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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Hey wake up and the club on 947 it is
- 0:07Speaker 2: a monday morning that your last monday of september just
- 0:10Speaker 2: by the way yeah almost almost into october dude i
- 0:13Speaker 2: cannot believe that the salary we got last week is
- 0:15Speaker 2: the one that has.
- 0:16Speaker 3: To finish what did we get a salary it's gone.
- 0:19Speaker 2: I was like no keep it with you until next
- 0:23Speaker 2: week i'm gonna blow it and blow it i did Listen,
- 0:29Speaker 2: when we got this message, I immediately remembered a fellow
- 0:33Speaker 2: by the name of Mr. Adams, who was my Afrikaans
- 0:35Speaker 2: teacher when I was in, what standard seven?
- 0:38Speaker 1: Grade nine. Grade, yeah, grade nine. Grade nine. No, grade six, seven. No,
- 0:44Speaker 1: seven is grade nine. Okay, thank you, Tim. The standards are.
- 0:47Speaker 4: Always too less than what it is in grades.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Okay, so when I was in grade nine, my Afrikaans
- 0:52Speaker 2: teacher was a guy called Mr.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Adams.
- 0:55Speaker 4: And Mr.
- 0:55Speaker 5: Adams.
- 0:56Speaker 2: cried once a week. And then I remember the one time,
- 1:01Speaker 2: I need to give you a reason to why he cried.
- 1:04Speaker 2: The class wasn't listening and then he was storming out
- 1:09Speaker 2: and he said, go to hell. And then we hadn't
- 1:11Speaker 2: rehearsed it, but the entire class said.
- 1:13Speaker 1: See you there. And then he started crying. And he
- 1:16Speaker 1: just like cried.
- 1:18Speaker 2: So when we got this message from this mom who
- 1:20Speaker 2: says that her child has come home four times in
- 1:25Speaker 2: the last two weeks to say, my teacher's always crying
- 1:28Speaker 2: in class. And now the mom doesn't know what to do.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Does she go to the school? Does she speak to
- 1:34Speaker 2: the headmaster? Does she send an email?
- 1:36Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Actually, if my child comes home and I'm not going
- 1:41Speaker 3: to mention names, but it happened to us. And I
- 1:44Speaker 3: literally went to the school and I said, I think
- 1:45Speaker 3: you need to check in on your teacher. Like, you
- 1:48Speaker 3: need to do a mental health check on her because
- 1:50Speaker 3: if she's crying in class, like just crying and just
- 1:53Speaker 3: putting on a movie for the kids.
- 1:54Speaker 1: And then she's crying. And then she's crying.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Firstly, the kids are going to wonder, like, Kids, teenagers,
- 2:00Speaker 3: they're like, oh, then they're going to deep dive and wonder.
- 2:02Speaker 1: What's wrong with her.
- 2:03Speaker 3: But the school should also be offering the teacher the
- 2:05Speaker 3: mental health support she needs because clearly something is going on.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Maybe she just needs a two-week time out, eh?
- 2:11Speaker 2: You see, and this is the thing, because with us,
- 2:14Speaker 2: we knew why Mr. Adams was crying.
- 2:15Speaker 1: It's because we were terrible children.
- 2:17Speaker 2: You were the reason. Yeah, we were the reason. So
- 2:20Speaker 2: we would never go home and tell our parents that Mr.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Adams was always crying because then the jig would be
- 2:24Speaker 2: up is that we are terrible people, right?
- 2:26Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 2:27Speaker 2: So we kept quiet. But if you have a teacher, unprovoked, unprovoked,
- 2:34Speaker 2: they just cry you a river. I think you must
- 2:39Speaker 2: let the school know.
- 2:40Speaker 1: And obviously this is not because of the work. The workload.
- 2:44Speaker 1: An English teacher saying how beautiful it is. Reading it. Poetry.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Poetry and going, guys.
- 2:49Speaker 3: It's so beautiful.
- 2:50Speaker 1: A tale of two cities. We actually had an Afrikaans teacher.
- 2:53Speaker 3: We had to do a pot full winter in Afrikaans.
- 2:57Speaker 1: And then it's a very deep, dark book. She chose it.
- 3:00Speaker 3: And then she used to cry at the one scene.
- 3:02Speaker 3: I was like, oh this touch of court.
- 3:04Speaker 1: So it's not that though not like no it's not
- 3:06Speaker 1: that do we call.
