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Karen's DUI, RHONJ 2026 return + RHOC Clique · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the.
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  Speaker 2: King of Reality TV and one of.
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  Speaker 1: The most sought after executive producers in reality television with
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  Speaker 1: over ten years a production experience. Twice a week from
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my friends
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  Speaker 1: across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and
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  Speaker 1: revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, rain drops.
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  Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality with the King, the girls
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  Speaker 1: are back, Honey and the worth of ru Paul bring
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  Speaker 1: back my girls. And no, I'm not talking about the
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  Speaker 1: queens on Drag Race. I'm talking about the queens on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast Baby. Yes, they came to my show a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and Honey, the comments were commenting. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: talked about what a great collaboration it was, and look,
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  Speaker 1: I love these girls.
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  Speaker 2: They are so hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, if you guys like them or not, I don't
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  Speaker 1: give a ship because I do, and that's all that matters.
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  Speaker 1: But give it up on my love from being All
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  Speaker 1: about the Real Housewives podcast Rock Sand and Shanttan.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Hi, Carlos, Carlos, I'm digging your beard. I know
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  Speaker 3: we have to You guys can't see it, but I
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  Speaker 3: am loving the beard.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, honey. Just call me the Black Sans.
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  Speaker 3: I I I give gifts.
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  Speaker 4: We're so happy to be here and this is a
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  Speaker 4: gift to be on your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you cha tell listen, everybody had a lot to
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  Speaker 1: say with you two appeared on my podcast a few
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago, but it was overwhelmingly positive about sexing.
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  Speaker 3: I know, we got we got so many people, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: reaching out to us and they were like, we love
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  Speaker 3: the connection that you guys have with Carlos King. Like
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  Speaker 3: they're like, you guys are so aligned and you guys
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  Speaker 3: just buy really well. And I was like, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 3: all from Michigan. We're all from Detroit, Like of course we.
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  Speaker 1: Did, honey, Midwest of bell Yes, look I am somebody
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  Speaker 1: who do what the fuck I want to do. Let's
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  Speaker 1: say that and listen. I love you girls, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: so happy we get to have a day of hot topic.
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  Speaker 1: So we have to talk about the breaking news that
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  Speaker 1: made me tear up a little bit. Andy Cohen recently
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  Speaker 1: revealed that The Real Housewives of New Jersey is not
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  Speaker 1: returning until the year twenty twenty six, and I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: That was I like, like, what, girls, I am not
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  Speaker 1: okay with this news. I need my girls back. What
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  Speaker 1: is going on in Jersey? What intel do you ladies have?
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you my insight as well.
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  Speaker 3: Well. I actually wanted to ask you what didn't they
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  Speaker 3: do this with Atlanta? They did? They did the exact
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  Speaker 3: same thing. We're Candy was like I'm done waiting, and
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  Speaker 3: Candy basically quit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So even Atlanta is one of the top rated they
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  Speaker 3: did the same thing, So I mean, I guess it's
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  Speaker 3: and look what they did was vander Pump rules, So
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  Speaker 3: I don't It wasn't very shocked.
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  Speaker 4: I was shocked because they andyicupped saying you're not gonna
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  Speaker 4: know until January.
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  Speaker 3: You're not gonna know until January.
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  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden he droves because like
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  Speaker 4: everyone does, keep asking him because everyone wants to know,
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  Speaker 4: and then he came back and was like, you guys
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  Speaker 4: are not getting it until next year, and everyone like
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  Speaker 4: freaked that out, which like it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: To put these girls on such a long way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's crazy. So what this is
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  Speaker 1: what's so interesting? Rock saying you are correct, Atlanta Housewives
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  Speaker 1: suffered through a waiting period, right yeah, and because of that,
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  Speaker 1: Candy Burris did say that she got tired of waiting
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  Speaker 1: and she took the opportunities and ultimately.
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  Speaker 2: She quit the show. So she did quit the show.
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  Speaker 1: She was asked back, she decided to say no because
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  Speaker 1: during that waiting period she had at obligations to do
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  Speaker 1: other stuff and that's what she's doing as we speak.
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  Speaker 1: So Atlanta Housewives is not coming back until twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Five, right, yeah, it's at the end.
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  Speaker 1: So we don't know what month is coming back. We're
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  Speaker 1: hearing March, that's what we're hearing. But again, we just
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  Speaker 1: don't know. They did reveal a clip during the Miami
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  Speaker 1: version of Bravo Khne with Porsche visiting her divorce attorney,
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  Speaker 1: So look, we don't know what's going to happen when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to Atlanta, meaning what month is going to premiere.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right, it did take a long pause. I
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  Speaker 1: am hearing great things.
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  Speaker 2: About it though.
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  Speaker 1: They have four new girls, Shmia being one of them,
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  Speaker 1: Porscha's back, Cynthia's a friend of Kenya is there for
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  Speaker 1: half a season, and Faith comes back two weeks before
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  Speaker 1: they filming and she gets a hold to Peach. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot of surprises there, right, so we forget
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  Speaker 1: to see if it was worth the way I'm hearing
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  Speaker 1: it is, so I can't wait for us to see it.
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  Speaker 1: Now Jersey is significantly different, because let's let's let's have
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  Speaker 1: a real conversation. The biggest choice they have to make
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  Speaker 1: is who do they keep between Teresa and Melissa.
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  Speaker 2: And this is no Shaye to Margaret, this is no
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  Speaker 2: shade to Jennifer Aiden or Dolores.
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  Speaker 1: Right, this big pause has one hundred percent to do
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  Speaker 1: with Teresa or Melissa. Now, with that being said, and
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  Speaker 1: let's be real here, what do you think ultimately is
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  Speaker 1: going to happen? If you guys were flies on the
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  Speaker 1: wall in the decision making, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think that they're going to bring I just can't see
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  Speaker 3: a world where they would bring Melissa over Teresa back
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  Speaker 3: unless Teresa had to spin off so on less TERSA
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  Speaker 3: and I still don't even think they'll bring Melissa back.
