Latest / Reformed Thinking / The Hinge of the Controversy: Divine Justice and the Satisfaction of Christ | John Owen
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- 0:00So usually demolishing a building is really loud.
- 0:04Oh yeah, very loud. Right.
- 0:05You bring in the Wrecking Ball, you smash the windows, tear off
- 0:07the roof, and the whole thing comes crashing down in this huge
- 0:11cloud of dust. It is a spectacle.
- 0:13Everyone on the street can see what is happening.
- 0:15Right. It draws a crowd.
- 0:16Yeah, but the most dangerous demolition experts, they do not
- 0:21need a Wrecking Ball. They just quietly walk into the
- 0:25basement, find one specific unassuming structural beam, and
- 0:30remove it. And leave everything else alone.
- 0:32Precisely. They leave the walls alone, they
- 0:35leave the roof alone, but because they understood the
- 0:37precise load bearing mechanics of that building, the whole
- 0:40house collapses in total silence.
- 0:42That is a great way to picture it.
- 0:44Back in the 17th century, a thinker named Says Sinus walked
- 0:47right into the basement of the Christian faith to remove one
- 0:50unassuming beam. And that beam was the concept of
- 0:54God's justice. Yeah, he went right for the
- 0:56foundation. He sure did, and if theologian
- 0:59John Owen had not caught him in the act, the necessity of the
- 1:02cross would have come crashing down.
- 1:04So welcome to Reformed Thinking. This is a custom tailored deep
- 1:08dive designed specifically for your curious mind, taking you
- 1:11straight to the core of a massive historical text.
- 1:14We are investigating a piece of writing by John Owen titled A
- 1:18Dissertation on Divine Justice. It really is a brilliant piece
- 1:22of historical theology. I mean, John Owen was a 17th
- 1:24century academic, the Vice Chancellor of Oxford University.
- 1:27Just a massive intellect. Absolutely massive.
- 1:30Right. And he is writing this
- 1:31dissertation to defend a very specific concept, which is God's
- 1:36punitory justice, that is the attribute of God that requires
- 1:40the punishment of sin. Right, the absolute requirement.
- 1:43Yeah, and he is defending it against Fausto Satsini, who is,
- 1:47you know, generally known by his Latinized name, Sassinus.
- 1:50Now Sassinus is the guy down in the basement.
- 1:52Sneaking around with a wrench. Spot on.
- 1:54He is making a highly calculated argument that God's justice is
- 1:59optional. He suggests that God can punish
- 2:02sin if he wants to, but he absolutely does not have to.
- 2:06It is a choice, like picking what to have for dinner.
- 2:11We really need to set the stakes right away for you, the
- 2:13listener, because I mean, this is not some abstract ivory tower
- 2:17debate over dictionary definitions.
- 2:19No, not at. All so Sinus is trying to prove
- 2:21that God's justice is optional for one very specific reason.
- 2:26He wants to disprove the necessity of Christ's
- 2:29satisfaction for sin. That is the whole goal.
- 2:31Yeah, and that word satisfaction trips people up today because,
- 2:35you know, when we hear it, we think of customer service or
- 2:37eating a good meal. Right, like being satisfied with
- 2:39a product. Yeah, but in this theological
- 2:42and historical context, what does that word actually mean?
- 2:44Well, it is a legal and financial term.
- 2:46Think about a debt. If you owe, say, $1,000,000 to
- 2:49the bank, the bank requires satisfaction.
- 2:52They want their money. Right.
- 2:53The debt must be paid. If someone else steps in and
- 2:55pays the million dollars on your behalf, the bank's requirement
- 2:59is satisfied. That makes sense.
- 3:01So in theology, Christ's satisfaction refers to Jesus
- 3:04taking on the legal debt of human sin and paying the penalty
- 3:07on the cross. It fulfills the legal
- 3:10requirement of God's justice. And so Sinus wants to dismantle
- 3:13this entire idea. He really does.
- 3:15He wants to prove that God is not like a bank requiring a
- 3:18payment. He wants to prove God can just
- 3:20cancel the debt with a wave of his hand, which makes the cross
- 3:23totally unnecessary. So if justice is just a choice,
- 3:27the cross becomes an unnecessary tragedy.
- 3:30Precisely. John Owen, on the other hand, is
- 3:32defending the absolute, undeniable necessity of that
- 3:35satisfaction. He is doing that by proving that
- 3:37justice is an inherent part of who God is.
- 3:40If God is inherently just, the debt must be paid.
