Latest / Drawn of History / Miranda Lambert _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _537(M4A_128K)

Transcript

Miranda Lambert _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _537(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: I have some new tour dates to tell you about.
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: This week I'll be in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, La Crosse, Wisconsin,
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Green Bay, Wisconsin, and Moline, Illinois, Colorado Springs, Casper, Wyoming, Billings, Montana, Missoula, Montana, Bloomington, Indiana, Columbus, Ohio, Champaign,
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Grand Rapids, Lafayette, Louisiana, and Beaumont, Texas. All tickets through theovon.com.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: slash T-O-U-R, and thank you for your support. Today's guest
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: is a Grammy award-winning country musician. She has a new
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: album called Postcards from Texas, and you know her songs,
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: The House That Built Me, Drunk, January Heart, The List
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: Goes On, Red Wagon. I'm really grateful today to get
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: to spend time with one of the queens of the
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: country music industry, Miss Miranda Lambert.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: Shine that light on me. I'll sit and tell you
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: my story. Shine on me and I will find a way.
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: Nice to see you today, Miranda Lambert.
• 1:29
  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: It's an honor.
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Yeah. It's a cozy little place.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: It's a pleasure. Yeah, yeah. We try to keep it cozy.
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: It's nice. Kind of get to, you know, just catch
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: up with folks and see what's going on. I've met
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: your husband a couple times.
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said that. Y'all are randomly on like two
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: or three planes together.
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been, we're like kind of, I guess, air
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: buddies or whatever. I don't know if there's a term
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: for it or whatever.
• 1:53
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: He said to tell you hi.
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, I appreciate it.
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: He's golfing.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: Is he? Priorities, yeah. Yeah. Well, he's just dang handsome too.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: That's a thing. I see that guy and I'm like, God,
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: I got to get some conditioner or whatever.
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: He is. He's a pretty one.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: God, he is. He's like a– and he used to
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: be a cop, right? Yep.
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: He's a retired NYPD officer.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: And did you– you guys ever play cops and robbers
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: or anything like that?
• 2:17
  Speaker 3: No, but last year or two years ago for Halloween,
• 2:20
  Speaker 3: I wore his uniform and I made him be a donut.
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: And it was awesome. Because he's super fit and doesn't
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: even eat donuts. And I was like, I'm going to
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: be a cop, and you're going to be a donut.
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: And he was like, that's just cliche. That's stupid. I
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: was like, no, it's awesome. It was my favorite.
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: That's a great idea.
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: He was pouting the whole time. He was like, I
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: don't want to be a donut.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: Dude, everybody wants to be a donut, bro. Yeah, exactly.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine not wanting to be a donut. Yeah,
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: I think everybody always just wanted to sit in a
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: box with 11 of their buddies, you know?
• 2:51
  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because that whole like cliche or whatever, but.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh yeah.
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: And I was worried I wouldn't fit in his uniform,
• 2:56
  Speaker 3: but I did. I was like, I can't fit in
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: this uniform. We have bigger issues. Like it's going to
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: be a problem. It was fun. My dad's, my whole
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: family is first responders. And so it's his family. So
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: we had that in common right away.
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, sweet. Yeah. Did you guys ever, has he ever
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: like tased you or anything like that? Or is that
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: a crazy, crazy thing?
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: No, no. And he has handcuffs and I'm like, That
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: would be the one time that the key was gone. Like,
• 3:19
  Speaker 3: we're not ever doing that. Never. It's not going to happen.
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got tased one time. Oh, if you're ever
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: in Shreveport or whatever, and you're, I guess, have some
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: free time or whatever, they will, they'll tase you there.
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: The officers there. For fun? Yeah, for, yeah, for, there's
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: not a lot to do there, I guess. And, but yeah,
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: they'll do it.
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: I grew up like, right, like an hour from Shreveport.
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, you did?
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to play over there in little bars and.
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: Casinos coming up. I actually had my 21st birthday in Shreveport. No.
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: That's pretty red.
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: Where did you guys go? To a casino?
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We were at Sam's Town, I think. My grandma
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: was a VIP there because she spends a lot of
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: money on the slots. So she got the limo and
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: all that, and I went with my grandma and her
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: friends for my 21st birthday.
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: And her friends?
• 4:06
  Speaker 3: Her friends. They're wild, though.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: They were wild.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: A lot of these seniors now, you can't. Well, you
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: see them in the pools and everything, and they have
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: those weights, and they're just doing it all. Every time
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: I see seniors, they're just getting crazier and crazier. Do
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: they have a senior citizen dating website, I wonder?
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But my granddad would just give her allowance, like,
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: stay out of my hair money. And so she would
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: just go blow it at the casino. It was the best.
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: Was she one of those grandmas that, like, at the
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: end of the year, they buy all the Christmas gifts?
• 4:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: And they all say, like, Sam's Town or whatever.
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: On the back? And she would always, like, buy and
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: then wrap them and forget that she did it. You
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? And she would be like, we'd
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: open the presents. She'd be like, I don't know when
• 4:45
  Speaker 3: I bought that or what it is.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah, they used to tase us over there, man.
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: That's real weird.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of crazy. But I think you
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: can get a taser now. Like, you can even get
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: one on Timu that also, like, beats eggs and stuff. Like,
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: they just have everything now, you know?
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think I want to be tased.
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll say this honestly. It was way easier
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: than I thought.
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you took one for the team. I'm
• 5:11
  Speaker 3: glad that's over with. Settled.
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: So your 21st birthday, you guys went over there. Was that, like,
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: the biggest city close to you guys?
• 5:20
  Speaker 3: We're right between Dallas and Shreveport. So, like, I-20, my
• 5:23
  Speaker 3: little hometown, Lindale, Texas, is, like, the halfway point where you, like,
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: stop for gas and Burger King. You know what I mean?
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: So I was there a lot. And Dallas was our, like, city.
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah. What was your first job over there?
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: I worked at Bell's. Oh, my first singing gig?
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: No, your first like human job, like a job.
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: My first big girl job. Well, I worked at this
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: little department store called Bell's for like the Christmas season.
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: They hired me to wrap presents, which I'm terrible at.
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: So then they were like, these presents are terrible. So
• 5:57
  Speaker 3: they put me in the back room to like sort things.
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: And I only lasted two weeks. I was like, I
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: just started singing and playing. I was 17, but I
• 6:04
  Speaker 3: needed like, I was not making any money. I was
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: like a starving musician. And so- I tried for that, like,
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: you know, that, like, holiday season extra money and realized quickly, like,
• 6:14
  Speaker 3: I've got to make the music business work because this
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: is not for me.
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: Because that's not it.
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: No, it was just not. I wasn't good at anything else.
• 6:21
  Speaker 3: So I was like.
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they put you in the back to sort,
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: that's not even.
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: I know I couldn't even use it. Well, because someone
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: maybe asked me, like, does this look good on me?
• 6:28
  Speaker 3: And I told her my truth. I was like, not really.
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: They're like, that's not how it works. You kind of
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: have to lie. I'm like, oh. Yeah.
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think if I– well, I used
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: to work at a pizza parlor for a while. And
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: we got late. There were cutbacks there or whatever. And
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know how there could be cutbacks. It's like
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: there was four of us working there. But I guess
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: they had like cutbacks or whatever. So a couple of
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: us got laid off. But I wonder if I ever
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: worked at a department store.
• 6:57
  Speaker 3: I couldn't work around pizza. I just– I love it
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: too much.
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We had the pizza in.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: In your town?
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: In my town.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 7:05
  Speaker 3: And had the salad bar and had little corn dogs
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: on it. And I was really happy about that.
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: They put corn dogs on the salad bar?
• 7:10
  Speaker 3: I love a salad bar.
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: That's unprecedented. Oh, I love a salad bar. Pizza Hut
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: used to have a great one. Do you remember? Pizza Hut.
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: It was like Pizza Hut, but like small town brand,
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: Pizza Inn.
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Pizza Inn. Same thing. Did they throw the
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: pizza in the air or not?
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: No.
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: No?
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: Nobody knows how to do that. Now I know. I've
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: actually seen it in real time now because my husband
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: is from New York City.
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: So I've had like legit pizza now.
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: Not Pizza Inn.
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, we had a place. I'm trying to think of
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: what it was called. But they had a big window there,
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: and some dude, I think he was a magician, but
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: they gave him, like, daytime work throwing those pizzas in
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: the air because I think it just fit in people's heads. Like, oh,
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: that's magic. That's hard. Oh, I think he really got
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: the hang of it, and it was awesome. People would
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: come from miles around to watch him, you know? You'd
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: see kids just out there just licking lollipops, just staring
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: at him, looking at this doe wizard.
• 7:58
  Speaker 3: Small-town entertainment is pretty simple. It's easy to.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: come up with oh yeah when the fair came to
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: town that was always exciting we could go to the
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: fair a day before and for 50 cents you could
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: you were kind of a guinea pig they didn't tell
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: you that but it was like come on over and
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: you can do a ride for 50 cents so we
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: lived right down the street from the fairgrounds so we'd
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: walk down there dude and you would just get rattled
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: electrocuted yeah.
• 8:24
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't trust small town fair.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: Rides yeah I just don't and I think that's probably
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: a wise choice for you you know.
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah You seem like a thrill chaser because you got
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: tased and you ride the 50 cent ride. You're just
• 8:39
  Speaker 3: going for it.
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: I've been in some bad relationships. Yeah, maybe I'm a
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: thrill chaser. If you stack all those things up. How
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: does a guy, this is news. So how does, because
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: your husband was just like a regular police officer, right?
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: How does a regular police officer meet a celebrity comfortably?
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: Do you, is that a weird thing to ask kind of?
