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Filmmaker Gabe Polsky: Edmonton's Slow Start, Surging Red Wings and why JD Hates the Avs' Throwback Jerseys. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up NHL Unscripted, that's right, the film of the Year,
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  Speaker 1: mister Scorsese, Unbelievable five parts, four and a half hours
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  Speaker 1: and Apple TV plus me and tal of Watch. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to dig into it. It's unbelievable. Also the Avalanche
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  Speaker 1: paying tribute to the Quebec Nordiakas.
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  Speaker 2: I love this, Let's go nordi ICs stolen.
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  Speaker 1: Also Gabe Polski, filmmaker and former hockey player, I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: us about paying for the Yale Bulldogs, what he thought
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  Speaker 1: about playing for their head coach, and also working with
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  Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage. He's got a new documentary out, and Matt
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  Speaker 1: Schaefers Jason de Murz developed a bit of a crush.
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  Speaker 1: All of the game's great bright lights right now eighteen years.
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  Speaker 1: Always been absolutely brilliant right of the gate, Gendie, this
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  Speaker 1: is a podcast in which you have done your best
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  Speaker 1: to bring in players that you played with, current players
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  Speaker 1: as well, and yet despite your best average, this is
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  Speaker 1: a home for broadcasters and filmmakers. Last year we had
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  Speaker 1: on Shot McDonough. This past week we've received Levy we've
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  Speaker 1: had recently this Chris Berman, John Butchers, and now Gabe
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  Speaker 1: Polski filmmaker. How do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we're a hockey podcast that is highlighting sportscasters
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  Speaker 3: and analysts and movie directors, and I might be me.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe nobody wants to come on, and maybe I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: as liked as I thought I was in the NHL.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. Maybe Talas is trying not to He's trying
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  Speaker 3: to let me down easy. But I'm giving him gold here.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how he's got He's got a rolodex
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  Speaker 3: that some people would would spooge over in.
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  Speaker 2: The hockey world.
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  Speaker 1: Every week sends a phone number of a current or
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  Speaker 1: former player. And it's not like never heard of that
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  Speaker 1: kind like no, like everyone knows these guys are that
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  Speaker 1: you're sending and yet just haven't delivered these guys. Is
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  Speaker 1: it Talent? Is it me?
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  Speaker 2: Who knows tal what's going on? Are you even sending
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  Speaker 2: text messages? Or is this just you?
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  Speaker 3: They're they're coming, You're.
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  Speaker 2: Satisfying your You need to just chat.
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  Speaker 3: He's trying to get another Whaler's documentary made enough.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say this when Gabe Polski the first thing he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be popped on. He didn't say, odd Man, good
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you again. I've interviewed Hi twice before
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  Speaker 1: and sent a foul. He didn't go Jason Burr's big Fanny,
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  Speaker 1: We're a big hockey fan. All he said was because
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  Speaker 1: Tal Pincheski, Tal, have we met before? Like I definitely
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  Speaker 1: know your name.
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  Speaker 3: Said he said, we've met before, Tal, and even towd
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  Speaker 3: big dog.
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  Speaker 2: Tal's like, He's like, did we He's like, yeah, now, but.
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  Speaker 1: That time is I love your work, but we never
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  Speaker 1: actually met. He's like, well, we we swim in the
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  Speaker 1: same circles. And then he told the story, but a
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  Speaker 1: guy better, We'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: He rubbed shoulders with the greats.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get to Verner, Herzog and all that. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot going on right now in the hockey world,
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  Speaker 1: so let's get to it. Never totally to dive back
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  Speaker 1: in the early season overreactions Connor McDavid. He finally scored, hooray,
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  Speaker 1: had seven assists in six games with the oiler's rank,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Bob of the league and goals for
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  Speaker 1: going to have just eight goals in six teams at
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  Speaker 1: five and five. That was going in the last night game,
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  Speaker 1: Avan Bouchard JD he got his first point. He was
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  Speaker 1: minus five in six games, all those right now, three
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  Speaker 1: three and one. What do you make of this middling
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  Speaker 1: start for a team that was in the Cup final
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  Speaker 1: last year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was on with like Nick Kipprios and those
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  Speaker 3: guys on sports Net and they kind of asked me
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  Speaker 3: that same thing a couple of days ago, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, you know, I've been mullling with it, sitting
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  Speaker 3: on it, and I'm like, you know, the McDavid side
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  Speaker 3: of it, not scoring, even after he came out and
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  Speaker 3: posted all these you know, these comments saying he wants
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  Speaker 3: to score more and that's kind of been more enjoyable
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  Speaker 3: to him than getting one hundred sists fifty goals, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm and I just feel like he's maybe when you
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  Speaker 3: kind of put that out there and you start talking
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  Speaker 3: about that, I feel like as a player, you start
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  Speaker 3: looking for it instead of just playing your game. And
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  Speaker 3: in the beauty of Connor McDavid, as we all know,
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  Speaker 3: is the fact that he can create space, and he's
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  Speaker 3: so unique and he's so talented and otherworldly, that yeah,
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  Speaker 3: is he's in position to score, but a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the time everybody's focusing on him and he's able to
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  Speaker 3: slide that little pass through defenseman's feet for a tap.
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  Speaker 3: And so now he's like, seems like he's looking and
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  Speaker 3: include in on scoring and scoring more goals. And I
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  Speaker 3: feel like that maybe just kind of took him out
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  Speaker 3: of his game a little bit instead of just just
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  Speaker 3: play your.
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  Speaker 2: Game, just keep playing your game.
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  Speaker 3: You're you know, like I made a joke, but I
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  Speaker 3: was like, this fucking guy's on side quest right now
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  Speaker 3: because he's already completed everything he needs to do in
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  Speaker 3: the NHL, and he's like, ah, he's like, yeah, just
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  Speaker 3: for fun this year, I'm gonna play with my skates
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  Speaker 3: on backwards and he's like I'm gonna He's like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna do I'm gonna play to Night blindfold. And it's
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  Speaker 3: like just kind of you know, and I feel like
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  Speaker 3: him putting that out there that he wants to score
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  Speaker 3: more goals maybe just made him pulled the trigger more.
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  Speaker 3: But then it took him out of the positions that
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  Speaker 3: he's he's accustomed to being in. So it's good to
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  Speaker 3: see him get back on the scoreboard. I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: team we always talk about We talked about it, you
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  Speaker 3: know early last year. This team just out of the
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  Speaker 3: gate is perennially slow. They they kind of always go
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  Speaker 3: up and down until they get pissed off. It's like
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  Speaker 3: their board or something, and they just want to get
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  Speaker 3: to the playoffs. So I do think they're missing Hymen.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a big piece. And it was good
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  Speaker 3: getting Jake.
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  Speaker 2: Walman back last night.
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  Speaker 3: The scores the overtime winner, but I think Hymen's a
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  Speaker 3: big piece missing there, and once he comes back, I
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  Speaker 3: think they're gonna, you know, rattle off of six seven
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  Speaker 3: game winning streak.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hymen's been broken, but once he's back, things will
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  Speaker 1: be better. In the meantime. The Detroit Red Wings, how
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  Speaker 1: about it. You praised their coach, Todd McClellan, former Sharks coach,
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  Speaker 1: for call them out right out of the gate after
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  Speaker 1: opening night, ripping off five straight wins. Now looking fantastic,
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  Speaker 1: Dylan Larkin leading the way eleven points in six games.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we've been waiting for the Eyes are playing
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  Speaker 1: ninety years or this is it? Make it a break
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  Speaker 1: it they don't make the playffs DEVI wise out of
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  Speaker 1: a job. Heads are gonna roll Dylan Larkin for the heart.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to me, Dylan Larkin for the heart. Taylor Hall
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  Speaker 3: asked back, with the Devils, that's what it needs to be.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 3: I think I watched their game the other night against
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  Speaker 3: who'd they play last San Jose.
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  Speaker 2: I think they played San Jose.
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  Speaker 3: Last San Jose Edmonton, And I mean, I like these
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  Speaker 3: young guys they brought in this Emmitt Finney is a
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  Speaker 3: revelation right now. And I say that because he's part
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  Speaker 3: of the coalition of the seventh rounders and myself.
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  Speaker 1: It was on Sunday four too. I don't know though
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  Speaker 1: that was the game you talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: That that was it. Yes, that was the one I watched.
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to think of who it was. But
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  Speaker 3: Emmitt Finny scored. He scored and he had the empty netter, right, So,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, coalition of the seventh rounders, and I
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  Speaker 3: have solitude with those guys. I was a former seventh
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  Speaker 3: rounder when I was twenty. He's a great player. Branson
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  Speaker 3: Nygard really good. He's been really effective. He plays a
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  Speaker 3: great like two way game. Then you have sandyne Pellico's
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  Speaker 3: providing them a little bit of offense from the back end.