- 3:44That is the core conflict right there.
- 3:45Both men understand they are fighting over the central axis
- 3:48of the Christian faith. The stakes could not be higher.
- 3:51Yeah, Owen is writing this dissertation to show that
- 3:53Sassanas quiet attempt to remove that one beam will literally
- 3:57bond the entire house down. So our goal today is to examine
- 4:00the rigorous defense Owen builds to reinforce that structure.
- 4:04We really need to look at the mechanics of the arguments.
- 4:06We are not just looking at what they said, we want to unpack why
- 4:09they said it and how their logic.
- 4:12Works, I agree. OK, so let us unpack this motive
- 4:15a bit more. We should start by looking at
- 4:17the load bearing wall itself. Why is so sinus attacking the
- 4:21concept of divine justice in the first place?
- 4:24Well, he has a very clear agenda.
- 4:26He does, based on our sources, so Sinus does not hide his
- 4:30intentions at all. He vehemently opposes the idea
- 4:33of punitory or punishing justice because he understands it is the
- 4:38hinge of the entire controversy regarding Christ the Savior.
- 4:41He is remarkably open about his strategy.
- 4:44Yeah, he's almost shocking how transparent he is.
- 4:46It really is so. Sinus was part of a rationalist
- 4:49movement in the 16th and 17th centuries.
- 4:52He looked at the established doctrines of the Church,
- 4:54especially the Trinity and the Atonement, and he just decided
- 4:57they did not make logical sense to his human mind.
- 5:00He thought he knew better. Pretty much.
- 5:02But he knows that if you attack the cross directly, you face an
- 5:06uphill battle. You are going up against
- 5:08centuries of established Christian doctrine and, you
- 5:10know, very clear biblical texts. You cannot just erase the
- 5:13crucifixion from the Bible. Right, so he goes for the
- 5:16logical prerequisite of the cross.
- 5:18He realizes that the only reason a substitute, a savior, is
- 5:22required in the 1st place is if there is an unavoidable demand
- 5:25for a penalty. So he looks for the root cause,
- 5:28Yeah. If God simply must punish sin
- 5:31because of His nature, then a Savior is absolutely required to
- 5:35bear that punishment on behalf of humanity.
- 5:38So. So scientists decides to target
- 5:40that must he targets the absolute requirement.
- 5:43That is his whole game plan. Our sources point out a very
- 5:46striking quote from So Sinus here.
- 5:47He actually glories in his perceived victory.
- 5:51He says that if he can just get rid of this specific attribute
- 5:53of God, then what he calls the human fiction of Jesus Christ
- 5:58satisfaction will be thoroughly detected and totally vanish.
- 6:02Calling the cross a human fiction is quite a bold
- 6:04statement. It is a staggering claim.
- 6:06I mean, by calling it a human fiction, he means it is just a
- 6:10theological invention. Right, something made-up by men.
- 6:13Yeah, he thinks early church thinkers essentially made-up
- 6:16this legal framework of a debt needing payment.
- 6:20He assumes that by making justice an optional preference
- 6:24rather than a necessary attribute, he has totally
- 6:26dismantled his opponents strong tower.
- 6:28He really thinks he has outsmarted everyone.
- 6:31He thinks he's has completely bypassed the need for an
- 6:34atonement. But what is super striking is
- 6:36how much John Owen actually agrees with Socinus on the
- 6:40stakes of this argument. They are on the same page about
- 6:42what is at risk. Yeah, Owen notes that if Pine
- 6:45Tory justice belongs essentially to God, no one, not even someone
- 6:49with a genius as artful and fertile as Socinus, could devise
- 6:52a way for sinners to attain salvation without a proper
- 6:55satisfaction. They're basically looking at the
- 6:57exact same logical equation, just from opposite sides.
- 7:00If justice is essential, the cross is necessary.
- 7:03If justice is optional, the cross is a fiction.
- 7:06It is a binary outcome. And Owen actually gives the
- 7:09sinus credit for his intellect here, which is interesting.
- 7:11He does. He acknowledges that Sosinus is
- 7:13a clever thinker. But Owen argues that the truth
- 7:17of Christ bearing our sins is abundantly clear.
- 7:19It rests on the revealed will of God.
- 7:21Owen makes a really strong point there.
- 7:23He says that even if God had kept the reasons for the cross
- 7:26hidden in his infinite wisdom, humanity would still be
- 7:30obligated to accept it based purely on God's authority.
