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All right, what's up, everyone? Welcome in to Inside the Hoosier
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Mind, brought to you in part by military broadcast radio,
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helping give veterans a voice, joined once again by Mike the
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Shy Kid. Mike, buddy, how are you, good
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Sir? I'm OK, man, I'm whoa, I just
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got a little blurry there, but I'm OK, I'm doing good.
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I know your camera's a little a little drunk there, buddy.
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Cameras had a little bit too much to eat.
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A little bit, a little. Bit a little bit before we get
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started I do want to give a quick shout out to the music
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world. We lost a great legend this
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morning. We lost legendary Black Sabbath
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frontman Ozzy Osbourne at the age of 76 due to Parkinson's.
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And it, it sucks because Ozzy Ozzy was kind of cool because if
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you look at like when he was born, he's born in 1949, you
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know, so he's born in England. He's born, you know, just before
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the 50s, right after World War Two.
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He grew up in like an interesting time, man, because
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that, that was right after the war.
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You had the whole, you know, World War Two generation.
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So he grew up in the 60's, the 70's, the 80s, nineties.
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And I feel like his music was just transcended all throughout.
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And then honestly, like look at his songs he did with like Post
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Malone and whatnot. Like Ozzy was doing everything
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he could to stay relevant. And honestly, he to me, he was
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doing it in in the right way as far as like he wasn't trying to
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go all out there. He wasn't trying to like rebrand
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himself. Ozzy was still just just doing
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Ozzy things all the way all the way up until the end.
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I thought I thought that was pretty awesome.
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I mean, oh man, grew up watching his reality TV show with Meet
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the Osbournes. Man, I mean, that was like, that
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was classic. I didn't have like a pet pig or
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something. Like it was crazy.
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I did get a chance to see Ozzy perform one time.
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I'm with Post Malone, which was like the coolest thing for me.
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And I was like, definitely like you understood, he's older now.
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So like it's not to the same degree of, you know, eating a
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bat on stage or doing the crazy things, you know, Ozzie and
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Mötley Crüe and, and everybody else used to do together.
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But definitely somebody I grew up with, definitely somebody on
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Guitar Hero who would just go fucking nuts as a kid.
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You're you're trying to play Black Sabbath songs or Crazy
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Train or like all these different things.
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So like definitely, definitely one of those ones that like I
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know for you tone, I don't know if you can relate.
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I don't know how your dad was, but like I remember my dad
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always listening to Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath and
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like, it kind of reminds me of my dad.
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And like it's kind of like one of those like, Dang, you know
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what I mean? Like kind of resonates to your
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childhood in a way. So I never had it with my, with
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my dad, 'cause he he passed away when I was really young and, and
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mom, mom listened to a lot of the like the Seventies, 80s and
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90s music. So I didn't, but she was never a
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huge fan of Ozzie, I don't think.
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Or if she was, I never listened to his music.
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Believe it or not, childhood wise, the old school Maddens and
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I'm gonna kind of date myself a little bit like Madden 2008,
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like crazy train being on there. You had Troy Palamalu and Larry
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Fitzgerald on the front. Like just play.
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Yeah, that that does remind me of my childhood because I'm
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like, I'm 13 at the time. I'm in middle school and light
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hand. Yeah, like you play that.
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And it was so nice because all the Maddens were like the exact
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same up until like 25 when they decided to like, do things a
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little bit different. So oh, you mean the first Madden
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25? Yeah, the first Madden. 25, not
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the second one. I know I was like what?
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Like what are y'all going to do when Madden 25 actually comes
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out there? Remember when we had those
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conversations like as kids and we were like, one day Madden 25
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is going to come out? Well, whatever Bo, it's like 20
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years from now and then oh shit. Like it's, it's here, bro.
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We're here like. Later like 20. 6 Now that's
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nuts. But but now, but let's let's
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jump into a little bit of sports.
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I know we're man, we're getting so close to the end of the
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offseason, buddy. I think technically the first
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preseason game, the Hall of Fame game, starts in like a week,
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like a week. A Hall of Fame.
