Latest / Whisky Stories Podcast / ONE HUNDRED EPISODES: Fighting bears with whisky, top drams and plans for the future
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- 0:00I guess you know what to do. There you go.
- 0:03Clap us in with our new Clapper board.
- 0:06Wait, you? See.
- 0:07That's right. Welcome to the Whiskey Stories
- 0:12podcast. What whiskey?
- 0:14Both bottle would be the best weapon to fight off a bear. 100
- 0:19episodes in Cody, and that's what you can for, well, 100.
- 0:24As a manic whore, I would I should say that a manic more
- 0:28cream liqueur would be pretty saucy.
- 0:34Embarrassed. Well, you know what, Angus?
- 0:36You're absolutely spot. Welcome all the Whiskey stories
- 0:44podcast episode 100. We've done it.
- 0:49I can't believe we've done it. We haven't done it yet.
- 0:51Well, we're nearly exactly the way things are.
- 0:53Good. We might not get it done anytime
- 0:55soon as well. We're not back in our usual
- 0:57position. 100 episodes on. We've gone down in the world.
- 1:01We tried to get in our normal position but.
- 1:03We were, yeah, there was a misunderstanding, Double booked.
- 1:07But we're down. We're in the athletic arms.
- 1:10We're not sandwiched nicely between the gents toilets and
- 1:12the bar. We're sandwiched nicely
- 1:14underneath the gents toilets and the bar.
- 1:15Moving down in the world. We have gone well after 100
- 1:18episodes we've gone down in the world but here we are lads, we
- 1:20have done it. We've made it to Episode 100, a
- 1:23milestone. Are we good?
- 1:25We've done well, we've done something.
- 1:27I think if you told me, we'd have done 100 episodes after the
- 1:30recording of the first episode. Yeah, if you like.
- 1:33Yeah. I mean, don't know.
- 1:35Gram and Angus, for a couple of months.
- 1:36You were. Very skeptical you are.
- 1:38I think if you told me we'll do 100 episode like I'll say no,
- 1:41you're right, I'll do something else, but I.
- 1:44Knew we get so I remember I remember I remember very vividly
- 1:49having a conversation with you guys.
- 1:51Yes, that is that like the majority of podcasts that start
- 1:56never make it past episode 8. We've done that.
- 2:00I said episode 10 is the marker because what can some things
- 2:04happen is I knew you get to episode 8 and we go, yeah, we've
- 2:07done it, we'll wait. And then we can never get an
- 2:09episode recorded again and it just falls off the scheme.
- 2:11Yeah. We have missed one Thursday.
- 2:15That's it. Yeah, one Thursday in January
- 2:17this year. That's a big commitment from
- 2:18yourself as well. Graham, Craig.
- 2:19Yeah, I've never actually. I could safely say I am the only
- 2:22person who has never missed a single episode.
- 2:25Of the Whiskey Stories podcast, the one constant.
- 2:28I know I'd like to ask you guys is.
- 2:29If we have, we've been on holiday, we've got.
- 2:31Lights. We have lights.
- 2:31Yeah, well. What I'd like to do is right,
- 2:34how many times have you guys watched me set up right?
- 2:37I mean, it takes you guys watch we get everything ready.
- 2:40If I was to suddenly fall, I'll half an hour before an episode
- 2:43and say we've got Charlie McLean on with Richard Patterson,
- 2:48right? So we've got the 2 godfathers of
- 2:51Scotch whiskey and I can't make it.
- 2:53But I've left all the kit at Diggers.
- 2:55You guys just need to get set up and start recording.
- 2:59It'd be recorded on my iPhone on that tripod, I think.
- 3:01Yeah, I, I think. So he's watched me set up for
- 3:04over 100 episodes. I will say that for the 1st 20
- 3:07episodes I used to offer, Graham can help me set up No no, no, no
- 3:10no. Yeah, I've got.
- 3:11I'm pretty particular. So, so that was it.
- 3:12And then after that, I was like, well, I'm going to pretend I'm
- 3:16not. I'm no longer going to pretend.
- 3:17I even wanted to help out in the.
- 3:18First, you just drunk. Drunk.
- 3:19It gives me about 100 episodes as we've been to the Diggers an
- 3:23awful lot as. Well, we have.
- 3:24We have. And I'll tell you what, if you
- 3:26were to look at it, I broke this, but.
- 3:27We've been home and away. We have been home and away.
- 3:29We've been home and away. I've broken this down.
- 3:31If we were to take everything on an average, so 100 episodes,
- 3:35that's 9000 minutes right now, I know that they say that you need
- 3:39to get 10,000 hours in to become a true expert at something.
