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S3 E35: Exhausted · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Fifteen de crazy. You can see you breath out in the Lake Effect Bacon
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  tables and get would you here? Wherese would you have to be? And
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  do ron Elvis in the lay Panchow remembers that you need to know. I
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  won't you out here? Now? Your family? Where's would you have to
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  be? Where else would you have be? Welcome into the nicol City Crew.
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  I am your host, Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and
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  and stream Yard. We're so glad that you're joining us for some of your
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  Buffalo Bills and NFL content again today and as always, these are my Bill's
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  thoughts set out loud. It's a vibe, so ridiculous story with six the
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  show can let us where's would you want to be? All right, let's
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  get straight to it. It's it's it's funny, it's sobering because I these
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  seasons come to like such an abrupt halt, and then all of a sudden,
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  you know everything that you're working for, everything that you are, You
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  know hoping for is just it's just done. And obviously we don't play on
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  the team or anything like that, but we are invested in the team,
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  and we are invested in there, you know, as I always said in
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  my intro, like our our their their failures, their successes, like we're
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  We're with them the entire way, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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  But it doesn't make days like today any easier. Joining us tonight as
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  always my co host writing Shotgun Adam, dump truck repsick high at the crew
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  DT. We gotta we you know, it's part of it. We gotta
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  do these days too. So when the season ends and we don't come out
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  as a super Bowl champion, we gotta we gotta still face the music.
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  Nicole City, what's up? What's up baby? What's up? Rob?
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  We we we talk about it all the time. We do this as kind
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  of therapy. It's it's therapeutic to get it off, and we probably need
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  it more than ever tonight, for sure, you know I'd like to start
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  off for sure, just saying another year in the books, another great season.
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  Overall I think is you know, from a fan perspective of gearing up
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  and you know, having all the experiences we've had, we're we're just waiting
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  for that big last one and and hopefully we see it. Hopefully we see
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  it. But you know, it's a good year up until then, and
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  you know, looking at looking great to get back and chop it up with
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  you tonight and had a good weekend together up until, like you said,
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  that final it was like all that build up, all that fire, and
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  then it was just over. So here we go. Yeah, I mean
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  it's crazy because you know, I didn't really see this coming in respects to
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  I know, some people said that they're not surprised and things like that,
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  and based on the team and the defense and YadA, YadA, YadA,
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  But I really felt like we had a good shot, you know, to
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  be to be completely honest with you, And it's funny because you're absolutely right,
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  like we just we invest so much, you know, and I'm I'm
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  tired DT to be completely honest, and I expressed that to you after the
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  game. I mean, we'll talk with the Nickel City Crew Tailgate report at
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  the end of the show, presented by twenty six Shirts, But just tired,
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  you know, DT to be completely honest. Tired BILLZ Mafia Nicco City
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  do. It's funny because like we've we've got emotional investment, you know,
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  we've got physical investment, you know, going to the games, the tailgating
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  and you know, getting everything ready to go and thinking about Big Ben and
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  how we were all setting up the tents and all the other stuff and getting
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  the blowers ready and all the good stuff on Sunday. And then there's also
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  a financial investment because none of that stuff's free, so you got to go
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  to the game. And regardless if you're a season ticket holder like myself,
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  and you you know, either way, you still have to, you know,
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  decide to spend the money and you're gonna go, even if it's just
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  to a playoff game or the season opener or whatever the case may be.
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  And it's just I'm just I'm tired. I love the bills. I show
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  it with my pocket, my wallet, and then you know, I actually
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  get in the car and then I drive to come to see the bills because
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  I love them so much. And I left, you know, those grass
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  slots very very exhausted. And that's why I named the episode of the Way
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  that I did DT because I just I thought it was a good shot.
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  I thought that we had an opportunity to go to Baltimore this week and really
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  kind of put up a good fight, and you know, some guys get
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  you know, back from the injury list and so on and so forth,
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  and the way that the game ended and just like it was just so abrupt
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  and so quick that after that two minute warning, you know, I felt
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  pretty good about our opportunity coming out of the two minute warning, and then
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  all of a sudden, it was just it was just over. It was
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  just like a swift kick in the nuts because before you know it, it's
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  done. And I don't I get I'm still been having a little bit of
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  tough time rectifying that. You see, I'm in all black tonight like a
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  funeral, and that you get on of your you're black as well, and
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  it just kind of matches the mood because of the fact that I just I
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  didn't expect it. I know that, you know, obviously there's a chance
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  that you could lose, but I just didn't see it coming. And I
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  think the abrupt nature of the two minute warning. And I will go over
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  that because I guess it's our responsibility is BAFIA members to debate it or talk
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  about it. But I feel like the way that it ended DT was just
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  it was just like it was over before you could even process it, you
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  know what I mean. Like I stood, I stood there at the seats
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  if you were with me, and I just had my head down because,
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  like I was, like, it's it's it's really over. And there's another
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  year that goes by, and what do we always talk about how the years
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  stack on top of the others DT, and this is, you know,
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  another year that we didn't get it done and didn't even get back to the
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  Sea Championship. Can't let them over the Super Bowl? Yeah, Rob,
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  I don't know if it's you know, you and me, we're just getting
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  older as well, and so we're starting to feel these things a little more,
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  you know, and we know, you know, it's not forever,
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  and we're starting to feel a little more physically and financially and everything else as
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  we get older and have you know, adult things and things we got to
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  take care of. And then you know, this team, it just makes
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  it hard in that respect, and you look at the past two years of
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  you know, last year with every trial and tribulation you could have had,
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  you know, we had right with starting from the tops Massacre all the way
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  to tomorrow Hamlin and and and everything in between. This year you have more
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  of the team itself, you know, creating that fatigue of being six and
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  six and no shot we make the playoffs, and then going on this you
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  know, somewhat I wouldn't call it miraculous run, but a hell of a
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  run, you know, to get to that two seed and have these two
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  home playoff games, and so just the exhaustion of up and down and you
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  know, we're the excitement of the season and then oh we're screwed and we
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  stink, and then oh we're back and we're good again, and then it
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  just ends like that. So and you know, and we had the weather
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  deal here as well, had to get a game moved and shovel out the
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  stadium, had to you know. So it just seems like the past two
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  years, more than anything, have just been more exhausting than previous years.
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  And I don't know if it's yeah, especially, I don't know if it's
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  just we're getting older and we're starting to feel it more. Rob and Nicholas
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  and the crew, and you know, everybody's north to thirty and we're gonna
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  be closer to fifty than twenty here soon and and uh, you know,
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  but I feel it, you know, I feel it in my bones.
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  I feel it every every aspect. I feel the exhaustion and just kind of
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  dump out of how it ends. And think of this team as well.
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  You know that they what they went through last year and then kind of fell
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  short and then build back up and then still had to deal with some bs,
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  you know, being six and six and getting the game moved and all
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  these injuries and then this happens too, So I mean we're exhausted. The
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  fan base is exhausted, and this team's gotta be exhausted, Robin, and
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  it's it's it's tough to find the silver lining two days, three days later
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  here. You know it will brighten up, as it always does, I
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  think for us. But Nicol City, well, I'm real with you right
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  now, like it's dark, like it's dark right now. It's it just
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  don't feel right. It feels we're tired, and I feel everybody involved is
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  as well. Yeah, And I think that that's okay, you know.
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  I I've come to learn that it's okay to feel your feelings, like it's
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  okay to to feel and sit down in your emotions sometimes and kind of you
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  know, resting them for lack of a better term. And I think that's
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  something that I think it's healthy to do sometimes, and you're absolutely right.
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  It's it's kind of dark, and it's dark right now here at Charlotte's been
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  raining all day and things like that. But you know, obviously life still
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  goes on. But I couldn't imagine being a player on this team because everything
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  that you just talked about made me woozy with you know, like like Mama
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  Monday says, the verdic go up and down, and it's like, that's
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  exactly the roller coaster ride that they took us on this year. And and
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  the fact that it was you said it wasn't miraculous, it was miraculous because
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  it's six and six. We could go back to that episode. I didn't
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  think that we were even be in that position, you know, with the
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  Dolphins leading by so many games and you know, catching them, and then
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  obviously it culminates with the Week eighteen matchup on Sunday night. They flexed the
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  game for us and it's it's just, you know, we take over the
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  stadium again down in Miami, so it was nothing short of miraculous. So
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  I give the team credit. I give you know, the coaches and Sean
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  McDermott on down credit for how they they rallied after six and six, because
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  it was definitely real dark back then. But the problem that I've got is
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  that, you know, I'm starting to feel like there's a you know what,
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  you know, the definition of his saying and if it's been talked about,
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  you know, it's doing the same thing all the time and then accepting,
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  you know, expecting different results. And I'm starting to feel like we're
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  getting dangerously close to that. And we've got all off season to talk and
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  we'll take a break here at Nicol City Crew until the draft. But you'll
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  hear it on w g R, you'll hear it on your other podcast that
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  you listen to, Bill's Mafia Niccho City Crew. Is that you know,
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  there's definitely some light at the end of the tunnel, and we'll talk about
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  the optimism for next season and there's always a way to get ramped back up.
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  But right now, I just feel like sitting in this because of the
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  fact that I think that it's a little bit healthy, and because of the
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  fact that I have invested like a ton, you know, just like those
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  Bafia has, and like, I've been doing this a long time. So
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  I think that part of my exhaustion, for sure, I know for a
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  fact, is because I'm a season ticket holder out of town. And like
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  I told you after the game, I was like, man, I'm honestly
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  not sure how many more years I could do this. The reason that I
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  have season tickets as long as I've had is because of the fact that I
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  wanted to be along for the ride. I wanted to say that I was
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  in the number when the team got great and when they went on that magical
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  run to the super Bowl. And now I feel like we're teering on a
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  little bit of insanity with the leadership because of the fact that I don't know
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  if mcdermiy can get us over the hump. But I know that some people
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  don't like that terminology, but it really is the same thing. Three straight
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  divisional round losses, one AFC Championship Game appearance with the best you know,
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  one of the best quarterbacks in the league, top three, top four at
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  the worst you know with Lamar and Patrick Homes and obviously with with Burrow.
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  Now so other than that, Like, I'm starting to wonder if we need
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  a new voice, if there's something, you know, different type of direction
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  that the team needs to go to, you know, commit to all offense.
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  And we'll get to that in a moment. With the you know the
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  coaches comments from from yesterday at the end of the year presser. But I'm
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  I'm exhausted, and I mean, you know the way I feel right now,
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  DT, I would love to just you know, watch next season at
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  home. To be honest, I mean, Nate is my middle king.
