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David Pollack on Every Day Counts, NFL Injury, and Faith · Crosswalk Talk: Celebrity Christian Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Life Audio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey David, thanks for joining me. Thank you for having me,
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  Speaker 2: but I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: David Pollack college Football Hall of Famer and former University
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  Speaker 3: of Georgia All American and former NFL player as well.
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  Speaker 3: David Pollack dot com is the website you have a
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  Speaker 3: new book, David, Every day counts.
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  Speaker 2: Start where you are, use what you have, do what
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  Speaker 2: you can. Be an anxious a publisher.
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  Speaker 3: I have followed your career closely, as I've told you
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  Speaker 3: before we started here.
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  Speaker 2: What's the inspiration behind the book? We led? You don't
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  Speaker 2: want to write this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, first off, I'm a I'm a defensive lineman, so
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  Speaker 1: writing is not our strength or our forte. And if
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  Speaker 1: you look behind me Seaball Giftball, that's my podcast with football,
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  Speaker 1: it's because you don't have to be that bright. So
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, man, like really hard to write
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  Speaker 1: a book.
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  Speaker 2: It was not easy. I had somebody ask me when's
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  Speaker 2: the next one coming out? I'm like never ever? But
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  Speaker 2: but Michael, it was more about like how could I
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  Speaker 2: share my story? But but but my and it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: It's not my it's not my good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It's more my my my down, my bad stuff man,
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  Speaker 1: my challenge is the adversity, and and God's given us
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  Speaker 1: a heaping, a couple of spoonfuls in our lives and
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  Speaker 1: we're just we're thankful for it. So to me, the
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  Speaker 1: book is really about, like how do you handle adversity?
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  Speaker 1: How do you start where you are, use what you
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  Speaker 1: have to do what you can with That means I
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  Speaker 1: did it in football, I did it with TV, I
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  Speaker 1: did it with my wife's you know, health, like we've
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  Speaker 1: done with all these different things. It's really developing a
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  Speaker 1: system man, of like you are where you're at, like
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  Speaker 1: the and I use the analogy for a car all
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  Speaker 1: the time, Like people want to live in the windshield
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  Speaker 1: and live in the windshield looking forward. Some people want
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  Speaker 1: to live in the rear view mirror. Like we want
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  Speaker 1: to be in the car man, like drive the car
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  Speaker 1: every single day. So it's literally some tricks, some some
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  Speaker 1: things that some tangible ways that you can make every
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  Speaker 1: single day count and we don't get stuck in the
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  Speaker 1: future or stuck in the past.
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  Speaker 2: We live in the present and we win in the present.
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  Speaker 3: You're talking about adversity you have have gone through in
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  Speaker 3: your life. One of those was your NFL career, you
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  Speaker 3: talk about that you were an All American in Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: For those who don't know, David wasn't All American in Georgia,
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  Speaker 3: drafted in the first round of the NFL draft and
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  Speaker 3: then had a career cut short due to injury. David,
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  Speaker 3: for you, how did your faith help guide you through that,
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  Speaker 3: through that moment in your life and what were your
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  Speaker 3: emotions during that time.
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  Speaker 1: I think, just like anybody else, Like if you'd listened
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  Speaker 1: to me from when I was six years old on,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna play in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: And despite the awesome little little doubters I had and
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  Speaker 1: awesome people that was like, oh that's cute, you know,
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  Speaker 1: patcha on the head type of a deal. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I was able to make it come true and it
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  Speaker 1: was awesome. It was great me and my wife. My
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  Speaker 1: wife had married a first round draft pick, a big,
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  Speaker 1: strong NFL football player, and like, everything was going the
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  Speaker 1: way that I wanted to go, and then in one play,
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  Speaker 1: one hit, one instance, it was gone. And so you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was tough and it was hard, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: but your perspective changes so much when you know it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a broken leg. It was a broken neck. And
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  Speaker 1: when you're trying to go back to some assemblance of
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  Speaker 1: normal for a while, like I'll never forget man, Michael,
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  Speaker 1: I benched two. I benched four fifty five in college,
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  Speaker 1: and that sounds like a lot, but I promise you
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't in the top twenty five at Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: Like there's some grown people, like some grown people.