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  Speaker 3: It's and the kind of undercover thing. I think we
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  Speaker 3: all mentioned it this offseason and we said John Gibson
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  Speaker 3: going there is going to be an interesting thing because
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  Speaker 3: Cam Talbot had phenomenal numbers last year early, but then
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  Speaker 3: he burns himself out and they didn't have anybody to
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  Speaker 3: kind of pick up the slock. Now they kind of
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  Speaker 3: have two like older, you know, seasoned veteran goalies. But
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  Speaker 3: I think if they kind of split the split the
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  Speaker 3: load a little bit Bonnie Blue style, I think they'll
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  Speaker 3: be able to that's probably getting cut out.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows, if you don't call attention, there's always a
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  Speaker 4: chance if you split, you know, if they split the
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  Speaker 4: games and and and kind of split the split the workload,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's going to surprise some people.
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  Speaker 3: John Gibson is still a great goalie when he's healthy,
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  Speaker 3: so there's that could be The kind of the pickup
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  Speaker 3: of the offseason was John Gibson. As we move on,
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  Speaker 3: and it's kind of no one's really talked about him
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  Speaker 3: because they forgot about Detroit. But more importantly and more excitingly,
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  Speaker 3: I think, and I don't know how you guys feel,
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  Speaker 3: but this just feels like the Atlantic this year, which
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  Speaker 3: we kind of called it that it was kind of
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  Speaker 3: a crapshoot and it was going to be with the injuries,
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  Speaker 3: it was kind of gonna be. We we wouldn't know
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  Speaker 3: how it would shake out. I think it's we might
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  Speaker 3: see a few different teams top the in the top three,
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  Speaker 3: and I think there's gonna be some teams that we
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  Speaker 3: don't expect to be.
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  Speaker 2: Battling for.
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  Speaker 3: A wild card in the Atlantic. But I a lot
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  Speaker 3: to like from a lot of these teams early on,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Detroit, especially coming in Montreal, like the Atlantic's
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  Speaker 3: an interesting interesting I don't know how you feel, but
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  Speaker 3: it's very interesting how it's gonna play out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you because you feel like Florida, Toronto, Tampa
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  Speaker 1: is in some you know, form of top three. But
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  Speaker 1: as I said, Ottawa right now, they're kind of maddling,
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  Speaker 1: but you expect better than they had ninety four points.
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  Speaker 2: Of Florida's injured.
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  Speaker 1: Right Detroit's been a pleasant surprise to We talked about
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  Speaker 1: Montreal's five and two right now. Just saw our boy
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  Speaker 1: Lane Hudson in prime Monday night hockey Boston. I'm seeing
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  Speaker 1: them two Monday. Actually they're taking the out of centers
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  Speaker 1: are not they're gonna fall off. Yeah, Buffalo knock right.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously that's nothing surprising, but yeah, it could be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a I've been changing at the guard there.
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  Speaker 3: Tampa has been bad, right, Tampa has been really bad.
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  Speaker 3: So it could be like Florida, I feel like is
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  Speaker 3: one of those teams that could slide into the wildcard
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  Speaker 3: spot if they, you know, because if those how long
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  Speaker 3: those guys are out and you know, they beat Boston
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  Speaker 3: last night but barely on a lucky goal.
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  Speaker 2: So is kind of one of those.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting if they can hold on long
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  Speaker 3: enough for those guys to get healthy. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: in Detroit. Listen, Dylan Larkin, he has wings on his back.
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  Speaker 3: He's Dylan Larkin. Is not LARPing out there.
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  Speaker 5: He is.
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  Speaker 3: He's full Larkin and he's driving this team. But I
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  Speaker 3: think Emmitt Finney's is somebody to watch. All you fans
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  Speaker 3: out there, all you unscripted fanatics, keep an eye on
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  Speaker 3: old Emmitt Finney.
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  Speaker 2: The seventh rounder.
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  Speaker 1: Well, listen, there's always a different player year that comes
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  Speaker 1: up to the You go, I wasn't expecting that, right, So
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  Speaker 1: if Emmitt Finny is that guy that year, then potentially
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  Speaker 1: that's good for him, and I mean for Detroit it's
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  Speaker 1: been long time running right now. So with Detroit sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's like we need expectations of doing well. And then
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  Speaker 1: with the team on the other stuff like Vegas, you go, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're expecting to be good, as you and I boasted
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  Speaker 1: off the top. This is the team that we're absolutely
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  Speaker 1: expecting to win the division, run away with it. This
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  Speaker 1: is a story in its own right. They beat Carolina
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  Speaker 1: four to one, which is a major statement win. Michael
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  Speaker 1: has a late leading sixteen points in the season. You
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  Speaker 1: flick the season just started. This guy's already wracked up
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  Speaker 1: sixteen points. Dorotheev scored type for the league. He's got
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  Speaker 1: seven goals. Mark stones out week to week, Aiden Hill
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  Speaker 1: goes down a Kira Schmid finishes in net. Would you
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  Speaker 1: agree to j D Vegas Carolina? I know it was
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  Speaker 1: on pay for the top two teams, but I mean
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  Speaker 1: the two hottest teams right now in hockey. Pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say, you know, Carolina and them, And then listen,
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  Speaker 3: let's not forget the old dirty New Jersey Devils. Right
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  Speaker 3: now they look pretty fantastical. But to your point, I
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  Speaker 3: do believe, you know, if I were to pick throughout
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  Speaker 3: you know, the Atlantic, I don't really have any teams
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  Speaker 3: in the top, but I would go right now Carolina, Vegas,
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  Speaker 3: Colorado and call with Colorado potentially being at the top
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  Speaker 3: of that list. They did lose a heartbreaker to Utah.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, this was a good matchup, and I think Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing with Vegas, you know, we have them
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  Speaker 3: all running away with the Pacific if they can stay healthy.
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  Speaker 3: You know, now Mark Stone's out a little bit, they
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  Speaker 3: lose Aiden Hill, we could be seeing a Mista Kata,
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  Speaker 3: a Mista Kata heart potentially sliding in because it looked
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  Speaker 3: this is like the second time the season where Aiden
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  Speaker 3: Hill went down in a heap and injured. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if Akira Schmidt's enough to really keep them
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  Speaker 3: at the top of this leaderboard. But the Pacific I
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  Speaker 3: think is absolute junk. You know, other other than Vegas,
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  Speaker 3: it just hasn't been good. You know, I just think
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  Speaker 3: there's not enough there to kind of knock them off
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  Speaker 3: the top. But yeah, they played it. It was a
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  Speaker 3: hell of a game for Vegas. Carolina I think has
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  Speaker 3: played well and that was their first kind of you
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  Speaker 3: saw them kind of a little bit of chink in
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  Speaker 3: the armor. But to their credit, no, Jacob Slavin have
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  Speaker 3: some injuries right now, they're kind of they're a little
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: banged up. Shane Gosseisberg was out of the lineup if
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  Speaker 3: I'm correct too, So they're missing some guys and they
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: both need to kind of stay healthy because even though
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  Speaker 3: they had really hot starts, it's it's it's a fickle
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  Speaker 3: thing being at the top of the the top of
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  Speaker 3: the mountain.
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  Speaker 1: As they say, uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.
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  Speaker 3: Oh fickle df protest too much.
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  Speaker 1: I like it on the way did he drop it?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate you.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: How about this Brad Marshan, He's a guy who's polarizing
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  Speaker 1: and I was just watching the highlights together of the day,
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  Speaker 1: like when he got emotional, like I get emotional when
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: guys get choked up. Early Duke, I'm like, you know
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  Speaker 1: what this shows you how much you love the game,
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  Speaker 1: which you love the fans and even though he may
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  Speaker 1: have this image of himself, he really does love the
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  Speaker 1: game of hockey. Was really appreciati that the fans are
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: in Boston, rewarding him like that, having said that this
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  Speaker 1: guy is such a punk. I was like, dude, he
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: was like what he did? Like I hadn't seen it yet,
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: And then I think Thomas Saku was telling me. He's like, hey, Sol,
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: guy's helmety, what are you talking? There was a scrum.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: He took the fucking helmet and he started tearing it
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  Speaker 1: a pregg you can't do that, Like, what's wrong with you?
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  Speaker 2: Like, yes, he can.
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  Speaker 1: I go this is unbelievable. So if you haven't seen it,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look it up, but I'll try to describe it.
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  Speaker 1: He was fined five thousand dollars on sports like contact
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  Speaker 1: little do we even call it? Dust up? He just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, barking their last mistallean. He takes his helmet,
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  Speaker 1: took it to the penalty box, starts taking out piece
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  Speaker 1: by piece. It's kind of stripping out the lace a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Eventually ourf feree comes over and he's like,
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: can we get that back? These are the infractions. Dad
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  Speaker 1: reportedly licked Ryan Callahan's face, grabbed Nick Cousins by the
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  Speaker 1: throat of this bare hand, did Econor McGregor shelley with
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  Speaker 1: a UFC champ of the building repeatedly jabbing Daniel Cidin
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  Speaker 1: in the face after the whistle doing the twenty eleven Finals.
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  Speaker 1: Amused by it, entertained by it, sick of it all
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  Speaker 1: the above, I.
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  Speaker 2: Would say you are yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, as a player, you kind of get that
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  Speaker 3: feeling of like, you know, the blood starts boiling.