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  Nate. You already know he loves the Bills and you know he cried like
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  a baby. I heard his mother tell me after the game, and like,
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  you know, once again, you know what I mean. He wears
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  his emotions on the sleeves. But he enjoys watching the games with me so
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  much. So, you know, the way I'm sitting right now, I'm
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  like, man, do I give more money back to the Bills next year
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  and and do it all over again and drive up and you know, YadA,
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  YadA, YadA, Or do I just sit back and watch it with
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  Nate, you know, this year in Quincy and just kind of enjoy it
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  and take it in that way like a normal uh you know, quote unquote
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  normal fan, would I outside and outside of town, you know what I
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  mean, because it's it's it's crazy because most fans don't act the way that
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  I act. So I've never tried to act like I'm more of a Bills
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  fan or more dedicated than anyone else. But I don't you know, I
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  also don't ignore the fact that it is a lot, you know what I
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  mean. Driving up six hundred fifty miles thirteen hundred round trip is a lot.
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  I've always said that I'm not normal. I'm not you know, the
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  typical Bills fan, and I take pride in it. But there does come
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  a breaking point, and I don't know dt I mean, maybe I do
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  the off season to come at the draft to come because right now when they
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  send that email, they send it right away to before the draft, and
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  when they ask for that buddy again, if they asked me tomorrow, I
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  wouldn't send it to it. So they better leave me alone for a couple
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  months because I do need some time to decompressed because right now I'm not sure
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  if I'm coming back right off the Batman, I'll be there for the whole
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  old or something like that. I don't know, man, And that's just
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  you said, you gon keep it real. I got to keep it real,
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  man, I am. I am truly exhausted, for sure. I'm
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  truly. Yes. That's an interesting thing to kind of joke about, right,
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  the strategy of the ticket office. When do we reach back out?
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  You know, when is enough time, enough time to kind of the mill
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  and get back into it. And you know, and but we talked about
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  it all all last week. It was one of the biggest points I was,
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  you know, I personally made, was the fact of Josh Allen,
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  year seven of a career that he gets hit. He's taken injuries the past
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  two years that have been on the injury report the entire season, you know,
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  whether it was the elbow last year and the shoulder and everything this year,
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  and he's getting surgery done on it and everything to move on from it.
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  Like we know, this dude isn't gonna play forever. He's not gonna
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  play with Tom Brady wank career just by the way he plays and everything.
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  And it took the entire, you know, seven years. So if we
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  get fourteen out of him, I think that's successful, right, And so
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  halfway in. It takes halfway to get the game we all asked for the
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  game. We all wanted the game we needed as Mafia. The excuse we
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  made for ourselves to say, oh, we would have won the Super Bowl
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  if we would have had the Chiefs at home, because we would have beat
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  him and went on a one. Well, we got that game with the
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  Chiefs team that was low and down or not mowing down. But we get
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  that game seven years. It takes half Josh Allen's career to get that game.
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  And it's the same ship Rob, you know. So it's like,
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  that's what I'm battling with the most, is like it was we we kind
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  of were not as realistic as we probably should have been in the early years
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  of this run. You know, it's it'll happen, it'll happen. We
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  just need this to happen, and it'll happen. We just need this to
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  happen. It'll happen. And then reality sets in and we got that and
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  it's year seven for Josh Allen and we still lose. And that's like what
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  I'm battling with the most right now. It's like because it's a lot like
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  it took a lot for us to get here, Like looking back, you
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  know, from I remember breaking the drought and going to the playoffs. Granted
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  that was before Josh Allen, but between then and now, like everything,
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  like all the effort and time and money. I've definitely invested way more time
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  and money than I did in the drought. Like, yeah, I was
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  going games and yeah, you know, but it was that was just you
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  were getting tickets for fifteen bucks and yeah, yeah exactly. So you know,
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  from that seven from when they break the drought to now, like I'm
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  just thinking of like everything I've done and the team and ups and downs and
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  like, and we were kind of making a false reality is all we need
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  is this? Or all we need is this? And I think that's gonna
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  be the toughest part of this offseason is being real with ourselves. Is as
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  a fan base and being real with ourselves, as you know, and this
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  team needs to start being real with themselves, you know, Like you said,
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  definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
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  I do it with my golf game every summer. I don't think magically
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  magically, I don't I I don't swing for six months because I'm in the
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  winter tunder up here. I'm just gonna come out and be better. You're
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  not. Yeah, So yeah, I don't know, right, But that's
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  what I'm bad on with the most is like that point of we made this
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  false like it's okay because we're gonna get this soon. It's okay because we're
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  gonna get this soon. And then we got what we figuratively wanted. Yeah,
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  and it didn't make a difference. Yeah, I mean, shout out
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  to Scott twenty four to seven or over at Buffalo fan base is one of
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  our guys, I got it. We gotta get what you Scott, you
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  narady though you are a priority for next season. We've got to get you
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  on and start doing some cross pollinating in respects to the Buffalo fan base.
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  So shout out to Scott listening in a part of Nickel City Crew tonight,
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  and he's absolutely right. I mean tons of blood, sweat, tears,
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  money, emotions. It's you know, that's why I'm okay tonight. You
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  know, we'll get to it and we'll you know, we'll go through the
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  emotions and we'll get to everything that we need to get through. But like
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  I'm okay when when we we shut down for tonight, I'm okay, we're
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  taking a step back because I need this time, like I just I And
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  it's not because like I'm I'm you know what do I always tell you DT.
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  I pride myself on being, you know, a practical, a logical
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  Bills fan to stand that only one team and I just can't stand it when
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  they after the games and the coaches and everybody wants to do it, there's
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  only one team that's happy. There's only one team that's happy, and like,
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  you know, like I fucking get it, Like I know how sports
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  work, I know how professional sports work, but like it's not about that.
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  I wasn't rose colored glasses thinking that the Bills are going to win the
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  Super Bowl every single year or anything like that. But when shit got ramped
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  up after Josh Allen ascended, I felt like it was a great opportunity.
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  The AFC Championship game I gave them. I did not expect us to be
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  there that year, So it was okay. Yes, I was mad at
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  McDermott for his choices of kicking the field goals, thought that it was very
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  tentative, thought that it was very cowardly, but I mean, I I
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  was still very happy for the trajectory that we were headed on. And then
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  after that thirteen seconds is we always talked about that's the gut punch of all
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  gut punches. And because of that, like it's starting to become something where
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  it's like, well, when is it going to be? And what did
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  we say before this game? Because of all the things that you just laid
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  out that we made ourselves and convinced ourselves to believe that this is it,
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  Like Okay, hey, we got them here, that's all we need.
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  There's no Tyreek Hill on that team, Kelsey's looking a little bit older,
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  and like this is it, Like this is great, great opportunity. And
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  it was a great opportunity regardless of the defensive injuries, and it just fortunate
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  to end. Really the way that it ended was just it was crazy because
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  even with the defensive injuries, DT we'll get to it real quick, but
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  we were right there and somebody had said it a GGR this week somebody had
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  mentioned what somebody else had said, and they talked about how the fact that
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  the fact that the Bills are so close in these games to Mahomes and stuff
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  like that is not an indictment on Josh Allen. It actually props up and
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  shows how great he is because of all the deficiencies around him at certain points
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  in time. And Sunday was no different that defense with aj Klin frush off
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  the couch getting torn up by Patrick Mahomes's twenty yard game. I mean eight
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  twenty yard plays in one game. That's a lot. That's a ton of
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  fucking yards. And because of that, we I mean we were still within
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  it with two minutes, so as we transition, I guess it's a rite
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  of passage. It's required to chop up those last two minutes. If you
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  hear w g R year any have the other outlets. Everybody's talking about it.
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  I don't have too much appetite to get to get wabbled down in it.
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  But it was the abrupt nature of how we lost really encapulates a season.
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  So DT two minute warning. You and I are sitting next to each
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  other, Secual one O four stand up. I am the mayor of Section
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  one O four. My first lieutenant is there, Josh Cool right over my
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  right shoulder, making me feel comfortable as always. Shout out to him.
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  And it's crazy because yes, you know you think about like scenarios, DT,
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  and of course you want the perfect scenario. And what's the perfect scenario
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  is that Josh Allen tumbles in from the one or two yard line with no
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  time expiring on the clock. And you know what I mean, game over
• 19:42
  Bills, you know, Bills win. You know what I mean. They
• 19:44
  kicked direct extra point just for formality, and everything is just not going to
• 19:48
  be perfect that way. So yes, I would have loved to bleed the
• 19:51
  clock. What I what I won't do is be a hypocrite. These guys
• 19:56
  are playing at the highest level of competition, a sports competit. They are
• 20:00
  making decisions in a split second. So when Josh Allen sees Shakir come open
• 20:07
  on that post route, I just have a real tough time, DT.
• 20:11
  And I want your thoughts because I've been listening to gr and I know you
• 20:12
  were joking with me on Monday, like, don't listen to those guys all
• 20:15
  the way home, and I'm like, I'm gonna be consuming every fucking second
• 20:19
  of this because all I've got to do is drive south back to Charlotte,
• 20:22
  so there's nothing else for me to do. And I listened to every second
• 20:25
  from Howard and Jeremy in the morning, all the way through shoping the Bulldog.
• 20:27
  By the time I got to Charlotte, it was around four thirty because
• 20:30
  I left nice and early and I listened every second and they were, you
• 20:33
  know, everybody was parson over and things like that. The perfect scenario is,
• 20:37
  of course, to bleed the clock. I can't get mad at Josh
• 20:40
  Allen for pulling the trigger when he sees him open because of the fact that
• 20:42
  he's it's instinctual, almost almost now you can tell him before the play,
• 20:47
  hey, Josh, let's bleed some clock. And I you know, I
• 20:49
  saw the all twenty two. I see digs on the drag route underneath.
• 20:52
  I understand what that means. He gets that first down. Then they have
• 20:56
  to start. Kansas City does has to start, you know, using their
• 20:57
  timeouts. But the problem is that there's a double advocate. There's a flip
• 21:00
  side to that coin as well, because there's no guarantee that we're gonna give
• 21:03
  to the end zone after that, there's no guarantee that there's not going to
• 21:07
  be a fumble. The bubbles on the ground three times that night, right
• 21:10
  just from us, right like, so it's a crazy situation where you can't
• 21:14
  you can't play armchair quarterback Monday Morning quarterback and say well, this was a
• 21:18
  mistake and this was okay, but this was a mistake. Listen, man,
• 21:21
  It's all happening in split seconds. He didn't expect Deon Dawkins to get
• 21:23
  pushed back into his lap by Chris Jones again, who's an All Pro.