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  Speaker 1: And when I got cleared two years after my neck
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  Speaker 1: braces and my halo and my surgery, I benched one
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  Speaker 1: thirty five twice and I looked like this, like and
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  Speaker 1: so it was extremely discouraging. And so I think it
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  Speaker 1: was about like, Okay, how do I make how do
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  Speaker 1: I make today count? How do I win today? And
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  Speaker 1: how do I goal set today? How do I set
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  Speaker 1: my alignment for today? And so I think what I
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  Speaker 1: what I learned was specifically the Bible says be still
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  Speaker 1: and know that I am God. I didn't do a
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  Speaker 1: lot of that in my life. I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: If I had an extra fifteen minutes, I was gone.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna go run, I was gonna work out.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna play video games like Go Go, Go,
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  Speaker 1: Do Do Do people talk about it all the time. Hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't hear from God.
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  Speaker 2: Well do you talk to God? Do you get still
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  Speaker 2: enough to listen to God?
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  Speaker 1: Because before that injury, for me, it was a very
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  Speaker 1: transactional relationship with God. I got up in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: I prayed to him, I had a meal, I'd pray
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  Speaker 1: to him. If I got some more time in my day,
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  Speaker 1: might I might holler at him?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: And then when your world goes dark and silent and
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  Speaker 1: still and everything around you starts to slow down. It
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  Speaker 1: was amazing how much when I got still and started
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  Speaker 1: to build some rhythms and some cadence in my life
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  Speaker 1: and talk to my father, how much he started to
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  Speaker 1: talk to me, and how much he started to show me.
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  Speaker 1: And man, that broken neck was a privilege and an
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  Speaker 1: honor because it made me a better dad, it made
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  Speaker 1: me a better husband, it had made me a better son.
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  Speaker 1: At the age of twenty two years old, I got
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  Speaker 1: more life perspective than all of my twenty one years
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  Speaker 1: before on this earth, and probably one of the most influential,
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  Speaker 1: impactful moments period in my life.
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  Speaker 2: So how did that moment then prepare you for later
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  Speaker 2: challenge in life? Those who have followed your career.
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  Speaker 3: Know you were at ESPN, they've been downsizing. You were
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  Speaker 3: one of the people who was downsized. Your wife has
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  Speaker 3: also had some health challenges. Did that moment in terms
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  Speaker 3: of not making the NFL do do an injury? Did
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  Speaker 3: that kind of help you have the strength and the
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  Speaker 3: character to go through those.
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  Speaker 2: Other other adversities? One hundred million percent. Man.
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  Speaker 1: I got my first adversity, like severe adversity at twenty two,
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  Speaker 1: and then you start living again, and here's what you realize,
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  Speaker 1: just like you, Michael, it's not if, it's when adversity
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  Speaker 1: is coming. And the next adversity for me was a firing.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, that was a really nice way. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: when you said they downsized, Yeah, I got fired, super
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  Speaker 1: nice way. I appreciate your politeness. But when you get
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  Speaker 1: that call and you realize, like, hey, what you've been
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  Speaker 1: working towards and your next iteration in life that you
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  Speaker 1: thought you were made for, that like, this is my thing,
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  Speaker 1: right and it's gone. So you have football, this is
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  Speaker 1: my thing and it's gone. And you know, commentating this
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  Speaker 1: is my thing and it's gone. And you know, the
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  Speaker 1: older I get, man, the way less I worry about
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  Speaker 1: what happens to me. I don't care about what comes
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  Speaker 1: my way. I care about my response. That's all I
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  Speaker 1: care about. Man. And so you know, as soon as
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  Speaker 1: I got fired from ESPN, like I was very thankful this.
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  Speaker 2: First message I sent out with mad like I got to.