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  Speaker 3: I think that they're gonna end up bringing their You know,
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  Speaker 3: Dolores has been really out there, so I think obviously
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  Speaker 3: we all know they're going to bring her, And I
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  Speaker 3: do think they're going to bring Margaret back, even though
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  Speaker 3: Margaret has really nothing going at least, I guess that's
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  Speaker 3: what I prefer. I prefer Margaret to come back over
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  Speaker 3: Melissa any day. But you know, they tried the Melissa
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  Speaker 3: stuff this season where she's not really talking about Teresa,
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  Speaker 3: but she still did, and then they tried bringing her
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  Speaker 3: family into it, and it didn't click. It didn't vibe.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Melissa's out here trying to be an influencer,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel like she can do well with that,
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  Speaker 3: so like she can live that influencer era. She's reminding me,
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  Speaker 3: like very much of like the Kim Kardashian thing, what
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  Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian does and stuff, So I feel like she's
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  Speaker 3: good doing that. You know, she's very social media heavy
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  Speaker 3: and stuff. But I just can't see them ever bringing
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  Speaker 3: her back. I think they just want things to settle
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  Speaker 3: down and go from there and who knows, you know what.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, there's a lot of great people in
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  Speaker 3: Jersey that would be amaz like Italians would be amazing
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  Speaker 3: for reality TV. So if you know, we did a
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  Speaker 3: revamp in New York and it didn't work. But I
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  Speaker 3: feel like if they did something like that in New
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  Speaker 3: Jersey and it was like people who were already friends
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  Speaker 3: and connected, it might work. I agree.
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  Speaker 4: I think I also have to do with who they're
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  Speaker 4: going to bring in New so, like I think that
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  Speaker 4: that was a factor. It's like, is this person gonna
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  Speaker 4: vibe with the Teresa or they're gonna vibe with the Melissa's.
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  Speaker 4: Like I think that's what also they're gonna take in consideration. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they've been interviewing people, Like we know a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people that they've interviewed, so they they've been doing that.
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  Speaker 4: So obviously, like at least the one thing is like,
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  Speaker 4: we know the show is coming back, but it is
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  Speaker 4: going to be very interesting to see what they do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't see a world where a woman who
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  Speaker 1: has been the face of the show since season one,
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  Speaker 1: not like season three.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you a good example.
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  Speaker 1: P Porsia came on season five, right, and arguably she
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  Speaker 1: has immersed herself to be a force multiplier on Atlanta housewise,
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  Speaker 1: and she's young and she brought a very young audience
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  Speaker 1: along with her and she made her mark. So it
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  Speaker 1: makes sense to make Porsche of the face of a
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  Speaker 1: rebooted Atlanta housewise, when let's be real, Herenni Leeks will
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  Speaker 1: remain the face of the franchise, right But if we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about a rebooted version, it does make sense for
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  Speaker 1: Portia to do it because she's done significant iconic thing
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  Speaker 1: since she's been on the show, and she is very
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  Speaker 1: youthful and fresh. So when you bring on youthful and
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  Speaker 1: fresh women, it makes sense that they'll be around Portsche
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  Speaker 1: being the captain of this ship, right the thing. But
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  Speaker 1: Teresa is this Teresa's relevance has never dissipated, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the difference when you think about her and
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  Speaker 1: the other ogs who's coming gone, Teresa is still very
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  Speaker 1: much relevant. Teresa is still very much has so much
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  Speaker 1: personal story.
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  Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, whether or
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  Speaker 2: not you.
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  Speaker 1: Like Louie, you can't negate the fact that there's an
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  Speaker 1: interesting story there when it comes to them that I
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  Speaker 1: worked for Bravo before producing all of these shows and
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  Speaker 1: seasons of it, that you don't want to miss any
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  Speaker 1: sort of story that's going to materialize with Teresa and
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  Speaker 1: Louie and the children. It's just something is always there.
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  Speaker 1: And Teresa is like Christmas Morning, She is the gift
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  Speaker 1: that keeps on giving without even trying hard. And look,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you by Melissa. I've said this once.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say before. Melissa's beautiful. She's a very beautiful woman, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and you cannot take that away from her. She's a
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  Speaker 1: great mom. Her kids are very mannerable, they they're sweet.
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  Speaker 1: She's a great mom. When it comes to being the
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  Speaker 1: face of a friend, I think she can't pull that
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  Speaker 1: job off, right, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what I mean? And and and.
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  Speaker 1: This is no disrespect to Melissa, and I'll i'll and
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  Speaker 1: I'll say this and I said it to Teresa. Melissa
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  Speaker 1: was once great for the show and you can't deny
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  Speaker 1: what she brought to the show courtesy of the interaction
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  Speaker 1: she had with Teresa. However, it doesn't mean she can
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  Speaker 1: carry a show.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: She's young, she's beautiful, and like you said, Rock Sande,
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  Speaker 1: she is sort of like this Bethany Franco influencer at
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  Speaker 1: this point.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that was nice to you, Carlos Kan I'm
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  Speaker 3: just saying, how okay, girl, what Kim Kardashian, What I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying is like Kim Kardashian is you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how old. She's like, you know, mid forties, and
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  Speaker 3: she's still like really wants to be and and and
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  Speaker 3: she looks amazing. And I don't think, you know whatever,
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  Speaker 3: she looks amazing, but she just really wants to still
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  Speaker 3: be out there. She hasn't changed her brand at all.