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Game this year, brother. I think it's the Chargers and
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the Lions if I remember correct that.
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Sounds like Hendon Hooker is going to play.
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That's what I'm hearing. That's what I'm hearing, GBO.
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Maybe. Colby Orange.
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But, but Speaking of Tennessee, but not not the University of
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Tennessee, we'll put it that way, but the state of Tennessee,
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there's a little bit of interesting news come out of
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there. The Memphis Tigers, and I know
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you talked about it last show. I know obviously our boy Randy
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from Memphis, I don't know if he really rocks with Memphis like
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that, though. I know he's a, he's a, he's a Go
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big Orange fan. Yeah, I know.
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I know Jim fucks with Memphis. I know.
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I I think Jim's Jim's obviously ALSU fan, but he he attends
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Memphis games if I'm not mistaken.
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I, I think you're right, but a little bit of news out of them.
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So they actually put a bid to the Big 12 to try to join a
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power conference. They actually submitted to the
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Big 12 a bid worth $200 million to basically join in.
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And that was a part of not just joining them and paying for it,
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but essentially it would also mean that they would forfeit any
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media rights. And then they would also have
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the option, the Big 12 would of being able to kick Memphis out
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come 2030 to 2031. If they felt that the
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performance wasn't up to standards, they could basically
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get the boot out, but it would give Memphis a chance to be a
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part of a power conference. Now, this has actually been
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their third request apparently this decade that the Memphis
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Tigers have, you know, tried to join the Big 12.
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The Big 12, you know, obviously denied them.
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They actually got a invitation from the now PAC 12 to join
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those new that new crew in this pretty happily denied.
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I would too. Yeah, I'm like, no, you're,
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you're kind of better at the American.
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I'm good where I'm at. I'm good where I'm at.
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You're better where you're at than you are if you if you tried
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to do that to to gain a power status.
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So, and supposedly the, the, the table is still open for them to
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try to make an offer to join the ACC, which would be the other,
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the other power conference that's realistically left
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because they're not getting offers from the Big 10 or the,
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or the SEC by no means. But it's crazy because if you
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look at Memphis's overall, you know, school history at least as
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a football team. Now as a football team, I'm not,
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I'm not going to lie, they're not great.
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They are all time record. They're 543 wins, 538 losses, 33
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ties. So they're five games above 500.
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Like not great as far as football.
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Goes what I heard was above 500 that's.
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What they are they they are above 500.
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And let's be realistic too. They've produced some solid NFL
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players as far as football goes. You know, they they produced
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DeAngelo Williams, Steven Gakowski, the, you know,
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Patriots kicker for a long time, Isaac Bruce, you know, big Rams
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guy. Joy, I appreciate it.
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Happy Tuesday to you, Joy coming in again.
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Joy, Go Tigers 'cause we're talking about the Tigers, but
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not the LSU Tigers. Talking about Memphis Tigers at
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the moment, but but close OK Paxton Lynch, obviously the
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quarterback bust out of out of Denver.
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He he was in Memphis, but Jake Elliott, the kicker for the
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Bengals who ended up actually going to the Eagles.
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Now the Eagles great kicker came out of Memphis, Tony Pollard,
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Antonio Gibson and Kenneth Gainwell, all great players that
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have come out of Memphis as far as being able to produce pretty
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solid talent. But here's really the surprising
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part to me as far as the Big 12 denying them is, Brett, your
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mark kind of came out a few months ago and he had mentioned
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that they weren't just looking at football schools, they were
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potentially looking at basketball.
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And we know that because they had actually reached out to
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Gonzaga before Gonzaga decided to join the PAC 12, the Big 12
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had meetings with them. The Big 12 also had meetings
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with UConn to potentially meet with them.
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Now, obviously, Uconn's bad part is they don't.
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They do have a football team, but it's pretty awful and
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Gonzaga doesn't have a football team at all, so they were
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potentially looking at just expanding as far as basketball
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wise. Now Memphis basketball on the
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other hand, night and day difference from their football
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team. Hey 100% my bad, my bad.
