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155: When I geek...with Jess Weixler · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: That's usually how our shows are held.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and if at some point you could say hi
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  Speaker 2: to Jim and his Atherton friends, that would be so awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Should we just go ahead and knock that one off? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: can we do that?
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  Speaker 2: And one thing, if you could tell them, because they're
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  Speaker 2: at a certain age, they're growing up, and you could
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  Speaker 2: tell them, it's just a movie.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, of course.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a movie. But your dad wants you to know...
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  Speaker 1: That it's just a movie. And hi, Jim and all
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  Speaker 1: your Atherton friends. That is so cool. Go Atherton. The
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  Speaker 5: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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  Speaker 6: To your citizens, we have revealed.
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  Speaker 3: Jessica, you look great!
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  Speaker 1: Are you doing something different?
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  Speaker 7: Or just hanging out with skankier friends? Way down among
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  Speaker 7: Brazilians Coffee beans grow by the billions So they've got
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  Speaker 7: to find those extra cups to fill They got an
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  Speaker 7: awful lot of coffee in Brazil.
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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Marlena.
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  Speaker 1: And this week we have a special guest co-host with us.
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  Speaker 5: You may remember from earlier this year, very briefly, we
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  Speaker 5: have actress Jess Wexler with us.
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  Speaker 3: Hello. I did get it right this time, did I?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you did. Well, it's kind of... It's a little... Weichsler?
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  Speaker 3: Weichsler.
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  Speaker 1: Weichsler?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: Is it German? Yes. Well, I think it's, like, Austrian. Oh. Weichsler.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fake name, because, like, Weichsler is a real name. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I think my family's name was Weichsler, with a C-H,
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  Speaker 1: and they were escaping Austria, like, the sound of music
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  Speaker 1: or something, and.
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  Speaker 3: Changed it to an X.
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  Speaker 1: In between singing and dancing. In mid-song. In mid-song, they
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  Speaker 1: were like, let's put an X in there. Faulkner stuck
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  Speaker 1: a U in there. That's all it takes. Just shove
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  Speaker 1: another letter and you're safe. Yeah, I think we were Muellers.
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  Speaker 2: And we just changed it to Miller because.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it sounds... Sounds like a job. Yeah. Sounds
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  Speaker 1: like you have a job. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: That's what you're looking for.
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  Speaker 8: I'm a miller.
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  Speaker 9: My grandma and great-uncle were Steinbergs, and they changed their
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  Speaker 9: name in the 40s. Not anything to do with, like,
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  Speaker 9: a negative, like.
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  Speaker 1: They were just bored? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: It had nothing to do with people, like, having a
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  Speaker 3: bad opinion about Jewish people, because, I mean, their dad
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  Speaker 3: was Jewish, but, like, Because people made fun of them
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  Speaker 3: and called them hamburgers.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Just the burg part? The burg part, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, just the burg. Steinway.
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  Speaker 3: I think, actually, maybe it's Steinburgers. Steenburgers, Steinburgers, something like that.
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  Speaker 1: They just better be glad they weren't around in the
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  Speaker 1: era of the Hamburglar. I know. No hope for those kids.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so it is once again time for another
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  Speaker 5: edition of Decaffeinated Movie Geek.
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  Speaker 1: Cappuccino on my butt. I still drink coffee.
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  Speaker 3: The last fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for Decaffeinated Movie Geek.
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  Speaker 5: We're coming to you live via digital recording from Nancy's
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  Speaker 5: Bagel Grounds, where we get together, drink coffee, and talk movies.
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  Speaker 5: And as with many of our episodes, we have our
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  Speaker 5: special flavors. So this time we will go to Jess. Jess,
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  Speaker 5: what flavor of coffee are we drinking this time?
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  Speaker 3: Pacific Blacktail.
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  Speaker 1: Very good. We think it comes from the ocean. The
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  Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean. I think it's a deer in
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  Speaker 1: the ocean. I don't know what you're talking about. It's
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  Speaker 1: a deer that they've made. It's a coffee. Dolphin steak.
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  Speaker 1: Those are PC, right?
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  Speaker 3: Ground up into Pacific black tail.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't a commercial for them at all. It's Mahi-Mahi.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Soon to be extinct.
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  Speaker 5: So, yeah, of the many caffeinated movie geek episodes we've
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  Speaker 5: done here, and there's been quite a few now, this
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  Speaker 5: is actually the first time we've lured or brought an
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  Speaker 5: actor or a filmmaker in. So thank you for joining
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  Speaker 5: us here on our sort of semi-home turf here. We always,
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  Speaker 5: you know, rope our friends and the rest of the
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  Speaker 5: crew into it. But, yeah, I've been trying to bring
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  Speaker 5: people in for a while now. So, luckily, we worked
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  Speaker 5: it out this week, so you can join.
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  Speaker 1: Sweet.
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  Speaker 3: I'm offered to be the first in the round.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. May many follow.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we can get over that ancient animosity between geeks.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's happened tonight. I don't think tonight's
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  Speaker 1: that defined. I don't think there's any hope. You don't
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  Speaker 1: know me very well. Maybe it was the techies. I
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  Speaker 1: was going to say, you obviously at least fall into
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  Speaker 1: some level of geekdom. It may be more performance-oriented, but...
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into that. There's a lot of geek in
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  Speaker 1: this little girl. That's what I figured. That's why I
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  Speaker 1: was normally going to some sort of geek activity.
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  Speaker 5: So this time I thought we would just give it
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  Speaker 5: to you, and this can be, you know, Jess's geek activity.
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  Speaker 1: Yay! We can do the whole thing and wrap it
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  Speaker 1: up with your geekdom, as widespread as it may be.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So we will take a break. We need
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  Speaker 1: a refill on coffee. Yes.
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  Speaker 5: songs they have sung for a thousand.
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  Speaker 7: Years The hills fill my heart.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so it was kind of nice to have you
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  Speaker 1: in town.
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  Speaker 5: This makes this interview a little different, because, yeah, we
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  Speaker 5: were discussing earlier, you know, you went to school, like,
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  Speaker 5: up the street. We're all sort of connected to... Your
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  Speaker 5: son's friends, Fred, hang out there. Both of my parents
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  Speaker 5: went to your high school. Your parents went to Appleton, too?
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: I make so much sense of that to you.
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  Speaker 1: Sketchy.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 1: There's a bunch of grungy kids going there.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, so, yeah, it kind of has a nice different
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  Speaker 5: spin to it that we've got this, you know, we're
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  Speaker 5: all sort of thrown back in the middle of the
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  Speaker 5: old neighborhood for you.
