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FRIDAY NIGHT SPECIAL: KILLER ATTORNEY ALEX MURDAUGH RETRIAL ODDS IMPROVE AS FORMER COLLETON COUNTY CLERK PLEADS GUILTY · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Well, it's Friday night and
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  Speaker 1: it is special.
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  Speaker 2: Killer Attorney Alex Murdog retrial odds. That long and tortuous trial,
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  Speaker 2: the investigations, the twists, the turns, the cross exams, Alex
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  Speaker 2: Murdock on the stand line through his teeth crying. Now
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  Speaker 2: the odds are sorry that Alex Murdog will have a
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  Speaker 2: new trial.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, Moil Road, I need.
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  Speaker 3: My wife and.
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  Speaker 1: Here on the line.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still here, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I have an Alex Murdock on the line hauler from
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  Speaker 4: forty one.
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  Speaker 3: His wife's and child was shot.
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  Speaker 4: Seven Mozille, No love it up through it now.
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  Speaker 2: It is bad.
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  Speaker 3: They they shouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, hell no, ma'am.
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  Speaker 4: I like my sworn.
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  Speaker 3: No bear bear on ground out at my perils.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm really bad. Yeah, they're on the ground up
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  Speaker 2: by the kettle, shot really back because I just shot him.
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  Speaker 1: Apstead.
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  Speaker 2: I say that with me an all star panel to
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  Speaker 2: makes sense of what is happening right now.
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  Speaker 1: How does it go from that guilty verdict.
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  Speaker 2: To the judge on the bench trying to make a
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  Speaker 2: determination whether there has been jury misconduct?
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  Speaker 5: Listen, I simply do not believe that the authority of
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  Speaker 5: OURSI comana Supreme Court requires a new trial in a
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  Speaker 5: very lengthy trial such as this on the strength of
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  Speaker 5: some fleeting and foolish comments by a publicity influenced clerk
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  Speaker 5: of court. This is a matter within the discretion of
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  Speaker 5: the trial judge, and I am the trial judge at
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  Speaker 5: this moment. I do not feel that I abuse my
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  Speaker 5: discretion when I find the defendant's motion for a new
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  Speaker 5: trial on the factual record before me must be denied,
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  Speaker 5: and it is so ordered.
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  Speaker 2: That was Judge Toll. So how are we right here
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  Speaker 2: right now? The former South Carolina Collington County Clerk of
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  Speaker 2: Court on the murder trial of Alex Murdog, Becky Hill,
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  Speaker 2: please guilty to showing sealed court exhibits to a photographer
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  Speaker 2: and lying about it in court. Judge Heath Taylor sentences
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  Speaker 2: Hill to three years probation, explaining our sentence with much
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  Speaker 2: harsher if it were ever proofs he tampered with the jury,
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  Speaker 2: that has not been proven.
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer Gould has the details.
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  Speaker 6: Nancy, the woman whose distinctive trembling voice delivered the guilty
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  Speaker 6: verdict that sealed Alex Murdo's fate, stood before a circuit judge,
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  Speaker 6: admitting she secretly handed a photographer the sealed, blood soaked
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  Speaker 6: photos of his slaughtered wife and son, then lied about
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  Speaker 6: it under oath. Former Collection County Clerk of Court Becky
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  Speaker 6: Hill fifty eight tearfully pleaded guilty to four felonies, two
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  Speaker 6: counts of misconduct in office, obstruction of justice, and perjury
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  Speaker 6: for slipping the graphic kennel crime scene images to media
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  Speaker 6: in twenty twenty three and swearing she never did it.
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  Speaker 6: During Murdo's failed bid for a new trial, Circuit judge
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  Speaker 6: Heath Taylor spared her a single day though behind bars,
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  Speaker 6: sentencing her instead to three years probation and one hundred
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  Speaker 6: hours of community service, stating, quote, your sentence would have
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  Speaker 6: been much harsher if we had found jury tampering end quote,
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  Speaker 6: Confirming the investigation cleared Hill of swaying the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 6: three jury that convicted Murda of murdering Maggie fifty two
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  Speaker 6: and Paul twenty two. The disgraced clerk's misconduct extended beyond
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  Speaker 6: the courthouse secrets. Hill also admitted to pocketing eleven thousand
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  Speaker 6: dollars in unauthorized county bonuses and exploiting her position to
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  Speaker 6: profit from her rushed out book on the case called
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  Speaker 6: Behind the Doors of Justice. Reading the guilty verdict made
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  Speaker 6: her famous. Leaking the photos and lying about it just
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  Speaker 6: made her a convicted felon.
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  Speaker 1: Flanked by her husband.
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  Speaker 6: And lawyer, Hill spoke to the court, Listen, there is.