• 21:27
  Have to give credit where credits due, and he still tried to throw it
• 21:30
  off and rip it off, and then obviously the third and nine play,
• 21:33
  you know, was a little bit less than desirable. But DT, I
• 21:37
  just have a real tough time on second and nine getting mad at my all
• 21:40
  world quarterback for seeing a receiver open and not going for it. The most
• 21:45
  important thing and mcdermay one of the few things that he said that I agreed
• 21:48
  with after the game was that, yes, the most important thing there was
• 21:49
  points. You got to go up by the touchdown to force Kansas City to
• 21:53
  force to go for a touchdown on that next drive because there was still time
• 21:56
  on the clock, not just in not just the bills, and this specific
• 22:00
  situation in general, that's one of my biggest pet beats in football is when
• 22:04
  a team scores down and the announcer goes, oh, I hope they didn't
• 22:07
  score too early. Nah, like, screw that that. You gotta score
• 22:11
  like we were, we were down in the game. Yes, you you
• 22:15
  have to score to win the game, no matter what, no, no
• 22:18
  matter what happens. You had to put points on the board to win that
• 22:21
  game. And the fact of like, oh, that's one of my biggest
• 22:25
  pet peaks. Scored too early. Granted, yes, was Pat Mahomes cutting
• 22:30
  us up on defense, of course he was all game long. But after
• 22:34
  the you know, the fake punt Tobacco, I don't even want to talk
• 22:37
  about that tonight. But we get in we get in there, the fumble,
• 22:41
  we get the ball back, We go three and out give them the
• 22:42
  ball. You and me looking around one O four, putting up the one
• 22:47
  one stop. We need one stop, one stop, and we got we
• 22:49
  got the fucking stop, and then we get the ball back in your franchise
• 22:52
  quarterback, you're three, I kept saying three hundred million, you kept correcting
• 22:56
  me to but base the updoors to two fifty has the ball, yeah,
• 23:04
  with a chance to win it in your home stadium in two minutes, Like
• 23:08
  what like that's what you want that's what you need. Like, what else
• 23:11
  do you want is contract before the game and asking them to sign it in
• 23:15
  blood. And we're all from from from one oh four all the way around
• 23:18
  the stadium, all the way around, they're gonna all sign it. Twenty
• 23:21
  four to twenty seven. Josh Allen has the ball after thirty yard line.
• 23:26
  Sure, that's where do I got it? Love it? And yes,
• 23:29
  you had had to score no matter what. I don't even if we eat,
• 23:33
  if he hits Khalishakir and Mahomes gets the ball and they got to drive
• 23:36
  down the field. Well, our coach is the defensive coordinator and he's found
• 23:40
  ways to shut down high profile offenses. Since he's got it here, you
• 23:42
  have to you have to go to bet on that. You have to rest
• 23:45
  on that. You can't say, bleed the clock down and then hopefully you
• 23:48
  score. And so I agree, I mean it would have been. It's
• 23:52
  ideal, but I just don't think it's realistic to always been. But then,
• 23:56
  but but the Bills weren't doing that. The Bills weren't doing that.
• 23:59
  That wasn't the game plan of the play call. The first down play call
• 24:03
  was was the run for no game whatever? Right, so if if it
• 24:07
  was to bleed the clock and move it down, Khalil Shak isn't running a
• 24:11
  post pattern to the end zone. Then another people talking about that's the clear
• 24:15
  out for Diggs and and Josh got greed, not greedy, but he got
• 24:18
  he couldn't help open. Bill Barnwell says that I'm like, couldn't help himself.
• 24:22
  I'm like, we've got to score points. Yeah, this is the
• 24:26
  time. It's going to help himself score a touchdown in the fourth quarter to
• 24:29
  go up in the division championship game. That's ridiculous. And I have friends
• 24:33
  on the other side of the stadium on the tunnel side. I mean he
• 24:37
  was wide open. Of course he's throwing them the ball. Of course he's
• 24:40
  throwing the ball. So I got no qualms with trying to get trying to
• 24:42
  get six. There don't matter what time it is in the clock. You're
• 24:45
  down in the game. You gotta score to win, no matter what you
• 24:49
  have to score to win the game. I'm not taking a chance going So
• 24:52
  what are we gonna do? Run three times, leave the clock and then
• 24:56
  go out there and kick or you know whatever. If that was the read
• 24:59
  and Digs was the readon and he never he should have thrown it there.
• 25:03
  Then then we got another problem. But I don't know qualms to make that
• 25:07
  throw. Nine out of ten times he makes that throw. Like the game
• 25:11
  of inches. We say it's weekend and week out the game of inches.
• 25:14
  The inch was Dion Dawkins getting completely blown into him. He missed it.
• 25:18
  Just it takes a little just flip during because yeah, and that was on
• 25:25
  the line or anything like that, you know, the most critical on the
• 25:27
  line. We are not even talking about any of that. It's a split
• 25:30
  second. It's an inch in an inch you know, cost you a touchdown.
• 25:33
  And then I think it kind of rattled the squad, rattled the team,
• 25:37
  rattled Josh a little bit on third down and it was like, man,
• 25:41
  that touchdown was right there. Touchdown was right there. We could have
• 25:44
  been off that and that could have we could have left it in the defense's
• 25:47
  hands. And then it didn't happen, and they were like, oh,
• 25:49
  we still got to play third down, and I just don't think they were
• 25:52
  ready for that third down. So well, yeah, he scrambled, he
• 25:56
  left the pocket too early on third down, goes to the right, and
• 25:57
  then obviously you want to see him, you know, throw that thing you
• 26:00
  know to somebody not you know, and it falls in completely harmlessly. So
• 26:04
  it's a situation where, you know, yes, I understand how everybody loves
• 26:08
  to play Monday morning quarterback. Everybody's an expert the next day, everybody's got
• 26:12
  the exact way that it should have ended, and things like that, and
• 26:15
  how do you bleed the clock properly and things like that, and well,
• 26:18
  if the first down run didn't get only a yard, then you know what
• 26:22
  it would have afforded listen man second and nine. I loved our chances.
• 26:26
  Yes, I saw Digs on the route, you know, after the game,
• 26:29
  I didn't lie not getting attention to that, but I did see Diggs
• 26:32
  on the all twenty two. I understand the logic behind it. I just
• 26:34
  want everybody to understand and remember that even if Diggs catches that ball in the
• 26:38
  drag route stays in bounds, we start forcing Kansas City to bleed timeouts.
• 26:42
  You still have to get it to the end zone or at worst, it's
• 26:47
  the same exact situation that you send Tyler Bass out there for, and that
• 26:51
  is just to tie the game and to get it into overtime, possibly because
• 26:55
  of the fact that again there was time on the clock. So depending on
• 26:57
  how much time is on the clock when Bass comes out, then you're still
• 27:00
  going to be in a situation that you're dealing with giving Mahomes the ball back,
• 27:03
  still relying on your defense to keep the game tied, and then obviously
• 27:07
  going into overtime, which again starts off with a damn flip of a coin.
• 27:11
  So there's so many different ways that it could have ended. I don't
• 27:15
  want to blame my quarterback for going for the gutso in that respect that I
• 27:18
  don't even think it was that. Yeah, agree, I don't even think
• 27:19
  it was a guts so thing. He saw a guy wide opening the end
• 27:22
  zone and his jobson throw a touchdown, which also also builds mafia as you
• 27:27
  go into this offseason. For whoever wants to ponder over that last two minutes,
• 27:32
  don't forget that that's not thirteen seconds, because thirteen seconds they are forced
• 27:36
  to just to get into field goal range, which was why it was so
• 27:38
  maddening that why McDermott and Fraser were playing the type of defensive posture that they
• 27:44
  were playing with the prevent that was maddening because they didn't need to get to
• 27:47
  the end zone. It was not getting into the goal line to win the
• 27:49
  game. They just needed to get to field goal range. Josh Allen hits
• 27:52
  the Shakiro on that route. It's a four point game, a four point
• 27:56
  lead, which forces Kansas City to drive down the field of score a touchdown.
• 28:00
  Then I you know, I hear people in gr yesterday. Well,
• 28:02
  obviously he had any doubt that Mahomes wid come down score touchdown the way he
• 28:04
  was playing. Yes, I get it, it looked like he was having
• 28:07
  But you don't know. So because you don't know, you just have to
• 28:10
  lead the stuff that you don't know up to that you know up to that,
• 28:12
  like we don't we don't know how it ended. So I I want
• 28:17
  to I want to make sure that it's clear from Nickel City crew as we
• 28:19
  go into the off season that we are not going to ask for everything.
• 28:22
  We're not going to, you know, criticize him when he's he's he's out
• 28:29
  there doing something that we can't do in that respect, he's a professional,
• 28:30
  he's paid, and they're making split, split second decisions. So I can't
• 28:34
  get on my quarterback for that now, I and I do trust him and
• 28:37
  going forward. I do trust him and I thought that he made the right
• 28:40
  call in that particular play on second and ninth, third nine is different and
• 28:44
  whatever happened happened on that one with him rolling out. Now that leads to
• 28:47
  the next part. Bill's Bafia, nicol City Crew. Let's let's be better
• 28:51
  and I and I, you know, somebody said on Twitter that you know,
• 28:53
  it's ninety eight percent of the fans are great, and then this that
• 28:56
  two percent, you know, rotten apples that are ruining for everybody. But
• 29:00
  whoever's out there give a death threats to Tyler back like leave him? Like
• 29:03
  what is like, what's that about? Like, we don't have to be
• 29:04
  that kind of fan base. I watched the double I remember the double doink
• 29:08
  and going on Twitter after the double jink with Chicago or whatever it wasn't at
• 29:11
  Chicago Parky kid. Yeah, and they're talking about you know, kills,
• 29:15
  yeah, yeah, and kill the guy, and I'm just like, what,
• 29:18
  like relax, like everybody relaxed. There's no reason to come at Tyler
• 29:22
  Bass. Yes, he had a horrible year, his worst of the season,
• 29:25
  but we did not once again, we did not lose the game because
• 29:29
  he missed that kick. Had he made the kick, there was plenty of
• 29:32
  time on the clock for Mahomes to come down and try to, you know,
• 29:36
  give them a game winning field goal much like thirteen seconds and win the
• 29:38
  game. There was plenty of time. And even if we go into overtime,
• 29:42
  you know, we don't know what's gonna happen there. He missed the
• 29:45
  kick, you know, obviously was it was really devastating. You know,
• 29:48
  I had my head down. I did not expect them to miss that kick,
• 29:51
  and and it hurt, you know. I mean, it's that's part
• 29:52
  of being sports fan. But all of the personal stuff. I saw video
• 29:56
  going around out there giving Gay Davis shit after the game that I ended up
• 30:00
  driving home to Charlotte and I hear him. He's like, yeah, I'm
• 30:03
  going to test free agency and you know, things like that, and I'm
• 30:04
  just looking at that video, like damn. This could be one of the
• 30:07
  reasons why he definitely wants to go test free agency because his own home fans
• 30:11
  are yelling at him from behind the Bills bench after the game, like the
• 30:15
  game's over, go to your car, like it's over, Like it's what
• 30:18
  are you yelling at at? Gabe Davis? About because he didn't play.
