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City Girls with Whitney Fransway · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. I'm here
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  Speaker 2: at the Whitney Fransleigh, and I'm so excited to get
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  Speaker 2: chatting with her because she and I are both Bachelor
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  Speaker 2: alum that are now Bravo. I don't go say stars.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what we call each other. We're not
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  Speaker 2: like contestants anymore. We're just we're on a show.
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  Speaker 3: We're part of the Bravo family.
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  Speaker 2: Now part of the Bravo family. That's right, Yeah, Bravo Labs,
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  Speaker 2: that's what it is. So Whitney, first, let's go like
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  Speaker 2: revisit where we know you from originally, which is next
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  Speaker 2: season of the Bachelor, and then you created a great
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  Speaker 2: crew of girls from that season.
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  Speaker 4: And then did you do Paradise?
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  Speaker 3: For a hot minute, I feel like I don't really
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  Speaker 3: count it. I made an appearance on Paradise.
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  Speaker 4: But every guy wanted you there, so how is it
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  Speaker 4: just an appearance?
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  Speaker 3: I had a weird situation where uh Connor was somebody
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  Speaker 3: who I was interested in and he ended up taking
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  Speaker 3: myself out early, and there was like this whole little
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  Speaker 3: like cat and mouse game of us, like finally meeting
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  Speaker 3: up after he left Paradise. So I walked down to
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  Speaker 3: the beach and he wasn't there, and then we kind
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  Speaker 3: of connected after that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so the Dean and Kylen mess of it all
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  Speaker 4: kind of delayed your entrance perhaps, Yeah, I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Like there was a lot happening, So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I guess like I was on Paradise, but I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I wasn't. That makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: And who are you close to in the franchise? Still?
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  Speaker 3: I'm still really close to Rachel Lindsay and Christina Shulman,
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  Speaker 3: like a Lexus Waters, that kind of group of girls.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the same with your season. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like we both had really tight knit girl gangs that
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  Speaker 3: like came out of our seasons.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I think of the other like girl gang,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's yours. Have you kept in touch
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  Speaker 2: with Nick at all?
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  Speaker 4: Have you done his podcast yet?
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  Speaker 3: I have not done his podcast. We didn't keep in touch.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like we, you know, bumped into each other
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  Speaker 3: a little bit after, but nothing crazy where we like
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  Speaker 3: really stayed in touch after the show.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so your boyfriend gets you've been dating him for
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  Speaker 2: how long now?
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  Speaker 4: Because when did you film in the city.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we filmed in the city in the fall, and
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  Speaker 3: we've been dating since the fall before that. That's like
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  Speaker 3: when we started kind of like going on our first dates.
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  Speaker 3: Uh So it's been like, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Over a year and a half, two years, Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So when when you started dating Kenny, did you know
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  Speaker 2: that he was involved with the Summerhouse crew, Because just
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  Speaker 2: for our audience out there, like in the City is
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  Speaker 2: the spin off to Summerhouse, So it's basically like they
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  Speaker 2: go and do Summer in the Hampton's and then in
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  Speaker 2: the fall, you guys are going to be filming in
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  Speaker 2: the city, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I So one of Penny's best friends, Gavin, is on
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  Speaker 3: the show, and I didn't know that he was like
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  Speaker 3: so integrated and kind of knew like Lindsey and Kyle
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  Speaker 3: and was an investor and lover boy. I obviously like
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  Speaker 3: started to get to know that as this conversation came up.
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  Speaker 3: But I wasn't really sure about doing the show at first,
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  Speaker 3: you know, having done TV before, I just wasn't really
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  Speaker 3: sure if it was in like the cards for me.
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  Speaker 3: But it's honestly been a really fun process so far.
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  Speaker 4: Did they ask him first yes to be on the show,
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  Speaker 4: and then when did they start to be interested in
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  Speaker 4: having you on with them?