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  Speaker 3: So that's like what I mean when I'm saying Kim Kardashian,
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  Speaker 3: it's like they really, you know, I don't know, they're
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  Speaker 3: stuck in that influenced era. But in a in a
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  Speaker 3: way that's not I think you're thinking.
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  Speaker 4: Of her like watch what Happens Live out But recently
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  Speaker 4: it was very Kim k like ty here thinking almost
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  Speaker 4: at her nipple.
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  Speaker 3: So that's fine, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so so that's my thing. Now I'm gagging girls.
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  Speaker 1: So you girls think that there's a possibility Mark, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be asked back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, tell me, tell me why? And what what? What?
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  Speaker 2: What info? Do you have? Girls that I don't Well.
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  Speaker 3: No, I just think because with it, I think Margaret
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  Speaker 3: shitting her pants because this is everything to her. She
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  Speaker 3: wants to come back. She hasn't been, as you know,
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  Speaker 3: bad on social media. She's a type who does see
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  Speaker 3: everything but she's kind of smart about it. She has
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  Speaker 3: brought along storylines. I mean, she's been very dirty and
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  Speaker 3: vicious about it. But I do think she is someone
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  Speaker 3: who can maybe take accountability, whereas in with Melissa, Melissa's
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  Speaker 3: never taken accountability for anything, so and people like to say, well,
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  Speaker 3: Teresa hasn't. If you rewatch season three, four and five,
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  Speaker 3: Teresa's saying sorry at least one hundred times, So that's
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  Speaker 3: taking accountability, where like, you know, if I did that,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, That's that's what taking accountability is. So I
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  Speaker 3: just feel like, you know, with Atlanta, they're bringing back
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  Speaker 3: some faces and then they're bringing some new people and
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  Speaker 3: it actually looks like it's gonna be the biggest hit
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  Speaker 3: in a long time. So I feel like they're going
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  Speaker 3: to keep some people. And if they're going to keep
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  Speaker 3: some people, if it's Margaret and Melissa, I do think
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna end up choosing Margaret because Margaret will end
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  Speaker 3: up being able to make peace or you know, even
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  Speaker 3: though like her and Teresa hate each other, I can
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  Speaker 3: see them moving on as long as Melissa's not there.
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  Speaker 4: And I think like if they Melissa back, but Teresa,
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  Speaker 4: it's like what was the whole point of the pause,
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  Speaker 4: Like it would make no sense for it, you know, like,
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  Speaker 4: what were we doing.
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  Speaker 3: This whole time?
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  Speaker 4: If she's if they came back, it'd be the same
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  Speaker 4: show and the same thing that you just saw like
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  Speaker 4: last season. So it would be silly for them to
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  Speaker 4: bring both of them back. And I do think they
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  Speaker 4: would bring Margaret Margaret back over.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was gonna say, how about when Andy
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  Speaker 3: told or most said to Andy, you're making people Why
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  Speaker 3: are you making people way about the show? And He's like,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it took you fifteen years to do the
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  Speaker 3: springs Hilt.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, listen, listen.
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  Speaker 1: Andy Cohen is iconic because at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: he's not only smart and a great businessman, he also
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  Speaker 1: is shady and I love it about him. That was
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  Speaker 1: a fun read, and let's just transition into that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't listen. I try my
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  Speaker 1: best to make sure that I don't come across as
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  Speaker 1: Melissa hater like you girls, because at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, Teresa's my sister her and she's I know,
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  Speaker 1: cool with you guys, and people think I'm a.
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  Speaker 3: I wish we were paid. Well, don't you hate when
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  Speaker 3: people when you have a different opinion than someone, they
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: then say, oh, you must be getting paid. It's like, no,
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  Speaker 3: I just watched the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched the show like you do, and I
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  Speaker 1: have an opinion and it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: But I digress.
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  Speaker 1: I try my best to find the great things my
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  Speaker 1: Melissa once I said it before, she's beautiful, she's a
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  Speaker 1: great mom, and at one point she was a great housewife.
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  Speaker 1: The Sprinkle Cookies bothers me for this reason alone. You
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  Speaker 1: complain about Teresa, you said she's dead to you. You
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  Speaker 1: claim that you aren't in her shadows, that you're not
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  Speaker 1: always a part of her storyline, and you do the
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  Speaker 1: very thing that made you interesting when you first got
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  Speaker 1: on the show because of what Teresa said. And and
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  Speaker 1: for me, it's like, I don't understand why you waited
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  Speaker 1: fifteen years to come out with a line of sprinkle cookies.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not saying they're not delicious. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure they are. Bethany Franco said, is good. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people she sent it to said is good.
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  Speaker 2: Melissa. I'm going on my care package.
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  Speaker 1: I will send it through TSA first, just to make sure.
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  Speaker 2: It's not poisonous. I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 1: But Melissa said, if your care package, I'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: it my podcast. But but I think for me it's this.
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  Speaker 1: If I was on Melissa's team, I would say, if
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to prove to the world that you don't
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  Speaker 1: need any sort of attachment to Teresa, then let's not
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: do it. Will you make money, sure, will you sell out, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: But let's think of the long game here. Let's think
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  Speaker 1: of five years from now, do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like Melissa is always doing something to
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  Speaker 1: extend her fifteen minutes of fame.
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  Speaker 2: I think these sprinkle cookies are this.
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  Speaker 4: Sucks the point because it's like and like and how
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: far are you going to get with just sprinkle cookies.
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  Speaker 3: It's not brand, it's not for your brand.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little product that you're just coming out that
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  Speaker 4: that maybe like, like you said, maybe, I mean, she's
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  Speaker 4: not baking.
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  Speaker 3: It, like it's not her recipe and oh it's not.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not her recipe. So wait, she doesn't use
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  Speaker 2: her name. But wait, wait, wait, wait, I didn't know this.
