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The bioenergetic bridge between medicine and Qigong · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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Welcome back to the Nurses Report.
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You're here with your host, Nurse Gail McCray.
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And as the per the usual, I am
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at it again, getting excited about all of
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the fringe, interesting, novel, exciting trends.
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They might not actually be novel, but in
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the mainstream, I sometimes they are.
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And today I have been pleased to have
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a co uh guest today join me.
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Uh Dr.
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Keith Coley, can I call you doctor?
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No, it wouldn't be accurate in any not
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even accurate there.
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I'm just just Keith, just Keith, yeah.
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Okay, as a Qi Gang master with over
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22 years of clinical experience and training uh
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at the Academy of Five Elements, acupuncture in
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Florida, he built a successful brick and mortar
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acupuncture clinic in Nashville, Tennessee.
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But today he runs a fully remote distance
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healing practice for uh in the mountains of
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North Carolina.
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Uh his main focus is medical qi gong,
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which as you know from watching my shows.
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Uh I am trained in a frequency modality
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called biofield tuning.
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And qigang is uh Chinese route of frequency
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healing based modalities.
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So there are similarities, there is overlap, and
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there is a very real uh tangible value
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to this work that I have found that
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Western healthcare systems tend to uh ignore and
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neglect.
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I went through all of nursing school and
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then 90% of graduate school, being told and
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convinced, although I never quite believed it, that
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Western medicine is the best that it gets.
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And uh being so sensitive as I was,
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I ended up always finding curative modalities in
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the alternative medicine uh framework.
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For instance, at 22, I got in a
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severe car accident, herniated the L5S1 disc in
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my back.
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I was referred to surgeons, they wanted to
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give me steroid injections, they told me to
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get surgery.
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I declined it all and ended up rehabilitating
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my spine through uh um rest pool work,
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uh supplements, very specific supplements to help re
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rebuild the cartilage.
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Um, and then long-term yoga and Pilates exercise
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type things, as well as acupuncture.
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So that was my first introduction to acupuncture,
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and lo and behold, I learned in that
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moment that not only did acupuncture help my
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spine heal, but it got rid of my
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migraines that I had been struggling with since
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the age of 13.
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So for the first time in my life,
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after failing through the pain clinic through Kaiser
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Permanente, uh two years I was getting lidocaine
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shots in the head, I was on prescription
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meds.
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I was a mess from these migraines, and
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I started developing side effects to the medications
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because I'm very sensitive to pharmaceuticals.
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So I could no longer take the prescription
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medications for migraines, and thank goodness I discovered
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acupuncture, and I've been using it ever since
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then.
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So for over 20 years, it has been
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the most effective treatment for my migraines.
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And I'm not gonna say that you know,
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every single acupuncturist that I've gone to has
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been able to address my migraines.
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I want the audience to really understand that
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every person is different, every patient is different,
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every practitioner is different, and over the last
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20 years that I've been seeing uh Chinese
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medicine doctors, I would say probably 60 to
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70% of them have been able to effectively
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treat my migraines.
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So that's probably 50 practitioners.
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60% of them, I would say, maybe maybe
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more, maybe 70, maybe 70% between 60 and
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70%.
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Um your work, Keith goes way beyond that,
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and I'm so excited to have you on
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here today to really start peeling back more
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of the layers to this onion of healing
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because myself and all of my colleagues were
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constantly told, you know, Western medicine is the
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best.
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La la la la la la la.
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And I told you one experience of mine
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from 20.
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I've had several since then.
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Uh, we spoke before the call, there was
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an autoimmune reaction that I had.
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I also resolved uh IBS in my 20s
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through um all different kinds of alternative type
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modalities, and so over the years, I've just
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become more and more drawn to them, which
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is why I got certified as a biofield
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tuner and started going down the path of
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frequency because I've come to understand through studying
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physics and fascia and plasma that our physical
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bodies are one part to this puzzle, and
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the other part is our energy body or
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our spirit body.
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And if we don't address the root causes
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of our illness and diseases through those systems,
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the physical body is just gonna continue to
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manifest disease.
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So, welcome, Keith.
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Thank you for enduring that long introduction.
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Um, but I'm so excited to have you
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here, and I would love to hear, since
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we come from such different backgrounds, a little
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bit more about your background.
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What brought you into the work you do?
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I uh, as I said before we started
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I uh as I said before we started
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recording, I was married to uh a woman
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recording, I was married to uh a woman
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who went through uh physician assistant school in
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who went through uh physician assistant school in
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Nashville, Tennessee at Triveca.
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Nashville, Tennessee at Triveca.
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And so she had migraine headaches and endometriosis
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And so she had migraine headaches and endometriosis
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from day one.
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from day one.
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And her dad was one of the pioneers
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And her dad was one of the pioneers
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of functional medicine.
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of functional medicine.
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It was called environmental medicine back in the
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It was called environmental medicine back in the
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day, but he would have been called a
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day, but he would have been called a
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functional medical doctor now, and nothing was working.
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functional medical doctor now, and nothing was working.
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We were going to St.
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We were going to St.
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Louis, Missouri, to a um neurologists, and I
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Louis, Missouri, to um neurologists, and I mean
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mean every and just they just couldn't get
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every and just they just couldn't.
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they could not drug her enough to get
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it right.
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And so we were living in Springfield, Missouri,
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not far from where I grew up, and
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I had a lady.
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Uh a friend of mine said he goes,
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You should go see a lady named Blaise
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Malone in town.
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I said, Well, what does Blaze do?
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Well, she's an acupuncturist.
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So I mean, I'll do anything.
