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We're Back??? · JustIN Time

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Welcome back to another edition of the Justin Tom Podcast.
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You're with your host, Justin and Will.
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How's the guest? I'm doing fine, brother, I'm
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doing fine. Great to see your face, as
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always. Yep.
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How was? How you you ready for your
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vacation? We cannot wait counted less than
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a week. Brother, I miss you, but I need
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a break from from the job. You know we.
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Know how everything. Yeah, I'm going to be fine, man.
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Where y'all going? We're going to Williams,
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Williamstown, KY. We're going to see the ark Nice.
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The same as the iconic Noah's Ark.
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The ark icon is what they call it.
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They also have the creation museum.
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So we're trying to do that as well.
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I think. So really just a, it's the
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actual, the, the actual measurements of the ark.
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So it's like a big this life-size like this.
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I, I had a couple coworkers. They've been before.
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You know what? She actually went when they
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first opened ten years ago because they celebrated the 10
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year anniversary this year. So she said it's just like it's
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you can't even comprehend how amazing that experience is.
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So we're all looking forward to it.
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Yeah, I'm going to have to add that to my list.
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Well, you should better. Yeah.
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You said I can't wait, brother. Yep.
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So we're back. And he?
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Might have been the stupidest thing I've ever seen that Texas
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players say, especially when they got didn't they have a
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losing season to follow that up. Like we were doing some of this
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other day, yesterday or the other day.
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Like like it was, I forgot Jesus, I forgot.
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I keep forgetting his name. I know what I've seen.
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But like he was doing the Texas games like they were doing the
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Charlie Strong era and like they had one in like a late games and
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like this is his back, folks. Yeah.
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And then? Who was it?
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Yeah, I'm just phoning up. You're back.
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Yeah, that was. Ellinger.
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Yeah, they because Texas is backfoes is also it was the
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famous gospel ball catch phrase from Joe Tessitor during during
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Texas thrilling win over Notre Dame on September 4, 2016.
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I thought it was earlier than that, but be the way.
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Yeah, but 2019 is what he said it.
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So they didn't have a losing season right after it beat
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Georgia 28 to 21. But they did follow that up by
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getting beat by LSU at home when they did that.
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Embarrassing. Hold the Joe Burrows jersey over
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that cannon and shoot it through.
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I remember like that's one of my favorite memories from the the
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the series. We don't play them often.
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Obviously. We were out of conference with
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them for many years. And of course they're the
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opposite before they disband the visions.
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But remember, like it was a close game against Texans in 19
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the last time we played them and we had that big conversion.
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It was third down and we had that long touchdown.
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And like, you know, Matthew McConaughey was just was
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stunned. I was like.
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What a time, what a time to be alive, you know?
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Now, I will say this, I am a little petty.
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They still got banned all the way in a Nosebleed.
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So when they come to Death Valley, if we don't stick their
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band in the Nosebleed, I think it's a Cron.
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Yeah. Now you're forced to play us on
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a home and home. Eventually.
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You were scared to come to Death Valley back in 21 when they put
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the season back together. Now you have to come.
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But you know when everything going on, you know with SEC
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gangs and everything. 123456789 Wow.
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I will say this, they are bold enough not to play a run and win
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at the end of the season. He saw the schedule was yeah,
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I'm looking at it myself. I was looking at it before we
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got on just to see, yeah, they're going to be interesting.
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They got they got some tricky tests, man.
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Yeah, but it's very interesting, you know, and he's a, you know,
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I think in media days when the Sarkeesian said he was for the
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2014 playoffs. Listen, I'm for too.
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I'm all for it. Expect listen, you college
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college football needs to leave stuff on the field.
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All this subjectivity, all this, you know, politics.
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I mean, it's, it's, it's nausea and man, it's we, we, it's time
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out for all that like the tin toe and.
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Oh, yeah. And I think we talked about it
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in the episode, a past episode. You know, it was a weak
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Mississippi State. We talked about it.
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Ironic. But you know, we talked about
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it. How?
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Get rid of all the bowl games in the conference championship
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games and just play the play. Expand the playoff to 32 teams.
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I'm what? Yeah, Yeah.
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Just like, you know, I know you had you had your own variation,
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but we both we both really settled 32.
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But just like listen not to get off.
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Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.
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And you know, like I do agree we rank the top 25 for a reason.
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But if you do 24 teams, you're going to run into the
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controversy will always rank 25. Yes, yeah.
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Then if you do 32, you get rid of all the teams that never have
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a chance that when they conference championships that
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are pretty decent. I still think you do.