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  Speaker 1: So, I don't know, I guess just to give people
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  Speaker 1: the 101 on you. Again, went to Atherton, came from here,
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  Speaker 1: and then escaped. Changed your name and escaped, you know,
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  Speaker 1: running from the Nazis like you did.
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  Speaker 5: And, I don't know, I guess, do you want to
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  Speaker 5: go into all the, I mean, you went to Juilliard?
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  Speaker 1: I did, if I'm very fortunate. about that. They're pretty selective,
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  Speaker 1: so points to you for being a nerd.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks!
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  Speaker 5: Geek and a nerd.
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  Speaker 1: Those are two very different sections. I totally geeked and nerded.
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  Speaker 1: I got my check off of my Shakespeare monologues.
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  Speaker 3: All prepared.
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  Speaker 1: That's a combination of both. That's nerd and geek. I
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  Speaker 1: straight up did the nerd and geek audition and it worked.
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  Speaker 1: But I actually haven't... Are stories allowed? A minor story?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, go to town.
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  Speaker 1: Um... I was like, oh, I'm totally going to be
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  Speaker 1: an actor and went to Chicago and auditioned for all
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  Speaker 1: the major schools. And the first day I auditioned, I
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  Speaker 1: was so nervous. I got into none of them. And
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  Speaker 1: the next day, I was like, this will not kill me.
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  Speaker 1: These nerves will not kill me. Literally, I do not
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  Speaker 1: recommend this. It happened involuntarily. Woke up, vomited, and then
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  Speaker 1: went to my next string of auditions and got into
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  Speaker 1: all those schools. So it's sort of.
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  Speaker 3: That was.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it is what you do. I don't think it's what...
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  Speaker 1: I do not promote bulimia or any of these things. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: But you just have to get the evil out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Exorcist style.
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  Speaker 2: There's something about Mary's school of acting.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: You can't go with the loaded gun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe when it comes down to it. Whatever it
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  Speaker 1: takes to settle down. Get a massage.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure there are other ways.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 5: So, yeah, you've since moved to New York officially?
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  Speaker 1: Is that your main home?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, not anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I moved to New York and I was there for
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  Speaker 1: 11 years, with school included. Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: And then.
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  Speaker 1: Two years ago, I moved to L.A. Been sucked in.
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  Speaker 1: I've been sucked over to L.A. Evil vortex of the
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  Speaker 1: West Coast. You know, I totally thought it was going
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  Speaker 1: to be evil, and I, like, stayed clawing onto New
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  Speaker 1: York with Tooth and Nail because I'm obsessed with New York.
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  Speaker 1: It's culturally intelligent. You know, very geeky in all the
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  Speaker 1: right ways. But work was starting to fade in New York,
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  Speaker 1: and there was just more in L.A. And I got
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  Speaker 1: to L.A., and I... I'm going to blurt out my
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  Speaker 1: first curse word here. I fucking love it.
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  Speaker 3: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I'm like on the water. I surf
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  Speaker 1: in the mornings. It's more about living, isn't it? It
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  Speaker 1: is more about living. I have more space. I was
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  Speaker 1: in a shoebox in New York paying outrageous amounts of money.
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  Speaker 1: Now I pay reasonable amounts of money and live like
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  Speaker 1: in an average to small apartment, which feels like a palace.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You can surf on the Ohio.
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  Speaker 14: Our lives are the same.
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  Speaker 2: I just remember seeing a couple of books somebody put
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  Speaker 2: together of cutting-edge, leading artists in New York and then
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  Speaker 2: on the West Coast. And the difference was all the
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  Speaker 2: people in New York were very intense about what they
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  Speaker 2: had to say about their work, and that was what
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  Speaker 2: they had to say. And then you go to the
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  Speaker 2: West Coast artists... And their comments were all about how
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  Speaker 2: they like fishing. And they really didn't touch, they let
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  Speaker 2: their work speak for themselves. And then they just talked about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just.
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  Speaker 1: Their lives, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying one's better or worse, but, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it is good to let your work speak for
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  Speaker 2: itself and try.
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  Speaker 1: To have a life. If it's possible, if it's, like,
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  Speaker 1: possible for artists, I think it's really smart to live
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  Speaker 1: in both places, because you kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Need a bit of both.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I'm really grateful that I had to fight so
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  Speaker 1: hard for so long. I mean, I'm still totally fighting,
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  Speaker 1: but I got the spirit of it from, like, pounding
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  Speaker 1: the streets every day, riding the subway every day. You know,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes people do get... You know, if you bring that
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  Speaker 1: into kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of, like, hey, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: We'll just wake up in the morning whenever we wake up.
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  Speaker 3: You combine these worlds.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. In the middle somewhere.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In the middle of Kentucky. And that is the life
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  Speaker 1: of a Kentuckian. I suppose so.
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  Speaker 5: So you, I mean, you at least were somewhat well-received
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  Speaker 5: while you were there. Are you sick of the New
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  Speaker 5: Yorker quote?
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  Speaker 1: Is that... Or anybody who gets a quote about them
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  Speaker 1: in the New Yorker, just, like, go ahead and post
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  Speaker 1: it up on billboards. Oh, no. What is my New
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  Speaker 1: Yorker quote? Well, I mean, they named you the new
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  Speaker 1: indie queen of that year.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, but they do that every, like, few months.
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  Speaker 1: I think so.
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  Speaker 5: You're telling me they have a new indie queen every
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  Speaker 5: few months? You're telling me there wasn't a crown involved?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Because if you didn't get a crown, I'm upset. A tiara? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want a tiara. I want a scepter. It definitely
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  Speaker 1: was a Saturday. At least a cape. A cape. So
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I assume the tiara you're wearing right now was from
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  Speaker 1: the ceremony. No, I just wear this. I have one
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  Speaker 1: for each day of the week.
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  Speaker 5: The really strange thing is we're all wearing tiaras.
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  Speaker 1: To kind of seriously answer your question, I will never
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  Speaker 1: be ungrateful for my.
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  Speaker 3: Indie New York life.
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  Speaker 1: Life. Yeah. It was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's got a huge sort of underground scene,
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  Speaker 5: and the indie film scene is kind of huge there,
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  Speaker 5: so I mean, I guess that's the place for specifically
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  Speaker 5: what you.