- 3:43So I think if we can get 10,000 minutes, we'll be sort of semi
- 3:47pro. I think 10,000 minutes because
- 3:51that works out 150 hours, but if you were to listen to every
- 3:55episode back-to-back it would take you 6.25 days.
- 4:00Wow. Oh yeah, there you go.
- 4:01So almost almost my global. Camp pandemic is coming back.
- 4:05Exactly exactly. Oh you know I feel over you'd be
- 4:08an overtime if you're working a working week. 300 on average
- 4:12300W's tasted between us probably more.
- 4:15I was a bit conservative with how many whiskeys we average on
- 4:18a on an episode. So that works out at 10,500 ML
- 4:22of whiskey. Please drink responsible.
- 4:24Please drink and podcast responsibly because that works
- 4:27out again. Roughly 15 full 70 CLS.
- 4:32Yeah, we've definitely drank a bit more than that, I think.
- 4:34That's if you were to drink all the whiskey that we've had and
- 4:39Scotch at the Balmoral, it would cost you an absolute fortune.
- 4:42But because he only did 25 milliliters, you know, measures
- 4:46that would that would be 420 drams.
- 4:49Wow. Yeah, 420.
- 4:51Drams. 100 episodes, 420 Drams. Yeah, there you go.
- 4:54We've had some great guests. We've had some brilliant grass,
- 4:57some. Fantastic memories.
- 4:58We've drank a lot of very, very good whiskey.
- 5:01And no, it's been. Had some brilliant grass and
- 5:04we've had Fraser soon as some twice, yeah.
- 5:08I actually thought that for 100 episodes I would bring some
- 5:11brilliant whiskey as well. So I've not told you about what
- 5:14brought. And I think a lot of the
- 5:16whiskey's, you know, whiskey's stories and a good whiskey is
- 5:20good company. You boys are all right company
- 5:22nowadays. And actually I preferred you
- 5:24when you knew less. But I brought 3 drams for us to
- 5:32kind of go through throughout the podcast.
- 5:33And we've got some questions from listeners, viewers.
- 5:36Yeah, everything, which is brilliant as well.
- 5:37And also say that it's been really nice whether you go to
- 5:39festivals or just obviously know that I'm working back in the own
- 5:42trade. A lot of people coming in and
- 5:44saying hi, how are you? The worst thing for me is people
- 5:49say hi and I don't know who they are and that really stresses me
- 5:52out. You know, I was a year ago
- 5:55because this weekend is the, as we're recording us, this weekend
- 5:58is the Edinburgh Whiskey Festival and unfortunately we
- 6:00can't make it this year. So we're gutted about that.
- 6:03But we were, we were at that whiskey festival, and that was.
- 6:07The origin, really. Some, some, some random lady
- 6:10came up to us and just went, Oh my God, you guys are in my
- 6:13living room every week. And it was Nadia, shout out to
- 6:16Nadia, Nadia Douglas. Nadia, great to have met you
- 6:19there. And it was just surreal.
- 6:21And then? It's been 2 years.
- 6:23Yeah, that was a year. That was last year.
- 6:24That was last year. She went, we went.
- 6:26It's been. Two years since you guys first
- 6:27went, Yeah, No, we tried the podcast, No.
- 6:30No longer because we wait a minute.
- 6:32I had two years, 2, was it 2 years ago?
- 6:34Yeah, 2. And I complained that we've I've
- 6:36mentioned this, mentioned that the indie bottle spotlight with
- 6:37Fraser. So I complained that day.
- 6:40Too many indie bottles. Couldn't there was too many
- 6:42indie bottles and I don't get it.
- 6:43I don't understand. Why would you drink a drama cast
- 6:45strength? Why would you?
- 6:47Why would you drink a DRAM, you know?
- 6:49Back then, you were Why would you drink something that wasn't
- 6:51Scotch single malt? 100% yeah but even even if it
- 6:54was Scotch single malt I'd just saying why would you drink it
- 6:56from an indie bottler when you could just have it from the
- 6:58distillery? Surely it would be better if it
- 7:00came from the source, Not that distillery Obes aren't.
- 7:05You know, there's no difference between which which one's
- 7:07better. But at the same time I just
- 7:09didn't understand it. I get it.
- 7:10Journey that we've been on Angus the.
- 7:12Whiskey Journey, It's totally changed because I mean, I
- 7:14remember when you were there and it was like, well, there was an
- 7:17indie bottler that had a coalila, but then there was
- 7:19another indie bottler that had a coalila.
- 7:21Why would I want to try two different?
- 7:22Coalilas. But like, yeah, I mean, Angus, I
- 7:25mean, how many pieces of liquid do you think you've had in your
- 7:28mouth? Nice.
