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Mark Belling Podcast #70: Mark addresses why so many conservative advocacy groups “drift” left over time and hopes Wisconsin Institute of law and Liberty isn’t one of them. Also, why “red light cameras” won’t make Milwaukee streets safer (they just don’t get it) and Mark’s take on Trump’s doing the impossible: getting a deal between Israel and Hamas · The Mark Belling Podcast

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Speaker 2: I have one of those big topics that I want
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Speaker 2: going to deal with the big story of the day,
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Speaker 2: and that is there's a deal. There's a piece deal
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Speaker 2: between Israel and Amas over Gaza. This seems impossible and
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Speaker 2: nobody will know if it holds. And you know, we
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Speaker 2: don't know if any peace steel holds. You know, some
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Speaker 2: peace steal that was struck one hundred and fifty years
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Speaker 2: ago could fall apart in ten years. Does that mean
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Speaker 2: that it didn't hold? But there is a peace steel
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Speaker 2: now and Israel is leaving Gaza and both sides are
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Speaker 2: going to send all of their hostages back. Apparently one
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Speaker 2: hold up, as Hamas said, well, some of the hostages
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Speaker 2: we don't control, somebody else may have them. So I
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Speaker 2: do want to dive into this story and also explore
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Speaker 2: how Trump, who I think seems to be almost solely
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Speaker 2: difference today visit you line dot com. Hamas has accepted
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Speaker 2: the Trump piece deal that Israel had earlier agreed to. Essentially,
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Speaker 2: it means the war is over. Israel has to withdraw
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Speaker 2: all troops from Gaza. There'll be no Israeli presence left,
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Speaker 2: which is how it was prior to October seventh of
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Speaker 2: two years ago. For all these people say, well, it's
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Speaker 2: occupied here, it's not occupied territory. There were no Israel,
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Speaker 2: there is no There were no Israelis in Gaza. Gaza
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Speaker 2: was controlled by the Gazans who chose to elect idiotically
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Speaker 2: twenty years ago the savages from Hamas to be their government.
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Speaker 2: Israeliefs Hamas agrees no more of this going into Israel
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Speaker 2: and killing people. The hostages that have been held are
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Speaker 2: going to finally be released, including some prisoners that Israel
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Speaker 2: has old who go back to Gaza. Now, first of all,
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Speaker 2: one of the reasons that this is happening is Israel
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Speaker 2: kicked Hamas's ass. Israel is willing to agree to this
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Speaker 2: after Hamas started a war two years ago, because Israel
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Speaker 2: realizes that it is dismantled a huge part of Hamas.
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Speaker 2: On the other hand, Hamas never surrendered, and Trump's Trump,
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Speaker 2: I think of trying to broker a deal here, realize
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Speaker 2: the one thing that he wouldn't get is what, in
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Speaker 2: my opinion, you almost always need to end a war.
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Speaker 2: Somebody has to surrender and say we lose. Hamas isn't surrendering,
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Speaker 2: but what's left of Hamas, their tunnels appear to be
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Speaker 2: totally destroyed. Their weaponry appears to be almost non existent,
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Speaker 2: the communication structure is in shamples. So from the perspective
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Speaker 2: of Israel, they have weakened the Hamas threat, and they
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Speaker 2: can hope that the residents of Gaza, whatever power they
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Speaker 2: have left, aren't going to tolerate this crap from Hamas anymore,
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Speaker 2: going off of instead of taking care of Gaza, worrying
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Speaker 2: about Israel the other component of this, It's just clear
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Speaker 2: the entire rest of the Middle East is tired of
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Speaker 2: Hamas and is tired of Iran. First of all, Iran's
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Speaker 2: got its own price. We blew up their nuclear facilities.
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Speaker 2: How much effort does Iran want to spend in continuing
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Speaker 2: to send hundreds of millions to Hamas over there in Gaza.
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Speaker 2: So Hamas is lost. It's sugar Daddy, the Russians. Putin's
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Speaker 2: got his own problems right now. So from the perspective
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Speaker 2: of the rest of the Middle East, they're tired of
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Speaker 2: the whole Hamas thing. And second lay they realize that
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Speaker 2: Trump is willing to work with everyone in the Middle East,
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Speaker 2: whether it be Saudi Arabia finally defanging Qatar. The rest
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Speaker 2: of the Middle East is realizing the only thing that's
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Speaker 2: stopping them full participation in the entire global economy is
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Speaker 2: they've been tied to hesbal On Hamas. What Trump brings
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Speaker 2: to the table on these things always is fresh eyes.
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Speaker 2: You've had all these people on the left free Gaza, free, Gaza, free,
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Speaker 2: Gaza free guys is if that has anything to do
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Speaker 2: with anything. The problem is is that Hamasque keeps attacking
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Speaker 2: Israeli's and Israel is not gonna put up with it
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Speaker 2: and say is gonna fight back? And you'd never war
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Speaker 2: every single time it happens. How do you achieve a piece?
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Speaker 2: What you've had, unfortunately here in the West is people
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Speaker 2: that are on each of these sides that they don't
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Speaker 2: seem to want peace. It certainly seems to me that
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Speaker 2: the people of Gaza have never wanted peace. If they did,
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Speaker 2: they would have left well enough alone and not gone
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Speaker 2: in and invaded Israel two years ago. To understand, you know,
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Speaker 2: Trump is a developer and he understands real estate. You
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Speaker 2: can't have better location than Gaza. It's on the It's
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Speaker 2: first of all, it's a strip. That's its name, the
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Speaker 2: Gaza Strip. Whenever you hear the word strip. It's almost
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Speaker 2: always a fantastic piece of line because strips are usually
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Speaker 2: on the water. It could have been anything. In addition
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Speaker 2: to that, they're getting all this international aid pouring in
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Speaker 2: billions instead of using that to do what the Saudis
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Speaker 2: are doing, or what Dubai did, and try to turn
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Speaker 2: yourself into an international business deck and destination and a
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Speaker 2: tourism destination. They spent all this money to buy bombs
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Speaker 2: that build all these damn tunnels and so on, and
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Speaker 2: the people of Gaza were evidently too stupid to put
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Speaker 2: up with it. In the meantime, convincing themselves that Israel's
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Speaker 2: some sort of Satan, even though Israel did not occupy Gaza.
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Speaker 2: This is not the West Bank, where you've got Jews
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Speaker 2: that are in Jerusalem, and you've got Christians in Jerusalem
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Speaker 2: and Muslims Jerusalem. Gaza was just cousins. So Trump looked
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Speaker 2: at this at fresh eyes. Nobody else in the rest
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Speaker 2: of the Middle East gives a rat's rear end about Hamas.
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Speaker 2: Hamas is essentially beaten. They all, however, want to have
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Speaker 2: a good relationship with the United States for reasons that
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Speaker 2: are obvious. So Hamas gets orphaned. In the meantime, you've
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Speaker 2: got Net and Yahoo I think wanted to plaster and
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Speaker 2: flat and every last piece of gazza was left, and
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Speaker 2: Trump felt that that was a bridge too far. Now
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Speaker 2: people don't have to say Trump's just doing this so
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Speaker 2: he wins the Nobel Peace Prize. Well maybe he is
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Speaker 2: hoping to win the Nobel Peace Prize. He's not going
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Speaker 2: to get the Nobel Peace Prize. They're handing out Nobel
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Speaker 2: Prizes this week. They're not going to give it to him.
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Speaker 2: Just the Nobel Committee is lefties. It doesn't Trump could
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Speaker 2: solve peace on the entire planet and they wouldn't give
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Speaker 2: it to him. More importantly, has he accomplished something that
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Speaker 2: eliminates a major problem in the world and saves people's
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Speaker 2: lives and allows the Israelis to live in peace. They
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Speaker 2: still have their concerns about dealing with Hesbela, the other
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Speaker 2: terrorist organization, the one that has greater control in the
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Speaker 2: West Bank. But what he has achieved here, this is
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Speaker 2: as close as we've come, I think to what Sadat
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Speaker 2: and beg And did when Israel in Egypt established the
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Speaker 2: piece four decades ago that has pretty much held. One
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Speaker 2: other point on this. Almost nobody picks up on the
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Speaker 2: role of Egypt in this. Almost nobody. But you know what, Paul,
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Speaker 2: I'm smarter than everybody else. Well I am, I've picked
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Speaker 2: up on it. Oh, they kept talking about the Gazza.
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Speaker 2: You know, the people of Gaza have nowhere to go.
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Speaker 2: They can't go into Israel. They aren't wanted there. They
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Speaker 2: have to leave Gaza because Gaza's flattened. Whoa Gaza is
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Speaker 2: not surrounded by Israel to the south of Gaza as Egypt.
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Speaker 2: Egypt doesn't want one damn Gazan to come into that country.
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Speaker 2: Nobody wants the Palestinians because no matter who it is,
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Speaker 2: it's dealing not just Israel. The Palestinians have always been
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Speaker 2: nothing but trouble. And that's because Palestinians, for whatever reason,
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Speaker 2: keep gravitating towards terror groups. Do you think Egypt wants
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Speaker 2: any part of Hamas sitting in Egypt. No, So there
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Speaker 2: was pressure on the Egyptians here by the Egyptians telling
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Speaker 2: the people of Gaza you can't come in. The people
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Speaker 2: of Gaza had nowhere to turn, and I think Hamas
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Speaker 2: ran the risk of losing the support of the people
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Speaker 2: of God, which they should have lost already had they
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Speaker 2: not accepted a cease fire that will now probably include
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Speaker 2: international aid that allows the rebuilding of Gaza, with strict
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Speaker 2: guarantees that none of that aid is used to militarily
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Speaker 2: support Gaza. The question will be when do they have
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Speaker 2: elections in Gaza and the people of Gaza having an
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Speaker 2: opportunity to prove that they're not monsters by actually choosing
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Speaker 2: a government that isn't Hamas. Sorry, next story, say one
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Speaker 2: of those big topics that I like to talk about.
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Speaker 2: I'm developing a term here. I don't think I've invented it,
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Speaker 2: mission drift. It's a problem with organizations on the right.
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Speaker 2: Just about every nonprofit that we have in the United
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Speaker 2: State leftist. It's just amazing you find like a board
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Speaker 2: that runs a museum, or a board that runs this,
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Speaker 2: or a board that they're almost all leftists. Organizations that
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Speaker 2: handog grants, it's usual a leftist money. When you do
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Speaker 2: get organizations, however, that are on the right and are
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Speaker 2: established initially by donors to do this thing here. All
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Speaker 2: the lefties are doing this over here, We're going to
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Speaker 2: do this on the right over here. What often happens
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Speaker 2: is what I'll describe as drift in which they're conservative
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Speaker 2: for the longest time, and then they start to drift
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Speaker 2: a little bit toward the middle. And if that drift
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Speaker 2: isn't nipped in the bud, the organization stops being conservative
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Speaker 2: at all. Now, before I get into the specific case
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Speaker 2: that brings this up, because my concern is whether or
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Speaker 2: not will Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty is seeing
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Speaker 2: mission drift and drifting off into this vast little middle
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Speaker 2: so that they can pose for holy pictures with a
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Speaker 2: bunch of lefties. And no, you're not maga, You're not this.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they are, but I have the concert.
