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Live From The Pactum · The Reformatory

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  [SPEAKER_10]: what's going on everyone.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: Josh here just wanted to give a quick disclaimer for this episode.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: We did this one live.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: Obviously by the title, you probably really know that.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: But the audio, in this in this particular app is not great.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: We had some very cheap
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  [SPEAKER_10]: Bluetooth microphones that we were trying to we were trying to do a mobile mobile set up here And honestly did not work out to the to the degree of success that I would be comfortable with just putting it up without this type of disclaimer
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_10]: There are parts in this episode that are really hard to listen to because the audio cuts out.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: It's fuzzy, it's bad, but our hope is that even with that, you can still get a sense of not just what's being said, but also the great enjoyment that Jack and I had, not just at the conference, but talking to folks after the conference, the fellowship at the Pactum conference.
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_10]: is topped here.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: It is among if not the top of the tier of conference experiences that I know Jack and I have had.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I just wanted to give you guys that disclaimer.
• 1:09
  [SPEAKER_10]: Hopefully the warmth and the excitement of what is being said comes through even though how it sounds is not great.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: So our apologies for the bad audio.
• 1:21
  [SPEAKER_10]: Next year, I will have a different solution, something that is something better, something that produces a higher, you know, a higher quality product.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_10]: So yeah, just want to put that out there.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: We know this is not up to reformatory standards, but hopefully you guys get the gist of the enjoyment and and and and and the heart comes through.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: We want the heart to come through even though it might be coming in pretty fuzzy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, hope you guys enjoy this.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: Hope it gives you a kind of a little taste of the vibe of the Pactum Conference and hopefully it gets you guys interested and excited about possibly joining Jack and I at the conference next year.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: We get to talk to some really cool people in this particular episode and I hope you guys enjoy it even with the bad audio.
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  [SPEAKER_10]: Okay, appreciate it and now on to the show.
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• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: As long as I'm not for me, we're gonna add the benediction right there, that was so good.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: what's going on everyone and welcome to the Reformed or in the podcast for the local church and by the local church and we are your local church man.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: My name is Josh and I'm here live at the packed up with the captain, Jack Barry.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: It has been a fantastic, fantastic weekend.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The conference has been a dude.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: It honestly, it gave me, it gave me darkened evil vibes in terms of like, how it felt, like I feel at home.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, right.
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it definitely, um, just Mike Abundrauth just finished us off here.
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_08]: And it was just such a a soothing bomb.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_08]: To the, uh, I think Josh and I can both attest to like the the fours of conferences, uh, the conference.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_08]: So that was, yeah, it was definitely very encouraging way more of
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know other than to say like a cooler, more chill vibe than any other conference that I've been to.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah, it was great.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_08]: No, it's fantastic.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Beautiful weather, it's something where it's like,
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's really cool knowing that you're around, not just like minded people, but also have the same mentality and attitude, reform theology, then you, yeah, because let's be real.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of grumps.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of people that are, you know, they claim the doctrines of grace and they're not very gracious people, and that is not displaced.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We kind of go, right.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: We kind of go a review there by Mike and saying, how much you leave your reform Baptist face behind.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_08]: It's true.
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to try to get this guy, Kofi.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: We're doing Word on the street here.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody, you recognize this face.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This is Kofi.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to try to say your last name.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But Kofi, you are on the reformatory right now, my friend.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're doing a live from the Pactum.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Tell everybody who you are, what your church is.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Where are you from?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Kofi is one.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a pastor at Redeemer Bible Fellowship in Medford, Oregon.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: One of these things we're actually having on as a guest.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Kofi is a awesome follow on Twitter.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You have to follow on Twitter.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He pulls no punches.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He likes getting in fights in the best way possible.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I like it, it's just, I like winning the ones of him.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And he wins, man.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He wins.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And he is a formidable fellow.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's formidable.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Kofi, it has been a joy having you here with us, too, man.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Just being able to finally get to spend some time together and get to know it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, it's a bit of joy.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, favorite watching, listening, how are you going to see this?
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay, both.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Great podcast.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: You need to be listening.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I have a seat every week.
