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The Next Round: Florida State in Trouble? SMU Looms, Week 0 Overreactions & College Football’s Biggest Winners | Hour 2 · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: Hour number two here on Sporting State with the next
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Speaker 1: round presented by our friends at Hard Rock Bets. Week
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Speaker 1: zero is in the books. Some betting lines out there
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Speaker 1: in the SEC. There just aren't, other than the two
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Speaker 1: we just talked about, Ole Miss and LSU. LSU's nine
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Speaker 1: and a half. Ole Miss is six and a half.
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Speaker 1: Everything else is just massive double-digit numbers. Auburn. That's a
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Speaker 1: good one. That's Auburn and Baylor over in Atlanta. That's
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Speaker 1: a seven-point, six-and-a-half-point floating around game there. That's not a
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Speaker 1: bad one. I'm just looking across the country, too, Lance.
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Speaker 1: As far as big games, Thursday night, Colorado and Georgia
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Speaker 1: Tech in Atlanta, six and a half Georgia Tech. That
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Speaker 1: seems to be a skinny number.
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Speaker 2: It does. Yeah. Based on where Colorado is right now.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what to expect from the Buffaloes.
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Speaker 2: I kind of expect them to be bad again. And
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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech is going to be good again, but their
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Speaker 2: schedule is really difficult.
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Speaker 1: I'm digging back in the chat because somebody brought that
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Speaker 1: up earlier asking, what am I missing here? Why is
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Speaker 1: that number as low as it is? Georgia Tech going
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Speaker 1: on the road. Keep in mind. Colorado's coming to Georgia Tech.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Colorado going on the road. Keep in mind.
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Speaker 1: And playing in Atlanta against Georgia Tech. And it's only
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Speaker 1: six and a half. That does feel like I'm missing something.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you the early line. If you can go
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Speaker 1: jump on it right now for entertainment purposes only or
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Speaker 1: I saw last night and this morning on SMU at
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Speaker 1: Florida State, minus three SMU. A road favor, but a
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Speaker 1: skinny number. Just what I saw from Florida State, man.
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Speaker 1: I'd jump all over SMU. That was one of my
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Speaker 1: first thoughts after Saturday. Watching that Florida State game is
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Speaker 1: SMU will be the hottest bet team in the nation.
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Speaker 1: Because Florida State did not look good at all.
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Speaker 2: I did Atlanta's lock show Saturday morning, and I did
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Speaker 2: some team totals. And one of the team totals, you know,
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Speaker 2: I was like, Florida State's going to win today, but
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Speaker 2: I still would play under their 5.5 team total. You've
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Speaker 2: got to feel great about that right now. And then
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Speaker 2: I brought up next week, I was like, you know,
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Speaker 2: the crazy thing is I could see them beat SMU because,
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm a contrarian. Everybody is going to be
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Speaker 2: on SMU. And there's not much you can do with
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Speaker 2: that number because it was 2.5 last week. Now it's
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Speaker 2: crept up to 3%. I think it'll go off at
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Speaker 2: like three and a half or four. But yeah, you're right.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that thing is going to be public heavy.
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Speaker 1: They played New Mexico State and got one sack.
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Speaker 2: One sack.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that is alarming that you can't get to
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Speaker 1: the quarterback any better than they did against New Mexico State.
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Speaker 2: Well, and that's one of the reasons New Mexico State
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Speaker 2: was 10 of 17 on third downs. I thought Florida
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Speaker 2: State looked horrible.
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Speaker 1: They looked awful. I think they might look worse than
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Speaker 1: they did last year. I would tell you this, though,
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Speaker 1: and I agree with you. I'm not expecting a ton
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Speaker 1: from Florida State. But in that game, when your next
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Speaker 1: two games are SMU and Alabama, you don't show all
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Speaker 1: your cards. You probably keep the stunts and the defensive
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Speaker 1: scheme as vanilla as you possibly can to get away
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Speaker 1: with the win. Maybe. Maybe that's it. And we'll see
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Speaker 1: against SMU. It seems like the folks in Vegas think so.
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Speaker 1: I think that's the case. Florida State has a different gear.
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Speaker 1: If it's only minus three with SMU coming to town. Well,
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Speaker 1: how did you think Ashton Daniels looked? I mean, did
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Speaker 1: he look any better in that game than you thought
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Speaker 1: he was going to look? I didn't think so either.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I thought the New Mexico State quarterback was
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Speaker 1: the better quarterback in the game. But again, Deuce Robinson,
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Speaker 1: they didn't do a ton with him. They did not.
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Speaker 1: I think he had three catches for 50 yards. I
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Speaker 1: do think Florida State's got some pretty good running backs. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Worst coaching job of the weekend was done by who?
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Speaker 1: You guys were hinting at Mike Norvell for a second,
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Speaker 1: but I assume.
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Speaker 2: That's not it. I'm going to go Dave Duran.
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Speaker 1: Oh, really? Yeah. Tell me why, Lance.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, you've got going into that game.
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Speaker 2: Everybody said your marquee guy is C.J. Bailey has his
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Speaker 2: worst game. And a lot of this does have to
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Speaker 2: do with Virginia is much better than advertised, especially up
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Speaker 2: front on both sides of the ball. But for C.J.
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Speaker 2: Bailey to go out there, go 12 to 23, 84 yards,
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Speaker 2: only have 33 rushing yards. I just didn't see any
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Speaker 2: adjustments throughout the game. And they physically got dominated. And
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Speaker 2: you've got all offseason with this ready-made college football playoff schedule.
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Speaker 2: Maybe your most difficult game on paper is week one
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Speaker 2: and to get completely embarrassed and lose all of your
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Speaker 2: confidence after that trip to Charlottesville. I just thought it
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Speaker 2: was complete domination. I think Tony Elliott looked like an
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Speaker 2: elite coach on one side and Dave Duren, who's been
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Speaker 2: doing it forever. I think he's the longest behind Debo Sweeney,
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Speaker 2: the second longest tenured coach in the ACC. They just
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Speaker 2: didn't look prepared.
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Speaker 1: Dave Duren, since COVID, 8-4, 9-3, 8-5, 9-4, 6-7, 8-5.
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm about to watch that again in
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Speaker 1: five minutes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's an eight-win team, maybe nine wins
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Speaker 2: based on the schedule, because it is an easy schedule.
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Speaker 1: If they get it, no, yeah, that's true. It's an
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Speaker 1: easy schedule. I just heard all offseason long, From college
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Speaker 1: football people we had on the show, this C.J. Bailey
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Speaker 1: guy is a guy to watch.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I bought in. I bought in.
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Speaker 1: I did too, Jim. And I was like, I think,
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what's going to happen in
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Speaker 1: this game, but NC State's got the better quarterback. I
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Speaker 1: saw Pribula play at Missouri, and it was, you know.
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Speaker 2: Did you play him in our fantasy this weekend, Bailey?
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Speaker 1: I did as my second quarterback. Oh. Yeah. It was
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Speaker 1: your starter. I did Maiva, and then I circled back
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Speaker 1: with C.J. Bailey. Oh, Maiva. Okay, yeah. I did not
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Speaker 1: score very well. It was my first time doing it.
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Speaker 2: And then I had Hawaii's quarterback who ended up getting
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Speaker 2: me some numbers in.
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Speaker 1: The second half. I was just so disappointed in NC State.
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Speaker 1: And impressed in Virginia, too. I don't want to just
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Speaker 1: make it about NC State. I wonder, and I'd love
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Speaker 1: to hear what the audience thinks about this. Week zero,
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Speaker 1: you build up so many expectations, and you just want
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Speaker 1: the games to be so good. And listen, North Carolina
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Speaker 1: and TCU was entertaining, but I don't know if it
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Speaker 1: was a great game. Sonny Dykes gets mine. That's mine too.
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Speaker 1: It's the worst coaching job this weekend because he changed
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Speaker 1: his offensive style. He brings in Gordon Sammis. Gordon Sammis,
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Speaker 1: who they showed a lot on the broadcast. And early on,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Gordon Sammis has a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a different offense. Not as much as Andy Avalos. No,
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Speaker 1: but once North Carolina adjusted, I mean, Gordon Sammis, they
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Speaker 1: couldn't do anything hardly. And you have a Harvard transfer
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Speaker 1: quarterback in Jaden Craig. And that seems like it seems
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Speaker 1: to me like a big step up. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: playing in the Ivy League to my first game is
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Speaker 1: against a Bill Belichick coach defense. And I don't know
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Speaker 1: about you guys. Belichick looked more engaged in this game
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Speaker 1: than he did at all last year. His son's not there.
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Speaker 1: One son, the other one is. I forgot he had
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Speaker 1: another one on the staff, of course. He looked like
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Speaker 1: he was having to call plays. He looked like he
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Speaker 1: was having fun for the first time since he took
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Speaker 1: this college gig.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think he thought maybe it's going to be
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Speaker 2: a little easier last year, and then I think he
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Speaker 2: also realized his legacy somewhat, not at stake, but they
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Speaker 2: don't need to look like absolute shit this year like
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Speaker 2: they did last year. Back to Jaden Craig and Sonny Dykes,
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Speaker 2: coming out of fall camp, Sonny Dykes was like, This
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Speaker 2: kid threw two picks the entire fall camp, and both
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Speaker 2: were tip balls. I'm super confident in Jaden Craig. That
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Speaker 2: was the only thing that threw me off. I didn't
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Speaker 2: have a big expectation for Jaden Craig, and now after
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Speaker 2: watching him against what is a much-improved defense for North Carolina,
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Speaker 2: he still just didn't look the part at all.
