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5 Things We Learned From Ryan Day, Jim Knowles, and Will Howard · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: Morning for Wednesday, August twenty eighth. I'm your host, Tom Moore.
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  Speaker 1: The Akron game in three days. The game begets to
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  Speaker 1: Michigan in ninety four days. Yes, it is, in fact
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  Speaker 1: an Ohio State football game. Week had our traditional Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Day press conference.
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  Speaker 2: Get a chance to talk to Ryan Day. I have
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  Speaker 2: State defensive coord uttered Jim.
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  Speaker 1: Knowles, and New Ohio State started quarterback Will Howard today
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  Speaker 1: joined by Tony gerderm Bucky Huddle dot Com. Tony, I'm
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  Speaker 1: We're talking bust Smrow morning, and instead of talking Michigan
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  Speaker 1: talk about gimmicks. We're here to talk about Ohio State football,
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  Speaker 1: and we're here to talk about some of the things
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  Speaker 1: we learned talking to Ryan Day a little bit ago,
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  Speaker 1: and let's start with it was the first question of
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, the first question of the interview session. You know,
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  Speaker 1: normally it's Ryan, are you ready to tell us who
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  Speaker 1: the starting quarterback is? That question has already been answered,
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  Speaker 1: So in this case, it was Ryan, are you ready
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  Speaker 1: to tell us who the starting right guard is?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Of all places, So yeah, that's where it went, and
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  Speaker 4: Taker Shabala will get the start.
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  Speaker 3: He has earned that.
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  Speaker 4: They do expect to roll some guys in there, but
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  Speaker 4: he said Taker has been just consistent throughout, consistently available
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  Speaker 4: and then playing consistently well.
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  Speaker 2: So the best available, best ability is.
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  Speaker 3: Availability, and that's what he's been.
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  Speaker 4: So they're not just we're here's here's what we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: throw your bow, and like he's earned this spot.
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  Speaker 3: He will obviously play.
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  Speaker 4: He'll start the game, but I would expect Carson Tinsman,
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  Speaker 4: if he's good to go, he will also play at times.
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  Speaker 4: And they're gonna roll some guys in there. You'll see
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  Speaker 4: look Montgomery at some point. They're just gonna get in
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  Speaker 4: who they can and they want to play depth where
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  Speaker 4: they can. But you're never gonna have a coach tell
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  Speaker 4: you like, well, we want this guy in the second quarter,
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  Speaker 4: we want this guy in the third quarter, because it's
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  Speaker 4: always well, you know, you gotta see how goes.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: They they'll they'll talk about it internally when they want
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  Speaker 4: to get guys in, and we could talk about the
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  Speaker 4: Devin Brown situation when they'd like to get him in,
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  Speaker 4: but also the main point is winning the game. And
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  Speaker 4: even talking to Jim Knowles, they're like, asked, would fourteen
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  Speaker 4: oh be enough for you to put in some backups
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  Speaker 4: of Safety's like, nope, still first teamers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's fourteen nothing in the second quarter was
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  Speaker 1: sort of the hypothetical that got thrown out to him,
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  Speaker 1: and he's Nope, they are not taking anything for granted.
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  Speaker 2: It is achron Yes, they're not taking anything for granted.
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  Speaker 4: And that's safety we're not talking about like right, yeah, yah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: They're gonna be a clear delineation that safe.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And there's also ran they talked about rolling guys in
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, well, what does that really mean?
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  Speaker 1: Does that mean you're gonna see Carson Hinsman with the
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  Speaker 1: ones on drive three of the game, or does that
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  Speaker 1: mean that you're gonna see the twos and you might
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  Speaker 1: see the threes during the course of the game. But
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  Speaker 1: both of those could be rolling. And it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: everyone was getting one question, so you don't want to Brian,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to ask about something else. But when
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  Speaker 1: you mean rolling, you say, what does that actually mean?
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  Speaker 1: I assume we may see some Carson hintsman with the ones.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps.
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  Speaker 1: I think you might see the second team offensive line
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  Speaker 1: at some point late in the first half, possibly at
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  Speaker 1: least early in the second half. But we will see
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  Speaker 1: what that all means. The other the next position before
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  Speaker 1: we do get.
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  Speaker 2: To the backup quarterback spot and the plan there.
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  Speaker 1: Dylan talking about the other starting positional battle that was
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  Speaker 1: at least sort of open. This is another one where
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  Speaker 1: we sort of felt like we kind of got the
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  Speaker 1: answer a week ago.
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  Speaker 2: We definitely got the answer today.
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  Speaker 1: Tony Rda, who is the starting linebacker at the will
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  Speaker 1: linebacker position for the twenty twenty four Ohio State Buckeye That.
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  Speaker 4: Will be Sonny Styles and Ryan d told told us
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  Speaker 4: last week that Sonny was the leader in the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 4: He's done everything and that they could ask and he's
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  Speaker 4: doing it well. So he will get the start, and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we kind of knew that something bad would have had
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  Speaker 4: to have happened for Sonny over this past week for
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  Speaker 4: him to lose that it's a very good sign because
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  Speaker 4: that's what he's always been projected at, as this is
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  Speaker 4: the spot that he's maybe always meant to play, and
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  Speaker 4: the fact that he has stepped in and knows the
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  Speaker 4: defense as he does is playing well, he's a very
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  Speaker 4: good sign. Conceivably, maybe not conceivably, just should be a
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  Speaker 4: step up from the.