• 30:22
  Oh you're you're weak, you're soft. I heard the guys on that one
• 30:25
  Twitter video all you don't even know how to run a route. Your fat
• 30:26
  ass couldn't run any routes. So like you couldn't even play for the Bubblo
• 30:30
  Bill, So just relax. There has to be some type of there has
• 30:34
  to be some type of acknowledgement that they're that these are people. They're not
• 30:37
  robots, They're not cyboards. And I just wish that you know that all
• 30:41
  fan bases, you know, I talked about that Chicago thing, the Chicago
• 30:44
  Bulls commemoration. I just wish an all fan bases would understand that, Yes,
• 30:48
  we know that you spend your time, your money, you put your
• 30:51
  emotional investment into it, but they are people at the end of the day,
• 30:53
  they are not cyborgs. They deserve respect just like anybody else deserves respect.
• 30:57
  You guys love Michaeh. Hyde. Everybody praises him and his wife yesterday
• 31:00
  when they're giving out, you know, their last final farewells to Bill's mafia
• 31:04
  yesterday with that beautiful piece that his wife wrote up, and like you think
• 31:07
  about all the great times in the celebrity, you know, softball tournament that
• 31:11
  you go down to saleing field and watch and you're having a great time and
• 31:12
  getting autographs and shit going to training camp. So you treat him with respect.
• 31:18
  But because Gig Davis didn't play in the game, you're mad at him
• 31:21
  and he's garbage and you don't know how to run around and you're yelling at
• 31:22
  him and Tyler Bass you wish he died and death like death threats. It's
• 31:26
  a football game. At the end of the days, it's entertainment. We
• 31:30
  always remind people that it's entertainment DT and I hope that builds mafia backs off.
• 31:34
  You know. Again, I know it's a small percentage, but I
• 31:37
  was really disappointed to hear that Bill's bafia was a part of that because I
• 31:41
  normally think that we're not really a part of that kind of nonsense. Sure,
• 31:45
  well said, Well said, And I do believe it is a very
• 31:47
  small percentage. And you know, when granted that not an excuse or anything
• 31:52
  for this, but you know, the wound is still wide open, it's
• 31:56
  still very it's still very prominent that this shit just happen, you know,
• 32:00
  So people are gonna say, people are gonna say some out of out of
• 32:04
  character stuff and whatnot. I'm not making excuses. I'm walking back to the
• 32:07
  car. I can't. I said, I said that like maybe stepped up,
• 32:10
  stepped up like a bitch, and he did and he did, I
• 32:15
  mean, he stepped up and missed that kick like a bitch. There like
• 32:19
  no if and buts about it like that's true, but on Twitter and telling
• 32:22
  him kill himself or you know, I agree, And we talked about it
• 32:25
  in the off season, and you will get into the lad But like with
• 32:29
  the whole gig stuff in the off season and people you know, spouting off
• 32:31
  recklessly, and like these dudes they're humans too. As much as they block
• 32:37
  out the medium, block out the pants, they hear this ship and and
• 32:39
  you know, and like you said, somebody going at Gave Davis. I'm
• 32:44
  debating if Gave Davis should be on this team or not. It's a different
• 32:46
  episode. But the fact that if he was contemplating it and and something like
• 32:51
  that, it's gonna piss them off and move them and then we're screwed and
• 32:53
  can't find another receiver. You know, like you're gonna start seeing the the
• 32:58
  consequences of these actions right, So I agree, chill out, you know,
• 33:02
  just keeping in the house. You know, you you can be frustrated,
• 33:07
  you can be ripe, but yeah, these these are humans and we
• 33:08
  can't get up on them for ship and you know, the pressure they build
• 33:12
  them from going, you know, kind of contradicts what we preach of growing
• 33:15
  up as fandoms and not just being you know, cool with the drought and
• 33:20
  that now we're not bad anymore, so let's just be cool with not being
• 33:22
  bad. But you know, people getting hyper critical of the team when they're
• 33:27
  when we're six and six and you know, and Josh Allen sucks and he
• 33:30
  turns them all over too much, and then the homeboy wills you to the
• 33:32
  to the second scene back. Yeah, everyone, you know, take take
• 33:38
  it back and realize that, you know, take this team. You know
• 33:43
  that it's not just a robotic team that does whatever you need. They're they're
• 33:46
  humans and they're gonna make mistakes, and you know, we we bask when
• 33:51
  they don't make mistakes, and when they get the victories, we're in their
• 33:53
  cheering and you know they're not they're not coming at us for not being as
• 33:57
  loud as we could have on third down or anything like that. You know,
• 34:00
  it works both ways in that regard, but yeah, come on,
• 34:02
  Kim, he stepped up and missed it, but he doesn't deserve to die.
• 34:07
  Let's get break. Yeah, absolutely, now as we wrap upon the
• 34:10
  game and before we go to because I've got a lot of stuff that I
• 34:13
  wanted to get to on yesterday's press conferences. But you know, again,
• 34:15
  the d line was the most was the healthiest unit of DT. That was
• 34:19
  a disappointment to see that they didn't come through you know, two pressures I
• 34:22
  think on Patrick mahonmes obviously no sacks on him, and that was you know,
• 34:24
  that was discouraging because regardless of the fact that you know, everybody wants
• 34:28
  to rip on AJ Klein was there and stuff like that, and you know,
• 34:31
  Tyrol Dods it is not that good at coverage, and we understand all
• 34:35
  of those things, but the defensive line didn't really you know, make any
• 34:37
  type of Hey, and you've got to you know, your plenty of rotation.
• 34:40
  Dayde was there and Ed Oliver was there and AJ Panessa was there.
• 34:45
  Were so played probably the best of it. I mean, I saw Von
• 34:47
  Millard flash on a play or two, but the defensive line really wasn't a
• 34:52
  factor in a game that you really you kind of needed it to be because
• 34:54
  of the way that the back seven was hurt and hampered. He kind of
• 34:58
  needed some type of juice from those guys up front. It didn't come.
• 35:01
  And again I'm not laying blame. I'm just pointing out again that everything was
• 35:05
  not perfect, and you can always find places to late blame, you know,
• 35:08
  it was it was a little bit discouraging to see that the defensive line,
• 35:10
  the healthiest unit on the team besides the offensive line, really didn't have
• 35:14
  their best day even remotely, No, not even close, and a place
• 35:19
  you wanted to really kind of hang your hat on as being okay going into
• 35:22
  that game, and you know it wasn't. But we taught game plan of,
• 35:27
  you know, the game plan of slowing it down, keeping it out
• 35:29
  of Mahomes' hands because our defense was banged up all year, you know,
• 35:34
  and in Sean McDermott's whole career, the first half of game's it always looks
• 35:39
  like we're getting gashed a little, right, It always looks like we're getting
• 35:44
  moved a little, and then they kind of settle in, tighten up,
• 35:45
  and lock it down. That's been the mentality in the mantra the whole time
• 35:50
  in this game. They were never you know, only twenty two minutes of
• 35:52
  them being on the field, they were never in a chance to you know,
• 35:58
  to get into that, Okay, this is what they're doing, let's
• 36:00
  settle in. And I'm not that I know what you say, and that's
• 36:02
  the only reason, but I know it was definitely not a characteristic game game
• 36:07
  plan of the Bills. You know, it's not something they usually do of
• 36:10
  trying to keep another team off the field so aggressively like that. And then
• 36:15
  they did it, and they executed in that. So this defense was kind
• 36:17
  of coming out there, you know, cold in a few times, and
• 36:20
  I don't think they're normal let's settle in and get right. I don't think
• 36:23
  they ever got to that point of being able to settle in because it was
• 36:27
  so banged, banged the whole game. Yeah, And I mean, it
• 36:29
  doesn't help when you know the opposite quarterback is ripping you up and and and
• 36:32
  Mahomes really did rip us up in the secondary, and it was something that
• 36:36
  you know, again you could have expected it, but it was something that
• 36:39
  was still it was shocking. I mean, it's when it's happening in real
• 36:43
  time. It still sucks to be a part of it and watch it.
• 36:45
  So I really don't have much else on the game. DT was a hell
• 36:49
  of a game. It was something else to be a part of it.
• 36:52
  We'll get to the Nicholsony Crew Taiblet report at the end of the show,
• 36:55
  but you know, as we transition, I've got to touch on my favorite
• 37:00
  I think guess we entered the off season, and that's Sean McDermott. You
• 37:04
  know. It's it's funny because when I called him a fraud weeks ago,
• 37:07
  people were like, oh my god, like, you know, you called
• 37:09
  him a fraud, and like are you going to back up that? Like
• 37:12
  are you sticking by that? And like you know, and and I do
• 37:15
  you know? And I stick by it. I will. I gave him
• 37:16
  as flowers. We already have done that, So I'm not here on an
• 37:20
  as kissing contest or anything like that. I've already given the man his flowers.
• 37:22
  For the way that he was more aggressive on defense, I said that
• 37:24
  it was different than what I anticipated coming into the year. I've already admitted
• 37:29
  to that. I admitted to the fact that he held together a patchwork defense
• 37:32
  for much of the second half of the year. I've already talked about that.
• 37:36
  After those London injuries, it seemed like injuries were kind of piling on,
• 37:38
  and then it culminates with that Pittsburgh game. And I've given him as
• 37:42
  flowers for that. If you listened to Sean McDermott, your head coach yesterday
• 37:46
  and that end of the year press conference, somebody like me or people that
• 37:52
  have been kind of looking out for him the entire time, couldn't do anything
• 37:55
  but just sit back and laugh. And this is not a this is not
• 37:59
  a referendum on anything different than what I've already known. Sean McDermott is a
• 38:02
  fraudity proved it yesterday with the press conference. Is because when DT in the
• 38:07
  in the hell, as my father would say, one in the ham sandwich,
• 38:10
  has Sean McDermott ever said that he was a pass to win coach.
• 38:15
  Let that sink in yesterday and and and here's the here's the problem that I
• 38:20
  have with it. Sean McDermott is a professional, So he's a professional head
• 38:23
  coach. He understands that media is a part of his responsibilities. He has
• 38:28
  mastered or you know whatever he's he's good at He's good at number one,
• 38:31
  telling you nothing when he doesn't want to tell you anything. And that's all,
• 38:35
  you know, that's always the coach speak. And let's just try hard,
• 38:37
  and we got to work harder. And everybody's got to pick up their
• 38:39
  lunch pail. YadA, YadA. They got all the different phrases and want
• 38:43
  to let do their one eleventh. And he's got all those phrases down pack.
• 38:46
  He's got to maybe on a little note pad. He's got him ready
• 38:49
  to go. In addition to not telling you anything that he doesn't want you
• 38:52
  to know, he also knows what to say that you want to hear to
• 38:55
  keep he off of his ass. He knows that everybody realizes that twenty twenty
• 39:00
  three going forward, this is a passing league. He understands that. And
• 39:05
  the fact that he brought Andy Reid's name in it, the coach that just
• 39:07
  beat him a couple of days before, was elegant. It was it was
• 39:12
  beautifully done. And all I did was to sit back that was working,
• 39:15
  and I would just sit back there just listening to an earpiece and and I'm
• 39:17
  just laughing at this guy because of the fact that I know what he's doing.
• 39:21
  When have you ever heard him say that he's a pastor win coach?