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  Speaker 1: I thought she literally was in the kitchen concocting some recipe.
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  Speaker 2: No, did she license part.
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  Speaker 4: A baker, like a bakery that you know she's paying
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  Speaker 4: to make the cookies. And then yeah, if you and
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  Speaker 4: if you look at the ingredients, it's not like someone
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  Speaker 4: came up with these ingredients like there there's a.
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  Speaker 3: Whole like like a lot of like shit in there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: she's just using a local person, local bakery from New
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  Speaker 3: Jersey to distribute the cookies. That's all that she's doing.
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  Speaker 3: And she's slapping her name on it, and that's really
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  Speaker 3: all that it is.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Melissa, In the words of Kyle Richards to her
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  Speaker 5: sister kill who talked about Lisa Renda's husband, I can't
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  Speaker 5: defend you in defensive all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, No, I know it really is. You know what though,
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  Speaker 3: I will say, Melissa's PR. She has got a new
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: PR and they're really working it. Like they probably have
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  Speaker 3: spent so much money because they've sent those cookies to
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  Speaker 3: every influencer you can think of, every real househive that
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: you could think of, and then they put in the
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: note like we love if you can share this. So
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: that costs a lot of money. I mean that's not
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: that's not so they have invested so much. I do
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: think like it's a good gag gift, like it's something
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: you're gonna bring to someone's house. But then we just
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: found out that they're not even half of them are
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: not even going out by Christmas time, so that kind
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: of sucks. And what else chante.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Oh shad tell I need to know?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: And now was like, what if you need my name
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: is poisoned them? I don't want to do that. How
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: did it look? How was the packaging? Because I heard
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: the packaging is different than what it.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Was, like it was like a pink box. There's like
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: a pinkin like, yeah, it's it was a pink box.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: It does look nice, but like they were thirty dollars
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: for twelve cookies. I'll bring them on Christmas everex and
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: we'll try them, and you know, I care.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: We'll let you know, Carlos.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: But it yeah, like it took a while though it
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: took me, like it took like over a week for
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: them to get sent too. So like to me, it's
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: just like silly, like you just go down the road,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: go to like I keep saying, whole food or something,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: then get cookies, you know, like that's what.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: You would do. I just needs to gaget like everyone
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: loves the real Housewives, so they're like, oh my god,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna send them to sprinkle cookies. This will be
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: funny on Christmas and and so I mean, like, yeah,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: but I would be so embarrassed, Carlos. I think the
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: reason Melissa did it now is because she knows that
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: her and Teresa are so done, So she's not embarrassed,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: like she's willing to do this because I'm sure Jurisa
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: would be like, you're literally like I want to cut
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: up that if they were good or something, you know.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: So because she knows they're done, she knows that Teresa's
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: not gonna like text her and be like really, bitch.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: So I feel like this was like for her, perfect opportunity.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Plus like she's worried she's not going to come back
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: to the show. But she was saying, you know, like
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I hope that I could create cookies, like and the
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: antonia takes over this business, And I thought that was weird. Yeah,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Carlos is like looking like a crazy right, it's crazy.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Melessa, Oh gods, my thig is this? I really? This
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: is just me big producer.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: So one of the things about being a producer on
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a reality show when you have meetings with reality stars
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: and this is maybe an exclusive for the audience. Nine
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: times out of ten the producer gave the reality star
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: business idea.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: That's so interesting, oh, one thousand percent.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times I have suggested
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: to my reality stars, hey, you should actually do this
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: in terms of a business.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: You should do that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I cannot tell you across my resume how many reality
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: stars I have suggested business ideas too, in order for
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: them to have a storyline and ultimately make money, you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: because that's what you want to do. If I was
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: on Melissa's team, I would say this, you are a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: beautiful canvas.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: You like clothes, You have a store called Envy.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Why don't you partner with she by Chera and come
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: out with an exclusive line?
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I'm like, something that really fits
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: her style, pun intended, and something that to me has
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: staying power. We were just talking about before we recorded,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: me and Chantaba talking about how we shop online, and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Chantellba was saying, like Carlos, I hate going to stores
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: now because a bitch like to see somebody with the
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: outfit on.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: So imagine, imagine if.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Melissa had a TikTok shop and she was able to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: try on the clothes and go live and people buying
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the time for with Charay next to her, Like that's
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the ship that I think.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Nothing long term and things that like are setting you
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: into that person, like we've seen you for the last
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: ten fifteen years talk about clothes. You got so mad
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: when a lecta from Miami said, you like Jersey had
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: the worst fashion because she thinks she has such good fashion.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: So it's like, that's the avenue you should really like
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: straight golden.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Well curls. I have a question, does Bravo get a
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: cut from these things?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: So good question?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: So there is and it's only because she talks about
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: it all the time. The be Anthony clause is correct,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: it's not. It's it's an unofficial word that is called
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the Bethany clause where when you sign onto the reality show,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: you do if you create a business within the season,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the network has the right to expert a cut. I
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: don't know if they ever exercised it, because look, and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: this is this is the honest truth.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Nobody has a mask.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: One hundred million dollar business like like skinny Girl, do
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So based on the earnings
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: of like what the girls make. I don't think it's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: been exercised. Okay, okay, you know what I mean, because
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: it's sort of like, do I really want to take
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: your money based on your making like one hundred thousand
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: dollars in profit?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Do you know what? Yeh?
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but contractfully they do.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's so interesting.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, she said she's gonna do Valentine's Day cookies
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: and I don't know if it'll be just as much
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: as a hit, because again, I think with Christmas people
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: were like, I'm gonna bring this wrong.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I think so too. I think so too.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: How we are just getting started. This is reality with
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the show. So let's shift gears a little bit. The
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: unfortunate news that Karen Huger was found guilty of a
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: d UI, where she now faces up to two years
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: in prison. The video was released of her arrest that
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: broke the internet. I want to hear from you ladies
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: about that. I mean, I'll sell it by saying, look,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I love Karen. Karen is a great housewife, and my
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: thoughts in Prince go out to her and the family.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: It was sad to watch. I couldn't watch all of that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: It was it was just too It was too sad
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: for me. But what do you ladies think about that?