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Speaker 1: He didn't, and I just thought Sonny Dykes passing up
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Speaker 1: on the three, and that type of game, it's raining.
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Speaker 1: That apparently is a bad track, whether it's raining or not,
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Speaker 1: but apparently when it rains, it's even worse, you would think,
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Speaker 1: over there. As much rain as they get to know
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Speaker 1: how to deal with it. But apparently it's a mess
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Speaker 1: when it starts raining. And of course it did. It's raining.
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Speaker 1: It's a low scoring game. You've got three right there.
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Speaker 1: And I know we're talking about college kickers. I get it.
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Speaker 1: But take the three, you know, take the three right
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Speaker 1: there and see what happens. You cut it to a
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Speaker 1: two point game with a quarter and a half to go.
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Speaker 1: I just did not understand that. TCU's got money.
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Speaker 2: And to go out and get a Harvard quarterback back
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Speaker 2: to one of the points you were making. Kind of
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Speaker 2: reminded me, you know, Xavier Lee has transferred from Florida,
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Speaker 2: but they go out, they get a Harvard point guard
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Speaker 2: to pick up where Walter Clayton Jr. left off.
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Speaker 1: That's a big transition, man. 175 passing yards, the fewest
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Speaker 1: for TCU since. Oh, gosh. Oh, it's real easy. What's
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Speaker 1: the only other TCU game you remember? Oh, since they
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Speaker 1: lost to Georgia. Since they got blown out of the
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Speaker 1: national championship. Yeah, that's a good point.
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Speaker 2: I bet they take Max Duggan back, though.
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Speaker 1: They would take him back in a heartbeat. Or Josh Hoover.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a massive downgraded quarterback. You can't get
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Speaker 1: around it. Did you guys see, like, Bob Petrino's fingerprints?
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Speaker 1: Could you see some of it? uh early almost early
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Speaker 1: drive so yeah in the first half a lot of
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Speaker 1: easy completion those drive starters that tight ends legit and
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Speaker 1: i thought he did a really good job that's why
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Speaker 1: north carolina if they didn't have such a tough schedule
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Speaker 1: like the defense defensive line looked good uh they got
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Speaker 1: a playmaker at tight end the quarterback's not too bad
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Speaker 1: from wisconsin and with petrino you know that offense is
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Speaker 1: going to get better yeah as the season goes. The
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Speaker 1: problem is the schedule is going to get only tougher. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I just noticed in that first drive, he's throwing to
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Speaker 1: a lot of very open receivers. And I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: there's Bob Petrino for you. Bob Petrino's giving him some
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Speaker 1: easy throws early. Now Belichick's going to adjust to that.
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Speaker 1: Belichick's good at what he does. He's going to take
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Speaker 1: away those easy throws. And when he did, North Carolina
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Speaker 1: had some trouble. Who did the best coaching job this weekend?
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Speaker 1: It's hard not to say Tony Elliott.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, or Charles Hoff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it comes down to those two probably.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Stanford got a win, too. That was pretty
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Speaker 1: big for them. Yeah, but boy, Jim. That was disgusting.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're watching at the end. They
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Speaker 1: did slow a 23-7 lead and had to come back
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Speaker 1: and win it. Once Hawaii got momentum, they could not
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Speaker 1: stop Hawaii's offense. Until they did.
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Speaker 2: Until they did, right at the end. I mean, they
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Speaker 2: have to score two touchdowns in the final 141 to
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Speaker 2: get the cover. The one turnover for the entire game
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Speaker 2: ends up being a scoop and score for On a
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Speaker 2: drive that, you know, could have given Hawaii a walk-off win.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, to beat a Pritchard, though, in his first game,
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Speaker 1: I mean, good for him to get the win. Boy,
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Speaker 1: they look like maybe the worst team in the ACC.
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Speaker 2: They will not win more than three games.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't see how Stanford's not the worst
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Speaker 1: team in the ACC.
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Speaker 2: And I don't understand, like, you understand the tribal patterns
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Speaker 2: on Hawaii? Stanford's got those, too. Do you guys have
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Speaker 2: any idea what's.
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Speaker 1: Up with that? I don't know if they were just
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Speaker 1: honoring Hawaii or what, but. It's on their stripe on
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Speaker 1: their helmet. It's almost like the same thing Hawaii was wearing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the history of why
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Speaker 1: that would be on there. Are we sure it's tribal
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Speaker 1: or is it not just a design, a pattern? It
11:57
Speaker 1: may be, but there's just a version of hounds, too.
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Speaker 2: But when Tavita Pritchard got the job, he was almost
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Speaker 2: like a lay made of peppers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the one that Coach Ken would wear.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know the whole story there.
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Speaker 1: I was confused by that as well, Lance, watching that game.
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Speaker 2: I still love hearing Andrew Luck talk. It's like Andre
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Speaker 2: the Giant's younger brother.
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Speaker 1: He's all in on that program, though. I mean, I
12:25
Speaker 1: don't know if you all saw it, but when they
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Speaker 1: had that kid get injured, he's going on the field
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Speaker 1: helping him off the field. Like, Andrew Luck is all
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Speaker 1: in on that program, and that program feels like it's
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Speaker 1: going nowhere.
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Speaker 2: And that was the most, as bad as the Coliseum was,
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Speaker 2: the most embarrassing crowd was on the form. Yeah. Like
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Speaker 2: there was nobody there.
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Speaker 1: They spent all that money, by the way, on that
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Speaker 1: new stadium. I don't know how old it is now. Brooks,
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Speaker 1: can you check for me how old Stanford's on-campus stadium is?
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Speaker 1: It's about a decade old maybe now. Well, the remodel part.
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Speaker 1: I think it's still in the same place as the
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Speaker 1: old Stanford Stadium was. I think they just remodeled it.
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Speaker 1: They spent a lot of money on it. They did.
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Speaker 1: They had to play away from it for a year. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think it's the same exact location because you and
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Speaker 1: I were there when we were out there for Alabama
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Speaker 1: and Clemson. I think it's the same location the old
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Speaker 1: Stanford State, but they actually hosted a Super Bowl back
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Speaker 1: in the day. The Dolphins played in the Super Bowl there.
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Speaker 1: I think it's the same location. They just redid the
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Speaker 1: guts of it. But very few people ever got the
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Speaker 1: games there.
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Speaker 2: Bad.
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Speaker 1: I'm with Lance. I mean, you can take shots at
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Speaker 1: USC and they deserve it. Nobody goes to Stanford games.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you get that excitement back either
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Speaker 1: when you're playing an ACC schedule. Do you give best
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Speaker 1: coaching job to who? I mean, I want to go
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Speaker 1: Tony Elliott. I think he deserves it. It's a blowout,
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Speaker 1: so it I mean, Charles Huff won a closer game
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Speaker 1: on the road. You probably have to go Charles Huff,
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Speaker 1: I think, in 1A, 1B.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go Huff just based on the fact
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Speaker 2: that I went worst coaching job Dave Duren. I didn't
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Speaker 2: want to combo it up. But I got no problem
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Speaker 2: with what Tony Elliott. I mean, that was masterful what
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Speaker 2: Virginia did. Now, will they be able to continue this
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Speaker 2: throughout the regular season, the ACC? We'll see. But for
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Speaker 2: Memphis to be able to go on the road, and
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Speaker 2: that's a game they had to have when you look
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Speaker 2: at that schedule.
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Speaker 3: New Stanford Stadium, 2006, 20 years old.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Is it in the same location? Do you know?
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Speaker 3: Exact same location. They began construction immediately following the 2005
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Speaker 3: loss to Notre Dame. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know how much of the original stadium
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Speaker 1: is still there. I don't know if they just completely
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Speaker 1: tore it out or what.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it said it was a complete demo.
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Speaker 1: Okay. I knew it was in the same exact location.
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Speaker 1: I knew they didn't change the locations. Real estate out there,
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Speaker 1: as it turns out, is a bit expensive. You have
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Speaker 1: to rebuild things right there. I have a different feeling.
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Speaker 1: on Jackson Arnold than you guys do. I mean, there
14:37
Speaker 1: were times I thought he looked better, but I remember
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Speaker 1: him running a lot against Baylor and helping Auburn beat
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Speaker 1: Baylor last year on the road. As the game went on,
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Speaker 1: and I'd love to hear the chat's thought on this, Brownie,
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Speaker 1: but as the game went on, I thought it started
14:52
Speaker 1: to look a lot like Jackson Arnold when he was
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Speaker 1: at Auburn. Those sacks started to stack up on him,
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Speaker 1: and to me, sometimes that's on the quarterback. Sometimes the
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Speaker 1: quarterback has to see the blitz coming, change your blocking schemes,
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Speaker 1: or get rid of the football quickly, usually throwing wherever
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Speaker 1: the blitz is coming from, six sacks and him being
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Speaker 1: just nothing as the game wore on, that's sort of
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Speaker 1: the Jackson Arnold I saw at Auburn. and i i
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Speaker 1: did i thought he looked good early on but i
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Speaker 1: thought he looked good early on against baylor by the
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Speaker 1: end of the game i thought it was the same
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Speaker 1: jackson arnold i guess we were watching different games yeah.
