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Bill Riley on Utah FB recruiting, Should they focus more on transfers or high schoolers (?), Runnin Utes hosting Oklahoma St tomorrow + m... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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  Speaker 2: You heard the music, you know what it means.
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  Speaker 3: It means.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Riley joins us here on Utah's number one sports
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  Speaker 2: talk Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN seven hundred. Bill, welcome,
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  Speaker 2: How are.
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  Speaker 3: You couple of things? Sean? Nobody can ever say that
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  Speaker 3: you don't talk about a variety of things in your
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  Speaker 3: opening segment on your show, breast milk to epidurals, to
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  Speaker 3: horrific sports injuries to eyes being gouged out like a
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  Speaker 3: bowling ball. You ran the gamut in the first thirty
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  Speaker 3: two minutes of your show today.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take it as a compliment, even
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  Speaker 2: if it's not intended to be one, because.
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  Speaker 3: That was us. I'm not sure it is a compliment.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just out of stating what I listen to do,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm still trying to I'm processing right now. I'll
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  Speaker 3: try to focus on this segment. I'm still trying to
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  Speaker 3: process what I just listened to.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, Bill, I'm just trying to process whether or not
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  Speaker 2: that was a blackout, stream of consciousness moment that should
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  Speaker 2: have been stricken.
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  Speaker 3: From the record.
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  Speaker 2: But here we are with the voice of the youth.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll talk about the Utes. I want to get
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  Speaker 2: to college basketball games. You're gonna be calling the running
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  Speaker 2: Utes tomorrow. We'll get there in a second. But right now,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like this quiet period ish for Utah
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  Speaker 2: football after, let's be honest, a wild and tumultuous several
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  Speaker 2: weeks at the end of the actual college football season,
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  Speaker 2: and now we're settled into like this, all right, what
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  Speaker 2: are they doing? What's happening? And for people who don't know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of recruiting going on right now. Not
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  Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty six class necessarily, because as Morgan
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  Speaker 2: state on this show, they're down to you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: one or two players they need to add. It's about
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  Speaker 2: laying the foundation for next year. And it's about a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the high school recruiting and I guess some
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  Speaker 2: JUCO stuff, and I just wonder what role you think
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  Speaker 2: this period and that old tradition plays in modern football
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  Speaker 2: for the Utes specifically, because yeah, you still want to
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  Speaker 2: get a nice high school pipeline, but with the transfer
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  Speaker 2: portal being so much more important now and whatnot? Is
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  Speaker 2: it more important than it ever was? Is it less
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  Speaker 2: important than it used to be? What does this particular
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  Speaker 2: time period mean for the utes?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's important, But I think what you're doing
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  Speaker 3: now is, yeah, you're creating kind of your database for
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  Speaker 3: next year, whether that's high school or junior college or
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  Speaker 3: whatever that might happen to be. But you're not taking
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  Speaker 3: as many people as you used to, So you're creating
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  Speaker 3: your pool. And my guess would be over the next
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  Speaker 3: six to nine months, you're whittling that pool down because
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  Speaker 3: we all know, Sean, you're leaving half of your scholarships
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  Speaker 3: if not more, probably in that neighborhood of half to
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  Speaker 3: the transfer portal. If you, let's say you've got twenty
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  Speaker 3: five spots to fill, you're probably leaving twelve or thirteen
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  Speaker 3: or more as maybe portal guys. And then you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: fill that in with quality young high school players and
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  Speaker 3: or perhaps junior college players that could fill those voids.