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Is it's something where you think Karen should have accepted
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the plea deal that allegedly was offered to her.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I said, like, it was it's weird that she would
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: go down that route when knowing this is not her
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: first dui. Her DUIs were like earlier, like in like
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: two thousand and six and stuff. But on record, people
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: don't care, like the judge and people see that, so
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter for twenty years ago, thirty years ago,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: she's had three.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Now this is her third one like on record, so it's.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Like, if you know that and you know how people
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: are going to feel, I would have taken a plea deal.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I would never have brought that into the courtroom ever,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: and kind of knowing what the state of you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: the state you're in, you're not you're not you're not
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: innocent at all in it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: So I thought it was crazy. Yeah, I was. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: was really disappointed because I thought, you know, like she
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: kept saying, you know, just wait, you'll see and it's
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: like we did see and watching the video was shocking.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: It was uncomfortable, But it also made me mad because
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you have been handling this so wrong on
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: the show. You haven't even been showing any remorse at all.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Then we see these videos and you're literally wasted and
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the fact that you wasted people's time you went to try,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Like that's crazy to me when she's so guilty and
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: she said those things and there on the camera, like
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: it was just very very embarrassing. And I'm sure the
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: ladies are shook it by it too, But I mean
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: that she showed no remorse to me. I mean the
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: way Shannon was acting, you know, I think people could
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: rally behind her because she did take accountability for it,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: whereas in Karen didn't at all. Like you, I really
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: thought she had a case.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the footage was just it was shocking
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: to see that. It was just it was just shocking
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: to see. And and and I do agree with you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: in terms of my question is did the lawyer see it?
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Because what lawyer would say let's go to trial after
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: watching that, because I would be like, let's come up
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: with another plan, because this is what has been alleged, allegedly,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Cameron was offered a plea deal to where she would
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: have six months of house arrested and community service. Right
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: based on the knowledge that I have, and it's limiteds.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I'm out of an attorney. I'm not sing Kardashian, so
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you know, there's no quali after my last name. But
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: allegedly she was offered six months of house arrest in
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: addition to community service, and based on that alone, if
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that is true, If that is true, I I don't
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: quite understand why that wasn't taken. It's it's we all
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: dealt with COVID, We all dealt with our own version
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: of a house arrested during the pandemic, and we sort
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: of made a party for ourselves. We were able to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: like bring the party to us, order Uber East or
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: insta cart, you know, we were able to do things
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to where we didn't feel so isolated. So I don't
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: understand that. But someone did say this, and I'm gonna
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: get you lady's thoughts on this. Somebody did say that
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the reason they feel like Karen did not accept the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: alleged plea deal is because she did not want to
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: face the music on the Oh.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, that's exactly what I thought. Like, I
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: feel like the reason that she did in this because
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: she's like, oh my gosh, the media is gonna, you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be headlines about how I'm on house arrest
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: and all this stuff, and I feel like she would
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: be so mortified. Then the girls would all come for
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: her for it, and I think that really has everything
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: to do with it. But then it's like, look what happened. Now,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: now you're really like you're gonna have something that happens
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: that's way worse than what you could have taken.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: So she was definitely living in delululand like I don't
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: know if she didn't know that, like she does have
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: a problem or she did have ay problem that night,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: she was definitely I don't think she was understanding. I
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: don't think she like understood that she wanted to be
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: like labeled as what she's going to get labeled.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Now. There's no way her lawyer didn't have access to
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: that one percent. He did.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild that listen.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Listen, when you are a public figure, and I tell
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: people this all the time, Excuse me, I tell people
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: this all the time. When you are a public figure.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: You gotta have the right people around you. You can't
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: have yes people. And I'm not saying this lawyer say yes, person, yes.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: What I am saying is if your lawyer did not say, look,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: take the plea, fuck this show the storyline, deal with
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: that shit. If I was somebody in Karen's life, I
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: would say, girl, yeah, fuck.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: The storyline on the show.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: If anything go in, be remorseful, because my thing is
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: this and this is why reality stars. You guys gotta
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: you gotta understand that social media is not the real world,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and you got to understand that TV's TV. In some cases,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I would have said to Karen, look, apologize, be remorseful,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, what can people
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: say to you after that?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Like, if you're saying I fucked up, it was bad,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I made a mistake. I'm going to you know, I'm
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: gonna do the right thing in community service whatever. I
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: will never drink again. I think your cast, I believe this.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Your cast would say, well, fuck she took accomnfortability for it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: We will look like assholes and we keep beating this
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: over her head.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: The problem is Karen only surrounds herself with people who
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: are yes people. She I know you're saying that, but
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I don't think Karen will f with you if you
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: have a different opinion. So I feel like people sense
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: that and feel that, and so it's either Karen's way
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: or no way, and that's just what she and that's
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: the only way that she'll tolerate and talk to you
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: and be okay with you. So I'm sure the attorney
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: did say I don't recommend this, and I'm sure she
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: was like, well, no, we're gonna do what I say.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I'm paying you. I can see that with Karen. I
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: don't know, because it just doesn't make sense. No lawyer.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I guess we have to look up who this attorney is,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: because no attorney would ever, you know, suggest that she
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: has a better chance taking this a trial with videos
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Well this better be a good reality chuck, That's all
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: I'll say, because she needs to have people put her
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: in chuck.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Once again, our thoughts in Prince got to Karen the
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: family and look, I'm great, fun thankful that she wasn't
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: hurt and that she did not hurt any and that's
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and that's that's what we're grateful for But ladies, how