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You know, so took her there, and within
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like two or three sessions, the migraines were
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dramatically different.
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And within, I don't know, not many months,
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the endometriosis symptoms that were all coming down,
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and she was the best she'd ever been.
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That's including her being on Lupron, which for
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your folks out there who don't know it,
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she was basically in a false menopause.
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Yes.
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For months, trying to starve all the endometrium
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just going everywhere.
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And so since it worked so well, I
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was blown away.
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I'd always had an interest in uh martial
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arts and energetics, and I did not grow
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up in any background like that at all.
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I grew up in a cow town of
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5,000 people.
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There was nothing of the kind available to
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me in that town, but I was drawn
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in that area.
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So she goes, Well, you should check out
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my daughter who just graduated from a school
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in in southern Florida called the Academy for
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Five Ellen Butt Acupuncture.
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You should go talk to her because she's
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fresh out of the program, she's setting up
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practice.
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So I did.
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And then she became my practitioner because I
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was like, Well, I've got some stuff.
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You know, would you would you um if
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you can do that with her?
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Can you what can you, you know?
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And so it was from that experience, it
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was like, oh, I could feel it, like
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there's a doorway.
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I didn't know that was gonna be the
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final destination, but it was a doorway I
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wanted to walk through so I could at
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least have some foundation.
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And and I chose that school because Beth
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told me, she goes, you know, there's we're
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not TCM.
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I said, What do you mean?
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She goes, Well, TCM means traditional Chinese medicine,
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and that's not what this is.
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This is Worslian, which is a British gentleman
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from Lemington Spa, England.
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Yeah, he's from Limiting Spa who came to
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the States.
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And so his viewpoint was during the communist
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revolution, Mao bastardized and watered down and homogenized
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Chinese medicine because those are family traditions.
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He goes, No, no, no, no.
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Uh, Mao's like, we need to make it
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very systematic.
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We'll base it on Chinese herbology, the needling,
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and make it formulaic.
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Yes.
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That's TCM, folks.
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And this is why you're gonna find that
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some practitioners aren't all that great as technicians,
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and I'll explain what I mean by a
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technician in a minute.
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It's because if they're coming from this formulaic,
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well, here's the symptomatic pattern, and we have
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the remedy, which are these points every time.
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That's not that's not holistic medicine.
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That's the Western model.
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So TCM is actually a westernized version of
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Chinese medicine.
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It's not about who's in front of me.
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It's about, oh, you have these symptoms, therefore
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we do this.
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Well, no, that's not acupuncture.
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And so the school I was going to
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was the attempt of a gentleman from from
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Lemmington Spa, England, going, This happened.
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How can we retrieve the pieces of the
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old ways of doing it and and kind
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of bring it together under one roof?
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And he did his best job at doing
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that.
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And so that's where I went to school,
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and that put in my head the value
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of assessing who you have in front of
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you and how they are in experiencing the
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world through their lenses, and that changes everything
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about their bioenergetic structure because this right here,
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all these meridians, okay, this framework, that is
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what's happening when you're forming in your mother's
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womb, that's already there.
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It's a scaffolding.
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And everything else is it's a like a
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wire framing, right?
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That you do paper mache over, think of
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it like that if it helps.
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But everything is then unfolding, all the biochemistry
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is starting to unfold around that energetic framework.
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So is working at a biochemistry level uh
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can it be advantageous?
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Depends on the circumstances.
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I would say yes, absolutely.
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But if you don't address the bioenergetic framework,
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you're missing the foundational piece of it, and
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that's really who you are.
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And so good Chinese medicine, good energetic work,
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period, is going to address the bioenergetic framework,
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knowing that if we get that aligned, then
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we're going to end up with the bio,
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the physicality starting to change how it's presenting.
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And that's what I took from my education
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there, because as you know, you come out
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of your education, you're like, okay, what am
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I what am I gonna do in the
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world of this education?
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You know what they told us at school?
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We've made sure that you don't hurt anybody.
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Yeah.
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I said, that's what you're sending me away
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in the world with is that I won't
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hurt anybody.
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That's all we can promise you.
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I'm like, holy cow.
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So for me, I had a another many
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doorway, well, actually, I'd call it a major
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doorway within the first doorway.
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While I was at school, they would fly
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in different people from around usually the continent
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to come and teach for two or three
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week intensives.
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And those people would go back home to
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their practices.
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And so one guy came down from Boston,
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Massachusetts, his name was Paul Fraser, and Paul
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had graduated from there five years earlier, and
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his story is fantastic.
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I I won't tell it all here, but
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needless to say he had cancer, a rare
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bone cancer at 13 and it came back
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at 19, and it was Chinese medicine, and
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in particular a man named Tom Tam, who
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came from China as a political refugee and
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set up shop in downtown Chinatown in Boston,
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and Paul was drawn to him and Tom
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helped him to finally heal.
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Wow.
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And it set him on the path of
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Chinese medicine and martial arts, uh specifically Tai
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Chi Chuan, and not just as a health
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form, but as an actual martial art form
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as it was initially intended to be.
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He comes down and teaches us, and he
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starts doing things that were not in the
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curriculum that were considered to be not possible.
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And and I'm like, dude, what are you
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how you doing that?
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Yeah.
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You know, and we hit it off really
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well, like long lost brothers.
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And so he said, Well, you know, and
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he was leaving, he goes, Well, if any
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of you ever want to come study with
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me in Boston, just let me know, we'll
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try to get get our schedules together, and
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you can just come stay with me for
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a week and I'll teach you stuff.
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I'm like, afterwards, I said, dude, uh, I
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don't have any money, I'm broke after this.