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  Speaker 1: Had been doing at the time.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, you seemed at least to have, you know,
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  Speaker 5: they kind of worked you into that, so. I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: did we want to go through some of the stuff,
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  Speaker 5: just to familiarize people? Again, we've probably seen at least
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  Speaker 5: a few of these. Most people, especially in our circle,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people And I think that's probably the first.
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  Speaker 1: That's always teeth. You're still probably quite notorious for that one.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if there will ever come a time,
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  Speaker 1: even if I become some massive movie star with tons
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  Speaker 1: of Oscars, where they won't be like, so teeth. Remember
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  Speaker 1: that one?
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  Speaker 3: Really? You made that movie?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: You're the girl.
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  Speaker 3: With the what-sies in there.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh, yeah. Can I mention, my wife and I watched
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  Speaker 1: that movie together.
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  Speaker 5: That was the last thing we did together.
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  Speaker 2: The comment that she made, you know, sometimes there's something in.
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  Speaker 15: A movie, like if you're a cop, you watch a
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  Speaker 15: cop movie, there'll be something you go, no, that's not,
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  Speaker 15: I wish we could get results like that. Anyway, my
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  Speaker 15: wife was watching the movie with me, and at one
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  Speaker 15: point she goes, Oh, right, and she didn't get that
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  Speaker 15: dress stain.
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  Speaker 1: That was a choice.
• 19:32
  Speaker 16: And I'm like, well, Lynn, so in your experience with
• 19:39
  Speaker 16: castration sex, you ruin your dress.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: What are you going to do? It's like, I know
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: what really happens. It's the price you pay to do it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I mean she's like.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: Oh right that's amazing so my question on it was
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: you get that screenplay the first time what do you
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: think reading this did you know midway in that was
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: the premise or do you get halfway through wait a
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: minute Um.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: No, I had no idea what I was reading when
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I picked it up, and I proceeded to read it,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: stopped about halfway through or something, and I was like, no,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not auditioning for this. Um, and then my agents called,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: because the casting directors at the time were Hopper, Smith,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Barden in New York, who were amazing indie casting directors,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: and now they've gone and cast, like, The Help and
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: all this other stuff.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: They're great.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And, um, they were just really pushing for me to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: come in. And so I was like, final audition for
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the best friend, the smaller part, because I don't need
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to be the girl with the teeth in her. And, um,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: when I was in there, then, uh, they kind of
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: convinced me to read the sides for the lead cold,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: just read.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Them off the paper.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Um, and then I got a call like two days
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: later with them offering me the part. And I was like,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And, um, They proceeded to take me
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: out to dinner and talk to me about it. And I,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: through the course of this meal, realized how smart everybody
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: was that was involved. That this wasn't like, it wasn't
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: torture porn. You know, it's a satire. Yeah, for real.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And we were just talking recently about how rare it
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: is to really see horror and comedy combined.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Now, people talk about it, but really it doesn't work
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: very often. I think there's some case where it does work.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: It's supposed to. It is funny.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, for something that could have gone down the
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: road of being just sort of schlocky and sort of
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: using that as the exploitation end of it, it does
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: seem like it's got a lot to say. It's got
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: a lot of other stuff going on with the character,
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: specifically your character, that I think is smarter than you
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: would expect going into that.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Premise, at least. Yeah, and it's been tagged as a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: feminist movie in a lot of circles. And it's done
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: more in that realm. And I was even interested just
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: hearing them talk about it. I was like, oh, I
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: can see that. And it is a satire. It's not
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: some bad.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: B-horror movie or something like that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: But now, there are a few things that I've heard
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: in posts that have made me really proud. And one
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of them is there are a few major colleges that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: have this as, like, listed in their monstrous feminine studies courses. And, like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: John Waters has used it in talking at colleges, which
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: is really cool. And I also had.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I knew some women who had come from Ghana and
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Africa because they had been nurses here for friends of mine.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: And.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: It apparently got big in Africa via being bootlegged. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to me, that was the coolest of all because they
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: have an actual device like this in Africa because rape
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: is such a problem there. Because it's so overwhelming. Yeah,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: so if a woman gets raped, they can have this
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: thing if they feel like they're in danger and it'll
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: mutilate the man so that he can't do it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: To other women.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: That's amazing and sad that that needs to exist. It's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: so sad. It's so sad. But the fact that, like, somehow,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how it resonates with them. I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: think it's still a comedy there, but I'm sure it
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: plays on a whole other level. And apparently most, not most,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many people, but these women knew
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: who I was immediately.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Where, like, teeth is huge. And I was like, that's
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the place where it should be playing. Yeah, that's where
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: it's doing the most good.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yay!
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, so I've, even in the middle of making it,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: because I had so much fun, I never regretted doing
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: it and was really happy that They talked me into it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I just figured at some point you were like, oh,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I'm never going to get a date again. No, what
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: it did is it cut out that I'll never date
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: somebody who has issues with reality. I'll only date sane guys.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Sane guys with wicked senses of humor. Oh, that narrows
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, you're in trouble. There's no way I'm
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: dating a guy who doesn't have a wicked sense of humor. Man,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: all the lights just went out. On the board, there's
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: just a few flickers. There's just a few flickers.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I'm insane.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Throw that in the middle of L.A. You're in trouble. Oh, wow.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, I figured that had the most
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: behind it there, but I guess just some of the others.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: Peter and Vandy, which I have recently watched, it's got
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: some amazing scenes in it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: And I mean, if there's any you want to So
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: in there, I watched Alexander the Last.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: You have a lot of really impressive stuff to do
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: on that one. And specifically when we watched The Lie
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: this past. And if you go back, you'll listen to
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: that episode.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: And that was months.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: Before it ever actually came out. So we were being
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: super selective on what we said.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Because again, we were trying not to spoil anything because
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: it was well before anybody was going to see it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So we definitely were not going to touch The Lie itself.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: But even like Performance-wise, we almost didn't want to clue
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: people in too much on who was doing what and
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: what was going on. So it's very vague, but if
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: you go back and listen to that one, you can
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: hear us just sort of go on and on about
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: this specific actor. We never name who it is because
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: we're trying to keep everything vague, but the scene that
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: this actor has to do while listening to this song,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: that's one of the most amazing scenes I've ever seen.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. It's just a shot of your face
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: for the entire length.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Of a song, and it is one of the most
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: expressive scenes I have ever seen. It's kind of amazing.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's just something that a lot of people
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: can relate to, and, like, somebody that they love is
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: like super proud of something that they did and within
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: a few brief moments you realize oh no.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah this is that scary picture on the refrigerator.