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  Speaker 1: No excuse for our mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: I am ashamed of them, and I will carry that
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  Speaker 2: shame with me for the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 6: The conviction immediately drew fire from Murdoch's defense team. Attorney
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  Speaker 6: Dick Harpoutlian fired off a statement questioning the integrity of
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  Speaker 6: the jury tampering hearing, saying, quote, if Becky admittedly committed
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  Speaker 6: perjury in the jury tampering hearing, what else did she
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  Speaker 6: lie about?
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  Speaker 1: End quote?
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  Speaker 6: The disgraced legal sigh on fifty six is already serving
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  Speaker 6: life without parole for the murders and another twenty seven
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  Speaker 6: years for stealing millions from clients. His appeal reaches the
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  Speaker 6: South Carolina Supreme Court in February, and Hill's newly minted
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  Speaker 6: felony conviction is fresh potent ammunition for his defense. Hill
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  Speaker 6: walked out of the Calhoun County court room of felon
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  Speaker 6: but a free woman. As Murdochs fight rages on.
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  Speaker 1: The state's Attorney general is trying to hold that conviction.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote most of the appellate briefs on murder cases
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  Speaker 2: I tried, but the on murder cases the age would
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  Speaker 2: also write an amicas curity brief friend of the Court
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  Speaker 2: to bolster to go along with to partner with my brief.
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  Speaker 1: So I guarantee you the States.
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  Speaker 2: Brief asking the US the South Carolina Supreme Court to
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  Speaker 2: do what they want, is going to be in.
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  Speaker 1: Tandem with the prosecution brief. They don't want this case
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  Speaker 1: heard by the South Carolina Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 2: But what I'm asking you, Jennifer Wood, director of research
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  Speaker 2: at fitznews dot com, who threw out the investigation and
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  Speaker 2: the trial, isn't it true that the South Carolina Supreme
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  Speaker 2: Court has given Murdock's defense the okay to file briefs.
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  Speaker 1: They want to consider it. They have okay.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me again, an all star palell Regina Ward is
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  Speaker 2: a high profile lawyer, criminal defense attorney there in this jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 1: Of no South Carolina. And so it begins.
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  Speaker 2: Alex murdog is headed for a new trial because the
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  Speaker 2: Supreme Court did not have to say, yeah, I'll hear
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  Speaker 2: your argument. That is a big indicator of Regina of
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  Speaker 2: what the court's.
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  Speaker 1: Going to do. I think that that's a possibility. But
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  Speaker 1: the brief that they filed there were many, many more
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  Speaker 1: issues there.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was like one hundred and twenty something
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  Speaker 2: or one hundred and thirty pages, and so there's more
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  Speaker 2: just this issue. Of course, there were going on two
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  Speaker 2: hundred points raised by Hart Putlan or the new defense team.
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  Speaker 1: Of course there are Do they amount to a hill
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  Speaker 1: of beans?
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  Speaker 2: Probably not, But of course they're going to raise every
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  Speaker 2: possible issue. But the South Carolina Supreme Court is limited
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  Speaker 2: to the facts.
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  Speaker 1: In the transcript.
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  Speaker 2: If they are arguing factual issues or discrepancies, that's not.
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  Speaker 1: To be heard by the appellate court. They are hearing
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  Speaker 1: legal issues. This is what I.
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  Speaker 2: Think will likely be the single strongest case for Alex
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  Speaker 2: Murlock to get a new trial. And it all goes back.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought I'd have to say these words again to.
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  Speaker 1: The egg lady. Take a listen to her being questioned
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  Speaker 1: by the courts.
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  Speaker 5: Was your verdict based entirely on the testimony, evidence, and
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  Speaker 5: law presented to you in this case?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, did you hear miss Becky Hill make any
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  Speaker 2: comment about this case.
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  Speaker 1: Before you're verdict?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am?
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  Speaker 5: If yes, what did missus Hill say.
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  Speaker 3: To watch his actions?
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  Speaker 5: To watch his actions? What else?
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  Speaker 1: To watch them closely?
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  Speaker 5: To watch him closely?
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  Speaker 3: Anything else?
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  Speaker 5: You remember?
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  Speaker 2: There? It is? But I can't remember.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay.
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  Speaker 2: She's on the stand, the so called egg lady. And
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  Speaker 2: I was there when this happened. A jurar was dismissed
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  Speaker 2: because of alleged misconduct, and before she left the courthouse,
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  Speaker 2: she said she wanted to go back in the jury
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  Speaker 2: deliberation room and get the dozen eggs she had brought
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  Speaker 2: to court that day. That's how she got that name. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute. She's on the stand. Let me understand this.
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer wood Fitz News.
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  Speaker 2: She's on the stand to talk about everything the court
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  Speaker 2: clerk did wrong, Becky Hill.
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  Speaker 1: And the judge says, can you think of anything else?
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything else?
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  Speaker 2: She's under oath, sitting there prepared for this moment. She goes,
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  Speaker 2: there is, but I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Did she she did that? She did well? That didn't
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  Speaker 1: help the defense. But wait a minute. They make a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a comeback. Listen, was your verdict.
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  Speaker 5: Influenced in any way by the communications of the clerk.