• 39:23
  DT? When when have you ever heard him say that? I have never
• 39:28
  heard him say that. Not only have I never heard Sean McDermott say that.
• 39:30
  In the beginning of his tenure, it was clear that he was a
• 39:34
  run first coach. It was clear that it was very much Why did I
• 39:37
  always make the comparison the Reck's Ride and Dick durn was because of the fact
• 39:40
  that he was the exact same to me. He liked to stop the run,
• 39:45
  he liked to run the ball, he loves the trenches, and it
• 39:47
  just was funny to me because I don't want Bills Mafia to be fake.
• 39:51
  DT. We've got a long offseason, a lot of stuff's going to be
• 39:54
  said. Listen to how it was right after the season, your head coach
• 39:59
  said he's a pass has to win coach, and I just I I lay
• 40:01
  it at y'all. When have you guys ever heard him say that? I've
• 40:05
  never I've never heard him talk like that. DT. I'm correct me if
• 40:07
  I'm wrong, and I know I did some crazy stuff this morning, like
• 40:10
  pull it up AI and pull it up all of his quotes, and they
• 40:14
  couldn't find I've never heard him talk about that. Never. Never. No.
• 40:17
  I mean the the way we're most critical is when he is talking about
• 40:22
  complimentary football when we have a good pass game and he's like, well,
• 40:25
  you know, we need to run better, and he says stuff like that
• 40:28
  ten ten to one, you know of this or ten to zero like you
• 40:31
  said, he never said anything like this, So I agree. Trying to
• 40:37
  you know, and why is he saying that after a game they ran the
• 40:40
  most other than the Dallas game. I haven't pulled up the exact numbers on
• 40:45
  it, but it seemed like they've ran more Sunday than they did all year.
• 40:51
  Yeah, so I mean two days, two days after you run all
• 40:55
  you know, you run the most that you've ran all year, and then
• 41:00
  they were the most run heavy team after they switched to Joe Brady DT.
• 41:04
  That's what I want, That's what I want. Bills Maffia shout out,
• 41:06
  Adam Floe. I see what you're saying, Adam, and maybe he is
• 41:08
  learning his lesson. I don't agree that he's learning his lesson because of the
• 41:12
  fact that he has always been this. He has always been a defensive first
• 41:17
  run offense coach. He loves that type of thing. He backed into Josh
• 41:22
  Allen. In my opinion, he backed into Josh Allen. He did not
• 41:24
  expect Josh Allen to be this freak athlete. He did not expect Josh Allen
• 41:29
  to be this crazy on the cover of Madden Quarterback that you see here behind
• 41:32
  me. He didn't know that that was coming. He was just finished coaching
• 41:36
  Tyrod Taylor and getting a team with a minus fifty six or fifty eight point
• 41:39
  differential to the playoffs. Like he already he's already shown what he likes to
• 41:44
  do. So I just I just call bullshit on it because of the fact
• 41:46
  that I think it's as easy, it's convenient. He knows what we want
• 41:51
  to hear. He knows that we know it's a passing league. He knows
• 41:53
  that we don't add up to a lot of those passing teams. And I
• 41:57
  feel like that, you know, because we're devoid of weapons and we know
• 41:59
  that. And I just think like he's wanting to keep everybody at bay.
• 42:02
  He wants everybody off of his as TT. That's that's all I think he's
• 42:05
  concerned about, is making sure that everybody understands that. Hey, listen,
• 42:07
  don't blame me, because what did he talk about right before making that statement?
• 42:10
  I've been to the playoffs six. He always wants to let you know
• 42:14
  his accomplishments because he you know, he wants that support. Yeah, and
• 42:19
  what what has he learned? You know, going on Adams Colin just there?
• 42:22
  What like, what has he learned? He goes for it on some
• 42:24
  four towns. Now, yeah, he didn't used to. He you know,
• 42:29
  he's a little closer. He doesn't lose games more than seven points.
• 42:32
  Like, what has he learned? But what is all any of that matter?
• 42:36
  When we acxit in the divisional round for you know, the third straight
• 42:38
  year. So that's like the point of you know, it goes back to
• 42:43
  the definition of insanity of you know, doing the same thing over and over
• 42:45
  again. Like, yes, has he done some things differently, Sure,
• 42:49
  he gave us our point, but as our point, it's still the same.
• 42:53
  Overall. Are you out there and try don't get up there and try
• 42:58
  to be ask me that you're you know, a pass happy guy when you
• 43:00
  know the past three years, all you've been doing is bringing in a specific
• 43:04
  running back set and this brings and and you know and draft and defense and
• 43:10
  not caring. We got Stefan Diggs were good, not caring at all about
• 43:15
  your your one sinner generational quarterback and what he has to deal with. So
• 43:19
  yes, I guess I agree the people in the back of the room.
• 43:22
  Yes, Nico City and Nico City and Bill's Mafia. Listen to Rob right
• 43:27
  there, that's a that's a great point of you know, the man likes
• 43:30
  to say what we want to hear and make it okay. But in reality,
• 43:36
  what's you know? What's Watch my actions? I can I can fool
• 43:39
  you, I can listen. I can talk with the best of them.
• 43:42
  I'm I'm a slick talker. I can talk with the best of them.
• 43:45
  Watch my moves. How do I operate? Watch my actions? What do
• 43:49
  I do? Where do I spend my time? Different things like that.
• 43:52
  You know, I love my kings, you know what I mean? I
• 43:53
  love them? So what do I do? I put my money where my
• 43:55
  mouth is. Let's let's I want to be a part of them growing up
• 43:59
  in sports, and what do I do well? The best way to be
• 44:00
  a part of them in sports is to coach their teams and to be right
• 44:02
  by them or assistant coach their team, things like that. I want to
• 44:06
  see them grow, you know, athletically, things like that. So like
• 44:08
  that's watched by actions, the actions of Sean McDermott and the amount of assets
• 44:15
  that he has poured into his defensive line, which we just talked about,
• 44:16
  came up blame on Sunday, the healthiest unit on the field. Besides the
• 44:21
  offensive line doesn't exist. That doesn't exist. We talk about the uh,
• 44:27
  let's see you know, Damian Harris, and then the year before that,
• 44:30
  it's you know, you know, all these all these running backs every year
• 44:34
  just to because he's looking for a different element. Now, you guys could
• 44:36
  be notive enough to blame that on the offensive approach, and I just don't.
• 44:39
  McDermott has his hands all in this team. He's got his hands on
• 44:43
  the draft, he's got he's he was hired before Brandon Bean. Somebody asked
• 44:46
  the WGR just brainded Bean have the authority to fire, to fire McDermott,
• 44:51
  And I almost fell off the road, like what like seriously, listen,
• 44:55
  McDermott is so well respected by the Pagoulas that again, that's why we had
• 45:00
  that episode. Who we're asking Dad, will he pull over the car,
• 45:02
  like we had an episode all dedicated to Dad, will you pull over the
• 45:07
  car because we're screaming in the back and that's the only way that we can
• 45:09
  get your attention. So at this point in time, I just I feel
• 45:14
  like I'm worried about the fact that he is so involved, he has so
• 45:19
  much power in the organization that again, until Terry Pagoula sees it differently than
• 45:24
  he sees it, now, I think we're in for a lot of it.
• 45:28
  Now, does that mean that we cannot win a Super Bowl? No,
• 45:30
  it doesn't mean that the stars can align and we can get it done.
• 45:35
  But I do know that this guy fired his offensive coordinator after twelve men
• 45:38
  on the field on a special teams play and in a game that we had
• 45:43
  actually scored a few points with the case may be, and then we've become
• 45:46
  the run heaviest team in the league. Now, if you say that it
• 45:49
  has nothing to do with Chean mcdermouth, and I just feel like you're choosing
• 45:52
  to believe that because Joe Brady was not a run heavy coordinator in Carolina.
• 45:55
  He was not a run heavy coordinator for the Yellsu Tigers would consider the greatest
• 46:00
  college football team of all Time with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson.
• 46:05
  So that's not his mo is to run the ball till you're blue in
• 46:07
  the face. Why did we do it against Dallas? Because it was working
• 46:09
  and because they had light men in the box with two hundred pound linebackers,
• 46:13
  so they started to power it down their throat. And have no problem with
• 46:15
  that because of the fact that we scored thirty one points. But that's not
• 46:17
  the identity. The team is not a base team. The identity shifted for
• 46:22
  that team, and because of the fact that they won. You couldn't say
• 46:24
  shit other than the fact that, hey man, you're winning close games against
• 46:28
  the Chargers, winning close games against the Patriots. You win all these squeakers
• 46:30
  against teams that you would normally blow out. But it doesn't matter because it's
• 46:35
  a results based business. We got the results. They got those six straight
• 46:38
  wins, five straight wins to get into the playoffs, and everybody was okay
• 46:43
  with everything. And I understand that. I hope Joe Brady's back. I
• 46:45
  hope they do interview some other guys to get some other perspectives DT on what
• 46:49
  some other guy offensive mines have to think out there. But if he comes
• 46:52
  back, I wanted to be his offense, and I just the offensive shift
• 46:55
  after Joe Brady came under into his position. I just I I just have
• 47:01
  a tough time believing that McDermott wasn't a part of it the same way that
• 47:05
  I knew. And I just I could do nothing but laugh when he said
• 47:07
  that I cut my teeth around Andy Reid, you pass to win, And
• 47:10
  I just I call bullshit because I he has never even been that kind of
• 47:15
  coaching never. He doesn't even talk like that. I mean, it didn't
• 47:17
  even sound like him up there. And I was just like, dude,
• 47:20
  I'm I'm I'm on. I just I'm on to him. I'm sorry,
• 47:22
  DT, I'm on to him after after a game he ran the whole game.
• 47:25
  And you know, no, I agree, but or or if those
• 47:29
  passes behind the line of scriptage, you know what I mean? And and
• 47:30
  and Joe Dibiassi and d g R you know part of a great point that
• 47:35
  maybe it's because they knew that they don't have the weapons, so and and
• 47:37
  I'll I'll listen to that. Sherfield's a special teamer. You know, Hardy
• 47:42
  barely sees the field. I'll listen to some of that type of stuff.
• 47:44
  Stefan Diggs production fell off a cliff for whatever reason. I don't think he
• 47:47
  was hurt. I've heard many people that said he was not hurt, so
• 47:50
  I don't know where that comes from. But it's it's a couple of years
• 47:52
  now that that's been happening, and that's concerning. But I just don't want
• 47:55
  to uh, I just don't want to let him get away with it.
• 47:58
  I'm sorry, I I I mean, you know, I've got something for
• 48:00
  mcdermry. I I'm not getting's and that's fair, and that's fair. But
• 48:02
  the reality is it's probably you know, Dad's not pulling the car over,
• 48:07
  you know, as much as besides, oh no, could it be a
• 48:08
  reality? Maybe? Is it now? Hell no, stay at least at
• 48:15
  least another year. So we have to be realistic and on the other side
• 48:19
  of you know, insanity doing things over and over and expecting the same result.
