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- I am super excited that you guys get to meet my new friend Eddie and on today's episode we're going to learn all about emergency medicine, neuroscience, regenerative medicine. This guy has done it all. And I love what he's doing. He's not just treating symptoms. He's focused on getting to the root cause, whether that's hormonal, obstinative optimization, peptide therapy, hydration, aesthetics, all the way around. He wants you to be the best you can be. Eddie, welcome to the podcast. Thanks for coming on. I am excited to get to know you. I love what you're doing. And so speaker-1 (06:02.958) Hey, thank you so much. I'm excited to be here. speaker-0 (06:08.75) I can't wait for our listeners and to learn all about your business. First things first Johnson City Living podcast. We always ask what do you love most about Johnson City and you can't say people or mountains. Can't say mountains. I know we took off the top two. It's kind of like, you know, Family Feud. You've already got the top one and two you're going for the three through five, 10 maybe answers. speaker-1 (06:20.92) you can't say mountains the first thing that came to my mind speaker-1 (06:35.438) hoping that we hit the board. speaker-0 (06:37.324) Yeah, we're going to start with a say here in a second whether you made it up there or not. speaker-1 (06:41.966) So I've been here my entire life. Obviously I really love the mountains. I think that it's beautiful. We do have great people. speaker-1 (06:56.502) We got I think honestly for me, it's just a really good place to raise kids I mean we've moved around a little bit and we came back here a lot because this is where our family is Yeah, and it takes an army. Yeah, but also, you know there it really is just a great place to raise kids like the sports the It's a really good mix of everything like we're not a huge city, but we have everything that we need So it's just a really good place for that speaker-0 (07:23.278) I agree 100 % and ding ding. Yep, you made it up there. You got them all. Actually, you're doing great. All right. You gave a little bit of background for people who haven't, they don't know. Give me the Eddie Hughes story. Where were you born? Where did you grow up? speaker-1 (07:38.424) So born and raised in, well, Johnsboro slash Johnson City went to ETSU. speaker-0 (07:45.166) Yeah, we're big ETSU fans. got a sophomore there right now. He's wearing it out. speaker-1 (07:51.724) graduated, we didn't have a football team. that may date me a The football field is very nice now. We actually practice soccer on the football field. speaker-0 (08:04.15) I won't tell. Did you break in there? speaker-1 (08:06.638) No, I think it's part of the part of the. But yeah, we really enjoy that. So let's see. My bio is actually on the website somewhere. Yeah, I have a I guess a really diverse background, like primarily emergency medicine. speaker-0 (08:09.454) Yeah. speaker-0 (08:24.738) me about your schooling so you went to TTSU, you got your undergrad in biology, and then you went to med school? speaker-1 (08:29.111) Bye. Well, I was pre-med intended on med school. Ended up going the nursing route. So I've been a nurse practitioner for just over 10 years. speaker-0 (08:42.603) me and our listeners breakdown what a nurse practitioner can do that's different from an MD. speaker-1 (08:49.608) a lot of times it's certain levels of procedures or surgery, I guess. And then of course it varies by state, but in Tennessee, nurse practitioners and physicians assistants have to have medical oversight. So we have to have talked about what we're going to do with the doctor who says, yes, you are competent to do that or no, you're not competent to do that. And then we have oversight from a doctor. So we do a lot of similar things. speaker-0 (09:14.924) Good thing on some level, right? speaker-1 (09:16.684) I think it's always good to have somebody making sure you're doing what you're supposed to. Yeah, I think so. Like somebody looking over your shoulder occasionally. That's not a bad thing. Yes. speaker-0 (09:19.458) Accountability is always. speaker-0 (09:25.176) Can you prescribe medicine? And just can't like do heart transplants and stuff. speaker-1 (09:30.796) mean, it's probably found upon. mean, there's probably some states maybe closer to the border that we could get away with that. Yeah. It's found upon. speaker-0 (09:37.142) Okay, so then you went the nursing route. What happened after nursing? speaker-1 (09:40.75) I've been in the ER the entire time. I still do emergency medicine. Yeah. Greenville. So pretty local. So we used to have two hospitals we had Tacoma and Laughlin. Okay. Now with all of the merger that became valid, and they've spread out to a lot of the other areas right now. speaker-0 (09:45.644) Locally, like it was. Is that Tacoma? speaker-0 (10:00.706) Bye. speaker-1 (10:05.57) There's no more Tacoma. All of that got consolidated into what was Laughlin. And now we call it Greenville Community Hospital East because we just wanted a really long name since we went from two to one, I think. speaker-0 (10:17.528) Greenville Community Hospital East. That's a lot. And then I heard they might be bringing on, there might be some competition coming. speaker-1 (10:28.504) We will not speculate on that. I really don't know. I don't know. speaker-0 (10:32.686) It's interesting for sure. Okay, and then so emergency medicine What else have you been involved in? speaker-1 (10:40.846) So, and I don't want to say that I don't still love the ER, it's just a different kind of taking care of people. what I've saw is that... Wellness and healthcare at one point were the same thing and your primary care doctor would teach you how to be well We would spend time talking about diet. We would spend time talking about exercise and Supplements and you know your blood pressure would be high we wouldn't jump straight to giving you 25 medicines We would actually say hey, have you you know, what's your sodium intake? Let's talk about your diet Let's get you exercise and let's check some other things that may be holding you back Now, you know, it's very standard to put people on blood pressure medications without going through the diet and exercise portion. And I think that we won't necessarily admit that that's how it goes. speaker-0 (11:29.902) Because they know we're like, they're looking at me and they're like, that guy's not gonna exercise, he's not gonna eat. No, like we're just gonna go ahead and give you the pill ahead of time. speaker-1 (11:39.842) think non-compliance is part of it. think a lot of it is we're constantly pressured to see more and more patients in less and less time. Right. So is it going to be more effective for me to spend the 15 minutes that I have with you talking about diet and exercise and hoping for the best, or is it going to be most effective for me to give you a medicine? Yeah. But that's why we break free from the traditional healthcare route. And that's where I feel like wellness and healthcare have branched off. Right. So wellness actually, you know, because I don't take insurance and I can dictate how much time I spend with my patients. I actually get to spend enough time to make sure that they get educated and you know, not just diet and exercise, but supplements and you know, all of the different things we can go more in depth on signs and symptoms and how they're feeling and we know how to direct what labs are going to order and just try to focus more holistically on the person. speaker-0 (12:32.554) Okay, I like it. When did you get the bug or the idea that you were going to open up your own place? speaker-1 (12:39.278) I never thought that I would do something like that. seems really stupid if you ask me. And I still sometimes I'm like. speaker-0 (12:45.71) You have a family of entrepreneurs like behind you like your dad, mom, everything like that. speaker-1 (12:50.828) No, that would be great. No, owning a business is foreign to me and it's really hard. Don't teach you this stuff in school. It's like I almost feel like I was like thrown in the fire or like thrown in the deep end of the pool when I can't swim. It's kind of like sink or swim. Figure it out. So I feel like I'm at the treading water stage right now. I'm not completely drowning, but I still am not a strong swimmer, if that makes sense. speaker-0 (12:55.438) It's almost up there with adulting. speaker-0 (13:14.062) You know what? It's a journey. It's not one of those overnight things. It's kind