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  Speaker 3: It was pretty much at the same time. At the beginning,
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  Speaker 3: it was well because the show is so different than
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  Speaker 3: Summer House, right, It's it's about couples in there and
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  Speaker 3: like some singles in closer to their forty and in
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  Speaker 3: their early forties, navigating relationship and in the city and friendship,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, it's not really as much of a
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  Speaker 3: like a party show as Summer House. So with it
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  Speaker 3: being focused on relationships, it was kind of like a
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  Speaker 3: package deal.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, gotcha.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your initial take? Were you like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm down or were you a little hesitant because Dared
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  Speaker 2: and I were a bit hesitant going over to Bravo,
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  Speaker 2: which just definitely feels like they're after drama more, whereas
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  Speaker 2: we came from a show where, yeah, drama is definitely
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  Speaker 2: a part of it, but like love is number one totally.
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  Speaker 3: Like on The Bachelor, you're in a bubble. You're not
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  Speaker 3: in reality. You're like you don't have your phone, like
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  Speaker 3: you're so much in this like love bubble talking about
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  Speaker 3: relationships like this exactly like your show. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: like you have to open up like your whole life,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like are you willing to do that? And
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  Speaker 3: like do you think you can do that? Because if
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to, it's not going to benefit the show,
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  Speaker 3: it's not gonna benefit you, it's not going to benefit anybody.
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  Speaker 3: So I just wasn't really sure. I'm like, do I
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  Speaker 3: want to let people in that much in my life
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  Speaker 3: and really put everything out there? And I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like relationships on reality TV, that can also be a
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  Speaker 3: little scary. But I just felt like ultimately, Kenny and
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  Speaker 3: I had a lot of good conversations about it, and
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  Speaker 3: we have really good communication with each other, and it
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  Speaker 3: just felt like, you know what, why not, like we're
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  Speaker 3: on the same page and they kind of after talking
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  Speaker 3: to the producers and like the casting directors and the
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  Speaker 3: exacts about the show and what it was, they were
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  Speaker 3: really reassuring that they want us to be portrayed as ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: So it made me feel a little bit more comfortable
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep thanking the producers because I was super
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  Speaker 2: skeptical last summer about how they would make me look.
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  Speaker 2: You know, coming from Bachelor, where you know you live
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  Speaker 2: it and then you see such a small portion of
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  Speaker 2: what you lived on TV, and you're like.
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  Speaker 4: I did that.
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  Speaker 2: I always say that Bachelor was kind of like a
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  Speaker 2: caricature of me, and I loved the caricature was wonderful
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  Speaker 2: and like I had fun with it. But I was
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  Speaker 2: also just going into Housewives thinking, you know, how am
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  Speaker 2: I going to look like myself? Right?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know what, I look like myself?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you very much. I'm surprised.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like they do. They do a great job,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously there are like there's so much more that
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  Speaker 3: they don't. They don't have time for everything, right, and
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  Speaker 3: like so much that I'm sure that happened when you
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  Speaker 3: film two of you just can't show everything. But I
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  Speaker 3: do have to say I did pull an Ashley eye
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  Speaker 3: and I cry multiple times this episode this week.
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  Speaker 2: This week, this is episode three, which nice is like
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  Speaker 2: you and I are. Now we get to see our
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  Speaker 2: episode a couple of days before it airs. Well, I'll
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  Speaker 2: ask you about your episode in a little bit. Okay, First,
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  Speaker 2: I want to know if you we watched Summer House.
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  Speaker 2: Did you watch his Friends on there?
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  Speaker 3: So I had seen a little bit of Summerhouse here
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  Speaker 3: and there. I feel like I kind of started watching
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  Speaker 3: the last couples like seasons of Summerhouse, but kind of
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  Speaker 3: like not super intentionally, right, Like Summerhouse is kind of
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  Speaker 3: one of those shows you can have other things done
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  Speaker 3: at the same time and be doing things. So I
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  Speaker 3: had definitely seen the show before and understood some of
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  Speaker 3: the dynamics that it was walking into.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well dynamics. Lindsay Hubbard is obviously a huge star
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  Speaker 2: from Bravo for the past like ten years and definitely
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  Speaker 2: one of the figureheads in this series, and she seems
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  Speaker 2: to write off the bat have a problem with you
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  Speaker 2: and Kenny moving in so quickly, But it's not like
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  Speaker 2: we know that they've had like this strong friendship. So
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  Speaker 2: how did that feel to have somebody that is very popular.