• 5:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't like podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, I really enjoy this work.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, what are you talking about?
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: The packed are right there.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: There will come a break.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to answer that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I just take it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I hate it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I hate it.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I hate it.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I hate it.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I hate it.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I hate it.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, we had a, we had a, we have full Pacific Northwest guys here at the packed them.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: So Kofi, Josh, myself, and then Jeff, who's a local pastor up in the peninsula side of Washington States.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's been good to have some some representation.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, here.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's been super fun having people from the PNW out here, just because, yeah, I mean, again, we've talked about it a lot.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The PNW is a very unique place to do ministry.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, every region in America's unique, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone has their own, their own.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I think what is so interesting for me here at the conference where you're like,
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  [SPEAKER_08]: had told us, Pat, Evan, Droth had told us like, oh, yeah, there are people who are here who don't really believe in covenant theology.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like, whoa, that's like, usually in the Pacific Northwest, like getting like five Christians in a room to do a conference is like remarkable, yeah, 100%.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_08]: To get people who are Christians who don't believe the same thing in the same room for a conference about something is even like more of a miracle to me.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_08]: And yeah, no, I'm the head, so, 100%.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So this was what was really cool about experiences like this is that you get to finally like meet people in person that you've made for us with.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, I got to say, a moment ladies and gentlemen, we had a moment earlier today.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: or Jack, men did some bridges, he men did some bridges but I didn't even say anything dude, you, Jack and, and, and, and doctor, doctor, Scott, Scott Clark.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: At a moment, it was just said I like your shirt, and I think, and then he said something about Christian, because he's like, I wonder if he remembers and I got, I got mad at him, I was the forgiveness part, yeah, I don't know, yeah, yeah,
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  [SPEAKER_08]: It certainly doesn't know me from Adam to be quite honest, but for him to say, I like your shirt and then for him to say yeah, like forget those Christian nationalists.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I felt like everything was wiped away all things were forgiven.
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got to we got to I got to sit or just chat with them for a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my gosh, I talked about 19 70s Christian either.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a few words.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Keith Green, it was awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: to sit in that and just like listen in is like to be a fly on the law sometimes is just so fun and that be in that conversation is just so fun.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I would say this like I think you don't and I think that's the thing too is like you see people online it looks back up a little bit so we don't get to see people online and stuff like that and then you finally meet them in person and it's just like you understand that it's just a very different world
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, that's awesome.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And like that's why events like this are really good to do.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Because it reminds you of that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It reminds you that the online world is it's nasty.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's vulgar.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's so insular.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But then things like this remind you that, oh, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: There's actually real people.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That that believe in real things.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And our gracious and fun to hang out with and not awful, right?
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think, yeah, I would highly suggest to anyone.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyone that, you know, it might be feeling discouraged on the social media side, whatever it is.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Just come to a conference like this.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, next year.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: 2027.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's on sanctification.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They got a great lineup post.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They got a great lineup coming up.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: JV coming back.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Tom Hicks is going to be there.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's going to be, it's going to be a fantastic time.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so I know the reformatory will be there.
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to be a for sure, a for sure event that needs to happen.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking around and seeing if we have any other, I know, I was looking for Jordan.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I want to I want to introduce some I want to introduce some local folks to the to our listeners because it is yeah, it is it's pretty pretty cool.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_08]: I think they're probably all in the still kind of just got done.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, we just finished up with Mike's kind of last talk.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: and everybody's kind of loitering around in a good way.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: So that kind of helps out.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we got the famed Pactum couch behind us.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Backdrop.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They have the door open to the Pactum studio.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Which is pretty cool.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I go in.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We might have too.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That was pretty fun.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Hi, Patrick.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This is, this is ladies and gentlemen, Patrick, no, right there.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You're on the reformatory.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is Patrick.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Tell us who you are.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you do here?