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  Speaker 1: Do something for fifteen years that was so amazing, Like
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  Speaker 1: I didn't deserve that, Like I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I honestly I didn't even earn it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think I was worthy of doing it, especially
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  Speaker 1: as fast as I got to be able to go
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  Speaker 1: to college game day and do that. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the type of person. And we just sat in
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  Speaker 1: our household the other day, actually my wife did. She said, literally,
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  Speaker 1: we were hugging my daughter to my son last night
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  Speaker 1: they lost their playoff game in basketball, and my wife
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  Speaker 1: was like, what do you always say about don't cry
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  Speaker 1: because it's over, Smile because it happened, right, Like I
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  Speaker 1: got an opportunity to do this and to walk through this,
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  Speaker 1: and so we've had some hard to walk through, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it just it makes the fun, It makes
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  Speaker 1: the joyful that much sweeter.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned serving football principles in the book that Motivated
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  Speaker 3: Do You, including something called the fifty to forty ten rule.
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  Speaker 3: Tell us about that and kind of how that applies
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  Speaker 3: to everyday life.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I tell you.
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  Speaker 1: What, man, and no matter what walk of life you're in,
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  Speaker 1: and mine was football, So I like to use football analogies.
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  Speaker 1: But like, fifty percent of the people that you show
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  Speaker 1: up to work with fifty percent, if you show up
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  Speaker 1: with a good attitude and you work your tail off,
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  Speaker 1: you'll beat them. You'll beat half the people in this wall.
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  Speaker 1: Like that is that's a really good start to doing anything,
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  Speaker 1: to any kind of business, any kind of formula, any
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing you're walking through. When you eliminate fifty
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  Speaker 1: percent of your competition right away, that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: So fifty percent is gone by being a worker, having
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  Speaker 1: a joyful attitude and working. Forty percent is out detailing.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm specific of when I talk about out detailing.
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  Speaker 1: So from my work, what that looks like. I can't
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  Speaker 1: cover everybody's job, right, But like when I'm an NFL
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  Speaker 1: football player watching tape, studying my opponent, getting an edge
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  Speaker 1: on how do they like to use their hands?
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  Speaker 2: How does X affect why?
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  Speaker 1: Like watching all the guys up front, watching the running backs,
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  Speaker 1: getting tells like how about nutrition, man, Like, you want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about recovering at an elite level, training your
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  Speaker 1: body at an elite level, getting sleep, continuing to educate
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  Speaker 1: yourself on all the things that make you different that
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  Speaker 1: can separate you.
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  Speaker 2: So, now you've outworked.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty percent of people by showing up with a good
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  Speaker 1: attitude forty percent of people. You can out detail, and
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  Speaker 1: you can outstudy, and you can use your your gifts
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  Speaker 1: and you're wiring to gain edges and your competitiveness and
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  Speaker 1: your mind and your mental acuity, and like, you can
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  Speaker 1: use all that to get the forty percent. Well, now
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  Speaker 1: you've got ninety percent that's walked through that, Like, you're
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  Speaker 1: left with the last ten who can get hit and
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  Speaker 1: keep moving forward? Man Like, who can take shots, can
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  Speaker 1: take adversity can take Hey, I drew this up, man,
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  Speaker 1: This is my proposal. This is what I want. This
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  Speaker 1: is the job I want. This is the interview I
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  Speaker 1: just went for. Nope, you're not good enough. You're not
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  Speaker 1: getting the job. Like, okay, good. What's next for me?
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  Speaker 1: What do I need to take away from this? Like,
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  Speaker 1: how do I get to the next level? How do
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  Speaker 1: I keep working continue to implement those philosophies man, it's
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  Speaker 1: a unique way to look at things. But that's how
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  Speaker 1: you eliminate your competition. That's how you become the best
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  Speaker 1: version of you, which makes other people want to hire you,
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  Speaker 1: want to be around you, and it makes you a
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  Speaker 1: lead in your field.
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  Speaker 3: Was talking about your own personal faith? Did you come
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  Speaker 3: to faith the early in life? Did you come to
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  Speaker 3: faith later in life? Did that become stronger? I think
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  Speaker 3: you've already kind of said that. Did it become stronger
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  Speaker 3: at some point as a young adult?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 1: Man, I came to faith as a senior in high
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  Speaker 1: school a very unconventional way, never step foot in the church.