- 7:30Now only, only really old listeners will.
- 7:33Remember, I've had a lot of pieces of liquid in my mouth, I
- 7:35can tell you. And have you tried the beef?
- 7:37I haven't tried the beef yet. 111 day, I'll try the beef.
- 7:42One day when we go Isla, we'll try the beef.
- 7:44You know, let's actually let's just put that question in
- 7:46straight away. Somebody on Instagram replied to
- 7:50to a post we put up today saying what is the the most WTF moment
- 7:56from the podcast. And I suggested it was Angus
- 7:58hearing a bit whiskey judging and saying to Megan Murdoch, how
- 8:02many pieces of liquid can you put in your mouth in one?
- 8:04Yeah, Yeah. We just have you watched that
- 8:06episode, which is one of the first episodes of recorded
- 8:09actually with the camera. You watch that moment, me and
- 8:12you just look at each other. Some, some.
- 8:13Sometimes the words come out of my mouth before I form them in
- 8:16my brain. I think that was definitely one
- 8:19of those. Times a WTF moment.
- 8:21Connor O'Keefe, ginger boy, ginger boy powers.
- 8:25That was that was a cracking, cracking line cracking moment
- 8:29and a story that you didn't know where it was going to go.
- 8:32And I think that was a bit like, wow.
- 8:33But also, like, I think, you know, there's WTF moments as
- 8:36well where remember you and I on the pod and Angus, Angus, was
- 8:41that your, it was your, it was your mum's birthday.
- 8:43Yes. Nicola Shepherd.
- 8:47So Jake came on. Jake came on and brought 22
- 8:49drums and we tried them and then he went out to tell us it was
- 8:52Rosebank and a little milk. Yeah.
- 8:55And we both, there's the, the, the reaction because we both
- 8:58just buzzed up and it went. Angus is going to be raging.
- 9:01It was it. Was just laughter.
- 9:03Straight away it was. Great.
- 9:05And I mean, the first time we had Chucker on the podcast A.
- 9:09Lot of that was WTF. Everything he said was a WTF.
- 9:13My granny told me I had to go and check if my cousin's OK in
- 9:16Taiwan. So my Gran set me in Taiwan for
- 9:18like a long weekend, Yeah. And by the time he's
- 9:20acclimatized to the time. I mean, you know, setting up the
- 9:23olive oil company that's too embarrassed to say.
- 9:27That's one of the highest lessons we've.
- 9:29Had on the podcast. So that question is actually
- 9:32from our friend the Drambler. Yes.
- 9:35So he asked yeah, most WTF moment.
- 9:38Then he said have you got what's the top 3W stories moments for
- 9:42your personal and there's just 100 episodes.
- 9:44It's a hard question. Just straight into.
- 9:47Top 3W Stories Moments Well, first of all, Charlie Hume,
- 9:51who's over in Cayman Islands, yes.
- 9:55Yeah. He told the great story with one
- 9:57of his what, 3 drums and I'd recommend because I'm not going
- 10:00to retell it, but he he what one of the things about that is
- 10:03there's there'll be a certain amount of people who who listen
- 10:06to that episode before I got a chance to edit it after it had
- 10:11been published because I received a message from somebody
- 10:15asking. To remove.
- 10:16Mostly I, I yeah. Could you please remove my
- 10:20details from this story, as I don't want to get into any more
- 10:23trouble than I'm already in. Yeah.
- 10:25So try out Charlie Hume for that.
- 10:26That was great. I really enjoyed stopping
- 10:29everything I was doing during that Tuesday afternoon and
- 10:32having to reedit the podcast and reboot it.
- 10:34But a great story all the same. Look for Charlie's story there
- 10:37been. So many amazing moments in the
- 10:40100 episodes I think of. I quite like moments you're not
- 10:43going to believe this, where I'm surprised or proven wrong.
- 10:46Yeah, yeah, Love that. And that's why I got this in
- 10:48front of me. This is the woven CX.
- 10:53Oh, is it the coffee? This.
- 10:54Is the coffee. Whiskey.
- 10:56Sugar. Thing I'm like, I don't drink
- 10:58coffee. Well, I owe you this in Hazel's,
- 11:01and it was in this room. Hazel.
- 11:02Hazel came in and brought it in, Yeah.
- 11:04Hazel MacLeod brought it in, and as you watch the last 20 minutes
- 11:06of that podcast in this room, it's just me topping up my glass
- 11:10with our bottle. Of that in fact, I think because
- 11:12is it not because of that episode there's now signs
- 11:14visibly down here that just says not for.
- 11:16Ross because it turns out that the homemade was also sitting on
- 11:20the thing was actually caved for display and I was brought
- 11:23homemade. Brilliant.