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've been, you've been, you've been keeping it safe.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This entire weekend.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Patrick.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: Patrick and us with Omaha Bible Church for 25 years.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: I help Pat and Chris Peterson, Pat, I've been driving Chris Peterson out with behind the scenes stuff.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and you've been doing an amazing job.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Big big cigar man.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Looking forward to hanging out with you a little later today.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: Cigar and bourbon.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 11:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 11:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: We got some leave us in some David offs that we're going to have.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, boy.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: Big spenders.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I thought I was boozey.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: like this.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It has just been a blessing meeting you and so many other people here that we've had interactions online but I was telling Jack things like this are so encouraging because you get to actually put faces and personalities to the to the profile pictures and remind you that you know social media it's a fake place this is this is where real I've actually happened real
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_07]: but the text that come into you that they're giving you a hard time.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: You've got to read them like you did for that last one.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: That is a whole other thread down the road, brother.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good to know.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see a little later.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good to see you.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: See you later, guys.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Trevor, there we go.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_08]: We gotta put, we gotta put, we gotta put, I do this, we gotta bring in this Trevor.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: This is Trevor.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: There's a formatory, right?
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  [SPEAKER_08]: is a fellow member of the dog pound for the Cleveland Browns.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yep, and he told us, yeah, he can, yeah, we were reveling in the fact that we spanked the Steelers again on Thursday night football and kept the kept the kind of goings alive for that.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: But Trevor's just been great.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: He was like one of the first guys that I hung out with here at the conference.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Cat talked about just local church stuff and talking about what's going on and so yeah, it's been really encouraging hanging out with him story about Trevor right he's a listener of the former toy which is fantastic yeah and out also his wife Shelley is a listener of the former toy but Shelley specifically refused and I want to use the the language very yes specifically refused.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, to get on a face time with the reformatory, can you explain your wife to us, laying my wife to us?
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to get really careful.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to get really careful, like, I have all my hands out and I use it as much as you can.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: My wife isn't credible.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: It is a very behind behind the scenes kind of person.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: And she's got a heart for serving the Lord and it's just wonderful But she if the spotlight has ever wants to even sniff her she runs like ask her to come up on stage No, she's in there.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_08]: No, so I had put up the idea and no Josh and I did Yeah, but we just maybe Trevor does the face time and I do still have
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: something really meta, and we do it right here.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a mere thing.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no way.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got it.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're hot, then.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Too much.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're hot.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can go home with a clear conscience.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: You spoke of your wife very, very well, but she'll like come on.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're hot, then.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're not, we're not mean, but we're not.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Correct.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: You're the internet strangers that our parents were orness about.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's right.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we asked.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's been the meet-up online.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he said, yeah, sure.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: What could this voice to get up?
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, tell us where you go to church, what you love about your church, I'm gonna let you go.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so I am in the Alessarza Columbus, Ohio and a church called New Life Church.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Great community, great gospel preaching, the singing on Sunday morning.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, this is past Sunday.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like we're singing a song, and all of a sudden, it's like, wow, I can hear everybody.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, nice.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's so cool to hear just the joy of the Lord and the people of my church.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: and the fact that they just love gospel preaching, they love the Word of God, they stand on the Word of God, and then the transparency within our church.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're elders, they care for our people, they love us dearly, and they want to shepherd us well.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so that's yeah, so I love my church.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love that man, that's awesome.
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it has been a blessing to get to know you, not your wife, because she wasn't here, she didn't want to talk.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know what?
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Shelly?
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, maybe next year.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, bring it back.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Safe turns back.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you online.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: That has been really fun, too.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's obviously the vast majority of people that are here are here for the pack them, obviously.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: But there have been, what's really cool about our listeners based is that they do cross over.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right?
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you have, you have pack them listeners, and reformatory listeners like Trevor and Shelley, like you have, right?
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's been fantastic.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been cool to see.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_10]: I like cool to see.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just bringing everybody out, just bringing everybody out.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is Andrew.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Andrew, you have been the bookstore guru today.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Something like that.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: The healing and deal and making deals, man.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been fantastic.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just watch you do your work.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, I tried sales in real life and it was on my thing, but one weekend out of the year.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, with private life, so.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't know it.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You would not know that it did not come naturally to it.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: You were, you were fantastic back there.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been exciting.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been really awesome, the way that you guys have served us that have come here to this conference.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's knocked it out of the park.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're volunteer based the members here do the fantastic.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's always been blessed.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we've been doing this for a few years now and we've gotten better and better each year and it's been a really good year.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm glad you guys were able to make it and it's been a blessed.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been fantastic.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Andrew, thank you.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's fantastic meeting you, right?