- 3:08Speaker 4: No you have to call the school i mean we
- 3:11Speaker 4: knew why our teacher was crying our technology teacher because
- 3:13Speaker 4: she was always like on chat rooms you know like
- 3:16Speaker 4: backward before there were dating sites remember people used to
- 3:18Speaker 4: yeah you have to meet then those things never used
- 3:22Speaker 4: to last and then she'd have a cry you're like
- 3:24Speaker 4: my marks can't be that.
- 3:25Speaker 3: Bad babe So she was crying because she was dating
- 3:28Speaker 3: online and it was going sour.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Yes, because she got on dates and it wouldn't work out.
- 3:31Speaker 4: And then we debrief on Fridays because then she'd look
- 3:34Speaker 4: after us in the free period.
- 3:36Speaker 1: But you know what?
- 3:37Speaker 3: It's just a case of to do any job, you
- 3:39Speaker 3: have to be at your best mentally. We're not expecting
- 3:42Speaker 3: teachers to be sunshiny and tap dancing every day. But
- 3:45Speaker 3: if a teacher's crying every day for no reason in
- 3:47Speaker 3: your class, how much learning is your child doing?
- 3:50Speaker 2: 011-8838-947 This is our point How much learning are your
- 3:55Speaker 2: kids doing If there's a teacher crying all the time
- 3:58Speaker 2: I need so many people to call in I need
- 4:00Speaker 2: four pupils to call in And if your teacher was
- 4:03Speaker 2: crying Would you tell your parents? I need for teachers
- 4:05Speaker 2: to call in and be like, if you are constantly crying,
- 4:08Speaker 2: do you think our kids should rat you out and
- 4:11Speaker 2: then we go to your headmaster?
- 4:12Speaker 6: Yeah, and how many cries are we talking, teachers? Like
- 4:16Speaker 6: one cry, a term, is that okay?
- 4:18Speaker 4: I think anything more than two random episodes requires intervention.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Guys, do you know how traumatizing it is to see
- 4:26Speaker 2: somebody cry? Because it's traumatizing because you're never going to
- 4:30Speaker 2: know why they're crying. So you're nosing this. You're like,
- 4:32Speaker 2: why was Mrs. Vanderbilt crying? Do you know what I'm saying?
- 4:35Speaker 2: And you just never know.
- 4:37Speaker 7: 011-8838-947.
- 4:38Speaker 2: You're sending us a voice.
- 4:43Speaker 3: Note.
- 4:43Speaker 1: 084-0000947.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Let us know if your child's teacher cries.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Four times a week. Your child comes home four times
- 4:50Speaker 1: a week. She cried again.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Would you just finally go to the school and be like, guys...
- 4:55Speaker 2: What's going on?
- 4:55Speaker 1: Help her or stop this.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Like, is she watching Grey's Anatomy again?
- 5:02Speaker 1: What's going on?
- 5:03Speaker 8: I think it's important the parent reaches out to the
- 5:06Speaker 8: principal because that's not good on all levels. Not good
- 5:09Speaker 8: for the teacher themselves and not good for teaching children.
- 5:17Speaker 1: 084-0000947. What's your take on it?
- 5:19Speaker 2: If your child's teacher, if your child reported that the
- 5:22Speaker 2: teacher was crying every second day, for a month straight,
- 5:26Speaker 2: would you step in?
- 5:27Speaker 1: Would you be nosy?
- 5:29Speaker 2: Or would you use this opportunity to teach a child that,
- 5:32Speaker 2: in this family, we mind our own business?
- 5:34Speaker 1: Just take Mrs. DeVette a piece of chocolate. Just, here's
- 5:37Speaker 1: a chocolate. Just take her a chocolate. Just say we
- 5:39Speaker 1: love her. Lynette, you're in Boxburg. Good morning.
- 5:42Speaker 7: Good morning, team. How are you?
- 5:43Speaker 1: We're great, Lynette.
- 5:44Speaker 2: How are you, babe?
- 5:46Speaker 9: Fine yourself. I'm coming for the defense of teachers. I
- 5:49Speaker 9: was a teacher for two and a half years. I
- 5:51Speaker 9: worked at a private school. Just to note, private school
- 5:54Speaker 9: parents are the absolute worst.
- 5:56Speaker 7: I agree.
