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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, December seventeenth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Cotton Bowl game against Missouri is in twelve days.
- 0:07The game against Michigan in three hundred and forty nine days. On yesterday's show,
- 0:10we brought in Mark Gifler to talk a bunch about recruiting, and then
- 0:13the plan for today's show was that we were going to be loosely focusing on
- 0:17the transfer portal, what Ohio Step might be looking to do there, some
- 0:20guys Ohio State has not gotten or has maybe passed on, and what that
- 0:24might tell us about the overall strategy for the buck Eyes this off season.
- 0:29And then right before we were about ready to hit record, some news broke
- 0:32and it is not necessarily great news for the buck Eyes. Mark Edward Houston,
- 0:38five star defensive end commit for the buck Eyes has been committed for quite
- 0:41a while. We here we are three days from signing day and Edward Houston
- 0:48is in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and he's not there necessarily just to eat Dreamland
- 0:51barbecue. Mark, how big of a concern is this? Yeah, it's
- 0:57a big concern. It's a high level of concern. This was a this
- 1:02is a last minute visit. You The problem with these visits is you can't
- 1:07really swing the momentum back that easily because you can't get them. You can't
- 1:11get them back on campus. You can't go in there and do the in
- 1:14home. That's all going to close off here in the next twenty four to
- 1:17thirty six hours, so you don't have this chance to sort of let a
- 1:22visit digest or or flip the momentum back your way. If you're losing momentum.
- 1:27Signing period is going to open up here in a few days, and
- 1:30that's going to be that, you know, the one silver lining here,
- 1:36as I was told that he did, let Ohio State knows was happening.
- 1:40So this wasn't a necessarily a sneak in and Ohio State finds out the way
- 1:44everyone else does on social media type of thing. But there's no question,
- 1:49I mean, it's this is the school that they probably battled the hardest for
- 1:53it to get Edric's commitment the first time around. So it's it's a concern
- 1:57for sure. And the Buckeye currently as of right now, including Eduardcution,
- 2:01have two defensive linemen in their class. It's just him and Eric Mensa,
- 2:07the three star who the buck Gys flipped from Virginia Tech this fall. So
- 2:10this is not a deep class. And we talked on yesterday show, but
- 2:14a couple of guys they could bring in still potentially to this class. But
- 2:20this is you know, you only took one Edge player last year, and
- 2:23you could you know, you've got guys on the roster you could end up
- 2:25moving there. But you know, this is this is one of those spots
- 2:29where they really can't afford to even take a small class, let alone.
- 2:35You know, theoretically, if he leaves, then you're down to zero current
- 2:38currently committed Edge guys. This, you know, in addition to the fact
- 2:43that he's a five star, the fact that he's a five star at Edge
- 2:46feels like that's a that's a I mean, make that only makes this a
- 2:51more concerning for the Buckeyes. I mean, I think he's the most important
- 2:54player in the class even more. Like we talked out in yesterday's show,
- 3:00we talked about losing Jordan Lyle, and you don't want to lose Jordan Lyle.
- 3:04He's a great running back. But you've got another great running back in
- 3:07James People's you've got Sam Williams Dixon in the class, You've got Ohio giving
- 3:12you possibly two and twenty five if you want to take those two, you
- 3:15can find running backs pretty easily. Like you know, if that happens,
- 3:20it happens type of thing. And even like someone like Jeremiah Smith, who's
- 3:23a generational talent. They bring in five star receivers every year. They've got
- 3:28another one in the class in Milon Graham, and they're not going to lose
- 3:30Jeremiah Smith. But just to kind of put this in a context of how
- 3:34big this would be with Edric Houston is I think he's their second best player
- 3:38they've got committed behind Jeremiah Smith. They obviously need defensive ends. Defensive end
- 3:42is a premium position. It's this, This is not good if this happens
- 3:47to them, this is really bad. If they lose Edric Houston. There's
- 3:51no way to sugar coat this one. Yeah. And in addition to the
- 3:53positional thing, you might see Alabama in the expanded College Football Playoff starting next
- 4:00season and beyond. You know, Tony Gerderman and I have talked about this
- 4:02on the Buckeye Weekly podcast a few times. When you lose a player to
- 4:06Miami. It's it's like they've sort of fallen into the springfield mystery spot and
- 4:11you never see them again unless you happen to be watching a you know,
- 4:15the three thirty ABC window when there's not another good game on and it's so,
- 4:18look, Wake Wake Forest in Miami. How about that? Are they
- 4:20going to go seven and five again this year? I don't know, maybe,
- 4:25but will they look? Will they have lots of uh, you know,
- 4:28smoke machine and all that stuff. Absolutely? Uh. And if you
- 4:30think we're being mean, well go back and look at the last twenty years
- 4:33of Miami football. Yeah, Alabama, though, you're gonna see those guys.