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, honestly, like we're kind of from the
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: same fabric. So it was the weirdest part of it
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: all is the language barrier at first, honestly, because he's
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: New York accent and you hear mine. So it was
• 9:16
  Speaker 3: like any of my southern phrases, any of the like
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: redneck stuff I say, he's like, well, I don't understand
• 9:22
  Speaker 3: what you're saying. So we just met by chance, literally
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: on the street. And like six years later, it worked out.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: But was there moments where he was like, you know,
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: this is like, because I feel like if I'm a
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: regular guy, say if I met, you know, Julia Roberts
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: or I'm trying to think of somebody else, Queen Elizabeth
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: or something, and I'm trying to date them, I wonder
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: if there'll be moments in my head where I'm like,
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: how do I do this? Like, you know, do I
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: put on a special cologne? Like, how do I, just
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: because there's.
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: Some- Well, Brandon does wear the polo, like the old
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: school one.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, he does?
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: That green bottle with the little gold red one. I
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: don't know if I've seen that one. I might be
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: the sport. Yeah, maybe it was sport came out.
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, did you ever wear cool water?
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't. But she did. No, some some of
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: the fancier kids kind of did guys that had. Like
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: game with women wore it.
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: That's why I was like, did you, are you lying?
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: Did you wear the quarter?
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: Say it. I didn't have game of women. I was like,
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: I was always the guy who like would, like would
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: help my buddy open all the Valentines, like on Valentines
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: in school, they would have like the key club or
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: whatever would come in. And if somebody bought you a Valentine,
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: they give them all out in the room at the
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: same time. So my buddy would get like 11 of
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: them and I wouldn't get any. But he'd let me
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: like hold a couple of them on my desk or whatever.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: Make you feel good?
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: And it's like, hey, hold.
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: And isn't it like, wasn't it like the one where
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: you give everybody in the class one so everybody feels love?
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, when we were kids. But when it got into
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: junior high, it got like, okay, somebody had to go.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: And you would get them and he would just have
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: a stack of them. He looked like the damn bachelor.
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: You're going to get so many valentines. Now it's going
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: to be weird because you.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: Talked about it. That's a good point, huh?
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: Valentine's were nice. My mom wouldn't get us like something
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: that she would like leave by our like bed or
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: something in the morning. Like, uh, that was pretty sweet though. Um,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: but yeah, was there ever a moment where he was
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: just like, where it just seemed like nerd, like he's like,
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: I'm a regular guy and you're a, you're a regular person,
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: but then there's always like a, I think there's a
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: fear in like a regular guy's head of like how
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: you would behave around a celebrity, I guess. Does it
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: make any sense at all?
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it definitely is an adjustment to just jump
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: into country music world and move to Nashville. I mean,
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: he retired. He was eight years on the department, and
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: he sort of made the choice. We made the choice
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: together of we got to be together.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: You had to trade your gun in for a harmonica
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: It's a big deal. Well, thank God he didn't because
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he did. He loves music. He's
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: not necessarily musical. He did write a song on my
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: new record. He's a co-writer on a song on my
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: new record. Yeah. I had him writing during 2020. We
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: were all doing anything during 2020.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: Things got weird.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, if cops are writing songs. Yeah.
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: I was like, let's write songs. And so we did.
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: And he was pretty good. And I guess because, I mean,
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: growing up in New York City and like being a
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: cop on the street in Times Square, like you have
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: a lot of life lived, you know. And so this record,
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: he has a co-writer on my song called Damn It, Randy.
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: And he had some of the best lines in the song.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, wait. I've heard that one. Like in a hurricane.
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: That was his line.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: Nuh-uh.
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: Clonicot in a hurricane. I was like, dang it.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: That is a good line.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: It is a good line. But yeah, you know, I
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: think that like all the celebrity part out of it,
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: I don't care about that stuff, you know? So it
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: just made it, we're just real and regular. And like
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: I said, both being from first responder families, like we
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: kind of grew up the same.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: There was some glue there.
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: Just in different places. Yeah.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: to inspire, like, regular men out there to think that
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: they could handle it if they met a celebrity person
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: in that world, that everything could be cool.
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: They can. And you know what? It's like I'm such
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: a big stickler of, like, don't surround yourself with yes people.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: And so having a husband that's just a regular guy, like,
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: just being a cop in New York City and, like,
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: he comes into my world, but he tells me the truth. He, like,
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: calls me on my shit. He tells me the truth.
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: He doesn't sugarcoat. He sees everything for what it is,
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: and I really appreciate that. The fact that he's not
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: in my industry at all and just really kind of
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: is a straight shooter, it's such a blessing to have
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: in my life. And so I'm glad that I married
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: somebody that just is that way, that is just a
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: regular blue-collar guy that sort of comes in and enhances
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: my world and speaks a lot of truth into my life.
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: So y'all go, all y'all regular dudes, go. Go get it.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: We need you.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we need you. That's a great call.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: He also married like a country singer and a horse girl.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: And so, I mean, he signed up for a lot.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: Because horse girls are like, we're a different breed.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, dude. I just met, I went to a
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: therapy place for like a week and they had horses
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: out there. And one of the therapists like worked with
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: the horses. She was like the horse therapist lady or whatever.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah. And so like she had met there
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: hugging this big old horse. I don't think, I don't
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: know what his name was.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: I've done that too, the equine therapy. It's amazing. I
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: thought it.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: Was crazy, but it's really neat.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: It teaches you so much. Where they're like, put your
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: hand where you feel most drawn to the horse and
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: immediately put my hand on its heart. I didn't even
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: know where a horse heart was. Now that I think
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: about it, I was like, I don't know where it
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: is in that huge, giant chest. It's pretty cool.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, I had to take the horse. I was trying
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: to take his pulse and I had to do with
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: both of my hands like that. Like horses are crazy.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: They just got like 60 inches of neck on them. Um,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it was kind of wild. Cause at first
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: she's like, okay, approach the horse and let it know
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: you're okay. And so that I'm like four feet from
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: this horse. I think his name was knuckles or like
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: mitten or something. And, um, And I'm like, hey, horse,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know I'm here. Like it was
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: almost like meeting an alien because I just never even
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: been around a horse like in that much like proximity,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: like just being a horse in a pen. But by
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: the end, I got to take the horse for a
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: walk and stuff. And I felt like it was cool
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: because at first I was super nervous. And as I
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: went along, it kind of like, yeah, I kind of
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: like my idol came down. Yeah.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: You know? And they're so therapeutic just being around them
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: in general.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: They're just majestic creatures. And I think they can hear
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: your heartbeat from like five miles away or something.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Perverts.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, dude. I mean, that's eavesdropping.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: I know. But they could sense everything. It's like they
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: tell you the truth about you before you even know
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: your own truth. You're like, ah. I didn't grow up
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: around horses. I didn't start until I was 30. And
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to do something that scared me a little.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: And I always wanted to be with that cowgirl. I
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: used to play all the rodeos back in the day
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: and sing the national anthem. and small town rodeos when
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: I was first getting started and all those like flag
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: girls and the barrel racers with all the glitter and fringe.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: I wanted to be that so bad. And I chose
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: country music. And so I was like at 30, I
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to be a cowgirl. Damn it.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do this. And so I started riding
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: for the first time at 30 and now I'm really
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: super into it. I love it. But I was, I mean,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I'm still like, I'm green. I don't know what I'm doing,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: but I just love, like having a hobby completely outside
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: of what I do that's challenging and physically challenging. And
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: also it's like not up to you. It's up to them,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: you know?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude. It is like, that's the dang Lord's
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Uber dude being on a horseback.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: The Lord's Uber.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Bro, you get on a horse. It is not, it's
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: like kind of up to you because they give you
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: these little strings. You're like, these strings are not going
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: to do anything against this horse.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: No, like I just saw that pull up on the screen. I, um,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: My horse, Cool, I started mounted shooting.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, his name's Cool?
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: His name's Cool, and I started mounted shooting last December.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: And what does that mean, mounted shooting?
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: So like shooting a revolver with black powder off the
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: back of the horse at a balloon. It's super fun.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: It's spectator safe, and the horses wear earplugs, just FYI.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: The horses do?
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: They do. They wear earplugs, and the gun has black
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: powder in it. And so you do these patterns, and
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: you go like 100 miles an hour. I don't yet.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to get there. And you shoot at balloons.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: My friend, Kenda Lonsane, she's like the world champion.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Kenda Lonsane? Bring her up.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: She's a badass. She has taken me under her wing
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: and taught me so much about it.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I've never even heard of this. So it's called mounted shooting.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: So you start at.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: There she is.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Let's see that beauty.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: That's her.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: She's a beauty. I'll let her shoot me, that's for sure.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: She probably would.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: She'd probably tase you if you wanted her to.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Look, she can shoot me in the belt buckle and
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: see if my pants drop. You know what I'm saying?
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's where I'm at with her.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: She's a buckle shiner.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: But she's really great at it. So wait, explain it
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to me. I've never even heard of this.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: It's so fun. So you have two revolvers, and you
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: have five shots in each.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: And you're on the horse.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: It's a gun belt. You're on the horse, and it's
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: a timed event. So come out of the gate, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: she does it in 7.5 seconds, which I'm still learning
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: to ride good enough.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's used to a quick shot. I'm in again.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see? So you're shooting at a pattern of balloons. Oh,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: my God. And you're timed on the event. And you
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: do five shots and a gun change. So while you're
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: riding 100 miles an hour, you're having to shoot, aim,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: switch your gun, go around a barrel, go around a pattern.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Like it's very challenging.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Super fun, though. It's like the most adrenaline rush.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: It sounds like ADHD meets Yellowstone.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: But it sounds beautiful.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: It is called mounted shooting? Yeah. That's fascinating. And so
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: do you get to try that? So you have your
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: own horse. That was nice to get, wasn't it?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I bought a horse. I was one of those, like,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I did it once and loved it so much. I
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to winter in Arizona. I'm buying
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: the horse. I'm buying the guns. Like, I fully got
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: into it. But I just, you know, I feel like
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: at 30, I started riding. And then I turned 40
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: in November, last November. And I was like, all right,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: now's a new season to keep pushing myself and try
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: something that's a little scary but new and outside of
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: my wheelhouse.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Well, you look beautiful for 40.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't mean that in a flirtatious way. I
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: just mean that in a complimentary way.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I'll send you a valentine.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Okay. Please do. Yeah. Actually, your husband will get them all.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I'll sit there and hold some for him.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: He will. Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: He'll be like, hold these for me, dude.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: You're going to get so many. Watch and see. It's
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: going to be great.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: All my friends have a crush on you, by the way. Really?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: All my Nashville gal pals.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I'd love to meet any nice gal.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Okay. Well, I know some.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I've been trying to be like, yeah, more like kind
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of like brave about just like dating and stuff, you know?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Because I just get like, I start to get like
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: turning into a little bit of a homebody sometimes.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: A home so cozy.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: You know, it is cozy.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: But they say it's cozier with somebody, but then you're like,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: who is that person though?