- 11:25What kind of moments have you had on the pod?
- 11:28Loads, I would say getting to go to the distilleries has always
- 11:32been like the the the, the first, the first proper
- 11:38distillery we went to and actually had a look around would
- 11:40have been portly, Portly, which was just, it was great to
- 11:44actually be going around the distillery.
- 11:47I'd never been to Portly yeah Leaf before, so that was great.
- 11:51But I think I think the Tomatin 1.
- 11:54Tomatin 1 is a lot the. Tomatin one that is just
- 11:57something else. Watch the Tomatin video Chuck
- 11:59banging is gay low there was the.
- 12:02So it's just we were so giddy going around.
- 12:05We were just high on life. You do listen to the podcast and
- 12:08you don't necessarily watch the podcast on YouTube.
- 12:11The Tomatin episode is one that really you have to watch.
- 12:14Yeah, yeah, I know people. It's not.
- 12:16An episode because people might be listening.
- 12:17I can't remember a Timaton episode.
- 12:19It's video only. It's a blog.
- 12:21Yeah. It was, it was like a it was
- 12:23like a school trip. It was.
- 12:24Just it really was just like we were hyper.
- 12:27It was 10:30 in the morning and we'd arrived at Timaton
- 12:30Distillery. Le be Joe.
- 12:31She didn't have a clue what she was getting herself, but she was
- 12:34a she was a great sport. Took it well.
- 12:36Yeah, she really, really did. Yeah.
- 12:37That WTF moment as well was probably that on that same trip,
- 12:40walking into the Dorma Distillery, you'd explain to us
- 12:45you'd been and been you. I, I, I do try as best as
- 12:50possible to me as ignorant as I possibly can.
- 12:52With this podcast, we don't. People might wonder like these
- 12:55guys. They really act up so well by
- 12:57pretending not to to do any preparation.
- 13:00I mean you do very little prep. Very, very, very little prep to
- 13:04the point where sometimes I'll not even check our guests actual
- 13:07job title. Yeah, but it's it's not done in
- 13:10ignorance in terms. Of no, because you want.
- 13:12You don't want to spot. I want it to be, I want
- 13:14everything to be a surprise and I want, and you were trying to
- 13:16explain to us like, and I said no, no, wait, because one of the
- 13:19things that you said on that trip was on the Friday we were
- 13:21saying to Matt and which at this one time was the biggest
- 13:23distillery in Scotland. Yeah, in the world.
- 13:26In the world, yeah, for production.
- 13:27So you're saying to go from that to and I said, right, Ross,
- 13:30that's plenty, Let's wait and see.
- 13:32And the Saturday morning on camera when we walked in, that
- 13:35was a bit genuine, a bit like, I knew it was going to be small,
- 13:39but I had absolutely no idea it was going to be like.
- 13:41This and I think again, it's quite interesting that there's
- 13:44obviously a lot of that. We get a lot of chat and setting
- 13:47up with guests beforehand and for people that listen
- 13:50regularly, they'll be quite often when I'm, if I can't make
- 13:53it, but maybe I've arranged the guests to come on that I'll say
- 13:56XY and Z. These are worth these things are
- 13:58worth focusing on and talking about or maybe like a make sure
- 14:01you talk about this. But most of the time it is we
- 14:03might know that we might not know that maybe we met them at a
- 14:05festival. Maybe they've approached us now,
- 14:07which is great. And they come in, you go.
- 14:09So what's your job title and where do you want to start and
- 14:11what's the journey? Danny Dyer was a great example
- 14:14of that because like we knew he was global grants ambassador
- 14:17before he came to us, but I had no idea that you'd want it like
- 14:20a competition. Any of that story is that
- 14:22getting to find these stories out and meet these individuals
- 14:25and hear their stories on the podcast has been invaluable.
- 14:28But also we've created our own stories.
- 14:30Like I said, our story of hiring the Whiskey Wagon and driving up
- 14:34to the order I. Used to.
- 14:36Die though. Yeah, you were very helpful.
- 14:38I do have actually on that subject.
- 14:41What drama are we drinking on Episode 1?
- 14:4499 episodes ago. What drum?
- 14:46Well, do we all start at the same drum?
- 14:48Yes we did. We started for grants 25 years.
- 14:51Led us on to another what the WTA moment what the fuck was
- 14:56bringing out our very own blend and when the opportunity came
- 14:59our own first ever only bought like so far.