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  Speaker 2: But it's so funny.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he goes in there and he just rips
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  Speaker 3: apart Dollan's helmet like poor equipment co the poor and
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  Speaker 3: look people will be like, ah, I rip this helmet apart.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like they got extras in the back. They're basically
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  Speaker 3: just gonna give them a new helmet. But that helmet
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  Speaker 3: might not fit the way this one fits. So that's
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: where it's like kind of funny. Like it's not like
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  Speaker 3: he's you know, breaking his skates or anything like that,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, he is so polarizing and then you see that,
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  Speaker 3: you see that emotionality from him, and you're kind of
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  Speaker 3: like it's one of those things when you see those
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  Speaker 3: people and you're like fuck, You're like no, I can't,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because like it makes you
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  Speaker 3: choked up as well, because you know, we're all we're
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  Speaker 3: all suckers for those moments and all of the ship
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  Speaker 3: he's done in his career and all of the mess,
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  Speaker 3: and you just look at he's crying and you're just
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: like that's a touching moment. That's like nice. Oh maybe
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: he is a good guy. You know, maybe he's a
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: good guy. Maybe isn't a piece of shit. But it's
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: like that's just that's sports for you, like you want
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: to you know, I'm sure there's still some fans that were.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, fuck this guy.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: But it's like, listen, the guy is a competitor. He's
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: a rat. He makes no he does not hide it
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: one bit. It's not like he's he's a guy being
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: like I'm the good guy. He plays the villain. Well,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: he's on the team that is the most villainous team
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: around and yeah, I think, but he still loved anywhere.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: He plays one of those guys you want on your team,
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: you wanted your organization and and uh, you know, all
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: big nos aside and and and jokes aside, Big Nose Club.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: We are the coalition of the Big Nose Club as well,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: so the nose goes. But yeah, he's I mean, what
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: a player. And you saw him The response they got
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: from Boston. He's the captain, he was the guy there
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: for for quite a long time.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely a guy who want my team. To
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: your point, he's gonna compete, he's in a fight and
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: from teammates. Has always been a guy. He's always been
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: well respected, well like despite the antics, let's talk Leafs
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: right now. Anthony Stillarts criticizing his team falling a four
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: to three loss. Still Arts frustrated by some liberties taking
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: by cracking players in the crease and said, we're six
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: games into the season. Enough is enough. We kind of
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: got to start picking it up here. Of course, Torontomy
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: he had jumped all over the comment. He clarified his
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: comments a couple of days later. William Neelander, Brandon Carlo,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: and coach Rap Ruby all stood by their goalie, but
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: but Ruby also criticizing his team. Kind of like the Oilers, JDI.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: They were a five hundred team. They're just three three
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: and one. They lost the Devils. Do we agree or
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: a good team Devils or five?
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: They got beat by the Devils. They had to lose
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: to the Devils. They got beat by the Devil.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: What do you make of this Leafs team? Right now.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: They lose five too. They're just not looking great so far.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're you know, once again, I think we we
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: may be right on this depending on how the season
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: chicks up. But we said this isn't necessarily the team
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: that the Toronto Apo leaps team that's going to be
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: great in the season. This is a team that they
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: just want to get to the playoffs and lean on
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: teams in over a seven game series. This team will
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: beat you, you know, New Jersey, that kind of makeup.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: That's more of the season.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: They're just not the team that they were, This high flying,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: high flutant team. But you know, the life without Marner.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to take some adjusting, you know,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: you neique guys to step up. I think Austin hasn't
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: really found his groove yet. He's he still got four
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: goals to assist, but hasn't found his groove without Matthews.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I Brube came out with some comments about kind of
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: him getting sick of the top line. It's been Matthews
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: and Nis pretty firm, but like that third, that winger
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: has been just an absolute just a revolving door of
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: players and it just does nothing. Seems to work. They
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: tried Mitchelli, they tried Domey. So I mean when you
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: look at that, you're like, well, there's probably a trade
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: out there where they can maybe bring in somebody, you know,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: maybe Mitch. You know, he's out there, he's available.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Mitchie comes home, Mittie comes home twelve and a half.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: No, I think you know, they might need to find
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: somebody or somebody's gonna have to step up. I mean,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: what a what a what a great role too if
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: you're a player on that team to kind of push
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: for it. You know, this is you get to play
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: with Matthews and I So I'd like to see maybe
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Calli yarncrock up there. He's kind of had a decent
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: start to the season. And you know, other than that,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: maybe Dakota Joshua making it maybe make it a really
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: heavy line.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: But it's tough.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: They don't have they don't they're missing that piece obviously
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: with Marner leaving, and it's hard to replace that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: So you try to replace it in the way you play.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: As the team, and they've just been up and down
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: and going to Stillars's comments, I mean, keep that ship
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: in the room, Like I'm just not a I'm not
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: a fan of that keep that.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Ship in the room.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: But but he we obviously knew who he was calling out.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: He was calling out Nilander on that play like it
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: was a pretty.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I was gonna see what I was stop as now
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: was especially when the goldie calls him out, like to me,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I wish look at teams as your leader. And I
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: was talking Mike Johnson time. So you know, it's rare
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: when the goalie is actually like the verbal leader. Can
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: you give me an example when he's like, like I go,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: like Patrick Wall was fiery, He's again maybe Wall a
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: little bit, but bernerv was never the leader of these
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: devil's teams, right, Staneko, It's other guys, Scott Stevens, you see,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the one was Sean Brooke. Sean Brook was like a
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: very verbal guy. He was a very vocal leader among goalies. Goalies, right,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: are not the guys who were in the room and
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: shouting yelly. So whatever a goalie chirps, I'm like, dude,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you better be at the elite level. It's just it
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: was so unusual for a goalie to be critical like that.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: He's been good too, so it's hard to come after him.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: And he wasn't wrong. He was warranted. But it's one
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: of those you know, you're you know that's going to happen.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: You're emotional. If the game finishes, he's probably pissed off,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: probably broke his stick. Come into the room, the media
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: throws a camera in your face and says, talk to
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: me about that goal. You're kind of like, well, the
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: the fuck do you?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: What do you think? Look at the look at the play.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Somebody got blown blown by it was a breakaway and
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: he didn't make the same. So I think it was
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: a level of frustration. I think that's just Toronto for you.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: It's you know, there's it's never a dull moment. It's
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: you'd think that they'd be the Broadway, the New York,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: the drama. The drama would would be in New York
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: and not there. And even though there is some drama
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: New York, I mean, it always seems to fall more
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: in Toronto. It's just an it's just a circus there
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: right now. And it's just you know that you knew
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: that the Marner leaving would it was one of those
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: things if you signed Marner, you're there's talk about Marner
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: there all year, and they probably overpaid him, and then
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: he leaves, and now everybody goes, why do we leave
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: a hundred point player leave? And it's like they're gonna
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: just have to figure out their identity and keep kind
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: of staying with it. And I still think I'm still
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I still believe in this team, that this is a
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: team that could go could go far in the playoffs,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: and I think they're more better built for the playoffs
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: and there for the season.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: So hopefully nothing too much story about they're in Leafland.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Your favorite quote of the week. San Jose Sharks the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: NHL's only winless team. But why Ryan Warsovski is keeping
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: a sense of humor or maybe just being honest? Let
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: it fly started, I'd saying, I give up one of
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: my kids for a fucking win. We're assuming he's joking.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: We did later apologize. It always takes you thinks about
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: when coaches make these comments. You know, Brad Oustmas, who's
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: a Yankees coach years ago, is managing the Tigers. This
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: is early in his tenure and we're Safti's still a
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: young coach. Somebody asked me, how bad is the loss?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna do after a loss of this?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: He goes, I'm gonna go home and beat my wife.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: It was such a circus. After he's like come, he's like,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I don't beat my wife. There was like women like,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you know, picketing outside the Tigers games. He did like
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: donate money to domestic abuse. I'm like, you have to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: be careful about you say, and clearly why Marsaci's wife