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  Speaker 1: Of court in this case, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 5: And how was it influenced to me?
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  Speaker 1: It felt like she made it seem like he was
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  Speaker 1: already guilty.
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  Speaker 5: All right, and I understand that that's the tenor of
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  Speaker 5: the remark she made. Did that affect your finding of
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  Speaker 5: guilty in this case.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 2: So this is all about the clerk of court, Becky
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  Speaker 2: Hill writing a book.
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer wood Fitznie's explained.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I think, you know, like Virgina said, there
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  Speaker 7: are one hundred and thirty two pages of issues, but
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  Speaker 7: I think it's really going to come down to the
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  Speaker 7: clerk of court's behavior and or not things that she
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  Speaker 7: allegedly said futures during the course of the trial had
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  Speaker 7: an impact on their verdict. You know, the tutors said
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  Speaker 7: that she said before Alex Murdoch took the stand, watch
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  Speaker 7: his body language.
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  Speaker 3: One of those jurors.
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  Speaker 7: Flighty or not about it, said that that did impact
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  Speaker 7: her decision whether or not Alex was guilty or.
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  Speaker 2: In his n Maggie and Paul lose their lives, gunned
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  Speaker 2: down and the dog candle out in the middle of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: And guess who's on the scene. Alex Murdog.
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  Speaker 2: He claims he was at his mom's house a few
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  Speaker 2: miles away, but video and cell phone data a GPS
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  Speaker 2: data seemed to indicate he is nothing but a liar.
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  Speaker 2: Back to Becky Heel, the court clerk allegedly affecting the jury.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess Jennifer Woods is because the defense claims
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  Speaker 2: that she wanted a guilty verdict because her book sales
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  Speaker 2: would be greater and she would make more money.
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  Speaker 1: Is that their claim?
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  Speaker 7: That's one of their claims. And you know, I've always
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  Speaker 7: thought about that and thought, you know, I think the
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  Speaker 7: book would have been just as interesting, if not more so,
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  Speaker 7: if he was found not guilty. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 7: know if I necessarily buy that motivation, but yes, that
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  Speaker 7: is that is one of their theories.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I got to tell you something else, Jennifer Wood.
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  Speaker 2: Judge Jane told kind of handed this up, sorted up
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  Speaker 2: on a silver platter, because the judge comments on Baking
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  Speaker 2: Hill's credibility.
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  Speaker 1: Listen the facts, did Clark of court.
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  Speaker 5: He'll make comments to any jewel or which expressed her
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  Speaker 5: opinion of what the verdict would be. Miss Heill denies
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  Speaker 5: a and so the question becomes was her denial credible?
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  Speaker 5: I find that the clerk of court is not completely
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  Speaker 5: credible as a witness. Miss Hill was attracted by.
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  Speaker 1: The siren call of celebrity.
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  Speaker 5: She wanted to write a book about the trial and
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  Speaker 5: express that as early as November twenty twenty two, long
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  Speaker 5: before the trial began.
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  Speaker 2: So what does that mean in your mind, Jennifer Wood
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  Speaker 2: joining us from Fitz News. The odds are escalating that
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  Speaker 2: because of that one issue, and of course you've pointed
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  Speaker 2: out there are many more that have been raised by
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  Speaker 2: the defense, whether they amount to anything.
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  Speaker 1: Or not, that there will be a new trial.
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  Speaker 2: How would that happen? How would that be executed? Where's
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  Speaker 2: Murdoch right now?
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  Speaker 7: Murdoch is in the South Carolina Department of Corrections. He
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  Speaker 7: is serving his two life sentences that he received as
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  Speaker 7: a result of this verdict. They would you know, if
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  Speaker 7: they do agree with his attorneys, they will romanda for
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  Speaker 7: a new trial and we will start all over.
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  Speaker 2: After the so called egg Lady juror was dismissed.
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  Speaker 1: And remember, Jennifer.
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  Speaker 2: Wood, isn't it true that Becky Hee was the one
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  Speaker 2: that brought the attention of the court to the egg
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  Speaker 2: lady to get her dismissed from the jury.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, that's absolutely true. It involved a alleged Facebook post
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  Speaker 7: that she said she had seen in a local Facebook group.
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  Speaker 7: Nobody has ever seen that Facebook post. When she brought
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  Speaker 7: it to the judge's attention, she could not find it again.
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  Speaker 7: The post that she did ultimately end up finding was
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  Speaker 7: from the husband of somebody you know it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was from somebody with.
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  Speaker 7: The same name as her ex husband, in a different
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  Speaker 7: state and totally unrelated. So, I mean, I still have
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  Speaker 7: questions whether you know about this post?
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  Speaker 3: Where is it?
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  Speaker 1: Did it exist?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it was what ultimately part led to her dismissal.
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  Speaker 2: So does this so called egg lady have an axe
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  Speaker 2: to grind against the clerk Becky Wood?
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  Speaker 1: That aside.