- 5:57Speaker 9: I cried every single day. If it was not in
- 6:00Speaker 9: my car, it was at break. If it was not
- 6:02Speaker 9: at break, it was on the toilet. And shout out
- 6:04Speaker 9: to my ex in Joburg. Jayden, you broke my heart
- 6:08Speaker 9: next to a rugby field. And I cried so much
- 6:11Speaker 9: that a mom had to console me because I couldn't
- 6:15Speaker 9: do it.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Is Jayden also a teacher?
- 6:17Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 6:18Speaker 9: No, I'm going to say something else. No, he works
- 6:20Speaker 9: in HR.
- 6:24Speaker 1: But now, hang on.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Why did he come break up with you at work?
- 6:28Speaker 7: No, he didn't have the board.
- 6:31Speaker 6: He broke up with me on WhatsApp.
- 6:36Speaker 7: Okay.
- 6:37Speaker 2: He broke up with you on WhatsApp, which you read
- 6:40Speaker 2: at school.
- 6:40Speaker 1: So you were on your phone at school. You see,
- 6:42Speaker 1: if you weren't reading your phone.
- 6:43Speaker 2: At school and looking after the children, you wouldn't know
- 6:45Speaker 2: that you were broken up with until you got.
- 6:47Speaker 1: In the car.
- 6:48Speaker 9: I was WhatsAppping where my one player was and then
- 6:51Speaker 9: I saw his message and then it was a train smash.
- 6:53Speaker 3: And was it a private school mom that comforted you?
- 6:56Speaker 9: You're ashamed. She like held me. I was like 22.
- 6:59Speaker 9: She held me and then the other moms tried to
- 7:01Speaker 9: coach my match.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Which they do anyway, right?
- 7:04Speaker 3: Because they're private school moms. Oh, my word.
- 7:07Speaker 9: But my point being, you know what? Management never helped me.
- 7:11Speaker 9: Parents actually helped me get through it. And then, yeah,
- 7:12Speaker 9: at the end, I left teaching and I don't regret it.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Where are you now? I'm worried about where these waterfalls
- 7:18Speaker 2: are flowing now.
- 7:19Speaker 9: I'm actually in the beauty industry.
- 7:24Speaker 1: A beauty industry. Okay. Oh, that's a great place to
- 7:26Speaker 1: go cry.
- 7:27Speaker 6: Yeah, it's easy to cry there. Lynette, was it only once?
- 7:30Speaker 6: Did you only cry during that match or was it
- 7:33Speaker 6: like a week? Because obviously it takes long to get
- 7:34Speaker 6: over heartbreak, right? So every day you're in class.
- 7:37Speaker 9: It was a bunch of things. I was miserable at work.
- 7:39Speaker 9: I didn't have management support. And then it was just
- 7:42Speaker 9: that nonsense. So it was kind of just constant crying.
- 7:45Speaker 9: The one mom did report me. And then I told her,
- 7:48Speaker 9: you know what? Please try being my shoes.
- 7:49Speaker 10: Please.
- 7:51Speaker 4: No, she wants to keep her husband as an aside.
- 7:53Speaker 4: But anyway, did the kids ask you what was wrong?
- 7:55Speaker 4: Because we always ask the teachers. There was always a
- 7:57Speaker 4: voice like, ma'am, why are you crying?
- 7:59Speaker 2: No shame.
- 8:01Speaker 9: The kids were actually so sweet. I taught grade 8
- 8:05Speaker 9: to 12. And all the nines, They had bought me
- 8:08Speaker 9: one day about seven or nine bushes of flowers, chocolates.
- 8:11Speaker 9: They were absolutely the sweetest kids.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Babe, that means they were talking about you saying that
- 8:15Speaker 2: woman is not going.
- 8:18Speaker 7: To make it.
- 8:18Speaker 10: Oh, no, 100%.
- 8:19Speaker 5: We need to do something.
- 8:21Speaker 9: No, my matrix had a bet how long I would last.
- 8:23Speaker 9: In the end, they won.
- 8:24Speaker 6: I was going to say, because four of them pitching
- 8:26Speaker 6: up with flowers means that there's a whole organization happening.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Have you seen grade eights trying to organize anything?
- 8:33Speaker 7: Sorry.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Seriously.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Useless. Five people rocking up with flowers at the funeral, hey?
- 8:37Speaker 2: I'm just telling you now.
