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The Bloody Krasue - Caught on Camera! · Tales from Incredible Tales

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  Speaker 1: So she tried to wake up, wake wake her grandmother out,
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  Speaker 1: she wake up and the grandmother never wake up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when she lift up the pillow, right, the head was missing.
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  Speaker 2: My name is
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  Speaker 1: Pha.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Wayne. My
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  Speaker 2: name
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  Speaker 1: is Kyle, and this is Tales from Incredible Tales. Inspired
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  Speaker 1: by the classic Minor series, we explore different aspects of
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  Speaker 1: Southeast Asia's supernatural culture from supposedly haunted locations to creatures
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  Speaker 1: and spirits. Tonight we are talking about a spirit that
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  Speaker 1: will turn your stomach, so don't eat tofu.
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  Speaker 1: The krasul, a disembodied floating head with his internal organs
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  Speaker 1: attached and trailing along. This episode's topic is inspired by
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  Speaker 1: the original Incredibles episode, Devil's Apprentice. The krasu is an
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  Speaker 1: infamous Thai creature whose internal organs hang down from its neck.
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  Speaker 1: From dusk till dawn, the krasu lifts its body to
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  Speaker 1: search for fish and so-called dirty foods.
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  Speaker 1: Which legend has it refers to carry on and feces.
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  Speaker 1: While searching for food, it's entrails glow red or green.
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  Speaker 1: One very interesting thing to note is that the krasu
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  Speaker 1: usually flees when spotted by humans, which isn't to say
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  Speaker 1: that the krasu is harmless lah. When the krasu does
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  Speaker 1: go looking for victims, they are usually pregnant women and newborns,
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  Speaker 1: since it is said to be drawn to the blood
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  Speaker 1: from childbirth.
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  Speaker 1: When was the first time you heard about the krasu?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a Thai spirit, la, right? Uh, uh,
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  Speaker 1: through my mom who's Thai, uh, they said that this
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  Speaker 1: is something that's uh quite
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  Speaker 1: It's pervasive in their childhood. Like it's a, it's a
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  Speaker 1: thing that they always talk about in their childhood in
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  Speaker 1: their village, la. They say, uh, it's very similar to
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  Speaker 1: other Southeast Asian spirit like the Manananggao, the panangau, like
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  Speaker 1: the entry is all out, right? Like if I'm not wrong,
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  Speaker 1: the pananggao is if the blood drip on your clothes,
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  Speaker 1: you get cursed. I've never heard about it that's that's
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  Speaker 1: what I heard from, uh, my elders that they said,
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  Speaker 1: whereas this one is more for like if you meet
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  Speaker 1: this spirit, if you see it most probably will die.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, really, it's like a curse thing la. I don't know, like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: then yes, of course they go after, uh, pregnant women and, uh, newborns. So, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the common way to like protect yourself against them is
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  Speaker 1: iron and, uh, sharp objects. I think that is that
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  Speaker 1: there is one thing common about like because in Saba
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  Speaker 1: they call it balan balan, and then in Malay they
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  Speaker 1: call it panangal, right? And I think they have one
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  Speaker 1: thing in common which is.
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  Speaker 1: They, they feed on, you know, you know, those fetuses,
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  Speaker 1: babies in the stomach, especially for the first born child
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  Speaker 1: for the first, OK,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know
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  Speaker 1: it has to be first born, that's what I heard
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  Speaker 1: of the family lah. It's your first child. It's your
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  Speaker 1: first pregnancy. They prefer that because they, they say it's
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  Speaker 1: sweeter yeah
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  Speaker 2: yeah it's, it's nice to know that even like Hantu
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  Speaker 2: go for like the freshest foods
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  Speaker 1: maybe I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the villages that they tend to live, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 1: along the riverbanks. I mean the days even for the
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  Speaker 1: kampong now, uh, so a spirit that specifically, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: hunts for fish is quite unique in that sense, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think in Saba, right, correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: this is from what I've read, right, uh, in order
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  Speaker 1: for the, in order for them to deter this this
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  Speaker 1: Balan baran or this rassu, right, is they will place
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  Speaker 1: like a black cloth around their stomach, especially for pregnant
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  Speaker 1: womens they place this black cloth and then they smear like.
