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Dog Food Secrets: A $5K Collar, Razor Blade, Underwear, and Other Edible Temptations · Family Tree Food Stories

• 0:04
  Hello everybody, it's Nancy and Sylvia and actually, well, Nancy, hello, it's Nancy and Sylvia.
• 0:11
  Hi, Sylvia.
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  Hello, how are you doing?
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  I'm doing great, but today we are going to the dogs.
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  Woof woof woof woof woof woof.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, before we start, actually want to ask everybody to do us a favor, wag your tails um or get your puppy.
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  And would you please follow the show and share it with others?
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  Because every good dog follows its master, right?
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  Woof woof.
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  gonna do.
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  So we've got a lot going on here but we're talking first about a little bit about the history of what dogs eat because You know, I guess well there were dogs in the beginning.
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  We had dinosaur dogs.
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  I guess I don't know.
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  Did we have dinosaur dogs?
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  We know it didn't have dinosaur.
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  We probably had things that looked like dogs maybe, but the really first kind of threads there were wolves, right?
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  And they would take up, they would sneak into campfires, right?
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  That's how people lived.
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  And then they would like steal some scraps, right?
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  That's what they ate.
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  But then at, yeah, yeah, and the country dogs still do, right?
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  I mean, I'm go into a history of the fancy food, right?
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  But the country dogs always do that.
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  But.
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  These dogs would sneak into the camps, eventually they joined as team members to these folks because they could help them find prey.
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  And in that process, they became domesticated and that all the through line to now dogs are our families, right?
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  Yep, you know when it's really cold when it was really cold up north We'd always say is it a two dog night or a one dog night the foot of our bed with the feet, right?
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  sounds like a song, Two Dog Night.
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  it's a group, Two Dog Night.
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  I'm dating myself, okay.
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  So yeah, so those were ancient times.
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  And then they evolved, they evolved.
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  And now look what we have today.
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  You have every imaginable kind of dog from teeny tiny dogs all the way up to St.
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  Bernard's and wolfhounds.
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  I mean, it's like designer dogs and shelter dogs.
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  They're all family though.
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  57 dog, right?
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  know, out the shelters.
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  And we're gonna talk about that in a little bit.
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  But here's how food developed.
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  You wanna go into that right now?
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  You ready?
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  Because I am so into dog food.
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  Okay, and I have my own dog.
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  I mail order my dog food.
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  And I will say this, I will say this, it's tender loving care, TLC.
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  And that was what he was fed as a puppy.
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  And people are doing more and more of that.
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  It's specially formulated and he has been, again.
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  I say this, please, with a grain of salt.
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  If all ended tomorrow, he's the healthiest dog I've ever had.
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  So we'll see, all right?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So commercial dog food was developed in like the mid 1800s and James Spratt, okay, Mr.
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  Spratt, invented dog cakes and then came, do you remember kennel ration?
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  Wait a second, he invented dog cakes?
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  Yeah, dog cakes with meat and veggies, not fancy cakes.
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  But do you remember?
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  Yeah, no, I don't think so.
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  I say they were extremely low level, but kennel ration.
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  Do you remember kennel ration?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, canned dog food.
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  And you'll love this made with horse meat.
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  uh You have to whisper that.
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  a second so our our little dog when we when we were kids we had two miniature poodles Jacques Jacques Pierre and Tosh tish-tosh Pittle Posh Right right.
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  Well anyway, so so Jacques our first one would not eat anything other than cat food and then one day Yeah, he liked the smellier the better and so one day my mom got
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  horse meat in a can and I freaked and I said, I was so angry with her because you know, horse back riding was my thing as a kid.
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  And I just like, nope, won't do it.
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  But yuck, horse meat, can't do that.
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  up here you have to whisper it.
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  mean, horse meat.
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  oh, I mean, you could get attacked.
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  No, the horses up here don't go to the glue factory.
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  Not that we know of, okay.
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  Or into dog food, because that was banned actually.
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  Dog food made with horse meat was actually banned in 1970.
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  Ah, am I a fountain of facts?
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  Okay, so next up was dry food, okay.
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  And
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  That came about in World War II because rationing, there was not a lot of meat, right?
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  So you had to start combining things.
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  And that may have also been, it led to eventually Purina kibble, Purina, a name we all know, and dog chow.
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  And that made it mass produced.
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  And that's when it was like, know, nutrition, uniform morsels.
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  But that was the beginning of kind of some challenges with tastiness and nutrition and
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  Boy, did that change, right?