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  Speaker 3: Play last year and the play they've gotten recently.
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  Speaker 1: And of course everyone always wants to know what's going
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  Speaker 1: on with Sunny Styles for five star recruit local player.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone loves him, so Senny Styles is starting. That truly
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  Speaker 1: makes everyone happy, except for the people who always ask
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  Speaker 1: about c. J.
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  Speaker 2: Hicks, who is presumably not starting.
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  Speaker 1: He is also someone who, much like in the Carson
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  Speaker 1: Hinsman conversation, talked about rolling guys there as well, you're
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna see I would bet you see CJ.
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  Speaker 2: Hicks in the first half on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: And when Jim Knowles talked about it, he said he
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  Speaker 4: considered CJ.
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  Speaker 3: Hicks a co starter. Like he said he has three starters.
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  Speaker 4: And then he also said something that is different than
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  Speaker 4: what he told me a week or two ago when
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  Speaker 4: I asked him if Sonny or CJ. Hicks could play
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  Speaker 4: that mike and play together and be that. And when
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  Speaker 4: the question was posed in terms of Sonny being able
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  Speaker 4: to play that mike today, he had no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: Like he's just like, yes, yeah, that's he can do that.
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  Speaker 4: He's really impressed them with the grasp of everything and
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  Speaker 4: everything they've gone given to him has been able to do.
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  Speaker 3: So there could be situations.
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  Speaker 4: Where Cody goes out, Cody Simon goes out, and Sunny
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  Speaker 4: steps in at mike, so they can bring CJ.
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  Speaker 3: Hickson.
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  Speaker 4: Sonny can play either spot. Cody Simon, we know can
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  Speaker 4: play either spot. So Knowles did then at some point
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  Speaker 4: say he envisions the same number of snaps for those three.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe this week, we'll see how that goes. That's always
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  Speaker 4: easier to say than do in terms of just hitting
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  Speaker 4: that sweet spot of.
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  Speaker 2: The numbers right.
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  Speaker 1: And it's also easy to look at things on Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: and say, well, certainly they're going to score touchdowns on
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  Speaker 1: their first four drives and we'll be up twenty eight.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing. Early in the second quarter, and everything's going.
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  Speaker 1: To go great and nothing is going to go wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and there won't be a bad snap, and there won't
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  Speaker 1: be a anyone who falls down, and there won't be
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  Speaker 1: a missed extra point and whatever else. And then on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: how often do we see week zero none of the
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  Speaker 1: big favorites covered, not a one, And so there's always
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of rust, a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of this, a little bit of that. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what that all looks like on Saturday. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: it is easy to say right now. Let's move on
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  Speaker 1: now to the next positional question, which was the backup
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  Speaker 1: quarterback spot. We now have officially the who is the
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  Speaker 1: number two quarterback entering Week one?
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  Speaker 2: Answered? And what is the plan for him?
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  Speaker 4: Tony Urdam, Yeah, Devin Brown, and the plan is always
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  Speaker 4: to play her backup in games like this, But we've
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  Speaker 4: also seen plans where I want to get him in
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  Speaker 4: the third series. I want to get him in at
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  Speaker 4: this point in the second quarter. Ryan Day said, he
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  Speaker 4: and Chip Kelly have talked about that, but that is
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  Speaker 4: not in the plans right now. It may they may
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  Speaker 4: be part of the plans, but right now they're just
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  Speaker 4: going to play until it's time to bring in somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: So well, Howard has had, has gotten his day's work,
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  Speaker 4: he's punched his card, and now it's time for Devin Browns.
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  Speaker 4: So they're not going to try at this point, They're
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  Speaker 4: not gonna try to force him in because I do
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  Speaker 4: think you want this is always the issue you bring
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  Speaker 4: in the second guy and the momentum from the first
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  Speaker 4: guy had is completely out the window and you've got
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  Speaker 4: to rebuild it.
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  Speaker 3: So they don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they want to ruin any kind of momentum,
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  Speaker 4: especially this being Will.
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  Speaker 3: Howard's first real game in this ye.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to discredit the Spring game, but this
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  Speaker 4: is gonna be a different animal for him, and if
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  Speaker 4: he has any momentum, you certainly don't want to stop that.
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  Speaker 3: And if he doesn't have momentum, you want him to
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  Speaker 3: be able to build it.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, We'll get to Will Howard's new job title
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  Speaker 1: in a minute, but since you mentioned Will Howard in
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  Speaker 1: the spring game, let's talk about Will Howard.
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  Speaker 2: In the spring game. He talked about, you know, sort
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  Speaker 2: of the welcome.
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  Speaker 1: To Ohio State kind of moments that he has had
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  Speaker 1: where this is not someone who is coming from Slippery
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  Speaker 1: Rock where he's he's played, and it's you know, three
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  Speaker 1: pairs of parents in the stands.
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  Speaker 2: And someone who got lost on the way down to
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  Speaker 2: the dairy Queen.