- 4:38You know, High State's gonna be watching some guys that they lost to
- 4:40Alabama playing in the Rose Bowl against Michigan in the playoff. So yeah,
- 4:45that that that is definitely a big concern for Ohio State. So with that,
- 4:49we're gonna we're gonna slide the recruiting to the side. Now we're going
- 4:53to talk about the topic we were planning to talk about in today's show,
- 4:56and that is the transfer portal and what's going on with the Buckeyes and the
- 4:59portal. We got to start Mark of course with the quarterback position. That's
- 5:02what that's all anyone wants to talk about. Pal McCord obviously in the portal
- 5:06not coming back, but what what you know, where do things stand now
- 5:11with the Buckeyes and maybe bringing in a quarterback? And while you're answering that
- 5:15question, also what do you think the answer to this question means about how
- 5:19they're managing their name, image and likeness, money, you know, sort
- 5:23of in terms of the class on the whole and existing players versus potentially new
- 5:29players. Yeah, right now it's looking more like they're going to pass on
- 5:34a portal quarterback in terms of bringing in a guy with the notion he's going
- 5:42to start or even be a strong competitor for the starting job. What I
- 5:46think is probably going to happen at this point is we may see I'll call
- 5:50it Chug four point zero at this point, because we had we had Chug
- 5:54hopeby So we're a Chug four point zero now I think at this point.
- 5:58And that's a depth body to fill out the room eventually, and who knows,
- 6:02with with are Nolan coming in early, maybe they just roll with three
- 6:05all the way through the spring. Let the kind of drive the competition there,
- 6:11but it just doesn't look like they're going to make that all in move
- 6:14on any of the portal guys. They kick the tires on cam Ward.
- 6:16Doesn't look like anything's any strong push has been made there. You know,
- 6:20Riley Leonard was always going to Notre Dame. They they haven't really done anything
- 6:26with Will Howard, who would be a guy of interest, and so all
- 6:30we can gather at this point is that they're just not gonna make that type
- 6:32of push. And you know, yeah, there's there's some This is this
- 6:36is more than just these are complicated decisions. This is not we've talked about
- 6:40this on the on the site you know this week is this isn't just pay
- 6:44do we want a portal quarterback? It's do we want to pay two million
- 6:47dollars for a portal quarterback? Because that's the going rate is between one and
- 6:51a half and two and a half million dollars. That's what if you want
- 6:54to get Malik Murphy, if you want to get Will Howard, if you
- 6:58want to get Riley len if you want to get these guys, that's you're
- 7:00gonna have to come with an nil package in that vicinity. And so for
- 7:08an Ohio State team that again, I can roll your eyes at this if
- 7:12you want. They like their quarterback room, they would have. They wanted
- 7:14McCord back, they wanted they wanted this to play out, they wanted another
- 7:17competition this offseason. They liked the talent in their room. And so if
- 7:20you're a high state you look at this and say, well, you know,
- 7:24if we've got two million dollars, do we throw that at a portal
- 7:26quarterback and then God forbidd he comes in. He's not better than what you
- 7:29have anyway, Uh, you know, Devin Brown beats him out or Lincoln
- 7:31Keenholtz beats him out, and you just paid two million dollars for a wasted
- 7:38roster spot. Or do we take, you know, two million dollars and
- 7:40do we try to entice some of these fourth year players to come back instead
- 7:45of leaving early for the NFL and kind of shore up some other areas of
- 7:46the roster. And that's what it looks like they're doing right now to me.
- 7:51Well, one of the other places on the roster they might be interested
- 7:54in shoring up is the offensive line. They the line was not good at
- 7:58the beginning of the year and kind of Okay Ish decent at the end of
- 8:01the year. And they had some success in the portal last year and some
- 8:05not success bringing in Josh Simmons, who is the starting left tackle this year,
- 8:09who improved quite a bit during the course of the season and ended up
- 8:13the year looking pretty solid over there on left side and has another year and
- 8:18we'll be back next year and potentially anchoring that left tackle spot again. And
- 8:20they also went into the portal and tried to get bring in Vic Cutler and
- 8:24that just didn't work out and he never got you never really made a push
- 8:28for that starting center job behind Carson Hinzman. This year. There were three
- 8:31names we've been talking about quite a bit and the offensive line. Two of
- 8:33them are Ohio natives, Carter Smith and Zeke Carrell. Neither of them are
- 8:39going to end up with Ohio State. Carell ended up going to North Carolina
- 8:41State. Carter Smith ended up walking into the portal and then doing the Homer
- 8:46Simpson walking in and in and out of the bordello gift and no, sorry,
- 8:52Grandpa Simpson, Sorry sorry sorry? Uh how did I scrup a Simpsons
- 8:56reference? I was thinking Homer in the bush. It doesn't anyway, he's
- 9:01never going to forgive you. I hope Tony doesn't hear this anyway. Carter
- 9:05Smith back back with Indiana. So that leaves one other name that's definitely someone
- 9:09who Buckeye recruiting heads will remember. Chase basantis who is someone that they looked
- 9:15at very seriously and we're making making a pretty serious runout at a high school.
- 9:18He went to Texas A and M. He is now in the portal.