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  Speaker 1: I, I forget what it's called iodine, but, but it's
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  Speaker 1: something smelly. So, so, so for them to not smell the, the, the,
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  Speaker 1: the child durian that that is based on subjective. I
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  Speaker 1: like the smell of durian, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: same same.
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  Speaker 2: OK, you like, you don't like, it will hide the
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  Speaker 2: smell because all you will be smelling
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  Speaker 2: is durian,
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  Speaker 1: so that's what they did, I think for for Male Malie,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really sure actually. Nails,
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  Speaker 2: the usual
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  Speaker 2: defense as far as I'm concerned, the defense is run.
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  Speaker 2: So that that's the difference I know. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: anything about nails. I assume that it does play a
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  Speaker 2: part because if I'm not wrong, the Filipino version, the
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  Speaker 2: Maranangal nails is the way, yeah, iron and
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  Speaker 2: nails and you know
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  Speaker 1: like how some people.
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  Speaker 1: People say that it's usually like uh uh the face
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  Speaker 1: of a lady, then the intestine hang out. Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever heard that some may appear as red op looks
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  Speaker 1: even more creepy. So it's like just red or floating.
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  Speaker 1: So actually, uh, I went to Kampong Waan once, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and uh I did a TikTok live there for one
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  Speaker 1: hour right after I ended the TikTok life, right.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I'm not sure. OK, so there's this place that
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  Speaker 1: you can park your vehicle, right? So in front, right,
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  Speaker 1: in between, you know, the, the, the leaves and the,
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  Speaker 1: and the branches and whatnot, I saw this red or,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and at first I thought it was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, from the because in front there will be like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all those boats and all those big ships, right,
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  Speaker 1: so I thought that it was the light from the boat,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but it's like, it's like how, how do
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  Speaker 1: I say it's like like this, you know, like moving
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  Speaker 1: slowly like that flashlight, you know, I want to shine
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  Speaker 1: the light, it's gone already.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe I saw that and then
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  Speaker 1: like that particular area so like a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: say they they they throw, they they they left, they
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  Speaker 1: leave their spirits all their all their genes, they don't
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  Speaker 1: want anymore, then they leave it there. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: what I saw, but when I saw it, right, I
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  Speaker 1: had goosebumps, so I, I think, I think that's it la.
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  Speaker 2: I love how brave you are that you took out
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  Speaker 2: a flashlight.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you are just curious. It's not that I'm brave,
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  Speaker 1: it's just that I'm curious like.
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  Speaker 1: Is it true what I'm saying, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you want, you want to double check, but were you alone?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was with another friend, and this friend,
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  Speaker 1: I was lucky to be with him because he, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he daredevil basically you don't, you don't get scared with
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  Speaker 1: no fear.
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  Speaker 1: He told me before, like, uh, once he ever chase
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  Speaker 1: chase chase after the thing, you know, with a knife
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  Speaker 1: like uh I'm here you come chase after Panga. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: not Penangal, I think it was a lady in white
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  Speaker 1: or something. Oh my kaka, yeah, yeah, I'm not lying,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not lying. One day, one day I believe you,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just like why I don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know I don't.
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  Speaker 1: It's just that brave. You know, there's different breeds of people,
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  Speaker 2: right? I'm not sure whether I want to or don't
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  Speaker 2: want to meet your friend.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of, uh, sightings, right, actually, there, there have been
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  Speaker 1: many sightings obviously of Crassu, and a surprising number of them, right,
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  Speaker 1: actually took place in the last 25 years. So for example,
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  Speaker 1: in 2021, the residents of Samu Prakan.
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  Speaker 1: Actually claimed to have seen a Krasu in their province.