• 26:39
  Speaker 14: This this isn't they're not gonna make it this is
• 26:43
  Speaker 14: not at least not with this but uh yeah so
• 26:48
  Speaker 14: um i yeah i loved working on that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: And Yeah, that scene, and again, the one at the
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: end between the two of you is also equally as impressive,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: but I think that one just, because it sort of
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: catches you off guard and you do so much with that,
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: it's pretty impressive to watch.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: So definitely, if for nothing else, that scene. Go watch
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: that scene.
• 27:09
  Speaker 15: Thank you.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: We wanted to, or eventually it got and then maybe
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: we chimed in afterwards or something. That's really where, like,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the lie starts. The lying starts right there. Nothing is said.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: It's all you.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: The lies are going both ways.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: But I've noticed you do that really well in general.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, there was one in Alexander the Last that you,
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, you had this moment where you start to
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: say something and you stop. and then end up not
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: saying it, but the way that you do it is almost, like,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: ten times more expressive than... I don't know, you do
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: a really impressive job of non-verbal acting that a lot
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: of people I don't think tap into, so it's... Thank you.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's pretty impressive, so... Yeah, go run.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Down the list and see whatever you haven't of hers, because, yeah,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: I think she does some impressive work.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, any other specifics of those you wanted
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to go to, or.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I can't off the top of my head sort of
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: think through my whatever, but I have one that I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: made this year that I'm really excited about, so we'll
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: see how that turns out. It's really funky.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Super funky one.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I kind of like going into where you sort of
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: attached yourself to, again, sort of the geekiness, but also
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: the performance end of it. I guess, how early on,
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: what was the earliest point you.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Cookies are being stolen.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: What was the earliest point you kind of remember, you know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: wanting to do that?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Like seeing something and going, that's what I want to do.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I think it was so early that I can't pinpoint
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that moment. but there are definite incarnations of the idea
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: that I was like, I'm going to be a star.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Don't we all play that game? Part of me started
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: screaming that, and for what reason, but... And your mom
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: had that moment of, oh, this poor child.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I was really, really young, and I.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: There are videos of me, too, dancing around, holding toothbrushes
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: as microphones, and You do that now, don't lie.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: I still do it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: We never change. It's cool to be yourself. Yeah, and
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: my grandma started putting little microphones in my hand, so
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I was going to be a rock star for a
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: really long time, and.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Then I think.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I started seeing plays. I think plays were the first
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: time I really thought, oh, I can do this. Because
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I saw somebody in person. Like, I'd always seen people
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: on TV and thought, I want to do that one day.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: But it just felt like such a huge gap. Between
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: getting from where I was here in Kentucky, yeah, to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that mystical little box. It is kind of. It's a
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: million miles away. It's a million miles. How do you
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: get there? I still want to get there. It's too
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: far away. So I think I started seeing just stuff
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: on the stage, everything here. And as I got into,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was a total Shakespeare nerd in high school.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Did stuff with Walden Theater, and they exposed me to,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you know, great, difficult, adult, mature plays that kind of
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: made me grow as a person. And then I was
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: really like, no, this is for me.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: This is what I want.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: I think with a lot of people, that's where you,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: on the beginning stages, everybody sort of goes into plays.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: What I always wonder is what leads you towards film?
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, film is a much more specific type of
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: acting and very different than what you have to It's
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: the same basic idea, I know. But, I mean, you
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: sort of have to focus on things a little differently.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: So what made you want to go more into film?
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Or do you still do plays?
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I do still do plays, or I did when I
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: was in New York. But I am focusing more on
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: film right now. And it comes from the same places,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the theater and when I was here. But I would
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: see movies and they would just, I would feel like
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I had been changed after them. Like, I was thinking differently.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I cared so much about what had happened to the people.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And it made me look at things from an objective,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: outside perspective. Even if I noticed things in other characters, like, oh,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I do that. I do that sometimes. And I couldn't
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: reflect on it until I had seen it in context.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: In somebody else's context.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: started falling.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: In love with movies and just wanted to be in
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: that world. I started trying.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: I understand that. I, yeah, I think that's what brought
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: me to this every week and probably everybody listening has
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: that same little relationship with movies. So it's, yeah, it's,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: but it's kind of, I mean, is, is it something
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: you're conscious of that you're, did you have to start
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: doing things a little differently with your acting as you
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: got more familiar with the camera and.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: The way that you sort of set up everything? Yeah.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: The basics are all the same. You can just notice
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it on film. You can get away with a moment
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: that you're not present inside of on stage. Because everybody
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: goes in and out. One of my favorite acting coaches
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: in New York used to talk about a batting average
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: compared to everything to baseball. That being a great actor
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: is about having a high batting average.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: But you don't like.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. hit everything out of the park that's just not
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: the way things work so many times as you have
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to repeat a show yeah yeah so and um the
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: camera is just so on you it which is i
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: think where i eventually started learning that i didn't have
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to say something or it was okay yeah to um
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: make transitions in the silence.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: That's what I wonder, because I think that's something that
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: reads so well on film, and that you've done so
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: well that, yeah, I think doing that on stage would
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: be wasted. You know, the front row might get it, but,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: you know, you almost need to be right there in
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: the middle of it to kind of pick up on
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: all that stuff.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've probably always played subtle, for better or
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: for worse. I remember I was chastised at Juilliard, possibly
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: for not projecting. And also, I hate to inform anybody
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: here in Louisville that, you know, wants to go into
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the theater. There's a little bit of a leap that
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: we have to make because of our accents. I don't
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. We don't have that. It's
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: like you should just talk a little bit more like this. Like,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: it's just a little bit more in the back of
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the throat. You kind of swallow it. You lose words
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and you're not You're not projecting. So I had to
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: learn to speak in the front of my face and
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: project in a way which was completely unnatural to me
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: at first. We don't talk like that. I don't know
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: what you're talking about.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I think I can volunteer. I have the laziest voice.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: In the world. Lazy, but all of us. And I
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: hear the sound. It's like way back here. Yeah.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: And it's not even sometimes I just push the next
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: syllable out.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And I get compared to Carlton the doorman on Mara Tyler.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was starting to say, that reference is losing
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: its audience. Yeah, so then it becomes Garfield. Yeah, which
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: even then you're like, you sound like Bill Murray? Yeah,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: it was the same guy.