- 9:20Is Chase basantis a legitimate you know, does he have a decent chance
- 9:24of ending up a Buckeye when all is said and done. They're they're trying,
- 9:28you got to get that. You gotta have that official visit, and
- 9:31that's what they're working on hammering out right now. It's going to be a
- 9:35pretty intense competition for him. I do think he's going to stay north,
- 9:41closer to home. Not necessarily, he doesn't have to go to like Rutgers,
- 9:43doesn't go right down the street necessarily. But you know, Penn State's
- 9:46a school that I've heard a lot as far as the school that Ohio State
- 9:48thinks is pretty serious with Chase basantis. So right now, I think Penn
- 9:54State or Ohio State would probably be my kind of two favorites. If Ohio
- 9:58State can get him on campus. They're optimistic that's going to happen, but
- 10:01it hasn't happened yet as of this reporting. So we'll see if they can
- 10:05get something set up here in the next few days, at least get something
- 10:09on the calendar here as we head toward Christmas. That's not you know,
- 10:11so this is gonna be something they get the guy get done here pretty quickly.
- 10:16But you know that's the guy they've pushed for. You know, they
- 10:18kicked the tires on Correl a little bit, They didn't really do much with
- 10:22that. They kicked the tires a little harder on Cardiff Smith, but they
- 10:26didn't really go full full bar there either. But they are very much in
- 10:31the chase besant to sweepstakes. Well, we will see how that sweep steak
- 10:33shakes out. That covers the offensive side of the ball, the defensive side
- 10:37of the ball. We get three names here, three names at the three
- 10:41different levels of the defense. And I'll just run through the three names and
- 10:45the and you know the guys who they're taking a look at, and you
- 10:48can tell me if you think any of them are you know, real serious,
- 10:52seriously likely to end up as Buckeyes this offseason. UCLA safety Kamuri Ramsey,
- 10:56cal linebacker Caleb elam's Or and Michigan State defensive tackle Derek Harmon. Those
- 11:01are all people that they have, you know, there's been some mutual interest
- 11:03there. Any of them that you think end up you know, are maybe
- 11:07the most likely to end up as buck Eyes. Yeah, I think if
- 11:11I do, I'll just rank this. I think elam's Or is probably the
- 11:16most likely. Now. Elam's Or and Ramsey are both on their official visits
- 11:22kind of as we speak right now, but kind of coming into the weekend,
- 11:26I've got elams Or as the most likely of those three. They've wanted
- 11:28a veteran linebacker. This seems to be their top guy that looks like they're
- 11:33making a legitimate push there coming from cal So. I think this has a
- 11:39good chance of kind of coming together. We'll see what he says coming out
- 11:43of the visit this weekend. But that's one that immediately jumps out to me
- 11:46as a guy that can get the Kamario Ramsey one is interesting too. I
- 11:50probably have him second. Again, they're gonna need safeties and this isn't so
- 11:54much they have to get a starting safety as much as they got to one
- 11:58protect against Layth and Ransom going pro. And two, even if Leaythan Ransom
- 12:03doesn't go pro, you've lost several bodies to the portal. So you'd really
- 12:05like to have another body in there that can not just be a warm body
- 12:09on the depth chart, but that can actually drive competition and push for for
- 12:11playing time next year. And Ramsey would fit that bill. And he was
- 12:16very interested in Ohio State coming out of high school. And I just you
- 12:18know, I think Matt Barnes didn't exactly do his best work on that one
- 12:24and and sort of maybe didn't make him feel as loved as some of their
- 12:28other safety targets at the time, and so you know, ended up ended
- 12:31up out West. And but this is a kid who I think very much
- 12:35would like to come to Ohio State, and so I think that's one that's
- 12:37very possible as well. Harmon. I think that there's a chance there,
- 12:41But I don't think they're selling quite the same situation to Harmon, who who
- 12:48you know, as as they are maybe to these other guys where they really
- 12:50need bodies or they need a body. I think defend the interior of the
- 12:52defensive line. There's there's some good buzz right now that they could get at
- 12:56least one of those two guys back, between Michael and Tyler Williams, and
- 12:58that they're trying to get them both back, So that may be a more
- 13:01you know, if they've got them on campus last this past week, but
- 13:05that may be more of a wait and see how the NFL draft decisions shake
- 13:09out. Well, we will be waiting to see how those NFL draft decisions
- 13:13shake out, how the potential Bowl opt out decisions shake out. Still several
- 13:18big names that we have not heard one way or the other on, so
- 13:22we'll be tracking that over the coming week, tracking the NFL draft decisions,
- 13:26tracking the recruiting and the early signing day, and boy it is it is
- 13:31almost here. Quite a quite an eventful week ahead and the transfer portal and
- 13:35oh yes, by the way, the bowl game coming up in less than
- 13:39two weeks, the Cotton Bowl against Missouri. Lots of stuff going on,
- 13:43lots of interesting insight and intel and analysis at buckey huddle dot com, our
- 13:48whole team of insiders working hard to bring you the absolute latest on all of
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- 13:54and of course at YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Huddle. We post pretty much
- 14:00constant, a constant stream of podcasts. We're not quite a twenty four hour
- 14:03news network, but we're getting We're getting closer and closer every week, it
- 14:05seems. Lots of lots of insight, lots of analysis shows, all sorts
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- 14:22That will do it for today. Thank you guys all for joining us.
- 14:24Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.