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But if I can scrape together, I'm coming,
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Scrape together, I'm coming.
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how much is it going to cost me
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How much is it going to cost me
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to study with you?
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to study with you?
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He goes, your plane ticket and a rental
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He goes, your plane ticket and a rental
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car.
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car.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So you're not going to charge me?
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So you're not going to charge me?
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He goes, nah.
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He goes, nah.
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Oh.
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Oh, I mean, okay, that sounds crazy, but
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I mean, okay.
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That sounds crazy, but oh, okay.
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oh, okay.
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So I did that.
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So I did that, and that opened the
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And that opened the other door into what
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other door into what Chinese medicine really was.
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Chinese medicine really was.
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And what the old school practitioners, some of
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And what the old school practitioners, some of
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them, learned how to do, and that's what
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them learned how to do.
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separates in my mind.
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And that's what separates in my mind a
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technician from a real practitioner.
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Right.
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And because a technician, and there's great technicians,
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boy, they they can they can pull the
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craziest stuff out of pulse pictures and looking
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at your tongue and the coloring around the
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face and the sound of the voice and
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the emotion that's that's most pervasive when you
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speak, and and they do that really well,
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and they can pull amazing, miraculous assessments.
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And they know exactly where to figure out
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where you need the acupuncture points going, what
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formula herbal formula they're gonna tailor in there.
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I mean, they're really good technicians, they're great,
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better than I am as a technician.
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Right.
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But they're not practitioners, right?
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Because they don't develop their chi.
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And you have two things in the development
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as an energetic practitioner from the old school
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model.
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One is your yi, your Yi.
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That is your heart mind collective that is
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focused.
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There are people who really are great at
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honing their ye.
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You can feel it when they talk to
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a room of people.
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You can feel how that gathers their consciousness
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into, I mean, they've got you, and it's
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an amazing ability.
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And that's known here in the States, you
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know, that that they may not call it
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ye, but people know when you feel it.
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Right.
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The second thing that's not so well known
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here, even though people think they do, but
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they usually don't, is your qi.
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And how to cultivate qi is the secret
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sauce that many of those far east cultures
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are like, we're not gonna give that to
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you.
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Yeah.
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You know, you people would fly over and
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train with them.
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Yeah, we'll take your money.
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We'll teach you everything but this.
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Right.
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And so you'd come back with good stuff,
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but you wouldn't have the secret sauce.
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Yeah.
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That's so interesting.
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Can I ask you?
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Uh I'm from the West Coast, and I
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don't know if you're familiar with the Qi
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Gung school that used to, it I don't
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believe it's any longer functioning, but uh, they
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were operating near Monterey or um uh south
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of San Francisco.
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Do you have names?
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I don't remember the name of the school.
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I I had a good friend who went
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there for training, but uh I received some
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work there because as a student, they would
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have they would have people come in clinical,
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sure specialized in cancer.
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Uh the founder of the school, uh I
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don't know how many, but it was hundreds,
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if not thousands of people in stage three,
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stage four cancer that he cured through his
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use as a practitioner in medical qi gang.
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Yep.
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And at the time I was in my
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early 20s, I was in nursing school or
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doing prerequisites, one of the two.
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And that was after my spinal injury.
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So that was one of the things that
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I you know experimented with uh to you
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know, try and find the truth, right, along
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the path of healing, and it was transformational
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during the session when I was on the
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table.
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I physically felt alignment, you know, like some
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there was a spine aligned, and it was
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an issue that I'd been having, I don't
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remember for how long, but um it's hard
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to walk away from an experience like that
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and not know the power of the work
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that you do.
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Uh and so I've even you know when
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I went through the medical training modalities, and
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they're like, you know, this is as good
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as it gets.
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I was like, uh that hasn't been what
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my experience has taught me.
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And so I keep coming back.
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So yeah, I'm I was curious if you
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had ever heard of that school.
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I bet you know the founder, you know
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of him.
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Yeah, I was gonna say if you gave
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me a name, it might ring a bell.
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Paul probably would for sure, because Paul no
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longer lives in Boston, he lived in North
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Carolina for quite a while.
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Yeah, and then he moved to Santa Barbara,
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and and and our and our collective, um
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he and I have this one teacher that
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he introduced me to 22 years ago, 23
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years ago, and whose name is um uh
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Master Owen Wei, and he lives up in
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Fairfield, California, and he used to live in
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San Francisco for years.
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Okay, that might be the guy because the
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San Francisco is about but he never had
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a clinic though, he never had a clinic
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like that.
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Okay, I don't think he had a tiny
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office that he would treat people, but he
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wasn't training people, didn't have students to go
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through in that way.
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And it is, I mean, it's California, it's
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the West Coast.
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I mean, that is the hotbed of where
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the secret sauce would sometimes make its way
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through.
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Yeah, it made it, I think it did
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make its way through with that through that
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school.
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Absolutely.
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Um gosh, it's a secret sauce.
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So how did you develop the secret sauce?
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Well, Paul he showed me a few things
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at his house to get me started, and
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he taught me a particular form from Master
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O called Pongu Shungong.
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So Ponggu is the name, the monotheistic name
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for God in Chinese culture.
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The creation myth name for God is Ponggu.
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Shun, S-H-E-N is spirit, and gong, G-O-N-G, is
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to work.
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So you have God spirit work if you
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want to break it down.
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And that form he goes, do this.
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He goes, This is the deepest qi gong
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form I know of, and I've studied around
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the world, and I know over 40 forms.
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He goes, This right here for deep healing
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in every way you can imagine.