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  Speaker 1: A man named Pirapong Nim Cha Ron woke up at
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  Speaker 1: 100 p.m. on January 9, 2021 to the sight of
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  Speaker 1: a raso flying through his window.
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  Speaker 1: That's just, yeah, that's just crazy, lah, but he woke
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  Speaker 1: up with his mom and grabbed a flashlight, but the
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  Speaker 1: creature was already gone.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Nin Charoon actually supposedly saw it fly under his
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  Speaker 1: neighbor's house because, uh, Thai houses also like kampongs, so
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  Speaker 1: they usually have like a subfloor, where they can keep the, the,
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  Speaker 1: the chickens, yeah, uh, then Ninarron and his uncle wait
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  Speaker 1: all night for the krasu to come out, but it
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  Speaker 1: never reappeared. So the owner of the house also claimed
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  Speaker 1: to have seen the crustle in her basement.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, the neighbor la, so Ninarun and his neighbors tried
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  Speaker 1: to lure the crustle out, uh, on, on the next
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  Speaker 1: day with raw intestine and live chicken, but nothing ever
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  Speaker 1: emerged
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  Speaker 2: for research of this, right, like finding out that the
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  Speaker 2: krasu when it's spotted, will disappear, will, will, will flee humans, right?
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  Speaker 2: I thought that can't be true. Then I read his report.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I guess it is because like.
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  Speaker 2: They literally treat and can I just check your friend
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  Speaker 2: from your friend's Indonesian, right? He's not Thai, right? My friend,
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  Speaker 2: your friend, the one with the flashlight. He's big because
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  Speaker 2: this sounds like your friend also take flashlight and then
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  Speaker 2: go find the thing. He's a knife,
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  Speaker 1: not a flashlight. Oh my God,
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  Speaker 2: my mistake. I'm so sorry for downplaying your friend's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess they are skittish lah. They are
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  Speaker 1: a bit more scared of humans.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and, and, and, and you know what's
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  Speaker 1: the correct me if I'm wrong, but do you know
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  Speaker 1: what's the, the purpose of this panangal or krasu consumer consumer.
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  Speaker 1: So if I'm not wrong, correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: it's because of beauty. So usually like, um, it's usually
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  Speaker 1: the Ban of the kampong. So bean means, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you, when, when someone give birth, the, the person
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  Speaker 1: who
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  Speaker 1: What do you call that midwife. So back in the
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  Speaker 1: kampong days, right, uh, in Malay we call it Ban.
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  Speaker 1: So this Ban would, you know, would help, would be
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  Speaker 1: the midwife, right, and usually they are the ones who, who,
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  Speaker 1: who practice this panangal thing. I've read la. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure whether it's true or not, lah, but so this, uh,
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  Speaker 1: this sender, the person who sent me this story told
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  Speaker 1: me that when she was young she lived with her grandmother.
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  Speaker 1: So there's this one night.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, she woke up like in the middle of the night,
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  Speaker 1: so her grandmother sleep beside her, basically, right, but then the,
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  Speaker 1: the grandmother, right, she covered her face with pillow, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that at that night this lady wants
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  Speaker 1: to go to the toilet or something, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the kampong days, the toilet usually outside of the house, right?
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  Speaker 1: So she tried to wake up, wake wake her grandmother
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  Speaker 1: out she wake up and the grandmother never wake up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when she lift up the pillow, right, the
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  Speaker 1: head was missing.
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  Speaker 1: So apparently, apparently the, the grandmother practices this, this panangle, this, this, this, this, uh,
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  Speaker 1: in Malay we call it iulla, right? This is this
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  Speaker 1: thing like, so she, she, she was scared for her
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  Speaker 1: life she ran outside the house, right, her machi right,
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  Speaker 1: her auntie.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, is the neighbor also, so she ran outside of
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  Speaker 1: the house trying to run to the auntie's house to,
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  Speaker 1: to inform her, my grandmother, the neck gone, the head gone.
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  Speaker 1: So imagine this suddenly when she was running, right, and
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  Speaker 1: then it was kampong area, there's a lot of like bushes.