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  Speaker 3: So I still think it's very important. You cannot live
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  Speaker 3: solely in the transfer portal. You just can't. We saw
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  Speaker 3: Colorado try to do it, and it's now becoming very
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  Speaker 3: clear that that's a failed attempt by Dion Sanders because
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  Speaker 3: he isn't finding generational talents in the portal like he
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  Speaker 3: had with his son and with Travis Hunter. You can't
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  Speaker 3: live solely in the portal. Good schools, good teams, and
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  Speaker 3: I think Utah falls in this category. Find the really
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  Speaker 3: good blend, and that blend's not gonna be fifty to
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  Speaker 3: fifty every year. Some years it might be a sixty
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  Speaker 3: forty high school juke go to transfer portal blend, and
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  Speaker 3: then then maybe in some other years it's sixty forty
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  Speaker 3: the other way. But I don't think you can really
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  Speaker 3: build a foundation for a program with sixty five or
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  Speaker 3: seventy or seventy five percent of your players coming into
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  Speaker 3: your program as portal players, because I don't think that
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  Speaker 3: that's a sustainable model. So back to the original point,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's very important that you do it, and
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  Speaker 3: you're creating kind of your database now of those players
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  Speaker 3: that you like, but you're in years gone by you
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  Speaker 3: might be targeting twenty five players. Now you'll probably whittle
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  Speaker 3: that number down to fifteen to anywhere from thirteen to
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  Speaker 3: seventeen players that you might go after, and maybe that
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  Speaker 3: makes it easier, maybe that makes it harder. I guess
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  Speaker 3: it just depends on the players that you're going after in.
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  Speaker 2: The transfer portal. Specifically, there's the powerful lateral move guys,
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  Speaker 2: the bounce backs, whatever you want to call them. And
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  Speaker 2: then there's the group of five under recruited out of
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  Speaker 2: high school or out of Juco and they end up
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  Speaker 2: at a New Mexico and then they come to Utah.
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  Speaker 2: They end up being great players for you, like we
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  Speaker 2: saw with r D and like we saw obviously with
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  Speaker 2: the starting quarterback Devin dan Pierre. I think for me,
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  Speaker 2: I think Utah should live in that world, even a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more than the powerful latter transfer guys. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, you head a John Henry Daily that is
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  Speaker 2: the opposite example of emphasizing one thing over the other.
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  Speaker 2: Where do you think Morgan Scali and Utah will have
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  Speaker 2: more success if you had to prognosticate over the next
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  Speaker 2: five years, would it be the upward mobility guys or
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  Speaker 2: would it be the I stole him from BYU or
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  Speaker 2: from Colorado or from Arizona State type guys.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it really depends on you know, again, you're you
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  Speaker 3: know what where you want to go to me a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the guys that you're stealing from those programs.
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  Speaker 3: We use the word stealing, grabbing, taking. It's an open market.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody's stealing anybody these caves. Not like your kid apping
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  Speaker 3: these kids in the middle of the night and taking
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  Speaker 3: them from Boulder to Salt Lake City. They're making the
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  Speaker 3: conscious choice to go where they go. I like the
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  Speaker 3: idea of grabbing guys that had high level success at
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  Speaker 3: the Group of five level and bringing them over. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you look like a kid. The two wide receivers Utah had.
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  Speaker 3: The two big receivers that Utah got were high level
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  Speaker 3: producers group of five schools in the mount West Conference.
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  Speaker 3: Kylie Scholz and Braden Pagan. These two guys had elite
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  Speaker 3: level seasons last year in the Mountain West Conference. That's
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  Speaker 3: high level production. I think I would rather do that
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  Speaker 3: the high level production guys from a slightly lower level
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  Speaker 3: than the guys that are making lateral, you know, conference
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  Speaker 3: moves that maybe had lesser production at a Power five school.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you look at Pagan, you look at Shoals.