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  Speaker 2: The issue is did the clerk affect the outcome of
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  Speaker 2: the verdict?
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  Speaker 1: Many legal legals like myself say it did not. But
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  Speaker 1: even the.
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  Speaker 2: Appearance of impropriety may be enough for Alex Murdog to
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  Speaker 2: get a new trial. Doesn't mean he's innocent h W
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  Speaker 2: l n O. But will that stop a new trial?
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  Speaker 2: In no way listen.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, what is her name?
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  Speaker 8: Maggie?
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  Speaker 4: Please hurry, We're.
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  Speaker 1: Getting somebody there to you man asking me these questions
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  Speaker 1: on closing down?
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  Speaker 8: Okay, is he moving out?
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  Speaker 3: Your son?
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  Speaker 1: I know he said that she was shot, but what
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  Speaker 1: about your son?
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  Speaker 9: Nobody, they're not even one. Name's Maggie Murdoch, Okay, and
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  Speaker 9: what's your son's first name?
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  Speaker 1: Is Paul carry Murdoch? Where they are dead?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, that's what.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it looks like. If there is a new
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  Speaker 2: trial for convicted killer lawyer Alex Murdock and the double
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  Speaker 2: murder of wife Maggie's son Paul, what will the defense
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  Speaker 2: do differently now.
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  Speaker 1: They've got the state's whole playbook for Pete's sake.
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  Speaker 2: Well, for one thing, they're going to attack the video
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  Speaker 2: taken by son Paul in the kennel the scene of
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  Speaker 2: the double murder, just minutes, maybe even seconds before gunfire
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  Speaker 2: rings out.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 8: One of the biggest issues hearing Alex Murda on a
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  Speaker 8: video on Paul Murdau's iPhone when they were down by
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  Speaker 8: the kennel, minutes before Paul and Maggie murder were murdered.
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  Speaker 8: By the time Alex claims he was not at the residence.
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  Speaker 8: Paul's iPhone was found right away, but it was locked.
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  Speaker 8: The phone was sent to the US Secret Service using
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  Speaker 8: digital forensic technology designed to bypass iPhone encryption. The Secret
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  Speaker 8: Service attempted to crack the passcode and failed. What finally
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  Speaker 8: unlocked the phone and contradicted Alex Murdau's alibi Paul Murda's
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  Speaker 8: birthday April fourteenth, nineteen ninety nine. The six digit passcode
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  Speaker 8: zero four one four ninety nine, phone unlocked, alibi crushed.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me is Chris McDonough, director Cold Case Foundation and
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  Speaker 2: former homicide detective.
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  Speaker 1: Chris question.
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  Speaker 2: They had to send Paul Murdoch's cell phone to the
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  Speaker 2: Secret Service using digital forensic technology to bypass iPhone encryption.
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  Speaker 2: They couldn't crack it, and finally they cracked it.
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  Speaker 1: It was Paul's day.
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  Speaker 2: Really, that's one of the very first one of the
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  Speaker 2: very first codes you try are various people close to
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  Speaker 2: the individual's birthdays.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Nancy, And what happens there nine out of ten
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  Speaker 4: times is just that point you just made common sense.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, let's try the first type of things first,
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  Speaker 4: i e. You know, birthday, social security numbers, etc. But
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  Speaker 4: in this case, they sent it off to the Secret Service,
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  Speaker 4: and what ends up happening is they actually put it
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  Speaker 4: in what they call a blank room, meaning they have
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  Speaker 4: an algorithm that kind of runs through this phone over
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  Speaker 4: and over and over again to try to make matches.
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  Speaker 4: And remember they did that years ago in the shooting
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  Speaker 4: in San Bernardino where they couldn't get into the suspects phone.
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  Speaker 4: So in this case they were unsuccessful and they sent
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  Speaker 4: it back and the SLED was able to get the
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  Speaker 4: data birth.
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  Speaker 2: In there to joining me direct research fits news, Jennifer.
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  Speaker 2: Why is the video on Paul Murdoch's phone so critical?
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  Speaker 2: The defense has to have it ruled out or attack
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  Speaker 2: it in some way.
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  Speaker 1: If they want to win the retrial.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that video is critical because it shattered his alibi.
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  Speaker 7: He said he was not down at those dog kennels,
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  Speaker 7: and when they got that phone open and saw that video,
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  Speaker 7: they realize he was lying.
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  Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct. They've got to be able to attack
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  Speaker 1: this video. Hey, let's see the video. Roll it, get it.
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  Speaker 2: Get that.
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  Speaker 1: Quick, guess Quinn.
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  Speaker 3: Sh push to get.
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  Speaker 2: Hey you got burdens now, blah, Hey, buba, it's a guinea.
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  Speaker 1: There's a chicken, come cash quick.
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  Speaker 2: You have to know what you're listening for, Jennifer Wood.
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  Speaker 2: The argument is made that you hear Alex Murdog on
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  Speaker 2: that video.