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: do you guys feel, are you grateful or not that
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Alexis being that Alexis Bellino was not asked back to
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Orange County.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: So, well, here's the thing. So I saw that you
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: did an interview with her and she says to you, Carlos,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: what could I have done different? And just her asking that,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: and you were like, and I think you said something
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: we put on all about Terry shock coam. But I
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: think you said something where you were just like constantly
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: defending John when you didn't need to. You said it
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: way better. But just her asking that after the fact
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: is why I think Brabo made the right decision, because
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: she still doesn't get it. She still doesn't understand it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: If she's asking you that question, I would have.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Liked to see, you know, the relationship still, like maybe
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: things might happen, or there might be a double wedding
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: with her and Jen like them planning the weddings like
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: that could have been interesting to me to see and
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: then maybe we could have seen her have a little bit.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Like you said, if she doesn't even know what she
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: did wrong, how could she have remorse? But maybe she
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: could have like tried a little bit with Hannan a
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: little bit more, and we could have saw that saw
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: that that would have been a great That would have
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: been a great season too. So I am kind of
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: sad that she's not asked back, even though I came
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: for her all season long because she was just she
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: was just wild.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: But I am sad.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm not shocked. I'm not shocked at all.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not shocked. I did hear from my sources that
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: allegedly Alexis was told to dollar down and she just
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: didn't listen. I was told that. Not sure if that's
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: true or not, but that's I was told that. But
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I do think this. She gave a lot to this season,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: whether you liked it or not, Like she gave a lot,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and and listen, when it comes to our job as
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: podcast host, what she gave is great for our job
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: because we can you know what I.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Mean, we get.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: No swearing it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: We love it. I love it. So she gave a
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: lot to the show.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And what I did say to her was like, you
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: gotta again, it's all about having the right people in
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: your ear, whether not you listen to them or not,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: but you have to because I would have shaken her like, girlfriend,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: stop defending this man. He's not president. And if they
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: bring it up, change the subject. Because one thing Shannon did,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: which whoever Shannon has in her life, Shannon give them
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a nice Christmas gift because the way she play did
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to me and and girls think about it. The first
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: fucking episode, the first event she approached Alexis, she said,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: let's just get this over with. That that showed me
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that she understood the assignment and that she said I'm
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: going to take control of the narrative. And Shanna Badoor again,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: whether you like her or not, she was the smartest
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: player this season. Because you would think that everybody would
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: be like, oh my gosh, you have to DOUI with
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: You're a bad person. Whatever the case may be. She
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: was able to what you lady said earlier. She was
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: able to own it. Appolo died to be accountable and
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: honestly deal with in a way that you felt like,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: whether or not she's gonna stop drinking is her prerogative.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell her what to do.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: But because she had Tamra attagonize her and I told
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Tama this too.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I said, girl, you went way too hard.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: To the point where I'm even looking at you sideways
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and I like you, but even I'm like, damn Tamara,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: like he's up over her, Like that's what she's going
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: through is so bad. But Alexis is just I just
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: don't know what else she could have done after.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: The show was shocked.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I think it was like, girl, there's nothing you can do,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: even a press run.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of a lot of the you know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: the Bravo stars are like out of touch with what
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: we might actually think about what's happening. So like they
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: think we're gonna think one way and then all of
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: a sudden, and it could be the production and how
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: it's produced, but all of a sudden, like like the
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: whole Tamar and Channing situation, we are thought they all
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: thought we were gonna be on you know, Tamra's side,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: but like everyone rallied around Shannon, So it's like no
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: one they don't really realize what we're gonna take away
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: from watching the show. And I think they think about
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: it way too much and they shouldn't.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Tamara did say Tama had said She's like
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I never in a million years thought the viewers were
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: gonna react to me that they've reacted, and so it's like, okay,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: so you didn't think that, So you treated Channon worse
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: and worse every episode because you thought that that's what
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: we were gonna want to see. That's like so messed up.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: You know, that's that was someone that you actually considered
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: your friend. How can you do that to someone you
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: considered your friend who is already at their lowest and
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: then you bring that man his new girlfriend to the show.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: That's a lot on someone.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, totally, totally, totally.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Speaking of friendship, Heather, Gina, Emily, Shannon, and Tamra had
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: a holiday bestie brunch. To the point girls, they I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: think exchanged bracelets.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Bracelett Yeah, grow up, how you really feel?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Go hit sister, well.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Grow up because you're excluding people grow up with the
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: matching bracelets, Like I just cannot like why. And then
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: like and then on top of that, like they had
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: to post it, like they posted so much about it
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: that everyone had to see. So it's like it's like
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: almost they're sending a message and like we got it,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: we got it, okay, But it's.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Also like shame on us for going as hard and
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: defending Shannon as hard as we did, because we sat
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: there and we all had her back, and we all,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: you know, Shannon said, yeah, I'm not gonna forgive Tamra,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: and it's not and you should forgive because no one
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: wants to hold on to hate, right because that that
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: does more damage to you. But the fact that you
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: have Shannon and Tamra faces against each other, hugging each
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: other tightly, like that's where it's like, okay, whoa you
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: know where we all just played and at this point,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: just like with Heather, you know that one season Chantal
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: where a Tamra turned on Heather and was so shady.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: We defended Heather, we had her back. We felt so bad,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: How can I'm gonna do that to her? The next season,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Heather comes back and she's Shannon's best friend and or