- 8:39Speaker 5: I don't think it will help reaching out to the
- 8:42Speaker 5: management or to the principal because I have a friend
- 8:44Speaker 5: who had a friend who was a teacher and the
- 8:47Speaker 5: principal was making the teacher's life a living hell.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Ah, you see now, which is why I believe parents
- 8:55Speaker 2: must speak out because for the teacher who is employed
- 8:58Speaker 2: by the headmaster, right, and the headmaster is making the
- 9:01Speaker 2: teacher's life a living hell, The teacher cannot.
- 9:03Speaker 1: It's the authority thing, right? Yeah, now you're going up.
- 9:05Speaker 2: But now if I'm coming, I'm saying, hey, your teacher's
- 9:08Speaker 2: always crying here, then all of a sudden the spotlight
- 9:10Speaker 2: is on you and the environment that the teacher works in.
- 9:13Speaker 2: And then you have to check yourself because sooner or
- 9:15Speaker 2: later it's going to come to light that you treat
- 9:18Speaker 2: your teachers badly.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that was my question, right?
- 9:21Speaker 6: So does it matter why the teacher's crying? So let's
- 9:23Speaker 6: say you find out they're going through a tough time
- 9:26Speaker 6: at home, maybe, or is it just the school?
- 9:30Speaker 1: So what makes it worse?
- 9:31Speaker 2: I just think you let the school know so that
- 9:33Speaker 2: if it is them, you're kind of saying, I'm checking you.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I see what you guys are doing.
- 9:38Speaker 2: I see what you guys are doing. Teresa's always crying.
- 9:42Speaker 2: You guys figure it out. Why is she always crying?
- 9:44Speaker 2: Because then they have to look at themselves.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Bradley, you're in Germiston. Good morning, my guy.
- 9:49Speaker 7: Good morning.
- 9:50Speaker 10: How are you guys?
- 9:51Speaker 2: We are fantastic.
- 9:52Speaker 7: How are you?
- 9:53Speaker 10: I'm doing perfect.
- 9:54Speaker 9: I'm doing perfect.
- 9:55Speaker 1: So what do you think?
- 9:56Speaker 10: Yeah, no, I'm completely against it. I'm completely against crying.
- 10:00Speaker 10: in class. I mean, because it's a business transaction.
- 10:04Speaker 1: That is it.
- 10:04Speaker 10: I educate you. I pay you to educate my kid.
- 10:07Speaker 10: I pay you to educate them. That's what you should
- 10:09Speaker 10: be doing in class. Yeah, there was a caller that
- 10:13Speaker 10: said she's a teacher, she was a teacher, and she
- 10:16Speaker 10: was crying because of some boyfriend thing and stuff like that. Like,
- 10:20Speaker 10: I'm completely against that. Do that on your breaks. Don't
- 10:23Speaker 10: do that while you're supposed to be teaching my kids.
- 10:25Speaker 10: Because here's the thing, here's the thing. If it comes
- 10:28Speaker 10: to my kid that's maybe misbehaving in class or my
- 10:31Speaker 10: kid beat another kid, the very first thing they're doing
- 10:35Speaker 10: is calling my kid to the boardroom and I'm receiving
- 10:37Speaker 10: a call at work that I need to attend and whatnot.
- 10:40Speaker 10: So when it comes to me ratting out a teacher,
- 10:43Speaker 10: I would not do that. I mean, I would not
- 10:45Speaker 10: hesitate at all.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Because also, do you know how we always stress that,
- 10:49Speaker 2: especially during exams, right? Tips for children during exams. The
- 10:54Speaker 2: learning environment is important.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Calm environment.
- 10:56Speaker 2: You need to make a calm environment as they go
- 10:58Speaker 2: into exams.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Environment, environment.
- 11:01Speaker 2: What kind of environment are you creating for children when
- 11:04Speaker 2: you as a teacher are constantly crying in class?
- 11:07Speaker 10: Exactly, I mean, and just picture this, when you get home, right,
- 11:13Speaker 10: and then maybe you're cooking, your kid is in the,
- 11:16Speaker 10: like maybe in the living room, kid is doing their homework,
- 11:19Speaker 10: and you tell your kid, tell me what you've learned today,
- 11:22Speaker 10: or just say what you've done today in class, and
- 11:24Speaker 10: the kid is telling you that she was crying again
- 11:27Speaker 10: the whole class through. We only learned 5% of what
- 11:31Speaker 10: we're supposed to learn in that entire session.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Because she was just crying.
- 11:35Speaker 10: Because she's crying there. She's stepping out and looking at
- 11:38Speaker 10: her through the window. She's crying, weeping there while she's
- 11:40Speaker 10: supposed to be crying.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Not weeping.