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: didn't appreciate his comment.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he got home and his wife absolutely whooped
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the shit out of him because you know, you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: he knew which kid it was as well, because you
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: all have your favorites as a dad, so he knew
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: the kid that was getting getting sacrificed like a lamb.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: But I mean, can you just imagine him walking in
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: and the wife just being like, are you fucking kidding me?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: But I was on air with Bruce Breudo and you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: we were we weren't on air, and he kind of
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: said something similar where we were watching something and we
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: were watching one of the games and it wasn't going good,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: and he's like, oh, He's like, can you imagine He's like,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: you're just sitting here and you you know, give up
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: that goal and he's like, then you go home. And
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: just take it on. Your wife beat the shit out
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: of our We're like, what, Bruce, you now, I don't
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: actually mean that. I'm just saying you can imagine boil
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: over like Bruce Jesus man. But in all in good jess.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: He then he then walked it back and said his
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: wife would beat him so so then ended up becoming
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: funny as well. But but yeah, I mean, this Shark's
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: team is it's not good right now. You know, they
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: drop a game on the island. Schaeffer has two points.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: You know, they look they kind of got beat. Ask
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Groff hasn't been great to start the season. They thought
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: he would kind of take the net. It's not pretty
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: in Shark'sland right now whatsoever.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: So it's it's tough. I think they're one of them.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: They're the only team in franchise history to lose their
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: first five games four years straight. So they haven't won
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: a game in the last four years in TYW. You
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: can check this up on me if you want, but
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the last four years and now they're down to I
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: think they're to six now five or six. But the
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: first five games they've lost the past four years, so
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: that's not pretty out there.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: No.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: But speaking of pretty, one more top before we get
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to our buddy, Gabe Polski Shaeffer one goal, one assist
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: last night, second in defenseman points. My man is eighteen
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: years old and no greater authority than his head coach
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Patrick Waugh is even impressed by what Shaffer is doing
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: right now on Long Island. Amazing.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think we kind of set it
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: to like, hey, don't compare me to kill mccarr. But
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: this kid is definitely his own version of just a
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: stud defenseman. And I watched that game yesterday too, and yeah,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: he's he's fun to watch man. He's effortless when he skates,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: he seems excited, loves the game, plays a great two
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: hundred foot game. He plays PK plays power plays, been
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: the top power play unit. So you know you're getting
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: some points that way as this, you know you're getting
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: those second apples. But I mean, he gets up in
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: the rush so quickly, he stays up in the rush.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: He stays in front of the net. That goalie scored,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: he was on the he was on the post, and
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: he was the first guy at the net. And basically
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Douclaire gets that puck tries to shoot it, wraps it
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: around and he stays at the net. Most most dee
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: will vacate, but you know, because they're nervous and you're
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: you're kind of trained as a defenseman to get back
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: on the d side of the puck. So you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: very I mean, it's just such a good kid to
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: root for. Man, you just you love it. Everybody's you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I said it on the last pot and and you know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: like I feel like the energy and the positive vibes
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: that every single human being that watches Hockey's throwing towards
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: him is also propelling him and making him even It's
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: just like he looks like he's floating out there and
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: having a fun time. And you know, obviously he's going
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: to encounter some adversity. That's it's not going to be
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: like this his whole career, but for right now the start,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: he's having a young kid eighteen on this Islanders team
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: and willing them to wins. They're now five hundred. It's great, man,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: It's an awesome.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Story, no doubt about it. Easy got to root for.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: As you said, good news there in Long Island Ubs Arena,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: as Matthew Schaeffer has been one of the best defensemen
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: in hockey, early favorite for the Calder when we come
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: back here in NHL unscripted Gabe Polski. That's right, former
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: college player at Yale. He's got stories about Tim Taylor,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: or does he also stories from Beer League Hockey filmmaker
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: behind Red Army in Search of Greatness in his new film,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: which has joined comparisons of Werner Herzog, plus what's it
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: like to work with Nicholas Cage? Why I had a
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: slightly antagonistic relationship with his leading man? The Man who
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Saved the World name of his film. We're talking to
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Gabe Polski after this. Our next guest is an accomplished
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: director and producers. Films include Red Army in Search of Greatness,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Red Penguins, and Butcher's Crossing. His latest is The Man
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Who Saved the World. It premieres this month, is being
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: hailed as one of those innovative and compelling films of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the year. It is Gabe Polsky. Gabe, great to see
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you again, man.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: How you doing you too? You too? I'm doing well.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: That's been the same in Portland right now? Keeping it weird.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: You're all over the place. Obviously, I've talked to you
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: twice in the past about Red Army and about In
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Search of Greatness. We'll get your new film in just
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a second. But Red Army, there's a connection because our
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: friend Tal Pinchowski wrote a terrific book about all those
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: players defecting in similar crossovers, particularly Slava Fatisov, who was
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: so well illustrated in your film and well depicted in
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Tallas book. You know, you made waves with Red Army,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and I think people still talk about a great documentary
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: that was clearly your passion for hockey and as a
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: hockey player came through. But Fatisa up to me, is
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: still the guy. I want to talk about that last
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: shot where he gives you the finger. I mean, it
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: was so funny that you included that relationship you had
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: with him.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I still kind of unpacking that really relationship. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: you know, every time I see him, which is not
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: often now obviously because he's in Russia and you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: in the government there, and I haven't talked to him
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: for a while. But yeah, he's he's sort of a
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: weird guy. And I bet you most people that you
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: know met him have a hard time, you know, deciphering
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: the inner workings of his mind. He's a tough dude,
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: but he's also at the same time, you know, has
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: a really soft spot inside and it's kind of like
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: a bear and it is incredibly once you kind of
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: get in. He does have a kind of a big
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: warmth to him. You could you could see that a
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: bit in the film.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: It is that something that was kind of surprising to
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: you kind of diving into both of these films. And
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: was there anything else that that shocked you throughout the
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: process that you didn't know beforehand.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: About Red Army. Yeah, yeah, it's been a long time,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: but yeah, I mean I think you know, meeting meeting
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: these guys and getting to know them and kind of
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: what they went through living in the Soviet Union and
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: how how they trained and the coaching and all that
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: was definitely eye opening. I knew a little bit, but
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: then you know all the all the little details about
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: living in the camp and on the army base, and
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: and also how the Soviet government was, you know, essentially
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: taking all their money. You know, if they wanted to
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: go to the NHL, they get like, you know, a
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: tiny amount of money and the rest of it's paid
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: to the Soviet you know, government and sort of how
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: they're trying to enslave them essentially. So it was it
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: was eye opening. But you know, the most things you
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: learn about these films is not necessarily facts, but like
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: really you start to absorb their character as people and
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: the extit tricities. You know that that's what I'm left
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: with more.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, I played in the KHL three four years ago,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: when you know, it's kind of changed, but we lived
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: in the barracks. I lived on the barracks, on the base,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: the basa we called it, and I mean, it's it's
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: just so interesting the way they live and the way
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: they carry themselves on a day to day basis, even
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: just in that league. So it's like so eye opening
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: culturally to see that, and also you know, see that
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: it somehow works for them. You know, for me it
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: was a little bit different, but for them it worked
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: and some it didn't. But it was just so weird
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: and interesting in eye opening to see all that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's funny, you know, I know that on
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: a lot of other podcasts, you know, you know, there's
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: so many stories that come from that, especially kind of
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: when North American players go over there. It's just so
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: funny the culture shock. I haven't thought that. I was
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: actually thinking the other day that funny to do like
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: a slap shot kind of movie in.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Who Are the Handsome Brothers?