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  Speaker 1: When she was crossing over one of the bushes, she fell,
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  Speaker 1: she fell, and then she heard, she heard when she fell,
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  Speaker 1: she heard a grandmother voice, um, for example, her name
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  Speaker 1: is Annie, right? Annie, where are you going? You know,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. Oh, when she stood up, she turned around,
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  Speaker 1: she saw her grandmother, like nothing, nothing ever happened, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like the head is still attached, going to, are you OK?
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  Speaker 1: Like very creepy or like, are you OK? Come, come,
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  Speaker 1: come home, it's OK, don't need to tell your auntie,
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  Speaker 1: come home. And they went home, but then ever since
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  Speaker 1: that day.
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  Speaker 1: She knew, she knew that her grandmother, you know, she's
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  Speaker 1: hiding something like basically. So you're saying that this thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a it can be a witchcraft thing. Ah, witchcraft.
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  Speaker 1: That's the word I'm so they can like a human
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  Speaker 1: can actually practice it in and turn into a uh pananggao.
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  Speaker 1: That is from my understanding la for the viewers out there,
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  Speaker 1: you can correct me if I'm wrong. In interesting, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's quite so it's like what it's like orang
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  Speaker 1: Mina like that, you know yeah you practice then you
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  Speaker 1: can turn that but then the, the, the interesting.
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  Speaker 1: The thing is that they can turn back, yeah, yeah, yeah, so,
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  Speaker 1: so usually, right, that's why the, the grandmother covered her
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  Speaker 1: face with pillow so that the, the, the hou, the
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  Speaker 1: grandchild don't see her in that state la. Then once
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  Speaker 1: she flew around, she find maybe she find, uh, beside
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  Speaker 1: the kampong got one pregnant lady. She eat Eddie Makan, right,
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  Speaker 1: and she go back, go back, transform back into her body.
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  Speaker 1: Then it sounds ridiculous, but
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  Speaker 1: This is the fact. So, so I guess like it's
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  Speaker 1: maybe to prolong her life or make give her power
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  Speaker 1: la or something like that most likely or like sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's about beauty like Susu la, uh, yeah, but you
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  Speaker 1: don't eat people, but it's, it's basically like magic lah.
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  Speaker 1: So you have to, you have to do something, you
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  Speaker 1: have to consume something for you to maintain that wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's my call.
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  Speaker 2: No idea about that. I had no idea. I always
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: thought that Perangal or Krasu or everything were just.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not demons but
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  Speaker 2: like
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  Speaker 2: entities. I had no idea that it could be a
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  Speaker 2: black magic thing
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: I think every, I mean, in my opinion, la, right,
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  Speaker 1: I think every spirit has its purpose la. All this witchcraft,
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  Speaker 1: it has its own purpose, you get what I mean, but,
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  Speaker 1: but like, but like.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I'm, I'm wondering if there could be some correlation
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  Speaker 1: between Krasu, Pananggao and Manananggao because they all look visually identical, right?
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  Speaker 1: But Krasu is created.
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  Speaker 1: I guess by humans.
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  Speaker 1: The deceased la, whereas a panango can can be created, uh,
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  Speaker 1: using witchcraft, but I guess that's the defining line now
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  Speaker 1: where it's different at the end of the day they
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  Speaker 1: are long lost sisters la basically
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  Speaker 2: yeah cousins cousins cousins because panangal OK Marang I'm.
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  Speaker 2: I think visually it's slightly different from the other two.
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  Speaker 2: It's got the entrails and everything, but it's got wings
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I think Paanal and the
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  Speaker 2: krasu visually are more similar, but yeah, I, I, it
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  Speaker 2: might be for all we know, it might be both.
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  Speaker 2: It might be an an entity or it could be
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  Speaker 2: somebody practicing, uh, certain mystic arts that can transform like
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  Speaker 2: that as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: even your loved ones are the people that you trust
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  Speaker 1: the most.