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Tamer's best friend, and anything Tamar did she could let go,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: and she's not someone who lets go of things. So
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: we were like, oh, shame on us, Like we went
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: so hard to like defend her. We felt so bad
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: for her, and then we did the same thing with
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Shannon and now Shannon. I don't know what the hell
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Tamar has on them. I'll never know but now she's
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: like BFF and it's fine to gradually get there, but
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: for it to happen this quick that just like shows
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: you how scary it all is. Like how even Shannon
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: like we're such losers, dude, we had her back so
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: hard for what And it's funny to me.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Like also Gina and Emily, it's like they're so happy
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: to be in the cool girls club, Like they're so happy,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: so it's like they're not they're not there to be,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: like they're not there to be like hey, let's let's
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: not exclude people or whatever, because they're just excited to
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: be at the table.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: They're like, let's go. Well they're done because they think, oh,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: by the way, Carlos, we were the one. I think
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: someone came on your episode and we were the one
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: about the babysitter thing.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: With oh yeah, listen, I'm somebody who clearly don't listen
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to people who try to tell me how to do
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: my job. We're like, who, I should have my podcast
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: because you ladies the actual like nanny.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah no, we had all the so we
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: had everything. We didn't release it though, because we were like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: we're not going to release it because that's like someone's kids.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: We're not going to release it. But I mean, we
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: spoke directly to the nanny. We saw the pictures ourselves
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: of her. It wasn't a nanny, we keep calling it
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: to nanny. It was a babysitter. We spoke directly to
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: the babysitter who had Jaxon. We know that Emily even
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: reached out to the babysitter after going ham on her.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: So there's exclusive going to the babysitter came back and
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: told us and it was like, you know, it was like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: you know, very very threatening from Emily, so uh yeah,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: very very threatening. So and we could have made that
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: a huge thing. We could have made that a huge
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: thing because that text was insane, but we didn't because
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: we're just like, all right, we're gonna just drop this
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: because there's you know, obviously it's not about the you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: the kids or anything, but you know, it has an affiliation,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: and we never want to we have morals. We're never
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: going to go that low. We don't want to go
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: low like that. So we just always think it's important
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: to hear everyone's side. And so you know, yeah, I
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: just wanted to let you know because someone was like
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Carlo's like, brought you guys up on his podcast, but
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I guess it wasn't even it was your guest. It
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: was your guest or something. Yeah, and he didn't say
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: who or whatever. So and he had the story like
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: kind of spin where he's like, we don't even know
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: if that's true.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Lie.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: The babysity the ability to ask the questions and give
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: your opinion and allow people to talk about their experience.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: So that's why all of you have to subscribe to
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: All About the Housewives podcast because.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: It's it's a great podcast.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I love it, and they actually have like great guests
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: on guys, So make sure you subscribe to it. But
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I've been saying this in nauseam and that's the reason
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: why I guess so much hate about my opinions about
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: these alliances.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I tell people all the time.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: The Real Housewives, honestly, gone are the days of genuine
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: friendships when it comes to all of them, right, Shannon
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: and Tamra are that cool because they both need each other.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Tamra needs Shannon to stop the social media hate, and
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Shannon needs Tamara because at the end of the day,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Tama's good television. Will they ever be back being besties.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Heather needs to get in where she fits in, right.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: She is the one, in my opinion, who holds the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: most grudges because Happen's real friends make ten million dollars
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: plus they live in Palm Beach, do you know what
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I mean? Like happens real friends are none of these
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: girls like like Heather's friends are like upper echelon society,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you know, Lisa, Vanda, palm Adria, Maloop.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Like that's her circle.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: So in order for Heather to remain on this show
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and have the ladies be scared of her, she has
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: to be friends with them. When I was at Kathy
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Hilton's party, Heather hung out all night with Gina and
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Emily all night, all night, all night.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: That's wow, That's probably mean Emily's day or her night
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: because Emily has been dying to get in Heather's good
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: grace all night.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: And that's myself.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Heather's playing it well, like she she knows she has
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: to like befriend these ladies and listen, I love but
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: let's let's call it spade a spade.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: They're happy to be with the cool girls. It is,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: and it is.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I will take this with you the reason why. On
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Alexi's podcast, I said to her, but Alexis, you said
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: that Tamara and.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Heather were your real friends.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: How did you feel about that scene that ended part
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: three reunion where they pretty much threw you and John
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: under the bus? She told me on her podcast they
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: did not give her heads up. She had to watch
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: it in real time. Her feelings were hurt. She said
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: that her and Tamar had lunched two days prior, and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: that Tamer said nothing about it, and that her and
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Heather were trying to talk about it after air, and
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Heather said, well, something along the lines of like, let's
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: let's let's table this and talk about it later. And
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, have you heard from them? And she said no?
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: And I said, do you still think they're your real friend?
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And again, this is no shame. She's like, I have
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a lot to think about now. So my thing is this,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: these ladies have to show and prove that we are
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: going to give you guys a show about real friendships.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Which whatever, I felt bad for Jennifer, if I'm being
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: completely honest, Yeah, jan really thought that Shannon at least
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: had her back. And I'm gonna say this and I'm
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: not gonna take it back. Shannon's loyalty is to her
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: orange and that's it.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, I agree. You know what, I totally
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: agree that I think for Shannon, what you know them
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: because I guess, like Alexis said that she's so good
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: with Jennifer and Katie, so I'm assuming Shannon's upset about that.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: But it's like Tamer and Heather were literally advocating for
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: her and saying, we're close friends with Alexis, So why
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: is that okay? Why are you able to move on?