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No, no, no, you're good all time.
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They are 1406 wins, 820 losses in one tie.
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Even even then, Tone, like, I just want to put this in
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perspective for all the people listening.
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If you're not a numbers guy, Tone, can you name me one of the
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best players in football, in the NFL, in the NFL, to come out of
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Memphis? To come out of Memphis.
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Come out of Memphis. Honestly, Isaac Bruce, probably.
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OK, Isaac Bruce. Not a bad name, not a bad name.
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But when we talk about football, you're looking at Derrick Rose,
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Penny Hardaway and say what you want about Jameis Wiseman, but
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the guy was a stud. Jalen Duran, like you've had.
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Yeah, for basketball. I'm sorry for basketball.
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They've had some Hall of Fame level players come out of this
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organization. You know, any Hardaway and
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Derrick Rose kind of being those top two names.
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But like what Derrick Rose was able to do with the Tigers way
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back when. Tone like it, like you said,
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it's night and day. From a recruitment standpoint, I
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really don't think you can get a serious five star level guy to
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go to Memphis. Yeah, but I will say too,
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though, I mean, you look at the Big 12 and and realistically, if
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you look at all the conferences, the Big 12 basketball wise,
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probably the best conference hands down.
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I mean, I know the Big 10 has some good teams.
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Obviously the SEC, they they were stacked this year.
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You know, you had Bama, you had Auburn, you had Florida, you
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know, Tennessee, all of them doing great this year just as
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far as basketball goes. But you look at the Big 12, you
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know, Baylor historically has been great the last few years.
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Kansas is almost always good. You know, Texas Tech is kind of
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backing up on the on the rise. You know, if you were to add
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Memphis into that, obviously they've got Houston in the Big
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12, Houston all the way to the national title this this year.
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So I mean, Big 12 is set as far as basketball.
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And I mean, just adding, adding one more team in there as far as
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iron, sharpening iron. I mean, I feel like it's kind of
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missed. And, and to me, it's weird
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because they, they essentially copied what SMU did for the ACC.
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You know, the SMU was like, hey, we want to join the ACC.
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We'll forfeit all of our media, right?
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You know, forfeit all the media rights for revenue and whatnot,
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just to be able to say that we're a part of this power
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conference and whatnot, just to have that status back.
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And it's weird that the Big 12 said no as far as doing it
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because again, you're, you're, you're getting nothing but
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positives out of this. As far as you're getting the
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money, you're not having to share your meteor rights money.
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Memphis gets at least the branding.
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And as far as the big name goes, that helps with their
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recruitment. And you know, again, they,
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they're giving them the option if we're not meeting what you
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want to sue in five to six years, you can kick us out, no
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harm, no foul. So I mean, I, I feel like it's
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kind of nuts that they're turning it down personally.
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I the last point I kind of wanted to make, because when you
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brought this up to my attention, I, I did kind of want to like
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actually contribute to a college football conversation on inside
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the who's your mind rather than just nod my head.
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But you know, I was kind of like looking at the numbers and let's
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not talk about the ACC for a second, but just LSU, you look
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at Death Valley 2020 three. I mean, you're, you're averaging
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77,000 people per game at a minimum.
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Pretty much. You know, they have a capacity
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to fill up 102,000 and some change amount amount of seats.
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You look at Notre Dame, which I, you know, I looked at all the
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ACC teams. That's kind of really the main
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one. I think you we can all agree
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from a football standpoint, Notre Dame right now, they can
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draw 77,000 fans or more. I I think for me, when you look
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at a place like Memphis, I was looking at the stats, the
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attendance in 2025 was the worst it has been in a very long time.
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There were a lot of games where they had less than 4000 fans in
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the entire arena. So tone like moving, I don't
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into a different conference, I think obviously brings more
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viewership, but from an attendance level, what do you
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think would change for that If they go to the ACC, do you think
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that brings more attendance to the game or do you think that's
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just a Memphis problem? You know, obviously Tennessee
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being the Big Brother there. It's kind of like Northwestern
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and and U of I, you know what I mean?