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He goes, nothing touches this, or I would
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tell you.
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Because he's practical like him, but what works,
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you know, like I love Master O.
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Um, and I've you know, I've known him
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for years, but I'm always about what works,
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what tool fits the moment that's gonna get
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the job done, and in that way I'm
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a terrible student because I have no allegiance
20:50
beyond does it work?
20:53
Right, you know, and and but I mean
20:55
that secret sauce was amazing because Paul studied
20:57
with Tom Tam, who initially said, Oh, you
20:59
know, your body's not healing from the surgeries
21:00
Said, oh, you know, your body's not healing
21:00
and so on because uh it's you know
21:01
from the surgeries and so on because uh
21:02
he gave him all the reasons, and so
21:03
it's you know he gave them all the
21:04
reasons.
21:04
he studied with Tom and Tom, he goes,
21:05
And so he studied with Tom and Tom,
21:06
Tom got me back to where I wasn't
21:07
he goes, Tom got me back to where
21:08
gonna have cancer again.
21:08
I wasn't gonna have cancer again.
21:10
He goes, but I didn't know how deeply
21:10
He goes, but I didn't know how deeply
21:12
I hadn't been healed until I worked with
21:12
I hadn't been healed until I worked with
21:14
Mastro.
21:14
Mastro.
21:17
Because it's one thing to make tumors go
21:17
Because it's one thing to make tumors go
21:19
away, and that's don't get me wrong, it's
21:19
away, and that's don't get me wrong, it's
21:21
amazing to have tumors just shrink up.
21:21
amazing to have tumors just shrink up.
21:23
You're like, what?
21:23
You're like, what?
21:25
Right.
21:25
Right.
21:25
But it's another thing for the treatment to
21:25
But it's another thing for the treatment to
21:27
penetrate down in
21:28
penetrate down in to the person to go
21:31
to the foundational reason of why the cancer
21:33
ever began at all.
21:37
Right.
21:37
And that isn't always the same thing.
21:41
Um in fact, you know, a thicker, heavier
21:44
energy might be the greatest thing to take
21:46
a tangible tumor and shrink it down, but
21:49
to go into the emotional neglect that took
21:52
place when that person was four years old
21:55
that stayed with them their whole life that
21:57
eventually turned and manifested into the tumor or
22:00
tumors, it may not reach that.
22:03
It's like water permeating through the ground into
22:05
the deepest levels.
22:06
If it's a thicker viscous, you know, like
22:08
if it's like syrup, it's only gonna go
22:10
down so far through the surface of the
22:12
earth, and it'll stop.
22:15
But if it's really fine, beautiful, delicate water,
22:17
it's gonna penetrate all the way down to
22:19
the water table.
22:21
And so you it depends on what you're
22:24
cultivating for on what the exercise is going
22:26
to do for you.
22:28
I call it energetic software, and a good
22:31
practitioner understands how to create that.
22:33
We're all creating software, but most people are
22:36
doing it unconsciously and quite chaotically.
22:39
I don't understand why my wife, my wife,
22:41
well, that would be my ex-wife.
22:44
I don't understand why my life is so
22:46
chaotic.
22:50
And that would be because you're more than
22:53
likely you're creating continual software in order to
22:56
create continual chaos.
23:00
Chaotic software gives you chaos in your life.
23:04
And working with clients, including my ex-wife who
23:07
was on my mind when I said that.
23:11
Um that is it it's what we all
23:13
do if you don't end up addressing the
23:16
chaos that's inside.
23:19
And so the software that you want to
23:21
be creating has alignment, has coherence more and
23:22
more.
23:24
I mean, nobody's gonna get it perfectly.
23:25
Yeah, and I'd be the first to say,
23:27
I am far from anybody you should look
23:28
to to go, he's got it all figured
23:30
out.
23:31
That is not me.
23:33
It's not me.
23:34
I I teach only because I'm like, look,
23:35
here's the deal.
23:36
I'm 55, this is life, this is what's
23:38
going on in my life, what I've experienced.
23:40
These are the things I've adopted, created, co-created
23:43
to help me to be more co more
23:45
coherent and healthier in every way you can
23:47
imagine that.
23:50
Would you like to hear about it?
23:52
Right.
23:52
And that's it.
23:54
And there's profound impacts in the work that
23:57
you do.
23:59
And that's the part of this.
24:01
It's like doing this kind of frequency work.
24:04
It's not that I have to be any
24:07
kind of aligned person or that I have
24:10
something that somebody else has, I don't.
24:13
Like my life is just as crazy, and
24:17
you know, I've had just as much, you
24:20
know, background, you know, energetic trauma, whatever's the
24:24
next person, you know, within the varying scales.
24:28
It's just that it's it's just that doing
24:32
these work, these types of this type of
24:35
work gives us the stabilization and the coherence
24:39
of the field to allow the body to
24:43
restore itself back to blueprints.
24:47
I like to put it like that.
24:49
I love that.
24:49
I love the blueprint part.
24:51
I I really love that because that energetic
24:53
blueprint is crucial to understanding what I mean,
24:55
you know.
24:58
For instance, I mean, I obviously don't have
24:59
all of my stuff figured out because I
25:00
have a scar on my hand, which you
25:02
can't see in this camera.
25:03
I have a scar running here that I
25:05
did with a hacksaw when I was about
25:07
six years old in the basement when I
25:09
shouldn't have been holding a hacksaw.
25:12
And I I I mean, you and I
25:14
both know those cells have been replaced how
25:16
many times in 50 years?
25:19
And your body still holding on to it.