- 7:33That brings up a really fascinating point about how we
- 7:35approach divine revelation. Owen is basically saying that
- 7:39God does not owe us a comprehensive explanation for
- 7:41his methods. He is God after all.
- 7:44Right. The fact that Christ bore our
- 7:46sins is a revealed truth, a strong pillar of faith that just
- 7:50cannot be surrendered. Even if we do not get all the
- 7:52mechanics. Yeah, but however, since God has
- 7:55graciously revealed the mechanisms behind this truth,
- 7:57since He has shown us that His justice requires satisfaction,
- 8:00we have an obligation to defend that understanding.
- 8:03We have to protect what he has shown US.
- 8:05Spot on. Owen refuses to surrender even a
- 8:08single inch of this truth to adversaries like So Sinus.
- 8:11So let us try and make this dynamic really concrete for the
- 8:14listener. Going back to that architectural
- 8:16idea, think of punitory justice as a massive load bearing wall
- 8:21right in the center of a house. OK, I am picturing it.
- 8:24So Sinus is not coming in with a paintbrush to, you know,
- 8:27redecorate the living room. He has a sledgehammer and he is
- 8:30aiming right at that central pillar.
- 8:32He wants structural collapse. Yeah, he knows that if he can
- 8:35knock out the necessity of justice, the entire roof meeting
- 8:39the necessity of the cross will just collapse under its own
- 8:42weight. That is a perfect analogy.
- 8:44So if so Sinus is so confident he has dismantled this wall,
- 8:48what specifically is his strategy?
- 8:50I mean, how does he explain the biblical descriptions of God
- 8:52punishing sin? He cannot just cross those pages
- 8:55out of his Bible. No, he cannot.
- 8:57He has to deal with the actual text, and that leads us right
- 9:00into the actual mechanics of SO sinus argument.
- 9:03What does he do? Well, since he cannot ignore the
- 9:06parts of the text that talk about God punishing people, he
- 9:09invents a brand new categorization system.
- 9:11A loophole. Yeah, pretty much.
- 9:14This brings us to his critique of a previous writer named
- 9:16Kovitis. Now Cavetus had argued in a
- 9:19correspondence that justice and mercy are opposed to one
- 9:22another. OK, how so?
- 9:24You have mercy which pardons, and justice which punishes.
- 9:27They pull in opposite directions so sinus jumps all over this.
- 9:32He sees an opening. He really does.
- 9:33He accuses Cavetes of improperly setting justice in opposition to
- 9:37mercy, claiming that the biblical text contains no such
- 9:40opposition. And from that critique, so
- 9:42Spinus introduces this highly specific concept of A2 fold
- 9:48justice. Right, the two rule books.
- 9:50Yeah, he argues that God actually possesses 2 entirely
- 9:52different kinds of justice. The first kind, according to
- 9:55Sinus, is the justice God uses to destroy obstinate,
- 9:59desperately wicked sinners. The ones who just will not turn
- 10:01around. Yeah, these are the people who
- 10:03persevere in wickedness and completely refuse to repent.
- 10:05God uses the harsh justice on them.
- 10:08Correct. And then so Sinus proposes a
- 10:09second kind of justice. The second type is used for
- 10:12sinners who are not entirely desperate.
- 10:14You know, sinners whose repentance is actually expected.
- 10:17So the slightly better sinners. According to him, yeah.
- 10:20According to Sinus, this second kind of justice allows these
- 10:24people to stand in God's presence, assuming God wills it.
- 10:27He is trying to create a theological framework where
- 10:30God's standard of justice flexes and bends depending on the
- 10:34category of the center. That is precisely what he is
- 10:36doing. So.
- 10:37So scientist is basically arguing God operates like a
- 10:41corrupt bouncer at a nightclub. I like where this is going.
- 10:44Yeah, if he likes you or if he thinks you might behave well,
- 10:47eventually he uses the VI key rule book and just waved you in,
- 10:51totally ignoring the dress code. But if he does not like you, or
- 10:55if you are stubborn, he pulls out the strict rule book and
- 10:58throws you out into the street. That is a perfect way to
- 11:01visualize it. So Sinus needs a flexible
- 11:03standard. He needs God to have the ability
- 11:05to say, you know you broke the rules, but I am going to look
- 11:08the other way for you. Because if God can look the
- 11:10other way, you do not need Jesus to pay the fine.
- 11:13Spot on, but Owen steps in and completely rejects this whole
- 11:17setup. Owen's rebuttal is that punitory
- 11:19justice is 1 alone an individual.