- 15:02And when the opportunity came when Greg Urquhart from rare
- 15:06find said here's what we've got and we went he went through his
- 15:09inventory and I remember going back and I can't remember
- 15:12exactly what the other options were about be in the group chat
- 15:15for to look back. There was three that there's a
- 15:17ball Blair I think in there. Yeah and I think we sort of
- 15:19looked at and I said, but there is a 25 year old blend and we
- 15:24were like, well, 25 year old blend being the first drama we
- 15:28had on the podcast. It made so much sense and the
- 15:31bottle I've got in front of me is actually probably one of the
- 15:34last bottles which has already been taken by Kev who's going to
- 15:37have it behind the bar. So there's none left.
- 15:40We sold. And to be fair, that just goes
- 15:42to show that 99 episodes ago, you guys were very trusted.
- 15:45Hi, Ross. Thanks.
- 15:46Thanks. This is we'll see what this is
- 15:48like. What should we have?
- 15:49And I remember seeing that the Grant 25 was 8 Pounder DRAM 9.
- 15:53Was it 9? 9.
- 15:55And had it on it. And I said, we'll have three of
- 15:56them. And you were probably thinking,
- 16:00when did whiskey? Well, there was an element of.
- 16:03I like the fact that we did that.
- 16:05Have you ever went back and listened to episode 1 by the
- 16:07way? Generally.
- 16:07No, I haven't. Hang on a second.
- 16:08I mean, my thoughts at the time would probably be 25 and I think
- 16:11with 25 has got to be amazing. Yeah, which is probably not
- 16:15true. Absolutely.
- 16:17I've not listened back to episode.
- 16:19One I can. Remember, I can remember a lot
- 16:21of what I said on it, which is probably why I haven't listened
- 16:25back to that. Wait a second, it's.
- 16:27Interesting to me when we get new Lesters viewers that they go
- 16:30back and some of them do. Go back.
- 16:32You see it every now and then, yeah.
- 16:33And here we. Go is this going to be an audio?
- 16:37How bad the audio was at the time as well. 2nd.
- 16:39It's not. Have you got a connection?
- 16:41I don't think I do that. See, while you're trying to work
- 16:43that out, let me pull out the first drama of your 100 episode
- 16:46flight, OK? Yes, well, that I would say.
- 16:48We are drumming. I've just just about.
- 16:49In fact, keen viewers will know I'm wearing a.
- 16:56Lanyard, you are indeed a very sensible choice of entire group.
- 17:00And actually a branded lanyard because I think we have a bit of
- 17:03a nerve with quite a few people. We mentioned lanyards a bit too
- 17:08often that episode. Yeah, if I hear lanyard one more
- 17:11time, Yeah. So let's let's not spend too
- 17:13long on the lanyard. I have a tree.
- 17:15Cara Lanyard, which was gifted to me by Ryan from Tree Cara,
- 17:20who had heard the episode and went, yeah, you guys need to
- 17:23stop hammering lanyards and I've got some for.
- 17:26You. Well, that's because he's
- 17:26probably bought 1000 of. Them and what he does is if I
- 17:33think, sorry, Ryan, if anyone does have a tree Cara lanyard, I
- 17:36would say where it to your festivals, right, because Ryan,
- 17:41if you notice as you're wearing your tree Cara one, I think you
- 17:44get a wee special under the table dramas I.
- 17:46Sort of, yeah. See, you've got our neutron, so
- 17:48there you go. But there you go, right, Ross?
- 17:50Anyway, what have you got so far?
- 17:52Sorry. Well, this is what I'm about to
- 17:54introduce. Actually brought a little bit
- 17:55for myself and then I had the call.
- 17:57I will mention what I've got then.
- 17:58So I trusted Ross. Ross is always, it's always
- 18:01great to be in the pub with Ross because it makes it a bit easier
- 18:03to choose. He pointed this out and I've
- 18:05pretty much finished. It.
- 18:06I've never had it before, but I've seen it on the shelf.
- 18:08I'm getting it in there last week.
- 18:09Yeah. What is that?
- 18:10It is Edward Hour 2. So Edward Hour 2.
- 18:14Ross was explaining to me that about, well, seven or eight
- 18:18years ago, Edward Hour put new stills in a different still
- 18:21house or built a new still. Basically double production as
- 18:25far as I'm aware because it's not open to the public.
- 18:27They took their still house, duplicated it.
- 18:30On the same. Site so sorry, sorry, sorry.
- 18:33I know it's just. 3D printed a new one.
- 18:35Really. Just literally completely
- 18:36duplicated. So basically they've taken this
- 18:38on, as I said, we need to make more whiskey.