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think that John and Katie had
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: this like crazy relationship with Alexis at all. I just think,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: you know, Alexis was nice to them. They're being nice back,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: That's what I saw on TV. So I think for
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: them to forgive certain people, are Shannon to be like,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: you know, all of a sudden hugging Tamara when Tamer
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: was like, Alexis is my friend, and you know Tamor
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: throughout the whole season, wasn't she didn't anything Alexis did
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: it was fine in Tamra's eyes. So I don't know,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: I just think that's super messy, and I too, I
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: do really feel bad for jhen m Katie. That was
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: so messed up.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but again it goes to show you
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: everything they did was strategic. To me, the matching bracelets
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: made me barf because it was sort of like show
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I like to watch the reality of people who are
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: being real. No woman forty plus is exchanging matching bracelets,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Like what in the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants is
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: going on here? It was so like it was it
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: much for social media, father and to add insult to injury,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: they all tagged each other and invited each other as
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: collaborated to this post, and I was like, this shit
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: is so like why I saw that.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Like Vicky like made a comment like, oh, sorry, I
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: couldn't make it, but like I think he's just being
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: he's being funny unless you really did invited. But I
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: was like, seriously, like that's how I would say.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like, sorry, I couldn't make it. Yeah, if they
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: were smart, they wouldn't. They wouldn't enter a new season
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: like this. Like the fact that they are willing to
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: be villains again is crazy to me because obviously we
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: see Katie and Jen aren't there, and it's like that,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: you know, like the the mean girl, like, oh we meet,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: we got matching bracelets, like the Fox five stuff on
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Very Little Hill? Is that what they were called? Fox five? Well? Yeah,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: whatever the hell that was. That was so stupid. That
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: was the dumbest thing ever. And it's like, I feel
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: like that's kind of how they're going to enter the season,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: is acting like they're that group, and it's like, hey,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: you guys are going to come out on top, so
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: change your strategy seriously, I know.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we see how.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: How far the Fox Force five relationship got in exactly. Guys,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Listen to me when I say the only real friendships
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: across all of the real housewives, and I've said this
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: once and I'll say it again, the only real friendships
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: is Alexis and Marisol from Miami and Giselle and Robin
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: from Potomac.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: And you know what, it's like they never fought and
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: like that's how you know. It's like they they'll fight
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: because like they're sisters, but they'll never like, you know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: betray them, like betray them.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Well, what about Gina and now they'll each other?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Listen, I love Listen. I'm gonna say this. I'm just
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: being honest.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: With you.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: If the cool girls out sit one of them to
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the degree of like, because we all make mistakes.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: So let me give you an example.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: If Gina made a mistake that obviously we all feel like, okay,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: that's the fucked up thing to do, Gina, and all
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the girls out sit Gina. I promise you, Emily will
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: go with the cool girls. I promise you. It's just
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: to the point where they have to feel like this
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: is going to keep me my job and I have
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: to make sure that I choose my paycheck over my friendship.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Listen, there's a lot of pressure on them, and I
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: do feel bad for that. There is a lot of
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: pressure because they all want to come back the next
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: season and they're all, you know, really excited about the
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: money and now they're used to it, so there is
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of pressure. But maybe maybe there shouldn't be
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: as much pressure then, I don't know. I mean, you're
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: a producer, Like, what do you think about that? Because
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I know that producers do sometimes pressure and be like
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: this is boring, come on, what are we gonna do?
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: What are we gonna do? And you're like so scared
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: that you're not going to make it to the next season.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: So you're like, I'm about to, you know, act like
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: the biggest piece of shit for money. So what do
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: you what is your thoughts on that?
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a good question.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: The reason why I have great relationships with my girls
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: from Housewives is because I never I never produced that way.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I always follow the reality. So a good example would
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: be Ninia Cynthia. Right, they start off as friends and
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: then things went awry during season six when Peter and
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Nini got into it New Mexico, where Nini called Peter
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: bitch and it sort of felt like, Okay, what is
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Cynthia supposed to do after that? When your best friend
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: calls her husband a bitch? And like, where do you
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: go from there? And Cynthia decided to, like, you know,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: venture a little bit away and create a distance between.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Her and Nini, and Nini talked about that.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Us producer, we were like, okay, talk about that, because
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: we want to be able to see you guys reconcile.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I love a reconciliation of friendship. I said this before.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I was very, very very adamant to Kenyan Phaedra, like, guys,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: this shit is boring. You guys arguing about the same
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: thing on a hamster. Weell like, can you guys at
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: least address it to move on if you don't want
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: to be best friends, that's okay. I do think some
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: not all, but some of the newer producers who look
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: at social media, they do try to like create this
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: sort of like negative space when it comes to the friendships.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: But that's why I appreciate Gazelle and Robin's friendship so much,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: because even when Robin was read by all of us,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: including social media, about how she handled the wand situation,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that Gizelle gave her a harsh reality check,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: but never to the point where you felt like Gazelle
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: threw her under the bus. And that to me, that
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: to me is real friendships. And my last example would
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: be Teresa and Jacqueline. I did the first two seasons
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: of Jersey, so I was there when things were great.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: But I remember Teresa calling me saying like I can't
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: believe me and Jacqueline are like about to have a
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: falling out.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: And I said, oh no, no, you can't like.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Save it like that's your because I knew for.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: A fact, like, no, Jacqueline loves you.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: And maybe there's other things going on like whatever, And
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm happy they're back being friends, because you
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: gotta save the friendships and not try to tear them apart.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and I think that's what viewers want
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: to see.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: So, oh my gosh, girls, I am obsessed with the
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: two of you. I said, I'll always welcome back to
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the podcast and we can always dish and as we
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: sort of wait for another year to see Teresa and
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Dolores's return.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: See what I did.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: There, you know, Yes, yes, I will bet the farm
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: on Teresa and Delora's attorney. But look, we will talk
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: about that when it happens and when it gets announced.
• 50:37
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• 51:06
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• 51:08
  Speaker 1: No, I will thank you ladies, happy holidays, and I'll
• 51:11
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• 51:13
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  Speaker 1: King is a production of Kingdom Reign Entertainment, an executive
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  Speaker 1: produced by me Carlos King, Kingdom Reign Entertainment, Baby,