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Speaker 2: Because i will tell you baylor last year was one
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Speaker 2: of the worst defenses jackson arnold went against memphis might
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Speaker 2: be the best defense he goes against the entire year
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Speaker 2: so you say he looked i thought they couldn't run
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Speaker 2: the football either so like I mean, maybe a sack
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Speaker 2: or two of the six were, you know, holding onto
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Speaker 2: the ball a little bit long. I just thought Memphis
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Speaker 2: up front was dominating.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to know in Coach Film if
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Speaker 1: they determined he was holding them because Hugh Freeze, that
15:56
Speaker 1: was kind of the dance he would always try to
15:58
Speaker 1: dance is not overly kill Jackson Arnold, but also not
16:03
Speaker 1: kill his offensive line because he started getting questions about
16:06
Speaker 1: the sacks. Was Jackson holding the ball too long or
16:09
Speaker 1: is it only offensive line? I've never played quarterback, but
16:12
Speaker 1: I know enough that there are are certain things you
16:14
Speaker 1: got to do to get rid of the ball quickly. Yeah.
16:16
Speaker 1: And he does hold the ball too long. There's no doubt. And,
16:19
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's to your benefit. He holds it.
16:21
Speaker 1: It's not there. It's not there. Then he takes off
16:23
Speaker 1: and he runs. He's got a lot of space. But
16:25
Speaker 1: that looked a lot like the Baylor game last year,
16:29
Speaker 1: except Auburn won the game and he didn't win the
16:31
Speaker 1: game this past week. But as it went on and
16:33
Speaker 1: him just being crushed under a pass rush, I thought, man,
16:37
Speaker 1: Put him in orange and blue. Interlock that A &
16:39
Speaker 1: U and I'm watching the same guys I saw last year. Yeah.
16:42
Speaker 2: I thought he looked much better.
16:43
Speaker 1: 137 rush yards last year against Baylor. 137 in game one.
16:48
Speaker 1: Do you know how many yards he ended up with
16:49
Speaker 1: on the season? 311. He had 137 in his first game.
16:53
Speaker 2: Yeah.
16:53
Speaker 1: Well, keep in mind, you know, those sacks. Oh, I know.
16:55
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the numbers. I'm looking at the numbers.
16:57
Speaker 1: I mean, but that was crazy. That one game against Baylor.
17:01
Speaker 1: You're like, I mean, Hugh Freeze has finally found his
17:03
Speaker 1: quarterback here. He's got a guy that can run. I
17:06
Speaker 1: think Jackson Arnold, he'll be close to it.
17:08
Speaker 2: If he stays healthy for a full 12, close to
17:10
Speaker 2: 1,000 yards rushing.
17:12
Speaker 1: It's going to be going up against different defenses now.
17:14
Speaker 2: I mean, with UNLV. I mean, he ain't going to
17:16
Speaker 2: be playing SEC defenses. I'm just looking at it right now. Hawaii,
17:19
Speaker 2: that's a tricky game. At North Texas, they're completely rebuilding. Akron,
17:24
Speaker 2: Cal will be tricky. North Dakota State, at Air Force,
17:27
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois, Wyoming. New Mexico, San Jose State, and Nevada.
17:31
Speaker 1: That's going to feel different than an SEC road schedule.
17:33
Speaker 1: Let's do some of those road trips he's taken. But
17:36
Speaker 1: in this game right here, I guess I'm on an island.
17:38
Speaker 1: I thought he looked just like the same old Jackson.
17:40
Speaker 1: He was very popular. About halfway through that game, people
17:44
Speaker 1: were tweeting out, man, hey, Auburn didn't use this guy right.
17:49
Speaker 1: They even said it in the broadcast. Auburn didn't use
17:50
Speaker 1: this guy right. Well, they didn't.
17:52
Speaker 2: And by the end of the game, I was like,
17:55
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a big enough track record. Malik Willis,
18:00
Speaker 2: Jared Stidham, Bo Nix, and now Jackson Arnold. I mean,
18:03
Speaker 2: Auburn has just completely flushed talent at the quarterback position.
18:07
Speaker 1: Those are all different coaches, though.
18:09
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
18:10
Speaker 1: That's what's crazy about it.
18:11
Speaker 2: I mean, the one common denominator is the program.
18:13
Speaker 1: I would say the one thing that looked like Jackson
18:17
Speaker 1: Arnold the most to me was losing a one-possession game.
18:20
Speaker 1: That's all he did at Auburn. It was one possession
18:23
Speaker 1: loss after another.
18:25
Speaker 2: I don't know.
18:26
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was a Gatorade National Player of
18:28
Speaker 1: the Year, and they can get those wrong. I'm not
18:30
Speaker 1: saying just because he was a five-star Gatorade National Player
18:32
Speaker 1: of the Year that he ought to be the next
18:36
Speaker 1: Dan Marino. But at some point, you've got to think
18:41
Speaker 1: some of that's going to come out. I think it
18:43
Speaker 1: will this year under Dan Mullen. It did not at Oklahoma.
18:46
Speaker 1: It did not at Auburn.
18:47
Speaker 2: But I think we saw two good teams. I think
18:48
Speaker 2: those are two nine-win teams, UNLV and Memphis.
18:54
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't disagree with that, yeah. We'll see if
18:57
Speaker 1: one of them ends up being the group of six.
18:59
Speaker 1: Boise State, Navy, maybe some other teams will have something
19:02
Speaker 1: to say about that. Boise State and Memphis play week three. No,
19:05
Speaker 1: they play week two. They play in two weeks. It'll
19:08
Speaker 1: be the third game for Memphis. And I'm like Lance,
19:11
Speaker 1: a big test for Charles Hoff will be how do
19:14
Speaker 1: you manage this now? Everybody's singing your praises. You've got
19:17
Speaker 1: Arkansas State coming in. It's a tricky matchup. It's a
19:20
Speaker 1: trap game between UNLV and Boise. How does he handle that?
19:23
Speaker 1: That'll be a big test.
19:24
Speaker 2: I think North Dakota State's 11-1. I really do. I
19:26
Speaker 2: think their one loss is at UNLV.
19:28
Speaker 1: But who are they going to beat?
19:29
Speaker 2: That's the thing. But again, if the other in front
19:34
Speaker 2: of them is 9-3, I think it's going to be
19:36
Speaker 2: a tough year for Group 6. Because I think the
19:38
Speaker 2: really good teams have got really good schedules. They're tough schedules.
19:41
Speaker 1: But that's when us as football minds, 10-2 Boise State
19:47
Speaker 1: with their schedule.
19:48
Speaker 2: Oh, it would be in front. But I'm talking about.
19:50
Speaker 1: better than 11-1 North Dakota State.
19:51
Speaker 2: I'm talking about 11-1 and 9-3, though. There is somewhat
19:54
Speaker 2: of a difference there.
19:55
Speaker 1: If you've got 9-3s and somehow North Dakota State cruises
19:59
Speaker 1: through this thing at 12-0 or 11-1, even if they've
20:02
Speaker 1: played nobody. But if you're 9-3 Memphis.
20:06
Speaker 1: And you have beaten UNLV and Boise, but you've lost
20:10
Speaker 1: to Navy and a couple other American games. What do
20:12
Speaker 1: you do with them? Hell, you might not even be
20:13
Speaker 1: your conference champion at that point, though. That's right.
20:16
Speaker 2: That's right.
20:16
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got three conference losses, that's going
20:17
Speaker 1: to be tough. You at least have to be conference champion.
20:20
Speaker 1: Last thing before we put Memphis to bed here. They were,
20:26
Speaker 1: or Charles Huff was one year at Marshall. Then he
20:30
Speaker 1: went to Southern Miss one year. Now he's at Memphis twice.
20:34
Speaker 1: Do you think he leaves after one year? Because right
20:37
Speaker 1: now he's a hot candidate.
20:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's– I mean, depending on how this
20:43
Speaker 2: plays out, if they go 8-4, then maybe there's not
20:46
Speaker 2: the offer that he wants. But if they go 9-3
20:49
Speaker 2: or 10-2, I think more than likely, and I know
20:51
Speaker 2: we continue to use this job, but if South Carolina
20:54
Speaker 2: offered him, would he not take it? Again, I don't
20:57
Speaker 2: know if there's any tie. I'm just going for an
20:58
Speaker 2: obvious SEC. Yeah, it's not even– I mean, he would
21:01
Speaker 2: jump at that opportunity.
21:03
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the most likely guy to be fired
21:05
Speaker 1: right now is Mike Norville at Florida State.
21:07
Speaker 2: He would definitely take that job.
21:08
Speaker 1: He'd take Florida State, yeah. I mean, but there again,
21:12
Speaker 1: not that this should matter, but are Florida State fans
21:14
Speaker 1: going to say, not another Memphis guy?
21:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
21:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want the next Memphis guy. We just
21:18
Speaker 1: had the Memphis guy, and we're firing him and paying
21:20
Speaker 1: him $ 50 million to walk away. I don't want the
21:22
Speaker 1: other Memphis guy. And I do wonder how much of
21:25
Speaker 1: that hurts Charles Huff, even though he's shown it at
21:27
Speaker 1: other places. These Memphis guys have not gone and set
21:30
Speaker 1: the world on fire. You know, the guy I liked, Fuente,
21:34
Speaker 1: goes to Virginia Tech. They have to fire him. Norvell
21:37
Speaker 1: looked pretty good. He goes to Florida State. They're going
21:39
Speaker 1: to have to fire him. Silverfield, unknown. I don't think
21:42
Speaker 1: it's going to be a great year for him at Arkansas.
21:45
Speaker 1: I mean, Huff, by the time it rolls around to
21:48
Speaker 1: coach carousel season, how good are these Memphis guys going
21:52
Speaker 1: to look? I mean, it starts to be that program where,
21:54
Speaker 1: of course, anybody goes to Memphis.
21:56
Speaker 2: I thought the Florida State game was closer than 34-17.
21:59
Speaker 1: Oh, the halfback pass the kid dropped in the end zone.
22:02
Speaker 2: Do you guys catch yourself pulling for New Mexico State
22:05
Speaker 2: to win that game?
22:06
Speaker 1: A little bit, yeah.
22:07
Speaker 2: And it's really sad because the carnage, like, I think
22:10
Speaker 2: they find the 45 or 50 million on Saturday, right?
22:14
Speaker 1: Immediately yeah like arkansas did back with that coach they
22:17
Speaker 1: fired jack crow jack crow after one game he lost
22:21
Speaker 1: to the citadel like six to three or nine to
22:23
Speaker 1: three or something like that that was probably a little
22:25
Speaker 1: premature probably so florida state was a 31 and a
22:28
Speaker 1: half point favorite they went by 17 i was thinking
22:31
Speaker 1: it and i got two good friends that are florida
22:32
Speaker 1: state fans and was texting both of them during the
22:35
Speaker 1: game and they are done with him they're fed up
22:38
Speaker 1: they want tony elliott I mean, both of them, both
22:42
Speaker 1: of them. So that must be the popular name among
22:44
Speaker 1: Florida State fans is go get Tony Elliott, which, you know,
22:47
Speaker 1: I don't want to say to my Florida State friends,
22:49
Speaker 1: but if you can win at Virginia, why go try
22:51
Speaker 1: to resurrect Florida State? That's right. It's in the same league. Yeah.
22:55
Speaker 2: All right.
22:55
Speaker 1: When we come back, Lance had this for us last week.
22:58
Speaker 1: We saved it for today. Who won the breakup? Who
23:01
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23:03
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23:09
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23:13
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23:17
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23:20
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23:25
Speaker 1: the weekend, Leonard Fournette, LSU great, back on campus. He
23:29
Speaker 1: helped hand out the number sevens this year, the jerseys
23:33
Speaker 1: that will be worn by the best playmaker in offense
23:35
Speaker 1: and defense. And while he was there, he gifted... a
23:38
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23:44
Speaker 1: the kid who was promised he'd get to wear a
23:46
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23:50
Speaker 1: didn't get right last year and putting the number five
23:53
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23:55
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23:59
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25:36
Speaker 1: should have gone to the head coach at Villanova. I
25:38
Speaker 1: think this was a Friday game.
25:40
Speaker 2: It was, yeah.
25:41
Speaker 1: Villanova, seventh-ranked Villanova in the FCS, playing William & Mary.
25:48
Speaker 1: Under a minute, William & Mary kicks a field goal
25:50
Speaker 1: to cut it to seven. Then you botch the onside kick, touchdown,
25:56
Speaker 1: extra point for Villanova to tie it up.
25:58
Speaker 2: What kind of defense were they playing?
25:59
Speaker 1: I don't know. One with holes in it. Then you
26:03
Speaker 1: get the ball back, and instead of just catching your
26:05
Speaker 1: breath and going to overtime, you overthrow an interception, and
26:10
Speaker 1: then William & Mary walks it off with a field goal.
26:12
Speaker 1: So they score 13-14. points in less than one minute
26:17
Speaker 1: fastest i've ever seen.
26:18
Speaker 2: Put it this way if i was a villanova fan
26:20
Speaker 2: i wouldn't have seen the end of the game the
26:21
Speaker 2: game was over it was yeah i would have walked out.
26:24
Speaker 1: Which i'm sure a lot of people did out there
26:26
Speaker 1: was traffic to a villanova traffic.
26:28
Speaker 2: Just watching those villanova players how stunned they were to
26:31
Speaker 2: have that kind of loss week one now this could
26:33
Speaker 2: be a john summerall situation i'll never forget when we
26:36
Speaker 2: had him on the first time we were talking about
26:38
Speaker 2: They lost on that Hail Mary to Appalachian State, and
26:41
Speaker 2: he said, if we wouldn't have lost that, I don't
26:42
Speaker 2: know if we would have gone on this incredible run
26:44
Speaker 2: because it really focused us. So maybe it works the
26:47
Speaker 2: other way, but it just seems to me to lose
26:49
Speaker 2: a game like that at home week one is going
26:52
Speaker 2: to be devastating for the entire season.
26:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one you won't ever see again probably. 13
26:58
Speaker 1: points in less than a minute to lose the game
27:01
Speaker 1: is what Villanova, then number seven in the FCS rankings.
27:05
Speaker 1: All right, who won the breakup?
27:06
Speaker 2: And back.
27:08
Speaker 1: On Friday, you were getting ready for a Bill Belichick weekend.
27:12
Speaker 1: So sort of set this up for me and tell
27:13
Speaker 1: me what you were thinking.
27:14
Speaker 2: Well, you know, when we talk about Bill Belichick and
27:16
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, it was always like one couldn't do it
27:18
Speaker 2: without the other. You know, six Super Bowls together, and
27:21
Speaker 2: then we get the breakup, and it did seem like
27:24
Speaker 2: there was a feud internally between those two where Belichick
27:28
Speaker 2: didn't like Tom Brady's trainer coming around, and they got sideways.
27:32
Speaker 2: And one of the reasons he left and went to Tampa, well,
27:34
Speaker 2: what happens when he leaves? New England goes down. Bill
27:38
Speaker 2: Belichick ends up retiring from the NFL. Brady goes on
27:42
Speaker 2: and wins another Super Bowl with Tampa Bay. Belichick takes
27:45
Speaker 2: a job. Brady's making a fortune now doing, you know,
27:49
Speaker 2: color for Fox. I thought he improved in year two
27:52
Speaker 2: a lot.
27:52
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:53
Speaker 2: And Belichick in year one was awful with Carolinas.
27:56
Speaker 1: And then in the offseason, everything around him has been
27:59
Speaker 1: a disaster. Yeah, it's not going to get any better
28:01
Speaker 1: for Belichick, I don't think. This has been– this Saturday
28:05
Speaker 1: was his high point.
28:05
Speaker 2: Yep.
28:06
Speaker 1: Of the post-breakup. But after this, the schedule's going to
28:11
Speaker 1: eat him up most likely, and he'll... Yeah, I went
28:13
Speaker 1: back to it this morning. just not to make a
28:14
Speaker 1: bowl game.
28:15
Speaker 2: I've got them winning maybe five games, but they're not
28:18
Speaker 2: going to go to a bowl game.
28:19
Speaker 1: You got them at four until they beat TCU, probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
28:21
Speaker 1: that just flipped it from four to five.
28:22
Speaker 2: And I did have Carolina plus the point. I didn't
28:24
Speaker 2: think they would win the game, but that was nice
28:27
Speaker 2: that you really never had to, you know, sweat the
28:29
Speaker 2: fact that I guess they were down seven at one point.
28:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played three things on Saturday, and the only
28:34
Speaker 1: thing I got right was... The first window, I was like, man,
28:36
Speaker 1: I'm on a roll. Here we go. Because NC State's
28:39
Speaker 1: going to definitely win this next game. I played them
28:41
Speaker 1: on a money line. They get blown out. You like
28:43
Speaker 1: them from the offseason, NC State. You like them offseason.
28:45
Speaker 1: Because of C.J.
28:46
Speaker 2: Bailey.
28:46
Speaker 1: I know. He was going to be a stud. You
28:48
Speaker 1: remember that? And then I had USC team totals, which
28:51
Speaker 1: I don't usually dabble in that. But at 49 and
28:53
Speaker 1: a half, I was like, well, one thing, they're going
28:55
Speaker 1: to roll up the score with Jada Maeva.
28:58
Speaker 3: Nope.
29:00
Speaker 1: They shut it down pretty quick. They were up 28-0
29:03
Speaker 1: almost like that.
29:05
Speaker 2: Not only that, but everybody. Not only Maiva came out,
29:09
Speaker 2: and the fourth quarter was Jonas Williams playing the entire
29:12
Speaker 2: fourth quarter.