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People are going to go to U of I games.
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Everybody loves Urbana Champaign, but Northwestern
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Northwestern is just there. Yeah, I mean, well, the other
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thing, the other issue too, Memphis has to do with not only
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Tennessee, technically you have to deal with Vandy.
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I mean, even though Vandy is not a power school, I mean,
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academically they're they're a powerhouse because I mean,
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they're one of the one of the top schools as far as academics
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goes. And they're at least at minimum
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in the SECI don't know if necessarily it would potentially
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put more butts in seats. But again, I mean, at least Big
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12 wise, like you're not losing anything out of it because
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again, you're not you're not paying them anything.
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They're paying you. And you know, it's kind of one
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of those also like a like a business investment, you know,
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you have to spend money to make money.
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So, you know, maybe they do, you know, if you're able to make
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that argument of like, hey, basketball wise, if we can fill
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what, 12 to 14,000 stadium or you know, seat capacity
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basketball, you know, stadium, you know, if we can fill that
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and we have a good match up against Houston, who we used to
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play in. Now the what they call an
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American, you know, the American Conference, which we'll get into
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here in a bit. You know, they used to play
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Cincinnati, you know, they used to play Houston, UCF, you know,
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all these schools that came over from the AAC into the Big 12.
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So I mean, I think the potential's there.
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Like I said, for me there, there's really no harm for the
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Big 12 in doing it personally. I will say though, I think it's
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smart on Memphis because they recognize realistically out of
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the power conferences, you know, the Big 12 is probably going to
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be the best option you have and it's the safest option because
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out of the Big 12 and the ACC, when all said and done, all the
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dust settles when it's the Big 10 in the SEC left.
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I think the Big 12's going to be the the third conference and
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everybody else is pretty much going to get absorbed into them
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if you don't go into the Big 10 or the SEC.
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So I mean, to me, I feel like it's a safer, smarter option
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because if they go with the ACC route, I think honestly, I give
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it, I know the current meteorites deal expires in 2036.
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I give it like maybe five years because the Big 10 and the SEC
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both can actually renew their media deals and get another huge
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payout before the ACC is even considering it.
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I think once that happens and those exit fees drop a little
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bit, I think Clemson leaves, I think Florida State leaves, I
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think Miami leaves and I think North Carolina leaves and
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that'll be enough to potentially break up the ACC as a whole.
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Yeah, I'm rocking with it. I'm rocking with it.
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I think this is it's it's going to be kind of cool, man.
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I think college football 10 years from now is going to look
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a lot different than it did in just two years ago.
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Oh yeah. I mean, heck, it looks a lot
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different. What, 20 years ago when you had,
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when you still had Big East football, you know, when you had
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most everything was pretty geographical whatnot.
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And you know, now it's, yeah, now it's night and day
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different. Now it's like.
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Fraternities and like, weird. Yeah, it's fraternities.
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You've got all the West, you've got a bunch of West Coast
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schools in the Big 10. It was primarily, you know, the
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Midwestern Conference and whatnot.
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Not no more. But sticking with the conference
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that technically Memphis is still a part of the the American
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Athletic Conference. The AAC did a rebrand.
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They are now just the American Conference and their mascot is
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now an eagle. They've rebranded a little bit
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and I don't want to go too deep into this because there's,
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there's only so much you can talk about with that.
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But it it's interesting that this is a conference that
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essentially took over for the Big East to start with.
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You know, all the Big E schools went into the AAC.
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And of course, those schools have since either they merged
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into the eighth, most of them merged into the ACC, obviously
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West Virginia went into the Big 12 and then a few of them kind
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of got demoted to, you know, a group of five schools.
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And now they've had to work their way back up.
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But they've they've since rebranded in into this new
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entity. And we've kind of seen it as far
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as college football goes. And I know I know Mike, you're
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again, you're getting your feet wet as far as college football
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goes. But you know, you look at a lot
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of these, you look at the two biggest conferences, you look at
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the SEC and the Big 10, look at what they've managed to do with
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their branding. Like the SEC is absolutely huge
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with its branding and they're not even just including the
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teams that are in it. You know, obviously if you talk
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SEC, you immediately think of Bama, you think of Georgia, you
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think of LSU, you think of Florida, Tennessee, all of these
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massively big names that you know come associated with that.