- 11:22It is not twofold at all. Not even a little bit.
- 11:24The standard of justice does not change.
- 11:27It is an unmoving baseline. OK but hold on if justice is a
- 11:30strict unchanging standard but one guy goes to hell and the
- 11:34other gets pardoned. I mean from the outside that
- 11:36looks exactly like God playing favorite.
- 11:38It does look like that initially.
- 11:40Right. How does Owen defend that
- 11:42without making God look like a hypocrite?
- 11:44If the rule never changes, how do we end up with two completely
- 11:48opposite results? That is the traps a sinus falls
- 11:51into, and it is a very intuitive trap.
- 11:55You see two different outcomes, so you naturally assume there
- 11:57must be two different sets of rules it.
- 12:00Seems like the only logical conclusion.
- 12:02But Owen clarifies that the difference in the outcome does
- 12:04not rely on a change in God's standard.
- 12:07The difference lies in whether or not a substitute has
- 12:10satisfied that standard. The substitute.
- 12:12Yeah, God punishes the impenitent to all eternity
- 12:15because He is just and because there is no sacrifice for their
- 12:19sins, their sins remain entirely on their own account.
- 12:22So the strict rule book applies to them directly.
- 12:25Precisely, they bear the full weight of it.
- 12:28Now for the other group, God leads them to repentance and
- 12:31pardons them. But, and this is the really
- 12:34crucial distinction Owen makes, God does not pardon them by
- 12:38suspending his justice. He does not ignore the dress
- 12:40code. Right.
- 12:41He does not pull out a lenient VIP rulebook.
- 12:45He pardons them because his singular, unchanging standard of
- 12:49justice was completely satisfied by Christ.
- 12:52The penalty was actually paid. The penalty was paid in full.
- 12:56The standard was upheld to the letter.
- 12:58The difference is the intervention of Christ paying
- 13:00the debt, not a fluctuation in God's sense of justice.
- 13:04That makes total sense. So INA sees two different
- 13:06results and assumes two different types of justice.
- 13:09Yeah, he gets the cause and effect all wrong.
- 13:11Owen says no, there is one type of justice, but for one group,
- 13:15the requirement of that justice was met by a proxy.
- 13:18A legal stand in. Right, like if my friend and I
- 13:20both get $1000 speeding tickets and my friend's dad pays his
- 13:24ticket but I have to pay my own, The traffic court it did not
- 13:26change its. Rules.
- 13:27No, the law is still the law. The fine was the exact same for
- 13:30both of us. The law was upheld.
- 13:33The only difference is who wrote the check.
- 13:36That is a really helpful analogy.
- 13:38So scientist is so eager to exclude Christ writing that
- 13:42check that he has to invent this complicated twofold justice
- 13:47completely out of thin air. Yeah, he's grasping at straws.
- 13:50And Owen points out, there is not the most distant mention of
- 13:53this twofold justice in the sacred writings anywhere.
- 13:56Not at all. Furthermore, Owen points
- 13:58straight to the book of Romans to back this up, specifically
- 14:00chapter 3 verses 24 and 25 to just solidify this argument.
- 14:04What do those verses say? They clearly state that the
- 14:07foundation for how God deals with sinners is laid in the
- 14:09blood of Christ. God can be just, meaning
- 14:12maintaining His singular standard while also pardoning
- 14:15the Sinner. Because the justice.
- 14:16Was satisfied? Yeah, precisely because it was
- 14:18satisfied. The text actually says God did
- 14:20this to declare his righteousness.
- 14:22Oh wow, not to hide it. Right.
- 14:24He did not bypass his righteousness to forgive, he
- 14:27actively demonstrated it on the cross by ignoring this
- 14:30mechanism. So Sinus builds his entire
- 14:32premise on a massive theological mistake.
- 14:35OK, so Owen completely blocks So Sinus's attempt to claim God has
- 14:39two different rulebooks. It is a total shutdown.
- 14:43But so Sinus is nothing if not persistent.
- 14:45If he cannot prove the rules are different, he decides to attack
- 14:48the language of the text itself. He pivots hard.
- 14:51He really does. He pivots from a legal argument
- 14:54to an emotional one, since Owen systematically shuts down the
- 14:58idea that God has two different standards.
- 15:00So Sinus shifts to talking about the emotional vocabulary used to
- 15:04describe God. This is a really classic shift
- 15:07in argumentation. When the logical structure
- 15:10fails, you go straight for a semantic argument.