of like maturing. You're going to do great. speaker-1 (13:20.962) will say that keeping your head above water has taken on a whole new meaning. speaker-0 (13:24.782) You're trying to be calm on the head and then you're like the duck like calm on top. But yeah. Tell me about your business. What's the name of it? And where is it located? speaker-1 (13:30.085) yeah. Absolutely. speaker-1 (13:36.088) Peak performance, wellness, and aesthetics. Right now it is across from Wingdeer Park. actually in the Renovus building. speaker-0 (13:44.172) And so how do people find you? Like if they want to make an appointment, is it online pretty much? speaker-1 (13:50.636) So most of time you're going to call and talk to Sarah. Okay. It's four two, three, two, one, two, three, seven, zero, three. Okay. The phone number. If anybody still uses those, think phones are still a thing. I call. that number also gets text messages. That's better. we're on Facebook, tick-tock Instagram, and we have a YouTube channel, but we don't have a lot of subscribers. So it's almost like we don't. Right. speaker-0 (14:00.056) people all day. speaker-0 (14:16.802) But you got to keep doing it because I think from what I'm reading, YouTube is the best search engine out there now. so, and then AI is grabbing your posts on YouTube first as a marker for like, hey, I'm looking for alternative medicine in Johnson City. speaker-1 (14:33.516) YouTube. That's interesting. So I'm not great at the social media stuff, but I am speaker-0 (14:36.696) shorts even. speaker-0 (14:41.752) There's so much you can do. It's crazy. And then you also have to work. They're juggling it all. That kind of pays the bills. You might want to do that. speaker-1 (14:48.734) Thirst, deceit patience aspects. And then I think the goal is just to see how many hats you can wear and still keep your head above water. speaker-0 (15:01.606) All right, let's get to root cause talk. Say I come in or give us a case example where you've had a wonderful experience, somebody who's like, you've really turned their life around because of this. speaker-1 (15:04.814) Okay. speaker-1 (15:15.15) I think any perimenopausal woman that has been to their primary care speaker-0 (15:20.376) here. Give me the timeline on perimenopausal. Basically 40 to speaker-1 (15:25.534) Yeah, I mean it kind of areas like I've had some people in their late 30s all the way up to 60 year olds that are going through menopause It's kind of it's kind of interesting actually you know, a lot of people will think they're menopausal and it's really something else. Like a lot of times if you've never had thyroid issues and your thyroid starts to act and up, it kind of mimics some of the symptoms. Okay. Same thing with vitamin D, like having low vitamin D levels can look like a hormone issue when it's really vitamin D. but realistically, you know, you see patients from their late thirties up into late fifties. Normally by the fifties, they are pretty menopausal at that point, but I have had a couple of people that are even in their sixties still have good hormone levels which is surprising but it can happen. speaker-0 (16:09.39) What do you feel like is their root reason for having good hormone levels? Is it more genetic or is it because they take good care of themselves? speaker-1 (16:17.39) I think it's a combination of things. think realistically with hormones, a lot of it really is genetic. You have these people that, they'll tell you like, my parents were, lived to be 100 years old and then they're older and they're still super healthy. So I think there's always gonna be a genetic component. I think a lot of it really, and I don't know how highly this has been studied, it would actually be a good thing to look up, but how much of our habits are... really what's causing what we relate to genetics because our parents teach us our habits. So if our parents teach us to eat really well and exercise and that's how we live our life, then we're going to be a lot healthier than the people who eat every meal at fast food restaurants. speaker-0 (16:58.286) read somewhere or heard it the other day, know, because everybody's like, well, you're genetically predisposed to have that occur, whatever. And this thing said, no, it's actually only 20 % of genetics is what's causing these issues. A lot of it is like you're saying. speaker-1 (17:16.354) think a lot of it is 70-30 for a lot of the things that's know, diabetes and high cholesterol and high blood pressure and a lot of the things that we look at as being potentially genetic. I think there is a genetic component, but I also think our parents taught us how to eat and exercise. So if you're eating a fast food and sitting on the couch all day playing video games versus being active playing sports and actually eating quality food, it's gonna be a huge difference. So, you you can't argue with genetics, especially when you do genetic testing for some of the, speaker-0 (17:45.88) crazy stuff that's just really messing you up. Yeah. Talk to us about. Yeah, I think the root cause I love it because you're trying to solve the problem. masking the problem. speaker-1 (17:46.514) Yeah. speaker-1 (17:58.254) I love it. Right. It's like trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together. speaker-0 (18:03.906) Yeah. And I think we all have different, different pieces, right? We all made differently, but I think, on the other side of it, the Lord has made us all right. And he's given us the ability to heal. Like you cut your hand. It's not laying open for the rest of your life. Right? Yeah. Your body is this amazing regenerative machine that just is a miracle work. I mean, it's just crazy. And so how do you help people get to where they're regenerating their body in a better way? restoring back to their natural self, wherever they need to be. speaker-1 (18:36.814) So I think restoring and regenerating, because there's this whole new avenue of regenerative medicine, I think we have to kind of differentiate. So restoring to me is restoring what's lost. So like when we're young, our hormones, for the most part, function the way they're supposed to, and we lose that as we get older. speaker-0 (18:53.698) You think it's just like aging and like our thyroid is just getting tired and not producing enough of that stuff or what is it? speaker-1 (19:00.098) So I think sometimes it's age. A lot of times it's autoimmune and people just don't check for autoimmune. a lot of times it's diet, exercise, metabolic syndrome. So if you gain weight rapidly and you have high cholesterol, you start to get insulin resistance. causes inflammation in your body. lot of this stuff leads to what we kind of term metabolic syndrome. Gotcha. think sometimes it's people wonder what came first, the chicken or the egg with metabolic syndrome, right? Because I have metabolic syndrome, therefore I'm tired. Therefore I don't work out. I eat like crap and it's kind of a circular reasoning. So I think it's cutting it off and figuring out how to correct it, which a lot of times is diet and exercise. But we don't want to exercise when we feel like crap. So you've got to get a jump start on it. Right. speaker-0 (19:43.822) you gotta push through. Yeah, it's hard to get that, get that snowball up the hill sometimes. But once you start working out and you make it like you were saying habits, right? Instead of eating a bag of Doritos, you grab an apple or something good for you, you know? speaker-1 (19:59.214) Fresh vegetables, fruit, grilled chicken. Absolutely. Lots and lots of water. real. So a lot of people don't even realize like metabolic processes function more efficiently when you're really well hydrated. So a lot of times when you feel metabolic, when you're sluggish and you feel like your metabolism is slow, just drinking enough water can get everything spread back. speaker-0 (20:02.318) I'm dehydrated by a crazy. speaker-0 (20:23.246) cool. So yeah, I put a quarter of a teaspoon of sea salt and a splash of lime in my water like almost all the time now because I've gotten to this habit of it. I love it. And I listened to I think another podcast and my buddy got it from Peter Attia and he was like putting it anyway, just little little things, you know. speaker-1 (20:44.334) Or just caution some people to watch their blood pressure if they're doing that. speaker-0 (20:47.49) Yeah, well, and it's I mean, you're talking like, not a lot of salt. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it dissolves like it's just itty bitty amount. But it's delicious. And I think it gives me a little flavor and then and like you're getting some electrolytes to some trace minerals that are in this Baja gold sea salt that you can't get just by drinking it. Yeah, I think that's huge. So back to hormones. speaker-1 (20:57.902) actually adds a little bit of flavor. speaker-0 (21:15.16) perimenopausal women. What about dudes? We don't, I mean, I'm 53 here in a month. Are my hormones, you know, how's that affecting me? speaker-1 (21:18.062) Absolutely. Yeah, I the way you speaker-1 (21:26.68) Well, it depends on, you know, got to get labs, got to check levels. Okay. A lot of things that. speaker-0 (21:31.874) Let's just pretend let's do this. Let's pretend that I'm your patient right now. I'm walking in and I'm like, all right, Eddie, I feel sluggish. My knee hurts. I've got golfers elbow. I have brain fog sometimes like every day at two o'clock like today. I was just like, I need a nap after lunch. Well, I had a big lunch. But almost every day I'm like, I feel like taking a nap. What? I'm in a bed. speaker-1 (21:55.854) How are you sleeping at night? Good, good. Actually, I have had that one before, so I should have asked that differently. speaker-0 (22:03.918) I think pretty well, I don't get eight hours of sleep. I go to bed at probably 10.30 and get up at around five. speaker-1 (22:11.352) Probably the best answer I've had of that question is I sleep on my left side of my boxers speaker-0 (22:16.142) That's a good one. Sometimes with my little dog, he comes and snuggles with me. speaker-1 (22:19.854) It does matter how you ask the question. I think a lot of times when you are fatigued and you're not sleeping well Low libido is another really big one Yeah, just come get it checked come let's Step one is a conversation. Let's talk about it. See if we're realistic about our expectations and what we think could be the cause I like to rule out other things like I won't just jump to yeah your testosterone is low Let's throw you on a bunch of testosterone right like I want to speaker-0 (22:30.126) testosterone for speaker-0 (22:49.742) Let's figure it out. speaker-1 (22:50.275) But your exercise, we want to make sure it's not your thyroid. We want to check up vitamin D level. And those are just the basics. So it depends. We can go a lot more in depth based on the complaints that you have and specifically what's not working the way it should be working. speaker-0 (23:04.558) Okay, so I say, all right, let's do a blood panel. Yeah, right. And then so what are we looking at? All kinds of crazy stuff. How deep do you go? speaker-1 (23:12.955) It depends on the person. So we actually have different price points because you know, obviously we don't take insurance and speaker-0 (23:21.07) that for us. I've done it for $8 blood tests and I've had $100 blood tests. It wasn't very in depth. Basically, you're getting cholesterol or whatever. speaker-1 (23:28.27) $8 were they just taking your blood sugar? speaker-1 (23:39.938) Yeah, and mean some of the basic stuff is not horribly expensive. So I mean, we're going to check all the basic stuff, CBC, metabolic panel, make sure your liver and kidneys are working well, kind of get an idea of your hydration status off of your labs as well. We're going to check all of the hormone labs. And then there is different levels. speaker-0 (23:58.562) Yeah, I've read on hormone panels there's different. speaker-1 (24:00.376) Yeah, so it depends on, know, a lot of people just start at the base level. So like just basic labs with the hormone panel is $150. Okay, so I try to make it affordable, like not trying to break the bank, but at the same time, you know, speaker-0 (24:13.122) You got a lot of time in analyzing. It's not just taking the board and sending it off. speaker-1 (24:16.59) Right. And some people are like, I just want to know everything. So the people who want to pay more or have more symptoms, and sometimes it depends, right? Because people are different. Sometimes the people who are the most symptomatic are only have $150 to spend. So we start there. If we get the answers we need from the basic panel, then we're good. If we need more in-depth labs, and sometimes we do, then we just talk about it. And again, it's where everyone's individual and we're kind of catering it to each individual person based on what they need. And we're keeping it in their budget. speaker-0 (24:45.986) which is great I think you know because you don't want to out price them yeah right okay so we found out I've got some hormone issues what's next speaker-1 (24:47.479) Yeah. speaker-1 (24:57.464) Well, we would talk about how you want to replace it if we get to the point where all your labs are consistent with needing testosterone, for example, then we have bioidentical hormone pellets. Okay. And we also have injectable options. Gotcha. there's a lot of topical options and I'll talk to my patients about those. a lot of times there's some inconsistency with absorption. So I won't say that that's the best method, but that's still the method some people choose. Gotcha. So options, we, we have several different things to choose from and we kind of talk through, you what's going to end up being the best for you and again it's gonna be budget you know some people are needle like very scared of needles sure and so like the idea of having to give yourself an injection weekly or a couple times a week that's not great for them right so speaker-0 (25:43.982) I'd rather just feel like crap. speaker-1 (25:46.03) Well, or that's when pellets are great because you know when it's a very simple in-office procedure where we use some lidocaine get everything numbed up and you know Good to go in 25 30 minutes For men with testosterone we expect about four months, okay speaker-0 (25:58.574) How long is the payload last? speaker-0 (26:04.078) So not too then do I get another panel? Like do you take blood quarterly and kind of look so we've got a history and we kind of see the waves or? speaker-1 (26:11.914) Monitor and follow. Yeah. So again, it kind of varies for the individual But I would say the basic idea especially if you're getting pellets is we would do pellets We would do labs in two months and then we would do pellets again. That's if you chose an injectable option a lot of times I'll do labs at six weeks and then Anytime we find something that we don't like so for example testosterone causes your Body to make more red blood cells and your hematocrit goes up So if you're hematocrit looks like it's jumping up a lot We may have to do labs more frequently estrogen level is jumping up, we may have to do labs more frequently. If we do labs a couple of times and everything looks good, we can hold off a little bit longer. So it's another one of those things that kind of varies person to person, but it's based on once we get good labs, we don't have to do them as frequently. Gotcha. speaker-0 (26:58.658) And then like we're talking micro doses, right? mean, like this pill, it's not very big. It's dissolving. Tic tac, right? speaker-1 (27:05.774) I really wish I would have brought one now. like a. It actually is. Let's see, think about it. Just a little so the width of it is a little bit longer about the same diameter, but a little bit longer. Maybe like two. speaker-0 (27:19.896) four tic tacs. Okay. And then it just goes in your hip or your. Yeah, you just tuck it in. You never even know it's there. And it dissolves. Four months later you come. speaker-1 (27:26.264) Yep, your upper buttock area. speaker-1 (27:33.474) Do the same thing. Labs in between. speaker-0 (27:35.918) And then we're getting some I mean I'm giving like obviously feedback like man. I've got a lot more energy or speaker-1 (27:44.398) This is where sometimes we know that we need to do more labs. So for example, let's say your hormone panel looks like you definitely just need testosterone and we don't opt to do the more. the more expensive panel and then you get some results from the testosterone but you still have some issues like you may still have some mild erectile dysfunction, your libido's still a little bit low, maybe some other symptoms. Then we can kind of, that guides us to other labs that we should do to see if there's something else we need to correct, like maybe this, mean obviously your testosterone was low but there's a reason that you're not getting the results that we expected. speaker-0 (28:20.462) And it's a pretty big range, right? I mean, it's from 400 to what, a thousand or something, 900, and you can be somewhere in there, but what do you feel like's optimal? And is there like a gauge like, oh, you're 53, you need to be around 550? I don't know, I'm just making this up. speaker-1 (28:35.032) Those are good numbers. 