• 34:55
  Speaker 17: But yeah, I guess something to do, I often wonder
• 35:02
  Speaker 17: if we're losing that to something, because I feel like
• 35:05
  Speaker 17: so much of my childhood was television and movies that
• 35:07
  Speaker 17: I feel like that's New York and L.A., so I
• 35:10
  Speaker 17: don't feel like, you.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Know, who I interact with here. I don't hang out
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: with people here. So you've picked up the accent from TV.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like I should have, at least.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: So I wonder if, especially now, people are talking across
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: the Internet, across the world now.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: It's like, are we eventually going to kind of lose
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: a bigger part of that? I mean, I guess they'll
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: always be. I think that's where it might come to.
• 35:30
  Speaker 17: Yes.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, people aren't that aware of their accent
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: until they hear it. I had no idea what.
• 35:37
  Speaker 9: My voice sounded like until I listened to an episode
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: of the show.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, my voice sounds like it's horrible.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: So I'm just, you never listen to the show. The
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: way you sound and the way you think you sound
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: are totally different. Like, I don't think I have an accent, but, like,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: if I'm in a different town and there's people talking
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: around me, like if I'm in Ohio, people are like,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: what is wrong with your accent? I'm like, I don't
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: have an accent. You have an accent. And then a
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: fight breaks out.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: It's weird. Everybody kind of does.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: But even growing up, my brother told me I didn't
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: have the accent that I was supposed to have when
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I grew up.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Because I would, I was like putting oil on the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: chain on my bike. He was like, oils? What's what?
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: It's all. All. All. People aren't going to know what
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you're talking about. I still don't. If you talk properly,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: people aren't going to know what you're talking about.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I do have a bit of a southern accent, but
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: not the right one.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Not the wrong one. That's how we do things.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Everyone in my family says oral. Oral?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: They add a whole bunch of extra.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, however it's manifested itself, we all started
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: talking in the back of our throats. Yeah, I do.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: And it's really not helpful for the stage.
• 36:52
  Speaker 17: No.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Or anything, really. But we do it because that's the
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: way we are. And that's why I picked a medium
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: where I could shove a microphone in my face.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how to not talk in the
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: back of my throat. I don't even... I can't even
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: begin to, like, fathom how I would change that. It's hard.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: It takes about four years. And you have to have
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: people telling you you're not doing good a lot. Sounds fun.
• 37:17
  Speaker 17: Sure.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: It would probably be really, really expensive.
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: So you have several years and several thousand dollars.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: For a scholarship.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: For a scholarship. Which I don't have. Those are trouble.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: So you auditioned for Juilliard in Chicago at the big.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: My wife went.
• 37:40
  Speaker 18: To Chicago and auditioned with, I don't know, the actor W.
• 37:46
  Speaker 18: Earl Brown, and he got in, and she didn't get
• 37:49
  Speaker 18: what she was looking for. But she only auditioned for
• 37:52
  Speaker 18: what she auditioned for, but he got into DePaul.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: DePaul. DePaul, yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, cool.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Well, it was the Goodman School then, but now it's just...
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: They're still good.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: DePaul is still on the top of the list.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: For, you know. Oh, and he's a good actor.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: But he was so excited. He came back. He was
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: like jumping around. It's got to be a big day.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I really, I know this is going to just start
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: sounding preachy or something. It's all about persistence because so
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: many people have worked or didn't get into, you know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: like I didn't get into anywhere the first day. You know, there's,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: it's kind of just like you just keep going at it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: You don't keep vomiting.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: No. You get it over with, and then you're good. No.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: That's the secret. Now we know. 101. Like a helpful video.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: A user's guide.
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: College.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: That's terrible.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: All jokes.
• 39:04
  Speaker 16: Just jokes, kids.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: Just jokes.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Just jokes. Just jokes, everyone.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Just jokes.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: We're rarely PC. It's okay.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: I would think by now they know to expect the
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: sort of behavior from us.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I feel sorry for the person that listens to the show,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: or any show for that matter, and is like, this
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: is a great idea, I'm going to try that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: We're not responsible if you decide to do it. We
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: take no responsibility.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: I was going to ask, I mean, in a little while,
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: when we get to the other movie, we're going to
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: run into a weird situation.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Where an actress sees a role and wants to take.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: It upon herself to play that which I thought was
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: kind of odd so we'll get more into that later
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: but I was just kind of wondering from an acting
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: standpoint have you ever seen something like on I guess
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: on screen as a performance and been like I need
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: to do that I thought that was almost strange actually that.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: In the remake of the movie we're going to discuss
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: later she supposedly watched that and went you need to
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: remake that movie with.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: Me so I'm like that seems like an odd thing
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: so I don't know if I think that about every movie.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Well, that's true, but that doesn't surprise me with you.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like that about plays. It's always like that
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: with plays, I guess. Because there are parts where you're like, ooh,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I want to play that role. And I guess I've
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: felt that about some parts in movies where like, ooh,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: that would be a roller coaster. Armageddon with me.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: But the whole remake thing is rarely exciting.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: It's strange, isn't it? It is. It's strange. Sometimes.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: And that's what I thought, especially in such a short
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: span of time. I mean, within 10 years to turn
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: around and have to do what, you know, was otherwise
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: a pretty well-received role yourself.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That seems.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I love Naomi Watts, too.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's one of my favorites. We'll get into
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: talking about the movie. I'm not sure why they remade
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it within the course of 10 years, especially shot for shot.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: unless it's just another funny game. I get it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 13: I almost.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost suspect it's one of those things that's
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: like when Robert Rauschenberg did two paintings that were identical,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: and they had different little expressive brushstrokes. They're more or
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: less the same, and he shows them side by side,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: and it's like, what's the difference?
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: If it's an exercise or something.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I know that the... topic and the premise is
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: more has only increased in um prevalence is that the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: right word relevance relevance there we go i came up
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: with that resonance all of these are more appropriate than
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: prevalence which i don't think exists um resonance yeah it
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: only becomes more and more resonant um unfortunately as time
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: goes on the world unfolds more um And maybe it
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: was his way of trying to revive the idea of
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: analyzing the torture. I felt it had.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: To be something or else he wouldn't have the patience
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: to remake it. He'd want to do the next thing.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: He had to have some feeling about wanting to make
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: it again.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. That's just my feeling. I wouldn't
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: have the patience. We can get to that, I suppose.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: We'll get a little ahead of ourselves.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe he just wanted to... appeal to an American audience.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: That's usually what the reasoning is, is just to open up,
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, with all those horror remakes that they did,
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: it's just because Americans are too stupid to read, so
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: it's like, we have to remake The Ring, we have
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: to remake The Grudge, and it's exactly the same, but
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: we need, you know, some WB star in the middle
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: of it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I wasn't aware of this movie until, you know, you
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: told me to watch it.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I never heard of it. But it's like, this isn't
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Naomi Watts' only foreign horror remake.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's kind of weird.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: It's questionable whether we can call this a horror.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's arguable. Again, I guess we'll get into that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: We mentioned shoving your character into other movies. Yours have
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: all kind of fit within that same realm. Is moving
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: to a different type of movie, a different level of movie,
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: something you specifically want to do? Like, big Hollywood blockbuster
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: kind of stuff?