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  I'm gonna stop you a second.
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  I was like, so how do they taste?
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  How do they know whether it's tasty or not?
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  don't know, but have you accidentally ever ate a dog bite of something?
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  I have.
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  Mal, no, a Bible occasionally eat a dog biscuit.
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  Not a lot, just a taste.
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  I'm like, are you crazy?
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  No, I don't eat.
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  I don't, I don't eat.
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  He's crazy.
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  Not me.
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  I don't eat.
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  No, I don't even try.
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  no.
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  Okay, okay.
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  Okay, so then in the 60s to the 80s, specialization came in.
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  And what was that?
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  That was puppy food and all of those kinds of things.
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  And the nutritional quality began to improve to the late 2000s, late 20th century.
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  Sorry.
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  We're not even, yeah.
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  Okay, okay, okay, okay.
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  I get so excited and I talk with my hands, right?
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  uh That's holistic and all-natural came into being uh Grain free got to be very popular particularly with people that you know Didn't want the kind of the mix of stuff.
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  They wanted it to be anyway.
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  Yeah, that was the fillers Okay, so grain free controversy There is a dog version of cardiomyopathy, you know, that's the heart thing that kill kills people that's the heart
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  inflammation
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  okay, cardiac care, okay.
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  And that was caused, they think.
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  Now there's no definitive link and people stopped feeding grain free because veterinarians got very concerned and some still are, although there's no definitive thing going on here.
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  ah But it was cause it contained, they think, legumes and pulses.
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  Do you know what pulses are?
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  Pulses are
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  dried beans and legumes.
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  I had no idea.
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  so it's just a fancy name for dried stuff.
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  Where did get the name pulses?
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  I don't know.
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  Pulses.
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  wait a second, but you figure dogs eat grass, so there's dried seeds in the grass.
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  I guess they're just smaller seeds versus the legumes.
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  and they eat the same food like breakfast night and breakfast morning dinner at night kind of thing.
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  anyway our dogs are treated more like humans than ever and today the big movement if you watch television or walk by a television during a sporting event it used to be about well
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  things that maybe we shouldn't say on
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  Go ahead, go for it.
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  erectile dysfunction.
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  But now it's about farmer's dog.
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  don't know if there's any connection alongside farmer's dog.
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  dog.
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  that sounds right.
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  No, we're not that's rather pornographic poor doggy
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  Anyway, Farmer's Dog is probably the biggest brand.
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  And I was skeptical when I saw that.
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  And frankly, that stuff comes in a pouch.
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  And the ads are beautiful.
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  They know where they're throwing people out of their house because the people look in the refrigerator and see the Farmer's Dog packet.
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  And they're like, I know.
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  I love those commercials.
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  anyway, so here's the deal.
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  uh They are actually finding very preliminary because it's pretty new.
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  You know raw dog foods been around for you know a while, but this is heavily advertised That it actually is good for dogs.
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  Ah Is that cool?
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  All right do
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  because our vet used to get a lot of dogs that were coming in with the raw dog food.
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  Now this was probably about, so we've been down here four and a half years.
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  So pre COVID thinking, you know, five years plus right back.
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  And all the dogs that were coming in with digestive issues had shards of bone in their stomachs from the raw dog food.
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  this?
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  How long ago was this?
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  I'm going to say six or seven years ago.
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  Okay, well, it fits perfectly.
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  Yes, they said be very careful about that kind of food because it still isn't up to standards.
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  And there's like standards associations that standardize and say what kind of ratings and yeah.
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  And so the farmer's dog stuff is considered pretty good because it's very meets the standards.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  gal from Grey's Anatomy that's doing her fancy dog food stuff.
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  oh yeah.
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  I mean there's all kinds of evolutionary things and revolutionary things taking place.
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  Now, question is, are you ready to get into the things dogs eat that they're not supposed to eat?
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  Well, let's take a break on that one.
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  Well, actually, well, let's talk about the things that not good for them, like the poisonous stuff, and then we'll go to the other stuff.
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  Okay.
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  Okay, things that are not good.
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  Here's the official list, okay.
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  Chocolate, coffee, caffeine, poisonous bugs and spiders.
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  This is just a list.
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  I think it's kind of interesting.
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  Yeah, like really, seriously.
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  Raw dough and fermented items that result sometimes in dogs getting drunk, okay.
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  Now that's the official list.
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  You want to hear the list of dogs that what some of the most interesting things dogs have eaten and lived through.
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  OK.
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  take a break because this is where we're gonna make a little bit of a shift in our conversation.