53 would be low. most women were shooting for at least that. No, but in all seriousness, around 360 is kind of the cutoff for low. As far as clinical on the labs, like for your lab work to show a different color and freak everybody out and light up. speaker-0 (28:41.378) Yeah, gotcha. speaker-1 (28:55.086) Christmas tree we're going to need that to be below in the low 300s okay I think a lot of insurance companies before insurance will pay for it on the few places that insurance will actually pay for testosterone replacement therapy they're looking for like 320s or less Most people are going to have symptoms around 500. So for example, you you may not have all of the symptoms, but you're starting to feel a little bit more drained, a little bit less rested. Like you don't sleep as well at night. Maybe, you know, you're just starting to have a little bit of erectile issues. Like there's something that brings you in where you're like, you know, something's just not right. think might need some labs. speaker-0 (29:34.05) Yeah, well my buddies were like they feel tired, know, they're just like I'm tired and then they get on testosterone. They're like I feel great speaker-1 (29:40.768) I feel great and I go to the gym and it's like once once you get people going it's a lot easier to keep them going because they feel so much better so now it's easy to get them to go to the gym it's easier to get them to focus on their diet it's you know and then the more you do to keep yourself healthy the better you feel yeah speaker-0 (30:01.234) And or the worse you feel then the worse you you let don't do stuff It's either you're either spiraling down or you're spiraling up right you good. Yeah Okay, and then for the like it sounds like to me testosterone is a big deal for guys any other hormones that we're missing sometimes it can cause us to speaker-1 (30:09.09) either working in the right direction or continuing downhill. speaker-1 (30:20.398) Vitamin D technically is not a hormone, but it functions similarly to a hormone in our body. It does direct a lot of metabolic activity, even though we don't classify it as a hormone. Cool. There's, I've actually, I haven't personally put a lot of guys on progesterone, but I've had some guys that have came, know, Johnson City, we were talking about how awesome it is to live in Johnson City, and apparently the word's getting out, because we, I've had a lot of patients from other areas. And so they do things, I won't say. speaker-0 (30:50.028) Yeah, like all kinds of different things. speaker-1 (30:56.032) It's new to me. You know, I guess a lot of like, you know, patients from California are getting things that I'm like, haven't heard of that yet. Let me start doing some research. so I mean, you know, obviously progesterone is really great to help women sleep and we know that it has a calming effect. I've actually started getting some male patients that are on progesterone too. I haven't heard of anyone around here putting men on progesterone, but I have been doing some research on it and I have gotten patients from other areas that are like, speaker-0 (31:21.888) Isn't that crazy? Yeah, yeah, that's cool. On the female side, do you, typically are they missing? speaker-1 (31:24.056) Yes, interesting. speaker-1 (31:29.358) It's a little bit more complicated with women. mean, wouldn't you guess? So a lot of times there's going to be a balance between estrogen and progesterone as well as, you know, believe it or not, women need testosterone too. Not nearly in the same doses or the same range that men need. speaker-0 (31:33.976) They're very intricate and complicated. speaker-0 (31:50.952) Right. Because they don't want beards and all that. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Like Jack, like you are. They don't want to be that. speaker-1 (31:55.438) 50. Yeah, they don't like that. But it's balancing the estrogen and progesterone and you low dose testosterone just to get them some energy, some drive. It's really great for strength and endurance, muscle preservation, especially the medications that we're not really supposed to say the names of, that is causing everybody, you know, we're losing weight and that's great, but then we're also losing muscle. So that's another great reason to look into. speaker-0 (32:25.186) Yeah, and think studies are showing too that it's not a good, I mean, you gain it all back when you get off of a minister we're not supposed to mention. speaker-1 (32:34.04) think you can actually have good results if you change your lifestyle. And that's kind of the whole point of... speaker-0 (32:40.174) I guess. if you changed your lifestyle without taking that stuff, you'd probably get the same results. It might take a little longer. speaker-1 (32:45.222) Right, and some people just need a step in the right direction. Yeah, a boost. you know, we all know that it's not super easy to just start going to the gym if you haven't been going to the gym. It's not easy to make huge diet changes at one time. If you can actually have the medication to make you not hungry, it becomes a lot easier to make good choices. So if you continue to make good choice and make it a new habit, then you can actually sustain weight loss. I don't think that everybody. speaker-0 (33:14.67) I've lots of people change their, I mean, dramatic change. speaker-1 (33:17.686) And to speak to the people gaining it back, I'm not saying that that doesn't. speaker-0 (33:20.908) Yeah, I was just reading a study. speaker-1 (33:22.666) A lot of times where it kind of goes back to what we were talking about before, where I feel like that we're not getting, being able to spend enough time with our patients. So if I just throw a medicine at you and say, this will help you lose weight. And then I don't calculate your macros and tell you how much protein you need and how much carbs you need and how much fat, make sure you have a certain amount of fat because you have to have that to make hormones and you have to have a certain amount of cholesterol. If I just give you a medicine and let you figure it out for yourself, which is, you know, not saying that that's what everybody does, but I mean, I get a lot of patients from other places who have no idea. how to take the medicine, they have no idea how much they should be eating, like they're just completely lost. So I will say, you know, I'm not saying everyone does it, but I will say for the people who gain the weight back, there's probably an education piece missing somewhere. Right, nobody wants to yo-yo. It's kind of like I've heard people advertise those medicines as ending yo-yo dieting, and for some people it just makes the yo-yo bigger. speaker-0 (34:06.486) Nobody wants to do that. speaker-0 (34:18.03) Okay, root cause I'm hearing hormones is a big part of the root cause. You feel like that's number one maybe? speaker-1 (34:23.982) Absolutely. I feel like it's the most well known and what people advertise the most. Like, I mean, I know since I talk about this all the time, not saying that any of the social media platforms actually listen to everything that we say and then give us ads accordingly. But it does seem to be that I talk about this all day every day and I have probably 10 different ads every time I open up one of my social media. speaker-0 (34:48.686) Isn't it crazy how they're listening? speaker-1 (34:50.734) So there's definitely lots of online places who really like to focus on hormones, hormones, hormones. So is it a very, you know, is it very common that we have hormone issues? Absolutely. But a lot of times it's deeper than that. So we've just got to make sure that we don't stop digging until we actually figure out what's going on. speaker-0 (35:07.502) Here some other things you're going to check. Just a hormone panel. speaker-1 (35:11.852) A lot of times ferritin. So I see a lot of panels where people have done, you know, the TIBC, the iron, the everything except for ferritin and everything looks good. So ferritin is actually what tells you your iron storage. So for example, all of your iron numbers can look good. All your red blood cell, your red blood cell indices can look normal and you don't look anemic, but your ferritin can be completely drained. That's because all of our metabolic processes pull from our ferritin, which is our iron storage. So if we have a ferritin level, less