometimes like am I missing God Lord, did I
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: miss the instruction that I miss some This don't look right,
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: This don't look like this what this did over here?
- 1:05:58Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I still trust them, right,
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: and so I still trust him.
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: Like you said, staying in the word has really helped
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: because I get those little confirmations, you know, like hey,
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: you on the right. I like to call them break crumbs,
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: like I get a little break crumbs and be like, Okay,
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: I'm good. But this has just been refreshing, And so
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: we can't wait to have you back because I know
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: people don't have the people's gonna have some questions and
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: we want you to answer the question.
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: So like you coming back, I'm excited. I'm glad you
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: finally had your mom.
- 1:06:34Speaker 7: To be a part of this as the podcast.
- 1:06:39Speaker 6: Give me.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: Y'all know for real, but coach, you know, I love you,
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: both of you, guys, We love you. She reason why
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: me and desildol for real? Yeah, like push nation, that's
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: not here anymore if you in that time shout out appreciation.
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: But yeah, she is definitely whole evidence in my life,
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: and so I just want to thank you publicly just
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: for just being you and just being patient with me
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: because I know.
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: I'm a lot, and I stay since your heart. I
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: know I'm alive, but you you've helped me.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: You're helping me develop into a woman of God that
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: I aspire to be.
- 1:07:25Speaker 6: And so I love you and I'm so proud of
- 1:07:28Speaker 6: both of you guys, Like just from the moment that
- 1:07:31Speaker 6: I met both of you all to where you all
- 1:07:33Speaker 6: are today and even to see the partnership, the friendship,
- 1:07:37Speaker 6: the relationship that you guys have developed, it really blesses me.
- 1:07:40Speaker 6: And you guys are being an example of to the world.
- 1:07:44Speaker 6: Like when God me in two hearts together, I'm seeing
- 1:07:47Speaker 6: like a David and Jonathan relationship. And you know that
- 1:07:51Speaker 6: Jonathan was willing to give up his family for his
- 1:07:54Speaker 6: friendship with David. Yeah, Like that's how much the relationship
- 1:07:59Speaker 6: meant to him. And oftentimes we don't see this, especially
- 1:08:02Speaker 6: as Christians, we don't see this. And I'm very appreciative
- 1:08:06Speaker 6: for you guys to live in your relationship out loud.
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: Amen, I love your girl.
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: Nobody can just regularly say death Ray's name. We sang
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: this song last night like five time. But you know,
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: in good old fashioned of just ask the podcast, have
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: we in the in the in the space if there
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: was anything that you could just emphasize on today or
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: anything you want to leave us with the floyd s
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: yours thank you. I just want to say today that
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: transition it may look hard for you, regardless of where
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: you are in your life, because you obeyed God. And
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: obeying God doesn't always feel good. It doesn't always initially
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: reap the results of the harvests that you truly desire.
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: But if you stay faithful unto God and continue on
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: through your process, You're going to get to the end
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: result of what God prom And it's almost like bacon
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: a cake. You saw the end from the beginning, Like
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: I see a picture of the cake that I want,
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: but also I have to go through the process of
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: baking this cake.
- 1:09:12Speaker 7: Watch this.
- 1:09:13Speaker 6: In order for the cake to even be the end results,
- 1:09:17Speaker 6: it have to go in the oven. It have to
- 1:09:19Speaker 6: experience the fire. It has to experience the fire. Fire
- 1:09:23Speaker 6: it purifies your gift. Fire, it helps you to develop.
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: Fire helps the cake come to pass. And so I
- 1:09:34Speaker 6: want you to be encouraged and to know that the
- 1:09:36Speaker 6: fire that you may be experiencing that it is necessary,
- 1:09:39Speaker 6: is God refinding you, But I promise you that there
- 1:09:43Speaker 6: is a reward on the other side, and what God
- 1:09:48Speaker 6: showed you in the beginning, it surely will come to pass.
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: You.
- 1:09:53Speaker 3: Cute you, cute y'all.
- 1:09:58Speaker 6: Coach.
- 1:09:59Speaker 3: I love you, Thank you so much.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: I love you too.
- 1:10:02Speaker 3: I love girls.
- 1:10:02Speaker 7: Another one.
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: It's another one. Community. We love you guys.
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: Remember we and I yes three sixty five, say yes
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: to God. Lean on God until next time.
- 1:10:11Speaker 3: Until next week, Remember life could be much more simple
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: if if.
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: You're just asked, thank you for tuning in to this
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: week's episode.
- 1:10:27Speaker 4: Since you've made it this far, you might as well
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: connect with us on all social media platforms at the
- 1:10:33Speaker 4: Jessica S.
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: Smith.
- 1:10:35Speaker 4: I know I won't see you back until next week,
- 1:10:37Speaker 4: but until then, remember to love always yourself and always thank.
- 1:10:44Speaker 5: Thank God for one another day. Thank hey, I know
- 1:10:50Speaker 5: we could be another way. Hey, pray thank God for
- 1:10:56Speaker 5: another day. Hey hey, I'm just thankful another day. Hey Hey,
- 1:11:06Speaker 5: another day? Oh, another day, wise, another day to get
- 1:11:09Speaker 5: it right, another day to rise up, another day living
- 1:11:12Speaker 5: another day.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: We loved ones.
- 1:11:14Speaker 5: I always remember hold it down for a ball one
- 1:11:17Speaker 5: ye