- 15:13You argue about definitions. Yeah, so Sinus looks at the
- 15:15biblical text and says, well, let us examine the specific
- 15:18words being used here. He claims that the word justice
- 15:21is never actually opposed to mercy in the text.
- 15:24So what does he think opposes it?
- 15:26He argues that the concepts that oppose mercy are always called
- 15:29severity, anger, fury or vengeance.
- 15:32He is basically conducting a massive word study to find a
- 15:35loophole. He is flipping through the
- 15:37concordance looking for a way out.
- 15:39Right. And from this vocabulary, so a
- 15:41scientist concludes that when God punishes Finn, it does not
- 15:45come from an inherent structural attribute called justice.
- 15:48He thinks it is just a feeling. Yeah, he argues.
- 15:51It comes from these emotions. It comes from anger and
- 15:53severity. Therefore, punishing sin is just
- 15:56an emotional reaction, not a fixed legal necessity.
- 15:59Owen calls this a huge blunder. First of all, he points out that
- 16:03it is just factually incorrect to say the text never uses
- 16:06justice when describing punishment.
- 16:08The Bible does that all the time.
- 16:10It does. God is frequently said to be
- 16:12just specifically when he is judging or punishing.
- 16:16But more substantially, Owen has to clarify the theological
- 16:19nature of God's anger. Which is super important.
- 16:21It is, he introduces, a really brilliant philosophical
- 16:25distinction regarding how we interpret these emotional terms
- 16:28when they are applied to the divine nature.
- 16:30Let us examine that distinction carefully, because you know,
- 16:33when we hear words like anger or fury, we immediately picture
- 16:37human emotions. Of course we do.
- 16:39We picture someone losing their temper, their face turning red,
- 16:42their heart rate spiking. We picture a boss yelling at an
- 16:45employee or a driver having terrible road rage.
- 16:48A complete loss of composure. Yeah, but Olin argues that God
- 16:53does not have troubled affections.
- 16:55That term troubled affections is so key here.
- 16:58Think about what human anger actually is.
- 17:01In reality it is reactive. It is a knee jerk thing.
- 17:04Yeah, it is a fluctuation in our state of being.
- 17:07It is often accompanied by a loss of control or a sudden
- 17:10spike in adrenaline. Right, our blood pressure goes
- 17:12up. Exactly.
- 17:14But classical theology, which Owen defends heavily here,
- 17:17maintains the doctrine of divine impassability.
- 17:20That is a big word. What does impassability mean?
- 17:23It means God is perfect and entirely unchanging.
- 17:26He does not suffer emotional fluctuations.
- 17:29He does not have bad days. He does not get stressed out by
- 17:31what we do. He's never caught off guard.
- 17:34Spot on. Therefore, words like anger and
- 17:37fury do not describe God's internal emotional reality in
- 17:40the way they describe ours. So what are those words actually
- 17:43doing in the text? I mean, if God is not actually
- 17:46losing his temper and throwing lightning bolts in a fit of
- 17:49rage, why use words like fury and vengeance at all?
- 17:52That is the big question. Owen explains that these words
- 17:55describe the effects of God's corrective justice in a way that
- 17:59finite human beings can comprehend.
- 18:01It is an accommodation for us. Yeah, we call this speaking
- 18:04analogically because we're finite.
- 18:06We need analogies to understand the infinite.
- 18:09I mean language we can grasp. Right.
- 18:11When a human acts out of severe anger, the result is very often
- 18:15punishment or destruction. So when God applies his perfect,
- 18:19unchanging justice and the result is punishment or
- 18:22destruction, the text uses the human concept of anger to
- 18:26describe the receiving end of that justice.
- 18:29I want to use a modern analogy to explain this, because getting
- 18:31past our human ideas of anger is just crucial to understanding
- 18:35Owen. Go for it.
- 18:36Think about a computer firewall or an automated immune system.
- 18:39When a destructive virus enters a computer network, the security
- 18:42software instantly isolates and deletes it aggressively.
- 18:45Just wipes it out. Right, but the software is not
- 18:48angry at the virus. It does not have a temper.
- 18:51It is simply executing its core programming to protect the
- 18:54system. It is just doing what it was
- 18:56made to do. Yeah, we might look at how fast
- 18:58and brutally the virus was deleted and call the software
- 19:01ruthless or severe, but those are just our human words for
- 19:06it's perfect, unchanging defense mechanism.