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, exactly, like like it would be just a
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: hilarious comedy. And I'm like, man, maybe I should write
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: something like that, you know, like.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: That would be interesting, Like, yeah, a slapshot style comedy
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: or like goon but about imports playing overseas.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as I mentioned, Tal wrote the book
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: break Away from Behind the Iron Curtain, the NHL the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Untold Street Hockey's Great Escape. So Tal, go ahead. You
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: can bomb with Gabe right now for shared histories here.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: Appreciate it. Thanks AV. Hey Gabe, I'm so excited. Hey, yeah, stoked.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: I'm glad Gabe's here, very exciting. I actually want to
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: ask about someone else we both know, which is Howard
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Baldwin or who is Howard Baldwin? And I'm so fascinated
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: by Red Tenguins, which is another great film you made
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: in the world of hockey, and you talked about this
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: strict centralized program in the Soviet Union, in Red Army,
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: in Red Penguins. It's the complete opposite, you.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Know, the.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: Cold War ends and its absolute lawlessness in the former
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: Soviet Union, and you got a pretty unique look into
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: kind of how that functioned with Howard and the Penguins
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: when they bought a team, a Russian pro team, and
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: it was absolute chaos. I mean, what do you recall
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: about kind of about that time in Russia.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so the Red Army. So the Pittsburgh Penguans bought
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: the Red Army team, you know, that same team that
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: was featured in Red Army, Red Army. So you know
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: that that's in itself as a just incredible because it
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: was the national team and it's just insane. You know
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: that everything was for sale. But what I vowed to
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: myself after Red Army that I'll never tell a story
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: in russ are even really hockey, because I felt like,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: you know, that's enough. You know, I did a lot there. Anyways,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: then this story came along, which I resisted for a
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: long time him and but what I felt about this
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: story read Penguins, was that I could tell kind of
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: a comedy, like in a way, it was like a
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: dark Cone Brothers comedy about mafia and gangsters. You know
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: how how strange and crazy life was, and that when
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: the Soviet Union collapsed right at that period, and so
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: it was just a real crazy story that got really dangerous.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: And you had this central character Steve Warshaw, who Howard Baldwin,
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: who himself was sort of this eccentric, you know, hockey
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: owner of the Penguins and before that, the Hartford Whalers.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: He hired this guy, Steve Warshaw, who was a you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: almost like a Ben Stiller character, to go over and
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: run in Russia, to Russia to run this team, the
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Red Army team with Victor Tikinoff the coach, who's this
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: sort of Nazisque character, and it just it it was
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: just a clash of cultures and complete insanity.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: And so the movie I had a lot of fun with.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, there was dangerous points when I was in
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Moscow and you know, getting chased around, I don't know
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: by people KGB or whatever. Like you know, we were
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: stopped a couple of times shooting and I was happy
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: to kind of get out of there safely. But it
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: was it was an incredible story, and yeah, that was
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: that was interesting to do.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Did a fantastic job with Searts of Greatness and my
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: buddy Ben Lyons, of course, is involved in producing it.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Ben's like, you gotta have gay bonds and a file
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: talking about I remember Jerry Rice actually called me like
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: direct cell, and I remember getting voice was, Hey, it's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, call me back. So I hope he sells
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the same number, so I hope that I can call him.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: But you talked to Jerry Rice, Pale, and of course
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Gretzky and of the three game but all three are excellent.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: But I thought Gretzky was particularly illuminating because he came across,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: as you know, insightful, but also j only modest, and
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I loved at the end when you're asking him just
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: literally wrapping up the whole concept of greatness and getting there,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and he kind of just gives a shrug. He's like, yeah,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: a little luck along the way too. I guess, like,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: like how cool is it? Like of all these great players,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Wayne seems to have the genuine humility to him.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah. He he's an interesting guy. I mean, I I
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: love him, and I'm so thankful that he agreed to
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: do the film. He he he's always sort of humble
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: like that, and he's he I think he really liked
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: the film and what he was trying to do because
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I I remember after he did the film, he went
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: on like you know, masterclass and started telling the same
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: stories and then he went on, you know, he would
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: just go on and talk about the similar stories that
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: he told and in search of greatness. And so I
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: take that as a compliment, you know, but yeah, it
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: was it was. It was you know, obviously because I
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: in hockey in college. So to be able to do
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: that and to build to me, it was like a
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: mic drop about everything that I really thought about sports
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: and about what I felt about sports and what was
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: wrong with with it, with particularly coaching and you know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: the creative aspect of sports. I was finally able to
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: kind of express that all all that I believed, you know,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: and so to have Gretzky to kind of narrated or
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: tell those points that that I'd been thinking my whole
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: life was great because you know, no one's gonna really
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: care about what I say. They care about what the
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: greatest of all times saying. So it's just like, you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: it just felt amazing.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Is is there anything specific from that that maybe changed
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: your perception of it or like maybe strengthened your resolve
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: in what you believe the kind of the search for
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: greatness is just talking and learning from those guys.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: I think just that these guys and you guys, it's
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: still people don't like to say it because it might
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: sound corny for the athletes, but that it's really all
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: about creativity. You know, greatness is all about creativity because
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: you see it over and over even with Tom Brady,
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: with all these guys who just don't fit the conventional mold,
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: and so they figure out, you know, they're not faster
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: or stronger this and that, like Messi who is shorter,
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: they figure out another style on how to change the
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: game and they sort of take it to another level
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: because of that and that weakness that they had, you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: And so I always felt, yeah, exactly like you take
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: that weakness that you have and you sort of lean
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: into it and figure out how to how to use
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: that uniqueness, that sacred uniqueness to to to change the
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: game instead of trying to be like everybody else. And
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: you know the problem is that a lot of the
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: coaches they say, oh no, no, no, he's not fast enough,
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: he's not this, but they're not really seeing yeah, a
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: player holistically.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: You know, that's an interesting take on it because my
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: dad was a lot like that of like, you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: finding out what you do well, or like finding out
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: a way to stand out and being creative with those
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: ways of like feeling out a game, feeling out the
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: process of a game, and understanding like hey, if you're
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: not a top end guy or you don't have that
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: you know, natural natural ability to find ways to be
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: creative in in standing out and being unique.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: So that's an interesting take.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I haven't anybody seen anybody frame it like that, so
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: that's pretty cool.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: But scoring goals has nothing to do with strength or
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: speed or it's all about understanding the game. And Tom Brady,
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, just as an example, he just understood the
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: game better. He didn't need to move faster. He knew
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: the game better, you know what I'm saying. He was
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: moving in his mind ten times faster than everybody else.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: Same with Gretzky. You know, it's great when you can
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: combine that skill like Jordan. Jordan is a great example
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: of a guy who just had a you know, incredible abilities,
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: you know, and and then also he understood the game
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: and you.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, and a massive you're gonna go along with it.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Two we're right now. But yeah, we know I'm not
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a big Jordan guy. We know you played Division one
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: hockeyt Yale under Tim Taylor. I want some of your
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: favorite memories playing pucks at Yale for the Bulldogs.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: Well, my favorite favorite memories are are not Tim Taylor.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: That that's.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: The absolute worst part of playing there by a thousand.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: But but playing with at the Yale Whale and and
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: with my teammates was you know, unbelievable. You know, I
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: just love being I just loved playing in games. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: know it sounds corny, but it just it felt like
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: freedom and and and just like I was at home,
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: you know, when I was just on the ice, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: when when you have the puck, you know you can
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: do anything with it. You know, you know you have
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: the puck, so what are you going to do with it?
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: I just love that feeling that that you can make
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: anything happen.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: It is It is a nice sense of freedom to
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: have that.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: And uh, did your when did your are you still playing?
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Did your are you still skating or or enjoying beer
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: League or anything like that now?
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: The last time I played, and it's not I mean
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: I definitely would would do it. But I I went
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: to I was in a beer League game and and
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: the players weren't very good. I was just doing all
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: those friends invited me and I a guy literally he
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: was on cocaine or something, but he he checked me
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: straight from behind, like a like a one eighty. So
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: you can't really look this way or that way. Was
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: that one spot that blind spot right behind me? Yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: checked me from behind, and I, because I didn't have
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: my equipment really secured because it's beer League or just
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: like whatever, my kneepad slipped and I cracked my knee
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: in half.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: No.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, vertical horizontal, horizonal.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Horizontal two on top of that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: That's brutal and so uh yeah, that was the last
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: time I've played, But I would play. I would do
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: it again. I mean just you know, but I haven't.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: I haven't really played.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: What have a terrible way if you have your career
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: end beerly cockey from a guy.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: On burle career. Yeah, no, no, that that's what I said.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not done. I'm not going to end it that way.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go again some other time.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: On the subject of legends, you directed Nicholas Cage in
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Butcher's crossing. What's the fondest memory you have a work
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: with Nick Cage?
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: Wow, that guy is really interesting.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I can imagine and he I mean I almost like
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: blacked it out, but he Well, first of all, the
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: film was so difficult to shoot.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: We like shot it in eighteen days and it was
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: all over Montana. Was like such a complicated shoot. So
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: I was just like, I was just like, I don't
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: know if you guys ever have gotten this way, but
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: you're like in survival mode and you're just literally like
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: trying to focus. You're not thinking about anything else but
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: just execution and nothing else, you know what I'm saying.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: And so like all these problems, thousands of them, and
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: then meanwhile Nick Cage is like losing his mind, you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: on the shoot, and I'm just like total zen, like
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: you know, like you just have to get through it
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: no matter what. He was playing a character Miller who
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: was like really intense. Well he always you know, he's
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: always intense, But imagine Nick Cage, yeah, doing this really
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: mysteriously kind of like he's Mike Michael Jordan. We talked
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: about it on set that he's he's Michael Jordan and
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: that kind of confidence. But intensity and kind of you know,
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: domination that he wanted to dominate everybody, you know, and
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: so he he was in character the whole time, and
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: he was I would say slightly antagonistic at times with me,
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: but I think we we love each other and respect
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: each other. But it was it was a challenging shoot.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Creativity is amazing. His lines like talk about like we're
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: talking about sports. But he he was so prepared that
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: he knew the script a lot better than me. Like
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: even though I wrote the script, but I didn't like
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: re memorize every line, remember every you know. He knew
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: everybody else's line, you know, and he could memorize it
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: so quickly. And but then also he'd have these like
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: phenomenally creative ideas that you know, I'd be like, all right,
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: let's let's try that, you know, because I wanted he's
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: just creative, you know, I want people to be creative.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: You know what do you mean by like one time
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: he said, you know, I want to take I want
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: to take this meat. It was raw buffalo meat, little
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: bloody or raw, and I want to I want to
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: like smack his face with it, this guy, the other
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: other character, and I'm like, all right, Let's let's try that.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I want to.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Like a big, like five pound piece of meat.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: So that he's showing the creative How would you describe it?
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: He was slightly antagonistic towards you can you give me
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: an example of that.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I should say that, but one time,
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: like at the very beginning of the shoot, he was
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: sort of playing trying to find his his accent, and
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: it was like the first day, and I was like,
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: you know, he started, you know, basically using the accent,
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: and on the first day of the shoot, the first scenes,
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, you know, Nick, I think it should
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: be a little bit less kind of accenty. Maybe I
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: couldn't like quite articulately say what do you mean? What? What? What? What?