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But the SEC itself as a brand is so well known.
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And then you look at the Big 10, the Big 10's the exact same way
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'cause you think the Big 10, you think Ohio State, Michigan, Penn
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State, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa, all these big
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schools. So now the American Conference,
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while again, probably not as popular, unless you're a fan of,
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you know, Memphis, Army, Navy, you know, some of these, some of
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these smaller schools as far as, you know, namings and whatnot.
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It it it does lead to interest. Do you think that for some of
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these conferences, especially like the ACC and the Big 12, the
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big twelves being a little bit better about it as far as
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pushing their branding out there, getting bigger, you know,
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bigger school brands and whatnot?
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Like I said, I think when the meteorites deals expire, because
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the Big 10 and SEC will be able to renew theirs long before the
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ACC will, I think not being able to push their brand like the ACC
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really isn't is going to be what causes the downfall.
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But do you think for the American conference kind of
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taking, I don't know how successful it's going to be, but
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they're taking proactive steps to do it.
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Do you think that's going to be something that could potentially
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keep them around? Because realistically, looking
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at the group of 6, you know, conferences that are out there
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right now, the American is honestly the the better of the
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conferences with the teams that you have in it currently.
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And I'll, I'll read those teams off after after you, after you
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give your thoughts because I got to look them up.
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I don't remember them all off the top of my head.
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Of course, of course. Well, in that case, I'll talk
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real slow. No, I'm playing.
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But I think, you know, at the end of the day, man, you have to
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try a little bit of everything. You know, I think guys are
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trying to, they're not guys, but just like teams in general are
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trying to do their best, their ability to try to catch up with
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what's new, what's hot. You know, how are we going to
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get everybody to start watching us?
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How are we going to get all eyes on us even though we don't have,
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you know, all the endorsements, all the funds, everything we
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need from these boosters? Yeah, that's a big part of it,
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man, is the boosters we always, we always talk about like how
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how many how many random ass alumni's who turned into multi
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billionaires are funding Ohio State right now?
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Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. The Ohio State University, you
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know. They trademarked the.
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I bet they did. I I blurry again that's what I
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get. They heard me talking shit.
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Now they're making my camera blurry.
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But no, man, I, I think, you know, you have to do everything
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you possibly can to get to, in order to stay on top, in order
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to stay in competition. You know what I mean?
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Like you got Target, who competes with Walmart, who
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competes with all these different places.
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And you know, I think everybody's always, and that's
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just from like a business standpoint, you know, everybody
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knows, everybody's got the same shit, everybody's doing the same
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shit. Everybody's slinging the same
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ball, the same pigskin, the same game, but at the end of the day,
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there's differences in level of fandom, there's differences in
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level of, you know, popularity and obviously just having
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different resources. And sometimes you have to do
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things out of nothing. You know what I mean?
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We're the famous movie Moneyball, man.
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Sometimes you just got to, you just got to work with what you
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got and you got to find a way to win.
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And, and I think for me, man, you know, I'm never going to
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hate on anybody for trying. I think if you're doing it the
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right way and, and you're trying to, you know, benefit everybody,
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then I can't be mad at it, You know what I mean?
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Because I'm in Chicago where the Chicago White Sox organization
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and the Chicago Bulls organization is ran by the same
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ownership who kind of just laid down after the 90s.
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They said, you know what, we got the Jordan era forever.
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You know, the White Sox won in 2005.
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We can ride that for another 20 years.
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You'll never guess what they celebrated this entire month.
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That's right, the 20 year anniversary, the worst record in
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baseball in 2024. But they were waiting for that
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20 year anniversary. But that's what I mean is, is
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the lack of effort by a lot of organizations and a lot of teams
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and a lot of schools for that matter.
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In this case, it, it definitely does rub you the wrong way.