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  Speaker 1: One day in my life, my neighbor across the street
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  Speaker 1: was like, hey, bro, we're having a lock in.
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  Speaker 2: You want to come.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what does that mean? He goes, We're
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  Speaker 1: going to go to the church and that they lock
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  Speaker 1: you in for the night. I'm like no oh, and
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  Speaker 1: he was like he goes, but he said, but you
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  Speaker 1: get to stay up all night and they feed you
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  Speaker 1: and you get to play games. I'm like, in and
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  Speaker 1: it's the first time I ever heard about Jesus Man.
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  Speaker 1: It's the first time that that seed had ever been
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  Speaker 1: playing it in my life. And then that led to
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  Speaker 1: me starting to consume my Bible. That led to me
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  Speaker 1: to a teacher that I had in my junior year
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  Speaker 1: of high school, Mark Watson, who was a physics teacher.
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  Speaker 1: And every day I came in, Man, I have a
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  Speaker 1: very big spiritual gift, Michael, the gift of being annoying.
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  Speaker 2: It's trust me. My family completely agrees with it.
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  Speaker 1: But the way he handled me and cared for me
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  Speaker 1: and was so so like just unbelievably graceful, full of grace,
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  Speaker 1: full of mercy, full of positivity. I was like, something's
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  Speaker 1: different about this dude. And he played praise and worship
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  Speaker 1: music before before classes at a public school, and he
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  Speaker 1: had a Jesus fish. I called him a Jesus free
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  Speaker 1: And so for senior reading for outside for an outside book,
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  Speaker 1: I chose. I'm like, hey, I want to read the
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  Speaker 1: Bible and I want to figure out about the Bible.
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  Speaker 1: And my English teacher said no, and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I said, mister Watson will sit down with me if
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  Speaker 1: I do and make sure I read, and she goes
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  Speaker 1: if you talked to him, I said no, but I
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  Speaker 1: bet he will and show enough he did, and he
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  Speaker 1: took me through Matthew, Mark Luke, and John. And if
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  Speaker 1: you are a new believer, please start in Matthew, Mark, Luke,
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  Speaker 1: and John. Do not start in the Old Testament. You're
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  Speaker 1: ed to start spinning in circles and you'll be just
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  Speaker 1: really confused. But but I tell people, I love to
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  Speaker 1: tell people Michael that all the time, because here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone can invite anyone to church. Anyone can invite anyone
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  Speaker 1: to Bible study. Everyone has that capacity. You can let
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  Speaker 1: the preacher do the work like anyone can do that.
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  Speaker 1: So you out there to say I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 1: an evel evangelicist. That's not my gift. Okay, well your gift.
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  Speaker 1: Can you can send a text message. I know that,
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  Speaker 1: like you can send an invite and then two a
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  Speaker 1: life worth, a life lived worth emulating like Mark Watson
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  Speaker 1: lived a life that I was Like, something's different, and friends,
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  Speaker 1: that's the most important thing that we ever do.
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  Speaker 2: Like the way we live our life is the.
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  Speaker 1: Biggest way we will ever have for anyone else around us,
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  Speaker 1: because everybody's watching. And when it's different, and when it's
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  Speaker 1: spirit fit led, and when it's joy led, and when
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  Speaker 1: it's forgiveness and grace like people are like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: that's different.
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  Speaker 2: Why why do you feel that way?
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  Speaker 1: And so those were two things, man, that I share
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  Speaker 1: with people all the time, like, that's why I came
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  Speaker 1: to Christ.
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  Speaker 3: And those are two things that we all can do
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  Speaker 3: and all can control. Yeah, somebody invited you. That's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: I assumed that you were a church going person all
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  Speaker 3: your life. That's a great story, unbelievable, inspiring. We were
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  Speaker 3: going to also talk about the fact that seems like
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  Speaker 3: there's a revival of.