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  Hang tight because it's all about woof, the dog food.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  uh
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  Thank
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  Are you ready, pooch?
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  Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about Leona at the end.
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  How's that?
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  Okay, so we're back with dog stuff.
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  Well, maybe I shouldn't say dog stuff.
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  sounds like dog poop as opposed to dog food.
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  right.
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  So we're going to do a little bit of a radio show here.
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  Not that we aren't anyway.
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  And Sylvia is going to be the dog owner and I'm going to be woof, the dog talking about what I ate and what I don't eat.
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  How's that?
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  love it.
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  What's your name, doggy?
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  My doggy, my name is the Mighty Quinn, aka Quinn.
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  All right.
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  So Quinn, Quinn, I've got you on the uh couch where you like to lay.
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  All right.
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  Now, what is your mama?
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  Okay.
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  I'll call you her, your mama.
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  What have you done to upset your mama as far as what you've eaten?
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  Okay.
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  well, she doesn't get too upset till she finds out what the vet bill is.
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  And I don't like to do that, but.
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  I think your mama has a couple of stories about you, okay?
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  So let me tell me, tell me what you've eaten.
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  I mean, I need to know this so can help you get over this obsession.
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  Well, let me stretch out first and talk about that, so...
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  ah
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  You're just laying on your back.
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  Everything's exposed.
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  doing all that good stuff.
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  Ruff.
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  Anyway, so let me go down the list, Sylvia, because it really is a doozy.
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  it makes me tired just thinking about it.
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  Chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp.
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  Anyway, so we'll start with underwear.
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  She has the best underwear.
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  my God, it tastes so good.
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  And when she's not looking, I will go diving into the hamper.
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  She doesn't even know that I can reach to the bottom.
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  Hmm, hamper diver, huh?
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  Yeah, I'm a dumpster diver.
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  She's just not that so smart and catching me when I do it.
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  But anyway Socks socks are not quite as tasty as underwear.
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  I'm not sure why I think the underwear really has the the top of the list It's kind of like people caviar, right?
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  Right, then she she she has a tendency to be creative in certain things and
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  She leaves out technical pens.
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  So, you know, technical pens with those little sharp points at the end with permanent ink.
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  Well, I decided it was time for a tattoo and this one landed on my tongue.
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  So I have a black spot on my tongue.
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  Yes, they call me the Mighty Quinn for many reasons.
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  Oh, and then there was that really tasty rat poison that was in the garage.
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  Oh, that stuff tastes so sweet and good.
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  Yep.
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  Well, I had to go on like a month of vitamin K for that one, but you know what?
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  It was worth it.
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  It tasted so good.
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  And don't forget the rats that I ate along the way.
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  No.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, you know, the cats, eat those too, but that's besides the point.
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  Razor blades.
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  So I did eat.
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  They weren't so good.
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  Yeah.
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  Disposable ones are actually the better ones of the two, but those are the ones I had.
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  And you know what they fed me to get rid of those.
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  What?
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  Well, because they take me to the vet, they're going to slice me open.
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  I heard like, no, don't slice me up.
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  Anyway, ah good.
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  And that cone of shame, not good.
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  No, no, no.
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  So they fed me cotton balls loaded with olive oil.
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  And she's asking the vet, do you think he's going to eat olive oil?
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  And the vet looks at her and since I take stock people, you know, I am a magic dog, the mighty queen, we do a lot of things here.
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  But the vet said, look, he ate the damn razor blade.
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  What do you think?
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  And she looked at him halfway nuts.
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  And so we went home, we'd get some special olive oil, extra virgin, of course, please.
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  And darn, if those olive oil, cotton balls, a whole bag, they were delicious, almost as good as underwear.
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  But the good thing is that everything came out in the end and it didn't hurt.
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  Oh man, you crazy dog!
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  as they say.
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  Woof, yeah, woof.
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  might even eat some razor blades in the future just so you can have those cotton balls.
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  Then there was that Soresto collar.
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  That one cost her $5,000.
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  Oh my God.
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  Yeah, I did.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, it wouldn't go through.
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  Cotton balls didn't work on that one.
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  So they had to open me up.
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  Yup.
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  Not pretty.
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  And my owner, Nancy, she was down there taking care of her folks in Florida at the time.
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  So I felt a little guilty on that one.
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  But it kept the collar away from my other housemate, Otis.
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  Otis of Reading.
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  Yeah, I don't like him so much, but I got the collar and the cone of shame.
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  Then there was the time that the bone, you know how they have those big beef bones?