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: It has to be the right person or you'd rather
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: be by yourself.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, dude. I don't want somebody just freaking bugging
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: me and bothering me and wanting pancakes or whatever.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Can you make pancakes?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Huh? No, I can't.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Well, you should learn because they're going to want pancakes.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: They are.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: They are.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Yeah, okay. Let me practice a little.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: The little cute ones, like my mom used to do,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: like the Mickey Mouse one, where she would, like, pour
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: the batter in the shape of Mickey Mouse.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's beautiful.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: And it was just epic, right?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, our mom had, like, one of
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: those things, and it would sit on the table, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: it had a little dial on it, and it would
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: heat the skillet like that, and you plugged it in, right?
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a, what do you call those things?
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Like a little, like a little.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like a skillet, yeah. But you
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: don't have to put it on the oven. The oven's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: built into it. And one time she did it, though,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: on her wood table, and it roasted a little hole
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: in it, and we all got in trouble for it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: How dare y'all want pancakes and make me burn my table?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: How dare you want pancakes in my house? Yeah.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Well, that's why you went to the horse therapy.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really is full circle. Today's podcast is
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: sponsored by Boot Barn. America's largest Western retailer supporting the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: cowboy and country lifestyles. Boot Barn opened their first store
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: in 1978, and today they have over 400 stores nationwide
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: located throughout 48 states, and they open one new store
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: a week across the United States. I picked these Cody
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: James 1978 boots for today's show. These boots are handcrafted
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: by the hands of 90 boot artisans who use centuries-old
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: bootmaking techniques with exotic leather, intricate stitch patterns, leather lining,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and a Goodyear welt construction. Boot Barn. Visit bootbarn.com and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: use code THEO for 15% off one item through October 30th.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: That's bootbarn.com, code THEO. You got to tour with, and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you have a new album out, I know that, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it. What's one of your
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: favorite songs off of your new album that you like performing?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Because as a comedian, there's jokes you like telling, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: then there's some jokes you're performing, and it feels that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: It feels even more vibrant. Is there a song off
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: of it that you really like performing?
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just started doing some of them because
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: we did a little thing at my bar, Casa Rosa,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: which I think is the.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: First time I met you.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the first time I met you there.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: At the opening.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: We did the whole record, which was like, it's always
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: fun to do. I've only done that one other time
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: with my record, Revolution, a long time ago. So it
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: was fun to actually learn every song. I didn't really
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: know them that well. I had lyrics up there. I
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: had a little notebook, like old school. I was like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: It's my first time to play these, you know what
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I mean? But I think, I don't know, there's one
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: on there called Armadillo. It's the first song on the record.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And my friend Aaron Raytier, I don't know if you
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: know him. He's a Nashville songwriter. Y'all should be friends
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: because he's funny as hell and the funnest.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Aaron Raytier?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Raytier.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Raytier, okay.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he sent me this song, and it's just
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: funny and quirky. So I don't know. That one's been
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: fun to do live. I've only done it a couple times,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: but it's fun.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: There he is right there.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: He's a Kentucky boy.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Aaron Reitier. That's a cool name. You got to tour
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: with Toby Keith before.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yep. What was he like? What's Toby Keith like?
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: That was one of my earliest tours. I was lucky enough.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I went on so many. Well, there weren't hardly any
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: women touring back then. Really? Well, in country, there wasn't
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: that many touring that much. I mean, in the early days,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: you got to play like 150. 200 shows a year,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: you know? So I went out with all men for
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: a long time. I learned so much from all of them.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Keith Urban was my first one, 2005. Because I just
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: played honky-tonks until then. And then Dierks Bentley and George. Toby,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I think, was my fourth big major country tour.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: And I learned a lot. I mean, oh, gosh, old school.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Look at that hair. That is like Mandel, Texas hair. Oh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: my gosh.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Little old school, tease it to Jesus, that's what
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: we say.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, the Lord does my hair while I sleep. Exactly. Wow,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: that's cool. What was Toby like? What was he like?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I just never got to meet him. I've gotten to
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: meet some different artists that I'm a big fan of.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: But what was he like as a person?
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: He was himself. You know what I mean? He was
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: authentically himself. kind of did everything his own way, an
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: outlaw in his own way, prolific songwriter. And, you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: he was kind of a tough love at first out
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: on the road. But I guess I needed that because
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I was a baby and didn't know, you know, what
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: was going on yet. I was learning all the ropes
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: of everything. And it was, I learned so much from
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: every tour I was on. And I would say Toby
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: was just like, like his fans taught me a lot
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: too because they were, really about toby only like you
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: had to work to get them to care you know
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: because they were like we're here to see toby and
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: he's his like outlaw kind of um i am who
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: i am mentality they kind of adopted that and i
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: felt like it made me work for it in a
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: good way like i had to really figure out my
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: set list and figure out like there's i'm just some
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: little gal they're not here to see me and if
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: they're here early i really need to i'm here to
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: gain fans i gotta work on this i.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Did you get to interact with him before he passed away?
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I haven't. I did see him at the BMI Awards
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: when he got the Songwriter Legend Award a couple years ago.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: So it was right before he passed away, yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: And could you tell he was sick then? I knew
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: people knew he was sick for a long time. He
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: just didn't put much out there about it, it seemed like.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: It seemed like he was very private. But I guess
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: who would want to, right?
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and I was, I mean, when he was there,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: he sounded great and he looked great. So, I mean,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: you know. that that journey is like everybody's got to
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: take that journey and however they feel comfortable and their
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: family and all that stuff but I know that he
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: was even at the end like really about the music
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: you know because the last big thing I saw him
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: at was the BMIs and it was all about his
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: catalog and I did not realize how many he wrote
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: like 150 songs a year or something like crazy like
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: just prolific and I also didn't realize how many outside
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: songs he cut, or that he had other artists cut
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: of his until that ceremony.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Is there ever a song where you write it and
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: you think it's good, but it's not for you? A lot.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, really? A lot of times. Yeah, and I, you know, it's,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I'm thankful that some artists are still willing to cut
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: outside songs. I'm one of those artists.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: What does that mean, that they're willing to cut outside songs?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Like, you can't write every, you can't cut every song
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you ever write, you know? And So for instance, Aaron
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: sent me Armadillo and I was like, I love this.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: I'm cutting it. So, you know, I think it's important
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: if you're a songwriter to have a balance of, we
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: live in Nashville. Like there's amazing songs written all day,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: every day in this town for years. And I think
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: it's cool when artists are not trying to write every
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: song on their records.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. Because at a certain point,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it almost, you're just able to help out more people
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: by picking up songs that they've written really.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and, you know, for my career, I mean, my
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: biggest songs, I wouldn't have if I would have tried
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: to write everything. I mean, like, How's That Build Me
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: is a staple in my career, and that's, I didn't
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: write that. And Mama's Broken Heart and Little Red Wagon. Like,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I have some of the staples drunk, some of the
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: staples in my set that are my career staple songs
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: are not songs I wrote. So I think it's good
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: to keep the door open to, like, you know, look
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: around town, look where we live. This is amazing.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. So many people. Yeah. And you can't do
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: things alone too. That's one thing I realized, like kind
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: of like as I get older, it's like, I used
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to want to do everything by myself. It was just
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: like how I was wired and it still is a
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: lot of times, but it's certainly, it started to alleviate
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: some where it's like, I got, I need help. I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: need people to do, and I need people to help
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: me do things and, and I can help people do things.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: And then it's more fun to do something with somebody sometimes.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like when you celebrate the highs with
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: your friends because you all did it together like a co-write,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: you know, it's fun. Like collaborating is great. Nashville is
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: such a good community for that. Like everybody's, I mean,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: you know, you live here, like everybody's so, country music
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: community is very collaborative and we lift each other up.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: We kind of stick together, you know.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's true?
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I do think it's true. For me, it has been
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: for 20 years. And not that you have to love
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: every single person you ever work with or in the business,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: but I feel like everybody's kind of in it for
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: the same reason. And there's a mutual respect there most times.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I guess. But it's also competitive, right? Yeah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: But I think that's also good. You kind of like compete.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: But I think there's a difference in my manager. We've
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: been together 21 years. And I just recently went on
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a birthday trip with her and one of her really
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: good friends who's, Born and raised in Belmede. Her name's Elizabeth.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: And she said, there's a difference in wanting to win
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: and wanting to beat everybody. And I thought that was
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: really poignant. I was like that, that it, cause that's
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: a different mindset. Like it's okay to want to win and,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: and like compete and be on top. But I don't,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think you have to want to go into
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: it going, I'm going to beat everybody.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to win at my race.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Cause that's almost, uh, it's almost Vendee. It's not Vendee,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: but it's almost, um, Yeah, I'm trying to think of
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the word. It really almost adds a negative edge to it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: It does. And I don't feel like.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Because I want somebody to lose then.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: We can all win. We just got to run our
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: own race.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, thanks for thinking about that kind of
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: stuff with me. Yeah, because I love songwriting. Oh, in Nashville,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: anything can happen.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: You.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: like you'll drop a tomato at Trader Joe's and somebody
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: will come up and have half a stanza written about it.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like great.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You get in a car accident and the guy
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: gets out of the vehicle and he's already written a
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: couple bars about the accident. And he's like, what do
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: you think of these? And I'm like, what do you
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: think about, give me your insurance papers, you know?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a title insurance papers, but it really is.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: What's in your glove box. That's a good song.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: What's in your glove box, dude. It better just be gloves, buddy.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. If there's gloves, that's weird. Why is it called
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: a glove box? Not that we talked about it. It's
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: even weirder if there's gloves in there.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: It is weirder now, isn't it?