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: Like like what tell me? Show me what what do
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: you what do you mean? And I could tell he
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: was getting you know, really, I was like, you know,
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: just your normal voice, you know, you're you know, you
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: don't you don't need to do the accent. It was
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: just like, you know, I almost like caused a huge fight,
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: you know, right on the first day. And so I
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: was like, Okay, this is gonna be this is gonna
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: be an interesting shoot, you know, but I had worked
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: with Nick Cage on on Bad Lieutenant with Werner Herzog
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: and I produced the first kind of film that I
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: was involved with, and that was that was a wild shoot.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: But anyways, Nick knew me from there and kind of,
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: you know, we were friendly.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: So you know, yeah, I can only imagine the countless stories.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: But I want to unpack your your most recent and
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: probably the most fascinating subject you've tackled, the man who
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Saved the World. I mean for our audience members, just
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: to kind of give a kind of brief description of it.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: But I find it's so fascinating kind of the story
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: of you know, River, Patrick McCollum, you know, it's connection
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: with Jane Goodall and all that. I just think it's
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: such a cool, cool concept and just wanted to have
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: you break it down for us.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: And you mentioned Herzog game. It definitely feels her Zoggi
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: And if one might say, go ahead.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: Well, I've got a story about that. But the story
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: is about a kind of a spiritual outlier named Patrick
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: McCollum that is approached by elders of the of the
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: Amazon rainforests, many of them at a peace gathering they
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: came to him and said, Patrick, we think you're this
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: guy in this prophecy that we've had for hundreds of years,
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: when the world is in a dire place, there will
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: be a man who comes that helps essentially unite the
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: tribes of the Amazon to restore the Amazon and essentially
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: save the earth. And Patrick McCombs says, you know, I
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: don't think i'm the guy. I'm just a regular guy,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: you know whatever. But then ultimately, after several years, he says,
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna just see what
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: this is and I'm gonna go down and try and
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: fulfill this prophecy. And I kind of learned about the
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: story reluctantly, really and just and decided to ultimately kind
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: of follow this guy as he tries to fulfill this prophecy.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: But really it's a character study. This guy's like a fascinating,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: kind of really eccentric character that's very it's funny, you know,
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: And and that's what the.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Story is, Like I said, because the doc is about me,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: who's so quirky. Now she makes you think of Werner
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Herzog cause you said you worked together about the Tenor protocol. Yeah,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: give me the Herzog story to.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: This, Oh god, this is this is good. Well, I
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: don't want to well anyway, So I screen a cut
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: for Verner Hertzog in my house and I start to
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: notice that he's kind of squirming, and you know, like
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: it might not you know, I was like, man, I
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: wonder what's going on. And so after the film he
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: tells me, you know, Gabe, there's gonna be like a
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: lot of people that like this film, you know, these
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: new age kind of people and you know, these sort
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: of pseudo spiritual people whatever, you know, But I'm I'm
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: not one of them. And you know, Verner supported my
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: work and and you know, he was an executive producer.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: He you know, he really genuinely loves my work. And
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: you know, obviously I wasn't devastated because I'm a big
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: boy and like, you know, some people aren't gonna like
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: your film. But he basically goes on to tell me
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: that it was too painful. It was painful for him
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: to watch. I'm like why, He's like, well, because my
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: dad was like this essentially mentally ill guy. He was
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: actually in the National Socialist Party Party where he came
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: back from the war, and he would basically have people
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: over and he would tell them all these stories, like
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: and the kids would sit around the table and be
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: like dad, like in their head, like, what the hell
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: is he talking about? He's making up all this crazy stuff.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: And afterwards they go to their dad and say, this
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: is all what are you talking about? He would just
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: stare at them with like a blank stare, and everyone
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: knew that he was just like literally crazy. So for Werner,
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: I think it was just too painful to see a
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: guy who kind of is like that, and he couldn't
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: watch it, like, you know. The irony is that everybody
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: who I've shown the movie to the one of the
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: first things that say, oh, that's kind of like Herzog.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, so I knew that if anything is
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: like Herzog, it's like this movie morally, you know. So
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: I find it very ironic that hers yeah, that that
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: he sort of says that, and a lot of his
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: characters are like guys like.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: This, speaking of greats that are misunderstood, let me go.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, speaking of greats that are misunderstood,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: let me wrangle this back. Connor McDavid, here h, I
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: saw you post something about watching Connor McDavid live and yeah,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: and kind of being amazed by the way he creates
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: plays And is he kind of somebody you keep an
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: eye on or do you have a player right now
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: in the NHL that is a favorite yours. I know
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: you're super busy kind of promoting the film and all that,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: but just checking in on the stories right now that
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: are happening in the NHL.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I I the fact. Unfortunately, the first time I
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: tried to watch Connor McDavid in LA, he was injured
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: and I actually went to the game and he was scratched.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: I brought a friend and I was super bummed. And
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: then the next time it was the Stanley Cup final
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: when they lost and and he just didn't do anything.
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: So but I I what I love is is is
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: somebody who always does not necessarily but always does something
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: productive with the puk, you know, trying to make place people,
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: trying to to be creative and and and doing making
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: a play, you know, not just not just to be fancy,
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: but to really, you know, be be productive. So I
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: need some help from you guys. Who should I be?
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: But there are and there are also players that are
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: sort of unexpectedly uh you know, like I was saying earlier,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: they they might not look like they're the most talented,
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: but they're always like making stuff happen and and and
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: I find that really interesting or like unconventional players, you know,
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: uh so I.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Could see you liking the Kachucks, Kape, Matthew and Brady
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: because they play with the kids. Are exciting players.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, who would be a Werner Herzog to you
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: of a player?
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Who would be Brad Marshan just crazy out there. Brad
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Marshank came out, what about the fight? He took the
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: other guy's helmet and he literally started ripping up the
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: helmet in the penalty box. He started ripping it out,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: and you gotta get that fucking helmet back. He's like,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: oh okay, here you go. He got five twenty five
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: undred dollars this who the hell the fight takes helmet?
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I'd say Brandon tannev with the thousand yards stare. He
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: has all the pictures where he doesn't blink. I feel
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: like that would be that'd be a close comparable. But
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: I mean you're in La so so you see Anse Copatar.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's an unconventional guy in today's NHL. Like
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: he's not super fast, but he's able to create and
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: be creative within his frame because he's not the fastest,
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: but he's able to buy time in space and kind
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: of you know, make these plays a seemingly nothing.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, and and and it's just so cool how
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: every player has just like a little bit of a
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: different style about them, you know, and that that's that's
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: kind of the cool thing about the NHL is just
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: you know, like I just remember the days of like
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: Yager and Lemieux. I mean, everyone's just like has such
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: a unique and Gretzky and eyes, you know, Sakic has
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: another style and this guy, you know, everyone has like
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: just a little bit of a different style and players
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: instead of like I said, you know, conforming, but it's
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: you have to really develop your own thing, you know.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Well he's definitely developed his own thing. And Gabe Polsky
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: has been a remarkable filmmaker. I encourage everyone to go
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: check out his new film. It's called The Man Who
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Saved the World. Gave tell everybody where they can see
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: this terrific movie.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So on the website The Man who Saves Theworld
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: dot com are all the show times, Uh, and events
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: that we're we're having and they'll be updated. We're going nationwide.
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: We're going kind of not necessarily super fast, but we'll
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: be around in every city. And on social it's who
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: saves the World and yeah, that's that's.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Be on the lookout and go see it please. And
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: also we're starting to write a KHL import comedy for
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: for a hockey based movie. So let's let's get it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: I will I will throw my hat in the ring
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: to play a Russian.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I'll do it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I'll throw it in the ring. I can still skate
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: at beer League.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: All right, all right, let's do it.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, all right, more hockey talk on the way,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of baseball talk here, as the
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Blue Jays are in the World Series. But first Cinophile
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: in sixty Mistress Scorsese landing an Apple TV plus credible
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: comprehensive five part four and a half documentary from Rebecca Miller,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: also known as Daniel Day Lewis's wife. So she has
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: known Marty for a long time and of course d
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: DL loves Marty worked to them on the Age of
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Innocence and Gangs of New York. Unforgettably is Bill the Butcher.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely fabulous for guys like me and Tell and
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Hey JD. If you love moves, who does love Martin Scorsese.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: The first bread I thought was the most educational because
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: that was about his upbringing. Who would have thought a
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: guy who is in his eighties still has buddies from
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood. That, to me is my favorite party. Guy's
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: talked about little Marty running around little Italy when he's ten, eleven, twelve,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the fact he studied to be a priest, and as
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: one of the guys said, I know it wasn't gonna happen.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Marty had a heavy eye for the ladies, and I
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: was like, all right, that's why Marty couldn't be a
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: priest one day. And then you go through. One of
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: the favorite parts of this early section is, you know,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the first episode builds beautifully as I texted Tell, a
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: couple of jump cuts, you know, Jumping Jack Flash comes on,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: which is the music that De Niro entered to in
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Mean Streets, and Jay Cox, who's Marty's longtime friendly collaborator, goes,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you gotta meet this guy. I gotta meet this guy.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I've got a party who then he cut to a
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: shof is smirking Robert de Niro. Cut to the credits
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: episode one in the books, So episode two is about
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Mean Streets and now Bob and Marty are working together
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and guys from the neighborhood. And one of the funniest
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: parts is they're talking about de Niro's character in Mean Streets.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Mean Streets literally lit up the revolution in the seventies, right,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: people love movies. Pauline Kale said, this marks the beginning
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: of a singular filmmaking talent in Martin Scorsese. And they
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: asked you here, who's your character based on He says,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: what was what in Marty's uncles? And also another guy
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: from the neighborhood, and they said, we're gonna talk to him,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: and Denier kind of gives that pause, like is he
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: still alive? Like these guys are old now, right, they're
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: in their eighties. So they find the guy. The guy
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: calls me. He's like, hey, yeah, they're doing this documentary
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: on Marty. They want to talk to you. The guy comes,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: he's like, you're the guy that Deannio's playing. Basically, Mean
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Streets is like, yeah, yeah, Money did a good job
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: with it. Money did a good job with it. These
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: guys are so authentically from that era and from that time.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: The documentary then, of course goes into Taxi Driver, one
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: important film that was not only you know, sound from Denio,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: but obviously people were just influenced by the movie. Daniel
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: D Lewis says, I watched Taxi Driver six times when
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: it came and I just kept going over and over
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: to go see this movie. Jodie Foster talks with the
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: impact it had on her. We get to Raging bullcanp Comedy.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: The final part is leader to DiCaprio because Marty kind
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: of thought he was dead in the nineties. He's like, oh,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: you know what, Condone didn't work out religious epic about
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: the Dalai Lama bringing up the Dead, which reunited him
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: with Paul Strader and starred Nicholas Cage. Gay Polski's buddy
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: didn't do well at the box officuely because I think
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: it might just be done, and all of a sudden,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: DiCaprio says, because oh my god, my hero is Martin Scorsese.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I'll work with him. Really, So we get like the
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: third or the fourth act of Marty's career, Gangs of
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: New York The Aviator of the Departed. He finally wins
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: an oscar, Wolfe of Wall Street, which is his most
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: successful financial film, made over four hundred million dollars worldwide,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: The Irishman, ten Oscar nominations, and of course Killers of
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: the Flower Moon. It's an incredible documentary. Tell there's a
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: lot to take away from it, but I love the
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: fact Marty himself is the most engaging guy. He's funny,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: he's interesting, he's honest, five marriages, cocaine addiction, overcame an
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: overdose which led to Raging Bull. He's very open about
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: his life and open about the films that he loves.