25:21
Right, because that pattern still says, Well, that
25:24
imprint is still it has distorted my original
25:27
blueprint extraction, the matching, it's not there.
25:30
And so those are the type of things
25:33
we're talking about, and so it depends on
25:36
what experiences you've had to have those aha
25:38
moments to go, oh, that's closer to what
25:41
alignment feels like.
25:45
And if you can anchor into those, then
25:47
you're able to hearken back to the blueprint
25:50
better.
25:52
Right.
25:53
And and I've heard people say, you know,
25:54
don't ever listen, you don't need any teachers,
25:56
you don't need anybody to show you, it's
25:58
all within you.
26:00
And I'm like, oh, that is a beautiful
26:03
statement, but not exactly accurate because sometimes people
26:06
are further along in understanding what parts of
26:09
alignment you might need.
26:12
They're already there to hold that beacon for
26:13
you.
26:15
And even when you're in their presence, like
26:17
I was with Paul that first time, I
26:19
started to entrain to the things that he
26:21
had done better than I because he had
26:23
more time working at it and diligent.
26:25
And I realized when I was in his
26:27
presence, I could start to feel the alignment,
26:29
and trainment with his field, and I was
26:31
able to do things all of a sudden
26:33
I wasn't before.
26:35
I anchored into that and said, Well, I'm
26:38
never gonna forget that, and I'm gonna take
26:40
that with me back to Missouri where I
26:42
was living at the time, and I'm gonna
26:44
go back to that and access that state
26:46
over and over again till it's mine, my
26:48
version of that.
26:51
So, yeah, do I do things the way
26:52
Paul does?
26:55
Sort of, but a lot of ways, no,
26:57
not at all, because I had to figure
26:59
out how to use those tools and that
27:01
software for me, and I rewrote the software
27:03
for me.
27:06
And that's what I tell my students.
27:07
I'm like, I'm teaching you things.
27:09
Some of you, some of it you're gonna
27:10
love, you're gonna use it, others you're gonna
27:11
just dismiss and go, it doesn't work for
27:12
me.
27:13
I don't like it, it doesn't feel right.
27:15
And the ones that you keep, you're going
27:18
to end up rewriting those to some degree
27:20
for how it works better for you.
27:23
And that's what you should do.
27:25
Right.
27:25
And and and that's to me, that's what
27:28
teaching and entrainment give a person is how
27:30
to become your own conscious software programmer of
27:33
your life.
27:36
Right.
27:37
We just have to have the openness to
27:40
accept things are possible that are outside our
27:42
realm of understanding.
27:45
That's the hard part, you know.
27:47
I think a lot of us who are
27:49
trained in the the modalities that I come
27:52
from, you know, we have been so uh
27:54
we've been so rutted into this pathway of
27:57
of hierarchical medicine with Western medicine being the
28:00
best.
28:00
Medicine with Western medicine being the best.
28:02
It's like I would hear those stories, and
28:02
It's like I would hear those stories, and
28:05
I remember feeling the spirit of this, like,
28:05
I remember feeling the spirit of this, like,
28:07
oh, they say they're curing cancer, but that's
28:07
oh, they say they're curing cancer, but that's
28:10
a farce, right?
28:10
a farce, right?
28:13
Like that's the mindset that we're we're up
28:13
Like that's the mindset that we're we're up
28:15
against as Western practitioners.
28:15
against as Western practitioners.
28:18
That's yeah, it's it's considered woo woo.
28:18
That yeah, it's it's considered woo-woo.
28:22
And but then when you actually allow yourself
28:22
And but then when you actually allow yourself
28:24
to consider the possibilities of what's outside of
28:25
to consider the possibilities of what's outside of
28:27
what
28:28
what you're being taught.
28:31
Like, for instance, in the last 10 years,
28:35
I have probably met 20 practitioners that cure
28:39
cancer on a regular basis, stage four cancers.
28:44
Sure.
28:46
And you know, it's hard.
28:47
We can't talk about this stuff too much
28:49
on mainstream because a lot of people aren't
28:52
ready to hear it.
28:54
But you can get in trouble as a
28:56
practitioner if you're claiming that and you have
28:59
a license.
29:02
Yeah.
29:03
But this is my invitation.
29:05
Consider you know, consider the possibilities.
29:08
How many, you know, do you know how
29:11
many people that you have helped along this
29:14
path of recovery from cancer.
29:18
My most successful ones are the ones where
29:19
I teach them how to cultivate the qi
29:21
for themselves.
29:23
I'll give you an example.
29:24
Um, I I use her often because she's
29:26
been my best client in 22 years.
29:29
I'll tell her a story.
29:30
I won't give her a name, but um
29:32
she is uh from another country originally, and
29:34
I like to think that where she came
29:36
from might have helped set the framework for
29:38
her to be maybe a little more open.
29:40
But she also had friends from the same
29:42
country who live here who said, Go see
29:44
call Keith up because she had stage four
29:46
cancer, started the breasts, and then went everywhere
29:47
but her brain.
29:49
I've got the scans.
29:51
You look at the scans, you're like, holy
29:52
cow.
29:53
Wow.
29:54
Everywhere.
29:55
Yeah.
29:56
And I said, All right.
29:57
She goes, I don't want to die.
29:59
I said, okay.
30:00
I said, uh you're going to be an
30:01
active participant.
30:03
In fact, you're going to be even more
30:05
active than I am by a long shot,
30:07
because otherwise, even if I were to cure
30:08
your cancer and you don't work on the
30:10
underlying part, and I don't teach you how
30:12
to take care of that, I'm making you
30:14
dependent on me to keep coming back.
30:16
Right.