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  Speaker 3: These guys were sixty seventy catch guys at the Mountain
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  Speaker 3: West level that were making explosive plays. I think I
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  Speaker 3: would rather have that than a guy that might be
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  Speaker 3: teasing you with a little possibility that maybe played at
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  Speaker 3: a power five sec Big ten, Big twelve school that
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  Speaker 3: maybe had much less production production, maybe they had fifteen
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  Speaker 3: or twenty catches. I don't think it's a bad move
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  Speaker 3: either way. But if I'm picking between the two, I'll
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  Speaker 3: take the high level production at the group of five level.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you'll do what what Iowa State did a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years ago, Noel and Higgins, who were their
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  Speaker 3: two big receivers who are now both playing in the
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  Speaker 3: NFL and functioning at a high level. Those were two
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  Speaker 3: guys that were Group of four and one double a program,
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  Speaker 3: guys that went to the Big twelve and had huge
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  Speaker 3: numbers with rock Obec. So if I'm going to choose
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  Speaker 3: between them, and again I don't think that there's a
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  Speaker 3: wrong choice. I think I'm going to probably go the
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  Speaker 3: direction of a guy that had major production at may
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  Speaker 3: be a slightly lower level.
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  Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how this shapes that lower level
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  Speaker 2: moving forward, because I think that's going to be the
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  Speaker 2: answer from a lot of people right now, especially with
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  Speaker 2: what Indiana did using a lot of Jmutis, transfers and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: It's already become a little bit of this, but I
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  Speaker 2: wonder how much more of a I guess Developmental League,
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  Speaker 2: the Mount West Conference, and the Conference USA type situation
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  Speaker 2: becomes as we move forward, adjusting to the demands of
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  Speaker 2: the Power for and Power five.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting because we worried about this
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  Speaker 3: a few years ago with one Double A football, the
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  Speaker 3: big skies of the world in places like that, Oh
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  Speaker 3: my gosh, they're going to become, you know, the feeding
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  Speaker 3: and feeding grounds for these big schools. Well, to your point,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of Group of five schools now have kind
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  Speaker 3: of become that. But but that's okay, Sean, because you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna get you know, we talked a lot about the
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  Speaker 3: transfers from Utah that went with with Kyle Whittingham to Michigan. Well,
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  Speaker 3: there were a number of guys that left Utah's program
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  Speaker 3: that were recruited to Utah, but they just couldn't find
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  Speaker 3: their footing from a playing time standpoint. So they've trans
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  Speaker 3: you know, they've gone back the other way and they're
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  Speaker 3: now at Group of five or one Double A school.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that cuts both ways. Yeah, these group
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  Speaker 3: of five schools are gonna lose high end talent, but
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  Speaker 3: they're also going to grab guys that were maybe above
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  Speaker 3: their pay grade in the recruiting cycle and bring them
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  Speaker 3: back to the group of five level. So I think
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  Speaker 3: there's a little bit of you know, a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of movement both ways.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't worry, we were state. For every Jack Kelly
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  Speaker 2: you lose, there's a Sean O'Connell coming your way from Utah.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna be just fine. It all comes out, Samesis. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk a little running utes basketball here Huntsman Center
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  Speaker 2: hosting Utah versus Oklahoma State. The UT's looking again for
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  Speaker 2: a big twelve win here. This is a doable one.
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  Speaker 2: This is a winnable game. What do you need to
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  Speaker 2: see from Alex Jensen's lineup in order to grab another
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  Speaker 2: big twelve win.
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  Speaker 3: Most of it's on the defensive end, Sean, these are
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  Speaker 3: two teams that love to run up and down the floor.
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma State and Utah love to run up and down
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  Speaker 3: the floor. And if you look at some of the
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  Speaker 3: advanced numbers and the not so advanced numbers, yeah, they
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  Speaker 3: love to run up and down the floor. But they
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  Speaker 3: love to run the one end of the floor much
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  Speaker 3: more than they love to run to the other end
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  Speaker 3: of the floor, if you know what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: So these are two teams that are really good offensively.
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  Speaker 3: Both these teams need to be a little bit better defensively.