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But if you're trying to make a difference, you're trying to
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actually be competitive and staying in that market of, of
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popularity. I, I mean, I dig it.
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I don't know if you do. Yeah, I mean, I do, I mean, I, I
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can't, I can't hate on them for again, at least at least making
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the effort and at least trying. And I mean, realistically, like
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I said, they're they're the better of the group of 6, you
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know, conferences 'cause I mean, you look at who they have.
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So here are some of their members, both football and non
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football. You have UAB, you have Eastern,
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you have East Carolina, you have FAU, who obviously they were,
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you know, real close to a national title not too long ago.
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You have Memphis, like we just talked about.
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You have Charlotte, you have North Texas, you have Rice, you
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have USF. So you have the Bulls, who
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again, 20 years ago they were a top program.
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You have Temple, you have UTSA, you have Tulane, who again, if
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I'm looking at teams that might potentially make the move to a
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power conference, Tulane and Memphis, just based off purely
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off of their performance and whatnot.
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Those are the two big schools as far as Big Fish left, other than
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Notre Dame, obviously, But I don't see Notre Dame doing it
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until you know, hell freezes over damn near you have Tulsa
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and then even though they don't have a football program anymore,
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you have Wichita State who pretty solid in basketball, also
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a part of it. So I mean, again, they try, they
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try. I know Joy, I know.
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So funny enough with Tulane being in Louisiana, I never, I
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never knew the rivalry is bad with Tulane and LSU.
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And then I looked and saw that Tulane was one of the original
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members of the SEC and then left, which in nuts to me, by
24:19
the way, they left Georgia Tech left, and then a school named
24:23
Swanee also left. But they're like Division Three
24:26
now. You know, they went on like a
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crazy run back in like the early 1800s.
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Wow. They beat like they beat like
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every school. They went like 12 and
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undefeated. I think they allowed like 10
24:37
points all season. Is is nuts.
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Witchcraft. It was witchcraft.
24:41
Everybody. Everybody got fired.
24:43
Got to be got to be. But yeah, it it is interesting
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that they that they decided to reran again.
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Don't know how well it's going to do, but we'll see.
24:50
Well. That's and that's the thing
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though, bro, at least you at least you get to see, you know
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what I mean? Like for some organizations,
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man, like you said, like Notre Dame is going to be the Fighting
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Irish till the day they find the, the end of the rainbow.
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Like that's just what it is at the end of the day.
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So to see change, bro, is is especially in college football
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is is really cool to me because we talk about like getting guys
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like me from Chicago to where, you know, hey, look, the Bears
25:13
are our life, you know, the Bulls through our life, but we
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really don't watch dot bears. Joy gets it.
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But you know, we really don't watch college sports for the
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most part. You know, there's Urbana fans
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ride deep, but that's all that's two hours away, brother.
25:28
Like, you know what I mean? Like we no one really watches
25:30
the Paul. Nobody really watches UIC and
25:33
that's just what it is. So to to see they're being
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changed. Hey, if UIC went out there and
25:37
said, hey, man, look, we really starting to care about care
25:40
about this program, We're going to make it more fun.
25:42
I would I would be down. I'd watch it.
25:44
You know what I mean? Like whatever, but there's no
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change is is all you need to know.
25:48
So haven't changed is a good thing I think.
25:50
Yeah, but we'll, we'll dive into our last topic though before
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before we end. It'll be a little bit of a short
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show today. Obviously the NFL last couple
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weeks has been releasing, all these teams have been releasing
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new alternate jerseys. Now that the new rule from the
26:05
NFL came out, you can have I think what 2 alternate jerseys
26:08
you can wear like 4 times and then obviously you can have a
26:11
second helmet. Now one of the big rules that
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people are finally taking advantage of and we've gotten
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some interesting looks so far from NFL team.
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So we started with the Commanders.
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They brought their white uniforms back from their time
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being the Redskins. Little earlier on, the Saints
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brought a new white helmet that looks absolutely fire.
26:30
But then they also released a gold jersey today.
26:33
Gold jerseys did not hit very well.