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If you do expanded to 32, you shorten the season a little bit
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with 32 instead of 12 games if you're going to do conference
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championships, unless you take the overall conference champion,
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you know. Yeah, yeah, For me, like I look
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at, I don't, I'm not opposed to them just starting, you know,
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you know how they do the week 0 games at the neutral sites and
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whatnot. I'll just say, listen, just
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start the season earlier, keep the 12 games slate just started
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earlier. And anyway, I would say I know
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with like the Rose Bowl they have like the traditional, it
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has to be on New Year's Day. New Year's Day.
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I said, listen, I'm all for tradition, but sometimes it
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needs to be shaken up. If any game supposed to be on
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New Year's Day should be the national championship game.
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That's. Me, look, if you're going to,
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you're going to go all the way to the end of January.
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I'm playing the Rose Bowl on New Year's Day.
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If you want, play the Sugar Bowl and everything on New Year's
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Day. Make it part of the playoffs,
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though. Yeah.
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Where that team, whoever's in that bracket on that side of the
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bracket goes to the Rose Bowl for this.
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I'm all for that game being a semi final game.
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Yeah, for sure, Yeah. Just like all the, the iconic,
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the new year sticks, like you, like you had said the last week,
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just all the iconic legendary bows, keep those in like the no
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sooner than the quarterfinals because I, I like to rotate them
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year after year, because the national championship game has
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its own, it's his own game. So like you rotate all the the
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major 6 bowls and rotate them one year, couple years straights
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could be quarterfinals, another couple years straights could be
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the semifinals. So just, and you just rotate
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them on a yearly basis, however you want to do it.
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Just keep keep like so you you maintain the the tradition, but
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you you raise like the the urgency of the game.
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Yeah, I maintain it like just the the famous lore of it.
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Yeah. And look, college football is
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one of those sports where they're evolving, they're
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adapting to what fans want, but they're adapting and conforming
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in a way that isn't like necessarily what fans want to
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see. It's a better look than you just
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matching 2 computer, putting two teams in a computer and batching
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them up for national championship.
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But in with the playoffs it gives you A at least four teams
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at the beginning had a chance. Now we had 12.
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You know, I think the way they're going to do it is
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they're going to go 16 will be the next bump.
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Then after two seasons of that, you know, then they'll do 24 and
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then eventually I think we'll get to 32.
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Got you. But you know, that's just the
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way the NCAA does things. Instead of just setting up a
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plan and doing it, they want to test to see if their theories
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work out, you know? But let's get back into it and
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then we're back to the scheduling, you know, And I
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think it's very bold to Texas to play 9 SEC games in a row.
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Hey do. You want the big dog, you got
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the big dog. Yeah, but you know, I'm for it.
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You know, they start off on the 5th at 2:30 with Texas State.
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Oh, they're not shining away either.
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They got Ohio State the next week at six. 30 they're
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finishing the home at home like tickets are as low as 501
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dollars yeah. Which is not.
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Shocking. No, that's not shocking at all.
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You know, what's shocking to me is if you look at it, you can
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tell by these prices that who's the rival and who's not.
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I was, I was just thinking that like red, like Oklahoma, that's
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the neutral, legendary, neutral site robbery, lowest 508
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dollars, historic rivalry. And of course A&M, like you
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said, 529 at the end of the year.
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Historic rivalry. Yeah, that's a shock.
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Yeah, so they start off with Texas State and I'm going to
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give them a win. Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable
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with that. 2:30 on ESPN too. I know it's Texas, but East?
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And I will go ahead and give them a win in Week 2.
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Yeah, I'm thinking I'm I think they get the revenge.
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So like I was, I was kind of back and forth with it like
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before I said I'm going to go. So we got 2 in those so far.
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These will be a close one up. Three and O.
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Three and O Yep UTSA 71 SEC Network plus so yeah you know
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it's a hideaway game. Yep.
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Then I think this was a trap. Man, let me tell you 11:00.
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You go cupcake, Ohio State cupcake, then Tennessee at
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Tennessee at 11 AM. Man, that was before the bye
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week too because they they got Oklahoma after the bye week.
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That might save them. Cool man.
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But I think they're going to overlook.
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I'm thinking they might overlook Tennessee to get to that
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rivalry. So I'm teetering, man.
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Like that's brother stuff. It's that travel at 11:00 AM.
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There's an early kick that's tough.
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You know what, I'll go ahead and give them a win there and it's
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been an emotional couple of weeks for Texas at that point.
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I think I'm going to give them their first loss.
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In Tennessee. At Oklahoma.