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  Speaker 7: That is the argument.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 7: I listened to Alex testify for two straight days and
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  Speaker 7: I heard that voice in the video. They are the
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  Speaker 7: same voice.
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  Speaker 2: And what is Alex Murndad saying? Because this is this
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  Speaker 2: is the point of the video. Paul Murdad, the murdered son,
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  Speaker 2: had a friend's dog in the kennel at the friend's
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  Speaker 2: requst The dog was going to be taken to the
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  Speaker 2: vet and it had some kind of a laceration or
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  Speaker 2: something or rash on its hind quarters or tail. So
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  Speaker 2: Paul and Maggie were out there in the kennels after
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  Speaker 2: she had been lured there by the way by Alex Murdad,
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  Speaker 2: and they're taking the video to send to the friend
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: to send to the vet.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: That's why they're there. And what is it you hear
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Murdog say in the background.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: So they had a dog named Bubba that had gotten
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: a hold of one of their either guineas or chickens,
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: and he's yelling at the dog trying to catch it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: You hear him say something about a guinea and then
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: say it's a chicken.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: You can hear him in the background, and I remember
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: you sitting there in court listening to murdog drone on
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and it really only got good.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: When he started snodding and crying on the stand. But
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: that said, that's his voice, and the jury believe it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Let's this is just what would you say a minute
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: or two before Maggie and Paul were shot at me?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: When he was saying that it's a chicken, it's a
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: guin me. Whatever he's saying. He had to have the
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: gun and the plan.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Ready to murder them, and you hear him talking to
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Maggie and Paul like everything's fine. Within minutes those two
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: were shot dead. Paul I believe was shot first. Maggie
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: went to go defend Paul. And if she was murdered.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: What is the time differential there?
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: I mean it, like you said, it is within minutes,
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: like three to five minutes. I can't remember the exact
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: exact time framebody. I mean we're talking minutes.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, that all starts here.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Paul dead, the son of Alex murdagg brutally gunned down
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: along with Maggie Alex Murnagu's wife. Where will the defense
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: go when a retrial occurs? They're going here attacking the
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: state's cell phone expert regarding Maggie's cell phone listen.
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: Part of Murdad's appeal of his murder conviction centers around
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: the testimony of cell phone expert witness Paul mcmanagal of
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: the Charleston County Sheriff's office. He testified about using his
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: darkened office as a lab and tossing an iPhone around
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: the room to see if the backlight would come on.
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: He kept no records, took no measurements, then testified as
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: an expert about what it would take to make the
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: backlight come on. The importance is the state, says Alec Murda,
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: based on his suburban GPS data drove by the area
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: Maggie's iPhone was located at nine oh eight pm, saying
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: Murdaw tossed the phone out of his vehicle as he
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: drove down the road, but Maggie's iPhone indicated her backlight
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: did not come on again after nine oh seven pm.
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: The argument is that if Murdoch passed the location at
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: nine o eight pm and tossed out the phone. The
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: backlight would have come on, but Maggie's iPhone didn't light
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: up again after nine oh seven pm.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Jennifer Wood, that's a lot of speculation on the defense part.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: But if they can get one jar to believe that
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Maggie's cell phone light, the lamp would have come on
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: when Murdog threw it out the window, and, by the way,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Murdog's navigation equipment on his suburban shows where he let
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the window down on the passenger side to throw the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: phone out, by.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: The way, as he was dashing to his mother's house.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: To create an alibi, they would have to convince a
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: jury that the phone absolutely would have turned on as
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: it was thrown out in that soft grass.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So tell me why this is so critical.
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: Well, if the last time it lit up was before
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: before he drove by that spot, then he wasn't the
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: one disposing of that phone, and somebody else was there.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Hello, Yeah, can you have to pay?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Think she's having then she can't call?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, do you know he's corect.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: The head and there's broad on the concerte and you
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: breathe out of her left here.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, you bring over here and out of her head.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, the other waiting for you, trying to
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: stand up.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: This all down again.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: No, I was holding her up.
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: Okay, she told me to loosen she's trying to use
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: her but then she fell back over.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: Do you guys know who she is here?
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: She worked for? Okay? Do you know he's never had
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: a stroke or anything before?
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Can you another death connected to the Murdog family, and
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Alex Murdog orchestrates an extensive and intricate plot to steal
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: the insurance money from Gloria Saderfield's family. I'm talking about
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: millions of dollars stolen, a deadly fall and about four
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: million dollars stolen by Murdog. Oh, what a tangled web.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: We weave another bombshell in the Murdach case. Joining me,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Jennifer wood fitz Niez, Jennifer. What's the latest in the
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Gloria Sadderfield case? Right?