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: And it started off by- It's only supposed to be
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: your insurance.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Because people used to put, the name is derived from
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the compartment's original purpose, storing driving gloves. Initially, the glove
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: compartment was a box near the driver on the floorboard.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Driving gloves were worn to keep hands clean and considered
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: essential equipment in early vehicles.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Driving gloves are important for women now too, because our
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: hands- they like keep you from aging because your hands
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: are on the wheel and like I didn't know that
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: but like driving gloves are.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: A thing but why does it keep you from aging
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: because the.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Sun on coming through the windshield you wear like gloves
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: while you drive so that the sun's not like getting on.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Your hands honey you're only driving a Smyrna that ain't
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Sunshine on them I don't know but I ride in
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: gloves now because of that my horse I have my
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: little gloves I'm like I don't want sun damage.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Oh I thought you ride shotgun in a car I ride.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: My horse with gloves on now because I'm like oh
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: god I don't want aging hands There's so much to
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: think about. It's a full-time job.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You don't want agent hands, though.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: No.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Because you can hide everything else, but you can't just
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: show up to something with mittens on for no reason.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: No, but Dolly does wear those sheer gloves with the rhinestones,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: and I'm kind of, like, really into that. So that's
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: a vibe.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Somebody said she's full-body tatted up.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I heard that, too, but whoever really knows the answer.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. A couple men have to.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: A couple, for sure.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how many. I mean, I know.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Is she still married or not?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to Carl. Somebody knows, and we're going to have
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of this. Does Dolly have
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: the tattoos or not? Somebody tell us.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Somebody's seen that artwork, brother. It ain't me, you know?
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I ain't no peeping Tom. I hope she does.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: That would even make her... It's possible for her to
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: be more badass.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: That makes it more badass.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, if she came out with like in one of
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: those ESPN where they do like the nude, like they're
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: pushing a baby carriage, but they're naked or whatever. If
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: she came out and she was full body tatted, dude,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it would be... Crazy, like Kat Von D, just totally.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: That'd be insane. Yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Tats are awesome.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: You have them? Yeah, I got tats. I'm not like
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: sleeved or anything because I don't know about the top,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: like the top of your arm, like as you age,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: like does it get weird? I don't know. So I
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: just have them down here where they can't like swing
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: at some point in my life. I have them on
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: my forearms. I don't want like mama tattoo arm. Don't
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: need that.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: You get a chair and then years later it's a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: swing set. You're like, oh, that's a damn fort swing
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: right there. Exactly.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Got to be strategic.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Is there an artist that passed away that like you
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: really missed their music? You missed them? Is that a
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: weird question?
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: There's a bunch.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Like one you knew maybe even?
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Haggard. Haggard. Haggard, like, he's such a, like, my number
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: one hero. And I was really sad the day he died. And, like,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I guess it was, like, the first kind of, oh,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: my God, one of my heroes is gone, you know, feelings.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to get to sing with him
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: and meet him and know his family. And so that
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: was awesome. In fact, I just saw his family this
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: past summer at the Play the State Fair and Ben
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Haggard and the family opened. But I just, I don't know.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: That was, Merle's my, like, number one, you know?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what'd you admire about him, you think, so much?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: I think that, you know, he, one of my favorite
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: quotes is from Johnny Cash, and he said, I sing
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: about the things that Merle Haggard actually lived. Because he
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: literally turned 21 in prison. Like, he told his truth. Like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: he didn't have a glamorous childhood or upbringing, and he
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: took his outlaw and sort of the, um, Troubled times
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: of his life turned him into songs and turned it
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: into a beautiful career. And every time I was ever
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: around him, he's one of those heroes that, like, is
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: exactly what you hope he would be. Like, a little mysterious,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: but super kind, you know? And it's always like, meet
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: your heroes or not. It's scary because what if they
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: let you down?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: But he never did. Like, all these pictures they're bringing up, like,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: tease it to Jesus. I mean, look at the hair.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: That is Texas hair, y'all.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: That's definitely a full crop. I mean, they got a
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: lot of rain that summer. I'll say that. That is
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: for sure. Um, what's a song that you put on, like,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: say like everybody has songs when they want to feel something. Right.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: So like you have like, man, I really want to
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: feel something right now. Like, or I don't know, I do.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of an emo kind of dude. So I'll
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: put on like, um, like I used to put on
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: like Trace Adkins, uh, Every light in the house is on,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about?
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Is that Trace Atkins?
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: You're going to say Trace Atkins, yeah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I told you.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you want the big, deep voice. Oh, yeah.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: You want to feel it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, I went through a breakup, yeah, and I would
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: sit on my porch and just smoke cigarettes. I don't
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: even smoke.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Well, everybody smokes when they break up.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. It's kind of part of it. I would
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: just smoke, and I'd play that on repeat until my
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: neighbors were like, what? Turn off the light or whatever.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: We can't handle it anymore.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I think Nobody in His Right Mind by George Strait.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I haven't even heard it.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: It's so good. It's one of my favorite George Strait songs.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: But it's just like a heartbreaker. Or like, I don't know.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: I love country. Like, I truly, like, my go-to is country.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Old country is like my jam. And George Strait, we
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: call him the king for a reason. It's a great song.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Nobody in his right mind would have left her. Even
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: my heart was smart enough to stay behind. Come on. God.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Put my fucking feelings in a wheelbarrow.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: We need to go to that horse therapy place immediately.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what else would I listen to? Oh, Lee Bryce's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I Drive Your Truck. That one's a heartbreaker.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, man, my friend Jessie Alexander wrote that song. Really? Yes,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: she did, and she's amazing. She wrote it. I don't
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: know who she wrote it with, but I know she
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: wrote it. That's a great song. Oh, it's so good.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: And Lee's delivery is, like, insane.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: See?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: But that's a song that he didn't write.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Right. And that's why it takes a group. It's like,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: but you also, if he doesn't perform it, if somebody
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: else does, who knows if it works the same? It could.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: It all has to land in the right basket, right?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Like the right song finds the right artist at the
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: right time.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The house that built me too, I had, I
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: saw some, that song, the writers of that song, it
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: took them like, they wrote that song for like seven years.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Alan Shamblin and Tom Douglas. Yes. They rewrote it and
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: rewrote it. It's seven years of writing it. But that
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: is such a lesson. Like, I'm not good at that
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: at all. Like, I'm kind of millennial about my, like,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I know I want to come into this co-write today,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: and then I'm going to leave with a song. Like, in,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: you know, four hours, you get a song, or two hours,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: or whatever it is. I don't know that I could
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: have stuck with it for seven years.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: It's a lesson to all of us to, like, be
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: patient until it's right. Because that song is, like, perfectly written.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they made, like, a real Sistine Chapel with
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: that one. Dude, I remember this kind of weird maybe,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: but like I grew up in like a pretty traumatic youth,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you know, and I heard that song just a couple
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: years ago, maybe two years ago. It was like Christmas time.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I was in my town where I grew up, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I went and got like an orchid or whatever from
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: a flower place, and I took it back to the
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: place that I grew up at, and I went. This
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: sounds really bizarre now. I wasn't doing peeping Tom or anything.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: It was like, I, I knocked on the door and
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I gave him that. And I was like, I.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Think that's really cool.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I said something nice should grow here. That's what
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I said. And I gave him that.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: That's a song. You said that to the songwriter.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: So it was interesting.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I have to write it down, but honestly.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: But it's funny that what a song can do to somebody,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: you know, because that's.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I didn't write that song, but I was like, how
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: did they know my story? Like, but my guitar player
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: that was with me for, Forever, since I was 17.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: We lost him two years ago. But he said, that
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: song hits me because it's what I wish I had.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: And that sounds like what you're talking about. And I
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: never thought about it from that perspective.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, he wished he'd had those things at his home.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Like he wished he would have had.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: The house that built him.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: But he didn't have like a healthy childhood. Yeah. So,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: you know. But I just, I love a song like that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: And the fact that they waited it out and just
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: stayed with it. is like goals. I gotta work on it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I gotta work on it.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is, yeah. Yeah, who knows like what things,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: and that's one thing that's nice about life. It's like
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: you don't know the little things you're doing now, how
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: they'll merge with like the things you're doing later on
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: and then how it'll help you form like wherever you're
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: supposed to be like sometimes it's so hard to get
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: through um just the moment you know but you don't
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: realize that the moment or the stairs that are going
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: to get you to the place you're supposed to stand
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: you know yeah um anyway Sorry, but yeah, I don't know.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Those people must have thought I was batshit crazy, dude.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: No, but it's not. The house I grew up in
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: was an old tobacco farm, and it was a house
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: built in 1905, and it was just a farmhouse, no
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: central heat and air, one bathroom, not like a farmhouse.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: We didn't have a lot growing up, but people constantly
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: stopped by there, specifically older people, seniors, and were like,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: you know, they would cry. They would just be standing
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: on the front porch crying. And I was like 10,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: like hiding behind my mom going like, trying to eavesdrop
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: and like, what are they saying? You know, that they
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: had so many memories there and those handprints were there.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: That's why I thought when I heard the song, I
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: was like, have they been eavesdropping on my whole life? Wow.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Because it was such an old farmhouse that had so
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: many stories in it and it touched so many people's lives,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: you know?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think that's one thing that's amazing
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: about art is that it can do that. I mean,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I think you could, it's just powerful, you know, that
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the beats and the words and you put it all
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: together the right way and it unlocks something.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: It does. And it's like, everybody feels like, okay, I'm
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: not alone in this world. And this is this, whatever's
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: happening to me, good, bad or ugly. I'm not the
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: only one.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: That's the beauty of a song or any art really, truly,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: but especially songs. I love, I'm, I'm, I'm in awe
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: of songs. I'm a songwriter. I'm a song lover, a
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: music lover. Like, Especially country ones, because we just tell
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: the sad truth no matter what. Like, you get in
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: your feels, you know?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: So what do you listen to when you're, like, wanting to, like,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: rage or, like, rock out?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll put on before, well, I mean, before
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I go on stage, I listen to FGL Dirt. It's
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: a little up-tempo for me, but it's also kind of chill.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like down home and grounding.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And then I'll put on a little bit of Boosie
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Badass and listen to him, so I'll turn it the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: other way, you know? I might even go some Sexy
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Red or something like that. I don't go anything too crazy.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes I'll put on maybe like Soundgarden or like...