30:16
And I I give the bike bicycle analogy
30:18
to tell you how I work with people.
30:20
I try to get them to do this.
30:23
I say your health is a bicycle.
30:25
And I'm good at putting you on the
30:27
bike and going, This is the direction, this
30:29
is the path you should be riding on,
30:30
not the one you're on.
30:32
That's got bad momentum for staying around, obviously,
30:34
or you wouldn't be where you are.
30:37
Let's go this direction.
30:38
Then I'm going to give you this really
30:40
huge number of pushes.
30:42
All those treatments are big shove.
30:44
And you're going to start learning how to
30:46
pedal that bicycle on your own.
30:47
And that way I can take my hands
30:49
off the bike and I'll never have to
30:51
push you again if you'll do your part.
30:54
This lady is the best example I have
30:56
because she did it better than anybody I've
30:58
ever suggested this to.
31:00
I said, do it.
31:02
She was an injun, she is an engineer
31:03
in the car industry.
31:05
Wow.
31:06
She was working 40 hours a week on
31:07
death's door.
31:09
The chemo wasn't getting it done.
31:11
The doctors are like, it's not really working.
31:14
We're not sure what to do for you.
31:16
And so she started working with me, and
31:19
I was treating her twice.
31:21
If I hope I remember this correctly, she
31:22
sees it, she may correct me.
31:24
I think for the first few weeks I
31:25
was treating her twice a week, which really
31:27
could have been more.
31:29
But I said, you don't have to do
31:31
more with me if you'll do at least
31:33
three or four hours collectively, waking in the
31:35
morning, going to bed at night of this
31:37
qigong from I'm going to teach you.
31:40
Three or four.
31:41
She was doing five to seven.
31:44
She would come home from work and go,
31:45
love you, husband, disappear in the other room,
31:46
is the way I understand and remember the
31:48
story.
31:50
And she would crank out five to seven
31:53
hours of qigong almost every night.
31:56
She goes in for her, you know, her
31:58
blood work and the scans again eventually, and
32:00
they're like, um, all your markers are better
32:02
and your tumors are shrinking.
32:04
Yeah.
32:06
And there's another one, and another one.
32:08
And but in the reason, and I and
32:09
I I still treat her once a week.
32:11
She goes, I just like to keep you.
32:12
I'm like, hey, your call, I mean, if
32:14
you that's what makes you feel better, I'm
32:15
fine with that.
32:17
I understand.
32:18
And because she's still working in an industry
32:19
that's really hard.
32:22
It's a tough industry.
32:23
And so I told her, I'm like, if
32:26
you'll just keep doing your part, if you'll
32:28
just keep pedaling your bicycle, you will live
32:31
a long and healthy life.
32:34
But that's I think for me, that's the
32:36
one thing I tell my clients, I suggest
32:39
strongly, that I don't always hear some of
32:41
my peers do.
32:44
But you know why though?
32:45
I think even if they know how to
32:46
how to teach people to do it, they
32:48
they know that it's really hard to get
32:50
people to do it.
32:52
People will take a pill, they'll even take
32:54
supplements, it's the same thing.
32:56
Um, they might go for a walk, change
32:57
their exercise a little bit, change their eating
32:58
habits a little bit.
33:00
But to tell them to move their hands
33:03
in an easy way, um, for uh a
33:05
considerable period of time a day, they're like,
33:07
Are you crazy?
33:10
I'm like, Well, how do you think I'm
33:11
doing what I'm doing?
33:12
I am not special.
33:14
I grew up in a tiny town of
33:15
Missouri.
33:16
I was not born in some Buddhist community,
33:18
and my parents were, you know, the that
33:20
is not my life.
33:22
I'm a cowtown Midwest dude.
33:24
That's it.
33:26
I only can do what I do because
33:27
I have the proper tools, and I'm here's
33:29
the key part.
33:31
I'm diligent.
33:33
Yeah, absolutely.
33:35
Be diligent.
33:36
Yeah.
33:36
I think a lot of this too comes
33:39
down to uh you said, you know, most
33:41
people don't have the willingness to do the
33:43
work for themselves at home.
33:46
And when we really look into that, I
33:47
love to touch on this because I think
33:49
it's so important.
33:50
When we really look at why, why don't
33:53
people have what it takes to do that
33:55
work for themselves, then we end up along
33:58
this path of like, you know, self-love, failure
34:00
to love self, self-esteem, not believing that you
34:03
know, we have it within us to heal.
34:06
There are all of these lingering components of
34:09
the psychology behind, like, why is it that
34:12
you know we demonize each other's modalities and
34:15
we call each other crazy and we don't
34:18
put in the work uh to do this.
34:21
And I I constantly have to just keep
34:24
coming back to looking inwards and finding out
34:28
why is it that we won't do that
34:32
work and transforming that into our action forward.
34:36
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34:38
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34:41
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All right, welcome back.
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We are having such an awesome conversation.
37:33
Keith Coley is a Qigong master and has
37:36
founded a couple of acupuncture clinics, but now
37:40
does all of this remote work just before
37:43
the break, we were discussing his work in
37:47
relationship to cancer because that's such a big
37:50
one for everyone in this world, especially considering
37:53
what's been going on since all of these
37:57
injections and cancers returning and things called turbo
38:00
cancers entering our realm.
38:04
Uh, I wanted to really just uh delve
38:07
deeply into this for the audience so that
38:11
we can start to develop tools for addressing
38:15
these issues that we might have formerly thought
38:19
of as taboo or non-functional.
38:23
So with that in mind, I want to
38:27
really uh welcome you into the understanding of
38:30
the importance of frequency.