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Speaker 2: First of all, let's discuss why it happens. Nonprofits are
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Speaker 2: funded by donors. The donors usually believe in the cause,
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Speaker 2: and out of the donors comes to board of directors.
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Speaker 2: The board of directors usually consist of a fair number
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Speaker 2: of high muckety MUCKs, some of whom are big donors themselves,
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Speaker 2: and then they hire a staff. This is the problem
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Speaker 2: people who go into the It's the same thing. If
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Speaker 2: you know, you see Barry Weis is going to try
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Speaker 2: now to turn CBS News abroad. As I've said, the
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Speaker 2: problem she's going to have. How do you staff up
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Speaker 2: a news organization that's not filled with lefties when everybody
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Speaker 2: who goes into the news business is a lefty who
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Speaker 2: goes to work in the nonprofit world lefties. So how
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Speaker 2: do you run a conservative nonprofit and who do you hire?
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Speaker 2: There are conservatives, but there aren't many of them, and
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Speaker 2: there cans to be this drift. It's just the problem.
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Speaker 2: One of the examples of this that's a lost cause
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Speaker 2: is the Badger Institute. I've been ragging on them for
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Speaker 2: some time. They just they're focusing on some like some
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Speaker 2: libertarian fiscal issues and some of the crap that came
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Speaker 2: that leaked out of the brains of the Koch brothers
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Speaker 2: and all of that. They got some of that, and
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Speaker 2: there's some conservatism that's in there. They're good on school
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Speaker 2: choice and a few other things. But by and large,
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Speaker 2: they don't have any particular focus on anything that actual
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Speaker 2: conservative Americans care about. And that's because many of these
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Speaker 2: people don't live the lives that most conservative Americans live.
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Speaker 2: Most conservative Americans right now are somewhere between upper middle
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Speaker 2: class to middle class to working class and a cross
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Speaker 2: racial lines. You're seeing a significant chunk of the conservatives
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Speaker 2: being young people who've had their eyes opened by Charlie
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Speaker 2: Kirk's groups and so on. But there's a huge, real
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Speaker 2: element in American politics. But these people who run these
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Speaker 2: organizations are often people who live in River Hills and
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Speaker 2: Mechwan and don't have much in common with these people.
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Speaker 2: And it's one of the reasons why the things that
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Speaker 2: they focus on are not the things that actual conservative
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Speaker 2: Americans focus on, like, for example, crime. So I've described
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Speaker 2: part of the problem is that the boards of directors
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Speaker 2: are not often in touch with the conservative issues that
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Speaker 2: are priority to the overwhelming majority of American conservatives. And
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Speaker 2: then the staff if you don't ride herd on the
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Speaker 2: staff or I have people who want me to start
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Speaker 2: swearing on the podcast, because everybody who does a podcast swears.
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Speaker 2: I can't bring myself to do it. But I've worked
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Speaker 2: my way into certain words that I've used in the past,
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Speaker 2: including on the radio, for instance, instead of saying and
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Speaker 2: I'll say right ass, you've got to right ass on
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Speaker 2: the staff. This is just a huge problem in Madison.
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Speaker 2: Do you know what the problem with the legislature and
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Speaker 2: Republican legislature in Wisconsin is Paul. The staff again, some
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Speaker 2: are great, some aren't. They all live in Madison. You
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Speaker 2: begin to see the problem there. The same thing is
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Speaker 2: true with regard to organizations like this. The board of directors,
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Speaker 2: the instant that they see some of this staff starting
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Speaker 2: to drift, you need to either fire them or tell
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Speaker 2: them stop. And in some cases, some of these boards
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Speaker 2: of directors are people who kind of think they're conservative,
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Speaker 2: but you know, are not. The last name Hammus would
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Speaker 2: come to mind of people who think that they're conservative
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Speaker 2: but are not, who support concerns to candidates and conservative
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Speaker 2: causes and then write out huge checks to butcher shops
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Speaker 2: like Children's Hospital that tries to turn boys into girls
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Speaker 2: and girls into boys, and roid ragees young people to
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Speaker 2: death by filling them with all sorts of hormones and
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Speaker 2: then wondering why they turn into be violent sociopaths. But
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Speaker 2: that's an aside. My asides are often more interesting than
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Speaker 2: my points. Mission Drift, Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty
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Speaker 2: is an organization that was developed a number of years ago.
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Speaker 2: It's fronted by Rick Eisenberg. It's been an organization that
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Speaker 2: focuses on issues of the law. Basically, the file lawsuits
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Speaker 2: or threatened to file lawsuits on behalf of individuals who
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Speaker 2: are being trampled upon by leftists, and they've been vital
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Speaker 2: because there's nobody else to do that. There's been a
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Speaker 2: couple of religious organizations that do religious civil rights and
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Speaker 2: so on, but otherwise there's nobody out there to do
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Speaker 2: this work. They've intervened, for example, on behalf of kids
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Speaker 2: that have been screwed by the WIA or another's kid
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Speaker 2: that's been screwed in the school. This direct or some
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Speaker 2: governmental body that's put in. They take on racial preferences
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Speaker 2: all over the place that are not allowed under the
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Speaker 2: law anymore. All of this has been yellman work, and
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Speaker 2: reme'm denying that. But the very very fact that will
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Speaker 2: is indispensable is my point here. If it's indispensable, we
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Speaker 2: can't let it drift. If you've got a car that
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Speaker 2: you really really love and it's starting to break, got
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Speaker 2: a couple of prime, you got to address that problem.
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Speaker 2: If you've got an old beater that's got a couple,
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Speaker 2: you can let that go because there's ninety seven thousand
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Speaker 2: other problems. Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty is filing
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Speaker 2: a lawsuit aimed at stopping a provision of the Wisconsin
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Speaker 2: state budget bill. I'm going to give you the backstory
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Speaker 2: here briefly, because the backstory isn't really my point. My
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Speaker 2: larger point is the mission drift. In order to get
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Speaker 2: the budget pass. You may recall that you had to
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Speaker 2: cut a yeal between the Republicans and Evers and the Democrats,
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Speaker 2: where Evers agreed not to veto a huge segment of
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Speaker 2: the budget in exchange for the Republicans giving them a
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Speaker 2: few things in another area. This it's a compromise budget.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that the Republicans have wanted is
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Speaker 2: a greater focus on crime in Wisconsin. The Democrats couldn't
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Speaker 2: care less about crime in Wisconsin. As we know. One
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Speaker 2: of the complaints that's been uttered over the years from
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Speaker 2: the district attorneys in Milwaukee and Waukeshaw County is their
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Speaker 2: short staffed. Now, as you know, I generally don't buy
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Speaker 2: it when public officials say they're short staffed. I bought this.
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Speaker 2: In Milwaukee County, crimes exploded. Whether or not the DA's
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Speaker 2: office is aggressive enough in dealing with it is part
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Speaker 2: of the problem. But certainly crimes exploded, and it's exploded
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Speaker 2: in Waukeshaw County in part because of the bleedover from
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Speaker 2: Milwaukee County and also because of all the crime that
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Speaker 2: can be attributed to the drug explosion that got fueled
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Speaker 2: when Joe Biden stopped enforcing the border. There's simply aren't
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Speaker 2: enough employees in these offices. And one of the things
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Speaker 2: that's happened as a result is the path of least
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Speaker 2: resistance for prosecutors is to cut plea deals or simply
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Speaker 2: dismiss charges, because the alternative is to have a case
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Speaker 2: drag out for three or four years because defense attorneys
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Speaker 2: keep filing delay motions on the prosecutors have eighty or
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Speaker 2: five other cases on their table and so on. So
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Speaker 2: part of the deal was we agreed to let Milwaukee
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Speaker 2: County raise it. There's a two part deal. Some of
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Speaker 2: this did not haul out. At the same time. Milwaukee
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Speaker 2: County got to raise its sales taxi City of Milwaukee
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Speaker 2: got to raise sales tax More money got into Milwaukee.
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Speaker 2: But then we're limits as to what Milwaukee could do
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Speaker 2: with their money, and then there were things they were
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Speaker 2: told they had to do. One of the things that
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Speaker 2: was done is Milwaukee in getting more money was when
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Speaker 2: I say Milwaukee now me in the county. They had
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Speaker 2: to hire more district attorneys, more and more prosecutors. Walkershaw
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Speaker 2: County they've wanted more prosecutors. They got some more as well,
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Speaker 2: the Milwaukee County prosecutors. The funding for that was crafted
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Speaker 2: by the term here is a car vote. This issue
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Speaker 2: is a little complicated, and I don't want to go
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Speaker 2: into an incredible depth, but you may notice that the
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Speaker 2: state Patrol doesn't patrol the freeways in Milwaukee County. Occasionally
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Speaker 2: live be a trooper in there, but it's the only
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Speaker 2: county in the state where it's the sheriff's department that
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Speaker 2: has primary responsibility. Most of the counties you'll see both.
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Speaker 2: And then there's a question of where the revenue for
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Speaker 2: fines goes. It's convoluted. What this did is takes some
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Speaker 2: of the money that Milwaukee County kicks into a school
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Speaker 2: fund and a library fund and use it instead to
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Speaker 2: fund prosecutors. All right, now, I'm a conservative, Where would
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Speaker 2: I rather see Milwaukee County find money go in to
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Speaker 2: the bloated massive public school fund and worse, the leftist
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Speaker 2: library fund over built libraries all over the state of Wisconsin.
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Speaker 2: Only employing lefties or hire some prosecutors. I know where
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Speaker 2: I'd rather have it go right. Well, that was the deal.
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Speaker 2: It was one of the wins for conservatives. Milwaukee got
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Speaker 2: more money, but it has to use it actually in
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Speaker 2: an area that might do some good. Wisconsin Institute of
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Speaker 2: Law and Liberty has filed a lawsuit challenging this provision.
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Speaker 2: Remember they claim to be conservative. They say state law
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Speaker 2: doesn't allow you to divert the money from this school
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Speaker 2: and library fund. Well, let's suppose it doesn't. There are
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Speaker 2: probably ninety seven zillion things out there on which governments
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Speaker 2: in Wisconsin are not following the letter of the law.
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Speaker 2: Why are they focusing on this? The Wisconsin Election Commission
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Speaker 2: has not cleaned up the voter rolls in the state
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Speaker 2: of Wisconsin an agent. But there's a million things I
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Speaker 2: could have that focus on. Out of all the things
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Speaker 2: in the state budget, why are they going after the
22:38
Speaker 2: thing that deals with fighting crime? And I'll give you
22:40
Speaker 2: the answer in my opinion of that, the boards of
22:42
Speaker 2: directors of these institutions don't care about crime because they
22:46
Speaker 2: all live in river hills in Mechwan and so on.