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: So, Gloria Satterfield, the insurance company for that took Corey
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: Fleming and Alex Murdoch to federal court. That trial just
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: occurred and a jury ordered Alex Murdoch to pay fourteen
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: point eight million dollars in damages and his co conspirator
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: over three million dollars in damages, and.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: What we're talking about regarding a conspiracy. Gloria Sadderfield falls
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: down the steps at Murdoch's mansion. She dies, Then Murda,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I can correct me if I'm wrong. Jennifer wood murn
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: approaches Sanderfield's family and gets them to hire him to
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: represent them in an insurance claim.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Then proceeds to steal the money. Do I have that right, Jennifer.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: I have absolutely right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: He stole the bunny.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Joining me is doctor Kendall Crown's chief medical Examiner, Ter County.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: That's Fort Worth Esteemed, a lecturer at the Burnett School
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: of Medicine at TCU.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Doctor Kendall Crowns, thank you for being with us.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Explain to me what happened to Glorias Sanderfield. There have
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: been so many theories. She was pushed down the stairs,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: she tripped over dogs, there was a delay in reporting it,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: no assistance was made. But you hear son Paul Now
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: did and wife Maggie Now did on the phone with nine.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: To one one. So what were the injuries?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Why did she have to die from a slip and
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: fall or some some have called it a fake and fall.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: So, what she had was injuries to her head. She
• 28:07
  Speaker 10: had a laceration of her right side of her head,
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: She had a right sided subdural hemorrhage, which is a
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: hemorrhage on the brain, as well as injuries to the
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: brain itself. And then she had left sided rib fractures.
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: So there's some comment that she fell, or she tripped
• 28:24
  Speaker 10: over a dog, or she fell downstairs. The problem with
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: these injuries is a right sided laceration with a right
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: sided subdural is often from a blow to the head
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: and it's not from a fall. Usually what you're seeing
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: as a right side laceration with a opposite side subdural,
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: so it's not consistent. And then with the left sided
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: rib fractures. I mean, if she fell downstairs, there'd be
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: multiple injuries about the skin and body that would show
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: that she was tumbling downstairs resulting in all these injuries.
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: So the injuries are inconsistent with the story that's provided.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Wow, when you put it like that, it makes the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: fall seem very very nefarious, doesn't it. Doctor Guys joining me.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: In addition, to medical examiner, not just medical examiner, chief
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: medical examiner, doctor Kendall Crowns.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: It's a very special guest joining us.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Blanca Simpson, the Murdog's former housekeeper and friend of Gloria Saderfield. Blanca,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: what was your reaction when you learned Gloria had fallen
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: down those steep steps and died?
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: It was heartbreaking. She was a very nice lady. She
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: would do anything for you.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: And you two were fairly close, weren't you.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, While we were there, she would tell me about
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: her children, her life. She loved working for Maggie and
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Alex Bloka.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the days that preceded
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Maggie and Paul's murder. A few months before the murder,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I believe Maggie told you about a lawsuit that was
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: demanding around thirty million dollars. Now that lawsuit, of course,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: was the death of a nineteen year old girl, Mallory Beach,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: who was in a boat with Paul driving drunk, horribly drunk.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Maggie was worried about that money, wasn't she She was.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Worried about the money, and Alec knew it because when
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: the first time she ever mentioned they ever mentioned it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: It kind of hushed up right there at the counter
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: in the kitchen. And then after that, that's when I
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: came in that morning, probably a couple of days later,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: and I guess they had discussed it. I'm not sure,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: but that's when I came in and she said, I
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: got to tell you something, and that's when we went
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: in there and she finished telling me everything else. You
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: know that where were they going to get that money?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: They didn't have that kind of money, and she just
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: couldn't understand what was going on. And it wasn't that
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: she was trying to be that she was trying to
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: cover up anything. I listening to her, she really did
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: not know the total extent of the lawsuit. She didn't know.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: She knew bits and pieces, but she didn't know exactly
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: what was going on.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: But she was crying and upset and told you confidentially
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: that there was a multimillion dollar lawsuit against some are
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: like family because of that boat crash, and that they
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: didn't have that kind of money.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: That's correct. Alec didn't like any crying. I remember her
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: telling me that if he ever says anything and you
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: feel bad or he makes you feel bad, just don't
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: let him see you cry. So I I believe that's
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: why we went in that room, even though he was
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: there at the house, but he was all the way
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: on the other side, and when we went in there,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: she could express herself no judgment. I had no reason
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: to judge her. I just listened to her.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: So Maggie would have to walk off in another room
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: and shut the door so Murdoch would not see her cry.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't cry in front of him. That was
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: just one thing. Even if sometimes he would say something,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: we just you just don't don't cry in front of him.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: He didn't like that. It didn't you know, it wasn't
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: going to affect how he felt or whatever the situation was.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: So I do that was from the very beginning. I
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: remember when I first started working there, when Gloria was
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: still there. Even Gloria made that comment to me, What
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: comment about it? If he says anything that might hurt
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: your feelings, don't let them see you cry.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: What was Murdoch like to work for?