than 20 to 30, that's really not great. Like we really want it to be in the 50s, especially if we have some of these symptoms, because that's really important for thyroid health and hormone production. So, and a lot of people don't, or a lot of lab work that I get from primary care when people say, hey, I've already had my lab work done. That's one of the things that is very uncommon to check. And it doesn't, I mean, it's, you know, it's not one of the more expensive labs, to be honest. speaker-0 (36:08.75) So you run that for us as well. And then what? What are we doing next? speaker-1 (36:14.446) I think one, it depends if we've found, if we found the smoking gun, we're good to go. Okay. You know, if we found a lot of things that need to be corrected, then we can start correcting and see how you feel. speaker-0 (36:17.502) figure to the speaker-0 (36:26.07) my joint pain is that gonna is testosterone or hermene replacement or ferritin gonna fix that you think speaker-1 (36:31.49) I think vitamin D helps a lot of times. So I mean like one of the big things when your vitamin D is low is joint pain, muscle aches, kind of things. Not sleeping well can be vitamin D. A lot of things that sound hormonal actually can end up being vitamin D levels. Fatigue, tired, brain fog, lots of things. So will it help with joints? Yeah. Is it going to fix a joint that's like what we like to call bone on bone or you know really? speaker-0 (36:55.448) super hydratus. speaker-1 (36:57.646) Yeah. So that's when we start talking about peptides. So, and, and to be fair, um, I feel like a lot of times joint injections or, know, it used to be PRP that was really popular. Now we're moving more toward exosomes, um, are going to be the most effective, I have people get really good relief with the, what we call the Wolverine stack or like the BPC one 57 mixed with TB 500. Um, it's also like, speaker-1 (37:28.704) Yeah. So OK, but his superpower isn't the claws. It's being able to heal after the close. Yeah. So where it comes from. I wish I would have named it. That would be awesome. And I hope that it's OK to say that. Wolverine's the heck. I hope Marvel doesn't come after. I didn't name it. Disclaimer. Right. Someone else named it that. speaker-0 (37:35.502) Thank you. speaker-0 (37:41.006) . speaker-0 (37:48.072) And we promote the Wolverine movies. So you should go see them. do That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, why not? They're so good. Anyway, so Wolverine Stack, you should do that as well. And that's going to help out a lot too. speaker-1 (37:53.486) I'm such a nerd. love Marvel movies. speaker-1 (38:02.252) Yeah. joint pain. Well, and you know, it's really good for so the BPC 157 is naturally produced in our gut. Yep. Kind of like hormones. We don't make as much of it either because of medications we're taking or just age related. But it's actually called body protective compounds. So it originally I think is made more to protect our GI tract anyway, because we have a lot of acid in our stomach. So it's constantly trying to heal what the stomach acid damages. And it's really, good for GI healing. So you have these people with like Crohn's disease. or irritable bowel or the people who just have like low level sensitivities to foods and they have this chronic GI upset or GI, you know, bloating and it's great for that. BPC 157 by itself is great for that. You add the TB 500 and now it's great for tendons, ligaments, joints, One of the best things of it is it speaker-0 (38:51.63) That's cool. speaker-1 (38:57.506) decreases scar tissue formation. So you know like you're not normally going to heal anywhere near 100 % and even with all these peptides, I mean with everything you can take you're probably not going to heal 100 % but you know instead of healing 80 to 85 % maybe you get closer to 97. speaker-0 (39:15.022) Do think we're a lot more inflamed like currently? Like, absolutely. have been before. Where's that coming from? Is that what we're eating? speaker-1 (39:21.88) mean, even when we try to eat healthy, it's not anywhere near as healthy as it used to be. know, our farming practices in the United States are not ideal. You know, our food supply, preservatives, hormones. mean, even when you try to get organic, like you can't guarantee that it's going to be completely organic. It's almost impossible to get completely healthful. speaker-0 (39:48.43) unless you know the farmer that. speaker-1 (39:50.316) Yeah, unless you're farming, basically. Yeah. I definitely don't have time. I would love to be able to. I feel like the food would be, you know, much better. And it would, I feel like the stress would be a little bit less potentially. And you get to be outside all day. speaker-0 (39:53.068) not on our, I mean we don't have time to do it. speaker-0 (40:08.43) was say there's some practices there too that would be helpful. speaker-1 (40:12.44) Yeah, think maybe that's what we should do. speaker-0 (40:15.086) think so. I think it's good for us. Maybe we start many farms. You just come for an hour a day, you do your thing and... speaker-1 (40:21.422) do like therapy, think that would be awesome. And then people can actually see progress like I did that. speaker-0 (40:27.0) Just walk in barefoot in the grass, grounding's good for you. speaker-1 (40:29.388) Yeah, no, yeah, I've actually done some research on grounding too. I think that's not a bad thing. speaker-0 (40:36.76) sunlight. Okay, so peptides. We could try some of that, right? Anything else on that? speaker-1 (40:38.188) bottom and D levels with Sunlight. speaker-1 (40:46.222) I think there's a lot of different peptides too. So the Wolverine blend is, it's actually probably one of the most popular ones because, you know, I get a lot of people from the gym, from local gyms. once you get a trainer there that's found out about it, or, you know, some of the, some of the guys that go there, the bigger guys that, you know, injure themselves frequently, the word will get around pretty quickly. So the Wolverine blend by far has been the most popular. but CJC and InfoMorlin, so just to help with recovery. When you work out, especially if you're new to working out and you go a little bit hard and we're a little bit not 25 anymore. speaker-0 (41:26.478) strange something. speaker-1 (41:27.528) strains, sprains, even more just muscle fatigue and soreness. So this helps with recovery and it actually helps you build muscle mass. So it's really good for a lot of guys who are trying to cut weight but still want to maintain muscle mass. Great for that. And then there's pretty much a peptide for almost anything that you can think of. There's a lot of them that I feel like, you know, I only want to have the peptides that I've researched a lot and that have more research. Granted disclaimer, no peptide is regulated by the FDA. that is being a thing. You know, we have you sign consent forms. We talk about it in the, in the consult, but it's really no different than anything you buy like GNC, vitamin shop, any of these health food stores, like supplements aren't regulated. Right. little different because it's injectable but otherwise it's basically a supplement really. speaker-0 (42:21.032) And then, so I'm on the peptides, I've got my panels right, I'm gonna start hopefully losing weight, getting metabolically better, right? And so we're gonna monitor that. If somebody's maybe overweight, without going to the medicine, what are some things that you offer at the office that you can... speaker-1 (42:42.506) I I love to just sit down and talk to people, die and exercise. Like I have friends at the gym that will teach you how to work out. You know, some of the trainers I have, you know, a lot of them will actually offer like, I don't want to say like a free day pass, but they'll. teach you how to work out like they'll give you a free consult free like let's go around and look at some of the equipment because I mean and realistically a lot of people really are just somewhat intimidated right by the gym yeah and so I mean just getting in there and getting comfortable can help a lot speaker-0 (43:13.528) Well, building muscle and preserving muscle is huge, right? As we age, it starts to go off. But I think I've got a buddy, he and I are working out every morning together. And he was like, I'm just going to try and add on muscle because I've read you can't once you're past a certain age or 50 or 60. And dude, he's getting strong. And so I'm watching him get add on muscle. So I'm assuming one of the things for