29:13
Speaker 1: My least favorite Jonas brother.
29:15
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley went into cruise control mode, and it's almost
29:18
Speaker 2: like they didn't want to cover that game the way
29:20
Speaker 2: they played.
29:21
Speaker 1: Who has won this breakup, speaking of them? Lincoln Riley
29:25
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma. That's one I had written down, too. Right now, it's... Oklahoma.
29:30
Speaker 1: They've been to a college football playoff. They have been
29:33
Speaker 1: to a playoff, yeah. And I mean, people are questioning
29:36
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. He's even on the hot seat. I don't
29:39
Speaker 1: know that Venables... he's gotten two contract extensions, which blows
29:42
Speaker 1: me away. But they have been to the college football playoff,
29:45
Speaker 1: which is something Lincoln Riley has not been able to
29:46
Speaker 1: do at a Venables school like USC.
29:48
Speaker 2: We've talked about Alabama and how they're kind of set
29:50
Speaker 2: up for next year. I think that's USC. USC has
29:54
Speaker 2: so many true freshmen. I mean, 15 guys played this weekend.
29:58
Speaker 1: But you won't have Maiava next year. But they'll have
30:01
Speaker 1: a quarterback, though.
30:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll have that Jonas Williams kid who's going to–
30:04
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows? But, you know, he was a
30:06
Speaker 2: five-star guy coming out.
30:07
Speaker 1: Or they'll go get somebody in the portal. Yeah.
30:09
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, like– I don't have a big
30:12
Speaker 2: expectation for USC this year. I do for Oklahoma, though.
30:16
Speaker 1: But so far, Oklahoma's won that breakup, wouldn't you say? Oh,
30:18
Speaker 1: it's close, though. I mean, they haven't really done a ton.
30:21
Speaker 1: They haven't done anything that Lincoln didn't do at Oklahoma. No,
30:25
Speaker 1: I would agree with you on that. They're less than
30:26
Speaker 1: what they were when Lincoln was at Oklahoma. No, I
30:28
Speaker 1: would agree with you on that.
30:29
Speaker 2: But they have been to a college football playoff. You've
30:32
Speaker 2: got to.
30:32
Speaker 1: Judge him at USC, not what he did at Oklahoma.
30:34
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley thinks he's got a Heisman Trophy winner in
30:37
Speaker 2: Hadn't even been to a college football playoff.
30:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's right. He's had a Heisman Trophy winner.
30:42
Speaker 1: They're projected to be a playoff team this year. We'll
30:44
Speaker 1: see if they live up to that. Oklahoma made the
30:47
Speaker 1: playoffs after a losing record, right? They were a losing
30:52
Speaker 1: record the year before? I think that's right.
30:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, or six and six.
30:56
Speaker 1: Six and seven.
30:56
Speaker 3: They've alternated.
30:58
Speaker 1: Yeah.
30:59
Speaker 3: Ten win in six and seven seasons since Venables has
31:02
Speaker 3: been there.
31:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
31:02
Speaker 1: Up and down, up and down, and he makes the
31:04
Speaker 1: playoff last year and blows a 17-0 home lead against Alabama.
31:09
Speaker 2: Look, it hasn't been great. I'm just saying it's been
31:11
Speaker 2: a little bit better.
31:12
Speaker 1: It's close, but I'll go Oklahoma, but that's close.
31:14
Speaker 2: Interesting to see how you guys would go on Angelina
31:17
Speaker 2: Jolie and Brad Pitt.
31:19
Speaker 1: I've got to go Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt still does
31:21
Speaker 1: a lot of meaningful work. What did Angelina Jolie do?
31:24
Speaker 1: She's more into the behind-the-scenes producing and directing.
31:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she still does some stuff. I don't
31:28
Speaker 2: think she's done a commercial hit since 2016 Kung Fu
31:30
Speaker 2: Panda 3. But do you look at Brad Pitt F1
31:34
Speaker 2: last year? This year, heart of the beast. I cannot
31:38
Speaker 2: wait to see this. The dog better not die, though.
31:40
Speaker 2: Do you guys see the previews over the weekend?
31:42
Speaker 1: I have not, no.
31:43
Speaker 2: Ex-Special Forces, him and his dog are stuck in the wilderness.
31:45
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what they're doing out there. Also,
31:48
Speaker 2: the future or the further misadventures of Cliff Booth coming
31:51
Speaker 2: out Christmas. Can't wait to see that. But Brad Pitt
31:54
Speaker 2: is definitely... Outside of the kids... Dropping his name, that
31:58
Speaker 2: is kind of a slap in the face.
32:00
Speaker 1: It's tough when they drop the old man's name.
32:02
Speaker 2: I think Brad Pitt dominated the divorce there.
32:04
Speaker 1: But has she produced or directed anything of meaning since
32:08
Speaker 1: that breakup? Because that's what she does mostly now, right?
32:10
Speaker 2: She's a filmmaker. She's post-50, and post-50 in Hollywood for
32:14
Speaker 2: women is typically cruel. So, yeah, I think it's more
32:17
Speaker 2: on the other side of the camera, but I don't
32:19
Speaker 2: know exactly what she's doing. They're fighting over a winery
32:22
Speaker 2: they've got in France. They've been divorced for a couple
32:25
Speaker 2: of years.
32:25
Speaker 1: Wow. Still not many production credits for Jolie.
32:29
Speaker 3: Less than you would think.
32:31
Speaker 2: Seen maybe four or five projects since 2020.
32:35
Speaker 1: Any of them big names?
32:37
Speaker 2: No. Okay.
32:38
Speaker 1: So Brad Pitt's an easy win. This is to be determined.
32:42
Speaker 1: LSU and Brian Kelly. I think I know where it's
32:44
Speaker 1: going to be. Are you reading my list? I don't
32:45
Speaker 1: have that good of an eyesight. Not a great Brian
32:48
Speaker 1: Kelly debut in the booth, I don't think. He was awful. Yeah.
32:50
Speaker 1: I mean, did you have volume up on that game
32:51
Speaker 1: a lot? Yeah. I did, too, since my game colleagues
32:55
Speaker 1: were there.
32:56
Speaker 2: It was so weird seeing him at North Dakota.
32:59
Speaker 1: He was bad, too. And I don't know who the
33:01
Speaker 1: rest of the crew was. I don't know. We know
33:03
Speaker 1: Adam Brennan, the other guy in the booth there. I
33:07
Speaker 1: didn't hear their name. So is that who that was?
33:08
Speaker 1: He's the CBS, does those interviews that we all like.
33:12
Speaker 1: Who was the other analyst? Oh, that was him, Adam Brennan. Okay,
33:15
Speaker 1: that was that guy. The play-by-play guy I didn't really love. Yeah,
33:18
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know. I was frustrated with Jack State's play,
33:21
Speaker 1: but Brian Kelly was no good.
33:23
Speaker 2: As bad as Brian Kelly was, I don't think he's
33:25
Speaker 2: as bad in the booth as Lane Kiffin is in commercials.
33:28
Speaker 1: In the Dr.
33:29
Speaker 2: Pepper commercial. Oh, my gosh. So uncomfortable.
33:32
Speaker 1: That wasn't great acting.
33:35
Speaker 2: I saw our buddy Chad Witherell from Sporting State sent out–
33:38
Speaker 2: it gave him vibes of Fred McGriff on the Tom Amansky.
33:41
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
33:42
Speaker 1: I'm Fred McGriff.
33:43
Speaker 2: And remember his hat was like this?
33:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was on the top of his head.
33:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:48
Speaker 1: But Brian Kelly's breakup with Notre Dame, Notre Dame won
33:51
Speaker 1: that breakup.
33:51
Speaker 2: So far.
33:52
Speaker 1: Don't you think?
33:53
Speaker 2: We don't know.
33:53
Speaker 1: No, but they've been better without him. Freeman got him
33:56
Speaker 1: to a national championship game like Brian did. Brian did,
34:00
Speaker 1: but I think that program's better without him.
34:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the breakup with LSU and Kelly is— Well,
34:06
Speaker 2: to be seen, but I'm going to bet LSU on
34:07
Speaker 2: that one. But if they're 8-4 this year, which would
34:10
Speaker 2: not be surprising at all, people are going to be like, damn.
34:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if people go watch Brian Kelly games, which
34:14
Speaker 1: if he's going to be on CBS Sports Network, you're
34:16
Speaker 1: not going to see many games. But if you watch
34:19
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly games, he's not going to look great as
34:21
Speaker 1: an analyst this year. Who would you see? Were you
34:23
Speaker 1: watching what he was talking about? The game ops person
34:25
Speaker 1: that screwed that they screwed the clock up. Yeah. The clock,
34:28
Speaker 1: it was late in the half and the clock kept
34:29
Speaker 1: running and the, uh, the, uh, Boise, sorry, the, uh,
34:32
Speaker 1: excuse me, North Dakota state coach was going nuts. And
34:35
Speaker 1: he was even looking up at the press box. Like,
34:37
Speaker 1: you know, what are we doing? Why is the clock?