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  Speaker 4: Take issue with your situation quickly?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I would say that her and Kenny like
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  Speaker 3: have been acquaintances. It's not like they were like best
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  Speaker 3: friends going into the show or anything by means, and
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  Speaker 3: me walking into these this new group of people who
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  Speaker 3: have established relationships and all this history definitely intimidating. So
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I was really just kind of taking in,
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  Speaker 3: like what was going on. You can go almost kind
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  Speaker 3: of see on my face. I'm like, okay, like wait, what,
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  Speaker 3: like where is this coming from? Like is this like
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  Speaker 3: her trying to be a girl's girl?
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  Speaker 1: Is this?
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  Speaker 3: And then like the more like it's it's unfolding. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: if you were a girl's girl, you would just kind
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  Speaker 3: of pull me aside and ask me questions. Like I
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  Speaker 3: barely have had a conversation with her at this point,
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  Speaker 3: and she's kind of like questioning with It feels like judgment,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like some kind of like interrogation versus being like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, like having my best interest in pulling
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  Speaker 3: me aside.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like did you wonder why she was so opinionated
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  Speaker 2: about you guys moving together without a ring? I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it's kind of common.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's common. Obviously it was a
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  Speaker 3: huge move, right Like I moved across the country for love,
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  Speaker 3: so a little bit more on the line. It felt
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  Speaker 3: like a little bit of a scarier move for me.
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  Speaker 3: But she Yeah, I'm just like I obviously know a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of her story at this point, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: like this feels like a little bit of projection. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we're all like a little bit jaded by her own life. Experiences,
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  Speaker 3: and so I'm like, is she just like projecting her
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  Speaker 3: own thing. It's just like coming off really harsh though.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm, yeah, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So you in this upcoming episode kind of have a
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  Speaker 2: moment with her and with the big the group, and
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  Speaker 2: you're hoping that this hang is going to get you
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  Speaker 2: closer to them, but it feels like it's just making
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  Speaker 2: you emotional and you feel like you kind of have
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  Speaker 2: a targ the target.
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  Speaker 3: Don't necessarily feel like I have a target, but honestly,
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  Speaker 3: like he has a strong personality and Lindsay has a
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  Speaker 3: strong personality, so they're like starting off butting heads and
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  Speaker 3: then you know, I'm kind of like, oh, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: used to this kind of like intense dynamic plus like
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  Speaker 3: intense personality.
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  Speaker 2: You and I are basically in the exact same situation
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  Speaker 2: on different Bravo shows.
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  Speaker 4: Because we are the new ones in the group.
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  Speaker 2: And then we just don't know how to deal with
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  Speaker 2: these personalities outside of crying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we can so so relate because it's
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  Speaker 3: like we're stepping into like these these groups of friends
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  Speaker 3: that have history and have known each other, so it's
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  Speaker 3: like you're kind of trying to learn your place and
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  Speaker 3: like see who you get along with and like understand
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  Speaker 3: everyone and like really like feel all dynamics in person,
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  Speaker 3: but like especially in your thirties, like it's weird trying
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  Speaker 3: to make new friends, right, And I was going through
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  Speaker 3: this like transitionary time too, with like you know, uh,
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  Speaker 3: starting a company, like moving across like the country and
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  Speaker 3: like inf like doing this situation and like trying to
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  Speaker 3: make friends. So I feel like everything was really heightened,
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  Speaker 3: which I'm sure you can relate to, where just so
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  Speaker 3: much going on and I just felt like really fragile
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  Speaker 3: about so much new transition and like miss in my life.
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  Speaker 3: So I feel like when there's all these dynamics of
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  Speaker 3: like people fighting and like not being a smooth entrance
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  Speaker 3: to the friend group, it's just a little overwhelming.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, I feel you more than I feel like
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  Speaker 2: anyone can please, like, can text me anytime you're filming.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure this will be getting in another season because
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  Speaker 2: people like love you know members of your cast so well.
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  Speaker 2: Now I I don't know, like New York or LA
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  Speaker 2: after the big move and you've been there for.
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  Speaker 4: Almost a year, how are you? How are you simulating?
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  Speaker 3: I honestly love it I feel like it's so fun
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  Speaker 3: to be in the city and be out and about.