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: He was good to me? I never had an answer.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I can't. I know there's people that want me to
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: speak badly about him or say things. You know, as
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: far as when I work there. He was always he
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: was always very nice to me, anything that I needed, Milanka.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, I want you to understand that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to say anything other than the truth, because,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: believe me, I've seen plenty of killers, stone cold killers
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: that had everybody else charmed.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised at all. I mean, how do
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you think.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: He got all those bank loans for millions and millions
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: of dollars?
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: He charmed the bank into thinking that he could pay
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it all off.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: He charmed all of his clients and stole their money,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I agree, even clients that were quadchipelegics. So I would
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: not expect anything different because.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: He needed you, He needed you to see him in
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: a certain way. Now I'm curious.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Many people have told me, hey, that's not in evidence,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: that's not true.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: But isn't it true that the night.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Of the murders, Maggie told you she had been called
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: to the hunting lodge Mozille.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: She didn't want to go because she was at the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: beach house and didn't.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Want to leave yet, but Murdoch called her and convinced
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: her to come to Moselle the night she was murdered.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: She did and I have the text where she said
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: she didn't really want to go. I still have her
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: text on my phone.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Tell me what she said.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: She had workers at She still had workers out there
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: at the beach house, and she felt that she needed
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: to just complete all the finishing touches in you know
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: that that were there was still some little projects that
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: had to be completed at Edistone, and she just wanted
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: to be there. She was very like I said in
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: my testimony, she was very detailed oriented. It had to
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: be you know, perfect in her eyes, and that's one
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: of the reasons she wanted to be there. She knew
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: that I had Moselle and if anything came up, I
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: was at Moselle and she felt comforted. So I handled
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: pretty much, you know, Moselle, whatever came up, whatever needed
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: to be done. I took care of Moselle, and she
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: felt comfortable staying at Edistone and we just used to
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: talk and if she needed for me to take care
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: of anything, she would just give me a call or
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: text me. But that that on June the seventh, she
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: texted me that Alex wanted her to come home and
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Paul as well, and she and that was I meant
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: what I said? She was hesitant to come to Moselle.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: She didn't want to come to Moselle despite the fact, Yes,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: she did love mister Randolph. Mister Randolph was really good
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: to her, and.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: That would have been Alex Murdog's father. Is mister Randolph.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know I'm thinking about this call, the text
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: from Maggie at that time, Miss Simpson, did you have
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: any reason to suspect Alex Murdoch?
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yea crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Alex Murdog, double killer, convicted lawyer gets a new trial.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Is that where we're headed?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Joining me right now, Special Guests, Blanca Simpson, former housekeeper
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: for the Alex Murdock family, Blanca. Another critical point regarding
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: your perspective is that the night of the murders, but
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: just before Paul and Maggie were shot dead, you were
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: actually at the home at Maggie's request, and you made
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: supper right.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, I did.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And then the next morning you got a phone call
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: from Alex Murdogg.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Alex called me as I was getting my husband ready
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: to go to work that morning, and I was getting
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: ready as well to go out to Moselle and that's
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: when he tells me they're gone, being you know they're gone.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: And like I said in my testimony, I thought, I
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: was like, this should go back to edistone. She said no,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: being they're dead. And I still I can still hear
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: him repeatedly saying that in my head, you know they're dead.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: What was his demeanor? How did he sound?
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: He was jittery, crying, you know, having small episodes of crying.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: You know, you could tell he sounded distraught. I was
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: in shock.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: To tell you, the crew, Blanka, he asked you to
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: come clean the house up.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I know you found pots.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Of leftovers in the kitchen, but you've also noticed something
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: very odd about Maggie's pajamas.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: What her pajamas were in the middle of the doorway
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: going into the laundry room, which is usually the first
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: place that I went when I got there. I used
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: to drop off my keys in there and my phone
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: go straight in the laundry room. That morning, when I
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: walked through, I left all the lights off. I I
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: just walked in and it was just a cold, eerie
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: feeling that went through me. And it was just the
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: thought that, oh my god, you know, I still could
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: not grasp the concept that I was never going to
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: see them again, and you know I was never.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: When you're talking about her pajamas being laid out neatly
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: in a doorway, they also had with them underwear. Was
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: it were they laid out? What were they on the
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: floor or though they on a hangar? Where were they
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: they were on the floor. When you say laid out neatly,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: what do you mean.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Laid out flat, neatly? One on you it was like
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: the pants were spread out, laid out. Then you had
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: the underwear and then her pajama top stretched out on
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: top neatly. They weren't bold.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: We never have done that. Plus, she didn't wear underwear
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: to bed.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Right, That is correct. She didn't do that, and I
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: stand by that she did not do that. That was
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: not her.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Several weeks later, Alex Murda called you. Well, I actually
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: got together with you, and he was very agitated, pacing
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: back and forth asking you about what you remembered regarding
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the night Maggie and Paul were murdered.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: What did he ask you?