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  Oh, I love those.
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  Well, there was a time that I got that one stuck around my jaw, just trying to get the marrow out.
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  Well, they had to saw that one off my jaw.
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  Talk about that one.
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  Well, then there was paper towels.
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  Paper towels are always delicious, especially if they have a little extra gravy on it.
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  Toilet paper.
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  I share the toilet paper with Otis.
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  He eats the inside.
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  I eat the outside.
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  So, you know, we got to share things.
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  Yeah.
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  Dead stuff.
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  Dead stuff in the yard is so good.
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  ah the stinkier, the better.
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  Grass, of course.
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  Garbage.
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  Business card case.
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  I got in trouble with that one.
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  That was one that she had had since the first day she worked.
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  my God.
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  Did I get a spanking for that one?
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  Well, I got yelled at.
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  didn't get hit.
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  She's not a spanker.
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  She's a yeller.
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  I know what I'm not done.
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  I'm not done.
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  There's the watch band, the watch band, both metal and leather.
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  And then we've got, well, I also ate the front of the grass on the that one hurt, but I got more over cotton balls for that one.
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  oh
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  I see a pattern.
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  Yeah, and credit cards.
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  My stomach's worth a lot in American Express dollars.
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  But I guess I think that does it.
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  All right, well, a few more belly rubs, but I think you've gotten my dog beaten in the race to have the worst foods go down your gullet.
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  A bottle of melatonin is about as bad as he's done, but he loves all the other things you do except razor blades.
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  He doesn't do that, and he's never had to have surgery.
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  uh Didn't you have a poignant story, though, about getting, let's call Nancy back in, okay?
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  Let's call your owner back in.
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  And didn't you, mom?
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  Come here.
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  But didn't your dad pay for that surgery?
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  It was a poignant story, wasn't it?
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  yes, yes.
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  Quinn, down, sit, stay, no, lay down, okay.
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  So yeah, so this was a really sweetie, you know, um I was down in Florida taking care of my folks and I'm always looking for some adventure that was going on to keep mom and dad
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  happy.
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  Mom did like to go on the adventures, but dad was always adventurous and I decided that I could, I got a helicopter ride, know, one of those discount things.
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  Well, be careful.
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  ride out of Tampa and we were driving around.
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  We're about to get into the plane in the helicopter.
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  And I get a call from Bob.
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  said, I can't talk to you.
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  We're getting into the plane.
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  You got to talk to me.
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  No, can't.
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  I I'm at the vets.
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  Which one?
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  The emergency vet.
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  Ah, you are kidding me.
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  What's happened?
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  Quinn, the mighty Quinn.
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  What'd I say?
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  Sit down.
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  Don't, don't bother me now.
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  Okay.
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  So, um, he's looking for pets and belly rubs, but anyway.
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  So the mighty Quinn had eaten the seresto collar.
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  he says, the vet told me it's going to cost $5,000.
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  Either we do it or that's it with the dog.
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  And I tell my dad, and I'm shocked.
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  And my father said, let me help you with the bill.
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  So he helped us with the bill.
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  It was really sweet.
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  He says, I know, I know.
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  a $5,000 sudden shock.
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  mean, yeah, I mean you got a tough decision to make at that point and people do.
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  I was ready to I was ready to get on the plane and tell the helicopter go to Connecticut.
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  I'm gonna kill the dog myself
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying.
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  mean, that's, but that was a beautiful story.
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  Mighty Quinn.
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  about Quinn.
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  And I asked, and I sent pictures.
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  my god.
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  And the interesting thing is, after they opened him up, they decided because he's a large dog, he's a standard poodle.
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  And you think a poodle would be a little bit more discerning on...
• 20:26
  Otis of Reading is very discerning.
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  Yes, Otis, he's discerning about eating stuff.
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  He eats a lot of stuff too, but he's picky with his dog food.
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  um
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  He, uh, what was I going with this?
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  totally lost my train of thought.
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  I'm about dogs.
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  That's good.
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  Well, after that, listening to that history.
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  here's what happened.
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  Yeah, what happened is when they opened him up because he's a large dog and large dogs have a tendency to also sometimes get bloat and They'll get colic and die from that.
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  So they get a twisted gut They actually surgically um Soed his stomach to the side of the walls of the inside of his body cavity, so it won't flip So he's still pretty good at
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  eating all sorts of crap
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  What a dog.
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  I tell you what, let me talk to Quinn for just a minute though.
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  I want to talk to him about...
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  Yeah.