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  Speaker 1: It is you know, Kansas State is a big time
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  Speaker 1: college football program, but also it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the things that really drove that home
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  Speaker 1: for Will Howard was going to the spring game at
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  Speaker 1: Ohio Stadium this year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you still mentioned like the eighty two
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  Speaker 4: thousand in attendance, but I like the fact that he's
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  Speaker 4: talking to his teammates before this at some point or
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  Speaker 4: in this timeframe, and you've got all these transfers coming
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  Speaker 4: in and like, what was your spring game? Like, you know, Will,
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  Speaker 4: what was your spring game? Like He's like, my spring
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  Speaker 4: game was practice fifteen. There was no spring game. And
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  Speaker 4: we've seen that at other places as well, but it's
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  Speaker 4: completely different animal at at Ohio State. And so something
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  Speaker 4: that said he's most looking forward to is just running
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  Speaker 4: out of the tunnel to a packed crowd. And I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to be like, just so you know, I know
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  Speaker 4: the coaches tell you one hundred and ten thousand by
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  Speaker 4: the time you've run out of that tunnel maybe for
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  Speaker 4: the last time when it's actually time to go play,
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  Speaker 4: with what fifteen minutes before kickoff or whatever, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: expecting one hundred and ten thousand one. It's like five
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  Speaker 4: thousand more than they can actually get in there. But also,
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  Speaker 4: this is Akron and it is a season opener. But
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  Speaker 4: maybe I'm maybe I'm not giving the fans enough credit
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  Speaker 4: that they will be in their seats and ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: It's the season opener, so I'm sure not everyone will
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  Speaker 1: have remembered to put their tickets in their Apple wallet
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  Speaker 1: on their phone or whatever. And there's always you know,
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  Speaker 1: the first game hiccups where oh everyone has forgotten how
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  Speaker 1: to go through the metal detectors or whatever. So yes,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, if you are attending the game, go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and take a moment right now and put your tickets
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  Speaker 1: and your parking pass in your Apple wallet or whatever
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  Speaker 1: your Google equivalent of that is.
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  Speaker 3: On the video.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hit the thumb up on the video before
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  Speaker 2: you do.
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  Speaker 1: That, put before you believe, before you waste your time
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  Speaker 1: paid somebody forget their tickets.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but then that's your phone, because you're the
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  Speaker 2: one I.
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  Speaker 3: At least thumbs up.
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  Speaker 2: It's all. All that matters. Bos one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that matters.
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  Speaker 1: One of the other things that was kind of a
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  Speaker 1: big conversation was well Howard's new job title.
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  Speaker 2: We knew he was the starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Well Howard also the run game coordinator at a high
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  Speaker 1: state and that in the past has, I think, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna put this as gently as possible, been one of
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  Speaker 1: those phony ballogny job title things that they give you, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're the run game corner, you're the passing game coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: you're the gatorade coordinator, that you put on someone and say, well,
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  Speaker 1: now it's a new job, so now we have to
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  Speaker 1: give him a raise this And though you know that
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  Speaker 1: is not normally something that is that's normally a coaching job,
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  Speaker 1: not a quarterback job. So what does it mean that
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  Speaker 1: Will Howard is now the run game coordinator for Ohistate.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And as Ryan Day said, well, there are just
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  Speaker 4: so many decisions and choices made with each play.
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  Speaker 3: And that's before the snap, that's after the snap.
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  Speaker 4: And like Ryan Day said, rarely do they just give
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  Speaker 4: them one play and that's it, like here, go run
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  Speaker 4: this and then do it because players will have I think,
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  Speaker 4: as Will Howard said, they a run play can go
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  Speaker 4: in three different directions, you know, just depending on how
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  Speaker 4: whether he holds it, whether you know, handed off, in
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  Speaker 4: which direction you want to want it to go. But
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  Speaker 4: like that kind of decision making, you are coordinating where
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  Speaker 4: the ball is gonna go based on what the defense does.
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  Speaker 3: You know you're gonna want to make the right reads.
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  Speaker 4: But you are the one is he said, as Will
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  Speaker 4: Howard said, I'm the guy with the chalk.
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  Speaker 3: I have the chalk last.
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  Speaker 4: So he's he does the ultimate decision making there in
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  Speaker 4: the diagramming. So that's that's where that comes in. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: every play will have three, three different options you've got.
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  Speaker 1: Can you tell which beloved member of the Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: beat is near us? Sorry, it's okay, it's okay, So
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  Speaker 1: sorry my name.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, before you go, just got three quickies. Always great
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  Speaker 1: to have a guest shot from to May. Oh, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: We'll sure see you again on Saturday. Now I've completely
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  Speaker 1: derailed everything.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, that should have been. That's that's the mowing version of.
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  Speaker 2: Morning is.
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  Speaker 4: The Vernon game coordinator just a bunch of different not
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  Speaker 4: a bunch like two to three options on every single play,
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  Speaker 4: and he has to make sure that he is getting
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  Speaker 4: them out of bad plays, probably most importantly making sure
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  Speaker 4: no bad place happened, and then making the correct decision
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  Speaker 4: pre snap and then post snap in terms of reading
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  Speaker 4: that defensive end where if the defensive end is crashing down,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it to the running back or you know, however,
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  Speaker 4: whichever the decision is in there. So just the different
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  Speaker 4: options and he's handled all of that well according according
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  Speaker 4: to Ryan Day. But as we know, the game is
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  Speaker 4: always the ultimate tell and.