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: He was pacing back and forth in the living room,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: and he kept going back and forth. He said, sit down,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: be sit down. I got to tell you something. Something's
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: not right. And he said, I got a you know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I got a bad feeling. And he at that point
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: he motioned and he touched his stomach. He said, I
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: got a bad feeling. I got a bad feeling. And
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: then he says, you remember what I was wearing that day,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: you know, the Bennie Vines. And like I said, I
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: was kind of like, you know, no, that's not what
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: And I understand that people have said, well, Bennie Vines
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: also makes you know the fit. I should have described
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: it better on the stand when I said, no, you
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: weren't wearing the Vinnie Vines. He that Vinnie Vines also
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: makes the fishing star.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Was he wearing.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: He was wearing a sea foamy green polo shirt when
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: he left that house.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Well, you got a wind memory.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: So Jennifer Wood joining me direct to research fits news.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: That's critical because in these video that we're showing, the
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: video we're showing right now when the cops get there,
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  Speaker 2: he is wearing a Vineyard Vine's Vinnie Vine's T shirt
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  Speaker 2: that he was trying to convince Blanca to say he
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  Speaker 2: was wearing when she taught to him.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that so critical, Jennifer.
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  Speaker 7: You know it's just another another series. It's another lie
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  Speaker 7: in a web of flies.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, why.
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  Speaker 7: Why ask her to verify something that wasn't true?
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  Speaker 2: The odds are soaring that Alex murdog will have a
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  Speaker 2: new trial.
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  Speaker 1: Becky Hill, please guilty.
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  Speaker 9: Former Callington County Clerk of Mary Rebecca Becky Hill pleaded
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  Speaker 9: guilty to four charges obstruction of justice and perjury for
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  Speaker 9: showing a reporter photographs that were sealed court exhibits and
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  Speaker 9: then lying about it. There are also two counts of
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  Speaker 9: misconduct in office for taking bonuses and promoting through her
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  Speaker 9: public office a book she wrote. On the trial, judge
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  Speaker 9: Heath Taylor sentenced Hill two three years of probation. Hill
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  Speaker 9: was not convicted nor pleaded to tampering with Alex Murdall's
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  Speaker 9: jury trial. The judge told Hill the sentence would have
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  Speaker 9: been more harsh if investigators had found that she tampered
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  Speaker 9: with the jury. Hill read a short statement asking the
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  Speaker 9: judge for a chance to do better. Quote, there is
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  Speaker 9: no excuse for the mistakes I made. I'm ashamed of
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  Speaker 9: them and will carry that shame for the rest of
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  Speaker 9: my life. Hill's position put her in charge of taking
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  Speaker 9: care of the jury, overseeing exhibits, and helping the judge.
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  Speaker 9: During Murda's six week trial, The judge heard testimony that
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  Speaker 9: a journalist told investigators that Hill showed graphic crime scene
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  Speaker 9: photos to several media members. The photos were briefly posted online,
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  Speaker 9: and metadata from the images matched up with a time
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  Speaker 9: where Hill's courthouse key guard said she was there. The
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  Speaker 9: misconduct in the office charge involved money that investigators said
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  Speaker 9: Hill took for herself. She brought a check to the
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  Speaker 9: court to pay back nearly ten thousand dollars meant for
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  Speaker 9: bonuses from federal money meant to improve child support collection
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  Speaker 9: at about two thousand dollars in money from the Clerk
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  Speaker 9: of Court's office. Hill was also accused of seventy six
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  Speaker 9: counts of ethics violations. Officials said Hill allowed a photo
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  Speaker 9: of Murda in a holding cell to be taken to
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  Speaker 9: promote her book on the trial, and used county money
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  Speaker 9: to buy dozens of lunches for her staff, prosecutors, and
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  Speaker 9: a vendor. Hill's long awaited plea deal comes just before
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  Speaker 9: the South Carolina Supreme Court is scheduled to hear retrial
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  Speaker 9: arguments in the new year. In February, Murdo's defense team
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  Speaker 9: pointed to Hill's misconduct as evidence that jury integrity was compromised.
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  Speaker 9: Some legal pundits have expressed opinions that Hill's plea is
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  Speaker 9: not the strongest grounds for a retrial. Even if Murdall
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  Speaker 9: were granted a retrial, he would remain incarcerated due to
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  Speaker 9: his lengthy state and federal sentences related to his financial crimes.
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  Speaker 9: In a statement to Fox News, Murdall's defense attorney said, quote,
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  Speaker 9: the guilty plea is not surprising. More importantly, the agency
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  Speaker 9: expected to impartially investigate these charges has a vested interest
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  Speaker 9: in avoiding any outcome that would question the verdict of
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  Speaker 9: the initial Alex Murdall murder trial. If Becky admittedly perjured
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  Speaker 9: herself in the jury tampering hearing held by Judge Tole,
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  Speaker 9: what else could she have lied about?
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  Speaker 1: End quote.
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  Speaker 2: We wait as justice unfolds and the Alex Murnoch double
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  Speaker 2: murder case. Nancy Gray signing off, Goodbye friend,