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  Speaker 2: Sorts going on among athletes today.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when I was growing up, there was Reddy White,
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  Speaker 3: there was Kurt Warner, there was Tim Tebow fifteen years
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  Speaker 3: ago or so, and now it seems like everybody's a
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  Speaker 3: Tim Tebow. What has happened in the sports world, in
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  Speaker 3: the football world as well, that there are so many
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  Speaker 3: young men and women now proclaiming Christ unashamed and publicly.
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  Speaker 2: What happened, David? I think a couple of things have happened.
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  Speaker 1: One, we live in a world now where everyone has
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  Speaker 1: access to a camera and a microphone. Yeah, right here
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  Speaker 1: on the phone. Everyone has a camera and a microphone.
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  Speaker 1: So and everyone feels like they need to know you
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  Speaker 1: and who you are and what you stand for.
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  Speaker 2: And so when you have people that are inquisitive about.
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  Speaker 1: Who you are, what you are, what you stand for,
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  Speaker 1: and you have a microphone and you have a camera,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just it's going to naturally come out
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  Speaker 1: more and more. I do think people have been so
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  Speaker 1: bold about their faith and our country's going through more
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  Speaker 1: and more of a revival that I think it allows
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  Speaker 1: others to feel safe to be in bolden to share,
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  Speaker 1: because let's be honest, there was also a big time
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  Speaker 1: in our country when we did share, we were looked
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  Speaker 1: at like something was wrong with us, and we were
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  Speaker 1: harassed and we were looked at in a negative light.
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  Speaker 1: Thank God, things in our country I think have kind
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  Speaker 1: of shifted and you're seeing all sides, whether you like
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  Speaker 1: it or not, Like whether you like the green side,
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  Speaker 1: the red side, the blue side, whatever side it is, right, like,
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  Speaker 1: you get to see all sides in all types.
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  Speaker 2: And so I'm very.
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  Speaker 1: Encouraged man by the people that are willing to share
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  Speaker 1: their faith and share it boldly.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes it used to be like yeah, like God thing,
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  Speaker 2: God thing.
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  Speaker 1: I hear a lot of Jesus Man, and that puts
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  Speaker 1: a smile on my face, man, because it's not again.
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  Speaker 1: I think for a long time, man, people thought that
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  Speaker 1: Christianity was a rigid, hard set of rules and you
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  Speaker 1: needed to do X, Y and Z, and I think
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  Speaker 1: people are starting to realize, Man, it's the freeing way
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  Speaker 1: to live.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a captive way. It's a revolutionary way.
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  Speaker 1: It's a freeing way that allows you to be you
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  Speaker 1: and understand like, at the same time, you ain't perfect,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't expect you to be perfect, Like, this
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  Speaker 1: is not a religion of perfection, like there was one
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  Speaker 1: that was perfect for us.
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  Speaker 2: We were all messed up. That's why it took him right.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's been cool to see that shift.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about a couple more things in your life.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: You host a podcast, the Seaball Get Ball Podcast. Tell
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  Speaker 2: us briefly about that.
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  Speaker 1: To college football podcast, Man, college football is the greatest
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  Speaker 1: sport of the planet to me. You know, we just
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: talk about football, and it's in a very different way.
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  Speaker 2: No agendas. We don't do gambling. It's just not our thing.
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  Speaker 2: Like we are.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to talk about the game. We're not
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about point spreads. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: how much we love and who we think is gonna win,
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  Speaker 1: all that good stuff, but we're not gonna talk about that,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: And we don't talk about some of the other stuff
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  Speaker 1: too when it comes, so we don't curse.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my son one of the most proudest things
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  Speaker 2: I am, Michael of my my son listens to my podcast.
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  Speaker 1: He's seventeen, so it's kind of surprising that he would
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: listen to it. But I just love the fact that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sharing gambling stuff with him. I'm not sharing alcohol,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not cursing all the time, like it's a safe,
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  Speaker 1: family friendly thing.
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  Speaker 2: But man, I just love ball.