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  Speaker 3: All of this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Ryan Day got a chance to see Tim. Tim,
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  Speaker 1: who recent podcast guests to May, asked Ryan Day a
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  Speaker 1: couple of things. One of them was whether he had
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  Speaker 1: watched the Connor Science documentary. That was one of a
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  Speaker 1: three part question, and Ryan Day's exact quote was no, period,
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  Speaker 1: and then.
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  Speaker 2: What was the next part of the question, and it
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  Speaker 2: was you move on with that.
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  Speaker 3: It was like it was a three part question.
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  Speaker 4: The first part was the Netflix thing, and then and
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  Speaker 4: then there was like a minute, full minute of asking
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  Speaker 4: the next two questions. And then so when it was
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  Speaker 4: time for Ryan Day to answer the first thing, he
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  Speaker 4: says no, and then what was the second question?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was interesting. That was something he did not watch.
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  Speaker 1: And he also did not apparently watch the Florida State
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  Speaker 1: game over a little last weekend. That was a topic
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  Speaker 1: that you know, hey number ten got upset? Is that
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  Speaker 1: something you're using to sort of, you know, remind your team, Hey,
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: you got to take things seriously, he did not watch
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: the Florida game. I thought that was interesting on the
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: last weekend for other stuff, He's also got other stuff
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: to do, like this.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Is the last Saturday. Yeah, that he's going to be
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: free for a while.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: So, and he was also a skating he was also
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: that's that's only something that I do. I met I
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: met skateringks this time of your plenty, and I can
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: assure you there are not that many other people there
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: this time of year. The another thing that was he
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: was asked about the had he used the fact that
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Akron beat Ohio State one hundred and thirty years ago
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: as motivation. Also A know, there a lot of a
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: lot of short but very telling answers from Randa to.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: I guess what is what is telling about that time
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: that he does not respect the rivalry.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: I I mean, like I think I could not be.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: More put off by you mentioning this like, how dare you, sir?
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Speaking of teams that play some some play each other sometimes,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: but would not traditionally be considered a rivalry. Will Howard
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: talked about the fact that he grew up in Big
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Ten Country, grew up I think he I think he
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: said sadly or unfortunately or something like that as a
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Penn State fan now said he is on the right
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: right side, right side, the right side.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Of that, which is Is that a Michigan thing too.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Mister Brightside is? But please, mister bright Side is my
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: father call me the Killers. Let's see what else? Did
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: we have any any other notable things? And I always
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: title these shows something like five things we learned from Ryandad.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: We have hit the five things that I had in
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: my head to ask about that we learned from Ryan Dai.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Was there anything else that you had that really stood
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: out before we get into questions from the viewers?
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: I did, like Jim Mills, and he's talked about this
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: before the interview process with recruiting Caleb Downs and treating
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: it like you have to be altra prepared for this.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: This isn't something where you're lobster tails and you know
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: things like that.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: This is interview process.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: No, we're gonna we're gonna show you this defense. And
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: he equated it to when he interviewed with Yeah with
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: my Gunny from the Oklahoma State job, where he flies in,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: sits down for three hours. He's got ten people around him,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: he's showing them what he'd do with the defense, and
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: this serious interview process. Never see campus. Then he flies
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: back out. They flew from Columbus obviously to Georgia to
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: talkbo with Calee downs three hours, got the laptop out,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: showed him everything that they had planned for him in
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: this defense, and then he flew back out and just
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: very boom boom boom. And then I did ask him,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: you know, he said, that's like a game day, like,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: so you were you aggressive that day or was it
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Ben the dope break? And it was it was very
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: aggressive in terms of this is what we've got planned
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: for you, this is how we see you.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: And clearly it didn't hurt.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Didn't hurt yea. They won that game. So that's uh,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: that is something that I'm sure they're quite happy about.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: I also liked the discussion of the defense O High
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: State could have won the Cotton Bowl last year.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: If the defense doesn't give up any points.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: That was, which is technically true. Yes, I could have
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: won three nothing and turned into one of.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Those the classics.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, that was.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: That was the word I was kind of groping for there.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, what's a synonym for classics?
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: That means bad and just old? Uh, And it's a classic?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, It's like, it's like, listen, we're not getting
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: here in the middle of family dynamics on this show.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: So it's it's like the.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Like when I was growing up, my parents had probably
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: like a nineteen eighty three Buick Skylark.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: It's like, is that a classic? Like, well, it's old?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: This is yeah, that game if they had won three
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: nothing would have been the nineteen eighty three the Cotton
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Bowl presented by the nineteen eighty three Buick Skylark.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Kevin, do we have any questions.
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: Aaron Taylor, is Howard going to play out of the gun?
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: And have there been any issues with low snaps?
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: So?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Is Will Howard going to play out of the shotgun?
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: And have there been any issues with low snaps?