34:39
Speaker 1: And Brian Kelly's like, that would have been a game
34:42
Speaker 1: ops meeting for me. First thing Monday morning. And the
34:45
Speaker 1: guy was like, uh, what would you tell your game
34:47
Speaker 1: ops people? Uh, Brian Kelly paused until he was calculating.
34:51
Speaker 1: He goes, I would tell them they did a poor job.
34:52
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got dry run-throughs. They don't realize how
34:56
Speaker 2: bad he's going to be.
34:57
Speaker 1: I don't know. He was not good, though. Who wanted
35:00
Speaker 1: to break up Jimbo Fisher from Florida State when Jimbo
35:04
Speaker 1: left and went to Texas A & M? How do
35:07
Speaker 1: you grade that one? Hard to believe Norvell at 1.1.
35:12
Speaker 1: How many straight games? Was it 18 straight games? And
35:14
Speaker 1: he had them in the college football playoff. If his
35:17
Speaker 1: quarterback does not get hurt.
35:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, if Jordan Travis doesn't go down.
35:19
Speaker 1: In a throwaway game.
35:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Alabama's out, they're in. Yep.
35:24
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
35:25
Speaker 2: It's tough because Jimbo gets all this money, goes to
35:28
Speaker 2: A & M, and they do nothing. It's almost like
35:31
Speaker 2: Florida State. Right now, Jimbo has won the breakup because
35:34
Speaker 2: of the money and the fact that he's just sitting
35:36
Speaker 2: there talking about football and counting cash.
35:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
35:39
Speaker 2: I think if Florida State can– identify who their next
35:42
Speaker 2: great coach is and maybe ultimately they say that but
35:44
Speaker 2: right now it's Jimbo the.
35:46
Speaker 1: Irony is Jimbo has exactly what Florida State needs right
35:49
Speaker 1: now stacks of cash that's the irony so I guess
35:52
Speaker 1: I would say Jimbo is.
35:53
Speaker 2: Well you know it's funny you bring up Tony Elliott
35:55
Speaker 2: when you know our buddy Wes McLooney New Balance former
35:59
Speaker 2: Virginia player told me a couple of years ago when
36:01
Speaker 2: NIL busted out he's like our endowment is crazy oh
36:04
Speaker 2: yeah we ever get behind it So Florida State needs money.
36:06
Speaker 2: Virginia's got money. After 11 wins last year and after
36:09
Speaker 2: this Saturday, they're probably going to be pushing more money
36:13
Speaker 2: on the table.
36:14
Speaker 1: Usually those endowments aren't touched for athletics, though. That's just straight.
36:17
Speaker 1: They're not.
36:18
Speaker 2: But I think it's a reflection of how much money
36:20
Speaker 2: can be behind the program.
36:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a reflection of people connected to your school
36:23
Speaker 1: that have money and if they're willing to spend it
36:26
Speaker 1: on athletics. And I don't know if they are in Virginia.
36:28
Speaker 1: And that'll probably determine if Tony Elliott continues to win here,
36:31
Speaker 1: if he's there long or not. Basketball's been... Pretty consistently
36:34
Speaker 1: good over the years. They have been. I mean, I
36:37
Speaker 1: think of Virginia Moore as a basketball school, obviously. I
36:39
Speaker 1: was blown away. Lance brought it up earlier. I had
36:41
Speaker 1: heard 2008. He said 2006, whatever number it is, that
36:44
Speaker 1: they had not sold that joint out since then. That
36:46
Speaker 1: blows me away. That's not that big a stadium. 60,000 maybe? Maybe.
36:50
Speaker 1: I mean, that is a small stadium. And they had
36:53
Speaker 1: not sold it out for almost a decade or two decades.
36:56
Speaker 2: 20 years.
36:57
Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy to me. Who won the breakup
37:04
Speaker 1: between Nico Amelieva and Tennessee so far? We finally get
37:10
Speaker 1: to see Nico back in action. They're a one and
37:12
Speaker 1: a half point favorite on the road at California. Late
37:15
Speaker 1: night window, 1030 Eastern, 930 Central ESPN this week.
37:19
Speaker 2: I mean, UCLA was better last year. Tennessee was worse.
37:26
Speaker 2: I think we will decide that this year.
37:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit like The one we just said
37:32
Speaker 1: was undetermined with Florida State and Jimbo. I think this
37:36
Speaker 1: one is still undetermined. I mean, again, I was talking
37:41
Speaker 1: to a Tennessee fan at lunch yesterday, and he's like,
37:44
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I should be excited
37:46
Speaker 1: or not. He goes, the prospect of a true freshman
37:49
Speaker 1: starting scares me, but it also excites me. He's like,
37:52
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this guy is incredible, and we've never
37:56
Speaker 1: seen him play college football. We don't know. His point was,
37:58
Speaker 1: I'd almost rather have a true freshman starting than the
38:02
Speaker 1: kid that's come back that has been average you know
38:05
Speaker 1: Aguilar was probably better than average but I mean my
38:08
Speaker 1: point that the Tennessee fan was Josh Heupel generally gets
38:13
Speaker 1: good play out of his quarterbacks Nika was probably the
38:16
Speaker 1: exception to that yeah the one breakup everyone will be
38:19
Speaker 1: watching this year is Lane Kiffin to LSU Pete Golding
38:24
Speaker 1: yep at Ole Miss and And that's when it'll play
38:26
Speaker 1: out in real time. Yeah, we'll see that break up
38:28
Speaker 1: in week three. We'll know who won it.
38:30
Speaker 2: DirecTV and Sunday Ticket? Who's won that break up? Yeah,
38:34
Speaker 2: I mean, it's got to be Sunday Ticket. I didn't
38:35
Speaker 2: realize how much they had gone up on the pricing.
38:37
Speaker 1: It's a lot. I'm never going to bitch about it,
38:39
Speaker 1: but I think it's like 400-something bucks now. Yeah, my
38:40
Speaker 1: car got dinged the other day for mine, and I
38:42
Speaker 1: was like, Yeah. Man, I do pay a lot for this.
38:46
Speaker 1: To watch the worst team in the NFL, by the way,
38:48
Speaker 1: is what I am now doing.
38:49
Speaker 2: It seemed like every sports fan I knew had DirecTV
38:53
Speaker 2: back in the day, and it seems like everybody's got
38:55
Speaker 2: YouTube TV now. So I think DirecTV has lost this breakup.
39:00
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw a great meme involving the Dolphins over
39:03
Speaker 1: the weekend. I won't say it here on the air because...
39:08
Speaker 1: because of the kids, it can impact kids. But I
39:11
Speaker 1: will tell you in the commercial break, it made me
39:13
Speaker 1: laugh out loud. Did you see my tweet last night
39:15
Speaker 1: about the yardages? No. And this is by my math
39:19
Speaker 1: after the cutdowns. I waited until the cutdowns just to
39:21
Speaker 1: see who the Dolphins kept at receiver. I knew it
39:23
Speaker 1: was going to be the quarterback. By my math, Miami
39:27
Speaker 1: will start the year with two quarterbacks who've combined to
39:31
Speaker 1: throw for 1,300 NFL yards and six touchdowns and six
39:35
Speaker 1: receivers who have combined to catch 1,600 yards of passes
39:38
Speaker 1: and 13 touchdowns. It's probably the worst passing attack we've
39:42
Speaker 1: seen in modern-day NFL football. I can't think of one
39:45
Speaker 1: that would be that bad.
39:45
Speaker 2: Well, the thing about Dunaway's backup now is an undrafted
39:48
Speaker 2: rookie in Jalen Daniels from Kansas. I kind of made
39:51
Speaker 2: the joke two weeks ago that he'll end up starting
39:52
Speaker 2: a game. He probably will.
39:53
Speaker 1: You've at least got Baker Mayfield. But it was Teddy Bridgewater.
39:57
Speaker 1: How do you let Teddy go? You know what I'm saying?
39:59
Speaker 1: He's at least a serviceable backup, I always thought.
40:02
Speaker 2: I guess maybe it could have been... Just potential and, yeah,
40:06
Speaker 2: I mean, what they were paying. I mean, Teddy was
40:08
Speaker 2: probably making $ 10 million. Jalen Daniels is making a lot less.
40:13
Speaker 2: I mean, he could go back to Kansas right now
40:15
Speaker 2: and make more than he's going to make this year
40:16
Speaker 2: as the number two for Tampa.
40:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. Cut day was fun. NFL on a hiatus until, remember,
40:22
Speaker 1: next Wednesday night is when the NFL season starts, a
40:25
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40:28
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40:33
Speaker 1: in Illinois, where Illinois is a hefty four-touchdown favorite in
40:37
Speaker 1: that one, and a couple other games of interest on
40:40
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Speaker 1: Okay, Brownie, I want to get back to Jackson Arnold
41:59
Speaker 1: for a second. Okay. This is from CBS Sports. 131
42:04
Speaker 1: FBS quarterbacks with at least 12 starts since the beginning
42:07
Speaker 1: of the 2024 season. Arnold has the second highest sack rate.
42:12
Speaker 1: At 12.3%. So he is getting sacked more than anybody
42:17
Speaker 1: else in the country. In the second half, he was
42:20
Speaker 1: 8 of 16, 95 yards of offense in the second half.