- 18:40And so they've started distilling it on the same site
- 18:43but with new stills in 2018. And they've never released this
- 18:47whiskey by the sounds of it. But Edward I was originally
- 18:50founded in 1825. OK, so we're looking at the 200
- 18:54year anniversary. And so under a signatory, A
- 18:57Singleton bottle, not Singleton Secretary, sorry, Secretary
- 19:02bottling, we have got a 7 year old Edward Hour number two,
- 19:05inaugural release. Wow, that's bloody cool.
- 19:09And we'll see how long they're allowed to call it Edward hour
- 19:11number two, because somebody is going to kick off about that,
- 19:14yes. So Edward Dever have been still
- 19:16releasing their standard, so they're still producing.
- 19:18Amazing stuff. Producing it so is that
- 19:20effectively like almost in building a second distillery?
- 19:22Yeah, I didn't realise they were calling it a second distillery.
- 19:25I thought they'd just doubled. They'd just up production.
- 19:28Which they probably have, but they're probably interesting.
- 19:30But then they've done this bottling.
- 19:32It's a single casker, maybe not a single casket.
- 19:34It's an old 100 proof 57.1%. First of all, Sherry, does it
- 19:38taste like normal Edward Dever? It does.
- 19:39It does. It's very similar to it.
- 19:41I mean, you know, very, very what you expect from Edward
- 19:44Hour, really. It's 40 something, quite a
- 19:46bottle, maybe about £50 a bottle, 7 year old and
- 19:49technically an inaugural release.
- 19:50But from this distillery. I find that fascinating because
- 19:53people have tried to do it before.
- 19:55I don't actually remember before the sturdy distillery really
- 19:57came into reality. Speaking to Phil and Simon
- 20:00Thompson when they talked. But we're going to get a second
- 20:01distillery. We've got this site just to the
- 20:03side of Donna. I said that's what you're going
- 20:06to call it. So first I asked them.
- 20:08I didn't even know me, they said.
- 20:09Sonic too was what their initial thought was and they said we
- 20:13don't think we'll be allowed to do that.
- 20:14Why not? Glenn Grant done it previously,
- 20:17kind of the Glenn Grant A and Glenn Grant B or Glenn Grant One
- 20:20and. Glenn, what kind of Dukes you've
- 20:21got? Old Bushmells.
- 20:22And Klein leash done it and Baroda done it right.
- 20:25So when the now the new Kleinleash distillery opened,
- 20:31fifty 60s fairly modern. Well, Baroda was originally
- 20:35called Kleinleash. Right.
- 20:38So they've actually swapped. It over, Glenleigh got moved
- 20:41over and new distillery and the old distillery became broader.
- 20:43Aurora. Really.
- 20:45So everybody thinks. Of the old close.
- 20:47Distillery and so I think I believe, and I could be wrong,
- 20:51they trialled A&B or 1:00 and 2:00 and then Glenn graduate 2
- 20:56and they were told you're not allowed to do that.
- 20:58So to see Edward Edward, our number 2 inaugural release, I
- 21:01thought that's really cool. And so I'm getting something a
- 21:04bit. Different.
- 21:05I like the idea that fellow Simon just dark too.
- 21:08It's it's really, it just matches that like the story
- 21:12about and it really annoys. Me years ago.
- 21:15You know it. Really, really, really annoys me
- 21:17that until they did the until we did the indie ball or spotlight
- 21:21with them and they brought out the TBBSW.
- 21:23Yes. And I just didn't understand
- 21:25what TBBSW was. And he was like Thompson
- 21:27brothers playing the Scotch whiskey.
- 21:29We just couldn't really be bothered finding a name, but
- 21:31it's called it. And it was like it was like the
- 21:33the the name that was on the cast TBB, like whatever it was
- 21:37used. Yeah, this is TBBSW.
- 21:39That's for everybody in the in the bottling plant or everyone
- 21:41doing the bottling new. I've said bottling plant that
- 21:44the shed that they've got say or not the shed, but the small
- 21:47warehouse. But anyway, what drama have you
- 21:49brought for? Well, I should explain.
- 21:50I've got one more very quickly. I've got one more drum which she
- 21:53poured for me. Graham.
- 21:55I've got that one. You've got it as well.
- 21:56It's a 7 year old Highland Park. With the diggers, it's the
- 22:00diggers. We've got to drink the diggers
- 22:01Drum, yeah. Especially bottled by woodrows
- 22:03with Adam. It ties in nicely for us because
- 22:07it is the Diggers. Independently bought.
- 22:09It's the Diggers. Whiskey Bar of the Year.
- 22:12Whiskey bar of the year bought like by Woodrows figures great
- 22:15pub. We've been recorded 99% of our
- 22:17podcast episodes in here. Best best honestly best whiskey
- 22:20bar in Edinburgh with the second largest whiskey collection with
- 22:24the largest open whiskey collection in Edinburgh, but
- 22:28also Woody Woodrow's of Edinburgh.