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  Speaker 3: There's so much more happening, and like it's super motivating
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  Speaker 3: and inspiring here. You know, you can kind of be
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  Speaker 3: in your own little bubble in LA. So I think
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  Speaker 3: it's really good to even though it's scary and the
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  Speaker 3: transition is scary, Like, it's good to put yourself in
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of an uncomfortable situation to grow. Look like,
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  Speaker 3: my friends in LA are still there, they're still my
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  Speaker 3: best friends, but it's good to kind of make yourself
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  Speaker 3: a little uncomfortable to grow. So that's where I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I'm kind of in this like blooming like stage
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  Speaker 3: right now, still in New York.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good when you are out with the group and
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  Speaker 2: they are, you know, making all these comments about Kenny
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  Speaker 2: and your relationship, Did any of this make you feel
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  Speaker 2: any trepidation about the situation you put yourself in As.
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  Speaker 3: Far as like your relationship my relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I would say more of like your relationship. Were you
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  Speaker 2: like getting any weworry that red flags are popping up?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think at this point, like Kenny and
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  Speaker 3: I have kind of talked about most things and kind
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  Speaker 3: of had an untraditional start to our relationship, and you'll
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  Speaker 3: kind of see a little bit more of that unfold
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  Speaker 3: as the season goes on. But he was going through
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  Speaker 3: something that made our relationship a little bit untraditional, I
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  Speaker 3: think with like how it started. So me moving here
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  Speaker 3: and taking that stuff was like a huge deal and
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  Speaker 3: a huge step forward and like a huge intentional commitment.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, as you get older, you have these
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  Speaker 3: scars from like previous relationships, right that come up that
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  Speaker 3: can be like triggers. So especially in this week's episode,
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  Speaker 3: there is something that comes up that makes me question
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  Speaker 3: even though I feel so solid with him, I'm like, wait,
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  Speaker 3: could this be I don't want to be that naive
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  Speaker 3: girl that's moving across the country for love and I'm
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  Speaker 3: missing something, you know, like was Lindy right, Like I
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  Speaker 3: started kind of spiraling like, oh my gosh, I just
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  Speaker 3: need to talk to Kenny. So you'll see that in
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  Speaker 3: this episode.
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  Speaker 4: Well how did you guys meet?
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  Speaker 3: So we actually met through a dating app and it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't until like six months later, two falls ago, that
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  Speaker 3: we I was in the city and we went out
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  Speaker 3: in person.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, and then it was long distance for a while.
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  Speaker 3: It was long distance for a while, I was like
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  Speaker 3: coming to New York. I was also like looking at
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  Speaker 3: moving here already before we started dating, so I was
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  Speaker 3: spending more time here and that's why I was here
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  Speaker 3: and we ended up connecting, and then we probably did
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  Speaker 3: long distance for like a year, I guess, but officially
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  Speaker 3: like more six months, seven months.
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  Speaker 2: He mentioned in one of the episodes that his mom
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  Speaker 2: passed away from cancer in the past year, and you
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  Speaker 2: guys did take a break during that time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I guess. That's where I was going with
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  Speaker 3: the untraditional aspect of it. He obviously was going through
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  Speaker 3: a crazy time with his family, and you know, everyone
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  Speaker 3: processes something like that differently. And then plus because he
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  Speaker 3: had to be very present, and it was he was
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  Speaker 3: her caretaker a lot of the time that he only
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  Speaker 3: had so much capacity, right, And so we kind of
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  Speaker 3: had this conversation after a few months seeing each other,
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  Speaker 3: like I just don't know if I can be who
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  Speaker 3: you deserve me to be in this this moment, And
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  Speaker 3: so he kind of had to take a step back
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  Speaker 3: and and go through what he did with his close
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  Speaker 3: people and go through his mom passing. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: until after that when he reached back out. It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: really sure, to be honest, if we were going to reconnect.