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And thank you so much, Andrew.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it's awesome.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, he's an awesome folks here at the Pact of Man.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is my first time in Nebraska.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not lying when they say it's flat.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I was like, okay, yeah, sure it's flat.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's legitimately.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_08]: that you can see from miles.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_08]: We have Josh and I come from a place that is very much mountainous, and very much has like a lot of like natural features.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_08]: There's not a whole new natural features.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_08]: We've got it then like I'm not trying it.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's old hair on the grass.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, there's the thing.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the grass is way more free than watching it.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like we're true.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: The scenery we can see, we pay for it.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that pretty?
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's, let me, like as I'm in like,
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: cuffs.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's beautiful, but it's awful.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is fantastic.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been such a great conference.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Love being here.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yet listeners, you got to come back next year.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: We want to get like a whole, not just like a reformatory core hook.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go for it going.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like a P&W.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that would be fun.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that would be fun to have a cohort of P&W people, especially because
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_08]: I think like what how the I think how the conference culture is right here is like nothing you've ever kind of experienced right I feel like in previous got a sound Josh about this in previous conferences past it's been like very stiff.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_08]: or very like inaccessible like you can literally talk to any of the speakers that come off the stage and just ask them a question freely versus like oh let me shuttle you off into the green room right and let you let nobody talk to you it's like how are you helping people with that kind of culture yeah so yeah it was very yeah it was like cool to like talk about
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_08]: Dr. Fesco talked about in his like lead up talks he talked about it's like some pieces of church history and I would just ask him like a church history question and like I would never get that anywhere else right to be quite honest so it's been very it's been very refreshing it's been like really hospitable
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_08]: really thankful for like the people of like the local church here at Omaha Bible Church and like I said just the culture of this conference is something that's very refreshing versus in years and conferences past where it's been like so celebrity culture and
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_08]: That's the one.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_08]: Those lines.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: No.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: However, sign.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_08]: I agree.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_08]: So.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's fan tech.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the moment, Roy.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: OK.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's good to have you.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are a missionary in India.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Could you tell us just a little bit about who you are and your work that you're doing in India.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: My friend.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: OK. All right.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm Aaron Sassane.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm currently mastering a church.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been almost a year in India in my city of Boone.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: which is right next to Mumbai on the west coast, and that's where I grew up in my God's Race after seminary.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I graduated last year and I was able to go back and this church that needed a pastor.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I needed a church so it worked out and really happy to be there serving God's people bringing good reform theology to India that needs it.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I God's Race, I was able to go to a good seminary.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: and we train well in God's Word.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I'm just enjoying pouring out and people's lives there and seeing what the Lord can do.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: We need more pastors there like everywhere.
• 20:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And in the midst of our position, we get to see the Lord working.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's not going to air in here about just the landscape politically and just it would blow people's minds in the United States of what you guys have to go through of like just for somebody to just even confess Jesus and walk that life in India and the certain parts that you're at India and so what would you say I mean because obviously context is everything right we know we know the
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: We know the things that that we struggle with more or hear in the USA as a church, right?
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know the problems in the culture that we're facing.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Trying to combat with a word of God.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are some of those things in your context that you're finding?
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is the front line where the word of God is needing to be applied to your people.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I spent some time in the States studying in whatnot.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And one thing's clear, I mean, any nation on the face of the service needs to price.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we look forward to it.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: King them not made by hand.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a kingdom of Allah.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus Christ when he returns and all his glory.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But now even serving in a...
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: In a place that is not fully open to the gospel and is opposed to its own challenges, but you know I told my church, it's not like God is saying I need to elect a few less of people from India The church will flourish as the gospel goes out and it's a joy just to see
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: life chains and you know people coming to faith in Christ and some people that have not received I've been in the church, but not received Good Christian education or clarity on the gospel.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just one.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to bring that You know in a lost world I such and and and it's just it's amazing with the Lord doesn't how he adds to us people.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Aaron, you are doing fantastic work and in the much-needed work and in our prayers or with yet last question, tell our listeners where they can find you, they can sign up for news for your ministry, possibly support you if they're able.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Aaron, thank you so much for your time.