you is like, let's make sure you've got muscle mass. speaker-1 (43:41.706) absolutely. especially with functionality. Absolutely. But especially with the weight loss patients making sure that you maintain a muscle like it's different. You know, obviously, if you're in the gym and you're lifting heavy weights, you're probably going to be building muscle. And if you're not, that's where we hey, let's check your testosterone level. Let's talk about some peptides. But realistically, a lot of people who are focused on weight loss aren't as concerned about muscle. So I think being sure that we're preserving muscle mass is really important. speaker-0 (43:43.15) strength because you want to be able to things functionally. speaker-0 (44:12.768) And I'm excited to see what happens with Chris as he's growing his muscle. Hopefully, we're going to work out for the next 40 years together. And we'll be 100 at that point. But watching us just functionally be better. So Chris is your workout partner. He's my buddy. He's my workout accountability partner. He's an engineer, so he engineered it all. speaker-1 (44:29.422) Chris is your good. speaker-1 (44:37.91) You're accountable. speaker-0 (44:38.7) Yeah, and it's great. And so we've got our own little schedules and we can get after it. But we want to figure out how to be as strong and healthy as possible, not super sore. So we're integrating some stretching now. We're going to do some flexibility. speaker-1 (44:53.006) hydration which I guess I should do a plug for IV hydration since speaker-0 (44:58.094) That's what was getting ready to say too, we're getting to that too. speaker-1 (45:02.008) But I mean realistically just you know there's tons of different things on the market the biggest thing is you know anything that's a diuretic is going to dry you out so that's going to be coffee caffeine all the things that are super popular Yeah, it's great. I mean it's good and we love it, but Really you need to just be making sure that you're drinking plenty of water I'm not saying you know I'm not the unrealistic person that's saying hey don't drink any caffeine What I am saying is you got to make sure you drink enough water with it like we got to stay hydrated speaker-0 (45:14.946) tastes great. speaker-0 (45:30.744) key. And then, yeah, because you and you offer IV therapy. So you can hydrate that way. speaker-1 (45:37.356) Yeah, we do. Lots of options there too. Like IV hydration is just the basis of what we do. we have different IVs for energy. We have IVs for, you know, mental clarity we have, which I feel like maybe I need right now. speaker-0 (45:45.614) Tell me about that. speaker-0 (45:56.846) I need to get one of those every day. Yes, I think so. Swing by the office. speaker-1 (46:01.73) We have a full menu on our website. That's cool. But I mean, you know, hangover cures, like I don't actually call it the hangover cure, but you know, medications for, or IVs for when I think we call it the late night. it's either like before or after to make you feel better. Just saying really well hydrated. And I mean, it really does work because part of what you're doing when you're drinking alcohol, again, alcohol, caffeine, you're dehydrating yourself. So a lot of feeling like crap is just not being hydrated. speaker-0 (46:12.44) may have consumed too much. speaker-0 (46:30.54) Now, I'm hydrated, I'm feeling a little better. Y'all, tell me about the aesthetic part of it. speaker-1 (46:36.75) So that was actually I don't want to call it an afterthought because I really enjoy the aesthetics and One of the things that I think is the best about it is kind of like we talked about with getting people a jumpstart on their health their fitness their weight loss journey is You know some of the medications just act to get you going get you jumpstarted give you a little bit of an edge I feel like the aesthetics is kind of the same way for some people like you know if you feel really bad about yourself and you do something small and it you feel a little bit better, then you do something else to make yourself feel a little bit better. It's kind of like, I don't, I don't know if it's just the dopamine hit that you get from it or the fact that you're like, I can actually improve myself, but I'm all about anything that motivates somebody to do better, be better, like, you know, feel and look your best. That's my goal. So it actually started, I w I've been doing the hormones and weight loss a little bit longer. So I've been doing aesthetics for anesthetics just to kind of speaker-0 (47:33.186) Yeah, tell us what we're talking about here. speaker-1 (47:35.148) Dysport, which is very similar to Botox, it's neuromodulators, or what people refer to as toxins, just to paralyze muscles and minor regions. yeah. And we do microneedling and filler. But realistically, I started doing that after I had patients who lost weight that now have wrinkles that bought through them. I think it's a journey, like feeling good about yourselves and aesthetics and being healthy. It's a journey route. Like we're just trying to be a little bit better tomorrow than we were yesterday. Sure. So, I think it's a combination of things. When you lose weight, you also lose some of the fat out of the fat pads in your face, which makes you wrinkle more. So, you know, you want to start treating that. I'm not saying that I'm the only one in the area. There's tons of people that do a great job with aesthetics. It was just another service that I saw a need by my patients and wanted to be able to take care of that for them. So it started kind of out of necessity. I had several patients being like, why don't you just do it? Like, we trust you. And I think that becomes the biggest thing, right? Like, we develop a relationship with our provider. We trust them. We don't want to have to go find somebody new and start the relationship. speaker-0 (48:46.272) So frustrating, right. speaker-1 (48:48.088) So it kind of developed out of necessity for being able to take complete care of my patients, which I'm actually really glad you brought it up because I was going to leave the aesthetics out of it to be honest with you. Well, and it's just motivational. Exactly. That's the best way to explain it. speaker-0 (49:00.494) When you look better, you feel better. You're trying to get momentum. You go to the gym three or four times in a row, you start this momentum kind of thing. You do it 60 days in a row, and it feels weird to not go to the gym. Or like, oh, why would I want to eat that? speaker-1 (49:21.75) And it unfortunately works the same way in reverse. After you skip a few days, you're like, man, that fast food sure is looking a lot better these days. speaker-0 (49:30.87) Yeah, and you just kind of slide down the slope again. speaker-1 (49:33.952) goes hand in hand though, trying to be healthy. Like it's like it's almost like you're eating better. So it's easier to go to the gym. You start falling off the wagon and you just completely jump off. Yeah. speaker-0 (49:44.152) Yeah, screw it. Yeah, it'll be fine. I'll get back to it next week. What is the advanced health pod? speaker-1 (49:49.782) Exactly. I'll just finish this week out. speaker-1 (49:55.304) so it is a body composition analysis. It's, speaker-0 (49:59.182) Okay. So you get BMI, like bone mass, water weight, like all this stuff, like. speaker-1 (50:06.478) So it uses impedance. Basically, you have several different electrical, oh man, can't think of what they're called. You hold it in your hands and your feet, and then you have different, it sends electrical signals from one to the other. your body. speaker-0 (50:22.382) your body. Yes. And so then it's analyzing kind of your makeup and telling you all kinds of yes. fat percentage. speaker-1 (50:27.682) So we're at body fat, skeletal mass, muscle mass, visceral fat, is really important. So visceral fat is when you think about people who have really high cholesterol and cardiac risk factors, you're looking at what their visceral fat percentage is. So if you have high visceral fat, you're more likely to have. speaker-0 (50:48.546) because I mean, because you go, yeah, I've got some fat on me, right. But also your organs have fat on them. We need to get rid of. speaker-1 (50:54.638) Vistral fat is fat around your organs. I get a lot of patients that think this real fat is belly fat or the fat in your midsection. Not the case. speaker-0 (51:03.042) Yeah, Chris and I are working on getting rid of this rule pat too. speaker-1 (51:08.93) you know, risk factor modification, number