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  Speaker 3: I've talked to Alex a few times that they know
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  Speaker 3: what it is. I mean, they've just they've got to
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  Speaker 3: get a little bit better on the defensive end. They've
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  Speaker 3: improved in some areas, like rebounding in some of those areas,
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  Speaker 3: didn't turn the ball over at a high level even
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  Speaker 3: last weekend down in Provo. But you know, you're not
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  Speaker 3: going to win in a league like the Big twelve
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  Speaker 3: or any big power league just trying to go out
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  Speaker 3: and outscore and outrun and gun somebody. I know that
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  Speaker 3: sounds goofy because you've got to outscore them to win,
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  Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, you can't just live
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  Speaker 3: on the offensive end that those days are just gone.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to be able to guard a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: So I think Alex is going to implore his guys
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  Speaker 3: to be a little bit better guarding the basketball. And
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  Speaker 3: this Oklahoma State team presents challenges because they pretty much
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  Speaker 3: play with four guards and a big guy and their
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  Speaker 3: four guards can all shoot it and they love to
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  Speaker 3: push the pace, so I you know in Utah loves
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  Speaker 3: to do the same thing too. So I would tell
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  Speaker 3: people that are listening right now, come out tomorrow's four
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  Speaker 3: o'clock game tomorrow at the Huntsman Center. Sean Mooney and
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  Speaker 3: I will have the call pregame beginning at three thirty.
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  Speaker 3: But the tempo and the pace of tomorrow's game between
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  Speaker 3: the US and in Oak State should be pretty fun.
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  Speaker 2: I won't have a chance to talk with you before then.
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  Speaker 2: They take on Arizona State as well, again another winnable game,
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  Speaker 2: and you circle some of these and you highlight them
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  Speaker 2: and say, that's an opportunity for you to stack that
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  Speaker 2: winning experience. Yes, it's great to play in the Big
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  Speaker 2: Twelve Conference and to go up against the league competition
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  Speaker 2: that you're going to see against Kansas and Houston, but
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  Speaker 2: we're all here to see some wins. And Arizona State
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  Speaker 2: is a winnable game and they got one of the
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  Speaker 2: more fiery coaches in the league, so that's always fun
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  Speaker 2: to watch. But I guess kind of the same thing
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  Speaker 2: with Oklahoma State and with Arizona State. If you can
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  Speaker 2: put a too little, you know, win win after win together,
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  Speaker 2: it changes your outlook, It changes your confidence, changes a
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  Speaker 2: little bit momentum. I don't know if it gets you
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  Speaker 2: wins over Kansas or Houston after that, but the outlook
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  Speaker 2: on the season becomes different. If you're beating the teams
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  Speaker 2: on your level in the Big Twelve.
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  Speaker 3: If that makes sense, well that's good, and you had
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  Speaker 3: a It doesn't matter what lead you're in, Sean, You've
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  Speaker 3: got to protect your home floor and winning the As
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned, nothing's a given in the Big Twelve. There's
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  Speaker 3: no given Oklahoma State or Arizona State or wins by
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  Speaker 3: any means. But these are teams that are kind of
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  Speaker 3: you in your realm, in the hierarchy of the conference
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  Speaker 3: right now, good but maybe not great teams. So you've
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  Speaker 3: got to protect your home floor. In Arizona State, it's
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  Speaker 3: a lot the same that Utah, and it also Oklahoma State.
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  Speaker 3: Bobby Hurley teams love to run up and down the floor.
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  Speaker 3: Now they'll probably guard you a little bit more, at
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  Speaker 3: least they will traditionally than say Oklahoma State might. But again,
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  Speaker 3: these are kind of wide open type games and you're
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  Speaker 3: playing them at the Huntsman Center, and you've got a
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  Speaker 3: little altitude in your back pocket. And again, before you
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  Speaker 3: can look for those big breakthroughs against the Kansases or
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  Speaker 3: the Houstons or the Iowa States of the world, it's
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  Speaker 3: the old you got to walk before you can run.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, it's not the same in college basketball.
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  Speaker 3: You can't pull those upsets, because you absolutely can, and
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  Speaker 3: Utah's got firepower enough on the offensive end to do it.
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  Speaker 3: But like you said, you stack those, stack those smaller wins,
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, stack one or two or three
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  Speaker 3: of those, and then you start feeling good about yourself.