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks Aaron.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate it, brother.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to any work again.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all that.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is Jeff Gonzales.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no.
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: You think I'm going to be sure, right?
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_09]: I want to see.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're on with a reformatory right now.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you are a pastor in Port Angeles.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're one of our fellow PNWs.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right?
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you actually, you actually were an intern here with Pat Abe and dropped them on that, right?
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is right.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was an intern here.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, had a good time.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So this has been like a homecoming for me.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_09]: And yeah, really good to see.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_09]: These are my old professors, too, here that we're here.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_09]: So I'll be see, sent me the West Cal.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, really good.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're really good conference to be a part of.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's awesome.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tell us a little bit about your ministry in Port Angeles, the church there, what it what it's like doing ministry kind of up on the, you know, the peninsula in the peninsula.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_09]: We are on the peninsula, and it's right on the order of the Olympic National Park.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_09]: So we have mountains to our south and ocean to our north.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_09]: And so it's a beautiful area.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, the churches were demerc oven at church, and we're serving the Lord.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_09]: I've been there about eight years by his grace.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_09]: And so, pressing on and love it there.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_09]: It has its own unique challenges, but also a lot of benefits as well.
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_09]: One of the very few reform presence
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_09]: And so the Lord's really put in my heart a conviction to bring the reform faith to preach Christ through all scripture and to really just help my people understand a Bible better through law gospel distinctions and stuff.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_09]: And so that's been something that our people have grown and appreciated and come to hunger seeing Christ in all scripture.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_09]: So that's my passion and that's one of the things we learn here at the pack them.
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, 100%.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you're doing fantastic
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: it's not your only passion though.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Chef's not going to rep this but I'm going to rep this of Jeff is an avid mountaineer.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are a hiker, you're a climber and you're dipping your toe into a into content creation for that, right?
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, what's your YouTube channel?
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tell people if they like uh, so Jeff is like, you know what that, you know that Mormon guy that got really popular like doing those overnight trips?
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: We guess they're going to be a manual, so yeah, area, last
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what Jeff is doing.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's your place.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not part of a cult.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right?
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.
• 24:56
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• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: He wouldn't rip it himself.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got to do it for him.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_09]: So it's called backcountry renegade and it's kind of just getting out of the Olympic peninsula and other areas as well.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_09]: But I do hiking backpacking gear reviews.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_09]: It's a mountaineering recently at Mount Baker and Josh actually makes an appearance in that episode.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_09]: So wow for that.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Unplanned, but yeah, not for good reasons.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's in the pool and the cameo?
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but it ended up being in God's Providence was a really good thing and a great fellowship as well.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, check that out if you want to see that back country or in a good like and subscribe and you can see me on there as well.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_08]: So I love that Jeff had a Jeff had a story that was really jealous of we were
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_08]: hanging out last night and Jeff told me I asked the I just asked around our table like who's like the most famous celebrity in interaction you've had and Jeff goes yes don cold Steve Austin I met him and I'm like I would family so hard if I met Stone Cold Steve Austin so that was fun to hear like little stories of like wrestlers that Jeff had saw like go to these gyms around him in Texas so that was fun here in that so yeah and you're taking off today aren't you?
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_09]: I am taking, I'm leaving to Columbus to visit.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_09]: That's right, that's right, that's right.
• 26:25
  [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, all right.
• 26:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so we probably won't see it until we get back home.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so a little touch face.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just a minute with your body.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, thank you.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have to get to see it, Jeff.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_09]: See you next time.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_09]: Thanks a lot.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, ladies and gentlemen, I think that's probably about what we're going to get this episode.
• 26:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, Jack, I would ask you to, uh, oh, hold on.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I might see if I can maybe, maybe not.
• 26:49
  [SPEAKER_08]: Well, we're, we're in a holding pattern.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_08]: It's right all thanks about where I don't think pattern.