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  Speaker 3: I felt like we were going to pick up. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, in that moment, like all you can really
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  Speaker 3: do is like release someone and like trust like the
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  Speaker 3: universe of like whatever's meant to be will be. And
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  Speaker 3: obviously it's been amazing. I feel like if you try
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  Speaker 3: to hold onto something so tight, it just never works out.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, I get that.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 4: I feel so bad for him. How's he doing now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's been a crazy year. He is
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  Speaker 3: doing good. There is a lot more that you get
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  Speaker 3: to see unfold with his family this year, which we'll
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  Speaker 3: be exciting for everyone to be a part of and
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  Speaker 3: see a glimpse of his life. But I haven't lost
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  Speaker 3: one of my parents, so it's super You can only
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  Speaker 3: be so understanding, and there's ups and downs of course,
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  Speaker 3: like grief doesn't look linear. So he's doing good. And
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  Speaker 3: I feel like he has done a lot of work
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  Speaker 3: on himself, so he's good at processing things and in
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  Speaker 3: journaling and talking about things. So so yeah, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like like it's nice that he has need to support
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  Speaker 3: him in those.
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  Speaker 2: Moments we see you going on a girl day with Danielle,
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  Speaker 2: any friendships that you've created throughout this that like you
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  Speaker 2: feel more comfortable in the group the group environment, Now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like ben Baby's steps. It's always
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  Speaker 3: interesting to see who you gravitate towards, right, especially with
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  Speaker 3: like people's energies in person. But you know, I know
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  Speaker 3: that there's a lot of opinions out there about certain
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  Speaker 3: cast members and Danielle being one of them. But I
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  Speaker 3: kind of walked into this like just clean slate right
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  Speaker 3: for me personally, and I've actually really enjoyed like getting
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  Speaker 3: to know Danielle and Lexi and Georgina and like the
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  Speaker 3: girls on the show. You see that I'm like kind
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  Speaker 3: of starting to do that. And Danielle was one of
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  Speaker 3: those first conversations that she reached out to me and
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: we got some girl time one on one.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Wonderful, wonderful Glad to hear that. Okay, So.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: We I get asked about the difference between Bachelor and
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Bravo a lot now, and I know that we can
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: only say so much, but how would you describe it?
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I just think that like you're so much in
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: this bubble on the Bachelor, right, like you don't have
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: contact with the outside world and you know, you're you're
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: in this house with people all day long, and I
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: feel like you mostly talk about relationships and like what
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: shaped you in that way in this show, like you're
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: opening up your whole life. You know, you're opening up
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: all sides of you. It's not just relationship, it's work,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: it's friendship, it's life event, big life events, and like
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: this transitionary time. So I feel like they're really different
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: in that way. Yeah, I agree.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I agree with through there any difference in the fans
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: that you see.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like they both have really huge,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: like cult communities, right, and I think from my experience
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: with Bachelor and in probably yours too, it's very positive
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: and like everyone wants to see everyone win, and like
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: everyone wants to see people find love, and it's a
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: little bit more positive. I think with Bravo there's a
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: lot more chatter and a lot more pinions shared. So like,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I haven't really gotten so much of that yet.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: But I'm sure, Yeah, you've only gotten two episodes so far.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I've noticed that.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I noticed that the Bachelor audience can be harder on
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the contestants in the sense that like they want the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: lead to end up with the perfect person, So if
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you're not the one for them, you can be I
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: feel like criticized a little bit more.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, true, that's true. Yeah, they kind of have their
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: like fan favorites, whereas like I feel like, I feel
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: like the Bravo people have really strong opinions that they're
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: not afraid to voice.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, definitely.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Bit more.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: So, you and Kenny, you went to Peru in April
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and you posted a video saying they have accidentally gotten
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: married in Peru.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Like what tell us more?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is actually a funny story. So we were
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: in Peru and I'm like, what does one do in
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Peru that's like, you know, kind of like something unique
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: to being here. And our hotel had this. Kenny and
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I are both like spiritual and and they had this
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: ceremony called like pashamama, which is basically you sit down
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: with this uh like Peruvian. I don't even think it's
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: necessarily like a shaman. It's just something that they do
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: in their culture. And they have this whole like ceremony
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: that they do, like like getting blessing blessings from Mother nature,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: and so they have these different like foods and like
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: different things that they symbolize as like abundance or work
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: or love or you know, different categories in their life.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: And it was like an hour long thing and we're
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: doing the ceremony and half like almost where it's almost
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: to the end. It's like forty minutes in and he's like,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: are you guys married? And we're like no, and he's
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: like do you want to be? And we're like yeah.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: So we're sitting there, he's, you know, doing his thing,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: and we're like, all of a sudden like holding hands
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: with like some different like herbs or something, and like
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: he's like asking Mother Nature like for her blessing basically
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: for us to be married, and all of a sudden,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: he was just like you may now kiss your your wife.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: And we were like, uh, we just we didn't even
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: like smile. We were like so in it, and we
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: just like kissed each other and we just like looked
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: forward and the ceremony went on. Then after we're like,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: are we married? Are we married? In Paro?