22:49
Speaker 2: And the staff is these high minded people who got
22:53
Speaker 2: all their You look kind of the John Roberts mentality.
22:58
Speaker 2: The response I've gotten from Ricky's in to my original
23:01
Speaker 2: complain on this is that the rule of law matters
23:04
Speaker 2: to us is if it done to me? Okay, it does.
23:09
Speaker 2: But again, you got to take your shots in this world, right.
23:13
Speaker 2: Why this is a priority out of all the money
23:16
Speaker 2: that we spend in the state of Wisconsin to advance leftyism,
23:19
Speaker 2: Why are you targeting some money that actually addresses any
23:23
Speaker 2: a real problem. You see my point? In other words,
23:26
Speaker 2: why this Your kid is doing eighty seven things wrong,
23:31
Speaker 2: and you ignore the eighty seven really really bad things
23:34
Speaker 2: and you go after maybe one thing that isn't such
23:36
Speaker 2: a bad thing to you. Why that? And again my
23:40
Speaker 2: concern is mission drift. We do not have a single
23:45
Speaker 2: other than maybe Mackaiver conservative as advocacy group in Wisconsin
23:52
Speaker 2: that deals with crime. Badger institutes on the wrong side.
23:57
Speaker 2: They're soft on crime. I've not ever seen Wisconsin Institute
24:00
Speaker 2: of Law and Liberty much address the issue of crime
24:03
Speaker 2: at all. But crime is a vital interest to a
24:08
Speaker 2: huge percentage of the conservative voters of the state of Wisconsin.
24:18
Speaker 2: I sent an email I did not get a response
24:20
Speaker 2: is of the time of this podcast through Rick Eysenberg,
24:23
Speaker 2: head of Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty. We had
24:28
Speaker 2: a back and forth over the original issue. But my
24:30
Speaker 2: bigger concern here is just this mission drift, that if
24:34
Speaker 2: you're not going to represent conservative values, are you straying
24:39
Speaker 2: away from really the point of your existence. And again
24:42
Speaker 2: I'm not bothering sending these anymore to the Badger Institute
24:45
Speaker 2: because they're a lost cause. I'm trying not to let Will,
24:48
Speaker 2: which is an outstanding organization drift. Now a quick point
24:52
Speaker 2: on this, This point is huge, so everybody pay attention
24:57
Speaker 2: to it. That includes like a weasly little produce are
25:00
Speaker 2: like you in there. Yes, there is never any pressure
25:07
Speaker 2: from the right on right wing groups the state of
25:10
Speaker 2: the right. The pressure overwhelmingly is always to the left.
25:14
Speaker 2: It's like the politicians to go to Madison. All the
25:16
Speaker 2: pressure from the lobbyists, the media, the staff is all
25:19
Speaker 2: from the left. Only me and maybe a few other
25:21
Speaker 2: talk shows push back from the right. So I need
25:24
Speaker 2: to give you this pushback, So leave Will alone. Somebody's
25:26
Speaker 2: got to push back on the right because of this
25:28
Speaker 2: relentless pressure that comes to the left. I sent him
25:34
Speaker 2: this which pretty much summarizes what I said, but I
25:36
Speaker 2: want to lay out the thought Rick. On my podcast today,
25:39
Speaker 2: I will be addressing the back and forth we have
25:41
Speaker 2: had over the lawsuit over the punding of New Milwaukee
25:43
Speaker 2: County eighty eights. While the specific issue will be part
25:46
Speaker 2: of my comments, the larger point I we'll be raising
25:48
Speaker 2: deals with my long standing contention that virtually all conservative
25:52
Speaker 2: nonprofit advocacy groups drift left and that virtually none of
25:56
Speaker 2: them ever focus on issues of concern to actual conservative vote.
26:00
Speaker 2: I have been on this point for ten years and
26:03
Speaker 2: have had many discussions with Rick Braber that's the Bradley Foundation,
26:06
Speaker 2: which funds conservative groups, about it and whether Bradley should
26:10
Speaker 2: continue to fund groups that do not hold conservative views
26:12
Speaker 2: on much of anything. The poster child for this is
26:15
Speaker 2: the Badger Institute for Middle and Working Class People, which
26:19
Speaker 2: is the vast majority of the current Republican voter base.
26:23
Speaker 2: The issue of crime and softness on it is a
26:25
Speaker 2: huge issue, and for many the biggest issue. It is, however,
26:29
Speaker 2: almost never an issue for most conservative advocacy groups, whose
26:33
Speaker 2: boards of directors tend to be donors, corporate dilettants and staff.
26:38
Speaker 2: These people tend to live in very low crime areas.
26:41
Speaker 2: Issues like low or cashless bail, soft sentencing, offenders free
26:46
Speaker 2: after twenty or so, twenty to thirty convictions, etc. Rarely
26:50
Speaker 2: resonate with these groups, even though they are vital to
26:53
Speaker 2: most American conservatives. The problem I have with your lawsuit
26:56
Speaker 2: against legislation pushed for by conservatives and negotiated with a
27:00
Speaker 2: reluctant Tony Evers to hire more prosecutors in Milwaukee and
27:03
Speaker 2: Waukeshaw Counties is one of priorities. This is what you
27:08
Speaker 2: focus on, whether sincere or not. Both former DHSM and
27:14
Speaker 2: current DA Lovern have confided to me that the gross
27:18
Speaker 2: understaffing of their offices necessitates the lads that often stretch
27:21
Speaker 2: for years in cases and require negotiated plea deals or
27:25
Speaker 2: case dismissals. Former Waukeshaw DA Seuwhopper made the same point
27:29
Speaker 2: repeatedly to me. So finally the issue gets addressed and
27:34
Speaker 2: some nitpicking public interest law firm is crabbing because the
27:37
Speaker 2: funding is supposed to go to a fund that bank
27:40
Speaker 2: rolls blooded public schools and overbuilt library systems. Both are
27:45
Speaker 2: hellholes of liberal and doctrination that will finds this a
27:49
Speaker 2: priority is troubling to me and is an indication of
27:52
Speaker 2: the mission drift that plagues so many conservative groups. In
27:57
Speaker 2: the last two years, Republican lawmakers have made numeros compromises
28:00
Speaker 2: with Milwaukee Democrats. The gist of these is, we will
28:03
Speaker 2: give you more money, but you have to use some
28:05
Speaker 2: of it on crime fighting. If WILL gets its way,
28:10
Speaker 2: they will have the money and none of it will
28:12
Speaker 2: be spent on crime fighting. If you respond, I will
28:15
Speaker 2: share it, but please don't use that tired old rule
28:18
Speaker 2: of law tripe. The rule of law is trampled on
28:21
Speaker 2: daily in our country. And the question here is which
28:24
Speaker 2: instances are worth objecting to. If the ACLU or WEAC
28:30
Speaker 2: had brought this lawsuit, I would not have been surprised.
28:33
Speaker 2: Isn't WILL supposed to be a counter to all these
28:36
Speaker 2: well funded leftist legal interest groups. If not, what is
28:41
Speaker 2: WILL for? Is will for conservative Americans? Or is it
28:45
Speaker 2: for something or someone else? Again, I have not gotten
28:48
Speaker 2: a response, but again, I send it this morning. We
28:50
Speaker 2: tape in the early afternoon. If there is a response
28:53
Speaker 2: that he wants to share, I'll follow up on a
28:55
Speaker 2: podcast next week. So that's my concern over this whole area.
29:01
Speaker 2: Of mission drift of organizations that are set up. I'm
29:04
Speaker 2: the right. I have this concern now about Turning Point.
29:08
Speaker 2: The reason Turning Point didn't have mission drift is Turning
29:12
Speaker 2: Point was run by Charlie Kirk. There's no drift in
29:15
Speaker 2: the guy. But now as we see internal fights, power
29:19
Speaker 2: scrabbles and so on and avoid in leadership, there's only
29:23
Speaker 2: so much Erica as Widow is taking over can do
29:26
Speaker 2: those chapters all over the country. Is it going to drift?
29:30
Speaker 2: It happens to almost every conservative organization, some of these
29:35
Speaker 2: big foundations that we have at the national level that
29:38
Speaker 2: now you know, the Ford Foundation, all the Carnegie the
29:41
Speaker 2: Fund leftist stuff they started conservative Carnig give was a
29:43
Speaker 2: steal guy, big fat cat corporate titans start these foundations
29:48
Speaker 2: and over off on one hundred years they become essentially
29:53
Speaker 2: Marxist funding organizations. It's just this is this issue of
29:57
Speaker 2: drift is a big one. Now. One of the things
29:59
Speaker 2: that I've do talked about and taking on projects that
30:02
Speaker 2: I can talk to deal with before I croak, is
30:05
Speaker 2: to actually get WILL is not a think tank. WILL
30:08
Speaker 2: is a legal organization. They file lawsuits and defend rights
30:10
Speaker 2: and so on. A think tank, a conservative thing tak
30:14
Speaker 2: to advance these ideas, because we don't have one in Wisconsin.
30:16
Speaker 2: We have Badger Institute that's not conservative. Badger Institute worries
30:20
Speaker 2: about we should make it easier for somebody to get
30:23
Speaker 2: a plumber's license. Someone qualified people come in and fix
30:26
Speaker 2: your toilet, whether or not somebody knows what they're doing.
30:28
Speaker 2: That's their like libertarian thing because they got all this
30:30
Speaker 2: Coke Brothers. I'm a little bit more concerned about the
30:32
Speaker 2: fact that you've got people who've been arrested thirty nine
30:35
Speaker 2: times on felonies that are out there. Darrow Brooksing all
30:37
Speaker 2: over the place. I just throw turned Darrow Brooks into
30:40
Speaker 2: a verb that means it's time for a break. This
30:43
Speaker 2: is the Markedlling podcast. This is the Marked Delling podcast.
30:50
Speaker 2: I have to do a ps on the issue of
30:52
Speaker 2: Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty. I pulled their board
30:55
Speaker 2: of directors here. They're all conservative people. I'm going to
30:57
Speaker 2: read them to you. Jim Barry, he's big commercial real
31:02
Speaker 2: estate guy. Conservative, he's not really a suburban type. Michael White,
31:08
Speaker 2: he runs Right Height, which is a local corporation. He's
31:10
Speaker 2: a conservative guy. And then both Michael Greeby's Michael Greeby
31:14
Speaker 2: and his son have the same name, obviously, Michael Greeby
31:17
Speaker 2: form head of the Bradley Foundation, big shot at fully
31:19
Speaker 2: and Lardner the other Michael Greeby, his son. I don't
31:22
Speaker 2: think it's junior, but they're both Michael. I think a
31:24
Speaker 2: different middle initials maybe. Anyway, he's the chief legal consul
31:27
Speaker 2: at right height. Christopher Wolfe, who's a professor at the
31:30
Speaker 2: University of Dallas. I don't really owe him. And then
31:32
Speaker 2: two staffers from the organization. Again, these are all fine people.