42:24
Speaker 2: I go back. His first year as a starter at Oklahoma,
42:27
Speaker 2: one of the worst offensive lines in the history of
42:29
Speaker 2: the SEC. Did not have a good offensive line last year.
42:33
Speaker 1: Do they have one this year? I don't know.
42:35
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought Memphis did a really good
42:37
Speaker 2: job at stopping the run. Again, Jaden Thomas is one
42:42
Speaker 2: of the best running backs in the nation. And, you know,
42:45
Speaker 2: he goes for 44 yards, less than four yards a carry. And,
42:48
Speaker 2: you know, maybe Jackson Arnold cost him a couple of sacks,
42:50
Speaker 2: but I thought he was really good.
42:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Oklahoma offensive line that was so bad in 2024,
42:55
Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold was a, what did they do in 2025?
42:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look, they still weren't a great offensive line.
43:02
Speaker 2: They got to a college football playoff, but they still
43:03
Speaker 2: couldn't run it.
43:04
Speaker 1: Couldn't run it to save their life. They ran it
43:05
Speaker 1: as bad as Alabama did, basically. Yeah, but they did
43:08
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. They did get to the playoffs,
43:10
Speaker 1: which is pretty remarkable.
43:11
Speaker 2: Jackson Arnold will end up being one of the best
43:14
Speaker 2: group six quarterbacks this year.
43:15
Speaker 1: I think he's going to put up big numbers because
43:17
Speaker 1: I think Dan Mullen can coach. As Pac Jam 2 says,
43:20
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen is a better QB coach than Hugh Freeze.
43:23
Speaker 1: Nobody's going to argue that one, right? Oh, no. I
43:25
Speaker 1: was thinking the same thing for the first half. Yeah.
43:28
Speaker 1: Then the second half, I was like, oh, I've seen
43:29
Speaker 1: this before.
43:30
Speaker 3: Yeah.
43:30
Speaker 1: Wait, wait. Is this... Is this game at Jordan-Hare Stadium? No,
43:33
Speaker 1: it's not because they're doing the wave when the offense
43:35
Speaker 1: is on the field. AWKAU says, also everyone forgets he
43:40
Speaker 1: played and was benched at Oklahoma. This is before you
43:42
Speaker 1: just said that. Jackson Arnold has proven at two destinations
43:46
Speaker 1: he cannot QB. I agree with that. Again, I think
43:49
Speaker 1: he's going to be against lesser defenses playing at this level.
43:54
Speaker 1: And he's going to be playing for a better quarterback
43:56
Speaker 1: coach in Dan Mullen. I think you're going to see
43:58
Speaker 1: a better Jackson Arnold this year. Chad wants to know,
44:02
Speaker 1: or Chris, I'm sorry, wants to know what you had
44:03
Speaker 1: against Stidham. He doesn't disagree with you, but he's like,
44:07
Speaker 1: I thought Stidham was okay at Auburn.
44:08
Speaker 2: No, Stidham was the best we've seen since.
44:11
Speaker 1: He's Auburn's last one, last 3,000-yard passer is Jarrett Stidham.
44:18
Speaker 2: Is that right, Brooks?
44:19
Speaker 1: Probably, if I had to guess.
44:20
Speaker 3: They've only ever had two, yes, him and Damian Craig.
44:22
Speaker 1: Yeah.
44:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, he was good. I'm just saying that he's
44:25
Speaker 2: still in the NFL and, you know, He's one play
44:28
Speaker 2: away from starting like he did last year in the
44:30
Speaker 2: AFC Championship game.
44:32
Speaker 1: From the chat, every quarterback in the SEC is under
44:34
Speaker 1: tremendous pressure to win every week. There's none at UNLV.
44:38
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. We will not be talking
44:41
Speaker 1: about Jackson Arnold after this week except to tell how
44:43
Speaker 1: bad he is. There are a lot of people that
44:45
Speaker 1: are with you on this one. I guess Lance and I,
44:48
Speaker 1: I was... I was really impressed.
44:50
Speaker 2: I thought he played well.
44:51
Speaker 1: I mean, I was happy to see him play in
44:53
Speaker 1: that first half. I don't disagree that it was worse
44:55
Speaker 1: in the second half. You can't ignore six sacks. there
44:58
Speaker 1: was obviously that was part of his issue at Auburn
45:01
Speaker 1: as he held the ball too long I would just
45:03
Speaker 1: be curious to know and we may never know this
45:05
Speaker 1: because I'm not going to pay attention to Dan Mullen
45:07
Speaker 1: press conferences but if Dan Mullen came out on his
45:10
Speaker 1: Monday press conference today so you know going back and
45:12
Speaker 1: look at the film we've got with Jackson you know
45:14
Speaker 1: four of those sacks we felt like he held the
45:16
Speaker 1: ball too long there were there were passes he could
45:18
Speaker 1: have made or he's got to throw it away you
45:20
Speaker 1: know if Dan Mullen comes out and says that maybe
45:22
Speaker 1: so but Someone that's got to be on the offensive line, too.
45:25
Speaker 1: What if he comes out and says, Alex Orch, he's
45:26
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback? Well, how much of the... I mean,
45:29
Speaker 1: it got pretty bad in the second half. How much
45:31
Speaker 1: Alex Orch did you see?
45:32
Speaker 2: Zero. I mean, we saw one carry.
45:35
Speaker 1: I mean, that guy, you want to talk about a
45:37
Speaker 1: guy that can't throw. I was watching... What was I watching? Oh,
45:40
Speaker 1: it was that pregame show ESPN did. It was McElroy, Booger...
45:47
Speaker 1: Jesse Palmer. Jesse Palmer and... The ESPN agent. Kevin Negande
45:52
Speaker 1: was hosting it, okay? and they're breaking down all the games,
45:55
Speaker 1: and they're talking about UNLV and Jackson Arnold finding a
45:57
Speaker 1: new home, and one of the analysts, I don't know which,
45:59
Speaker 1: I don't think it was Greg, said, don't forget Alex
46:01
Speaker 1: Orji is the backup, and he's shown he can be fantastic.
46:04
Speaker 2: I'm like, in what regard?
46:07
Speaker 1: When did he show that? Top speed, pads off. When
46:10
Speaker 1: did he show he could be fantastic? That guy's one
46:12
Speaker 1: of the worst college quarterbacks I've ever seen. He's not
46:14
Speaker 1: a bad runner. No, he's an excellent runner, but a
46:16
Speaker 1: quarterback's got to do more than that. Yeah. Michigan refused
46:19
Speaker 1: to let him throw the football. They knew he couldn't
46:21
Speaker 1: throw it. And again, to your point, when they got
46:24
Speaker 1: struggling the other night, Saturday night, it didn't appear that
46:28
Speaker 1: Mullen thought twice about bringing Orgy in. I mean, that
46:31
Speaker 1: was going to be all Jackson Arnold's game to play.
46:33
Speaker 1: All right, one thing we talked about last week, and
46:36
Speaker 1: I was surprised at how many people had a hard
46:39
Speaker 1: reaction feeling about the ticker going away on ESPN broadcast. Now,
46:45
Speaker 1: you got to see it over the weekend. no ticker
46:48
Speaker 1: at the bottom continuously, and then occasionally in the upper
46:51
Speaker 1: right-hand corner, a little box will appear with an ESPN update,
46:55
Speaker 1: and it will update certain scores up in the corner.
47:00
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on no ticker, which is more screen for
47:03
Speaker 1: you to see the actual action, and then the occasional
47:06
Speaker 1: bug that comes in upper right-hand with score updates. Did
47:09
Speaker 1: you notice it, like it?
47:11
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't really notice.
47:13
Speaker 1: It ended up not being that big a deal. It
47:14
Speaker 1: was the first thing I noticed, actually. when the TCU
47:19
Speaker 1: North Carolina game started is how much cleaner the screen
47:22
Speaker 1: was without the ticker at the bottom.
47:23
Speaker 3: Yeah.
47:23
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a full screen of football. Nothing is
47:27
Speaker 1: squeezed back. It looks so much cleaner, so much better.
47:30
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what the chat thought about the
47:32
Speaker 1: no ticker. Well, somebody was pissed it went away earlier
47:34
Speaker 1: in the chat. Yeah, I would tell you this. What
47:36
Speaker 1: I don't need, what's it called? Aerolinga? Is that what
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Speaker 1: it is? Yeah. They have the sponsor bar down there,
47:42
Speaker 1: but occasionally in between plays when there's a break in
47:45
Speaker 1: the action, but they don't go to commercial break, They
47:48
Speaker 1: would put up the four names of the people on
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Speaker 1: the broadcast, and whoever was talking, it would highlight. And
47:54
Speaker 1: then when somebody else would start to— I saw people
47:56
Speaker 1: praising this.— would go away. No, I mean— It's.