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  Speaker 3: And then you've got a little bit of confidence. And
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  Speaker 3: then when you go on the road to play a
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  Speaker 3: team like a Kansas in a week, or you go
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  Speaker 3: on the road to play a school like Iowa State,
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  Speaker 3: or you bring Houston into the Huntsman Center, you feel
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  Speaker 3: a little bit better about yourself. So there are improvements.
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  Speaker 3: For those that have watched this team play over twenty
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  Speaker 3: games this year, you've seen some areas I mentioned, the turnovers,
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned, the playing hard you know I mentioned also
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  Speaker 3: the rebounding has gotten better mostly in a lot of
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  Speaker 3: these games. Those things are coming, but again on the
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  Speaker 3: defense to end is where Alex Jensen will tell you
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  Speaker 3: they've got to make their most improvement. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be in Dubai when you join the show next Friday,
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  Speaker 2: So I want your thoughts on who wins this super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl coming up next weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's probably the Seattle Seahawks. I know that
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  Speaker 3: hurts your NFC West loving heart, but they're really, really good.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing I like about New England is Mike
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  Speaker 3: Rabel is a really good coach and I think the
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  Speaker 3: Patriots defense is really good. And Rabel's one of those
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  Speaker 3: guys he's so detail oriented. Maybe somehow, some way he
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  Speaker 3: finds that edge. I'm still not a complete believer in
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  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold. I know he's played great, and it's this postseason.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen him have some pretty awful games this year too.
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  Speaker 3: But if Rabel can find a way and that Patriots
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  Speaker 3: defense is pretty darn good's that's he's going to have
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  Speaker 3: to make it a rock fight. Because if this game's
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  Speaker 3: not a rock fight, if it's a wide open game,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think the Patriots could beat Seattle. Plus Seattle's
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  Speaker 3: come people playing in that building they played in there
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  Speaker 3: earlier this year. I just I like Seattle in this game.
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  Speaker 3: If it's going to be a Patriots game, it's going
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  Speaker 3: to have to be a low scoring, ugly kind of
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  Speaker 3: a rock fight. But I'm leaning toward the Seahawks. I
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  Speaker 3: think Mike McDonald's done an unbelievable job of a couple
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  Speaker 3: of seasons up there.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully the Seahawks are practicing on the Niners practice field
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  Speaker 2: to get ready for the game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, then there was that part of the open too.
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  Speaker 3: What's whether they practicing next to a nuclear power planned
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  Speaker 3: or under a house of power lines? What's the deal?
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  Speaker 2: Allegedly, it's worse than that. It's that electrical substation that
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  Speaker 2: the electromagnetic field is causing the collagen in their tissues
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  Speaker 2: to break down and make them more susceptible to injury.
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  Speaker 2: Bill it's full on conspiracy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean you use whatever you need to use,
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  Speaker 3: Sean to justify why the Niners have they been practicing
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  Speaker 3: there for years? I mean when the Chiefs meet them
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  Speaker 3: not once but twice in the Super Bowl, was that
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  Speaker 3: was that a reason? Yeah? It is.
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  Speaker 2: I'm blaming I'm blaming every forty nine Ers loss on this.
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  Speaker 2: Actually they won they haven't won the Super Bowl since
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  Speaker 2: what ninety four? I think that's probably when that practice
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  Speaker 2: field was starting to be used.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I still don't understand why they're in Santa Clara
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  Speaker 3: and they're called the San Francisco forty nine ers. What
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  Speaker 3: are they like forty miles from downtown.
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  Speaker 2: It takes so long too, and it's just like it's
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  Speaker 2: like the Salt Lake City Jazz playing in Lehigh.
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  Speaker 3: It's terrible. Oh it's not even Lehigh. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: know what, the traffic out there. They might as well
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  Speaker 3: be the San Jose Niners instead of the San Francisco
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  Speaker 3: forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 2: It is a lot closer to San Jose. Now you
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  Speaker 2: got me all fired up, Bill, I know I got
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