31:38
Speaker 2: I just wish some of these organizations, rather than choose
31:41
Speaker 2: somebody who's a big time donor, would get an actual conservative,
31:45
Speaker 2: grats roots advocate. This is one of the in there.
31:47
Speaker 2: That's one of the things that made Turning Points so strong.
31:51
Speaker 2: It was driven from the base. The reason it does
31:54
Speaker 2: such a better job of political organizing than the Republican
31:56
Speaker 2: Party of Wisconsin is the Republican Party of Wisconsin sitting
32:00
Speaker 2: there with fat, lazy old fart sitting on offices in Madison,
32:03
Speaker 2: whereas Turning Point is out there, going into campus dorms
32:06
Speaker 2: and organized all right, moving on, Ready to move on, Paul,
32:13
Speaker 2: here's a shock. Can you tell that this that this
32:16
Speaker 2: is sarcastic? In other words, this is it's not going
32:20
Speaker 2: to be a shock. Here's a shock. The guy who
32:22
Speaker 2: started the Palisades fires a lefty, who would have thought
32:28
Speaker 2: they burned down most of southern California. We now have
32:31
Speaker 2: found out who started the fire. There were two fires.
32:33
Speaker 2: The Palisades fire was the second one, but it became
32:36
Speaker 2: the bigger one. By the way, why are they all
32:40
Speaker 2: Uber drivers? I mean I think he got it fired
32:44
Speaker 2: from Uber before then, which I mean. The thing is,
32:49
Speaker 2: Uber does have standards. They do have standards. You almost
32:52
Speaker 2: never hear about an Uber driver pulling a gun and robbing.
32:56
Speaker 2: It happened. I mean, you consider it's resilient. They have standards.
32:59
Speaker 2: But part of it is it's not easy work. You
33:03
Speaker 2: can't have a zillion things going on if you're gonna
33:05
Speaker 2: do it unless you're just a hard working kind of person.
33:08
Speaker 2: In some of those are just hard working anyway. So
33:11
Speaker 2: he's like an Uber driver, it's a California Uber driver,
33:13
Speaker 2: and he's unhappy and miserable and angry and this that
33:16
Speaker 2: and the other thing. And he started to get into
33:19
Speaker 2: websites and take a look at big fires and so
33:22
Speaker 2: forth and so on. He's a donor to Act Blue.
33:24
Speaker 2: Act Blue is one of those groups that gives money
33:26
Speaker 2: to Democratic candidates. What a surprise that is. So he
33:30
Speaker 2: starts his fire and burns down all of Liberalville in
33:33
Speaker 2: southern California. People are saying, well, it's both sides. I
33:39
Speaker 2: grant you there are wing nuts on the right. Almost
33:43
Speaker 2: all of them are on the left. And it's not
33:47
Speaker 2: just you say did it, it's why? And I'll tell
33:51
Speaker 2: you why. Almost everybody on the left. This is my observation.
33:54
Speaker 2: And I'm a good observer. Don't you think I'm a
33:56
Speaker 2: good observer of social trends? Almost everybody on the left
33:59
Speaker 2: is a miserable, the unhappy person. And I think that
34:02
Speaker 2: they're miserably unhappy because they don't have God in their lives,
34:06
Speaker 2: which is true of most liberals. So that's an emptiness
34:09
Speaker 2: and a void. They tend not to be aspirational because
34:13
Speaker 2: they're miserable and unhappy. They don't like anything good that happens,
34:16
Speaker 2: because you know, it's like the people who see happiness
34:19
Speaker 2: on Facebook when they're all alone, they get unhappy. Will
34:21
Speaker 2: that Well, that's leftists. They're miserably unhappy. They don't want
34:24
Speaker 2: to see the United States of America thrive. So they
34:26
Speaker 2: end up hating the country because they're not happy in it,
34:28
Speaker 2: and they blame the country the fact that they're miserable.
34:30
Speaker 2: So they get this alienation and disaffection, and it is
34:33
Speaker 2: fed by all their media sources and their online sources,
34:36
Speaker 2: the messages they're getting on TikTok from leftist grooms, the
34:39
Speaker 2: messages they're getting from the idiots on the view in MSNBC.
34:42
Speaker 2: It's just drilled and drilled and drilled and drilled and
34:44
Speaker 2: drilled into them, and it fuels their unhappiness and their rage.
34:48
Speaker 2: Add in all the drugs that they're all on that
34:49
Speaker 2: seem to be backfiring on them, and you get what
34:52
Speaker 2: you get now of this. Katie Porter. Now, I know
34:59
Speaker 2: many of you don't know who she is. Even though
35:01
Speaker 2: you talk about somebody who's gone viral, there's a larger
35:04
Speaker 2: issue in Katie Porter. Katie Porter is the front runner
35:06
Speaker 2: for governor of California. She's a congresswoman. I am fascinated
35:14
Speaker 2: and I brought this. I brought this up with after
35:17
Speaker 2: you know, with Kamala California know is about sixty million.
35:20
Speaker 2: It's hard to say how many they have given, how
35:22
Speaker 2: many illegals that they are. California is a huge state,
35:25
Speaker 2: and it's overwhelmingly democratic, right if you're talking it, there's
35:28
Speaker 2: a like Rhode Island's overwhelmingly democratic, but it's tiny, so
35:33
Speaker 2: you know, you gotta get two senators and when you
35:35
Speaker 2: don't have that many to pick from, you might get
35:36
Speaker 2: a golf right. In fact, Rhode Island has a golf,
35:40
Speaker 2: but California it. Every one of these Democrats in California
35:46
Speaker 2: is ambitious and wants to get to the top. I'm
35:48
Speaker 2: fascinated how some of these dopes get there. Newsim's an exception.
35:54
Speaker 2: New Sims are radical and so on, but he's a
35:56
Speaker 2: well spoken, glib, articulate guy. Most of them are. Kamala
36:02
Speaker 2: can't put a sentence together. How'd she leap frog above her?
36:05
Speaker 2: It isn't just that she bomed Willy Brown, because from
36:07
Speaker 2: what I can tell, Willie Brown boings so many women
36:10
Speaker 2: that did be fifteen thousand of them competing with Kamalo.
36:13
Speaker 2: Now there's Katie Porter, she's the front runner for governor.
36:16
Speaker 2: TV station in Los Angeles. They have all the Democrats.
36:21
Speaker 2: California has a weird way of electing politicians. They don't
36:25
Speaker 2: have a primary system. Republicans and Democrats all run on
36:29
Speaker 2: the same ballot. The top two advance, so and there's
36:36
Speaker 2: a tiered structure to it and so on. But often
36:39
Speaker 2: you'll get a general election where the top two candidates
36:42
Speaker 2: are both Democrats. Usually there's a Republican who will finish,
36:47
Speaker 2: say second, because there's nine Democrats running, splitting the vote,
36:51
Speaker 2: and then in the general election the Democrats. So anyway,
36:55
Speaker 2: the key to winning the governorship in California is to
37:00
Speaker 2: get enough Republicans to join your Democrats. See, you get
37:04
Speaker 2: a plurality of the votes. So the reporter for CBS
37:07
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles asked them, and she asked them. She
37:10
Speaker 2: had a script that she asked every one of the
37:11
Speaker 2: main contents is the same three orport questions. They're all softballs,
37:15
Speaker 2: and one of them is how do you expect to
37:18
Speaker 2: appeal to the forty percent of Californian's voted for Trump.
37:22
Speaker 2: It's a fair enough question. And in their system out
37:24
Speaker 2: there where you need to get Democrats and Republicans to
37:26
Speaker 2: vote for you in order to get to the top
37:27
Speaker 2: two or win. And they all answered the question. He said,
37:31
Speaker 2: Kitty porter, why would I need anybody who vote for
37:33
Speaker 2: trupted by me. Another reporter said, well, because of our
37:37
Speaker 2: system here, do you think you're gonna get all sixty
37:39
Speaker 2: percent of the Democrats? You have to get over sixty
37:42
Speaker 2: percent in order to have the knockout. Where you're you know,
37:45
Speaker 2: trying to explain this, and she's barking back at her,
37:48
Speaker 2: and then she asked another like softball question, and like
37:50
Speaker 2: ninety seconds in, Katie, I'm done, takes off her microphone.
37:54
Speaker 2: The thing that was so weird about it is this
37:56
Speaker 2: was not a hostile head of view. First of all,
37:59
Speaker 2: she's a cat, she's a Los Angeles TV reporter. I mean,
38:02
Speaker 2: she's a lefty herself. She was asking all of them
38:04
Speaker 2: these softball questions, and Katy port by the way, they're
38:07
Speaker 2: show it. So they showed this thing and they show
38:09
Speaker 2: her melt down. They showed the reporter kind of mystified
38:12
Speaker 2: as to why she's blowing up like this. She's getting
38:17
Speaker 2: ripped by everybody out there, including other Democrats, and all
38:20
Speaker 2: the other Democrats are running against her. Say, we answered
38:22
Speaker 2: the question. We don't even think it's an unfair question.
38:26
Speaker 2: She just looked ridiculous. In addition, Megan Kelly's been all
38:29
Speaker 2: over this is you might guess, Megan Kelly's focusing on,
38:31
Speaker 2: among other things, her odd fashioned choice. She's like a
38:35
Speaker 2: big woman, and she's wearing this sleeveless thing, and she's
38:39
Speaker 2: she didn't look good in the interview and the whole thing.
38:41
Speaker 2: And and there's a backstory. It's the same backstory as Kamala.
38:48
Speaker 2: She apparently is a total bitch. You know, Kamala Harris
38:52
Speaker 2: had a reputation for going through Stafford's like crazy and
38:54
Speaker 2: just eviscerating the well. Katy Porter, who's a member of Congress,
38:58
Speaker 2: has the same reputation. And they are apparently former staffers
39:02
Speaker 2: who were on the receiving end of her abuse are
39:05
Speaker 2: now jumping out and leaking their own stuff. And the
39:10
Speaker 2: point I'm bringing all of this up is I actually
39:14
Speaker 2: am surprised that California, which has more Democrats than any
39:19
Speaker 2: state of the Union, that it doesn't have more, say
39:23
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsome types, because they have so many to pick from.
39:30
Speaker 2: I mean, in Wisconsin, what we tend to get from
39:32
Speaker 2: Democrats who get to the top is not common. The
39:35
Speaker 2: types we tend to get empty suit non entities. The
39:40
Speaker 2: Democrats and Wisconsin are basically a bunch of mediocrities. Tony
39:46
Speaker 2: eavers so bland and dull. Nobody outside of Wisconsin ever
39:50
Speaker 2: heard him. The only introduction is what he was either
39:52
Speaker 2: drunk or seeneul or whatever, and he couldn't read the
39:54
Speaker 2: photo of the Democratic Tammy Baldwin, the least consequential member
39:57
Speaker 2: of the United States Senate. When Moore doesn't do a
40:00
Speaker 2: damn thing other than vote yes when the Democratic leaders
40:03
Speaker 2: tell her to a vote know when they tell her
40:04
Speaker 2: to do that. They generally tend to be non entities.