• 48:22
  We can't just hear him bitch that, you know. He yeah,
• 48:25
  he's he's fooling us. He's fooling us. But he's still the coach of
• 48:29
  this team and we're still gonna have to find a way to win with him.
• 48:30
  So oh no, I agree, Yeah, No, I was just
• 48:34
  I wasn't doing it. I'm giving my PSA for Bill's Mafia for Nicol City
• 48:37
  Crews. Heading into the off season, Dad is not listening. This is
• 48:40
  the coach and he is going to be the coach. Now. I start
• 48:44
  to wonder if there's another repeat next year DT and it's the same round or
• 48:47
  something like that will But again, we already talked about that episode at length.
• 48:52
  It's going to take somebody very very close to Terry and Kimp Paula to
• 48:57
  bring this to their attention. Is is it realistic to think that Randon Bean
• 49:00
  is going to, you know, stab in the back of the own his
• 49:04
  own head coach, you know, and go to go to the poolas and
• 49:06
  say, man, I you know, I love him, but Sean's not
• 49:07
  getting this job done. We got to think about get bringing to somebody else
• 49:10
  and that I just don't I don't think that that's realistic. I think it's
• 49:14
  gonna take somebody that's higher up, a family member, another executive around the
• 49:19
  league, somebody that is close to Terry and Kim to bring him to a
• 49:22
  realization that enough is enough and and it's definitely not happening this year, and
• 49:27
  we'll see what what what twenty four brings. So I wasn't to say that
• 49:30
  fire fired everybody. So organization. He is the organization. So that's gonna
• 49:37
  make it even harder for that to have. So absolutely well, as we
• 49:40
  as we begin to wrap up a little bit, you know, I I
• 49:43
  I didn't know how long this episode would go or anything like that. So
• 49:45
  we appreciate Nichol City crew being in here, Adam Foley and all the rest
• 49:50
  of the guys being in here. Scott, we appreciate you guys interacting with
• 49:52
  us as well. You know, it's funny because I just say, you
• 49:55
  know, wake me up in September now, Uh, you know, the
• 49:58
  draft is the draft, all that other stuff. I still expect, you
• 50:01
  know, them to address their needs. They're gonna draft a defensive player,
• 50:05
  hopefully not in around one, but it's gonna happen because they've got, you
• 50:07
  know, a few holes to field, especially if the safeties are going out.
• 50:10
  You already talked about the defensive line DT one thing that I definitely don't
• 50:15
  want to do for sure, and it was something that I heard from from
• 50:20
  my show to be honest, and I'm gonna writ I'm gonna write him I'm
• 50:22
  not a coward, So I'm gonna write them on Twitter after this. I'm
• 50:24
  not just gonna blast about my show. And did not give him a chance
• 50:28
  to defend himself. But he had said something the other day that really bothered
• 50:30
  me, to be honest, et he had said that a reasonable fan could
• 50:35
  say that when Stefan made this gesture with the disclose, that a reasonable fan
• 50:38
  could wonder if he wants to be there anymore. And I don't even know
• 50:43
  where you make that leap from. And I would just I would love for
• 50:45
  Billsbofia not to get on Stephan Diggs this offseason. Last offseason was draining because
• 50:51
  of the drama. It was draining because of all of the things that we
• 50:53
  were talking about. This band. Three time captain now, okay, so
• 50:58
  three times voted by his peers, not by us, not by Nicol City
• 51:00
  Crew, not by Bill's Boffia, not by anybody, by the people that
• 51:04
  go to work with him. Okay, So this is three years running now
• 51:07
  that they say you can lead us, you can lead us, you can
• 51:09
  be a part of the leadership group because we trust you. The fact that
• 51:13
  somebody can think that this meant f you to Josh or I don't want to
• 51:16
  be in Buffalo anymore. I really think that you're stretching and I'm starting to
• 51:21
  question if you have something against Stephan Diggs. And I'm being honest. I'm
• 51:25
  being honest. DT. You could correct me if I'm wrong, But how
• 51:29
  you get this? This means this close is exactly what it means. It
• 51:31
  doesn't mean Josh throw it a little bit better. It went through his fucking
• 51:35
  hands. So if it went through his arms, then obviously he couldn't be
• 51:37
  asking for a better throw. Please, Bill's Mafia, Nickel City crew,
• 51:40
  don't get on this guy this offseason because you don't understand him or he's misunderstand
• 51:45
  We did the Miseducation episode. Stefan Diggs wants to win badly. It's almost
• 51:51
  like a Jordan obsession or Kobe obsession. He wants to win really, really
• 51:54
  bad. When he came back to OTA's, he told you as such.
• 52:00
  He said it was like pushing the ball up a hill and then it rolls
• 52:02
  back down. How he felt with the playoff exits, He's already told you.
• 52:07
  They asked her, well, do you want to be an offensive counter.
• 52:08
  Are you mad at Dorsey? He said, I would be an idiot
• 52:12
  to try to call plays. I'm a wide receiver. I don't call plays.
• 52:15
  I believed him. Call me stupid, I believed him. I don't
• 52:19
  want the offseason to be more Diggs drama that is manufactured by us. We're
• 52:23
  looking for something to talk about, and then we manufacture bullshit that does not
• 52:28
  even exist. I believe that Stefan Diggs has been the single most important reason
• 52:35
  to Josh Allen's elevation period DT. I think he is the number one reason
• 52:38
  why our quarterback ascended. No, obviously, Josh Allen's got to go to
• 52:42
  work. He's got to do his offseason work with Jordan Palmer. He has
• 52:45
  to put in the work. He's got to be a professional. However,
• 52:47
  after that, when it comes to on the field stuff, DT, there
• 52:52
  is no bigger impact on Josh Allen's ascension than Stefan Diggs. Josh Allen knows
• 52:57
  it. I know. They always love to tell us that they love each
• 52:59
  otheryada, YadA, YadA. We have no idea how much they really love
• 53:01
  each other. We have no idea how much they really hang out. Stephan
• 53:05
  Diggs is more of a fashion guy. He doesn't hang out in Buffalo,
• 53:07
  nor does Josh Allen ready to hang out in Buffalo on the off season.
• 53:08
  We have no idea their interactions during the off season. Let's stop trying to
• 53:14
  dissect everything that he means or this and what is it. I almost just
• 53:19
  I fell almost out of my seat when I heard Mike Show because this guy
• 53:22
  is on the number one radio station in Western New York sports talk, and
• 53:25
  he says a reasonable person would think that this meant that he doesn't want to
• 53:29
  be here anymore. And I just completely offended, completely off base. I
• 53:35
  just don't agree at all. And I'm hoping that Bill's bofia this this spring
• 53:38
  summer. Give the guy a break. Let's not try to create something because
• 53:43
  last year was really annoying DT. It was it was like tiring to like,
• 53:46
  you know, what is he tweeting and this and that, and it
• 53:50
  was just I had so much of it. I had too much. Y
• 53:52
  Well, but the fact of you know, the Buffalo media and the media
• 53:57
  in general itself, excluding us, I think, is you know, unfairly
• 54:02
  has the spotlight on him for the veg And yeah, I don't think,
• 54:06
  Yeah, and and it's just the fact of all, what's he gonna do?
• 54:08
  Is he gonna blow up next? And the game the I think it
• 54:12
  was the Eagles game. They kept showing him on the sideline, waiting for
• 54:17
  him to blow up, and every time they showed him, he's there helping,
• 54:22
  getting teammates going, helping teammates up. And I think producers at that
• 54:24
  game were probably like, oh, Ship, Like, he's not he's not
• 54:28
  yelling at somebody, He's not yelling at something. Look, he's being a
• 54:31
  good teammate. And that was the the first day he missed that ot A
• 54:37
  and five point fifty was all over it. And can sit here and say
• 54:43
  it's my job to report he wasn't at OTAs And it's like, no,
• 54:46
  you came in and poured the gas on that fire, and you guys watched
• 54:50
  it burn and said, oh, but it was So I agree, there's
• 54:53
  a lot of There is a part of the fan base and definitely the media
• 54:58
  that that wants wants him to be the villain and and he's showing he hasn't.
• 55:02
  But on the reverse end of this, Rob you gotta make plays,
• 55:07
  man, you gotta make plays. Horrible drop, horrible drop, horrible drop.
• 55:13
  I'm not even sounding yes, that's that's a big one. But second
• 55:16
  part of the season, the productive, the targets are still there, everything's
• 55:20
  still there. There's probably other factors. Was just him, It wasn't just
• 55:23
  him, But you gotta make plays like you gotta, you know, Randy
• 55:28
  Moss didn't stop making plays. Drell Owens didn't stop making plays like you gotta
• 55:32
  keep making plays. And then the game where a team where you've disappeared in
• 55:38
  the past against the Chiefs and a chance to really blow it out, and
• 55:45
  that catch would have, you know, took the non existent roof off the
• 55:50
  stadium that will never see in a bill stadium a roof. They took the
• 55:53
  non extendent roof off and probably would have won us a game if it comes
• 55:57
  down and catch that ball Wednesday, and that's what you're talking talking about the
• 56:00
  inches of you know, from from last year and pushing that the ball up
• 56:05
  the hill and then falling falling back down, that was your chance to kind
• 56:07
  of push it over that at least hold it on the top. Right,
• 56:12
  They don't know if it's gonna go over, but at least hold it off
• 56:14
  the top and it's not coming down yet and you didn't execute, So you
• 56:19
  deserve to be criticized for that, But you don't deserve to be criticized to
• 56:22
  be a bad teammate. You want out, And all these reports a report
• 56:24
  that Stephan Diggs doesn't isn't asking for a trade? Who said he was asking
• 56:29
  for a fucking trade? It doesn't make any sense to me. I listen,
• 56:31
  I'm fair. I have no problem. When do you want to break
• 56:34
  down steph on Diggs's you know, production drop off? You want to break
• 56:37
  down his play? You want to break down that Kansas City game? We
• 56:39
  can do that. That's that's on the field stuff. I don't have mine,
• 56:43
  you know, doing that. I just don't like the attacks on the
• 56:45
  character because I do you think he's a fool? Do you think his agent's
• 56:47
  a fool if he know if Brandon Bee knows that the debt CAAP is over
• 56:52
  thirty fucking million dollars and we can't get rid of him, you know at
• 56:54
  least this, you know, coming into twenty twenty four. Do you think
• 56:58
  that him and his agent our dummies as well? You think that they don't
• 57:00
  know that the bills can't cut him either? So because of that, like
• 57:04
  it. It behooves him to get along, It behooves him to make sure.
• 57:08
  Excuse me in this to the fact that we don't know that he doesn't
• 57:12
  want to be here. Yeah, because he's voiced anything like that. And
• 57:15
  this is what the grades that we went through last year. I just don't
• 57:17
  want another it. I just don't want to critical. You can be critical
• 57:22
  of his play on the field, and he didn't step up when he needed
• 57:24
  to, Okay, but the character bullshit and just waiting for him to fuck
• 57:30
  up. I'm done with and I won't have any time for that this year.