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  Speaker 1: See you transform into a castle or Paanango is, is
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  Speaker 1: weird lah, right, and it will break the trust. What
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  Speaker 1: else are you hiding from me? You get what I mean? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's
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  Speaker 2: so
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  Speaker 1: creepy.
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  Speaker 2: Just, just look, there's only so much. There's only so
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  Speaker 2: close a family can get. If I found out that
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  Speaker 2: somebody I love was a pananga, I like
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  Speaker 1: to fly out, fly around at night, exactly
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  Speaker 2: like, look, OK, I'm sure you don't mean to hurt
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  Speaker 2: me or anything, but I don't take any offense to this,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it's time I moved out.
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  Speaker 2: I, I don't think we can be staying in the
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  Speaker 2: same house.
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  Speaker 1: In 2024, a 16 year old girl was snapping photos
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  Speaker 1: of the stars on her phone. When she caught an
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  Speaker 1: image of what looked like a woman. Her friends all
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  Speaker 1: seemed to agree that this was Akakrasu. The photo was
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  Speaker 1: shared on Facebook with a warning that locals should beware.
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  Speaker 1: The post really started to blow up when another resident,
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  Speaker 1: an older person, said that she saw a kakrasu floating
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  Speaker 1: by her face two years prior.
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  Speaker 1: An article that reported this incident features a very, very
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  Speaker 1: blurry photo. Do you think that this was real? What
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  Speaker 1: could be the logical reasons for this
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  Speaker 1: sighting?
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  Speaker 2: I've seen the photo for this and it's very blurry.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's super blurry, so you can't tell whether it's
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  Speaker 2: Even a woman, I, I, I guess they saw, it's
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  Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like pattern recognition where
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  Speaker 2: you see something and you, your mind automatically transforms it
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  Speaker 2: into something that's familiar to you, yeah, because I can
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  Speaker 2: see how they could see it's a woman, but it's,
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  Speaker 2: it's a very blurry photo. The fact that I think
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  Speaker 2: the fact that it was shared on social media and
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  Speaker 2: other people started going like, oh, I've seen this as well,
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  Speaker 2: like I.
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  Speaker 2: That's I don't know whether it helps to say that
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  Speaker 2: this might be a grass or it's just more people
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  Speaker 2: seeing what they want to see,
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  Speaker 1: and this is recent, right, 2024, so there's no excuse
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  Speaker 1: for blurry blurry image, right? Honestly, I mean like all
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  Speaker 1: our phones are, yeah, all have low light function dude,
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  Speaker 1: like I, I don't think there should be a blurry
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  Speaker 1: image of a ghost. Oh, just nice. Oh, if it's
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  Speaker 1: a 2000s, yes, in 2024, I think the image should
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  Speaker 1: be good.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and of course like it's very hard for me
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  Speaker 1: to believe that people would actually stop and then just
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  Speaker 1: take a photo of a ghost. I feel like it's
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: unless you are my friend, they don't take photo. They
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: don't chase. They aren't chase, yeah, but yeah, I, I,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I think the logical answer would be pattern recognition and
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: uh could be artifacts. Maybe they zoom the photo like crazy,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: maybe it's like super far, like 2500 m away, then
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: they zoom like crazy, so yeah.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Um, I will be more akin to believe the person
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: who said that she saw a rustle floating by her
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: face two years ago. Yeah, because, you know, like when
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: you see something, you, the first instinct is not I
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: take a photo. It's like, oh my God, then you run,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: then you go and tell someone. That's how the story
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: usually begin, right, yeah, as to take photo. So yeah,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the thing is I'm a believer of these things la.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: So obviously I would say that that's really, but then
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: for me to, if you ask me like if I
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: trust the image or not, right.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Um, oh, that one a bit, a bit hard, right, yeah, because,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: because like you said, it's 2024. I mean, she should
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: have like a
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: A good, you know, a good camera, you know, like
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: our smartphones nowadays are are very capable of taking low
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: light images.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: 16 year old girls, you would think that you have
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: a really good, really good camera
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: for unless, unless, like, like, like what Kyle said, la,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: you know, she, she zoomed in and then she said sometimes, but,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: but sometimes when people share this kind of things, it's
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: not that I'm trying to say she's she's lying or whatnot, right,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: but maybe it's just for attention, you know what I mean?