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, just an amazing life. I would have liked
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: to see more about his performance in Shark Tale, but
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: maybe that'll be for another story. But I mean, he's
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: it's such a tribute to his resilience as a person
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: and as a filmmaker. I mean, the thing I love,
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: other than the fact that he had to wear a
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: bulletproof vest to the Oscars because of the John Hinckley shooting,
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: which is crazy, inspired this guys driver, right, and so
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: he has this run where he makes mean streets taxi
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: driver and Raging Bull, and then he makes a couple
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: of flops and his career is over, and then he
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: has this run in the nineties, and this might be
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: one of the best runs any filmmakers that ever had.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: From ninety to ninety.
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: Five Good Fellas, Cape, fear Age of Innocence, Michael Jackson's
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: Bad Video, and Casino, just one after the other. Then
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: he does kon Doing which you mentioned and bringing out
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: the Dead, and his career.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Is over again.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: It's just crazy.
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: And then he's done again after making all these incredible films.
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: And then, as you mentioned, he teams up with DiCaprio
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: and he just goes right back at it.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Some of the best collaborators of stories are his longtime
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: friend and oftentimes people compare them his rivals, but they're
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: good friends. And Steven Spielberg's Peber talks about how much
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: he loves Taxi Driver and he said, when I watched
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Raising Bolam, like he's done it, Like he's done again.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: To paulma again close friend. In many ways a father
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: figured that Marty was like, God, damn it. He's like
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: what he goes you watch good fuzdzs He go, shit,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: you go, what do you go? Marty's done? It again
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: because we're all competitive, we're all directors. Go Marty beat
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: us again, like this sucks man, Marty got us again,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: you know, the great shot and then touchable as JD.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Remember when the baby carriage is coming down and Kevin
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Coster is running Andy Gercy's ready tosses the gun to him.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful, right slow motion tracking shot. Marty goes,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna top that. So in Goodfellas, that's where they
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: have that copra shot of Henry Hall taking Karen into
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: the club going in the back. He's like, oh, how
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: long was Di Pauma's tracking shot? Three minutes. I'm gonna
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: make mine five minutes. We'll make it even more glorious.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: And people talk about that inning as well. So it
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what that world is. They're all super competitive,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: but they're all great, great guys and great friends. I
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: encourage everyone to check out Mistres Scorsese. The Flora is
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Jason de Burr's Good Fortune New Disease in Sorry movie,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Talk to me.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: This is a great film.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: You felt like we went long with polls because you're
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: going quick on your come on now, I mean, yeah,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: just it's it's kind of one of those like you know,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: tugs of your heartstrings a bit, and and you know
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: there's the undertones of like does money solve problems?
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: And and yes it does, but does it really? And
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: you know, is losing yourself and losing the life you
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: have and being happy where you are more important than
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: you know, chasing something or also just chasing something that's
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: you know, worthwhile to you and and you know, so
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: it's just weird. They just kind of play on the
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: whole you know, upper class, lower class. You know, countter
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Reeves is a is also an angel that's not happy
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: in the position he's in even though he's doing good work,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: you know, stopping people from texting and driving. And that
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: is the funny thing. He is the he is the
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: angel that touches your shoulder when you were texting and
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: driving about to crash. So he saves lives but doesn't
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: believe he's doing enough and wants to save a lost soul,
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: and in doing that, he ends up overstepping his boundaries
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: because he is an angel of you know, texting and driving,
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: not you know, fixing lost souls. So he ends up
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: diving into that and trying to fix his He's on
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: sorry who hates his life and is a lost soul
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: and wants to be gone, so gives his He's on, sorry,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: all this rich in wealth and says he won't be happy,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: you won't enjoy all this rich in wealth because that's
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: not like the point of life. And he's like, I'm
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: gonna check back on you in a week. And in
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: a week he comes back and he's on sorry. He's like,
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not leaving, and he's like and they're like, so
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: wait a minute. He's like, you know, he's like, what
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: do you mean I'm not leaving? And he's like he's
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: like yeah, he's like this is great. He's like, you're
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: telling me. He's like, why would I want to go
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: back to my life? So then you know it's Count
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: of Reeves talking with the angel, the head of the angels,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: and she's saying, you know, why.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: What did you What the hell did you do? Why'd
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: you overstep your boundaries.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: He's like, I was trying to show him that money
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: doesn't solve your problems, and she goes and and he
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: goes it solves ninety five percent of your problems, but
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: becomes this weird kind of mix of it of like
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: is money the key to happiness and all these things.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: So in Seth Rogan's great, count who's great. He plays
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: his kind of like mumbling, fumbling actor that we all
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: love and love to watch, and you know, he's just
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: he's he's one of those he's one of those actors
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: you root for and no matter what he's in it,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: no matter if he's got awful, you just it's you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: enjoy to watch him.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: So good, good watch, good film.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Good pacing, and uh yeah, it's kind of one of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: those movies you smile at the end.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Blue Jays in the World Series first time since ninety three.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: The Krack and war Mariners jerseys to the rink before
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: their four to three overtime win against the Leafs in Toronto.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: That propped the Blue Jays to reach it to Crack
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: and Ford Shane Wright, who's your product of Burlington Turior?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: That felt the first pitch out of Jay's game. Next season,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: the Jays win the Game seven. Quasi jersey swap. Austin
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Matthews and Vlad Junior. Matthews were a Guerrero jersey before
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: the game Tuesday night, Vlad sporting in Matthews jersey before
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Game seven. How about this Jays run in the fact the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: hockey guys JD are paying you know what this is
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: like Sanose guys pay attention, Niners giants for the local
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: team is Warriors, right.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Toronto Blue Jays are Canada's team. Let's go no hockey team,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: that's if they witness thing, which you know, I think
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: this might be quick, but but I mean, what a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: what an astonishing feat that they've pulled off. And I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: mean it's I'm an Expos fan and that's as far
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: as my kind of baseball documen goes, you know, growing up,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: and you know, I watched Vladdie. You know, I watched
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Lattie and and you know I watched his dad and
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: and you know what Moises Alul, Larry Walker and all
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: these amazing names, and it was so much fun. And
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: you know, Canada can handle a baseball culture. And I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: think there is a lot of huge baseball fans in
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Canada and it's fun to see, you know, them make
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: it here.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: And I mean, listen this.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: They say it might be easy, and I think, you know,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Dodgers probably walks all over him, but Boba Schet's back.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's there who knows, you know, Cinderella story
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: it's what is it like one billion versus three hundred
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: and thirty million, It's like some crazy number. But the funny,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: the funniest part of that is when when Vladdie was
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: wearing the Matthews jersey and everybody posted poor Matthews. They
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: posted all his playoff stats and they're like, it's over.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Whereas VOT has been a playoff monster, ALCS MVP
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: has been absolutely incredible and it was really cool seeing
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: the crowds erupting at the hockey games in Montreal and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Calgary for the Jay's. I was in Montreal, as tal knows,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: doing Sabers habs. What else would you want to be
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: doing during Game seven of the Blue Jays Mariner series,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: and I had my producer in my ear, Just go, George,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: And I just said to John Fordon, who was the
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: voice of the Seattle Crack and gay by the way,
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  Speaker 1: for as he congratulations three one Mariners. Looking good. He so, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm objective. I'm really happy for those guys. I'm pulling
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  Speaker 1: for Seattle, like I know you're so. Then, literally, as
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  Speaker 1: we're wrapping up, thanks to what you're watching, Habs win
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  Speaker 1: four two, lighton Houtson, What a straight prices Americas. George
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  Speaker 1: Springer three run home run. I go and I like
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  Speaker 1: the Walter Crockett. I'm being told that George Springer has
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  Speaker 1: just hit a three run home run, the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 1: have taken lead, and you just hear the crowd erupt
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  Speaker 1: and I'd asked Jeff Gordon, the president of the ABS.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to Marty Saint Louis. I said, they said,
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  Speaker 1: we're watching the Jays, and I said, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if people are interested in much. Rob'd assume, like JD,
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  Speaker 1: you're an Expos family. They left, Okay, I'm just not
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  Speaker 1: gonna like baseball. He said, yeah, but you're getting like
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  Speaker 1: fifteen year olds. I don't even remember. The experts were
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  Speaker 1: just baseball fans, so then they're Jays fans, and then
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  Speaker 1: you will get the older guy who goes, well, the
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  Speaker 1: Exposts guys still like baseball? Why not?