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I've been listening to Stephen Wilson Jr. recently.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with that record.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: God, it's so good.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Golly, it's great. I actually have a rock coming up
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: with him.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: You do?
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, my God.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: What are you going to wear? I know.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: It's like, I wrote with him and Natalie Hemby recently,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: and we wrote this song called, well, the hook is,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I don't want to see the movie if the dog dies. Like,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: all of us are sitting there crying. It was just
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: like the most magical ride, and it was Stephen's idea, obviously,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: shows up with that.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: And my dogs were there, and they're seniors, and I
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, God.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: And they're scared. They're like, hey, let's don't finish the song.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: No, he's so great. I love him, but I also
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: love that you said Soundgarden, because mine is audio slave. Like,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: that's my.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Girl, what do you wear while you listen to it?
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: People are like, what do you, what would people be
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: surprised to know about you? I'm like, huge audio slave hand.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I just like, nail in my hair. I just get
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: all ragey.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Female rage is a thing, you know. It's like my
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: bread and butter.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, look. Yeah, no, I definitely notice that some of
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: it's in you, you know. And yeah, I've been victim
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: of it for sure, dude. I've got a couple angry
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: women in my texts, in my D, in my dang.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: In your ding dang DMs.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: In my ding dang DMs, yeah, but. Yeah, it is.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: It's just interesting how a song will get you activated
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: or get you ready for a certain moment or something.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Did you ever have to play at a funeral or anything?
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Did you ever get asked to do.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Something like that? Oh, God, I can't. I'm not good
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: at it at all. I get too emotional.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Did you ever have to or not?
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to sing at my grandma's, and I
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: had to sing at a friend that was my age.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: That was the worst one. Oh, God.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Was it the first funeral you ever went to?
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: It was the first reality check teen years ago. high
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: school friend you know what i mean and her family
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: asked me to sing and i did but it was
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: it was just one of the hardest things i've ever
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: done i i really i don't i know so i
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: did i but you know when you're given a gift
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: like what are you gonna say i'm not gonna use
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: it to celebrate someone that was amazing you have to
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah get on up there miranda yeah who floored my
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: good god Yeah, man. Oh, one time I was at
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: a funeral and the person that sang, it was a girl,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and she was so nervous she started singing the Star
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Spangled Banner.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: On accident?
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, man. Wait, you shouldn't sing that.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Somebody had to go and kind of grab it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Hardly anyone should sing that. Hardly. Let's just talk about it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: It's time to talk about it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Especially if Kenny's right there in the casket and she's
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: just like, who's? People were like, we can't even be
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: here right now.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Honestly, there's like four people on earth that should sing
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: that song. And that's it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: And she made it to like this. And people wait.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: And some people started going like this. I was like. No, no. Yeah,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: because part of it is.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I just feel so uncomfortable right now. I'm going to
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: go down those spiral stairs and leave forever right now.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Those only go up.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Just thinking about it. Oh, and. They only go up.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: A lot of us were like, what? I thought. What happened?
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: He wasn't even in the service.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: No.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: The whole thing got really confusing, man. I've been at
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: some weird funerals. My dad was 70 when I was born.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: He was an older man. And so. He had to
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: get me a suit for a funeral one time, right?
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And it was around Halloween. He got me a Beetlejuice costume.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Like the pinstripe.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: And like a costume version, though. Like not even– I
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: don't even know if it was real textile.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Did they just think you were like stylish?
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was real textiles or whatever.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so I go to this funeral, dude, in
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: a dang Beetlejuice costume, bro. And I guess it was
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: kind of– Yep, I guess.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: How old were you?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I was probably 11 or 12.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: So like already awkward years, so that didn't help?
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: It was horrible.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: But, you know, I guess that's what happens when you
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: send a senior citizen to the– it wasn't Rite Aid
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: back then. It was called KMB. It was a store
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: they had that had them a couple of costumes over there. But, God,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: it was– yeah, that was too much. But, yeah, anyway,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: funerals are a lot.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, they are.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: So sorry I brought that up. Yeah.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't have anything to say to that.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry about that. It seems terrible.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I heard a rumor that you got to meet Gypsy
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Rose when she was a Make-A-Wish kid. Is that true?
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: I did. I met her several times.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Do you remember it? Yep.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: There's a lot. Look at that hair, that crunchy hair.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I got that Aussie scrunch spray going in my hair.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: The hair is coming along as these photos go forward.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I've met her several times. Super, super sweet girl.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: And what was her mother like?
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Like, I believed her.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, I did. Like, when all that came out,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I was freaking out.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: That's what I was wondering. How did you feel? Did
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: somebody just tell you, oh, my God, do you see
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: what just happened?
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like somebody texted me and was like, have you
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: seen this documentary? I'm like, what? What's happening? And now
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: I've been down all the rabbit holes of it. I'm
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: like in it. I'm 100% now she's pregnant. I watched
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: all the things. She seems to be thriving. Yeah.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, she's had a crazy childhood.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: The whole thing was crazy.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm just saying. I can't even imagine how
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: crazy it was. Like, if something like that would... Because
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: you have these moments in your life. You're being supportive
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: of somebody. They're dealing with a disease, a syndrome. And then...
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: But it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Was real to her. I mean... Oh, totally. So she
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: was a child. Yeah. She was a baby child.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: But then suddenly it'd be like a national thing. And
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you're like, what is going on?
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I can't believe I was part of that. But I'm...
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: You know, you don't know at the time and neither
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: did she. So it was just like, you know, her,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, her mom worked the system and it worked
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: because we have all met her, like the whole country
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: music community. Like ask any of us. She was part
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: of it. She was in it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She was hobnobbing. Oh, that's interesting.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A lot of us.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: That gets kind of crazy too sometimes, you know, but
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: if that's what the child loves or something.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: But she did. And Gypsy was very genuine.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Really, truly.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: That's just such a cry. I heard that. I was like,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: this can't be true. It's just so crazy.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Did, um, has she, have you reached out? Have
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: you guys, has she reached out to you since? No.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, that was so long ago. She might just
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: put all that behind her, which I would if I
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: were her, you know, the whole thing. I don't know.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Some of y'all songs are so good. I don't know
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: how you could put it all behind you.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see if she comes to a show.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Um, yeah, that's just a crazy thing that I heard.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: So I was like, is this the truth or not?
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: It's on Google. It's gotta be true.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Well, now you know chat GPT is kind of getting
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: better than Google because there's not advertising on it.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. My brother's like super smart, like really a techie,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: and he's telling me all about this stuff. When we
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: first met, I was like, who's Chad? He kept talking
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: about chat, and I was like, who's Chad? And then
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: he asked it to write a song at Father's Day.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: We had Father's Day in New York with my husband's family.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: We're sitting around, you know, with like forced family fun.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: You have to like think of things to do. And
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: so my brother's like, I'm going to ask chat to
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: write a Miranda Lambert song. And I was like, okay.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: And it did. And it didn't have a melody, but
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: it just the lyrics. And it was called whiskey and wildflowers.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: And it was kind of good. I was like, Oh God,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Oh God, my career's over. It's happening. Do I get
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: a royalty? Will it go on tour? Tell me all
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: the answers.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Chad GBT there it is dude that's definitely there it
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: is the redneck version of Chad GBT is Chad GBT.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: That's what I thought I was like who's Chad he
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: was like I'm saying chat and I was like.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Oh and it's like how do you get to New
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: York City you put in there and it's like how
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: much gas money you got you know what I'm saying I.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Know like it has a different voice like it has
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: like a Hick voice.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: That'd be funny.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: That'd be great. Having Chad GP too. That'd be so good. Hey, Chad.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: How do I fix this two-stroke motor, bub? That'd be
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: so good, dude. Somebody has to come up with that. Yeah,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: whiskey and wildflowers, sitting on the porch, sun sinking low,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: memories of you like a river flow. Your laugh still
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: lingers in the evening air, but love's a wild ride.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Why does it talk about drinking when it's my song?
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm holding on with care.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: They're judgy. Chad's judgy.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: And then the pre-chorus, got a bottle in my hand
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: and a heart full of scars. Full of scars.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: That sounds like Trace Atkinson.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Well, it also sounds like you're a pirate. So that's
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the crazy part of this.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: It's so stressful.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: But this is also like Chad GPT is a newborn.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: You have to think in a few years if it
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: starts to really get like the ability to do some stuff.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if it would ever take over
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: like the human ability to feel and stuff and actually
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: create music that's based on real feelings.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think it could do it. And that's the,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: you know, it's all weird.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to stay hip and cool. But it's weird.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm not going to be that hip and cool.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: That's weird.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Why don't you have feelings anymore?
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Like you have to go to a museum to see feelings,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: like somebody's smiling behind a piece of glass. You're like, oh,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: remember that?
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Remember that? Oh, there's a tear. This is a fossilized tear.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: That you're looking at.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: We don't even have those anymore. Yeah, I'm on the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: pill that makes you can't cry. Remember when people had those?
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: But that could be a real thing one day.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: I know. But maybe we'll be long gone and doing
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: something else by then, hopefully.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I hope I'm in the dang stars or definitely just,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope something happens to me. I
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: hope I'm in a dang time capsule. You live in
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Nashville and Texas for a bit. How has Nashville changed
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: over the years to you?