- 19:08That makes a lot of sense. Is so Sinus basically confusing
- 19:12the destructive outcome with a human temper tantrum?
- 19:14That is right on the money. So Sinus sees the harsh penalty
- 19:18and just assumes God must be acting out of a personal
- 19:21emotional outburst. He projects human weakness onto
- 19:24God. Yes, he assumes the sentence is
- 19:26driven by volatile fury. But Owen is saying no.
- 19:29God is acting purely out of justice.
- 19:31He is executing the programming of his perfect moral nature.
- 19:35It is cool calculated perfection.
- 19:37Right. God does not punish sins because
- 19:39he is angry in a human emotional sense.
- 19:42He punishes them because he is essentially just.
- 19:44The standard demands it. Yeah, the anger is merely our
- 19:47human conceptualization of what it feels like to face that
- 19:50perfect justice when we have broken the law.
- 19:52It is a massive category error on Sinus's part.
- 19:56He is taking analogical language meant to help humans understand
- 19:59the severity of the penalty, and he is trying to reverse engineer
- 20:03it to claim God's justice is just a fluctuating emotional
- 20:07state. He completely misreads the
- 20:09intent of the text. And you can see why he wants to
- 20:11do this. He wants punishment to be an
- 20:13emotional reaction so that it can be optional.
- 20:16Because emotions pass. Right, you can choose to calm
- 20:19down. You can take a deep breath,
- 20:20count to 10, and just decide not to act on your anger.
- 20:24But you cannot choose to ignore a fundamental requirement of a
- 20:27perfect legal standard. That is it.
- 20:29If it is an emotion, God can just get over it.
- 20:32If it is justice, it has to be satisfied.
- 20:35The bank still wants its money, even if the teller is in a good
- 20:38mood. Right.
- 20:39So having failed to prove that justice is twofold, and having
- 20:43failed to reduce punishment to just an emotional outburst, so
- 20:46Sinus tries one last philosophical maneuver.
- 20:49He is running out of options. He is, he decides to redefine
- 20:52the very concept of justice. Just change the dictionary
- 20:55definition. Yeah, he tries to redefine it as
- 20:58a broad, generic preference for doing good, rather than a strict
- 21:02requirement to punish evil. This moves us right into his
- 21:06arguments concerning universal justice versus particular
- 21:09justice. The sources outline this
- 21:12transition very clearly. It is a big shift in his
- 21:15approach. So Sinus argues that whenever
- 21:17the term universal justice is used in the text, it just means
- 21:20the infinite rectitude or equity of God's nature.
- 21:24What does he actually mean by rectitude?
- 21:26Rectitude basically means straightness or moral
- 21:28uprightness. It just means doing what is
- 21:31right. Okay, sounds good so far.
- 21:33Yeah, but according to Suicinus, this rectitude primarily means
- 21:36doing good to the wretched, despised race of mankind and
- 21:40making them partakers of His glory.
- 21:43Notice what he is doing here. He is defining universal justice
- 21:46almost entirely in terms of benevolence.
- 21:48He is making justice mean being nice.
- 21:51Yeah, he is acquitting justice with doing nice things for
- 21:54unworthy people. And from this premise, he
- 21:56reaches his ultimate conclusion. He claims that punitory justice,
- 22:00you know, the specific drive to punish sin, is not a virtue
- 22:04inherent in God at all. He claims it is just an effect
- 22:07of God's will. This is a huge philosophical
- 22:10distinction, He is saying. Punishing sinners is accidental
- 22:14rather than proper to God's nature.
- 22:17Accidental like a mistake. No, and that is important to
- 22:20clarify by accidental in the 17th century philosophical
- 22:25context. He does not mean a mistake like
- 22:27tripping over a rug or spilling a glass of water.
- 22:30OK, what does he mean then? He means it is a secondary
- 22:32characteristic. Think about water.
- 22:35The essence of water is that it is wet.
- 22:37That is a property of its nature.
- 22:38It has to be wet to be water, right?
- 22:41But water can also be cold or hot.
- 22:43The temperature is an accidental property.
- 22:45It is a condition that can change without altering the
- 22:48basic fact that it is water. Whether it is ice or steam, it
- 22:51is still H2L. Yes.
- 22:53So Sinus is arguing that punishing sin is like the
- 22:56temperature of the water. It is a choice God makes based
- 22:59on His will, not a fundamental property of His being.
- 23:02Owen's counter argument here is incredibly sharp, he tells us.