- 11:43Speaker 2: I'm not weeping. Bradley, I'm on your side. And here's
- 11:46Speaker 2: another thing. We forget that not all kids come from a.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Like a stable home environment. Yeah, and this kind of
- 11:55Speaker 1: thing will affect kids in different ways. Do you know
- 11:57Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
- 11:58Speaker 7: So.
- 11:59Speaker 2: At most times, and this is why I always even
- 12:01Speaker 2: stress to my son, you have to be kind. Like
- 12:04Speaker 2: you have to be kind because something that's a joke
- 12:07Speaker 2: to you is not a joke to somebody else. Because
- 12:09Speaker 2: not everybody comes from the same home that you come from, stable,
- 12:11Speaker 2: loving and all of that.
- 12:13Speaker 1: And we have to remember.
- 12:14Speaker 2: That, guys. So now imagine a child who comes from
- 12:17Speaker 2: a turbulent household. And then they escape the turbulent household
- 12:21Speaker 2: to be put in a class where there's an adult
- 12:23Speaker 2: always crying.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going through some kind of trauma as well.
- 12:26Speaker 5: That's not fair.
- 12:27Speaker 1: That's not fair. Renee, you and Mayor, what do you think?
- 12:31Speaker 7: Morning, Tim. Morning. So I'm on the other side a
- 12:33Speaker 7: little bit. I don't think the school will do anything
- 12:36Speaker 7: if you say anything. A few years ago, one of
- 12:38Speaker 7: my daughters saw a teacher crying. Apparently, the teacher cried
- 12:43Speaker 7: quite often. They did tell them not to do anything.
- 12:46Speaker 7: She said she couldn't. She went and gave the teacher
- 12:48Speaker 7: a hug and just said to her, I hope you're okay.
- 12:51Speaker 7: Next day, we were called into the principal's office to
- 12:53Speaker 7: actually reprimand my daughter for hugging the teacher.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Oh, man. I was floored. What teacher was this?
- 13:02Speaker 7: I think it was an Afrikaans teacher.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Why was she reprimanded?
- 13:10Speaker 7: And they actually wanted us to reprimand her at home
- 13:13Speaker 7: for showing empathy.
- 13:14Speaker 4: No.
- 13:15Speaker 1: And did you tell them to get lost?
- 13:17Speaker 7: I told them to get lost. I said... The world
- 13:19Speaker 7: needs more empathetic people. Like, focus on the kid that
- 13:23Speaker 7: made the teacher cry or find out why the teacher's crying.
- 13:27Speaker 1: Leave my daughter out of it. And my child is
- 13:30Speaker 1: a child.
- 13:31Speaker 2: There is no way that in this situation that we
- 13:33Speaker 2: are looking for somebody that's wrong and we're making.
- 13:35Speaker 1: It the child, guys. There is no way. That's so weird.
- 13:39Speaker 7: And like you said, we need more kind people in
- 13:40Speaker 7: this world. People that will hug someone when they see
- 13:44Speaker 7: someone crying or actually go and help them.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Is your daughter still in that school?
- 13:48Speaker 7: She is, for the last year.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Final year. That's so weird.
- 13:53Speaker 6: I can't believe you got called in to say your
- 13:56Speaker 6: daughter's not allowed.
- 13:57Speaker 1: What was the issue? You're not allowed to hug a
- 13:59Speaker 1: teacher or you're not allowed to? What is the issue?
- 14:01Speaker 7: The issue was that they told her not to. Or
- 14:04Speaker 7: they told the class not to.
- 14:06Speaker 2: So they told the class to ignore a bad situation
- 14:08Speaker 2: and your daughter said, no, I'm not going to do that.
- 14:10Speaker 1: And that was the reprimand.
- 14:12Speaker 2: Does your daughter have like a, you know, like in
- 14:14Speaker 2: the yearbook, you can write one final quote.
- 14:16Speaker 1: For the school.
- 14:18Speaker 7: I don't know what it is.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Oh, okay, because then outright hugs are free. That would
- 14:24Speaker 2: be my final message to the school.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Hugs are free.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Morning, Anele and the club. Please, we must remember that
- 14:30Speaker 2: a teacher, he's a human, so a human cries.
- 14:34Speaker 9: Take it back now.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Back to making your morning. Anele and the club. I
- 14:40Speaker 1: love this show.
- 14:41Speaker 8: On 947.