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: It's popular now. Everybody wants to come here. It's the city,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: which is awesome. I think the fact that country music
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: is thriving right now and our town is a destination,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I love that. Because these honky tonks have been here
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: for ages and kind of like it's the music of
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: our lives, you know, of my life. And so people
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: are wanting to get a little glimpse of it. I
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: love that.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I don't love that the roads aren't really made for
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: all these people yet, but we'll get there.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Some of these roads are damn homemade, too. I'm like,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: what is somebody? You see somebody just put a damn
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: cake batter in a pothole out there, you know?
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: It's just people are filling with anything. I drove through
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: something the other day.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Cake batter. Cake batter.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, I drove, yeah, people are using anything to fill
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: them now. There's so many potholes, especially in January around
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: that time.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I drove through something the other day and had damn
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: devil's food all over my tires. I was like, shit's
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: getting weird out here.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Was it Dolly's brownie mix?
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Is that a thing? Those are good.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Dolly has her own brownie mix? Have you tried them?
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: The Duncan Hines brownie mix?
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Well, Dolly has everything. And I bought them.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Of course I bought them.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: And I was like, there it is. Of course I
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: bought them.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Because they don't have like oil in them. You know
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: how the box brownies have oil? Nope. She has milk
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: and eggs in them. And butter, like real ingredients. They're delicious.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I love that. Dude, what I used to love was
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: whenever our mom would make something, dude, and she would
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: let us lick those things that were in the.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: The raw egg. She let you lick the beaters.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Lick them beaters, boy.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Beaters.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: Now they're called kitchen mixers.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: But my mom had, like, the Walmart brand beaters.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kitchen mixers is a little bisexual for me, okay?
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. My husband has the KitchenAid, and he's obsessed with it.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: He does all of the things. He makes homemade pasta.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: He has all the, every accessory you can have for
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: a KitchenAid. He's, like, in it.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: He's in there.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: He's not doing, like, old school beaters.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: We don't even have those.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Put them beaters on there, honey.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: But I was like, your mom was like, don't eat
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: too much of it because it's raw eggs. Yeah.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: And we'd be like, hey. Bro, and the crazy thing was,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: some of the whatever was in it, I mean, we'd
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: eat them.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: It's like that grainy stuff. Yeah. Granules.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: It had a little bit of, like, yeah, it had, like,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. Who cares? You didn't
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: even give a damn. Nobody cares. But the crazy part was,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: some of it, if you started licking the beater at
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the top, then some of the stuff would flow down
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: in your hand. So you'd get all the, then you're
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: just licking your own hand with that, still holding on
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: to that beater.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: And then somebody would, like, accidentally put soapy dishwater in
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: the bowl, and you're like, no! Oh, yeah.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: It's over!
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: It's over! Because, dude, if you could get even part
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: of your head in that dang bowl, you know, I
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: just wanted to grow. I just wanted to grow longer.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I would pray to God to make my tongue longer
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: at night.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a whole different episode.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, sorry.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: That's for the Trace Atkins episode.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I told you I'd leave. Yeah, you're right. Things
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: have changed. What's a place that you miss in Nashville
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: that's not here anymore?
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: I kind of miss old losers. Like? Old Losers was like,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I love Losers still, but like Midtown, it was like
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: just one little shitty dive bar with like darts in
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: the back and smoke and like a great jukebox and popcorn,
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: you know? And now it's like three stories and the
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: rooftop and all the things. But it's still great. But
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I kind of miss like the little, like the divier
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: the better, you know?
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, now they still have the back porch over
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: there you can go kick it at sometimes.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that little deck. I have a little sign up there.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: It says Miranda Lambert Way. It's hanging up there.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Do you?
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Have you been on the VIP deck?
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a couple times. Go look for it.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: John Daly's usually out there. Yes.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: He's usually out there waiting for an ambulance.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I put in a lot of late-nighters to get that sign.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I bet you did. I didn't even think about that.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: You have to drink a certain amount of Tito's out
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: of a shitty plastic cup to get your sign up there.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: And I have one, so.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: And at least it says way. It could have ended
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: up being Miranda Lambert cul-de-sac.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, no. See, that wouldn't be as cool. No.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Drive, way, road.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Not cul-de-sac.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember when somebody put a damn cul-de-sac. First
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: time I ever saw one, I was like, what is
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: this shit? What do you mean you can't keep going?
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Just fucking hurt my feelings, boy. I said, we'll see
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: about that. I'm going to call the damn sheriff. We'll
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: see about this.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I can't find a picture. I have one on my phone.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: What else was I thinking about? Oh, if you had
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: to travel back in time, right, if you had a
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: time warper, and it could have a hemi on it
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: or whatever, I don't know how you like to travel,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: but if you had a time warper, what time back
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: in your life would you go to, do you think?
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Right now. I think I'd just stay right now. I
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: feel like I've done it, but I'm still learning. Somebody
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: asked me that the other day, like, what's your most
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: fun era? And I was like, right now. Like, still
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: young but like not dumb you know i mean yeah
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: you know that that whole vibe where you learn a
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: lot um early 30s were weird late 30s were fine
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: but like now i'm like what we're doing right now
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: you're like we're here we're here everybody's just like 40s
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: is the best decade i'm like let's roll yeah we'll
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: see yeah i believe it yeah here we go.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah um Tell me something else that you think about. Oh,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the new song is Damn It, Randy on your new album.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Who's it about, man?
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Well, it's about Randy.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: It's about Randy. Everybody has a Randy in their life.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Everybody has one. And it's about just a time where
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I was like, this is not good. It's not serving
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: me anymore. I got to move on.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: And was it serious or was it just somebody that
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: didn't install y'all's cable well or something?
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Well, it depends on the person. Everybody's got a Randy.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Damn it, Randy. Right?
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: And I wrote it with John Randall, who's one of
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: my besties, and his real name is Randy. So I
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: always say that to him anyway, so it's kind of funny.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: And that's the one that Brendan's a writer on.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I was flying a kite in the middle of a hurricane.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: There it is, that little songwriter.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: What else was I thinking about? what drives you at
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: this point in your career? I know this is kind
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: of a general question, but like you've gotten to have notoriety.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: You've had number ones, you've won Grammys, you've won, you're
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: a household name. You have, you can afford to pay
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: your rent. You know, it's like, what, what goals are
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: there still for you? Or do things evolve from goals
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: into like just wanting to still do the job? I'm
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: just curious. And it's stuff I go through in my
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: own life too with comedy, you know, I'm just curious,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: what do you think about that?
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: You know, I am lucky enough to have reached a
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: lot of the goals that I set when I started
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: this journey. I mean, I was 17 when I was
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: chasing music, that's what I'm doing.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And people are like, fuck, you'll be at a
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Dairy Queen in two months.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was like, okay, see y'all next time.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Like, well, I'll be singing in the drive-thru, damn it. Exactly.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like now I'm just, like, open.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to be open to... I'm not walking around
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: saying I'm going to do this and this and this.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: I'm just absorbing what's around me and being open to
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: new opportunities and meeting new people and also saying no
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: to the right things. I think that's a big part
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: of it because you can save your energy for the
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: right things if you just say no to the things
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: that are not right for you. That's kind of where
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: I'm headed and where I've been living in the past
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: couple years. Um, cause I realized like, if you put
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: all your energy into the wrong people and the wrong things,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: then you don't have any openness or any time or
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: energy left for the right things. And then it's too late,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: you know? So I think I'm just in this space
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: right now where I'm like, what's next? What, I mean,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: this is new. I've just started doing podcasts. Like I've
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: never done that before until this year.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: You've done a good job. I've watched some of them.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm new to it. And I'm not great at talking.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: I'm a singer. I'm in front of people. I'm actually
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: an introverted extrovert. I have an extroverted job with an
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: introvert personality. And so I'm branching in that way. I'm
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: fine to say my truths in songs. It's just harder
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: to do just you know, saying it out there, but
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's important either way. So I don't know.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: My goals are like, what's next? Let's do something that
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: scares us. Let's do something that's, you know, makes you
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: grow and makes you learn.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: That's true, huh? Yeah. Sometimes it's so weird. I feel
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: like when you're involved in some part of the arts
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, people call them and some people
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: just call them music and comedy and painting or whatever. But, um,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: It's weird to also kind of evolve because it's like
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: you age, right? We age and you're like, well, some
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: songs I can't even really sing anymore. Some jokes I
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: can't even really– I could tell them still, but is
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: it really going to be true to where I'm at?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I find that that's interesting about art itself is you
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: have to– but then you're like, but if I change,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: will I still have the people who like this thing?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like how do you keep the common thread
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: and keep reinventing? It's a tiny little fine line you
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: have to walk. And it's scary because what we do
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: is very public. And what we signed up for and
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: what we started saying or the jokes we told at
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: 20 or the songs we wrote at 20, we're not
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: in the same life space and we're not in the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: same lane anymore. So it's like figuring out how to
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: do that gracefully but still keep that common thread of
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: where you've been and where you're going but kind of
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: walk this line of staying authentic. To the true you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: that started this whole journey. And comedy is the hardest
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: thing in the world. I think that would be the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: literal hardest part of the arts of any art. I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: really do. Really? Yeah. I just respect it because it's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: the most vulnerable. Like standing up there in front of
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: people and just telling jokes and hoping that it lands.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: And there's no ban. It's just you.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, God. I wish somebody would pull up with
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: a drum sometimes.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Just like. Start playing a drum solo immediately if you're like, no,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: this one didn't happen.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Take it away, Henry. You know, just turn it over
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: to somebody.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: You don't have anybody to like lean on up there
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: by yourself like emotionally naked.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, in the beginning, it's so scary, I think. God,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I can't even believe something you think back. And I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: don't mean it like I'm not trying to fill my