- 22:30Well, our first. Ever Indy Butler from Andy
- 22:33Butler Spotlight. That's right.
- 22:34And Woody himself is about WTF moment because what episode was
- 22:39it we were recording and he. Just.
- 22:41Mike Brown. And he just poked his head down
- 22:42and it was just Woody. You know what he said?
- 22:45I can't remember what he said. He was an.
- 22:47Engineer whiskey's shite. That's it.
- 22:49That was very much a WTF moment. Woody mid recording just popped
- 22:54his head and it just went whiskey's shite.
- 22:57Just whispered in his. Ear because she's quite a lot of
- 22:59the time she when you ask him, you go to up to Woodrow Renner
- 23:01and speak to Woody and Megan understand he's really good.
- 23:04He will often reply saying it's not shaped, it's no shaped, it's
- 23:07no pesh, it's no pesh. It's not.
- 23:11Like but yeah, just I am a proud owner of a bottle of that as.
- 23:15Well, well, you you were pouring it liberally and generously.
- 23:19At the end. They bought the spotlight a
- 23:20couple weeks. I am that is delicious.
- 23:22I would I would be a proud owner of this if I had a bottle in.
- 23:25Fact. I'll tell you what there is.
- 23:26There's three 3 bottles up there I could see and they all have
- 23:29labels on them and that is the last of it.
- 23:31That's the last of it. I'm.
- 23:32Delighted to have it. We bet a digger's history as
- 23:34well. This bottling I brought in is an
- 23:37independent bottling from a bottle I don't believe we've
- 23:39ever spoken about before. Brilliant.
- 23:42And I don't think, you know, I might have brought this on the
- 23:46podcast before. I've been really annoyed.
- 23:48I don't think either of you will ever have had this before, so
- 23:55I'm not saying it's absolutely delicious, but I think it's
- 23:57really interesting whiskey. So this bottle I'm bringing is
- 24:01from a bottle called Blackadder. Oh, now we've had Blackadder has
- 24:05been mentioned. There's another.
- 24:06Bottle before this is I believe a German based bottle.
- 24:09Yeah, I think there's been a couple of, what, 3 drama?
- 24:11One, one walk through drama is, I can tell you right now, is it
- 24:14because we've got a challenge later on?
- 24:15But anyway. This one here imported to Las
- 24:18Vegas. This is AUS exclusive single
- 24:21barrel single cask. Now it's called the raw cask.
- 24:25I have actually filtered this whiskey we will see on camera
- 24:28through cheesecloth and I removed what felt like half a
- 24:31cask. In my in my opinion, this was
- 24:34still maturing in the bottle because how much cask they call
- 24:37it the raw cask because he just must cut cuss.
- 24:40This is the legendary as it's named ward head 32.
- 24:46That is, what's a ward head. Isn't it teaspoon wet Balvini?
- 24:52Correct. Brilliant.
- 24:53So Glenn Beck with Balvini rather than.
- 24:55Balvini, this is basically a 32 year old single cask Glenn
- 24:58finish. Wow, 66 bottles produced just
- 25:01for the US market. Wow.
- 25:02And I was gifted this bottle very, very generously.
- 25:05But by anyone in particular? A gentleman I won't name because
- 25:09I don't know if he wants to be named or not, who comes over to
- 25:12Scotch and does private tastings and it's quite funny.
- 25:16He didn't know that I'd left Scotch and he'd come back for
- 25:18the first time in over 2 years and said Ross, I brought this
- 25:21bottle for you because I introduced him to Burnside and
- 25:24this gentleman has travelled all over the US.
- 25:26He found this ward head 1 of 66 bottles and I think he bought 8
- 25:32of them and that took him all around the US to find the
- 25:34bottles. Wow. 48.7% so it's a blended
- 25:39malt to start lads. Sorry, but sorry.
- 25:41Sorry about look a blend. Listen, just it's.
- 25:45A small one it might not be. Well, here's the thing I'm going
- 25:48to give you. I'm going to give.
- 25:49I'm. Going to give you a nice pour
- 25:51because actually, you'll see this bottle is is over half done
- 25:55and I've still never actually had a drink of this whiskey at
- 25:58the house. But as soon as I got this
- 26:00bottle, I thought I need to share this with people that have
- 26:02been really important to me. And so the last person I got it
- 26:06was Big Cam. I knew it would mean a lot to
- 26:08him as well. Yeah, but you lads absolutely
- 26:11qualify for that now. Thank you very much.
- 26:13So it threatens to be tropical. It's quite tasty.
- 26:16It's not quite Timatin, but. It's that magic 30th.