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Is that something you're actively seeking? Or is it just real?
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Of course.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: But not, I mean, like anyone who loves what they do,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I would like to love what I'm doing. You know,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and I don't think budget or, you know, there are
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: plenty of big studio movies that are gorgeous.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Some of them are just huge independent slash kind of
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: studio movies, like, I don't know, The King's Speech or
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It's weird that there's that level now.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never know what package it's going to come in,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: but I do know when I see something and I'm like,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: if I can get on board with that, I'm definitely
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: going to try.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: You've made very smart choices with, you know, looking through
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: all the stuff you made. So, yeah, I wondered how
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: specific you were with what you wanted to do going
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: into the bigger part.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I've also made a lot of unwise choices. Those just
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: have gotten buried, thank God. I was going to leave
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: that for you.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Let's just keep it.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's add them all right now. With indies, the
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: problem is that oftentimes you work with first-time filmmakers and
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: sometimes they're awesome. Like, Mitchell, who did too, was a
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: first-time filmmaker, but I was like, he's smart.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: It's very visually interesting.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've gambled on some people and halfway through,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to out them and be like, this
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: is not going to work. How do I get out
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: of this movie? And then I die. She got that
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: page in there real quick. I have quite literally done
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: that all day. I was like, I don't think she
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: would follow them. I don't think she would keep going.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: I think she's going to stay at the house and
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: not be in the movie anymore.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't trust anybody who's never in anything bad.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's just weird. It's just sort of life
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: in general. You're not doing something they ought to be doing.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: The world is filled with forgiveness. They figure, you know,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you're going to trial and error along the way. I suppose.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Well, I thought we'd round it out, you know, with
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: the real geek activities.
• 45:59
  Speaker 19: So I guess, aside from performance, what level of geek
• 46:02
  Speaker 19: are you? What are your super hardcore geeky things? I mean,
• 46:06
  Speaker 19: what type of stuff? I guess anything other than movies
• 46:09
  Speaker 19: that you fall into.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, what makes me a geek?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I was way more of a geek before I started surfing.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Because now that I surf, it has definitely pushed my
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: geek down. To me, everything falls into that. Wow, you
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: lose a lot of geek points. I lose a lot
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: of geek, I think. I'm of the opinion that geek
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: applies to everything. You're just a surf geek now. Yeah,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: you can be a surf geek, but you lose... general
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: geek points in all other respects. It's more the surfing.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: It's a peak in the surf area. But my surf geek,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: here's something that makes me a surf geek, though, is
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I have to wear booties when I surf. When I geek.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: When I surf geek. I always wear them when I geek.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: We all have our geeks booties. My booties and my
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: geek out.
• 46:57
  Speaker 13: I have them.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Officially issued to me by the Geek Squad. I'm wearing none.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: The Geek Squad at Best Buy? No, no, no.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: See, they sold out. We don't like those guys. The
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: old school geek stuff. Yeah, because I have a fear
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: of the ocean floor. A healthy fear of the ocean floor.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: You don't know what's down there.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I don't blame you. I got hit with a stingray.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I don't trust it now either.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: So I just wear these adorable geeky booties.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Sure they are. Geeky booties.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Geeky booties.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: And what else do I do that's super geeky? I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: told you I like to study like Shakespeare and stuff.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: That's super geeky. Every summer I go and do Chekhov.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: That's pretty geeky. Gotta have some geeky stuff that is
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: not theater related.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Help me out.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: What are some of the traditional geeky video games? You
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: don't do a lot of the computer. I'm not a computer.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Video games? I'm a huge angry bird player. Huge.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: There's a whole new level, but then Phil is like
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: my six-year-old nephew.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: You can hook it up to your TV. I haven't
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: figured that out yet. But I do spend time, you know...
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: This is going to really be telling. There are one
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: or two nights where I've been like, I don't feel
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like going out. And I will literally pour myself a
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: whiskey and sit on the couch and play Angry Birds.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: And the booties as well. Oh, you have to have
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the booties on for that. I totally have to do that.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know why that's like, that's all I want
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: to do.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Just have a glass of whiskey and.
• 48:46
  Speaker 15: Play Angry Birds.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Your geek points went up a little for me there.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: That's very awesome. What is the whiskey?
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: It's all over the map.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Bullet is kind of a standard.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: So you're not going to plug us here?
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Maker's Mark is here. I do Maker's Mark all the time.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: That's the only whiskey I do. As long as they
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: send a check over.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Bullet is a Kentucky whiskey.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Bullet's Kentucky? I don't know if it's Louisville.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I used to.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: My wife's family knows this guy, Baker Beam. For a while,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: he was the head distiller at Jim Beam. And for
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: a few years, every year, he would give us a
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: bottle of his own label, Baker's... I don't know what
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I did to get off that guy's Christmas list. Because
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: that's not something I'm going to go out and buy
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: for myself.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, you've got to get on that Christmas list.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I did something bad. You piss a
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: lot of people off. It's probably something I said on here.
• 49:47
  Speaker 17: More than likely.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: It happens a lot. Oh, I just thought of another
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: geeky thing I do. So I drive out to Pasadena
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: sometimes to visit my friends at Caltech. And what we
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: do is then we go to the Chinese superstore because
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: they have superstores like bigger than Walmart out there just
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: filled with like products from China. Wow. And we just
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: go like late night shopping because they're open super late
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and like stock up on crazy foods that, like, you
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: can't pronounce and stuff, and take it home and try
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: to cook it.
• 50:23
  Speaker 10: Cool.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Very fun and geeky. That is totally geeky. Yeah. It
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: is a huge food geek market. Experimental food geek.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also crazy shopping excursion geeky, food geeky.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: With friends from Cal Tech. Okay, all right. We got that.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: That has been written in the record.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Bring my points back in. Bring them up.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: I'm doing okay now.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: And then I guess just any, back to the movie
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: end of it, have you watched anything lately other than
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: the movie later today that's good, bad, or otherwise, I guess?