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: own ego. But when you think back, like, I don't
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: know if I'd go do it now. But, yeah, you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: get up there that first time, and you're just like,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: this is going to be good. You don't even believe yourself.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: You're just screaming that to yourself in a car, in
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: a Ford Taurus. You're like, this is going to be good.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Like in your best Chris Cornell voice.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: Beefing yourself up. I don't. The fact that you said it,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: you don't know if you'd do it now. I think about,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: I knew like three.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: It makes me nervous.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: I know. I just got anxiety. I think about like
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: I knew three chords and I was like walking in
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: these bars like, can I play at the set change?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Like I just I got to get some experience. And,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: you know, it's that thing of like, how do I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: get experience if you don't let me play? And then
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: but then you say I can't play because I don't
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: have any experience. Just put me on set change then
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: and I'll play my three songs that I just learned yesterday.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Like not good, but just being brave anyway. I don't know.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: We did it.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah. I know the ones that hurt, too.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Do you ever show you a memory that really just
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: kind of burned you or just like, God, this is hard? Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Like a birthday or anything? Like you ever get to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: play one of those Arab birthdays or something?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: The private parties. I'm so thankful for private parties. I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: love them. I would love to play your private party.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: But some of them can be hard. Yeah. You know?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: I played a Sweet 16 one time. And this thing
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: was the most extravagant party I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: And it was a bunch of 16-year-olds. And they only
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: wanted me to do four songs. Michelle Branch was part
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: of it, Leigh-Anne Rimes, and me. And we each did
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: four songs. And, like, this thing was, like, legit. It
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: was in Washington, D.C. And these kids were dressed to
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: the nines. They all had on, like, everything designer. And
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, I was working at Bell's when I
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: turned 16.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I want to rob those bastards. We were dressed to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: the threes, honey. Yeah. Okay.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. The three of us combined, we
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: was a nine.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, that was one that sticks out in my mind.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, Lord, this is bougie.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. We remember I had hand-me-downs from damn women.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't have an older sister.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I was wearing shit. I was like, whose shit is this?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Stuff that whatever was around. My mom was like a
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: big thrifter. So big thrifter. I'm like, I found, but
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: this is awesome. So it was in the Doc Martin heyday,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: and we couldn't afford those. Those were very nice. They
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: were very nice.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: God, that's where Mother Hubbard lived in one of those.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I heard they were fancy.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: We went to Goodwill a lot, and I found a
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: pair of Doc Martens for $ 7, and they were new.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: And I went to school, and my mom's like, just
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: tell everybody you got them at GW's. And say it's
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: like a nice store in Dallas. So I forever was like,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: these are my Doc Martens I got at GW's. It's
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: a nice store in Dallas. Just flat out live. And
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: I was like, $ 7 Doc Martens. That's a score.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: That's $ 3. 50 a foot, honey. Let's party.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: That's the rest of the threes.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's like putting each foot into a dang Sheraton.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: That's really nice.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Sheratons have pretty good beds.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: You know what I do notice after touring and going
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: to hotels and stuff? One thing that bugs me now
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: is if the mattress is too soft. And I don't
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: mean it in a negative way, but it's like your
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: back starts to fall apart and you start to realize
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: how many bones you have in your body as you
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: get older. And you're like, this isn't holding anybody up.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: You figure out like, but is your continental breakfast like
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: just Froot Loops or is it like hot breakfast?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: It's those things you start to. Like, really appreciate it
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: on the road. Like, do y'all have real eggs or
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: are they powdered eggs? Because you can't say hot breakfast
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: if it's powdered eggs. That doesn't count.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: Doesn't count.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's more MREs. Like, it's like MREs but with
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: a television that's on ESPN, you know? Like, they'll have
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: that set up. Yeah, God. I think, yes, I remember
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: we used to go to the Continental Breakfast and we
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: would pretend like the people there were waiters or whatever.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: We weren't even supposed to be there. We weren't staying
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: there at the Holiday Inn. And we would go up
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: there and eat up there. My stepdad would take us
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: up there.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: But you're not staying there.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: Uh-uh.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: And we'd go in that bitch and dine, honey. You
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: And when they have happy hour, and it's in a box,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: but I'll take it. It's fine. Boxed wine sounds great.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite party, like birthday party that
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: you ever had so far? I know you just turned 40,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: you said.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: I think it was this one.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Was it?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Did y'all go back to the casino?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: No. We went to... Billy Bob's on a Monday. Billy
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: Bob's like the biggest.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, in Texas.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: In Fort Worth. Yeah, in the stockyards. My friend Gwen,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: she sings with me and my band for 13 years.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: And she was like, where do you, because I was like,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to do. There's so much pressure
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: on that birthday. Yeah. You know, like the big, those
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: zero ones. You're like, I don't, I just would rather
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: do nothing. Like I shut down. And she was, we
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: were getting our hair done. And she was like, it
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: was typical getting your hair done in the foil. So
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: she's like, where do you want to turn 40? And
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: I was like, she was like, I feel like you
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: want to turn 40 at home in Texas. Go back to,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: To the root, full circle. And I was like, I do,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: I think. And so Billy Bob's gave me the bar
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: on a Monday because they're closed. And we had barbecue
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: and a bunch of my Texas friends, Randy Rogers and
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Wade Bowen and Adam Hood played. And it was just
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: a big old honky tonk night. And it was like,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: it felt like, man, this is like why I loved,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: why I started this in the first place. Like, I just,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: I've been playing Billy Bob's for so long and going
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: there to see shows. And so I think that was
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: my favorite birthday so far.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: That's perfect. Well, that's the most recent one, you know.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: What else was I thinking about? Anything in the news
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: that we could think of? We'll get you out of
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: here soon, too, Miranda. I know you guys have a show.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: You have a show tonight.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: No, I don't. Tomorrow.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, tomorrow night.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Tomorrow night. Yep. Singing for the doggies.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, for your pups?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Music for mutts, yeah. It's a benefit for Mutt Nation.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Music for mutts. And what qualifies a mutt, actually? Just.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Us. Probably. I don't know. I have just rescue animals,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: and they're just all mixed little puppers. I started a
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: foundation in 2009 called Mutt Nation Foundation with my mom.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: With your mom. Yep.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: That's her. And we've raised over.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: $ 10 million since then.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: $ 10 million? $ 10 million. Wow. We raise awareness for adoptions.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: for spay-neuter, for adopt-don't-shop. And like right now with the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Hurricane Helene, we're doing a lot of work with Tractor
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: Supply Rescue Relief and with Greater Good to, you know,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: people are first, obviously, but there's tons of shelters down
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: there that were already overcrowded and got hit. And so just, it's,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of moving parts. So really what our
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: foundation does is kind of meet the need, whatever the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: need is, you know, whether it's lifting up shelters, giving
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: them grants for renovations, natural disasters, we kind of run
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: the gamut, but our main focus is to encourage people
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: to adopt.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: And once someone creates something like this, this foundation, right? Yeah.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: So this is a nonprofit organization. How do you raise
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: funds for it? Obviously you can do fundraiser shows, you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: can put your own money into it. And then how does,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious, how does a nonprofit even– well, I
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: guess those are the ways. You put money into it
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: or you do fundraisers.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've done fundraisers. I sing for the pups. I mean,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: we haven't done a music one. But like for my
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: Vegas residency, we gave a dollar a ticket, and I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: was there for two years. So a dollar a ticket.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: We've done that on tour where a dollar a ticket
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: goes to Mutt Nation. And then this is our first
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: benefit show in a couple years. Wow. I'm excited. I
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: got some friends coming out to sing, some surprises.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: It'll be fun.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Can any of the animals ever tune in? Any of
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: them ever hit a B sharp or something? And have
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: you ever trained any? No.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: My mom has this terrible shitty dog, though. His name
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: is Rhodey. And he's just like my dad. I know.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: My dad found him on the side.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Was he held back in school? Yes.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: And he has an underbite. And he's a Chiweenie. It's
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: like the worst of all the world.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: And he's like my little shitty brother now. And that's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: what she calls him. Because me and my brother, my
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: real brother, are like, God. sibling of ours is terrible
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: and he will sit there my dad plays guitar and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: write songs and it's specifically george jones he stopped loving
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: her today when dad starts singing that that thing howls
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: and it's like this screeching awful noise and you have
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: to put it away like you have to put the
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: dog in the house and it's still you could hear
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: it howling and then my that part where they go
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: you stopped loving me That thing howls, and it's just like,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: and my parents think it's cute, which is even worse.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: I know. It's the worst. So, yeah, they could be,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: some dogs sing. Do you want them to? Absolutely not.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: But if you could organize them.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. We could do like a family choir.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Get you a
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: little batch of hounds in those church gowns or whatever.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we could do it. I mean, anything can be done.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: We could ask Chad. Chad will do it.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: That's Chad GPT. Hey, organize these mutts, guys. Was there
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: two pieces of news? Anything else in the news? What
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: were the top two news stories that we had in there?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: And we don't have to talk about this either if
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: you don't, if it's an awkward thing. Yeah, Garth Brooks
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: got accused of harassment. Did you ever know him as
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: a bad guy? I always heard the nicest things about him.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know him. I just heard this today, so
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: I have not been down the news rabbit hole of this.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: So it's fresh off the press. I have nothing to
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: say about it, but I want to read it. I mean,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: I'm going to read it like everybody else. I'm going
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: to read it. I want to know.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I've always heard the nice things about him.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: But he's always seemed kind of mysterious to me in
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: a way. Like he always seemed like he's done his
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: own thing, I guess. You know? He was the biggest
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: artist when I was a kid.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: He was my first concert.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Was he?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Yep, when I was 10 years old. Night two at
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: Texas Stadium. And he flew in. He like dropped out
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: of a helicopter and they When he did standing outside
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: the fire and they lit the whole stage on fire.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, this is bad. But I
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: had braces, but only two because I had a gap.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: So I had to do the gap, close the gap
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: on the front two teeth.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: So just those two?
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Who had? I haven't even heard of that.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: Well, this was a while ago. How does it even?