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  Speaker 1: I love getting my buddies on from college game day
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: to coaches all across the country. Like this offseason, we're
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: doing every new coach that took a job in the
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: power for every single one of them, and we're working
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: our way through and it has nothing to do with football. Michael, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm literally like, hey, what makes you tick? Like why
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  Speaker 1: are you sitting in this chair? Who's he's the first
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  Speaker 1: person you called when you've got this job? Like what
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: do you do with your family? What's your family fun time?
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  Speaker 1: You know? Like what made you you? Like just kind
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: of getting to know the guys on a deeper level.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a lot of fun to do, and it's
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: kind of fun to control it yourself by being your podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely Seaball Getball, that's the name of that podcast. And
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  Speaker 3: finally you have a foundation, the Pollock Family Foundation. I know,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know a lot about that. Tell us about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's me and my wife started at about twelve years
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  Speaker 1: ago and it's evolved over time. But man, just trying
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: to find a way to plug into the community. We've
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: been given so much and so much that we don't deserve,
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  Speaker 1: that we do not deserve, and we want to find
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  Speaker 1: a way to give back.
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  Speaker 2: And we do a lot of different programs real quick.
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  Speaker 1: The one I'm most proud of we do it in
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  Speaker 1: downtown Athens the Sunday of Thanksgiving every year and it's
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: called Banquet of Blessings. It comes from Luke, but literally
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: we bust in some homeless in the area in the
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  Speaker 1: surrounding area and then all the needy comes in and
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  Speaker 1: they get a home cook meal that can throw down
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  Speaker 1: for ages and all the pies, the coffee, the collars,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: everything that goes with it, and then they get to
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  Speaker 1: walk through a line. Man, they all get brand new coachs,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: brand new book bags, brand new books, toys, bull socks, beanies, scarves,
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  Speaker 1: gloves like you just go down the line. And we
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: just want them to know, man, that people we care
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  Speaker 1: about you, you loved, you matter. And all the high
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  Speaker 1: school kids that I coach in football and basketball and
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  Speaker 1: then we've coached for all these years telling them that, like,
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  Speaker 1: you're not to blame for where you're at. Like I
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: told my son all the time, I'm pointing over there
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  Speaker 1: to these kids like look at like you're just going
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  Speaker 1: to a different family, Like that's the only difference between
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you and them. They were born into something different, but
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: if you don't do something about.
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  Speaker 2: It, you are to blame.
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  Speaker 1: And so just being able to plug in and try
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  Speaker 1: to make a difference man, and be the hands and
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  Speaker 1: feet you know here in Athens, in our backyard and
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: across the southeast, that's definitely something that we're passionate about.
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  Speaker 2: David.
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  Speaker 3: As long as I've seen you on TV, you've always
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: been high energy and optimistic. Have you always been like
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  Speaker 3: this or does that come from your faith?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just curious about you personally.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, God definitely wired me this way. I've had some
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: people ask me like that, Like I've always been really
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: really high energy, and I've always been optimistic, and I've
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: always been very confident, borderline cocky, pompous, butthole definitely cross
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  Speaker 1: that line a bunch along the way, man. But like
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  Speaker 1: I think that I love to chase, I love to
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  Speaker 1: go after goals, I love to dream big. I love
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  Speaker 1: to work, and so you know, all those things kind
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: of come together and all your different passions, and man,
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  Speaker 1: I never thought I'd do what a blessing to be
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  Speaker 1: able to be an NFL player, a college football player,
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  Speaker 1: to write a kid's book, to write a book, to
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: be on TV, to I just did a movie recently.
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  Speaker 2: I've never done that before, like, which was really really cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's a small part in a movie, but like I
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  Speaker 2: love to do.
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  Speaker 1: My wife says it all the times, like you just
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: love to have seven things going, don't you, And I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I don't mind.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I don't mind working and being I'm busy and God
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  Speaker 1: definitely gave.
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  Speaker 2: Me plenty of energy. That's awesome. David Pollocks have been
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: our guests. He's the author of the new book Every
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Day Counts.
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  Speaker 1: David, thanks so much you and Man Michael, thank you about.
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• 19:18
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• 19:20
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• 19:24
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  Speaker 2: See you next time.