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Speaker 3: Like a Zoom call.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I can figure it out. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: poor Dana, whatever her last name is, Dana Beasley or whatever,
48:06
Speaker 1: they wouldn't turn her mic off. Like you could hear
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Speaker 1: her talking on the sidelines being like, hey, tell them
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Speaker 1: I got a little bit more on that. Wait till
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Speaker 1: after the play. Wait till after the play. And I
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Speaker 1: tweeted out, I was like, God bless her. I'd have
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Speaker 1: 16 violations, FCC violations now. I'd be like, get me
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Speaker 1: a bleepity bleep hot dog over here right now. I
48:23
Speaker 1: need a snack. Yeah, I noticed that with her. I just,
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Speaker 1: when they were in that first drive, and I had
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Speaker 1: not even thought about it. It had not even occurred
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Speaker 1: to me that, oh, yeah, we've even talked about this
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Speaker 1: on the show, that the ticker's going away. But it
48:34
Speaker 1: was the first thing I noticed, just how clean and
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Speaker 1: uncluttered the screen was. So Scott's showing the thing where
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Speaker 1: they tell you who's talking. I don't necessarily need that,
48:42
Speaker 1: but that's taking up very little real estate. I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to worry about that. Yeah, I don't need that
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Speaker 1: at all.
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Speaker 2: Um, does Jordan sound a little like Greg McElroy to
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Speaker 2: you guys?
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Speaker 1: Maybe a little. Yeah. I don't know if y'all were
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Speaker 1: watching the pregame show, but he's in a pub because
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Speaker 1: that's what we do when we go to Ireland. We
48:58
Speaker 1: got to do the stuff from the pub. Oh, they've
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Speaker 1: invented Guinness over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: By the way, we need to do away with the
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Speaker 2: Ireland game.
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Speaker 1: I don't disagree. A hundred percent. Yeah. If, if for anything,
49:07
Speaker 1: just the facility. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like a bad track.
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Speaker 1: And did they announce who next year's game is? Have
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Speaker 1: they announced it yet?
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Speaker 3: I have not.
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Speaker 1: No, it was already announced.
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Speaker 2: The play is like the blue-gray game. You guys remember
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Speaker 2: that at the old Crampton Bowl?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it was 10-7 every single Christmas.
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Speaker 1: Here's the question, Lance. I mean, it is historic now
49:28
Speaker 1: that the team that loses over there comes back and
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Speaker 1: has a losing record. Back to Scott Frost and his
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Speaker 1: team in 2022, I think every team that's lost that
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Speaker 1: game They've come back to the mainland and had a
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Speaker 1: losing record. Is that going to happen with TCU?
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Speaker 2: Well, I've got them at 6-6. I went back through
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Speaker 2: schedule this morning. I think they're 6-6, so I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to go losing. But, you know, I thought before
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Speaker 2: that game they were probably an 8-win team. But just watching,
49:52
Speaker 2: you know, I thought Jaden Craig would be better. Sonny
49:54
Speaker 2: Dykes sold him as being really, really good. Maybe he
49:57
Speaker 2: ends up, you know, progressing as the season goes through.
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Speaker 2: But I would say they're a 6-win team.
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Speaker 1: Tell me how you feel about their conference games at UCF.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's– I'll give them a win. You see
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Speaker 1: it the way down.
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Speaker 3: Hitsburg, Wisconsin is the Aer Lingus classic next year.
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Speaker 1: Hit Wisconsin, huh?
50:10
Speaker 3: Think about Wisconsinites and Irish people drinking together.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably going to be a new coach at Wisconsin.
50:16
Speaker 1: BYU at home. They lose that game. At Baylor.
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Speaker 2: It's a coin flip.
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Speaker 1: West Virginia at home.
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Speaker 2: I'll give them a win there.
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Speaker 1: Kansas at home.
50:23
Speaker 2: I'll give them a win.
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Speaker 1: At Arizona.
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Speaker 2: Tough game. That's a loss.
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Speaker 1: Kansas State at home.
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Speaker 2: That's a coin flip, but I would say a loss.
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Speaker 1: Utah home. Loss. At Texas Tech.
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Speaker 2: Loss.
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Speaker 1: That's how you're going to get to 6-6. I think
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Speaker 1: West Virginia is better than them.
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Speaker 3: Jim's on to something here, so I'm looking this up.
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Speaker 3: So they resumed this series or made it a permanent
50:42
Speaker 3: series in 2022. The loser of this game the last
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Speaker 3: four years has had a losing season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I could see TCU doing it. I was
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Speaker 1: not impressed with TCU.
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Speaker 3: Kansas State was really old. They wound up going 6-6,
50:54
Speaker 3: but were very underwhelming.
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Speaker 1: Most famously was Florida State when they lost to Georgia Tech.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And cratered after that. And it actually was kind
51:02
Speaker 1: of a launching pad for Georgia Tech a little bit.
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Speaker 1: That was the first time I think people saw, hey,
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Speaker 1: bring Keem. He may have this program headed in the
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Speaker 1: right direction. I just don't know if it'll springboard North
51:15
Speaker 1: Carolina into anything, but it has been hard to come
51:18
Speaker 1: back and get your feet under you. And to your point,
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Speaker 1: TCU doesn't play this week, right? They've got a bye
51:24
Speaker 1: week to get healthy, get rested up.
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Speaker 2: I did.
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Speaker 1: I just are splitting the G. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: I like. Yeah, that was the thing. So Jordan's, you know, he's,
51:31
Speaker 1: of course, pouring the Guinness. That's what you have to do.
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Speaker 1: And then they're trying to interview him about the game.
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Speaker 1: The two sports center anchors, Irish pub. He's just wearing
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Speaker 1: the one ear earpiece. You think he's going to be
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Speaker 1: able to hear their questions? I mean, it was just
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Speaker 1: a complete disaster. It was so much noise and nothing
51:48
Speaker 1: else but noise.
51:49
Speaker 2: I didn't get to see any of Game Day. Did
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Speaker 2: you guys watch any Game Day?
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Speaker 1: They didn't have a Game Day. The show I was
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Speaker 1: talking about.
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's why.
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Speaker 1: That's why you just saw none of it. Yeah, it
51:58
Speaker 1: was McElroy, Booger, and why can I not remember? Oh,
52:01
Speaker 1: Jesse Palmer. Um, that's twice. I forgot who was on
52:04
Speaker 1: there and I watched a lot of it. McElroy Booker,
52:07
Speaker 1: Jesse Palmer. You didn't miss a whole lot there. I'll
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Speaker 1: go and take, you know what they did on that show.
52:10
Speaker 1: They talked about the games and then they're like, all right,
52:12
Speaker 1: let's go get all the topics. Everybody's talked about all
52:15
Speaker 1: summer and let's, let's talk about those for the first time.
52:18
Speaker 1: What else is there to talk about? I know, but
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Speaker 1: they did a two hour show and I'm like, we're
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Speaker 1: rehashing everything that we've talked about all summer. Let's just
52:25
Speaker 1: bring it to the, uh, let's bring it to the
52:27
Speaker 1: ESPN show. Do you know what, uh, everybody's doing today?
52:30
Speaker 1: They're reacting, overreacting to week zero. they are virginia is
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Speaker 1: going to be here's probably gonna be your two biggest
52:36
Speaker 1: overreactions virginia being really good and florida state smu i
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Speaker 1: think everybody looks at now it's like how does smu
52:45
Speaker 1: not go beat florida state by two touchdowns yeah with
52:47
Speaker 1: that point spread yeah i think that's gonna be your
52:49
Speaker 1: two biggest over you know how that'll work out generally
52:51
Speaker 1: that means uh florida state wins that game outright i
52:54
Speaker 1: hate that for rat but That's the feel I get
52:57
Speaker 1: right now, even though I don't think Florida State's any good.
52:59
Speaker 1: A lot of the SEC with news conferences today will
53:02
Speaker 1: react to what some of the coaches are saying. Final
53:05
Speaker 1: preparations for their rosters, all the quarterback jobs are done.
53:09
Speaker 1: But in the SEC coming up, interesting starts for Missouri
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Speaker 1: with Arkansas, Pine Bluff, and Oklahoma with UTEP on Thursday
53:16
Speaker 1: and Friday. And then we get to East Carolina, Alabama
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. Kent State, South Carolina, Youngstown State, Kentucky. I mean,
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Speaker 1: as bad as the Big Ten schedule, it's about the
53:28
Speaker 1: same for the SEC. Tennessee State and Georgia, Texas State
53:31
Speaker 1: and Texas, Furman and Tennessee. Baylor-Auburn's a good one, 230
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Speaker 1: on ABC Central Time. Auburn a touchdown favorite.
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Speaker 3: In that one.
53:40
Speaker 1: We will hear from Alex Golish tomorrow on the show.
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Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun. North Alabama and Arkansas,
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Speaker 1: Missouri State and Texas A & M, Austin P. Vandy,
53:50
Speaker 1: Clemson and LSU. We'll hear from Dabo and Kiffin on
53:52
Speaker 1: the show tomorrow. Louisiana Monroe, Mississippi State, Florida Atlantic, Florida, Louisville,
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Speaker 1: and Ole Miss on Sunday night. So really three good
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Speaker 1: games out of 16 in the SEC. One top 25 matchup.
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Speaker 2: Three more good games than we had two weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: That's perspective. Time to call it quits when Lance is
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Speaker 1: the glass half full on a schedule that looks as
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Speaker 1: bad as this week one schedule. But it is better.
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Speaker 1: Then no weeks at all. That's a great point, Lance.
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