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: It could be, it could be. I mean, yeah, teenagers
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: what yeah.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, I have a question for you, like,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: because you, you do this almost on a daily basis,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: so you get a lot of messages. Do people send
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: you like go sightings, photos or that kind of thing?
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: They do, they do, they do, they do. Uh, I
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: actually have a few that I can, uh, share with
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: you later. Yeah, they do. But, but do you like
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: do you get creeped out when you see them as like,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: oh my God, and then you're alone and if I'm
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: being honest, right, uh, because I've been doing it for
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: almost a year, right, for a few months.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I read stories on a daily basis. So every now
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and then, you know, if, if people were to share
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: their ghost stories with me, I'll be like, oh, OK, yeah,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: because it's like most of the, most of most of
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: the ghosts I really hear about their stories, right, but
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: sometimes some of the pictures that they they screenshot or
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: they take they took and then they share it with me, right?
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it really looks.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: how to say, if, if once you have goosebumps means
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: means it's something, you get what I mean? So some
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of the photos that I saw, right, really have goosebumps, so.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: But, but, but at the end of the day, I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: just feel normal like, OK, it's just another photo, you
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? I don't know what about you
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: like after a while of you.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Do you still get creeped out when you see this
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: kind of photo? I'm not gonna lie, there are some
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: photos that are very traumatic for me. For example, uh,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: there's this photo, uh, it was, it was, it was
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: shared on social media, I think not, not too long
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: ago or very long ago.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: It's a photo of like a por chong with a
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: face and then the face is like very pale, very white,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: then got the black, black like panda eyes like that,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: then got the cotton butt inside the nose. That photos
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: really creeped me out until now. So there's this one
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: day when I was doing my work, right, uh, I
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: told the viewers, like, um, have you guys seen this photo?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Then I go and Google and I really got creeped out.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: For me, I think quite OK. Visual visuals are OK
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: for me because
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Uh, I mean, I, I, I create visuals for living, filmmaker,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: so I know how it's made, so I can actually
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: decipher whether it is real. Most of the time I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: would say 95% of the time it's fake. Uh, so
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: it doesn't affect me. What affects me are stories with
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: extreme details.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: So like, yeah, like for example a person tell me
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: a story, but uh at that point I heard like
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: like this clicking sound, and then I will register the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: clicking sound in my head. Then when I hear clicking, yeah,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I will visualize because the person is retelling. So that's
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the part where it gets to me, but most of
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the time I'm quite desensitized to it already. I'm sure you, you,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you are also like we are horrible people every time.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: We meet someone, they find a horrible. They start telling
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: you the ghost stories naturally then you're like, OK, you
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: roughly know what how it ends like usually la, yeah, uh, except,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: except for those that are very tragic then those really
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: for the tragic ones, then there's a different story. Yeah,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: that's different, yeah, yeah,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I'm, I'm kind of with Carl on this one. For
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: me it's, it's the things you don't see that frighten
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: me the most. So when I see the thing when
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I see like photos taken off a phone.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Uh, uh, blurry photos, there's almost that added level of
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be real like because it's a blurry photo,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: it's not a professionally short photo, like as if there's
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a modeling school for for Hantu like that, um, because
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be real, I find it less real
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: for some reason because I'm like, no, that, that, that,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that you obviously trying to make it look real. I, I, I,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: my mind cannot make a connection.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: When I see horror movies, even when I see horror movies,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it's not what I see on screen. It's
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: If this is creepy, then it gets my imagination going.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: It's not the actual movie itself. It's what happens after
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I leave the movie that really gets to me. OK.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: So for me, it's a lot of imagination because he's right,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: like when I, I'm the same as him in the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: sense when if you give enough details, right?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: If you give just the right amount of details to
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: get my imagination working, right, your story will have me
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: freaked out for weeks. In 2003, a man claimed to
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: have been visited by a rasu.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, around a month later, the police found a mask