• 57:32
  Yeah, three captains, So thank you for at least geting on that.
• 57:36
  I have no I have anybody want to, you know, get back
• 57:37
  be on Twitter and talk about, oh, he missed the PA Like,
• 57:40
  listen, that's that's totally fine. That's on the field stuff. He should
• 57:43
  have made the catch. Does do we know that he's gonna we're gonna win
• 57:45
  the game if he makes that catch. No, he could have fallen after
• 57:47
  he got it. After he got that catch. It doesn't matter. It's
• 57:51
  about the fact that we need You know, you're getting paid a ton of
• 57:52
  money and and that's a part of your job description. Is to catch the
• 57:55
  football, So we need you to make plays period. It stops there.
• 57:59
  That's the same thing about Tyler pass. You're paid to go up there and
• 58:01
  make that kick in the wind, in the squirrel, if it's towards the
• 58:06
  you know, the the tunnel, or if it's the other way to forward
• 58:08
  to the scoreboard, you're paid to make the kick. And we understand that.
• 58:10
  I don't mind criticizing players on the field. I mind when it starts
• 58:15
  to attack their personal character. And in my case, in my opinion,
• 58:19
  excuse me, Stephan Diggs has been nothing but a monl t bate. He
• 58:22
  has elevated the most important player on the team, Josh Allen, and he's
• 58:25
  made him into that superstar in respect. Again, Josh had to put in
• 58:29
  the work as well. Anytime I say that, people are like, well,
• 58:30
  Josh had to do the work too, No shit, Like, I
• 58:32
  understand that Josh had to still be a professional and care about his craft.
• 58:37
  But don't tell me that Stephan Diggs doesn't care about his craft. And stop
• 58:38
  telling me that he doesn't want to be a buffalo bill when nothing has even
• 58:44
  remotely been reported or come out of his mouth of the other way. So
• 58:47
  you know, I just don't want it to be a whole offseason of that
• 58:51
  bullshit as well. But Nicol City Crew tail Gate Report as we can begin
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• 59:12
  DT. It was an I mean, it just it adds to the
• 59:15
  exhaustion. That's why the episode of the way that I did, because everything
• 59:19
  couldn't have been more perfect, DT, I mean, I mean honestly couldn't
• 59:22
  have been. Like, everything couldn't have been more perfect leading up to it
• 59:24
  if you didn't know DT, and I got a chance, if you didn't
• 59:28
  check out our Instagram, but we got a chance to get back together.
• 59:30
  Uh, the Brotherhood was back together for this big game, and it was
• 59:35
  awesome. You know. I came up on Saturday. I got there the
• 59:37
  afternoon and my plan was to go make you know, a couple of rounds
• 59:40
  and stuff like that and see some people for a little bit. And what
• 59:45
  happened was. I dropped off the turkey and and got that thing shot up,
• 59:49
  and then all of a sudden, I sat on DT's couch and I
• 59:52
  just I guess DT's right, man, I must be getting older, because
• 59:55
  I don't know. That road just hit me a little bit harder. And
• 59:59
  I laid down, maybe sometime before that San Francisco get got started DT,
• 1:00:02
  and then all of a sudden, I was, I was out for a
• 1:00:05
  few hours, man. I didn't get a chance to even run around Buffalo
• 1:00:07
  and check out a lot of people. I I slept, man, I
• 1:00:09
  was, I was tired. That's that's all right. You know the batch
• 1:00:14
  pad, the batch pad is is comfortable, and uh yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:16
  so I'm glad. You know, it was comfortable enough for you know,
• 1:00:21
  long day we got We got the turkey shot up and yeah you've been big
• 1:00:23
  girl, yep, yep, and that really could and yeah, it was.
• 1:00:28
  It was good to get it rolling and just prepared, you know.
• 1:00:30
  We we knew it was going to be a big day Sunday. Had to
• 1:00:31
  get all our clothes in order, had to get the layers set out and
• 1:00:35
  ready. And I liked that it was you know, we were just chilling
• 1:00:37
  in that regard to to to be prep for for game there. Yeah,
• 1:00:42
  man, absolutely. So next day Sunday morning comes and uh, we're up
• 1:00:45
  and at him early in the morning. You know, we knew that we
• 1:00:47
  were going to get out there too too early because of the fact that of
• 1:00:51
  the six thirty kicking and DT brought it to my attention to that BROB like,
• 1:00:53
  if we're going to get to the stadium in like nine or something like
• 1:00:55
  in the morning, that's like coming into the stadium at like five in the
• 1:00:58
  morning before the boarding. It was crazy. Yeah, did the perverse math
• 1:01:02
  on the six thirty start? I was like, oh, holy shit,
• 1:01:04
  Yeah, I guess we can't go get breakfast. So it's funny because we
• 1:01:07
  were waiting on Big Ben and those guys to get there. So we head
• 1:01:09
  over the Pancake House, my favorite. This is the number one place I
• 1:01:13
  missed. I wish I could franchise it down here at Charlotte because I know
• 1:01:15
  it would be a hit. I love the pancake House. And we went
• 1:01:19
  to Pancake House. It was full of Bill's mafia that morning. I think
• 1:01:21
  we saw a table that was like thirty people deep in the middle of the
• 1:01:23
  restaurant, open the door there at the Orchard Park location, and it was
• 1:01:28
  really nice. Man, everybody was smiling. We saw Waiter at his mafia
• 1:01:32
  Zuba's Yeah, you're like one of those nights off. I was like,
• 1:01:37
  we told them. I told him like like like your shirt mad He said
• 1:01:39
  it was a gift. He said, it's one of his Yeah, prize
• 1:01:44
  possession. So that was really cool. Breakfast went well, and we got
• 1:01:47
  to the stadium. Literally couldn't even have planned it any better if we tried
• 1:01:51
  to. We literally got there the exact same time as our tailgate crew.
• 1:01:53
  So shout out to Big Ben and a K fanel out there and uh,
• 1:01:58
  we were ready to go, Mike. We were all out there. We
• 1:02:00
  were ready to go. And what time the quarter quarter of eleven. We
• 1:02:05
  pulled in quarter of eleven. The sun, some was out beautiful Sunday morning.
• 1:02:09
  I mean that it was. It was brisk. Don't get us wrong,
• 1:02:12
  but you know that that sun. That son helped out a lot.
• 1:02:15
  Yeah, and we got set up pretty quick and and we were one of
• 1:02:19
  the first people in the lot. We kind of watched it fill in again.
• 1:02:22
  We beat the parking a lot of tendants, you know, to to
• 1:02:24
  the stadium. Lot they had to come around and collect and it went up
• 1:02:30
  sixty bucks. They went up ten bucks in playoffs. This is extra,
• 1:02:32
  this is free money. This has found money for them. They're gonna run
• 1:02:36
  us up ten bucks. Come on, we'll bring that up to the board
• 1:02:39
  at the board meeting. But yeah, yeah, it was. It was
• 1:02:43
  a beautiful day. We had a beautiful set up. You know, the
• 1:02:45
  club down in the corner as we like to call it, had three tenths,
• 1:02:49
  you know, the fires going for more. They had the field goal
• 1:02:52
  post, had the drinking games table and you know in big brand with the
• 1:02:55
  with the speakers, got it set up, they got it going. Yeah,
• 1:02:59
  we were. We were one of the first people in there, and
• 1:03:00
  you know, had a nice set up, established herself in that corner and
• 1:03:05
  and yeah, it was great man, you know, And and you know
• 1:03:08
  it's it's funny because you know, for much of the drought. You know,
• 1:03:13
  so I've been a season ticket over since two thousand and nine. I
• 1:03:15
  only skipped when my Kings were born. I I the tailgate during the drought
• 1:03:21
  was the event, you know, because you knew that you were getting ready
• 1:03:22
  to walk into the stadium, and you know what I mean, it probably
• 1:03:25
  wasn't gonna work out. Now I could admit that I would have optimism and
• 1:03:30
  I'd get up for the Tom Brady games and like, Okay, this is
• 1:03:31
  the full stuff, and you could hype yourself up. The best thing about
• 1:03:38
  the Tailgates now is the marriage between the tailgate traditions that we already have and
• 1:03:44
  a great team that makes it just so like lovely. I walked that stadium
• 1:03:49
  just feeling so great. I was grateful for the opportunity to get this done.
• 1:03:52
  We had asked for it, like we We've always talked about that.
• 1:03:54
  We asked for Pat Mahomes to get on the plane, and you know,
• 1:03:58
  somebody had said, I said, you know, wonder I wonder how they
• 1:04:00
  were and what time they got in last night. And you know, somebody
• 1:04:01
  said, I hope we had our fucking horrible night to sleep. And it's
• 1:04:04
  just funny to think about that type of stuff because we did. We asked
• 1:04:06
  for it. I will say, d T you know, Bill's bafia.
• 1:04:10
  We stood up and we did our part. I lost my voice. I
• 1:04:13
  mean I did everything I could do. I was not just on third down.
• 1:04:15
  I was banging the seats on first and second down too. Now,
• 1:04:17
  It is deflating when they're getting twenty yard chunk plays and ten and fifteen yard
• 1:04:21
  chunk plays all the time, and you know they're running through us like Hot
• 1:04:25
  Knight through butter. But I mean the mafia itself. From the start of
• 1:04:28
  the game, we were into it. It was everything that we anticipated it
• 1:04:30
  would be, and it was I think that that's the best thing about those
• 1:04:33
  tailcas is now I don't have to watch a crappy team when we walk into
• 1:04:36
  the stadiumtt the marriage between the tailgate traditions and a great team, it is
• 1:04:42
  a match making that happen. It makes Bill stoffa unique because the table smashing
• 1:04:46
  and the fires were born out of the drought. It wasn't because you know,
• 1:04:49
  they weren't doing that shit back in the nineties with my dad was going
• 1:04:53
  to the games and stuff like that. I was five six, seven eight
• 1:04:55
  for the Super bowlrun. That stuff wasn't happening. They didn't need any type
• 1:04:58
  of extracurricular ertainment because the team was so damn good at Jim Kelly is getting
• 1:05:01
  ready to throw this, Andre Reid and Therma's gonna run all over you,
• 1:05:04
  and Bruce is gonna sack your quarterback and things like that. So it's funny
• 1:05:09
  because the fact that the marriage between a great team and stuff like that,
• 1:05:12
  with the tailgate traditions. I I do love it and and I will miss
• 1:05:15
  it if I don't come back, because I I love that. I agree.