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: I've been super into Henneke lately.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, to just get on with funny games, there's like,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: He's a genius, and if you hear him talk, if
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: you listen to his commentaries, I mean, when you hear
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: me talk later, I'm going to be like, well, Henneke
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: said this about the movie, and Henneke said that about
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the movie. I think she's on the stage payroll.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: He's kind of a genius.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: The piano teacher and Benny's video, and yeah, they're all.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Just geniuses.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: And then the Ernest movies, of course. Oh, yes, yes.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Like Ernest Goes to Christmas or something like that.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: To balance out your life.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: How else have I seen?
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Ernest Goes to Borrow Eggs. That was the last one
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: he ever made. I'll go ahead and put in this
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: promo because it's my best friend.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Tree of Life. Jessica Chastain. Anything She Touches. Skull. So.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Go see her movies. They're all in the theater right now. Yeah.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: All right. And I did also just see Girl with
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Dragon Tattoos. I saw that, too.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty awesome.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I still kind of, yeah. I was, again, I'm doing
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: remakes for America. I was worried about the idea at first,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: but the trailers made it look good, so I'm interested
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: in it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: I think they even liked it better than the other ones.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: I held off because I was getting ready to watch
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: that one when they started, and I'm like, ooh, Fincher, really?
• 52:35
  Speaker 16: Really?
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I think I kind of want to see his first
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: and then maybe go back in.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: So I sort of held off and went, I want
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: to see what he does with it fresh and go
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: in without.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Knowing, I mean, I already know a good portion.
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: But without really experiencing the whole first movie, I kind
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: of want to go in and see what he does first.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, you're going to see it in a way that... Yeah,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I thought that would be interesting.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: It makes me want to use the word badass again. Describer,
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: and I haven't used that word since like 2003.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, that is so not geeky of you. Badass never died.
• 53:09
  Speaker 11: Whoa, she's a badass.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: What a badass. It's in my notes to use it
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: I'm going to start using it at least once daily.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: You can just talk to us and be like, badass.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: That part was totally badass.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're really geeky, then you'll have discussions on
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: whether you hyphenate that or not.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I've checked on that. I maintain you do not. The
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: sad part, I think I've checked that before. I do not.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I think it falls under both categories. Really? I think
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I've seen versions of it that are one word, that
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: are hyphenated, that are two words.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: And it's all allowed.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't really find a definitive.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I argue if you're up to date in usage, there's
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: no hyphen in badass.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Besides, we have to conserve the hyphen. It's our most
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: precious resource. No, see, I'm of the other camp. Really,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you hyphenate badass?
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: I bastardize as much of the English language as possible,
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: so I hyphenate. Usually I just start jamming words together
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: and then hyphenate them all.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I don't do that. And then you've created your own word, phrase, whatever.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: I love to do that. I get in trouble for
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: it when I'm writing papers.
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: They'll circle it, not a word.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: That's a German instinct. That's how Germany works.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: They actually just put all the little things, like the
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: word for telephone means little black.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Box that talks.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Nice. That's what I've been told. That's what I'm
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: doing then, right? That's what I've been told. Creating my
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: own language. Yes. Bastardized English.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Nice.
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Might as well. All right. I guess we can round
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: out your geek activities.
• 54:50
  Speaker 10: And now it's time for a Marlena moment. Okay.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I've mentioned this on the air before,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: but I have been horribly afraid of pigs, like, for
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: quite a while. I once.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Dated, air quotation.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: A pig?
• 55:06
  Speaker 13: No, no, no. This guy who had little, like, Boston
• 55:10
  Speaker 13: Terrier dogs that would, like, come down the hall and
• 55:13
  Speaker 13: sound like pigs snorting their smooshy faces.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: And it scared me, just because I'm afraid of pigs.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Whenever I go to, like, a barbecue restaurant, there's, like,
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: little pig salt and pepper shakers on the table, or
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: any image of a pig.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I shudder. I try to hide. I run from it.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: From an image of a pig, like a fake pig.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Stuffed pigs don't like them.
• 55:32
  Speaker 17: But.
• 55:33
  Speaker 9: Christmas Eve, my family Christmas, my little cousin comes in.
• 55:37
  Speaker 13: With this little, I don't know what it was.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: It was something in like a blanket bundle.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Bundle of joy.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: It was a bundle of joy. And I hear everyone
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: else in my family go, oh. So I think it's
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: a puppy and I run up to like see what
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: it is. And she moves the blanket away and it's
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: a pig.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: And so do you. That's like they're holding a snake.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Like a rattlesnake in a little swaddling clothes. It was
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: a pig. Yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 13: So, I mean, like, as ridiculous as it is, I, like,
• 56:04
  Speaker 13: run and hide in the next room, and I'm, like,
• 56:07
  Speaker 13: shaking and crying, because it's like an infant five-week-old pig.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: And, uh, you know... In the picture, it looks tiny.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: It's the size of... It was, like, the size of.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: My hand, pretty much.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: But, uh.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: my little cousin comes in with a pig and she's.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Like it's just a pig it's just a baby and
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I'm screaming get it away from me get it away.
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: From me and they finally calm me down and force
• 56:33
  Speaker 9: me to hold it and it's like the sweetest cutest
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: little pig and it makes these like it started making
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: these pig noises and that freaked me out all over
• 56:40
  Speaker 9: again but then I got used to it you don't
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: like pigs pigophobia they.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Call that pigophobia pigs are the best pigs are smarter
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: than children.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: In German they call that pigophobia maybe that's.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Why you're scared yeah And.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: I'm still saying it now needs to be the special
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: guest at the Oscar party. I decided years ago to
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: have a theme party which became the Oscar Mayer party.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: So now you eat as much pork as possible while
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: watching me. Remember even with those creepy wooden things? I'm
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: a vegan. Are you? I'm semi-vegan. I'm only semi-vegan too, honestly.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I've been a vegetarian since I was 14. Me too,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: And then a friend of my daughter's was doing the
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: vegan thing and I got interested in the cocaine and
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: what you can do. So I'm kind of doing it,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: but not I wasn't fully committed. I was doing it
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: for fun.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I'm still not, but I think I am going to
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: be vegan as much as I can.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: And then those socially awkward events, I'm just going to
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: say screw it. Because I don't want to be one
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: of those people who is just like, I don't do
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: this about anything. I don't want to be hardline about anything.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: It's like, I generally don't. Left to my own devices.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it. You know, if somebody
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: makes a big deal of taking me to their favorite restaurant, it's,
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've opened it up to that for years now,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: and nobody ever takes me up. I try to bring
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: in the other alternatives, but, you know, nobody shows up.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Well, if we have Lucy, she's vegan.