38:34
So one of my favorite ways to consider
38:37
this impact, uh I I think we were
38:40
talking off air about this as a nurse.
38:44
I came into the entry into uh frequency
38:47
medicine medicine when I read uh Eileen McCusick's
38:50
book, which is called Electric Body Electric Health.
38:54
And I was so flabbergasted by the information
38:57
that I went and received a session, and
38:59
that's after that it was transformative for my
39:02
personal life.
39:04
Uh and I, and then I started studying
39:08
it and realized how much we have neglected
39:11
the physics of matter in terms of the
39:15
human biofield.
39:19
And uh that's something that has really grabbed
39:23
on to me when um I've I started
39:27
developing an understanding for why energy medicine and
39:31
frequency are cornerstones for healing the human body.
39:36
And the so we've got plasma, we've got
39:39
fascia, and we've got all these electrical systems
39:41
that run through the physical body, the heart,
39:44
the brain, the nervous system, every cell in
39:47
your body conducts electricity.
39:49
And that's something that people need to come
39:51
to grips with.
39:52
And what the Western modality of care is
39:54
constantly neglecting.
39:56
We use lithotripsy to break up kidney stones,
39:58
right?
40:00
That's a frequency.
40:02
Well, rife technology was discovered in the 1930s
40:05
using frequencies to break up tumors within the
40:08
body.
40:12
Uh, there is so much evidence of how
40:17
powerful frequency is on our physical body.
40:21
Um, and and for me, one of the
40:24
things that I notice with my tuning forks
40:26
and uh working on the body.
40:29
The things that I I often tell people
40:31
about frequency is that if you think about
40:34
it, our physical bodies are here in this
40:37
physical realm, and we have our senses to
40:39
engage with the physical world.
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We have our sense of sight, smell, touch,
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taste, um, and hearing.
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And like, for instance, let's take the set
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the sense of sight, right?
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We go and put it ourselves in front
40:56
of a mirror, and we see in the
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mirror, like, oh gosh, I just ate that
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hamburger, and now that it's there's mustard on
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my face.
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Like I have to clean this off, right?
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We have all these physical senses, and what
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frequency is, it's actually like the mirror for
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our energy systems.
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And so when you hold up that mirror
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in front of your your energy body, your
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energy systems, your your energy systems are able
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to see that reflection and be like, oh
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my gosh, look at this misalignment.
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Like, I can correct this, and then your
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energy systems naturally want to come back into
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that coherent state, that blueprint, if you will,
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of what we were how we were designed
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to function.
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And when we skip over all that and
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go straight to pharmaceuticals, which mask symptoms, we
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are turning off the body's um warning signs
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That there are misalignments, energetic misalignments that are
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that there are misalignments, energetic misalignments that are
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causing uh disease in the physical body.
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causing uh disease in the physical body.
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And that's what I want to challenge people
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And that's what I want to challenge people
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to take away from this.
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to take away from this.
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Is that what if all of your physical
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Is that what if all of your physical
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ailments were rooted in an energetic trauma that
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ailments were rooted in an energetic trauma that
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is still residing in your patterns and systems
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is still residing in your patterns and systems
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that's causing this disease in the first place.
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that's causing this disease in the first place?
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That's it.
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Yeah, that's it.
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I think of it again earlier.
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I was talking about you know the the
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ye, the mind, and and that is the
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ability right to we're a tuner.
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That central nervous system is a receiver and
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a transmitter.
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So if you can take your tuner and
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learn how to consciously lock into certain parts
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of the spectrum, then you are able to
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align with certain things.
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And so there's the mind and its ability
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to work, because I'll show my age as
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a quartz crystal inside of our little dial
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radios we had growing up.
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And because that quartz crystal help you to
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lock into the frequency of what the station
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was you wanted to extract the information that
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was your music or your talk show or
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whatever.
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And that's the kind of the way we
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work.
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And so what makes medical qigong an interesting
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thing is that it also says, Well, that's
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great.
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Here's the information that you're pulling in or
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moving out.
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Now, what makes a broadcast tower stronger?
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How much power does it have?
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If you want to make a change in
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this world, you really want to make a
43:44
change beyond voting, if that works.
43:46
Um beyond loaded.
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Um, beyond, you know, uh picketing with signs
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in the corner of you know the courthouse,
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whatever.
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What if it's more about being intentional about
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where we're putting our focus, where we're in
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training to, and then learning how to cultivate
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more power so that the broadcast that we're
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putting out that is more aligned is influencing
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not just the people around you, but nature
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around you, the fabric of reality around you.
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What if that's really how we work?
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That's more than just health.
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That is that because most people go, I
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just want to get healthy again.
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Well, what what would you do if you
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were healthy?
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What's your goal then?
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I don't know.
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I'm like, what if it was to help
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change the world?
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What if it's to be your own little
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lightning rod and broadcast system to help to
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broadcast the signal to create absolute change in
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the direction that we most of us want
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on this planet?
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What if that's the major key to creating
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change?
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So for me, I found through qi gong,
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the cultivation of life force, the animating force
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that makes all of this possible.
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What if I can increase my broadcast signal?
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That way the frequencies that I'm aligning to
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and then transmitting are boosted further and further.
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If you have a cell phone, you know
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what I'm talking about.
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Get far enough away from a tower, and
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you're like, ah, one bar.
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That tower isn't reaching my phone.
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You are a tower.
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Right.
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Which is why we show up on infrared
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on the night night vision, right?
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We are electrical beings.
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We are putting out these signals, and a
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lot of mainstream is neglecting to identify not
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just the value of that, but the power
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behind it.