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Why they're gonna be out of the gun, They're gonna
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: be under center too, because they've been doing that a
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: couple of years. No, no major issues, no ongoing issues
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: with the snaps, Like, that's not anything that has been
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: discussed and when we know, we saw plenty of practices
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: and it was not an issue through any of that.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Right, And you know, if there's one at some point,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: do not immediately, you know, crack each other's heads open
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and feast on the goo in side then like you're
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: going to have a bad snap occasionally. If that was
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: an ongoing problem, they have other guys on the roster.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Carson Hinsman was literally the starting center last year. If
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: that was an ongoing problem, they have other options. The
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: fact that car that seth maclachlin has been pretty much
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: clear cut the starting center for the entirety of fall
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: camp tells me that is not something they're concerned about.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: So don't go looking for something to worry about going
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: into the game. And if it happens once, don't immediately
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: try and make it a bigger deal than it is.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it happens, yeah, Yeah.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: It is not something that is unique to one person.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: It is that happens all the time in college football.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Who starts at left board if Donovan Jackson.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Is hell, well, that's an interesting thing because who starts
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: left guard?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: If Donovan Jackson has held out?
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Donovan Jackson we talked with him last week, but he
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: would not like somebody asked him, you know, are you.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Gonna be good to go? He's like, I don't know
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about. So and it never got brought
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: up today.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: So but if he doesn't go, you know, Austin Seerveld
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: has been playing both guard and tackle. I wonder if
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: he's been playing too much tackle to be the next
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: guard in so he would just be Carson Hinsman.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I assume, well, yeah, that the question is, but how
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: much is it?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I know who, I know who the backup left guard is.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: It's it's Austin Seerveeld. Do they go with the backup
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: left guard or do they go with the third guard,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: which is probably Carson Hinsman. And we'll all find out
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: together on Saturday.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I do think they're more they're better equipped
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: to handle the third guard this year than they were
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, by one hundred million miles.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, they're better equipped at pretty much every position on
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the offensive line right now than they were a year ago.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: T Roger Smith.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: What are you guys expecting in terms of improvement from
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: the Akron game to Michigan From Will Howard?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: So what are we expecting in terms of improvement from
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the Akron game to Michigan From Will Howard? I'm certainly
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: expecting improvement based on the trajectory from this spring until now.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: The learning curve.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: You know, he came to Ohio State with a bunch
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: of I'm going to say institutional knowledge, which is not
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: exactly the right word because it's a different institution now
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: than he was before. But he has just sort of
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: accumulated knowledge, let's say, from being a multi year starter
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: at Kansas State and having just played a bunch of
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: college football. That's something that NFL teams look at. How
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: many snaps have you played, how many games have you played,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: how many games have you started?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Because that stuff matters. He checks all those boxes.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: He has certainly learned the old House offense and all
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the different pieces of the Ohio State offense since then.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: But I'm certainly continue expecting him to continue because he
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: made mechanical adjustments over the summer in addition to picking
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: up all the other all the other kind of more
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: between the ears kinds of pieces of the offense. If
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: he's able to pick all that stuff up, I'm expecting
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: him to continue to improve on a lot of those areas.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: You know, what does he look like? I guess the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: question is what does he look like? How are we
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: grading him for the Akron game? Is it that he
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: has he completed sixty five percent of his passes against
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Akron And even though Michigan's a far better defense, he's
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: in the same realm when he plays Michigan. You know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's our grading scale here.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think because I asked Brian, Dad, what
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: do you want to see? Like, what do you want
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: to see for Will? What would be meet the expectations?
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And he talked just a lot about the operational aspect
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: of things this week is getting getting things done on time,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: getting the right reads. And then I think as you
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: go through the season, you now that's fine, but now
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: make some plays as well, and you be one of
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: the best players in the country. But you don't have
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: to like I'm going through in terms of the run
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: game coordinator and the decision making. Ryan Day said he
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: needs to be the best in the country at that
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: and then like within the next sentence, he's like, doesn't
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: need to be extraordinary though, Like that's what he's said,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: you know, do the routine things routinely. That's what they
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: said about tom ac Cord. You don't need to be extraordinary,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: just use the guys around you. But they want him
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: to be the best in the country yet running the offense.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: But you don't have to be extraordinary.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think that's kind of what we've been
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: saying about about Will Howard all season, which is an
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: not all season all year. He doesn't have to win
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy for them to win the national championship.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: He just has to be good, solid, efficient, all the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: really boring words. The coaches will love to say that.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Fans go, well, what about will he be explosive? Will
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: he be dynamic? Will he be the greatest playmaker?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: It's like they don't. They don't need that.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: They need him to be solid. There's plenty of other
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: guys around him that are going to be playmakers. One
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: of the things Howard talked about is open at Ohio State,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: good means something different than it did in other places.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: He was very very careful, very very careful to say, listen,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to disrespect anyone I've ever played with before.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I played with great players, and.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: These are high level power five guys he played with before.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: This is not someone who again has jumped up from
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: slippery Rock. But being open at Ohio State means something
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: different than it does in a lot of other places.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Well, and he said, a lot of that is because
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: they teach it that way here and because then they
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: have the athletes to follow through. And he said, Chip
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Kelly Ryan Diday tell him, in a one on one situation,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: receivers open, they're going to do something that will make