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  Speaker 5: So?
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  Speaker 1: I was actually Taladell if you've seen that, but in
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  Speaker 1: Murell walk around the bars and stuff. They were maybe
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  Speaker 1: because it was a Game seven, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: baseball fans there.
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  Speaker 3: And quickly tell tad to that like that would this
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  Speaker 3: would never happen in hockey, Like when you look at
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  Speaker 3: because there's only one team in Canada for baseball. But
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  Speaker 3: like if Toronto makes it to the finals, like no
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  Speaker 3: Calgary Flames fan or Edmonton Oris fans is gonna be
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  Speaker 3: rooting for the Toronto even though we haven't won in
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  Speaker 3: fucking forty years. So it's like crazy to see Canada
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  Speaker 3: kind of unite continue.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the country would be. It would be
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  Speaker 6: very challenging for Canadians if say the Leafs made the
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  Speaker 6: Cup final, because as much as Canadians want to see
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  Speaker 6: a Canadian team finally win the Cup, they don't want
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  Speaker 6: to see the Leafs do it.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's that's the team that is.
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  Speaker 6: So overexposed because of who they are and where they're located.
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  Speaker 6: That I think a lot of Canadians are just tired.
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  Speaker 6: Plus there's six other Canadian teams for them to root for.
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  Speaker 6: In baseball it's just the Jays, and basketball it's just
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  Speaker 6: the Raptors. So those are Canada's teams. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: like you mentioned Ad, now there's there's a whole a
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  Speaker 6: couple of generations now of baseball fans in Montreal never
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  Speaker 6: even got a chance to see the Expos.
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  Speaker 1: So it's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's exciting.
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  Speaker 6: I think, look, Nick Schuzooki's a captain of the Habs,
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  Speaker 6: He's a JAS guy. All these NHL players from Canada
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  Speaker 6: are a Jay's guy. They're clearly Canada's team.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to be a.
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  Speaker 6: Monster underdog against the Dodgers. But I think that'll make
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  Speaker 6: it pretty exciting. And I will add the fact that
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  Speaker 6: they crushed the Yankees. I think everyone started when that happened.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone started piling on the Jay's bandwagon and it's just
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  Speaker 6: been growing since then.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dodgers a formidable opponent. They're starting. Pitching is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Otani had the best playoff game I've ever seen in
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  Speaker 1: my life. Six innings, two hits, ten strikers, and he
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  Speaker 1: hit three home runs. So Otani pitching is going to
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  Speaker 1: be unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: It's say with me, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, ooh Canada, ooh Canada.
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  Speaker 2: I can't damn Canada.
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  Speaker 1: Last thought, bring it home with my Quebec boys. Big
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  Speaker 1: announcement from the Avalanche unveiled now bec Nordik's Throwback seventy season,
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  Speaker 1: commemorating the thirtieth anniversary the team moving to Colorado two
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  Speaker 1: games against the former Hartford Whalers were now the Hurricanes.
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  Speaker 1: Do you love this tribute to the great city of
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  Speaker 1: Quebec City, Michelle Gully the Stasites JDS.
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  Speaker 3: Signal stolen valor do not take my goddamn beloved Nordiick's
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  Speaker 3: and bring them to Denver, Colorado. I don't care if
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  Speaker 3: it's a tribute. It's not a tribute. Are you donating
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  Speaker 3: that money to Quebec, to the city, to the rink
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  Speaker 3: that was built for Quebec Nordiak's team?
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  Speaker 2: And I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I'll say it. It doesn't sit right with me. I
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  Speaker 3: don't like it, and I don't want to see any
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  Speaker 3: part of it. I don't care how nice the jerseys are, because.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're not.
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  Speaker 3: You are You're keeping all the money though, You're keeping
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  Speaker 3: all the fucking money, just like the Whalers. Same thing
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  Speaker 3: with the Whalers in Carolina. That is not your team.
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  Speaker 3: That is not your team. You are the Carolina her Urricanes.
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  Speaker 3: You are not the Carolina Whalers. You were the Hurricanes.
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  Speaker 3: You stole our team, You stolen Colorado from under us,
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  Speaker 3: and oh god, the Nordeeks need to come back.
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  Speaker 2: To go back, because now what do you do now?
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  Speaker 3: If the Nordieks come back, or if Quebec it's a team,
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  Speaker 3: well you're gonna take it back from Denver to fucking Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: I never liked the avalanche. I never did. Never did.
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  Speaker 3: Stolen Valor, Stolen Valor.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. That's because you get tunnel for this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Just called it stolen vallord. This is Stolen Valor episode.
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  Speaker 1: It's great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just pay tribute to everybody, to make money
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  Speaker 2: off everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just do that. Let's pay tribute. Let's do spitting
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  Speaker 3: chick lits and let's pay tribute to them. And we're
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  Speaker 3: spitting chick litscre and call ourselves spitting chicklets.
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  Speaker 2: And then just make it take all the money from it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk a bit, we'll make it happen. Tall your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and whether pay homage the Nordiks. Are you with
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  Speaker 1: JD A's Stolen Valor?
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  Speaker 2: So?
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  Speaker 6: When I spoke to Howard Baldwin about a topic.
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  Speaker 2: He's a fucking turn He's a fucking turncoat.
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  Speaker 6: Tell he's you know, we talked about whaler's name in Carolina.
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  Speaker 6: He basically called it a cash grab and said that
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  Speaker 6: if the hurricanes really cared about Hartford they'd played an
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  Speaker 6: exhibition game or a regular season game there, so I
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  Speaker 6: would I would probably make the same point. I love
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  Speaker 6: the throwbacks. I love seeing the retro stuff out there.
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  Speaker 6: But I do think, I do think if the Avalanche
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  Speaker 6: really do care about their history, particularly the history in Quebec,
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  Speaker 6: they should play at least a preseason game in Quebec City.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why they haven't.
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  Speaker 6: They can wear the Canadians against the throwback jerseys. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: where the where the Nordics throwbacks against the Canadians in
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  Speaker 6: Quebec City for a preseason game.
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  Speaker 2: It would be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: They should do like a They could do an inner
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  Speaker 3: squad game. They could do three days there and play
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  Speaker 3: you know, Toronto. You could do everything. It's again to me,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's lazy marketing and I don't like it. Listen
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  Speaker 3: do which I can like a lot of things the
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  Speaker 3: NHL does, and a lot of the things the NHL
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  Speaker 3: team said, this is not one of them. Team my dad,
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  Speaker 3: my dad's company basically provided the glass for the Sante
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  Speaker 3: video that was built for the NHL hockey team, and
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  Speaker 3: that was never used. It's used by the ramparts now.
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  Speaker 3: But and it's I did play in it, but it's
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  Speaker 3: absolute bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: And I liked nipops.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know the salt or video throlle No.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm I'm I was born in Montreal,
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  Speaker 3: but I've lived most of my life in Quebec City,
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  Speaker 3: so it's like I understand the pain, the sorrow, the
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  Speaker 3: hurt right from under us.
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  Speaker 1: As you said, exhibition game in Quebec City. Then talk
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  Speaker 1: to me, I asked TJ. Raddick years ago. I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know you have like a wish list if you're
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  Speaker 1: the ANHL commissioner. She asked mego, I'd love to see
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  Speaker 1: a team Inquebec City again. I go, just tell me
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  Speaker 1: about what it would take, and he goes, A billionaire
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  Speaker 1: owner and a new rink. I go, okay, well, I'll
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  Speaker 1: just pray for those things to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe one a fine one. Let's get there. If we
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  Speaker 3: sell unscripted, we could maybe buy it.
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  Speaker 1: Billionaire owner and a new rink, bring back the Nordics.
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