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Absolutely.
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Our DNA, our chromosomes, that's part of our
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read-write potential as a human being.
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That's what we're doing.
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They're much more than just your DNA.
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I'm like, oh, it's so much more than
45:46
that.
45:47
So much more than that.
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So what is the work that you do?
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Let's get into this.
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I'll make it as quick as I can.
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So 13 and a half minutes.
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Okay.
45:57
The first 20 minutes of most treatments, because
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I'll do the prep work before the client
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comes on, like, let's just spend the treatment
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time treating.
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We'll text back and forth or email what
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your issue are and is, and I'll work
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on it.
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First 20 minutes, I'm treating them with sound
46:10
therapy.
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I'm using two different sounds primarily.
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One is a sharper uh sound you'll hear
46:15
here in a minute.
46:16
The secondary is more of a softer shushing
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sound.
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And the first one's like a sonic scalpel,
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and the second is more like a buffing
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out the rough spots.
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And one or the other may work better
46:29
for the person.
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You'll feel it in you.
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One maybe you may feel a lot, and
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the other not so much.
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Maybe you feel both.
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And the rest of the remaining session is
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done in silence.
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We're still on the phone.
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I hit mute, and then I will start
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to move them into a qi gong form
46:43
that I'll do.
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I pull them in because I'm already fused
46:47
with them anyway energetically.
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We fuse and become one, because that's the
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way this place works, ladies and gentlemen.
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We're all connected.
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It is nothing special about me, it's nothing
46:55
special about Gail.
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We all work that way.
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If you think about somebody, you're connected.
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So talking about my ex-wife earlier, right?
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I'm going, you need to think some good
47:04
thoughts here.
47:05
Because you're connecting with her intentionally.
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You don't want to send your animosity or
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unresolved issues to a person, anybody really.
47:15
Yeah.
47:15
And so that's how we connect.
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That's how I work.
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That's how we all work.
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I'm trying to help you understand this isn't
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special about me.
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I just recognize that it's the same how
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it works.
47:26
So I think about you, and then that's
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how the treatment unfolds is 20 minutes of
47:29
sound, and then the rest of it is
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done in silence.
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Yeah.
47:34
The person's lying down, and hopefully they're passing
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out.
47:37
Some of you here in a minute, when
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I make these sounds, you may feel like
47:41
you're kind of feel antsy or anxious with
47:43
the first sound because it's going to start
47:45
extracting things out of your body, your nervous
47:47
system, plucking strings, if you need to use
47:49
that analogy, and the softer sound rarely ever
47:51
makes anybody feel that way.
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But don't be alarmed if you're like, God,
47:56
what are you doing to me right now?
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It's because I'm going in there and you're
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like, that is not aligned, and we're going
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to move things into place.
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And you may feel that for the rest
48:05
of you, you may just go, God, what
48:06
are you doing to me, dude?
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I'm passing out.
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It just depends on the person on how
48:11
you respond to what I'll be doing.
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Yeah, and we do the same thing in
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frequency uh with biofield tuning.
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Uh, we can do group sessions and distance
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sessions, or I connect with people and use
48:23
my forks remotely to uh stabilize their energetic
48:25
fields.
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And so this group work, even though it's
48:31
being recorded, this will transmit through every uh
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one who tunes in through the listening of
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this work.
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And like you were saying, most of the
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work that you do is remote work and
48:45
it's almost all of it.
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I live in the middle of nowhere, it
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has to be.
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That's amazing.
48:54
Well, let's jump in.
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All right.
48:56
So I'll try to keep the edge of
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the whistle a little a little lower.
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Well what's my timing so I can make
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What's my timing so I can make sure
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sure I don't go over.
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I don't go over?
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What do I have?
49:02
What do I have?
49:02
Ah, you'll be fine.
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Ah, you'll be fine.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I've got 10 minutes and uh and 30
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I've got ten minutes and a ha and
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seconds.
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thirty seconds.
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Okay, here we go.
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Okay, here we go.
49:08
All right.
49:08
All right.
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So the first sound is the sharper one,
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So the first sound is the sharper one,
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and here we go.
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and here we go shh.
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Shh.
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Shh.
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Shh.
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Shit.
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Sh sh shame for the sake of time,
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I'll stop, but I could normally carry on.
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And what would happen?
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It'd be twenty minutes.
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I record the whole thing.
55:44
The client pay plays it back daily at
55:46
least once because it reinforces the live treatment
55:49
until I treat them again.
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Expand your horizons for all those listening.
55:55
Uh try something new and learn what we
55:59
you might not have known before.
56:00
Uh, we you might not have known before,
56:02
And that's one of the things with all
56:02
and that's one of the things with all
56:03
this divisiveness.
56:04
this divisiveness uh it that takes place, right?
56:05
Uh that takes place, right?
56:07
Because of our blocks in hearing and exploring
56:07
Because of our blocks in hearing and exploring
56:11
and finding something new.
56:11
and finding something new.
56:15
So I want to encourage all my listeners
56:15
So I want to encourage all my listeners
56:16
to do that today.
56:16
to do that today.
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I take advantage of this uh awesome offering
56:17
Uh, take advantage of this uh awesome offering
56:20
you brought to us, and thank you again
56:20
you brought to us, and thank you again
56:22
for sharing.
56:22
for sharing.
56:24
Thank you for being here, and we'll see
56:24
Thank you for being here, and we'll see
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you all next week, folks.
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you all next week, folks.
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Have a great week.
56:27
Have a great week.
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Thank you, Gail.
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It's time and this seems well.
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It's time and this seems long.