40:08
Speaker 2: But in California, the ones that are rising to at
40:10
Speaker 2: the very very top appear to be bad at politics.
40:16
Speaker 2: It's confusing to me, and it's kind of a new phenomenon.
40:20
Speaker 2: I mean, California Democrats in the past were sort of eclectic,
40:24
Speaker 2: like Jerry Brown, brilliant guy, a little unusual, but a
40:29
Speaker 2: brilliant guy. Or Cranston died in the wool Liberal but
40:36
Speaker 2: generally people who would develop a national profile because they
40:41
Speaker 2: are smart people. The only one that could put a
40:44
Speaker 2: sentence together from California that I noticed anymore, seems to
40:47
Speaker 2: be Newsome. But otherwise you get like Maxine Waters, I mean,
40:52
Speaker 2: Pelosi could put a sentence together. Pelosi's smart, but these others.
40:58
Speaker 2: How in the world was skaty to the front runner?
41:01
Speaker 2: If indeed she's this battle axity. Everybody hates her at
41:04
Speaker 2: this interview that she did here that fell off the rails.
41:06
Speaker 2: Obviously she must have done other interviews before. And it's
41:09
Speaker 2: not like, well, of course you're gonna vote for a democract.
41:11
Speaker 2: She's got to fight through all these other Democrats to
41:13
Speaker 2: get herself up to the top. Next, they held a
41:17
Speaker 2: hearing on this stupid proposal to put in red light
41:20
Speaker 2: cameras all over the city of Milwaukee. It's being proposed
41:22
Speaker 2: in the legislature. I'm here to explain why it won't work.
41:30
Speaker 2: The bill, by the way, is sponsored by, remember the
41:33
Speaker 2: state legislature from Milwaukee. It's not gonna work for the
41:36
Speaker 2: same reason that me or Chevy ripping up all the
41:38
Speaker 2: streets and putting in the bump of curves isn't gonna work.
41:41
Speaker 2: It doesn't address the problem. All right, you're right, We've
41:44
Speaker 2: got lots of people who just run red lights in Milwaukee.
41:47
Speaker 2: They don't stop. For those of you that are naive
41:52
Speaker 2: and not understanding of what it's like to live in
41:54
Speaker 2: urban America, I'm here to wising you all up. You
41:59
Speaker 2: know who's gonna stop when there's a red light camera?
42:02
Speaker 2: You and me, You and me, and I know this.
42:06
Speaker 2: There's a few of them in Floord, are not many
42:10
Speaker 2: by Wayzapp even tells me which ones they are. Which
42:13
Speaker 2: is but you can actually tell you see the little
42:16
Speaker 2: thing here in Milwaukee, people get used. You'll see those
42:18
Speaker 2: little things about the trafficking. Those are the sensors that
42:21
Speaker 2: tell it when there's no traffic coming, switch over to green.
42:23
Speaker 2: The cameras, you can see them, they're sitting there. Illinois,
42:27
Speaker 2: Chicago had them all over the place and they were
42:28
Speaker 2: just a rebellion. They took them out. You and me.
42:34
Speaker 2: The people who are driving recklessly aren't going to be
42:37
Speaker 2: deterred by the red light cameras. Said, why they don't
42:41
Speaker 2: pay their fights? We don't in Milwaukee jail, people who
42:47
Speaker 2: won't play pay traffic fights. They don't pay their fights.
42:51
Speaker 2: They're gonna keep doing it. They have ninety seven zillion
42:54
Speaker 2: of these the mill. I keep saying this and it
42:56
Speaker 2: doesn't sink into people, and people keep forgetting it. I
42:58
Speaker 2: want you not to forget this. Milwaukee County Jail will
43:01
Speaker 2: not accept someone on a traffic ward. So if there's
43:04
Speaker 2: a warrant for your arrest for unpaid fines, the jail
43:06
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee rejects you because it's full. They have to
43:10
Speaker 2: keep enough space for more serious criminals. So if you're
43:12
Speaker 2: somebody that has a zillion traffic warrants, there's no reason
43:15
Speaker 2: unless you're like a responsible citizen for whom there are
43:18
Speaker 2: consequences for not doing these things. Here's what will work.
43:23
Speaker 2: Should I explain what will work? Will you laugh? You
43:28
Speaker 2: don't like you think I'm making this? See well, I
43:30
Speaker 2: understand I am sometimes sarcastic. This isn't they do this
43:34
Speaker 2: in some states. We don't do it in Milwaukee. Everyone.
43:39
Speaker 2: The one thing you do they do do when you
43:41
Speaker 2: don't pay your fines is they take away your driver's license.
43:44
Speaker 2: So we have a combination in Milwaukee. If people who've
43:46
Speaker 2: never had a driver's license and people who are you
43:48
Speaker 2: the suspended are revoked. If you are pulled over and
43:52
Speaker 2: you don't have a driver's license, you tow the car, Paul.
43:57
Speaker 2: That will work. Now, I know that some of you
43:59
Speaker 2: who've never had your cars to would have no clue
44:01
Speaker 2: as to why this will work. Do you know why
44:03
Speaker 2: this will work? You gotta pay fortune to get it
44:07
Speaker 2: out of the toll lot. You get told once that
44:11
Speaker 2: car might be gone. Secondly, if the vehicle is not registered,
44:16
Speaker 2: which zillions of them are not because they don't pay
44:18
Speaker 2: the registration fee, or they were suspended because of the
44:21
Speaker 2: non payment, you told the vehicle. If we passed the
44:26
Speaker 2: law that everybody who was caught driving without a license,
44:30
Speaker 2: or they're an unregistered vehicle who was pulled over by
44:32
Speaker 2: the police for any reason, or if there's a warrant
44:34
Speaker 2: on them for unpaid fines, had their vehicles told, this
44:38
Speaker 2: would fix most of this problem. It doesn't fix the
44:40
Speaker 2: problem of the young people that are stealing cars and
44:42
Speaker 2: joy riding and running through the red lights. But all
44:44
Speaker 2: the others no car, they can't do it. Why don't
44:48
Speaker 2: you just ask me to solve these problems? Well, am
44:52
Speaker 2: I not right? Do you think this would work? Well,
44:54
Speaker 2: of course it would work. One story here to share
45:01
Speaker 2: with you. Earlier in the week, I was discussing this
45:03
Speaker 2: issue of the Milwaukeeans who do not have flood insurance
45:06
Speaker 2: who are now facing massive bills after the flood that
45:09
Speaker 2: we had, and I explained the problem with flood insurance.
45:12
Speaker 2: Flood insurance actually is not a smart thing to buy.
45:15
Speaker 2: The only reason you buy it is what you end
45:18
Speaker 2: up doing is you overpay for something you're hardly ever
45:21
Speaker 2: gonna need along the lines that well, maybe you will
45:25
Speaker 2: need it. And if you don't live in a flood
45:27
Speaker 2: plain money, you're gonna flood when you have a storm
45:30
Speaker 2: like we had on the south side of then those
45:32
Speaker 2: people got flooded. I was contacted by an insurance agent
45:35
Speaker 2: who I won't name him here, but he gave me
45:37
Speaker 2: the numbers, and he points out that almost nobody it
45:40
Speaker 2: has a homeowners policy with his agency has flood insurance.
45:43
Speaker 2: But after August, he's got a chart here, the request
45:47
Speaker 2: for information on flood insurance exploded. He's got a zero
45:52
Speaker 2: to thirty six chart and it went from like one
45:54
Speaker 2: one on one to thirty six in August. And then
45:56
Speaker 2: when we're picked out, however, he pointed in why did
45:59
Speaker 2: that happen? All these people, you know, saw the impact
46:02
Speaker 2: of the people that got damaged by the flood and
46:03
Speaker 2: the askt of a flood insurance, he said, almost none
46:05
Speaker 2: of them actually bought the flood insurance. The flood insurance
46:07
Speaker 2: can run anywhere from five hundred and twenty five hundred
46:10
Speaker 2: dollars a year. Well, that's a lot of money on
46:16
Speaker 2: the rare chance that you're going to have a flood
46:21
Speaker 2: in your basement. And most people don't buy it because
46:27
Speaker 2: you know, the insurance companies that sell this stuff, obviously
46:30
Speaker 2: they're making a killing off, but they take a big
46:33
Speaker 2: hit when they have to make payouts on this. But
46:35
Speaker 2: they usually one to pay out a fortune and flooding
46:37
Speaker 2: because most people don't buy the flood insurance. So I
46:40
Speaker 2: have an insurance agent came who said, it's exactly the
46:43
Speaker 2: problem flood and the reason flood insurance is so extremely
46:45
Speaker 2: high is when the insurance companies pay it's offen a
46:48
Speaker 2: massive big check that's out there, but they would just
46:51
Speaker 2: as soon not deal with it, so they charge a
46:53
Speaker 2: high premium forward and so on. And of course the
46:57
Speaker 2: rates are higher if you live in a floodplain, so
46:59
Speaker 2: the people who have tend to buy flood insurance if
47:02
Speaker 2: people who live in a flood playing, because there's a
47:04
Speaker 2: risk for flooding that goes on. If you don't live
47:06
Speaker 2: in a flood playing, you think, well, what are the chances, Well, really,
47:08
Speaker 2: the only chance is going to be if you get
47:09
Speaker 2: a storm so badly that your some pup can't keep
47:12
Speaker 2: up like the one that we just had. And we
47:13
Speaker 2: got twelve to fourteen inches of rain, and I ask
47:17
Speaker 2: you if you had flood insurance? You said no? Is
47:21
Speaker 2: that still the answer? You don't know it? It would
47:26
Speaker 2: be kind of funny now if you, like, three days
47:28
Speaker 2: after that, got a flood or something. I would find
47:30
Speaker 2: that in music. I don't think I would have any
47:32
Speaker 2: sympathy because I think that it would be an interesting
47:34
Speaker 2: topic and I'd rather have an interesting topic and Peel,
47:37
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd feel a little bad for you. Sure
47:42
Speaker 2: quickly get over. This is the Mark Belling Podcast Football Preview.
47:44
Speaker 2: Coming up next, It's time for the Mark Belling Weekly
47:50
Speaker 2: Football Preview and some point spread picks, and we're joined
47:53
Speaker 2: as always by Mike murletta of American sports analysts in Madison.
47:56
Speaker 2: Their website is a sa win ones dot com. We're
48:02
Speaker 2: getting into the guts of the football season. Almost all
48:05
Speaker 2: the college teams are now moving into conference play. NFL
48:08
Speaker 2: games have started to get important. What would you like
48:11
Speaker 2: to share about anything going on this weekend?