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Oklahoma, OK, so yeah. Versus Oklahoma, yeah.
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Yeah, so I got, so we both have 4:00 and 1:00.
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Yeah, then I'll give them a win in Florida. 5:00 and 1:00.
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When it Ole Miss versus Ole Miss.
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Same 6:00 and 1:00. They'll be 8 and 1 going into
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LSU. Yeah, same.
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Now this one is very interesting because we come in with a new
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coach but a strong defense back. Yes.
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You know, and without Brian Kelly making terrible
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adjustments at halftime in a competent offense, I think LSU
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will it'll be a close one. And you can flip a coin at the
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end. We'll just put that one as it to
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be determined. All right.
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Unless you what you got. Also at LSU I may have that as
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AI might give AI might, I might give us to them, might give us
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the win there. I like it.
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I might give us the win. Well, I'll give the Tigers to
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win, too. Only because it's at home.
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Because the other way it's a it's, it's no late mid November
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game at home. Then it and that's going to be
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that's going to be a night time game.
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I just, yeah, especially with that stakes, it's hard to
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believe it's been early in the day.
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So I'm going to say it was that 8:00 and 2:00.
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Eight and two, Nine and two. 9:00 and 2:00. 10:00 and 2:00.
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Yeah. Yeah, so that works for me. 10
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and 2 going to a. Playoff like, you know, an SB
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Nation burnt orange nation. So which is their you know,
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they're on their blog websites. They were picked up by the media
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to finish second like you had touched on earlier places.
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And they according to their projections for the all SC team,
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11 players make the all conference team.
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Yeah, I'm like. I wouldn't be surprised if they
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end up with a Heisman finalist as well.
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Yeah, yeah. I just, I feel like just another
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year for Arch. This is a quarterbacks award.
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So this be honest with it, even though they have a great running
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back history, but it's a quarterbacks award.
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You know, just just for like the sake of discussion, they picked
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second behind Georgia and all these predictions have LSU
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finishing fifth in the conference.
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Yeah, which honestly, I'm not surprised you got a new coach
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or, you know, he's not like an unproven SEC guy at LSU.
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He's done it at Ole Miss. He's got a strong, you know, it
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all depends on what we brought in, you know, so we'll see.
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But I think Texas is going to be a good one.
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You know, I'm excited for them to come to LSU to play.
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Me too. You know, it's always a good
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time. Last time we played them was of
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course, the the natty year 2019, that great shootout game.
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Full list page Yeah. So before that, it was the last,
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the previous two time before 19 was we both played them in the
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Cotton Bowl. So they beat us.
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It was a 2002 season, so it was a New Year's Day of O3.
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They beat us 35 to 20 in the Cotton Bowl, but we beat them in
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the Cotton Bowl in Dallas on New Year's Day of 1963.
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So we've only played, this will be only the fourth time since
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the mid 60s since we played them.
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They have Texas lead the all time series 98 and 1.
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So it was very closely contested.
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But obviously different conferences.
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You know, with college, you know, it's rare that you get
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these type of games or the reason we're playing them now is
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because we're in conference. So it's going to be interesting.
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It'll be very interesting and I'm ready for it if I'm being
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nice. Yeah, I mean, it's a great fan
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base. You know, they, they have a lot
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of money. You know, they, they're very
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committed to getting their teams championships.
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You know, just, you know, we, we always talk so much about like
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the, the Texas and the oil money and all that stuff.
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They're very. Committed to, I think they're
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very committed to getting their team to the game, not
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necessarily pushing them over the edge.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you.
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I was the thing about like other people saying about Steve
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Sarkisian, I think, I think he's done an incredible job of RE
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have rehabilitated his career for one, but just really had
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have Texas peaking at the right time when they were entering the
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conference. I commended for that.
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He got him peaking at the right time, Yeah.
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Because last season we had him for dead after they lost to Ohio
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State, then when they lost to Georgia a couple years back.
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Yeah, that's. Right, their fans decided to
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throw to trash their field. So, so so the coach had to get
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on the the fans. I say listen, chill out with
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them please. There's no reason for that, none
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at all. And you've got a good team.
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You're not spoiled like some people.
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We know that we're Crimson. But I'm not saying no names.
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I'm saying any names but they have an elephant in the colors
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of Crimson but. Therefore, what you will.
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Yeah, but you know, I think it's their season will be great if
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you justify it by championship, you know, that's yet to be seen.
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Like like we always say, it's the summer.