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Joy, I, I don't know if you're a Saints fan, you're going to tell
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me what you think of the gold jersey.
26:38
I'll be honest, I wanted the gold jersey to be a little bit
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darker, but we'll, we'll jump into that here in a second.
26:44
The Buccaneers released the white version of their
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Creamsicle uniforms, looking solid.
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The Chargers released a gold jersey of their own as well, as
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they brought back the Navy helmet for the Navy jerseys.
26:56
The Steelers unleashed awfulness, absolutely awfulness
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with whatever yellow crap they decided to release.
27:05
And the Bills are scheduled to bring their red helmet back for
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one game. And then tomorrow on the 23rd,
27:10
the Packers are supposed to unveil a new alternate uniform
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and helmet. And then sometime this month,
27:15
maybe even next month, the Browns are supposed to release a
27:18
new helmet and the Seahawks are supposed to release a new
27:20
uniform. But Mike, buddy, in your
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opinion, Oh, Joy hasn't seen the new Saints unis.
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Oh, don't worry, Jay, don't worry, Joy.
27:29
I'll I'll pull it up. Don't don't you worry, don't you
27:31
worry. But but Mike, in your opinion,
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you know, out of the teams that have that have released stuff,
27:38
if if you had to rank them as far as the best to the worst,
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how would you, how would how would you rank the new jerseys?
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Yeah, for sure. I'm going to go worst to best
27:47
for me. First honorable mention at #0
27:51
I'm going to put the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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It's not Bumblebee Big Ben bad, but it's bad.
27:56
You know what I mean? Like they did, they did the
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Bumblebee 1 not too long ago where everybody looked like, you
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know, they were fresh out of the, you know, the longest yard
28:02
prison team. Like it was horrible in the 2000
28:05
tens, but this one is is pretty bad as well.
28:08
I like the helmet. I just think that jersey looks
28:10
bad. But the worst one, the worst
28:14
uniform to be dropped hasn't even been dropped yet.
28:16
I haven't seen it, don't care to see it.
28:18
Tony can't even pull it up. The Green Bay Packers.
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Whatever load of crap they're dropping tomorrow is absolute
28:24
shit. I don't need to see it.
28:25
It's terrible and we will Fast forward this tomorrow and I will
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confirm that DA Bears Next up. I I really do think I'm going to
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put just like on here. I'm going to put the Saints.
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Sorry, joy, not really rocking with it.
28:39
I think the white helmet was super crisp, super clean.
28:43
But like you said, man, this just gives me like army Notre
28:47
Dame vibes. Not really feeling it too much.
28:49
Next one I'm going to go with the chargers.
28:52
I wasn't really feeling that too much.
28:53
If you've watched all American that it gives me Spencer James
28:56
goes to college vibes. Not really digging that too
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much. And then we're going to get in
29:01
the top ones. Man.
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I, I think I'm going to put the commanders kind of just at 3 for
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me. It's nothing crazy, but it's
29:09
nice. I, I like it.
29:10
It, it reminds me a lot of the, you know, I, I hate to even say
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his name, but it reminds me of the RG3 era and and the Sean
29:19
Taylor era. Love Sean Taylor, but you know,
29:21
it reminds me a lot of those guys we grew up loving.
29:23
Now, I did grow up an RG3 fan. Not going to talk about him in
29:26
present day. It has not translated since, but
29:30
it, it was, it does remind me of like our childhood #2 I'm going
29:34
to put the Buffalo Bills. It's not on here.
29:37
I know. But the, the red helmet you
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showed me earlier today that dropped.
29:41
Don't know if Josh Allen's going to be wearing it in week 17,
29:43
Week 18, but we'll have to see. It's the last week of the
29:46
season. Will they be playing?
29:47
Will they not? I think so.
29:48
Josh Allen played the last year of last year because of the MVP
29:51
race. So I I can totally see that
29:53
happening. Number one, I'm going with the
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I love it Baker being there,
29:59
Mike Evans, Godwin, I mean the dogs.