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: throw the ball. They will, whether it's backshoulder or whatever.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: You put it in a position for them to catch it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: And that's they consider that open. Whereas Kansas State it's
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: taught a little bit more, a little differently and maybe
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: a little more conservatively, where open means well, we would
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: consider open, right, open just means here, it just means
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: it's one on one, go ahead, you know, basically that
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: feel free to utilize the five star receivers that we
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: have made available to you.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Well, when you think about open, I go back to
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: like the two thousand and five season where Ohio State
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: played Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl and Ted Ginn runs.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a streak or an
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: out and up, but just run, just blast past the corner.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the corner was sitting on something
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: or whatever. He's ten yards fifteen yards behind the corner.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Like that's what you think of as Oh, boy, that
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: guy's open. Jeremiah Smith only has one guy on.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Him that's open.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: That's that's what And we have seen that over the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: course of the spring and even in fall camp when
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: we got to watch. It's not just oh, this is
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the mindset. It's like, no, this is actually how it is.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: If he's even he's leaving. If the number of people
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: out there for the other team is even with a
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: number of people out there for Ohio State, they are
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: probably going to be leaving them.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: And think about the social media videos that you've seen
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: that you guys have seen showing receivers making catches. You
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: don't see an awful lot of video of them running
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: past a defense open downfield. It's all being fought for
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: and they're coming up with catches with corners right there
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: with them. So there's not a lot of freedom of
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: movement that you can just wait for them to get open.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: There's no waiting. And as Will Howard said, it's the
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: same thing in the NFL.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: The windows are very tiny. The athletes are very good.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: You give your guy an opportunity to make the catch,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: because if you're waiting for them to get open, you're
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: gonna be waiting forever. You're gonna be sacked by that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Right and especially against these corners, you're not how many
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: how many guys do you think have been running wide
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: open against these corners all fall? Not a whole heck
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: of a lot when we've seen it, Probably not a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot you're going to see over
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the course of this season. So the windows are small
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: because that's as big as the window. If you're waiting
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: for a bigger window, it may never open. So you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: got to take advantage of what you got.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Next up, Rick, As I.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: Went back and watched the spring game, I thought Josh
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: did a really good job at right guard, even though
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: he's always been projected as a center.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Only just a random thought I wanted to post.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: So Ricks thinking that Josh Padia looked good at right
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: guard during the spring game, even though he's been projected
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: as a center. I have will confess that I have
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: not gone back and rewatched the OSU spring game recently,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: but Trush Patty is someone who feels like he is
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: sort of in that next He's not going to be
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: a starter this year, but he might be in that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: next group of guys in there. You're probably gonna see
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: him somewhere on Saturday during the second half of the game.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: They don't need him to be great this year. They
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: just need him to continue to progress.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And it sometimes sometimes with guys you hear like, yeah,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: it's just not happening. It feels like it is happening there.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: It's a real gradual process with offensive lineman.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: But if you like it is happening, yeah, Look Montgomery,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Josh Padilla, Austin Seerveld, you're hearing them. And I saw Sapadia,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Josh Padilla, Ed Garden in fall camp too, because like
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: they're really I think at least last time we saw them,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: they're trying to make Luke that that center, that backup
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: should they need it. So I wonder if Padilla then
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: next year is stays at guard, but then is also
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: the backup center because they did recruit him to play center,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: but the interior is all interchangeable. So yeah, but you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: get thought, well, we'll see what happens there. But there
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: he's not been relegated to also.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: No, no, he's he's someone who's in that conversation. And
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: this is an offensive line that has so many more
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: capable players than they did a year ago or fifteen
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: months ago. Fifteen months ago, it was just shy of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: outright panic in here over the state of the offensive line.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: It is absolutely not that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Right now feels like the top the ones, they feel
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: pretty good about. The two they're coming along. I don't
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: know how many of those guys would really be classified
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: as game ready right now. Game ready basically means you
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: can throw them in and they're gonna start, and there's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: gonna be absolutely new drop off. How many of those
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: guys are gonna be game ready twelve.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Months from now feels like it could be a pretty
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: comfortable number.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Aaron Taylor, will Chip want to run more than Ryan Day.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Will Chip wants to run more than Ryan Day as well.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day is sort of known as a quarterback guru,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and Chip Chip Kelly is known as more of a
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you know, run first kind of guy. His offenses have
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: always been kind of a little more run first, So
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say yes, I think that's probably And
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that's what makes them such a good combination is Ryan
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Day in the passing game, it's just so good about
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: scheming that stuff up. Chip Kelly's kind of that way
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: in the run game. We also did find out today
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: where Chip Kelly is going to.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Be during the game.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he will be up in the press box.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: And the last time Chip Kelly was in the press
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: box was as his final year as an offensive coordinator
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: at Oregon, so that was Mike Blatti's last year as
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: head coach, which I believe was two thousand and eight
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: or so. So it's being presented in a very nice
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: way because frid Day is like, it's gonna be clean
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: up there. He's gonna have his iPad, he's gonna have
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: all of his notebooks. When you know, when you're down
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: in the field, it can get a little messy, so
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have a nice clean area. It feels like
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: the ideal situation for Chip Kelly as long as he's
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: happy with it. And you've got Tim Drevno there, You've
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: got Billy Fessler helping him as well. Tony Johnson Larry
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Johnson Sunner is part of the staff as well, helping
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: out just with the eyes upstairs. So to me, this
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: feels like the best scenario for Ohio States offense. And
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: it's just a it's a little bit different for Chip Kelly,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: but just goes to show you how much how willing