- 23:06Sinus that you cannot use the existence of universal justice
- 23:10to negate particular justice. He calls out the logical
- 23:13fallacy. Yeah, Owen agrees that God has
- 23:16infinite universal rectitude. Of course he does.
- 23:19But he argues that particular justice, the actual act of
- 23:22punishing sin, is what he calls an egress of that universal
- 23:26rectitude. An egress, an outward
- 23:28expression. Yes, exactly.
- 23:30It is the necessary outward expression of God's perfect
- 23:32internal rectitude whenever sin enters the picture.
- 23:35It is the reaction. Right.
- 23:37Think of it like a perfectly straight ruler.
- 23:39That straightness is its universal nature.
- 23:41If you place a crooked, bent piece of wire next to it, the
- 23:44straight ruler immediately exposes the crookedness.
- 23:47Because of the contrast. Yeah, exposing the crookedness
- 23:50is the particular action, but it's just a natural, unavoidable
- 23:53consequence of the ruler's universal straightness.
- 23:56The ruler is not trying to be mean to the wire.
- 23:58No, punishing sin is the necessary reaction of perfect
- 24:02rectitude encountering moral evil.
- 24:04This brings up the massive theological distinction between
- 24:08God's will and God's nature. It is a crucial dividing line.
- 24:11It really is. If punishing sin is just a
- 24:14choice of His will, as the sinus claims, then God could simply
- 24:17choose to ignore sin entirely. You could just brush it.
- 24:20Off he could decide one day, you know, I will not punish that.
- 24:23I am feeling generous today. But if it is a property of his
- 24:27nature, as Owen argues, then God cannot ignore sin without
- 24:31violating his own perfection. He would have to deny himself
- 24:35right. If God were to ignore sin, he
- 24:37would literally cease to be perfectly just.
- 24:40He would be like a straight ruler deciding to bend itself
- 24:44just to accommodate the crooked wire.
- 24:46And again, Owen returns right to Romans 3.24 and 25 to anchor
- 24:51this philosophical point in the text.
- 24:53He wants to show it as biblical. He always goes back to the text.
- 24:56He points out that Christ was set forth as a propitiation
- 25:00specifically to declare God's righteousness for the remission
- 25:02of sins. We should probably unpack that
- 25:04word propitiation. Definitely is another heavy
- 25:07piece of theological jargon. Yeah, propitiation basically
- 25:10means an action designed to soothe or satisfy wrath and
- 25:13restore favor. It fixes the breach.
- 25:15Right. In this context, it means
- 25:17Christ's sacrifice absorbed the penalty of the broken law,
- 25:20completely satisfying the demands of justice so that God
- 25:23could actually show favor to humanity.
- 25:26So the cross is the proof. The cross is the absolute proof
- 25:29that God's justice is a matter of his nature.
- 25:32Think about it logically. If justice were merely a matter
- 25:35of will, if God could have just forgiven sin by making a choice
- 25:39to forget about it, the cross would be an entirely unnecessary
- 25:43tragedy. A horrible mistake.
- 25:45Yeah, why would God subject Christ to that level of
- 25:48suffering if he could have just flipped the switch and pardoned
- 25:51everyone? You would not have.
- 25:52Exactly. The fact that Christ had to die
- 25:55demonstrates that God's perfect nature demanded a legal
- 25:58resolution to the problem of sin.
- 26:00I do have a probing question about the implications of this
- 26:03distinction, though, because you know, when modern people hear
- 26:06this, they bristle a bit. It can sound very rigid to
- 26:08modern ears. It does.
- 26:10If Owen is right and justice is an absolute requirement of God's
- 26:14nature, does this mean God's hands are tied?
- 26:17That is of the common objection. Yeah.
- 26:19Is God somehow constrained by his own nature so that he is
- 26:23forced to demand a penalty? It almost sounds like justice is
- 26:27a higher power, a force greater than God that he has to submit
- 26:31to. Does that not make God less
- 26:33sovereign? This is perhaps the most common
- 26:36misunderstanding of Owen's position, and it is a really
- 26:39brilliant question. How does Owen handle it?
- 26:41Well, people assume that having an unchanging nature is a
- 26:44restriction. We love flexibility in our
- 26:47culture. We want to keep our options
- 26:48open. Right.
- 26:49We think freedom means the ability to do whatever we want
- 26:52whenever we want, changing our minds on a whim.
- 26:55But we have to reframe how we think about constraint when
- 26:57we're talking about a perfect being.