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It's too early for all of this. Most of y'all aren't even in
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fall camp yet. They'll be coming to fall camp
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in the next week or two. Yeah, so like, you know, we, we
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we're inching closer and closer. We still got like a a month away
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from the start. So I mean, it's like, like I
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always say about, you know, off seasons, just stay healthy, man.
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I guess we've already lost two guys.
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He's done it like major injuries at least, but just.
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That's one thing I don't like about like, you know, the fall,
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the spring football. Yeah, it's such a rush,
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especially when you got a new coach and stuff.
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Yes, yes, man. Yeah.
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So we'll definitely have to look into that, you know, and
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injuries play a big part, too. Somebody, one piece goes down,
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you know? No doubt.
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Yeah, but it'll be a, you know, long season, depending on how
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everything goes for Texas, Yeah. Like and those.
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Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry.
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First, I think that first month of fly by and then once they get
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to October it'll start to crawl and.
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The thing is, it's like they have a lot of pressure and
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expectations on them. I know it's a it's a huge brand.
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So I mean, you're going to have intention regardless, but just a
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lot of people on definitely on arch, you know, just so a lot of
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people think he's overrated, stuff like that and just love
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that nature. Obviously, you know, Steve
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didn't know. People are not huge believers of
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Steve Sarkeesian because he hasn't won the big games, but
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they have a lot of. Boris Sarkeesian goes, if you
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look at it, he's handled the pressure he's got them to.
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I agree. It all comes down to if.
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I think this season comes down to if Arch can handle the
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pressure. Yes.
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Because I think last year there was a lot of pressure and a lot
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of hype on him, and then he kind of crumbled, you know?
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Yeah, you just, and like, you know, we because he had those
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struggles early, but you know, to his credit, I mean, he was
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able to restore that, you know, just like be steady down the
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stretch. But just something.
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Yeah, man, they got to. They got to do it this year for
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their sake, for the for, for their sake.
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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I would say
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Starks on the hot seat just because, but it is Texas and
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they are one of those big schools that pump a lot of
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money. Yeah.
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It's all about like, it's all about the context for that type
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of discussion. Yeah, normally Brian LSU's case
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with Brian Kelly last year where he was when he had a couple
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winning seasons, that was totally different because he had
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lost the team. Yeah.
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He lost the team and he lost the fan base.
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That last game for him at that A&M game last year we had, I was
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there, it was the national championship celebration for our
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baseball team. That's the first time ever seen
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the walk down Victory Hill. Everybody stayed for There was a
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huge crowd. Everybody stayed for the
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baseball team to come down. Everybody immediately went into
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P Mac. When the football team came
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down, it was nobody there. You know, Brian Kelly had lost
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the fan base and he lost the team and that's what got him out
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of, I think if you have A10 win season and you can't, you don't
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lose the team, you know? Yeah.
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You got a team that wants to play for you.
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I think you're good. I agree, yeah, just like, but
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like I said, it started off really well.
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Just I always look at like the 22 teams about the greatest
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coaching job because like you said, with the contracts of you
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saying just like you lose a team, got to rebuild.
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It's just the program was a mess for a couple years.
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So just the fact that they got to the Atlanta that that first
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year, I thought I was incredible job by him largely.
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But just obviously, well, I always go back to you wasted 2
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elite units in like a matter of three seasons.
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And like you just, it's just hard to really maintain that job
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because your other unit doesn't have to do much.
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Yeah. And if you look at Edo, before
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he fell apart, one of his strong suits that he always said, and
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he said in his book was the thing he learned from his
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previous jobs as head coaches was that he didn't know
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everything. So he brought in guys who knew
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more about certain positions in certain groups, like offensive
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coordinator then he did, and he kind of just let them sit back
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and he was just the overseer. Yeah.
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See. What didn't help Brian Kelly at
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LSU is he consistently hired the wrong people.
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Like you saw, you saw it on the results, yeah.
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So but this is episode about Texas.
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But but we bring that, we set that up because like, listen,
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you got 2 historic brands that put a lot of priority in the
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sport of football. They've had a lot of success in
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the sport of football. And not like I always say, not
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like, you know, Villanova or Kansas that prioritize football
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historically. So it was just like it's a
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different standard, especially take with the with the money
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they have in that state. Like man, you bro, like just you
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got to make it. You got to.
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Make it. Yeah, You got to make it happen.
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No, Think out of all the Texas teams, I think the Longhorns
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have a shot to make it happen. You know, Yeah, they'll be
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annoying, but I do like them better than that cult in College
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Station. Many people went there.
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On there, yeah. But that'll do it from us.
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Got anything you want to close out with?
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They say, would you say horn down, brother?
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Horn down, horns down? No, let's say it, brother.