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: he is, I think, to do whatever is best for
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: the team.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: When you talk to football coaches about that, so often
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: they want to be on the sidelines. And this is
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the hackiest cliche there is, but they want to see
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the look in their eye. And I'm saying that not
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: because I'm saying that. I'm saying that because that is
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the exact phrase that they use. They want to look
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: their guys in the eyes. They want to they want
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: to see them, they want to fuel them on the sideline.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: All that being said, there's a reason Jim Noles is
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: up in the box. Jymnalles is up in the box
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: because Hymnoles wants to have the All twenty two. There's
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: a reason you don't watch that the when you're breaking
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: down film, you don't break it down from the sideline camera.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: You break it down from the the all twenty two,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: which is up high. That gives you a better view
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: in a year, especially when you're also dealing with the
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: headset coordinator, you know, coordination.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: You can be talking to your quarterback the whole time.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: That way, you don't have to be talking to someone
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: up in the booth who is telling you what they're
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: seeing and then relaying it down to you, and then you're.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Talking to your quarterback.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: It just it feels like you're kind of cutting out
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the middleman a little bit. And with the headset communication
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: piece being new this year, it feels like that might
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: be an in particularly impactful reason why he might be
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: headed upstairs or way he is.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: Next up, Harry wants to know how many quarterbacks play Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I was sitting right behind John Cooper, who comes to
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: all these press conferences during game weeks every year. He's
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: a fixture here, still lives in the area, and he
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: was asking people around him, you know, how many quarterbacks
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna play on Saturday. The consensus seems
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to be three to four. You know, I think.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: It's possible they try to play five. It's possible you
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: try and get it just it's going to depend on
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: how the game's going.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I think they're probably gonna keep Will Howard in there
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a little longer than they might otherwise, just to keep
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you know, get him established, get him really into the system,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: get him as many reps as they can, and then
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you're gonna want to play Devin Brown a decent amount.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to just give him one drive
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and move on to the next guy.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: The other piece of this is how many drives are
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: they going to get?
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Because we have seen with some of the clock rules
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and with the helmet communication and teams huddling more, you're not.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Getting as many plays. You're not getting as many drives
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: as you did last year.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: So I think I'm going to say I think I'm
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: going to say four, but one of them.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Is maybe just for two plays at the very end.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Kind of Yeah, that's where I would go as well,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: because I think, well Howard, even if unless it's like
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: fifty six to nothing at the half, I think he's
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: going to play a series in the third quarters because
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: they normally do that. Yeah, So then you give Devin
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Brown the rest of the third quarter and maybe a
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: series into the fourth. So now do you get two
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: or three possessions in the fourth quarter.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe some high state it's going to be running
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: a clock out too, right, And some of that's going
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: to depend on the defense and how quickly does a
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: defense get off the field. And are they getting off
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the field by forcing a three and out or are
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: they getting off the field by getting a turnover that
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: gives them the ball at the acron ten yard line.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: You know, if you're paying a team program at school
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: one point eight million to come to town, you should
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: be able to dictate. Hey, we'd like you to run
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: at this tempo. We want more snaps, so hurry up. Fine,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: we don't care, We'll take it. We just some more
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: practice for our offense.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: Trench Made Rail would like to know Brandon Innis an
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: over under of seven.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Touchdowns this year.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Brandon Inness over under of seven touchdowns this year. Brandon
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Innis is the number four receiver right now working out
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: of the slot. You figure you're gonna see a rotation
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: where he's in there with the ones too, and maybe
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: they move a book outside, or maybe they give a
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: book a break. Seven touchdowns that feels high for the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: fourth receiver, but you know it's not that hard. To
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: get the slot guy on a little slant or something
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: like that. I'm gonna say seven, can I say push?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: But six and a half? Seven and a half, where
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: are you going?
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I would probably go under just because of the fourth
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: quarterback or the fourth receiver, but again, more games than
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: ever before. I do also think I won't be surprised
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: if he gets a couple of carries. You know, jessweep
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: that sort of thing, so that'll be maybe that's one
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: of those touchdowns. But I would go I would not
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: go a step above six because it's just you just
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: don't see.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: It a lot.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: That's a lot.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I mean if you ask people like that doesn't sound
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: like that many touchdowns, But if you ask people how
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: many touchdowns Jeremiah Smith going to have and they're all
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: going to say fifty three, and then how many touchdowns
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: is Carnal taking to have? And it was just to say, well,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's not as good as Jeremiah Smith, so
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: it'll only be like thirty five. And then it's it's like,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: well they're only gonna throw if they throw what fifty touchdowns?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: This year's fifty five touchdowns? That would be a ton.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: How are you breaking that up.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And let's also remind people the running backs are going
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: to have a bunch of receptions this year as well.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: They're also pretty good.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: And you know, fifty something touchdowns through the year, that
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: would be a lot, and I'm kind of adjusting for
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the longer season.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Fifty would be a lot though.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: And I'm just looking at Jackson Smith and Jigba's sophomore
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: status because I believe you had nine touchdown.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Catches that year.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Sounds about so.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: And he had ninety some catches, ninety five catches that year,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: so it's seven a lot. Yeah, he had yep, nine
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: touchdowns as he finished with ten in his career.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well he had nine touchdowns, but three of
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: them came in the road.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: Next next, uh, we have r KA.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: After hearing from coach Knowles today, are you concerned about
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: safety safety death?