• 58:19
  Speaker 17: See?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: You're never into it. What, you were going to bring
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: live pigs to the Oscar party? I thought it was
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: fitting just to, you know, hang out and have a
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: game going.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: I was told once that the end of the cartoons... Porky.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Pig in Sweden, if you translate what he says, instead
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: of saying, that's all, folks, he says, that's all you
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: get for your quarter. That's all you get for your quarter.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: That's what I was told. That seems fitting, too.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: If you translate the way Porky Pig is translated in Sweden,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Translate it back. That's how it comes out. I was
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: told that at a party by somebody who watched Porky
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Pig and Sweet.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Amazing. I have a vegan geek thing.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Again, we welcome that.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: Truthfully, my sausage of choice these days is the whatever the,
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: what's the green box?
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Morningstar. I prefer that over regular now. They're pretty good
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: at making the fake. It's so expensive though.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: What's really good, I invented a vegan BLT. And you
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: get the meatless Italian sausage. You cut it into little
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: strips and pan fry it. And then, you know, you
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: get just whatever else you put on a BLT.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Not the LLT. It's really good. Yeah. It makes stuff
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: really good. I mean, at the risk of sounding... not geeky,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: and just opinionated. We welcome that. One of the big
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: problems is that they don't charge enough for meat because
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: they don't charge enough for actual meat. And that's why
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: everybody falls into that category. That's why everybody eats it
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: at every meal, and the industry is a disaster, and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: it is factory farming that is killing the world.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 13: I agree.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: You get swept up in it, but... I agree there's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of what's wrong with that industry and that
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: entire way of thinking. I don't think eating dairy in
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: and of itself or any of that stuff is at
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: all bad. I just think factory farming is disgusting.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Well, and it is for the people who do it, too,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: because they grew up when they were kids on a
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: farm where there were animals. But now the animals wouldn't
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: survive outside because they've been bred outside. And they have
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: to live in a, now they work in.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Factories instead of a farm. They're kept in tiny cages
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: and they, to get all gross on this, you know,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: defecate on themselves and then take tons of hormones and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: they're shy.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: It's just awful.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: And they wear geek booties. And they wear play angry birds.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: The cows?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: No, right, no. They don't, do they? I was watching
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: a different documentary. If only they had that sweet life.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, what are you talking about?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, but here's the geeky, nerdy, vegan-y thing that I do.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I make my own cheese. Do you?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: I haven't heard that story.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Out of cashews, and I get these seaweed agar flakes
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: from the Chinese superstore that I go to and melt
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: them down into almond milk. And that makes a gelatin-like substance.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And then I grind up the cashews and nutritional yeast
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and miso and mix that into it. And I am
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: telling you, this creamy cheese... Vegan will blow your mind. Oh,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: I want to know. I challenge you to not.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 12: Love my vegan.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: At this point, we went hand out. Next time I'm
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: in Louisville, I will bring nachos. Nice.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: And we will have a.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: We do work a ridiculous amount of food.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: It's hard to find a, like, Daiya is the only
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: vegan cheese I can.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Find around here.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, and it's kind of gross.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a little gooey and, like, stringy.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: There's something about it. It works with something. Yeah. Some
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: things you can get away with it.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Like, You can make pesto with it, and it's pretty good.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Or one of them, because there are a couple of kinds.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: And then they have that, like, non... They have.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: That cheese substitute, but if you look at the ingredients...
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: It's got casein in it, and that's a milk product.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: It's like, what's the point of a substitute.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: That has a milk product in it? You have to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: go nut cheese in general, and I know that's it.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Let me take that back. Reverse that. Reverse that. It's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: not on here. I'm talking cashew. No, I am talking
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: cashew and almonds, guys. Cashew and almonds. All right.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: I am dealing with juveniles.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Have you ever made paneer?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Paneer?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Paneer. No.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's the cheese.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not vegan.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: It's like Indian cheese. It's like cottage cheese.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: You just... Honestly, if cheese comes from a farm, I'll
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: eat it. Yeah?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Off of a real sweet-loving farm.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Where they all wear booties all day long. Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I was just amazed because, you know, there was
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: paneer and I like Indian food. But then you can
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: just make it on your stovetop. And at first I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: didn't believe it, but you just take milk and boil
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: it and put lemon in it.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: And then it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: Does that?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: It turns into cheese. It turns into like Indian food cheese.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: I have a friend who makes labneh cheese.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: I can't remember what it's made of.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: This is the cheesemaking episode. No, I just realized as
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: we're getting into it how truly geeky talking cheese is.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I told her you can make up about anything.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 9: And the sad thing is we could probably walk around
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: Frankfort Avenue and find ten more people who know way
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: more about cheese.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Who way want to talk cheese with us.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: When people are walking by, it's like we should bring
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: them in and see what they think. What's your favorite cheese? Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: I just watch them at the mailbox there, and I'm like,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: are they returning something to Netflix?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Get them in here. They're a movie geek. Get over here.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Well, this has been the cheese hour. I do want
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: to know how to make that cheese.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: I'll send you a recipe.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I want to know. That's cool. And it's fast, too.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: It sounds like a lot of ingredients, because it kind
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: of is.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 17: Really?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: It's fast? It doesn't take very long. You just need
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: a killer blender. You've got to have a good blender to...
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: To crush the cashew nuts. Like, actually capable of killing.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I think I rented Killer Blender once. Yeah.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: It was a good movie.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: There's some funny games sprinkled in there.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: What are you going to.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Do about it? Sprinkled in there.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: Well, we, you know, I would hope at this point
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: people are so suckered into our, you know, enthralling conversations
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: that they'll want to come back next week for, okay, kids,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: get out your Dakota pins, because next week we will
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: be back to discuss.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: The original, and what, Austrian we decided? Is that his
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: country of origin for that one? The original version of
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Funny Games.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 12: So, yeah, we've gotten carried away on many, many geek
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 12: topics here. So, yeah, we will wrap it up for
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 12: now and be back to tell you about Funny Games
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 12: next week.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: And that's all you get for your course. Otherwise, that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: about does it. We will return next week. Same geek time,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: same geek feed. Thanks for listening. Here I am.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 7: I lie so still and watch the moments and I understand.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 13: I try so hard to picture you, my dear.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I am dealing with juveniles!
• 1:09:11
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• 1:09:23
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