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  Quinn.
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  Okay, okay, God.
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  All right, honey.
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  Okay, you gotta listen to me on this one, okay?
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  If you don't do anything, watch how you eat your bones, okay?
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  I don't know what your mommy does, but you have to be very careful.
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  And you only eat raw bones, like raw lamb bones or beef bones, and the big ones.
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  And I don't know what kind of bone it was they cut off your mouth, but yeah, you gotta have big ones.
• 21:51
  And never cooked ones okay I know i'm talking to the wall here you're not going to listen to me but.
• 21:58
  cooked ones, because it softens up the bone in it cuts into shards more easily okay.
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  so I'm going to tell Nancy about that one because she gave me a cook when it's her fault.
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  one more lesson.
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  Don't eat rawhide bones.
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  And it's all over the marketing now.
• 22:14
  Do not eat rawhide bones because they're made from the inside lining of the animal that they're taken from, a cow, for instance.
• 22:23
  Yeah.
• 22:24
  Yeah, yeah, But what it does is they have to chemically treat it so much and it still doesn't break down in your mouth.
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  OK, guy?
• 22:34
  So.
• 22:34
  they come from China too and and Nancy Nancy's pretty good about not buying stuff from at least dog stuff from China.
• 22:41
  Yeah
• 22:42
  So anyway, there you have it.
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  Now, um I just want to tell you just some quick statistics.
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  51 % of our households, our national households, have dogs.
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  And that's 68 million dogs.
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  Some people have two.
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  Hey, hey, mom, come back.
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  ah
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  Quinn.
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  You don't really care.
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  You just care about your razor blades and all of that.
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  And then here's something interesting.
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  The most popular animals that we all have, we have to feed all these animals, right?
• 23:15
  Our dogs, cats, freshwater fish, small animals like guinea pigs, don't ever do it.
• 23:21
  People don't ever do that.
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  Birds, reptiles, horses, and saltwater fish.
• 23:29
  And um Leo, our good friend Leo the podcaster, has tarantulas.
• 23:36
  I don't think they rank very high, but he's got several tarantulas.
• 23:41
  you, mean, Leo, he says crickets.
• 23:45
  I ask him.
• 23:47
  Okay.
• 23:48
  crickets, let's sort of finish up our show because I think there's some interesting stories about one of the most famous dogs.
• 23:56
  Well, maybe it's not the most famous dog, but certainly at a certain time there was a very famous dog owner by uh the name of Leona Helmsley.
• 24:05
  And Leona was known at least in the New York area, and I think she made pretty big news about how she treated her pooch troubles with.
• 24:14
  at the absolute royalty because she considered well, Leona considered herself the queen of New York at the time anyway, because it was the Helmsley Palace, a rather interesting
• 24:23
  lady, but her her hotel is actually or is or was beautiful.
• 24:30
  I guess probably because she wanted to look so nice for the dog, but not us people.
• 24:35
  But you've got some stories on exactly what happened when she died because it made a lot of national news and when Leona
• 24:41
  she was a neighbor here in Lexington, Kentucky.
• 24:46
  She was in the federal prison here for tax evasion.
• 24:49
  And I remember, yeah, no, I mean, think about that.
• 24:53
  Think about what she went to.
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  But anyway, this was a Maltese tiny dog named Trouble, just one, it's singular, Trouble, and died at the age of 12.
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  But when she died, she left that dog $12 million and cut out her grandchildren and a bunch of other people and imagine.
• 25:11
  Yeah, remember this.
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  And while she was alive though, and I don't know who cared for the dog while she was in prison, but ah the dog had its own chef and it was fed such things as uh crab cakes, cream
• 25:28
  cheese.
• 25:29
  You know, it was a small dog, by the way, and small dogs live a long time.
• 25:33
  So it actually kind of died young, but anyway, you'll find out in a minute what maybe why I don't know uh steamed vegetables and they were served to the dog on a silver platter,
• 25:43
  literally a silver platter.
• 25:45
  would have liked to have been a dog owned by Leona Helmsley.
• 25:48
  I know.
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  then she died.
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  And she left money to her brother.
• 25:53
  She did leave him millions.
• 25:55
  And I guess he cut the dog off.
• 25:57
  But the dog went to Florida and lived in a palace down there, one of her places.
• 26:01
  So I mean, it did fine, OK?
• 26:04
  But guess what it ended up eating for the rest of its life after she died?
• 26:09
  Alpo, canned Alpo.
• 26:12
  uh Leona, you're turning over in your grave.