- 26:59OK, so. Acting consistently with perfect
- 27:02righteousness is not a limitation, it is the very
- 27:05definition of divine perfection. So it is not an external rule he
- 27:09has to follow. It is not a boss looking over
- 27:11his shoulder. No, it is who he is.
- 27:14Think of a perfectly truthful person.
- 27:16A truthful person is not constrained or forced to tell
- 27:19the truth. They tell the truth because it
- 27:21is in their character to do so. Lying would be contrary to their
- 27:24nature. Right.
- 27:25In the same way, God is not submitting to some external
- 27:28love, justice that sits above him in the universe.
- 27:31He is acting in perfect harmony with His own infinite goodness.
- 27:36That is a big difference. It is huge.
- 27:38To suggest that God should be able to act against his own
- 27:41perfect justice is to suggest that God should have the freedom
- 27:44to be imperfect, which is absurd, and that is a logical
- 27:47contradiction. His inability to ignore sin is
- 27:51actually the guarantee of his absolute moral purity.
- 27:54That reframes the entire debate. I mean, so Sinus thought he was
- 27:58defending God's freedom and mercy by making justice a matter
- 28:01of choice. He thought he was doing God a
- 28:03favor. He really did.
- 28:05But Owen reveals that by making justice optional, so Sinus was
- 28:08actually degrading the perfection of God's nature.
- 28:10He was making God legally inconsistent.
- 28:13He was making God look like a flaky judge.
- 28:15Right. So let us distill the core
- 28:17takeaways from this whole deep dive because we have covered a
- 28:20massive amount of theological ground today.
- 28:22We really have. We started with so sinus down in
- 28:24the basement trying to pull out the load bearing pillar of
- 28:27divine justice so that the necessity of Christ's cross
- 28:31would just collapse. And we saw how John Owen
- 28:33reinforced that pillar from every possible angle.
- 28:36He brought in the steel reinforcements.
- 28:38He did. He demonstrated that justice is
- 28:40not twofold, with different standards for different people.
- 28:43The law remains the law. The standard does not bend.
- 28:46Right. He showed that biblical language
- 28:49about anger describes the unchanging application of
- 28:52justice against evil, not a fluctuating emotional reaction
- 28:55or a loss of temper. God.
- 28:56Is not having a tantrum. No, and he established that
- 28:59punishing sin is not an accidental choice of God's will,
- 29:03but the necessary expression of his perfect nature.
- 29:06For John Owen, punitory justice is not a secondary, optional
- 29:10setting that God can toggle on and off depending on his mood.
- 29:14It is an essential attribute of his very being.
- 29:16It is who he is. And because it is essential,
- 29:19Christ's satisfaction is the only possible way this perfect
- 29:22justice and perfect mercy can meet.
- 29:24The cross is the only solution. Yeah, the cross is not a human
- 29:29fiction like so Sinus claimed. It is the absolute center of
- 29:33reality. It is the place where the
- 29:35immovable requirement of justice was met by infinite mercy.
- 29:39Understanding the absolute necessity of God's justice
- 29:41drastically elevates the magnitude of the pardon.
- 29:44It really changes how you see it.
- 29:45It does. When we realize that forgiveness
- 29:48could not be achieved by God simply brushing sin under the
- 29:51rug or changing the rules, we start to actually grasp the
- 29:55actual cost involved. It was not a cheap pardon.
- 29:57Not at all. And that is precisely why this
- 30:00historical debate matters to you right now.
- 30:02It is so easy to view forgiveness as a casual
- 30:05dismissal of wrongdoing. You know, divine.
- 30:08Hey, do not worry about it. A free pass.
- 30:10Right. But Owen shows us that
- 30:12forgiveness is a legally secure reality, purchased at an
- 30:15unimaginable cost. God's justice was not bypassed,
- 30:19It was fully met. Every single requirement.
- 30:21Which leaves us with a specific lingering question for you to
- 30:24ponder long after this audio finishes.
- 30:26Something to think about. If God's justice is an
- 30:29unchangeable part of his nature, how does that shift the way you
- 30:32view the smaller daily injustices in the world around
- 30:37you? That is a great question.
- 30:39Does knowing there is an absolute, unavoidable standard
- 30:42of justice waiting at the end of all things change how you react
- 30:46when you are wrong today? It certainly gives you
- 30:48perspective. It really does.
- 30:50We want to thank you for joining us for this session of reform
- 30:52thinking. We will catch you on the next
- 30:54deep dive.