one top priority. So I think that's good, but it basically, gives you your water weight and which is great to tell you if you're hydrated, well dehydrated. you're looking at your skeletal muscle volume, your skeletal mass, your, body fat percentage. actually breaks it down into each arm, each leg, your trunk, which sadly, like my muscle is probably the least in my, it's like, it knows that I skip app day. speaker-0 (51:40.238) you do it a tiny still have this like I can't get rid of that little you know stuff on your belly it's just hard got to cut it is like nothing speaker-1 (51:49.9) And a lot of times it's actually skin too. Like when you can get down to, and that's another great thing is it'll tell you your body fat percentage. So theoretically, if you are a low enough body fat percentage and you still have, you know, you can still pinch a lot of times it's mostly skin too. speaker-0 (52:05.816) What's a good body fat percentage for? speaker-1 (52:09.294) that's gonna be one of those things I have to be really careful with people who want to think I'm like fat shaming and stuff so I speaker-0 (52:16.19) Let's spin it this way, healthy range. speaker-1 (52:19.054) And that was going to be my idea was just saying let's focus on healthy. So I feel like, you know, I have a lot of guys at the gym that do shows that want to get down between seven and 10%, which I feel like is a lot of work and that's pretty low. I think when you're in the 15 to 20 range, can. Accomplish a lot of your goals as far as you know, let's be realistic We want to be healthy, but we really want to look at naked right like we want to be able to put on our speaker-0 (52:48.75) It's not our full-time job. I'm not spending four hours at the gym. You know, like, I gotta work, you know. speaker-1 (52:53.42) Yeah. So we want to be able to go to the water park and take our shirt off and not cover our belly up. speaker-0 (53:01.641) I don't want to be. speaker-1 (53:03.374) Yeah. So I think 15 to 20 % is fairly healthy. You know, I mean, you can still, some people can still look really great at 25%. And this is for men too. So women are always going to have a little bit higher fat percentage, just because they carry a little bit of fat in certain areas, differently than men do. But I think, you know, when you're looking around 20 to 25%, that's, that's fairly healthy. And from there, it just really depends on the person. you know, some people want to be really low. Some people just, you know, have a certain goal in mind. And that's where we kind of work with everybody individually. And I don't set, you know, I don't say this is our goal based on what I think it should be. I want to know what you think you should be. speaker-0 (53:47.598) Somebody listening is like I want to get into all this but it just seems like a lot You know, or you know, then you have this like little voice in your back your head saying man You probably aren't a good candidate for that What would you tell these people to get them to come see you like I've overcome the fear, right? I mean, that's why you're here cuz you're like a great guy speaker-1 (54:03.426) Let's talk about it, right? speaker-1 (54:09.478) And I'll be honest with you. Like, I mean, you know, I'm not saying that if you want to be 7%, I'm not going to tell you that you're ridiculous. And why do you want to be that small? Right. I'm going to tell you that it's going to be a lot of work. And are you sure you want to put that much work into it? Yeah. But I mean, I can help you get to your goals because you determine what your goals are. speaker-0 (54:28.206) Yeah, so you know, you're looking at the whole, that's what I loved about it. Like it seems like you're looking at the whole person, body mass, hormones, whatever it might be. And you're helping them come up with a plan to get better. Right. And it's not like, and it doesn't sound like to me from what I'm gathering is like, you seem very trustworthy. It's not like you're, Hey, you get on this plan for the next 30 intervals or whatever, and it's $5,000 and we're going to take care of you. It doesn't, I mean, I'm not getting any of that from you. So I would. speaker-1 (54:56.526) No, I'm not I mean I'm really not trying to sell some big expensive plan like I'm all about trying to help people get healthy I mean obviously I have to be able to make a living doing it if I could do it for free I totally would like I would love that like that that's what I need to figure out is how I can teach people all the things I know for free because you know Maybe write a book the person that was in here speaker-1 (55:21.23) Wake up in a new Bugatti. I can do that. I can do that. And I'll sell it. And then I can work for free for a while. Yeah. It's a good idea. don't know how to make that happen. I'm still trying to figure that out. know. but yeah, I definitely just, try to make it realistic for people. So I wanna take it step by step, you know? And where we start varies based on where every person's at in their journey too, right? So I mean, I have some people that have already started in the gym and they're struggling with their diet. I some people that are just now starting diet, have never been to the gym. speaker-0 (55:52.322) It's so hard, know, because our lifestyles right now are just so crazy. We're running around all the time and it's hard to find good food out and about. speaker-1 (56:00.48) And that's another thing that's important too is kind of planning, which I'm going to throw out a peg for clean eats too. don't know if you've heard about clean So, and I talked to a lot of my patients about it. Realistically, it's just, it's a meal prep service. I mean, they have a cafe in there that's kind of similar to, you can say other names of businesses. speaker-0 (56:08.942) I've heard of Clint East, but tell us all about it. speaker-0 (56:23.022) 100 % local businesses. speaker-1 (56:25.912) kind of similar to tropical smoothie as far as like they're it's different it's very different but as far as like similar foods like the sandwiches the deli the protein drinks, all those things, if you want to sit down and eat there. They have a meal prep service that you can do where you actually let them know ahead of time that you want to meal prep. They'll give you a menu, send it to your email. You pick out the meals that you want and tell them how many and they have it ready for you. You pick it up and your meal prep is done. It's actually pretty affordable. speaker-0 (57:00.514) I was going to ask what's it about a speaker-1 (57:02.498) And then they have a lot of meals in the freezer as well. So you can go in at any point in time and pick up meals out of the freezer. I just think it's great. And I recommend it to my patients just because you have to plan, right? If we plan for our meals and we know what we're going to have, then we're going to eat healthy meals. If we forget to plan or we don't have it prepped and ready, we're going to stop at fast food or we're going to get, or we're not going to eat, which is even worse, especially on some of these weight loss medicines. Not eating is the worst thing you can do. speaker-0 (57:31.48) Okay. speaker-1 (57:32.592) not hungry so you got to remind yourself to eat and now you're not eating so the number one goal is lose weight be healthy maintain muscle mass so you're not eating you're not going to lose muscle I mean you're going to lose muscle mass and then your metabolism is dependent on eating a certain amount of food if you eat too little you can go into starvation mode right and those are the people that are like I don't need anything I don't understand why I'm not losing weight and their metabolism is just taint speaker-0 (57:47.285) not everyone. speaker-1 (58:01.217) So. speaker-0 (58:01.902) It is kind of crazy because you have to eat to lose weight. know, because you have to keep your metabolism rolling. Well, it sounds like to me you are looking at the whole person and you're giving them a plan and helping them all the way around. So I think it's super. speaker-1 (58:15.0) Thanks, I'm trying, like I really, I mean, yeah, no, for sure, I do. I just want everybody to be the best they can be. I'm not trying to make them like somebody else. I just want them to be the best that they can be. speaker-0 (58:17.358) I can tell your heart you want to you'd like want to take care of people. speaker-0 (58:31.43) and you're ready for the speed ramp speaker-1 (58:35.756) Yes, like the bonus round. Do I get extra points? You do. speaker-0 (58:37.87) Coffee