• 26:17
  Anyway, that was the story of Leona.
• 26:20
  And that kind of, you know, that story sort of ushers in this whole obsession we now have.
• 26:26
  Our dogs are our children.
• 26:28
  I mean, I love Hart.
• 26:30
  I mean, I, you know, I can't imagine life without him.
• 26:33
  And the older I get, the more attached I am.
• 26:35
  And I, cause I love everything, you know, Nancy, I just reached the point where I love everything and I mother everything.
• 26:43
  And now I'm at the age where I grandmother everything.
• 26:45
  And so.
• 26:46
  No, my cat and my dog.
• 26:47
  I choose my house based on whether it's going to be friendly for my cat and my dog.
• 26:53
  You know, it's pretty weird.
• 26:56
  Yeah.
• 26:56
  my mom would always say that she was a uh grand dog, a grandma, grandma dog.
• 27:02
  Yeah.
• 27:04
  She wasn't a grandma dog, but she was a grandma doggies.
• 27:06
  And she always asked about the dog.
• 27:08
  So we'd send her pictures as well.
• 27:11
  Can I add just a couple of things too?
• 27:14
  I know that we're running out of time, but the pandemic really escalated all of this because of the loneliness and people needed companionship, right?
• 27:22
  And I mean, it's continued, but there's some challenges and here's some challenges.
• 27:26
  ah Where dogs can be, and I own a restaurant and I know people ask all the time and there are people getting service dog destinations and some of them are legit and some of them
• 27:38
  aren't.
• 27:38
  You're right.
• 27:39
  can take them but I do you want dogs sitting next to you as you dine out?
• 27:43
  A lot of people don't, right?
• 27:45
  in Europe, they do that a lot.
• 27:46
  And we saw dogs in Paris quite frequently.
• 27:49
  And if they're small and they're sitting on somebody's lap and they're behaved well, I don't have a problem with it.
• 27:54
  don't either, but some people are allergic to them.
• 27:56
  People like our good friend, Frida, who frequently comments on our work, love Frida.
• 28:01
  Frida's terrified of dogs.
• 28:02
  She was attacked when she was little.
• 28:04
  So, you know, there's all that.
• 28:05
  And then we have shelters that are overflowing and people at the same time.
• 28:10
  Yeah.
• 28:11
  And so you just got all these kind of things that happen as a result of a good thing is that we're feeding them better and better.
• 28:17
  Right.
• 28:18
  And they're living longer.
• 28:19
  So anyway, that's that.
• 28:23
  Well, I know one quick story before we leave that a friend years back when Boston Chicken was hot and popular, guess upon Boston Chicken was hot.
• 28:32
  Haha.
• 28:32
  I think it was hot anyway.
• 28:34
  uh She used to buy her dog, which was a little like wiener hot Doxon dog, a chicken from Boston Chicken with all the fixings every other day.
• 28:45
  And I don't know how long that dog lasted, but I got to tell you, I think she kept Boston Chicken afloat.
• 28:52
  you
• 28:53
  and I think in your notes that you mentioned that, that, you know, we ought to help the, could be, that's that's a biz op.
• 29:01
  Help these, help these companies invent dog dishes, you know, that are.
• 29:06
  When you go to KFC, next time you want to ask is the kind that doesn't have so much salt so you can give it to your puppy too.
• 29:13
  Yeah, that's a good idea.
• 29:15
  We should charge them for that.
• 29:17
  about all of that is I'm always concerned about nutrition.
• 29:23
  mean, it's hard enough to keep track of mine, but at least I know the dog food, if I trust the people who sell it to me, that it's nutritionally balanced.
• 29:37
  Dogs cannot live by chicken alone or Boston chicken alone.
• 29:41
  Yeah.
• 29:42
  I love that Boston chicken, by the way.
• 29:44
  I remember that.
• 29:44
  It was good.
• 29:46
  and we can't live by chicken alone.
• 29:47
  So I guess is the the cow would say eat more chicken.
• 29:51
  uh Well, on that note, it's been a lot of fun doing this dog show episode with you and the mighty Quinn.
• 30:01
  What do you say?
• 30:03
  I think it was good.
• 30:04
  uh Woof woof woof woof.
• 30:10
  OK, my tail is wagging and my belly is being rubbed.
• 30:14
  Ha ha ha.
• 30:15
  We'll see you soon and woof we'll hear you soon.
• 30:18
  Take care.
• 30:19
  Bye.
• 30:20
  Bye
• 30:20
  Bye bye.