48:12
Speaker 3: Mike at asa, I think what we're gonna do, Marcus,
48:16
Speaker 3: we'll decide later today and they can check our website tomorrow.
48:19
Speaker 3: I think we'll have a discounted weekend package all of
48:23
Speaker 3: our football plays between Friday and Monday, and we may
48:27
Speaker 3: throw in baseball to our base I don't do baseball,
48:30
Speaker 3: but our baseball run has been insane, where since the
48:32
Speaker 3: end of July, we have a record in baseball of
48:34
Speaker 3: fifty three and twenty three since the end of July. Wow,
48:38
Speaker 3: So we may throw something.
48:39
Speaker 2: You know, one of these guys that's picking these minus
48:41
Speaker 2: three twenty five favorites.
48:43
Speaker 3: Right, No, no, no, no, no, no, nope, no small favorites
48:47
Speaker 3: and underdogs and totals. Well, I have.
48:49
Speaker 2: A sacred never play a team in baseball over minus
48:53
Speaker 2: one forty. I have no idea if the math holds
48:56
Speaker 2: up on that or not. But I mean, you just
48:58
Speaker 2: have to win so many games to make up for
49:00
Speaker 2: one loss. Anyway, as long as you're here, we're doing
49:02
Speaker 2: the podcast early in the afternoon on Thursday, before the
49:05
Speaker 2: Brewers play. Do you have any sense on the remainder
49:08
Speaker 2: of the Brewers Cubs game? Where As you said, you're
49:10
Speaker 2: not the baseball guy over at the company, and you
49:12
Speaker 2: don't really have anything better to offer than the rest
49:14
Speaker 2: of us.
49:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't do the baseball for US.
49:18
Speaker 3: I follow the Brewers obviously, and uh, you know the line.
49:21
Speaker 3: The line was around even when they didn't know who
49:24
Speaker 3: was pitching. And now it looks like since Parolta's been
49:26
Speaker 3: thrown up there, it looks like they're minus one twenty. Yeah,
49:29
Speaker 3: the Brewers are the better team. They're the better team.
49:31
Speaker 3: I think they'll win in the long run here and
49:32
Speaker 3: hopefully they ended today.
49:33
Speaker 2: Well. The problem is is that now that Quinn Priester stunk,
49:37
Speaker 2: the Brewers have one starting pitcher. They just they won.
49:40
Speaker 2: It's Freddy Peralta. And I'm a nervous nelly about the
49:45
Speaker 2: whole thing, but I think that that first inning last
49:48
Speaker 2: night against the Cubs was just a disaster. They don't
49:51
Speaker 2: have that inning, they win the game, and Freddie Parolta
49:53
Speaker 2: pitch's game one of the championship series. The pitching's totally
49:56
Speaker 2: set up. Now, best case scenario, they survive and they
50:00
Speaker 2: had to use up Freddy. Anyway, let's talk about football.
50:03
Speaker 2: Enough about baseball, let's first turn our attention to college football.
50:08
Speaker 2: Once I found myself talking about Indiana every week. But
50:11
Speaker 2: one of the feature games this week, which I think
50:13
Speaker 2: is really interesting is Indiana, which continues to look like
50:18
Speaker 2: a powerhouse in the Big Ten, either winning big or
50:21
Speaker 2: winning by just enough. And they face Oregon, who might
50:26
Speaker 2: be one of the best teams in the country. They
50:28
Speaker 2: started this skid that Penn State had. They're both unbeaten.
50:32
Speaker 2: The game is out there in Oregon. Oregon's a pretty
50:35
Speaker 2: hefty favorite. Really hard to evalue it. I think how
50:39
Speaker 2: good both of these teams are. Is this the week
50:42
Speaker 2: that Indiana gets its come up and said is blown
50:45
Speaker 2: out of the stadium? Or do they make another statement here?
50:48
Speaker 3: Well? The line the line move is interesting because it
50:50
Speaker 3: open Oregon nine and a half and it's down to seven.
50:53
Speaker 3: So those are guys that bet money for a living
50:57
Speaker 3: that move that quickly down to seven. I don't know
51:00
Speaker 3: necessarily agree or disagree with it. The East to West thing,
51:04
Speaker 3: Let's talk about something first before I get to the
51:05
Speaker 3: East to the West Big Ten. Both these teams are
51:09
Speaker 3: a lead on both sides of the ball. If you
51:10
Speaker 3: look at their numbers so far this season, there's eighteen
51:13
Speaker 3: teams in college that average at least seven yards per play,
51:16
Speaker 3: and there's twenty two defenses that allow four and a
51:19
Speaker 3: half yards per play or less, there's five that do both,
51:23
Speaker 3: and these are two of the five, along with Ohio
51:25
Speaker 3: State Old Dominion in Texas Deck, so two very good teams.
51:29
Speaker 3: The east to West thing would worry me a little bit.
51:31
Speaker 3: Since the start of last season, teams going from the
51:34
Speaker 3: Midwest or the East to play in the West Coast
51:37
Speaker 3: are four and fourteen straight up and five twelve and one.
51:40
Speaker 2: Again, No, I never would have thought that. I know,
51:42
Speaker 2: it's hard to go the other way, time zone and
51:44
Speaker 2: all of that stuff, but you know, and West Coast
51:47
Speaker 2: isn't all the same. You know, you go to play UCLA,
51:50
Speaker 2: you're at an empty stadium. You go to play Oregon
51:52
Speaker 2: and you're in a rock as packed home field stadium.
51:55
Speaker 2: I never would have not thought it would have been
51:57
Speaker 2: that drastic. There's probably no reason for it other than
52:01
Speaker 2: home field advantage, but it's obviously something to take into consideration.
52:05
Speaker 2: And now that the Big Ten stretches from coast to coast,
52:08
Speaker 2: it's probably something to keep an eye on.
52:09
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, definitely. I ran those numbers yesterday and
52:13
Speaker 3: I was a little shocked too, not only straight up
52:15
Speaker 3: but against the spread too, only five twelve and one.
52:18
Speaker 3: Oregon's won forty one of the last forty two home games.
52:22
Speaker 3: They're tough to beat there. And just Signetty, the head
52:25
Speaker 3: coach of Indiana, put what he's done in perspective quick
52:28
Speaker 3: He's sixteen and two at Indiana. Before he came the
52:32
Speaker 3: previous four years they won fifteen games total in four
52:34
Speaker 3: years and he's sixteen and two there, so he's turned
52:36
Speaker 3: them around quick well.
52:38
Speaker 2: And Lanning, the coach of Oria. You might have the
52:40
Speaker 2: two best coaches at all of college college football in
52:42
Speaker 2: this game. Dan Lanning at Oregon is just you know,
52:46
Speaker 2: that's always been a good offensive program. He ran the
52:48
Speaker 2: defense at Georgia and now they're just good on both
52:50
Speaker 2: sides of the ball. Another really interesting game, Wisconsin plays Iowa.
52:56
Speaker 2: The game is in Madison on Saturday. This is probably
53:01
Speaker 2: Wisconsin's best chance for a win. Iowa was a very
53:05
Speaker 2: good team, but as usual with their offense, isn't that good.
53:10
Speaker 2: Wisconsin has no offense, but their defense has looked better
53:14
Speaker 2: and better. I believe Iowa is favored by three or
53:16
Speaker 2: three and a half, which is the smallest side in
53:18
Speaker 2: Wisconsin seine in a couple of weeks. Do the Badgers
53:21
Speaker 2: have a chance to win this game? And do they
53:24
Speaker 2: have any kind of an offense, given that they appeared
53:27
Speaker 2: to now be committed for maybe the rest of the
53:29
Speaker 2: season to Hudter Simmons, the third stringer transfer from Southern Illinois,
53:33
Speaker 2: as their quarterback.
53:35
Speaker 3: Well, don't expect much offense in this game. Obviously. This
53:38
Speaker 3: is the lowest total of the season in college football,
53:41
Speaker 3: right around thirty five points, so it hadn't been anything
53:45
Speaker 3: lower this season. Both offenses are poor. I mean, they
53:48
Speaker 3: both rank in the bottom twenty in yards per game,
53:51
Speaker 3: yards for play, all that kind of stuff. Wisconsin's dead
53:54
Speaker 3: last in scoring in the Big Ten. Wisconsin struggled offensively
53:58
Speaker 3: this year, and now they play a really good defense
54:01
Speaker 3: that's had their number the last two years. And to
54:03
Speaker 3: put it in perspective, mark the last two seasons against Iowa.
54:07
Speaker 3: Wisconsin's had twenty five offensive possessions and scored one touchdown
54:11
Speaker 3: in the last two seasons against Iowa. They need to
54:14
Speaker 3: find some offense somehow. I think they'll slow Iowa down.
54:19
Speaker 3: But you know, Iowa might get to thirteen points and
54:22
Speaker 3: win this game. They might not have to get to
54:23
Speaker 3: more than that. I don't know if Wisconsin's going to
54:25
Speaker 3: score more than a couple of touchdowns even if they
54:27
Speaker 3: get to that. The one thing Wisconsin has I don't
54:31
Speaker 3: want to say has going for them, but this is
54:33
Speaker 3: the one game they focused on the offseason, the number
54:36
Speaker 3: one game they focused on after losing forty two to
54:38
Speaker 3: ten and giving up over three hundred yards rushing last year.
54:42
Speaker 3: A lot of Iowa talk, forty two pushups after practice
54:46
Speaker 3: for the Iowa game, all that kind of stuff. So
54:47
Speaker 3: they're really focused on that game. Are they good enough
54:50
Speaker 3: to make it matter? I don't, And they have to.
54:53
Speaker 2: Do it with a third string quarterback, and just third Yeah,
54:56
Speaker 2: who's looked better I think than the second string quarterback.
54:59
Speaker 2: But neither of them approached for Billy Edwards, who I
55:02
Speaker 2: think he's out for the season. They're not committing to that,
55:05
Speaker 2: but I don't see any particular sign that magically he's
55:08
Speaker 2: going to have a good knee. Again, let's turn our
55:10
Speaker 2: attention to the NFL and start with the Packers game.
55:14
Speaker 2: The Packers Bengals game the middle of this week got
55:16
Speaker 2: a lot more interesting than it did before. The Bengals
55:21
Speaker 2: now have a new quarterback. Their star quarterback, Joe Burrow
55:24
Speaker 2: is out for many more weeks. They traded to Cleveland
55:27
Speaker 2: for Joe Flacco, who is about eighty six years old,
55:30
Speaker 2: but isn't bad. He not good, but he isn't bad
55:34
Speaker 2: the Packers. Yeah, poll points out. He already beat the Packers.
55:37
Speaker 2: He's got an opportunity to beat the Packers twice with
55:40
Speaker 2: different teams before the middle of the before the middle
55:44
Speaker 2: of October. Very very interesting game. First of all, is
55:47
Speaker 2: Flacco going to start just after a couple of practices
55:49
Speaker 2: and your thoughts on the Packers and the Bengals in
55:52
Speaker 2: green Bay?
55:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like he's going to start, which is
55:56
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if that's good for green
55:58
Speaker 3: Bay or bad for green Bay.
56:00
Speaker 2: First of all, Browning, Jake Browning was terrible for Cincinnati.
56:02
Speaker 2: I mean, they had no offense at all after Burrow.
56:05
Speaker 3: Had done no. They've scored thirty seven total points in
56:08
Speaker 3: the last three games, so they can't score. Can Flacco
56:11
Speaker 3: come in one week and beat a savior there? I
56:15
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean he's thirty first out of thirty
56:17
Speaker 3: two starting quarterbacks and QBR, ahead of only cam Ward
56:20
Speaker 3: of the Titans. He hasn't been great, and as Paul said,
56:23
Speaker 3: he beat green Bay already, but he beat green Bay
56:25
Speaker 3: by because the defense.
56:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cleveland's defense beat Green Bay. Joe Flacco didn't do
56:30
Speaker 2: anything to beat to beat Green Bay. And if the
56:33
Speaker 2: Packers lose, it's going to have to be the same thing.
56:35
Speaker 2: I think for Cincinnati's defense beats Green Bay and that's.
56:40
Speaker 3: Not gonna happen. I'm in their defense ranks twenty fifth
56:43
Speaker 3: or lower in scoring, total yards, pretty much everything. And
56:46
Speaker 3: if you take up Cincinnati's first game against Cleveland, where
56:49
Speaker 3: they held a bad offense to sixteen points, they've allowed
56:52
Speaker 3: thirty five points per game from that point on. You know,
56:55
Speaker 3: I just don't think they can stay in this game.
56:57
Speaker 3: There's a reason Green Bay's favored by fourteen points. One
57:00
Speaker 3: of the Packer.
57:00
Speaker 2: The Packers need to kill somebody. They need to get
57:03
Speaker 2: their mojo back, and it's off the by, it's in Lambeau,
57:07
Speaker 2: Cincinnati is you know, it's everything points and if Green
57:12
Speaker 2: Bay doesn't win big, there's reasons to be really concerned
57:15
Speaker 2: about what the Packers are. Like a lot of other
57:18
Speaker 2: interesting games in the NFL, I mean, you've got Detroit
57:20
Speaker 2: playing Kansas City and so on. The one I cherry
57:23
Speaker 2: picked out though, is the Seahawks and the Jaguars. They're
57:27
Speaker 2: both having very good seasons, and I think it's fair
57:31
Speaker 2: to say that not many people expected either of them
57:34
Speaker 2: to have very good seasons. In both cases, however, there's
57:38
Speaker 2: just a sense that it's a mirage. I mean, I
57:41
Speaker 2: have no clue as to how Jacksonville beat Kansas City
57:43
Speaker 2: last week, but they beat Kansas City last week. I mean,
57:45
Speaker 2: they're all gained by eighteen zillion yards. They had to
57:48
Speaker 2: score on a remarkable touchdown run by Trevor Lawrence, whose
57:52
Speaker 2: quarterback stats are not any good at all. Seattle, they're
57:57
Speaker 2: in a really, really tough division. They look to me
57:59
Speaker 2: like maybe they were the worst team in that division,
58:02
Speaker 2: but they're not. Another two of them faced one another.
58:04
Speaker 2: Give me your thoughts on the Seahawks and the Jaguars.
58:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle's off a tough wall. We were on Seattle
58:09
Speaker 3: last week at home against Tampa They lost that game.
58:13
Speaker 3: They averaged eight point six yards per play on offense
58:15
Speaker 3: in that game. But their defense, who had been really good,
58:19
Speaker 3: was not good last week against Tampa Bay. And and
58:21
Speaker 3: on a side, no Tampa Bay one on the last
58:24
Speaker 3: second field goal. Again, Tampa Bay has got four wins
58:26
Speaker 3: this year have all come in the last minute, and
58:27
Speaker 3: three of their last three other four wins have come
58:29
Speaker 3: in the final six seconds of the game.
58:31
Speaker 2: So the weird thing about Tampa Bay is every week
58:33
Speaker 2: the points spread in their game it's three three, they're
58:35
Speaker 2: favored by three or dog by three. It's always three,
58:39
Speaker 2: and sometimes the infrontal the three and a half.
58:42
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, that's because they win on the last play.
58:44
Speaker 2: Of the game, I guess.
58:46
Speaker 3: So neither team's in great situation. Obviously, Seattle's longest travel
58:51
Speaker 3: you can probably make. But Jacksonville off Monday night and
58:55
Speaker 3: you mentioned they got out game four hundred and seventy
58:57
Speaker 3: six to three nineteen Jacksonville doing it.
59:00
Speaker 2: We'll took the chiefs of that game, and it was
59:04
Speaker 2: just it was Kansas City played better. In fact, Kansas
59:07
Speaker 2: City's another hard read in the Detroit Kansas City game
59:10
Speaker 2: this weekend, which we don't have time to get to.
59:12
Speaker 2: Really really tough call as well, because Kansas City is
59:16
Speaker 2: usually they're worse than their record. This year they're better.
59:18
Speaker 2: They're better than the record. Anyway, finish off your thought
59:21
Speaker 2: of Jacksonville.
59:21
Speaker 3: Mike, Yeah, Jacksonville's winning because of the turnover margin. We
59:24
Speaker 3: know how important that is in the NFL. They're plus
59:26
Speaker 3: eight turnovers. They got fourteen takeaways, which is four more
59:29
Speaker 3: than anyone else in the NFL. And last week they
59:32
Speaker 3: won by three points despite a ninety nine yard interception return.
59:36
Speaker 3: That's a fourteen point swing and they still had to
59:38
Speaker 3: score in the last few seconds to win that game.
59:40
Speaker 3: They shouldn't have won that game, Paul, that was a tough,
59:42
Speaker 3: tough loss there. You know, if they can keep creating turnovers,
59:46
Speaker 3: they're going to keep winning. That's just the way it is.
59:48
Speaker 3: I don't think Jacksonville's as good as their record.
59:52
Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams that are as good as
59:53
Speaker 2: their record this year, and there's a lot of teams
59:55
Speaker 2: that seem better than their records. But nineteen million coaches
59:58
Speaker 2: have said, your record is your record, all right, speaking
1:00:01
Speaker 2: of records, I'm having a very good year with my
1:00:04
Speaker 2: picks here, and nobody else said. This program seems to be.
1:00:07
Speaker 2: Paul was the only losey last week with that aforementioned
1:00:10
Speaker 2: lost to Jacksonville. Took the Chiefs to win by four
1:00:12
Speaker 2: or more. Mike got off the Schneider had a very
1:00:14
Speaker 2: good pick. Cincinnati. That's college Cincinnati, University of Cincinnati. They
1:00:19
Speaker 2: beat Iowa State. They were favored by one and a half,
1:00:21
Speaker 2: and I think that it was an eight point game
1:00:22
Speaker 2: and kind of dominated them. Cincinnati is one of those
1:00:25
Speaker 2: kind of under the radar teams in college football that
1:00:28
Speaker 2: appears to be pretty good, and I had to win
1:00:31
Speaker 2: as well. I'm now five and one. I'm going to
1:00:33
Speaker 2: keep going out about five on one, because Paul, after
1:00:35
Speaker 2: this week, I'm going to be five and two. I
1:00:36
Speaker 2: could not find a game that I liked. I just
1:00:38
Speaker 2: could not. Anyway. I took the Lions to beat the
1:00:40
Speaker 2: Bengals by more than ten, and it was only thirteen,
1:00:43
Speaker 2: but a little misleading there. They were up twenty eight
1:00:46
Speaker 2: to I think three in the late in the third quarter,
1:00:49
Speaker 2: and Cincinnati scored a couple of late touchdowns two point
1:00:54
Speaker 2: conversion and Detroit got a safety and all of that
1:00:57
Speaker 2: at the end. But I won and I covered that.
1:01:00
Speaker 2: All right, All of that is the past. Let's get
1:01:01
Speaker 2: to this weekend, Paul. You get to go first. Which
1:01:03
Speaker 2: game are games you want to hear? The line on
1:01:07
Speaker 2: the Bears at the Commanders every week he asked me
1:01:12
Speaker 2: about a game that's impossible to figure out. I have
1:01:14
Speaker 2: no clue on that game. Let me find it. The
1:01:17
Speaker 2: Bears at the Commanders games in Washington. It's on Monday night,
1:01:21
Speaker 2: and the Commanders, who still don't have Daniels, are four
1:01:24
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites. They were looked much better
1:01:27
Speaker 2: last week than most people thought they would. Let me
1:01:33
Speaker 2: find that here he's asking you, surely, oh, here it is.
1:01:43
Speaker 2: That's that's yeah. There's two Monday night games. That's a
1:01:48
Speaker 2: little mixed up. There's two Monday night games, which is
1:01:50
Speaker 2: really stupid that they did. Don't we all agree that
1:01:52
Speaker 2: that's stupid. Well, especially they're up against it's going to
1:01:56
Speaker 2: be there's two Major League Baseball playoff games that night
1:01:58
Speaker 2: that night too, and hopefully the Brewers that were in
1:02:01
Speaker 2: one of them. If they're not in one of them,
1:02:03
Speaker 2: it's because they've lost the cub Series altogether. Anyway, that game,
1:02:07
Speaker 2: Buffalo is at Atlanta and the Bills are favored by
1:02:13
Speaker 2: four and a half on the road four and a half.
1:02:17
Speaker 2: They're both four and a half. You're going to take
1:02:21
Speaker 2: Washington to beat the Bears by more than four and
1:02:23
Speaker 2: a half. By the way, before you get to that,
1:02:26
Speaker 2: do you prefer Buffalo or Atlanta? You would have taken Buffalo.
1:02:30
Speaker 2: I would have taken Atlanta, but as I said, I
1:02:31
Speaker 2: don't have a strong opinion on anything. I think we're
1:02:34
Speaker 2: talking about teams. Some teams are not as good as
1:02:36
Speaker 2: their record, and other teams are better than the record.
1:02:38
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo has struck me as a team that
1:02:40
Speaker 2: is nowhere near as good as their record. They just
1:02:43
Speaker 2: seem to have. They don't seem as strong to be
1:02:47
Speaker 2: as they were as I thought they were going to be. Anyway,
1:02:49
Speaker 2: you're saying the Commanders over the Bears. Boy, these are
1:02:53
Speaker 2: too completely question mark teams to me that are hard
1:02:57
Speaker 2: to figure out. I mean, why do you like the Commanders?
1:03:04
Speaker 2: Paul says, the Bears are off the by The Bears
1:03:08
Speaker 2: just came off of they had a win before their bye.