• 1:05:19
  I agree, you know what I mean, friends we've made. I
• 1:05:20
  mean the friends we've made, and for example, you and I, Man,
• 1:05:24
  you and I, you know, directly derived from you know, from
• 1:05:30
  this tailgate and the team we have out there, you know, and I
• 1:05:32
  get together with most of the crew you know in the off season as well,
• 1:05:36
  and and look forward to it. And it's it's lifelong, you know,
• 1:05:40
  friendships and togetherness, and yeah, it was. It was a good
• 1:05:44
  day Sunday that the bird, I man, Nickel City. I'm gonna be
• 1:05:47
  truthful with you. At the end of that tailgate, I'm trying to get
• 1:05:50
  back and recollect. I think I lost it for a while there, Ron
• 1:05:55
  I was. I did nothing that that game because the last hour it was
• 1:06:00
  just dark. All of a sudden, it was just dark and we were
• 1:06:02
  in the game, and I don't really remember how we how the turkey was,
• 1:06:05
  how we got it was great up, it was great. Happen.
• 1:06:12
  Yeah, we did a honey We did a honeyteery at your house the day
• 1:06:15
  before and and yeah it turned out great, you know, three minutes of
• 1:06:19
  pound. It was a big one that I usually don't cook birds over twenty
• 1:06:23
  pounds, but it was playoffs. It was my homes We called the Remember
• 1:06:26
  we called the bird Patty, So we had Patty ready to go. She
• 1:06:29
  was a twenty one pounder and uh we if she turned out perfect. You
• 1:06:31
  know, the skin was nice and crispy. The inside you brought your knife
• 1:06:34
  for me. Inside, I mean, juice is just flowing right out of
• 1:06:38
  it. So it was really great. Everybody seemed to enjoy it. Shout
• 1:06:41
  out again to Kayla and and k They brought you know, chicken wing dip.
• 1:06:45
  There was chicken wing soup. Chicken wing dip soup. I had never
• 1:06:46
  had that before. Like potatoes in there, potatoes. That was good.
• 1:06:49
  And uh yeah, shout out to uh my friend Ashlan. Yes, Chris
• 1:06:55
  brother Nick came up from the two of those first first Bills game with a
• 1:07:00
  good one to start at and they were out there getting getting after it with
• 1:07:02
  us and enjoying the time. They brought Elly's corners wings that that were great.
• 1:07:06
  Yes, family, the family, and we missed uh we missed our
• 1:07:11
  boy Noah baby coming coming soon. And all his brothers were there and they
• 1:07:20
  yeah, they look exactly like Yes, I do remember shout out so good
• 1:07:26
  people all around us. Man. Yeah, I mean, you know,
• 1:07:28
  it was a great season. It was a great tail give. You know
• 1:07:31
  again, I didn't get a chance to get up to as many games as
• 1:07:33
  I wanted to this year because that that was just life and stuff going on
• 1:07:36
  down here with the Kings and you know, YadA YadA YadA, So that
• 1:07:40
  just such as life. But you know, again, the Bills already had
• 1:07:43
  my money, so I had already invested. So you know, we invest
• 1:07:45
  a lot into the Buffalo Bills. They're part of our life, our lives,
• 1:07:47
  they are part of our families. You know. It broke my heart.
• 1:07:50
  You know, I anticipated that they would cry because he he, I
• 1:07:55
  mean, he cried in the regular season one time this year, and I
• 1:07:57
  was like, hey, cut that ship out. You can only cry in
• 1:07:59
  the playoffs. I'm like, we have you know whatever, it was,
• 1:08:00
  twelve thirteen games left. I'm like, don't do that. Not playoff,
• 1:08:03
  not regular season. You'll you'll drive yourself insane if you're going to be ready
• 1:08:09
  to be on the edge of your seat and cry every week. So just
• 1:08:11
  just relax, pace yourself. Let's wait to the playoffs. And unfortunately,
• 1:08:14
  I talked to his mother and she said he cried like a baby, you
• 1:08:16
  know, after that Kansas City loss and stuff like that. So you know,
• 1:08:19
  it's tough because you know, I feel like, you know, partially
• 1:08:23
  responsible. I've created Bill's monsters of you know, even my youngest, Quincy's,
• 1:08:27
  who's about to be five this summery. He was not crying, but
• 1:08:30
  he was right there with Nate watching the game. They were all watching it
• 1:08:32
  together on Sunday with their mothers. And it was funny just to hear,
• 1:08:36
  because you know, not funny, but you know, I know what Nate's
• 1:08:39
  like, and he wears his emotions on his sleeve, just like his father.
• 1:08:43
  And another reason why I do think, you know, I might want
• 1:08:45
  to just be with him next year, just enjoy a season with him,
• 1:08:48
  you know, enjoy season watching it with him and Quincy and Bobby checks in
• 1:08:53
  every now and then on the game and stuff like that, and see what
• 1:08:55
  the score is. But it's a lot, dt it's a lot and I
• 1:08:59
  and even for people in West New York, you know, I mean going
• 1:09:00
  out. I mean I heard some people were in traffic for two three hours.
• 1:09:03
  Now we've got we've mastered our exit planing, so don't don't give them
• 1:09:08
  back giving it away. But we've mastered our exit plan from the stadium.
• 1:09:12
  But like you know, you think about if you even if you came at
• 1:09:15
  twelve o'clock, or even if you came at four o'clock, four o'clock,
• 1:09:17
  can come you take me for a few hours. You go into the game,
• 1:09:19
  and then you don't get home for two hours after the game's over,
• 1:09:23
  after a three and a half hour game. It's it's a lot, it's
• 1:09:26
  a it's a big committee degrees and yeah, I mean I'm a bachelor.
• 1:09:30
  I have zero responsibility. You know, I'm the cleanest that can get when
• 1:09:34
  it comes to anything other than me. And uh and yeah, and it's
• 1:09:39
  exhausted. It is exhausted. Even if you're going sober, you know you're
• 1:09:44
  just going to drive or whatever. You're just you're in the cold. You're
• 1:09:46
  always kind of on the uneven. You know, surfaces, there's thousands of
• 1:09:49
  people. You always got a walk head on a swivel at all times,
• 1:09:53
  and you know, not taking There's no place I'd rather be than right here,
• 1:09:56
  right now, right But the reality of it is easy. You know,
• 1:10:02
  it ain't easy. We've been doing it for a long time. You
• 1:10:04
  know, well again, I'll I'll take some time. Hobby. You know,
• 1:10:08
  it's and you always say that DT and that's absolutely right. It is.
• 1:10:11
  It's a way of life. It's not a hobby. We do this
• 1:10:13
  because we love the bills. You know. I did it as well,
• 1:10:15
  because I love the bills and I love the people, you know what I
• 1:10:17
  mean in my family and I you know, I was out of state.
• 1:10:19
  So that's how it started for me in O nine was because I missed the
• 1:10:23
  bills, I missed my family, and I missed the food, you know,
• 1:10:26
  the the three f's you know with football, food and family and you
• 1:10:30
  know, and it was it just worked out perfect where I could just come
• 1:10:32
  back and I can you know, kill two birds one stone, come up
• 1:10:34
  see people, and then head back to Charlotte after doing it. What is
• 1:10:39
  this twenty it's twenty twenty three now. I mean, like I've been it's
• 1:10:42
  been a long time. So I want to say that I'm for the ride.
• 1:10:45
  I intend to still be a season ticket holder, but I do know
• 1:10:49
  that the Bills need to keep those emails the funk away from me right now
• 1:10:51
  because I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to see a
• 1:10:55
  bill. I don't want to see the total for next year. There's always
• 1:10:57
  inflation. They always go up just a few bucks every year. I don't
• 1:11:00
  even want to think about any of that right now. I just want to
• 1:11:02
  relax, watch the rest of the postseason, and then I guess we'll get
• 1:11:05
  ready for the draft. So Nickel City crew, we love you guys so
• 1:11:09
  much. It's been such a pleasure. We've been ramping up our social media
• 1:11:13
  presence. We really enjoy reacting with you guys. Love these lives. Now
• 1:11:16
  we will be going season four. It's already been putting Stone right it in
• 1:11:19
  Stone. Season four will be in a completely live season. So we love
• 1:11:23
  interacting. Shout out to the guys there in the chat room tonight. We
• 1:11:27
  just love interacting. I love it. That's one of the reasons I started
• 1:11:29
  the podcast. I wanted to talk to more Bills fans other than again my
• 1:11:31
  Bills thoughts set out loud. I just talked to the Bills in my head
• 1:11:34
  all day like a crazy man. So I wanted to start interacting with people.
• 1:11:38
  That's what spawned the podcast a few years ago. DT. You know,
• 1:11:42
  I love you like my Bill's brother from another mother. Man, I
• 1:11:45
  love you. Man. Had a blast this weekend, Man, I really
• 1:11:47
  did have a blast. Thanks for your hospitality. It was top notch.
• 1:11:50
  And you know, I'm gonna miss you, man, but you know we'll
• 1:11:54
  get back up. We'll get back up for sure. We'll get me.
• 1:11:57
  It's same right right back at you. Rob. It's been a uh,
• 1:12:00
  you know, tough ending of the season, but like I said at the
• 1:12:02
  start, I wouldn't wouldn't trade it for the world beautiful to get up and
• 1:12:06
  and to be a part of this city and this team. And you know
• 1:12:09
  what it means to me from when I was a child all the way up
• 1:12:13
  until now. And you know, the friendships and and getting you and sitting
• 1:12:15
  here side by side every week and getting supper chested, it means a lot.
• 1:12:19
  And you know, it's it's something that I think we're we're getting good
• 1:12:23
  at as well as you know, it's good for us and good for people
• 1:12:27
  and anybody that listens is we've only heard good good responses and I hope that
• 1:12:30
  keeps going. But you know the main reason of this is our friendship and
• 1:12:34
  and everything together to keep this team up and and and here on the squad
• 1:12:39
  that that that we know and love well, yeah, love every part of
• 1:12:43
  it. Man. Another season was not the outcome we want, but a
• 1:12:46
  good season overall, and you know wouldn't wouldn't have it any other way than
• 1:12:50
  be right next to you here at the crew. Baby. Yeah, man,
• 1:12:53
  I love your DT. I mean we will again. Season four will
• 1:12:55
  be completely live. We're gonna take some time off, excuse me, relaxed,
• 1:13:00
  take a break. Got super Bowl coming up in a couple of weeks
• 1:13:03
  next month, so we'll kind of decompress. We will be back right right
• 1:13:06
  around draft time. I usually say right around draft times when you can start
• 1:13:11
  to turn the page a little bit and see what's going on, if there's
• 1:13:15
  anything crazy, if Stefan Diggs calls to be traded, you know what I
• 1:13:18
  mean. Sometime next month we'll definitely come up with a special episode. But
• 1:13:24
  but season four, we'll start next year in earnest, right around draft time.
• 1:13:28
  This is a wrap on season three. Please out there, spread love
• 1:13:31
  not Hey, these were my Bills starts set out loud for the final time
• 1:13:36
  in season three. DT hit them with a go Bills, Please hit them
• 1:13:41
  with the Gold Bills. Love it. Man. We'll see y'all the season
• 1:13:45
  four. Man be easy.