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_08]: Let's see if we can get one more possible person over here.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_08]: The man, the legend.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, we are.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yep, yep, you're not.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're not.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: He's out for me.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Since I have a face for radio, we're going to do this.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: How amazing is it to have you guys at the Packham Conference?
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_08]: Well, he's amazing.
• 27:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: It is for you guys to like bring this on and just have this.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_08]: That's the thing.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I feel kind of known because.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: comfortably known for this.
• 27:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I in in all honesty this conference I was telling Jack earlier has been something that I have personally been looking for for years.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: Come on.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_05]: And I'd say that because for the foundation of the pack and birth.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Before the foundation of the pack and birth, it was in the mind of yeah way back when the not only do you guys have an obvious commitment to historical biblical theology.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the way that you go about showing and applying that commitment is in a way that I think is.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: very much undervalued in our reform culture.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm 100% with you.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: And a local church promoted, right?
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: All served.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's nothing bad.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's in your lane.
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's right up our alley, right?
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: So when you, when you first reached out, you know, those relationships happening, I knew like this, I had a feeling this was gonna be a place where we felt right at home and Jack and I when that screen popped up for, for next year, we looked at each other and like, the plane tickets were already bought.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah, it was when I saw Tom Hicks name, I'm like, oh, he's bringing it.
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: This is, this is going to be good.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, Tom is really, really good when it comes to that whole matter of, you know, anti-back steering and kind of stuff, good sanctification, not the bad guy.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_08]: So I can't wait.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: And did you try runs yet, Jack?
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_08]: I have not, but I, my wife is Russian Ukrainian.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_08]: So I feel like it's just going to be a glorified, like Persian.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I do.
• 28:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've tried.
• 28:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: Taste that they have on the gifts.
• 28:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: We will see you at lunch here in a little bit so maybe maybe if front is there we can force it down Greek food okay okay all right there is that yeah love it just wanted to say thank you this conference has been a blessing you're welcome I'm so thankful yeah for you guys yeah awesome okay signing out from the past go with the fact in verse we're going to let it take you
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, man.
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's gonna do it for us.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jack, my friend Life at the packed up.
• 29:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 20 to hand on the street.
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man on the street interviews.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been fantastic.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's been awesome For the yeah for our live, man, why don't you get us out of here?
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, ladies and gentlemen I'm voicing girls if you appreciate Josh and I is commitment to the local church and how
• 29:36
  [SPEAKER_08]: You can make a little cultured central to the believer, or to your life as the believer.
• 29:41
  [SPEAKER_08]: You can follow us on the sociables, those dastardly little things.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_08]: You can follow us on the meta, the Facebook, if you will, the instant gram.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_08]: We didn't have instant grams on this one.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: No!
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_08]: We don't need, I don't think we need those.
• 29:53
  [SPEAKER_08]: This is the instant gram, it's for encouragement.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_08]: With all the interviews, that's very true.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_08]: You can follow us on the Instant Gram.
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_08]: You can have it with Marshmello, World Gram crackers, sprinkle some heresy on top of that.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_08]: Or you can follow us on the sociable, formerly known as Twitter X. Yup, you can follow us at.
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_08]: all those sociable platforms at the tag at the former Tory pod.
• 30:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: Josh, can you tell a little of the people how they might support us further and not in Deva?
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
• 30:18
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• 30:29
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• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: We really appreciate that as well helps get the podcast at more people last but not least you have we have not just you We have a Patreon and for five dollars month.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all it is.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the Costco hotdog We talked about that.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going up.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're not raising the price of the pandering
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: yellow or high water inflation or whatever the opposite of inflation is.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Outflation.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: That inflation, I don't know, maybe that.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I quit without inflation, I'm sure.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But whatever that is, it's not going up.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you choose to head on over to the Patreon, we haven't done this live for a while.
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_10]: No, we don't have to do this live, all right?
• 31:14
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• 31:15
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• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Our pledge to you as you turn name, Chubby Hollow at Halle, it's Halle.
• 31:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Halle, through the halls of the podcast, that is our pledge to you.
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: We thank you all for listening, and we will catch you on the next step of the reformatories.