1:03:13
Speaker 2: You say, yeah, Dallas, But well, how did Green Bay
1:03:16
Speaker 2: do against that same Dallas team. I mean, Washington doesn't
1:03:20
Speaker 2: have the quarterback, but they're still putting up points. But
1:03:23
Speaker 2: their defense is She's I have no clue on that game,
1:03:27
Speaker 2: but I'm kind of clueless on every game in the
1:03:29
Speaker 2: NFL this weekend. What are your thoughts of the Bears
1:03:31
Speaker 2: in Washington?
1:03:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bears are in a better situation. I mean, they
1:03:35
Speaker 3: have the week off and Washington played in LA last week.
1:03:38
Speaker 3: But Daniels is back. He played last week?
1:03:41
Speaker 2: Is back. I guess I was mixed up about that.
1:03:43
Speaker 2: There's so many quarterbacks that have been heard of it
1:03:45
Speaker 2: and mixed up about who's back and who isn't.
1:03:47
Speaker 3: Okay, Daniels playing, Yeah, he played last week. Chicrgo's coming
1:03:50
Speaker 3: off a bye. They beat the Raiders two weeks ago,
1:03:54
Speaker 3: the twenty five to twenty four and got dominated yardage
1:03:56
Speaker 3: wise by the Raiders. This is the infamous hail Mary
1:04:00
Speaker 3: from last week. If last year, if you remember Washington
1:04:02
Speaker 3: scored on like a fifty five yard hail Mary at
1:04:05
Speaker 3: the buzzer to beat Chicago last week. If you're the
1:04:08
Speaker 3: last year, if you remember that game, I don't have
1:04:10
Speaker 3: a real feel on this game. We probably won't use
1:04:12
Speaker 3: it either way.
1:04:13
Speaker 2: Okay, give me a gamer games you'd like her about Mike.
1:04:18
Speaker 3: Let's stay in the NFL. Let's look at the game
1:04:22
Speaker 3: we talked about Seattle.
1:04:23
Speaker 2: Jacksonville, Seattle and Jacksonville. All right, Yeah, that game is
1:04:28
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville and the line is one and a half.
1:04:31
Speaker 2: The Jaguars are favorite at home by one and a half.
1:04:34
Speaker 3: I'm taking Seattle, You're taking Seattle.
1:04:36
Speaker 2: Well, Jacksonville just came off of one of the most
1:04:39
Speaker 2: implausible wins I've ever seen. Seattle is as we're saying
1:04:44
Speaker 2: that they're better than I thought they'd be. You like
1:04:46
Speaker 2: the Seahawks on the road. This is one of those
1:04:49
Speaker 2: West Coast teams going over and playing on the East
1:04:52
Speaker 2: Coast and the long trip and all of that. But
1:04:54
Speaker 2: we went through some of your thoughts and give me
1:04:55
Speaker 2: the reason that you tip over towards Seattle.
1:04:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only thing I'd don't like about this
1:05:00
Speaker 3: game is Seattle going to the west going to the
1:05:02
Speaker 3: East Coast. Again. We talked about it. Seattle is off
1:05:05
Speaker 3: a loss where they probably should have won. They're going
1:05:08
Speaker 3: to the East Coast against Jaguars on a short week,
1:05:11
Speaker 3: which kind of negates the long travel, coming off their
1:05:15
Speaker 3: biggest win in three or four years, a game they
1:05:17
Speaker 3: never should have won. Jacksonville's had three or four games
1:05:20
Speaker 3: they probably shouldn't have won this year. We talked about
1:05:22
Speaker 3: the turnovers. Jacksonville is getting out gained yards for playing
1:05:26
Speaker 3: yards per game this year in their games, Seattle has
1:05:29
Speaker 3: the second best yards per play margin in the NFL.
1:05:32
Speaker 3: They have much better numbers offensively and defensively. Seattle's the
1:05:35
Speaker 3: better team here, they're getting points. If Jacksonville doesn't get
1:05:39
Speaker 3: two or three turnovers again from Seattle, I think. I
1:05:41
Speaker 3: think Seattle wins this game. So I'm gonna take Seattle
1:05:44
Speaker 3: plus the one and a half all.
1:05:45
Speaker 2: Right time to get a pick for me. And as
1:05:47
Speaker 2: I say, I struggled, part of me wants to take
1:05:52
Speaker 2: the Lions again to beat Kansas City. They're an underdog
1:05:56
Speaker 2: for having sakes against Kansas City, and Detroit's offense just
1:06:00
Speaker 2: is unstoppable. But there's something that bothers me about that game,
1:06:03
Speaker 2: and that is that I can't get a full rid
1:06:06
Speaker 2: on Kansas City right now. And I also think that
1:06:09
Speaker 2: Kansas City needs to win a whole lot more than
1:06:11
Speaker 2: Detroit does, so I just can't go there. So I'm
1:06:13
Speaker 2: not doing that. I talk myself out of about a
1:06:15
Speaker 2: zillion other games, so I'm gonna get it out of
1:06:18
Speaker 2: the way very very early. I've got a game that's
1:06:21
Speaker 2: going on tonight, and you talk about an innocuous game
1:06:25
Speaker 2: in which hardly anybody listening to me is gonna know anything.
1:06:28
Speaker 2: But either of these teams, they're both pretty good. Though.
1:06:29
Speaker 2: I'm going into the AAC, the American Association Conference East
1:06:34
Speaker 2: Carolina is at Tulane. Toulane, of course, is from New Orleans.
1:06:39
Speaker 2: Tulane at home is favored by six and a half,
1:06:42
Speaker 2: and I'm taking East Carolina. East Carolina is off to
1:06:47
Speaker 2: a pretty good start. They're only bad loss so far
1:06:51
Speaker 2: was to BYU, who's really really good. Tulane just does
1:06:55
Speaker 2: not have much offense. Tulane started the season with a
1:06:58
Speaker 2: couple of impressive wins, and they paced it Northwestern. But
1:07:01
Speaker 2: I don't think they have a lot of offense. The
1:07:03
Speaker 2: quarterback isn't any good at all, is competing only fifty
1:07:05
Speaker 2: four percent of his passes. East Carolina's quarterback is competing,
1:07:10
Speaker 2: completing sixty eight percent of his passes. The Tulane coach
1:07:13
Speaker 2: is an overrated guy named some Row. East Carolina's coach
1:07:16
Speaker 2: is a genius. He took over in the middle of
1:07:19
Speaker 2: last season on an interim basis from the head coach there.
1:07:22
Speaker 2: His name was Houston, and they've done nothing but win
1:07:26
Speaker 2: ever since. They've been rolling since that point. And I
1:07:29
Speaker 2: think that they're very good on defense and decent enough
1:07:33
Speaker 2: on offense. I think that they win the game straight up.
1:07:36
Speaker 2: I just think East Carolina is a better team than
1:07:39
Speaker 2: people think. Also, there's been some line movement on that
1:07:41
Speaker 2: game in which the line went down. In other words,
1:07:44
Speaker 2: East Carolina is not getting as many points. Mike talked
1:07:47
Speaker 2: about that a little bit earlier. I think East Carolina
1:07:49
Speaker 2: is a better team than people think, and they can
1:07:53
Speaker 2: win the game. It's a very tepid pick. However, at
1:07:56
Speaker 2: a normal week, that would have been my sixth or
1:07:57
Speaker 2: seventh choice. I just really couldn't find anything I like
1:08:01
Speaker 2: more than that, so went in doubt. I took an
1:08:03
Speaker 2: underdog so I can get some points and maybe, if
1:08:05
Speaker 2: nothing else, lose by six points and still cover the spread.
1:08:08
Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts in that game? I know
1:08:09
Speaker 2: you know about every single game that's being played this weekend,
1:08:12
Speaker 2: what about that one?
1:08:13
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I don't disagree with that. The line came
1:08:15
Speaker 3: from plus seven nine and plus six and a half,
1:08:17
Speaker 3: which is telling it.
1:08:18
Speaker 2: In the early season, line was higher, and the power
1:08:21
Speaker 2: ratings at the beginning of the year were higher, and
1:08:23
Speaker 2: Tulane was expected to contend to win the conference in
1:08:26
Speaker 2: East Carolina and the second half, and I think after
1:08:30
Speaker 2: what we've seen right now, I think the teams are
1:08:32
Speaker 2: equivalent teams. I don't know if Tulaane is a home
1:08:34
Speaker 2: field advantage planned on there. They used to have to
1:08:36
Speaker 2: play in the super Dome. They don't do that anymore.
1:08:39
Speaker 2: They've got a campus, they think on the stadium. But
1:08:42
Speaker 2: anything else you want to give me, I want to
1:08:44
Speaker 2: hear any other reason I'm right. Do you have any
1:08:46
Speaker 2: other reason to think I'm right?
1:08:47
Speaker 3: Mike, No, I definitely agree with that side. I do
1:08:50
Speaker 3: if you look at Tulanes played a little bit tougher schedule.
1:08:53
Speaker 3: But if you look at just the statistics, and that
1:08:57
Speaker 3: can sometimes be misillading, but East Carolina's a top thirty
1:09:00
Speaker 3: offense and defense. Tulane ranks around seventieth offense and their
1:09:05
Speaker 3: defense is below one hundred, ranked one hundreds.
1:09:08
Speaker 2: I looked at both of those numbers. East Carolina also,
1:09:11
Speaker 2: even though they don't score a lot of points, they
1:09:13
Speaker 2: play at a high pace, and I know you talk
1:09:15
Speaker 2: about that whole pace factory and so on. They've got
1:09:18
Speaker 2: an innovative offensive guy. And as I say, the quarterback
1:09:21
Speaker 2: over there isn't bad, and Tulane's quarterback just u isn't
1:09:25
Speaker 2: any good at all. One other quick point, not to
1:09:28
Speaker 2: obsess on my game. East Carolina's off the by They
1:09:31
Speaker 2: played Army two weeks ago, Army always moves the ball
1:09:35
Speaker 2: because they've got that unique running game. They held Army
1:09:38
Speaker 2: to six points and Army's okay, Army beat Kansas State
1:09:41
Speaker 2: this year. They beat him twenty eight to six. I
1:09:43
Speaker 2: was just impressed by that game. That's a beatdown on
1:09:46
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball of a team in their
1:09:49
Speaker 2: conference and one that usually puts up a fair number
1:09:52
Speaker 2: of points. So I think East Carolina's defense can hold
1:09:55
Speaker 2: to lane and check. So that's my thought.
1:09:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't disagree with that, all right.
1:10:00
Speaker 2: Mike's website is ASA wins dot com. You can see
1:10:03
Speaker 2: what he and his partner Lee have going on, and
1:10:06
Speaker 2: they mentioned they have a special little come up. We're
1:10:08
Speaker 2: doing this on Thursday afternoon, a little bit later on,
1:10:11
Speaker 2: so check their website and see what's going on there
1:10:13
Speaker 2: ASA wins dot com. That's it for this weekend for
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Speaker 2: today's podcast. Back on Monday.
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