or pre-workout drink? speaker-1 (58:43.022) honestly and this is crazy I haven't even mentioned this yet NAD it's kind of like a peptide okay it's nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide so it actually makes you have more energy at the cellular level speaker-0 (58:47.63) 780. speaker-0 (58:56.782) So that helps with bike lifting and all that. speaker-1 (59:00.482) Yeah, it just gives you more energy. like I used to be a two energy drink per day guy. Now, yeah, well, yeah, now I've been doing, you know, get your hormones regulated, NAD and now I really don't do pre-workouts. I'll do an energy drink, but it's because I didn't go to bed early last night and I don't want to say I couldn't sleep last night because that sounds like a symptom. It's always my fault because I don't have enough time. So if we could just make more time somehow. speaker-0 (59:05.282) That's a lot. speaker-0 (59:08.94) One is a lot. speaker-0 (59:29.058) be more efficient. I think so. I don't want more time. I'm Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think our body needs to rest, you know, we just need to be efficient. And how many hours would you say you sleep? speaker-1 (59:29.684) I I would be good. think that, yeah, true. Sometimes. I would rather make more time though. speaker-1 (59:45.614) For me personally, seven to eight hours is really good for me. It kind of varies based on your routine, and it's somewhat age-related, but I mean in general we all need seven to eight hours sleep. speaker-0 (59:58.946) Gotcha. back to the quick ramp. Best quick health win someone can implement today. speaker-1 (01:00:08.504) like one thing or just just one thing. Yeah, just like, you know, just a healthy diet. Yeah, that's great. Start working on diet. Yeah, let's calculate your macros. See where you need to be. Macronutrient. So it's going to be primarily we're looking at carbohydrates, fats and protein and just giving you a percent. Sounds like we're not going to have a lot of mac and cheese. speaker-0 (01:00:10.946) healthy diet. speaker-0 (01:00:17.804) macros or macaroni. speaker-0 (01:00:24.91) It's like mac and cheese. speaker-0 (01:00:29.666) Dang it! Most underrated supplement or habit. speaker-1 (01:00:35.96) Man, can I phone a friend? Bottom and D is... speaker-0 (01:00:39.008) you could just say you said vitamin D over and over and over. Yeah. speaker-1 (01:00:44.59) That's kind of like phone and a friend. It's like that. Yeah. Yeah. Good job. You were paying attention. speaker-0 (01:00:49.267) I actually was awake this whole time. One thing you've changed your mind about in health over the years. speaker-1 (01:00:56.206) my gosh. mean, I think it changes so, I mean, change is the only thing constant in healthcare, right? So. speaker-0 (01:01:04.27) I think it's interesting because some people, know, like they're like, you need to do this and then they're like, you don't need to speaker-1 (01:01:08.91) and then five minutes later it causes cancer. It's crazy. speaker-0 (01:01:12.056) Yeah. Or like, you need statins. And now they're super over-prescribed. speaker-1 (01:01:17.794) And we're like, how much benefit do we actually get from that? speaker-0 (01:01:20.138) and speaker-1 (01:01:24.638) And then we have doing the opposite and not having any cholesterol and you're like HDL is still good have good cholesterol for sure speaker-0 (01:01:31.886) Amen, Peak performance in one word. speaker-1 (01:01:36.238) awesome. Be your best. That's more than one word. I love it. Be awesome. Can we just say be awesome? speaker-0 (01:01:41.942) go be awesome. If someone listening is tired of feeling average, just okay, kind of run down, what would you say to them in closing? speaker-1 (01:01:52.45) Come see me. Let's talk. speaker-0 (01:01:54.946) you go see Mr. Awesome and his awesome stuff that he's got going on. I'm just thank you for coming on the podcast listeners connect with you. speaker-1 (01:01:58.338) Come be awesome. Awesome city, Tennessee. speaker-1 (01:02:07.758) This was actually really fun. Well, good. was not going to lie low key nervous. think low key means I didn't tell you 100 times. I'm really nervous. So maybe it wasn't so low key. You made it really easy. That was cool. I feel like I'm hanging out with a friend with a microphone. speaker-0 (01:02:16.438) I I felt like it was easy talk. hanging out yeah yeah I didn't even notice we had microphones speaker-1 (01:02:25.831) I keep feeling like I'm going to bump into it. It takes a second to... speaker-0 (01:02:28.726) a little bit like yeah yeah yeah but you did a great job all right so listeners how they connect with you directly speaker-1 (01:02:34.702) So we the website yes call Sarah 3 2 1 2 3 7 0 3 Instagram The Facebook the YouTube which show our YouTube some love like it needs some help like speaker-0 (01:02:42.539) on the Instagram Facebook speaker-0 (01:02:52.706) that Mitchell do that. speaker-1 (01:02:56.63) And then TikTok, which realistically, mean, you know, Facebook, think is where we get the most action. Instagram is right behind it. speaker-0 (01:03:06.35) So I can find you there at peak performance. speaker-1 (01:03:08.91) I think it's at peak performance, JC. Okay, I like it. JC. speaker-0 (01:03:13.08) Alright, anything I forgot to ask before we sign off? speaker-1 (01:03:20.002) think you covered a lot. You brought up things I would have forgot to mention. That was pretty good. speaker-0 (01:03:24.952) Well yeah, think, hopefully our listeners will come see you and just overcome the fear of like making an appointment. Is the first one like a consultation kind of thing? speaker-1 (01:03:35.18) do free consults for weight loss free consults for here's my thing like I know that I feel like I can help anybody regardless of right complaints are speaker-0 (01:03:38.414) So free console free like you don't pay anything. You just show up. speaker-1 (01:03:48.226) but I want you to be able to feel free to talk to me about it. And then let me tell you, know, what I think we can do before we just jump into, let's do labs. Let's stick a needle in your arm. Let's pay a bunch of money. Like, let's talk about it first. I will say for peptides, because I, I do charge a hundred dollars for a peptide consult, but that goes toward any, any purchase that you make at peak performance. So it's not really charging you a hundred dollars. It's just making sure. speaker-0 (01:04:16.27) Let's take a down payment. speaker-1 (01:04:17.258) It's kind of like, yeah, sort of like that, a retainer maybe. I have had several people that will be really super interested in peptides and take really good notes and then I never see them again. So I think that they might be shopping online. So at least I guarantee myself a hundred bucks. But I promise you that you will find something that you want to spend your money on. speaker-0 (01:04:38.604) Well, thank you so much for what you're doing to make our area more healthy and better and just giving of your time and your services and how you just love people well. So thank you for that. I wish you the best and at peak performance. I wanna come check it out. So I'll come get something. We'll figure it out. Let's some labs. Let's get some labs. And so if you have enjoyed our thing, maybe you're feeling a little off, go see Eddie, call Sarah, make an appointment, and just overcome the fear. Because you can feel better. I think he was saying, too, that we've gotten comfortable with our new normal, right? Like, you're just going to have chronic pain forever. You're going to feel like crap forever. That's not the case. You can feel great. speaker-1 (01:05:17.902) And that was part of our conversation when we were talking. I don't even know if that was part of the video. Yeah, but we were talking about how a lot of times we are just managing chronic diseases and managing, you know, oh, you feel like crap. I'm sorry. We won't let you get worse, but we're going to keep you feeling like crap. Right. That's definitely not my goal. Why you feel like crap and we speaker-0 (01:05:21.749) I don't think we got it on there. speaker-0 (01:05:37.902) Thank and get you off anything that's not natural. Yeah. Basically, we're all going to be Wolverines on these stacks. So thank you. Share the episode. Click on the link. Subscribe. Click on the show notes. Go find Eddie. And yeah. And thank you so much for listening. I hope you have a great day. speaker-1 (01:05:43.854) We want to all be superheroes. speaker-1 (01:05:48.878) Exactly. speaker-1 (01:06:01.388) Awesome. Thanks.