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: that led them to believe that the man didn't see
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: a grass roof.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: He saw a thief trying to hide his identity.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: That, however, did not stop a nearby resort owner from
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: taking action and offering a 1 million baht reward for
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the capture of the grassroot.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: When rowdy teenagers on motorbikes and would-be ghost hunters all
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: looking to cash in, started disturbing neighbors, officials asked the
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: owner to cancel the reward.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: $1 million is $39,000.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: That's not a small amount.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: That's not a small That's a big that's quite a
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: big amount. Someone put out a bounty for close to $40,000.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: just to catch a ghost, you can call your friend.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I think your friend will succeed in catching the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: your
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: friend might come back with a gras one car one
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: cho or he be like bonus bonus. I know you
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: asked for one, but since I was in the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: area, I mean, I found them as well
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: as
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: well. Do I do I get additional bonus?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I, I like how it's like too specific group of people, right,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: like teenagers because we are stupid when we are younger,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: and ghost hunters, yeah.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Very specific people. Yeah, I, I think, I think it's,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things that that really got blew
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: out of proportion, like, you know, like urban legends that
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Uh, affect people because imagine like if you're staying in
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: like the kampong area and then like this whole group
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of teenagers just, yeah, I think the kampong got ghost
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: ah and they just keep going with motorbikes every night
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: or if I was staying there I'll be very annoyed
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah and like back then it's like 2 strokes bike,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you know, when when was
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: this um 2003,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: yeah, back then it was 22 strokes bike, so two
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: stroke bikes, so it's like way noisy like w w wing.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Some teenagers, right, then you were like ref ref.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I, I'm glad that the worst thing that happened is
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: noise complaints because like you look at the start of it,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: it was just a thief who was wearing a scary
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: mask and I saw the mask in in question for
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: this one. I was like.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I, I've seen what arasu is supposed to look like
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: according to illustrations. The mask looks nothing like arasu at all.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, anyhow just whack only one kind of entity
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: is like, oh rasu.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: But can you imagine if somebody actually tried to hurt
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: somebody else out there I'm like it's a good thing
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: it was just noise complaints because this could have gone
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: wrong so quickly.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: And what if it's really like true, you know, like
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the ras who is there out in the wild, you know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and one of the kids got hurt or something. Yeah,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: or even if the grass wasn't out there, even if
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: it wasn't a grassroot, it really was just some guy
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: with a mask. What if they thought they saw something
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and then they just like hit somebody else
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: shoot thing or what, yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: What if it was like they, they buy out the,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the whole, uh, stocks of chickens, the raw chickens to, to, to,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: to the, then they will have a shortage, ah, then
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: maybe it's kampong, right? Then they if kampong, they keep, uh,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: live chicken, they slaughter all the kampong got more chicken,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: then no more chickens in the kampong. That will be
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a problem
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: catastrophic.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Two things that you thought about in the story, right, was.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: How much is $1 million and economically speaking, if we
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: get rid of all the chickens, right, how would that affect, like,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: you know, the economy in this because he has
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a real, real life, uh, real life, yeah, real life
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: stock to this. So now we know that there's a benchmark.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: This guy obviously he said it's $40,000 to catch a
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: cru la. So far really financial guy,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the man is, is bless him, he is the perfect
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: balance of creative and business minded.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: This question is for everyone inspired by the 16 year
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: old girl who snapped a photo of the krasu.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: If you ever encountered one, would you try to take
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: a photo too?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Can I predict your answer? I'm going to predict that
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you will say yes because A, I'll make excellent content. B,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: if we had photographic proof of any kind of entity,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the sponsorship deals will be fantastic.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: He say I deal I sell.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: He made me sound out like I'm such a sellout.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: That's not a sellout. That's, but yes, I would take
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a photo of a rasu one.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: If I have a better camera, so that I will
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: prove to everyone who took photos of ghost that uh