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: After hearing from Jim Knowles today, are you concerned about
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: safety depth?
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've got they feel very good about the starters,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Lathan Ransom and Caleb Downs, and behind them, they've got talent.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: They've got guys Malie Hartford.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: If Caleb Downs was not in Columbus, Malie Harford is
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: probably your starter, and they're probably feeling pretty okay about that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, where do you think they are in terms
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: of safety death?
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think anything changed from what Knowles
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: said today to what he said in the past. Is
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: like they're young behind those two guys, and they would
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Jalen McClain most likely and Willie Cartford. So yeah, you're
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: talking about a freshman and a sophomore. And Lake Carford
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: got a couple of starts last year, so that helps,
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: but it's I don't think it's ideal.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: That's why they went and.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Brought in Keenan Nelson from South Carolina and seeing what
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: he can do. They're trying to find out, just like
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: they did with Jahad Carter the year before, and that
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: didn't necessarily work out. So if you lose one of
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: those two starting safeties, you can't afford to lose either
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: of those guys just because of what they mean to
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: your defense. You can replace them and somebody might play well,
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: but you're not going to get what you got out
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: of either of those two.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: The ceiling there is very very high, and the ceiling
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: if one of those guys is.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Out is lower. It's not a disaster.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: It's not losing Christian Bryant and replacing him with Pitt
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Brown or whoever.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: But it's not ideal.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: And in a year when the top of the sport,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you know that we keep talking about the top four teams,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the bar is pretty high to clear in terms of
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: being at the top of the sport and in terms
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: of the expectations around this Ohio State team. So you're
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: gonna have to you can't lose very many of your
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: top level guys before you start getting into well this.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: You're gonna beat most of the teams, but is it
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: good enough to do what they want to do at
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the end of the season.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: From clever and witty, do you guys expect any other
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: Big Ten teams on our schedule to be any good?
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: If the only challenging games are Oregon Penn State in Michigan,
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: is gonna be a boring season?
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So the most Ohio State of problems. Are any of
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: these teams that Ohio State plays in the Big Ten
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: schedule going to be any good? Or is this going
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: to be a boring season where Ohio State just wins
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: all their games? As far as problems you have, Tony,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that's not too bad. He gave us Oregon, Penn State,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: and Michigan as sort of the free spaces in the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: bing go card. I think Iowa was going to be
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: a challenge. Iowa's going to be a challenge. I don't
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not expecting him to come in and be to
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. But I'm also not expecting that to be
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: a game where Ohio State is It's over in the
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: second quarter by any means. And I think Nebraska could
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: be a halfway decent team this year. You've got You've
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: got teams on the schedule you might have those teams
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: could both win nine to ten games and.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Be in the College Football playoff conversation.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: So that's that's now five of your nine Big Ten
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: games that are pretty good.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I think the issue issue this year's Ohio State schedule
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: is the other four teams on that schedule are all
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: among the probably like twelve to eighteen in.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: The Big Ten rankings and just about everyone's version of them.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Did Northwestern win like nine games last year?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: They won I think eight or seven?
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well they wait, they won nine more than they
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: thought they that they should have, which because they probably.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Thought negative two fourteen.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, there is a world where Nebraska comes into this
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: game this year at seven to zero, ranked in the
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: top ten, and if Ohio State beach them fifty two
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: to three, is that a boring game or is that
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: a big win over a top ten opponents.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: That feels like a game where Big Noon Kickoff comes
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: to Columbus to talk about the unbeaten matchup of the
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Ohio State Buckeyes and the Nebraska Cornhuskers. And then potentially
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: if Ohio State does win by that kind of a margin,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: it becomes this funny footnote where you look back two
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: years from now it's like, why did they come for
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: that game? It's like, oh, well, you got to remember
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: it is possible that Nebraska is unbeaten for that game
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: in Ohio State. Isn't because Ohio State has the organ
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: game before that, so that is entirely possible.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Say, yeah, I would not. I know.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: This is the time of year when everyone's going to
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: go undefeated and everyone's going to win every game seventy
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: two to nothing and never give up a first down
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: and never punt.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: And that's fine, that's what this time of year is for.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: They're probably gonna punt at some point on Saturday They're
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: probably going to give up a first down at some
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: point on Saturday. They might even Tony heaven forbid, give
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: up some points on Saturday. I hate to speak that
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: into existence, but you know, this is the time of
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: year when you gotta just enjoy the season for what
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the season is.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Don't wish away game.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: You've spent the last nine months counting the days I
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: have on this podcast, and I'm sure a lot of
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: people at home have as well, down to the start
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: of the season, counting the days to finally getting Ohio
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: State back, finally get finally seeing all these players on
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the field together for the first time in a real game.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Should you should enjoy that? I would not.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I would not, you know, handwave any of these games
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: because they all you do have to keep winning and
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you gotta you can't take them all, any of them.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Forget it.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: As Ryan Day said, you're only guaranteed twelve.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: That is true. So that's uh. That will do it
• 40:35
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