30:01
I mean, you're Bucky Irving. Bucky Irving, the best running
30:04
back in football in 2025, baby. I'm calling it right now.
30:08
You know, I'm I'm really excited about this team, man.
30:11
It's a fun team. They have some swag to them.
30:14
And I think this is just like this is very Baker, this is very
30:18
Tampa Bay. So I think it looks clean man,
30:20
but what about you? Yeah, I'm, I'm not going to
30:23
deviate too far. I think if I had to give a
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number one, I'm going to say Tampas, you know, the the white
30:27
creamsicle, that look looks absolutely solid.
30:30
And I I feel like with Tampa too, they they stayed with
30:33
history. They didn't try it.
30:34
They don't try to do too much as far as like steering away from
30:37
it. They stay true to like their
30:38
colors, their color schemes, they don't really try to mess
30:41
with it too much. And obviously they took
30:43
literally the 70s and we're like, we're plopping it right
30:45
back here just in like present day.
30:48
And, and so I think, I think obviously Tampa Bay's got to be
30:51
1-2. I'm, I'm going to roll with
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Washington. I feel like again, kind of the,
30:55
again, the old school feel. I know they had this jersey
30:59
literally like 5 no like 6 years ago.
31:02
Like, so it's not that different.
31:04
But again, they, they like cleaned it up.
31:06
It's better. All honesty, anything is better
31:09
than what Washington has right now.
31:10
Like all the Washington's uniforms are just crap right
31:13
now. So that they, they, they got to
31:15
go back to that or something like it.
31:17
Everything else is just rough. As far as three goes, yeah, I'll
31:23
I'll probably have to put the chargers at three.
31:25
I'm not super digging the gold. Like I know they'll probably do
31:28
gold with gold pants like it. I like the Navy.
31:31
I like the Navy, the Navy. 'Cause that's like their old
31:34
school San Diego like style. Like that's when I grew up
31:37
watching like. Philip Rivers.
31:40
Philip Rivers, Antonio Gates Lt. Like all of them like that was
31:43
solid. The yellow.
31:45
And for you man, does does yellow remind you of like a
31:47
college team? I know you watch a lot of
31:48
college ball. It kind of reminds you of like
31:50
AD 2D3 team that kind of just looking like a highlighter.
31:54
Kind of maybe. I mean, really what got me was
31:57
when they when they first broke out the the gold pants, I was
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like, they look like they peed themselves.
32:02
Like because it's like bright like they do they look like they
32:04
peed themselves. Yeah.
32:06
It's not working. Yeah, and then real quick, I'll,
32:10
I'll probably put the Saints at 4 again.
32:11
It's not bad. I feel like if they would have
32:13
gone a little bit of a darker gold like with their helmet, it
32:17
would have it would it'd have been fine.
32:18
Like like truly and honestly, it'd have been fine.
32:20
And then obviously the Steelers, Steelers are dead last that that
32:23
Jersey's awful. Like, I don't even know why they
32:25
tried that. That to me is up there with the
32:27
Bumblebee uniform. Like the Steelers are oh for two
32:30
as far as like, alternate throwback jerseys.
32:32
It it really does look and are you looking at the same picture
32:35
that I am for it? It's of oh man, it's not.
32:38
I have the picture of, I think the tight end Pat Pat Fryemouth
32:41
or however you say his name, bro.
32:43
He looks like Bumblebee from the Transformers, like it looks like
32:46
a a robotic jersey, like it just it looks bad, bro.
32:49
And I'm not thinking that. I don't know why.
32:52
If there's a history to that that I don't know about in the
32:54
Pittsburgh area, maybe, but I don't get it.
32:57
Yeah, I don't either. But Mike, buddy, I appreciate
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it. Appreciate everybody tuning in
33:01
and watching. I will, I will be back next
33:05
week. Mike will not.
33:06
Mike's going to be hopefully in vacation in Florida.
33:09
But appreciate you being here, buddy.
33:10
And we'll, I'll be back next week.
33:13
We'll talk a little bit of sports and whatnot and we'll see
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y'all later, ladies and gentlemen.
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Thanks.