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, So in some cultures you may be married.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I know. I'm like calling missus Martin like, so we
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: joke about it now all the time. We're not obviously
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: actually married, but it's kind of a funny story.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: That sounds like a Bachelor date. Like does that not
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: sound like something we would do down in Paradise?
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, totally.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: How do you think The Bachelor prepared you for going
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: on this show?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I think think like Bachelor prepared me in the sense of,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: like you kind of like get a little bit, you know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: you get used to the cameras, right, Like you start
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: to like kind of see those melt away, and like
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you start to be more and more yourself when you
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: start filming, right, And I think I knew that that
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: was going to happen. I think it also made me
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: a little bit scared. I think it made me a
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: little nervous, just because I just knew that I had
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: to like have my walls down like going into this right.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: And I think I did like for Bachelor to some extent.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: But I also feel like I was, you know, I
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: was twenty four, I think when I did The Bachelor,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: and now I'm thirty four, and so such a difference
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: in ten years of just like knowing yourself and being
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: more confident and like being able to be my full self.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I think when I was on The Bachelor, I was
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: a little bit more like protective of my image and
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: like you know, trying to be like sweet and like
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: not be controversial or any of those things, Whereas, like now,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: being thirty four, I knew that on Bachelor, I was
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: portrayed with myself, but I didn't show all sides of me,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: and I went into the show being like, Okay, no,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I like need to be my full self
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: and like show everyone all of me, because that's like
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: how they're going to connect to me.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Interesting, mine was actually the opposite, Like mine was a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: detriment and a benefit at the same time. I felt
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: like I was more guarded because of The Bachelor, because
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I know how things can be like twisted or cut
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: down so that they appear one way versus the other.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: So I was very careful on camera with Housewives.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I understand I relate to that too.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I think parts of me like were especially at the beginning,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: like maybe I wasn't like speaking up as much, especially
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: being with new people, I can be a little bit
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: more quiet, and maybe you feel the same.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: That was the same.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, so I can definitely relate.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say if I had known everyone. Like
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: if basically I was out with my girl crew from
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Bachelor and the cameras were around, I probably wouldn't be
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: super unfiltered. I would my guard would be a little
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: bit more down. But it's because I can be very
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: introverted when it comes to new people.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Totally like takes like people like a second once you
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: like feel them out, to like get more of those
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: like layers peeled back for you to really be yourself.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because with these with these Bravo labs, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: especially you think, I don't know how they're going to react.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Like I know how my friends would react to me
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: saying something like this, but I don't know how they're
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: going to react, So it's best that.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I just don't say anything at all.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Totally. I'm like not gonna speak my opinion. I'm like
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: scared of, like you know, rocking the boat. Right, Maybe
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: maybe not as much as the season goes on, we'll see.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Well, tell everybody where they can find you and where
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and when they can watch in the city.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: That you can watch in the City on Bravo on
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Tuesdays on cable and on Wednesdays it's streamed on Peacock.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: You can find me on Instagram. My name is just
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Whitney Fransway TikTok the same, and I think that's about it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, guys, well I'm gonna keep watching because
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: now I'm in because you know, we're the same.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: We're the same. Oh my god, I'm literally going to
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: be texting you on the side being like, you're just
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: like you so understand where I'm coming from. So it'll
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: be nice to talk offline.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I would love that, all right, Whitney, Well, thank you
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: so much for joining us. Until next time, I've been
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Ashley and.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: She's been Whitney.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Bye bye.
• 26:41
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