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: They should never do this to a child ever again.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: How does it even work? Now they have like Invisalign.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: It's not fair. Kids these days don't have to be ugly.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: Like we were ugly. Like we had to just, I
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: had scrunchy hair and Jesus and braces and all things. But.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: I had the two races when I saw that Garth
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Brooks show. And I had on my Rockies. Do you
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: remember those jeans that were like real high-waisted with no
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: back pockets? And so everybody's butt looked real long.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: And the label was black and white lettering?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Rockies, yeah. And I had on those. And they were red.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: I had on my Roper boots. And I was so excited.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: My flame shirt. I was like my brush popper. And
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: he came in and dropped out of that helicopter. And
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: I was just like. And I was, like, screaming. And
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: I was, like, waving. But I only had the two.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: And I had, like, pink rubber bands on them. So just, like, totally.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: And it was in that area where you would, like,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: curl one bang up and one down and tease it.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: And it would look like a big cloud.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was never an era. But tell me more
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: about it. It was so bad.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: It was so bad. And I just was so excited.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm going to be a country singer.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: It was epic.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Standing outside.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, I was just singing all of it. And I
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: would get so excited when I could say, damned old rodeo.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: My mom would be like, that's cuss word. And I'd
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: be like, well, Gar said it, so I get to
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: say it.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Dude, the beaches of Cheyenne. So many good songs.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: So many. Yep. That No Fences record. I bought the tape.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: I'm older than you, but I had the cassette tape.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you are, and we used to
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: play that tape together. Oh, we used to play. They
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: used to have this thing called Crying, Loving, or Leaving
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: on the radio. Do you remember that?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, I loved that. Did you record the countdown?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Same. And you had to push the button at the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: exact right time.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But for two years, the number one song was
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Whitney Houston.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: I will always love you.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, gee, can we just do something? Can't
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Red Hot Chili Peppers do something? Why can't we do
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Scar Tissue? It was the number one song for so long.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, something's got to happen, man. We need
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: a war in this country. I was just like, we
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: got it. We needed something new in there. But yeah,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: that was, and that's when all the music, some of
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: the channels, even it was all one, that top 40
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: was anything was in there.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everything. Because it was Casey Kasem.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: So it was like all of the songs. Like it
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: wasn't just one genre.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Crying, loving, or leaving was it though. Hey, Ernie, where
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: are you? And he's like, yeah, I'm over here in Davenport, Iowa.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: First time caller. He'd be like, you crying, loving, or leaving, Ernie?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: And he'd be like, I'm loving.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: I want to see if we could like find that
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: and listen to it. Like I wonder if it exists
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: somewhere on YouTube or something. I would totally listen to that.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I called in. I called in two times.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Got through. I called in 60, 75 times.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: What were you doing? Crying, loving, or leaving?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: I was loving one time and then I was leaving
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: one time. I was going to leave home. I was
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: going to go to the post office and mail myself
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: somewhere else. That was my goal. And they're like, you
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: can't do that, buddy.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: You're going to mail yourself somewhere else.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: That'd be kind of cool. I'm here.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, I rode my bike all the way over there.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: And it was closed. I thought it was open 24
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: hours a day. I'm like, What the hell can you
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: guys can even... But just learned a lot that year.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Crying Lover and Leaving. Play one of them
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: real quick for us if you can.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: It exists. Perfect one to pick, by the way. Perfect. Perfect.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: There's no way we did not... That is so perfect. Perfect.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I swear to God.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: That was one of them.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: We did not pick that on purpose. I had no
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: idea we.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Were talking about that.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: That was actually perfect.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: My first wedding song, guys. Let's play that.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Was it really? I'm sorry. It was. You believe that
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: we did not do that on purpose?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: We did not do that on purpose.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: We just manifested all of that.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I would never do that on purpose.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: We're crying, loving, and leaving now.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Leaving.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: That's what it is. Done left.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All three.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: We need to do a new spinoff of it.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: They should have it. Look. I wonder if Kix Brooks
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: does something like that because I know he has a
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: weekly show or something.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: He should.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: But that was it, man. When you were a kid
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: waiting to hear if somebody was crying, loving, or leaving,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: you didn't even know.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: I'm going to listen to these. Not that one in particular.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Where people were. Yeah. If they did that on purpose,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: It's pretty funny.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think they would do that.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: It's pretty funny.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: They're too nice of guys to actually do that. About
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: the new album, what else? What's new about it? What
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: feels new to you about it? Obviously, you have new
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: tunes and that sort of thing. But yeah, what feels
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: exciting to you about it or anything different?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I made it in Texas. It's the first time
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: I've recorded in Texas since I was 18.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Okay so we're back to.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Your roots back to the roots yeah I wanted to
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: go to Austin and just like really it's really honky-tonk
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: record I mean it sounds like my childhood it sounds
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: like the music I grew up on and I think
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: it's just because I have a new chapter a new
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: label um a new decade ahead of me of like
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: whatever's gonna happen and I wanted to like go back
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: to the root of where the whole passion started to
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: begin with which was like playing those honky-tonks in Texas
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: like I think I had that sort of awakening when
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: I had my birthday at Billy Bob's and I was like,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: I'm turning 40 at one of my favorite places on
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: earth in my home state at a honky tonk, listen
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: to country music. And that's just where my heart lives
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day is a honky tonk,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: listen to country music.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: So it felt right to like make my own music
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: that way this time, you know? Yeah.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: It's hard for your heart to kind of get back
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: home when your life gets busy like that in a way,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: you know? It is.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: And I have, I have Austin, Austin. I spent a
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: lot of time in Austin.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I love Austin.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: Me too. My little brother lives there and, um, And
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: I just, I don't know. I always say I'm a
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: TNT state girl because my heart's half in Tennessee, half
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: in Texas. But both places that I live revolve around music,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: and I love that.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like sometimes your life gets so busy, and
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: then you're like, it stops at a certain point. There's
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: a special day or a moment. You're like, oh, okay,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: I can get a look at where I'm at.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to have enough time to stop and
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: look at where you're at because I didn't for so long.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, when you're young and you start young, following
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: your dream and then you just sort of are a
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: horse with blinders then you stop and you go okay
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: I'm now what I made it now what you know
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: and it's it's like it's kind of a weird spot
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: to be but then once you embrace it which is
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: where I feel like I am right now just embracing
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: like look what what I've done so far but like
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: what else can we do you know yeah still feel
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: really inspired and excited I mean I'm I definitely don't
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: have the same energy for like long, you know, 150
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: dates a year on the road or anything, but I'm
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: still so inspired to like write songs and, you know,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: I love the music. I can't, it's, my life I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: dedicated my whole life to it it is.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Funny you kind of yeah you do when you get
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: busy and your career gets busy a lot of you
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: gets dedicated to what it is it's like I spend
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: most of my time like I have some close friends
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: I don't even get to talk to that much and
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: I know it's sad to say people like well you
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: work instead of talk to them but it's almost like
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: you build up your dream but then your dream takes
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah And nobody tells you what to do when you
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: have done it. Like, there's not, like, a manual you can, like,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: there's not, like, a podcast you can, like, go back
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: and look at and be like, so now what happens
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: at this point in my career at this age with
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: these accolades? Like, what happens now? You just figure it
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: out as you go. And, you know, I'm, like, working
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: with younger artists now and, like, newer artists. I have
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: a label called Big Loud Texas.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: In partnership with Big Loud. Yeah.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's your, so you guys have a branch there now. Yep. Oh,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: that's awesome, dude.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: And it's, you know, keeping that.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Stephen Wilson Jr. on Big Loud too?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: He's on Big Loud. Let's go. So he's playing in Nashville.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Patches on patches on patches.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: So good.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: Torn cigarette.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, when he said, is this song called Torn Cigarette?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: It's called Patches.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, that lyric that he says?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: I'm a torn cigarette. My patches got patched. It's so good.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: But he is playing in Nashville.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Everyone.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: December 4th.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Tethered.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: So good. My father's son.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Drain my blood. Dude, God.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: It's one of the greatest records that's come out in
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: a decade.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: That's our audio slave, man.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: It really is.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Because it's all of it.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: It's hillbilly, and it's rage, and it's sad, and it's funny.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: And even as a Native American, some of the beats,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: some of the drums that he uses have a very
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: native sound to me.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: It blows me. And I keep finding new songs on
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: it that I like. That's what's always amazing about it.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: Like you keep going back and re-hearing them? Yeah.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, now this one I like.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: Now this hit me weird. Yeah.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Let's get fucking weird, buddy.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: Anyway. I also like that he wears his little vest.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: He just wears his little vest in all his videos.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: He just sits in there freaking slaying the guitar. And
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: he's just like his little puppy vest.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just cozy. I love it.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: There he is in his puppy vest. I love it.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Um he looks like a lifeguard at woodstock kind of
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: in a way you know what i'm saying he has
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: a very safe but risque vibe dude uh he's.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: So sweet by the way like the sweetest.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: You can tell like uh i've just listened to some
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: interviews and stuff with him and just listen to his
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: music i got to see him play one night at
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: um whiskey jam yeah at whiskey jam and that was
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: so cool but yeah it's amazing um Him, Red Clay Strays,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: I've been listening to. They're great. So much good music
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: So much. So many great. Lainey Wilson, I know you
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: talk to her. I love her so much.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: God. Good gal pal. If they had 11 Lainey Wilsons.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Good gal pal. You'd be in there in the donut
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: box with 11 Lainey Wilsons.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Because there would. Yeah. Yeah, and you'd be the cop.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: I would.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Well, look.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: Like, what are y'all doing?
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Hey, what are you doing in there, huh?
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: With the New York accent. I got to work on that.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, what are you doing in there? Anyway, Miranda Lambert,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for all the beautiful music. Thank
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: you for spending time with us today and just sharing
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit of your life. And yeah, and thanks
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: for just like the inspiration and just being a space
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: of like, hey, this is where you are. And now
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: let's see where we are. And let's make the best
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: stuff yet to come. And yeah, I just really enjoyed
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: my time.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you. We got deep, and it was good.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: I liked it.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: We talked about some good songs, too.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: It's nice. Yep, we sure did. Your new album is out.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: It is. It is.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: It's called Postcards from Texas.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: Postcards from Texas, and yeah, we'll be listening to it.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: And you've got.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: To check out Aaron Ratier. Okay. You're going to like him.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, dude.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Quirky one.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. All right.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: I'm in.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Yep.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: of mind I found. I can feel it in my bones.