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you can take high quality images of ghosts and then
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I can show to all the other ghosts that you
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: see this one I frame out a nice portrait, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I can print for you so if you want 40
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: megapixel worth of uh ghost photo, something like super super
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: high res one, right.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Uh, instead of your smartphone, I mean smartphones is OK, lah,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: but I, I don't think they're high resolution enough. Then if,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: if that camera managed to capture the rassu, that camera
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: got the eye already,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: right,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: because they say camera also can have third eye. Uh, yeah, yeah,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I would definitely take the, take a photo la Must
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: really depend on grassu, I think you can, yeah,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: see, that's a good point. My initial thought was no.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Uh, I'm not gonna take a photo just in case
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: it attracts attention, but you bring up a good point
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: because Krasu tends to flee people, right? So Krasu, OK, maybe.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: In this instance, I will try to take a photo.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: If I only have my handphone and you see my
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: photo quality, it's not great.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Chances are, right, I will take the photo. I will also,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: if for some reason Carl is in the same country.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I will message him and go, I've just spotted a grassu.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I've tried to take a photo. Can you bring your
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: camera down, see whether we can get a better photo
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: of this.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: So I, I will, I will do my best. I'll
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: send to you the photo. If you're like, can pass, uh, then, OK,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: if you like cannot pass now like, OK, I'm, I'm
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: over here. Come down, see what they can get a
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: better photo.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Joe.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: No, because I figured, look, if, if, if there's this
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: opportunity with an entity where you can prove its existence
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: and you're not so much in danger because I clearly
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: don't fall under the grassroots target audience.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Um, you say so, because I, I'm not a pregnant woman,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: so I think I'm reasonable. I'm not a pregnant woman,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: nor am I a newborn child. I think I'm reasonably safe, uh, yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: in this case, the, the, the risk to reward ratio
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: for me is like get.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So for probably the first time ever, Wayne takes the
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: stance of somewhat bravery and goes, yeah, OK, I'll give
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: it a shot. Why
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: not? If I'm alone, most likely not la. Most likely
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I will just run for my life. But if I'm
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: with friends, you know, if it's it's a crowded place,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: if I'm with that friend.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Uh, I will probably take a photo, la, right? I mean,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: it's for memory, you know, for memory. I see, I got,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I got to see rasu before, you know, what do
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: you know
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I like how it you say for memory, but now
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: it just sounds like bragging, right? Wait, I go see
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: cross
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: that with that friend, not if your friend chase it
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: off first, lah. Hey, don't know, don't tell him don't
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: chase first. Wait, wait,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: wait, wait,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: let me take then he
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: he just takes out the power. It's like, no, no, no,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: not yet, not yet.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is that time once again.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Can we have a morbid fact of the day? Whether
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you believe
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: in the spirit known as
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Krasu, there was a very real threat, uh, in the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: form of a malware that is also named after the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: spirit Krasu. that was attacking telco firms in Thailand for
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: nearly 2 years before it was detected.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: In 2023, so why, why, why is that? So, so
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the hacker had like a sense of humor,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: la, I, I guess so because it's specifically Thailand, yeah,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and it's deadly, right? So it's like a deadly malware, yeah,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: imagine you get a malware called Pontana.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know whether you want to laugh or you
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: want to be sad.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Now, OK, see, Pontana a bit difficult because, OK, you
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: tell me malware called rasu, right? Obviously you're gonna attack Thailand.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Chan are you're not gonna attack any other country, but
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: then if your malware is Pontana, right, then your malware
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: have to attack Singapore. Yeah,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: that's what,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: saying
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. So it's the equivalent to that, la.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Then there must be some, uh, uh, I'm not a
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: tech expert, la, but there must be some like technical
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: reason to it. Maybe the the the code was written.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: In a way whereby it's just a hits the code
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: is like that in that sense then you take the taco.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: You never know, might be true, right. Thank you to
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• 29:57
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