- 26:23As I pour it down my face, I've done 2 years a little ward head
- 26:27and that's the first of three drabs so oh.
- 26:31That's very nice. It's nice.
- 26:32It's. Black guy, Black guy that
- 26:34appeared. It was George Kibble, I'm pretty
- 26:39sure. Which leads us on to the first
- 26:40challenge. I want you to do this
- 26:41systematically. Oh.
- 26:43That's good. I do feel that I have a very I
- 26:46do not have a good. I'm not like Ross, OK?
- 26:50Sorry to hear that. But I'm not, I'm only Ross in
- 26:54the sense that the recall that you have on distillery, right,
- 26:58Distillery founding day. And I don't think I have any
- 27:00ought to like, like I get accused of having these kind of
- 27:05photographic memory, blah, blah, blah.
- 27:06I'm just sad. Yeah.
- 27:08And I and I, I've got good recall, a lot of facts and
- 27:11stuff. I've got a terrible recall for
- 27:13memories. I couldn't tell you who the last
- 27:16five guests were on the pod, basically.
- 27:17Yeah, I can tell you. And.
- 27:19I try really, really hard to brush up on whiskey knowledge
- 27:22and I try and fight and I think everybody does have their their
- 27:25thing. And I'm going to leave that to
- 27:26everybody because I know that you like you guys at Scotch.
- 27:28I've been part of the game. I think we tried.
- 27:31I mean, there's a lot of stuff that got cut out of that road
- 27:35trip up to Matt. And when it was us desperately
- 27:38trying to go, you were just going through the yearbook and
- 27:39said I am this distillery I was founded in this date, who am I?
- 27:43And then we had to try and work. Oh yeah, and I managed to ruin
- 27:46it as well by. Oh, that was a player
- 27:48distillery. That was player distilleries,
- 27:49right? I find that my recall has become
- 27:51I don't know what it is. I can go in my book here, 100
- 27:55episodes of Whiskey Stories podcast in this book, Yeah.
- 27:58And I could look back and go, right.
- 28:01I could someone could mention a drama and I know that has been a
- 28:03what 3 drams and I could prep who's what 3 DRAM it was and I
- 28:07feel like I'm quite I'm actually pretty decent.
- 28:09Hang on a second, I want to. Have one last look.
- 28:11I want to go I'm actually because again, I'm.
- 28:13Going to say my dad has actually said to me before, Graham's
- 28:16recall for this for the previous episodes is unbelievable, all
- 28:19right? There you go, true to form.
- 28:21No, no, no real, you know, prep done.
- 28:25Our first recording was actually done on the 18th of October
- 28:282023. So we're not.
- 28:30We're not. Too far off.
- 28:31Not far off at all. Right.
- 28:32So that's page one. That is page one.
- 28:34I'll fold that over, right, That's episode 1.
- 28:36The rest of them, we've got 100 episodes in there.
- 28:39And so you want a random. Pick a DRAM sword and you're
- 28:42going to. Tell me who it is.
- 28:43Forgive the spelling as well, by the way, bearing in mind that
- 28:46I'm trying to. So you've picked 1.
- 28:48And so obviously some overlapping dramas.
- 28:51If I said something like old Potley 17, you'd have more than
- 28:55one answer maybe. Mark Thompson was the first old
- 28:58Potley 17 on that, he said. I remember the story, he said.
- 29:01It reminded him was like his grandmother.
- 29:04Yeah, and all that kind. Of stuff, was he the first?
- 29:05Because we did not have maybe Greg Arcott before that.
- 29:08Greg Arcott. Didn't do Poly. 17 or do you not
- 29:09do Poly 17? No, he didn't do Poly 17.
- 29:12OK, that tells you. What my recalls like Greg
- 29:15Arcott, I'm sure he did a boveny and he but what the one the soda
- 29:18that's really sticks. That was Port Charlotte.
- 29:20Yes, that's it. That's on that one.
- 29:22Yeah, Yeah, right, Ross. OK, sorry, I'm almost there.
- 29:25I'm just this is too because I want obviously not to get it
- 29:32right, because of course I would really.
- 29:34Enjoy that. Leave it.
- 29:35You would, yeah. This is difficult, right?
- 29:41But it's a great story, right? Monkey Shoulder.
- 29:44Is this Les Les who told the story before he was travelling
- 29:50up to up by him and his partner? Arctic Arctic Whiskey Club.
- 29:54Is yeah, the Arctic Whiskey Club.
- 29:55He told the story, you know, bought this bottle of Monkey
- 29:58Shoulder and I kept it until I was till I had a child for the
- 30:01first time. But that sat on my shelf for 10
- 30:03years and through IVF and all that.
- 30:05Do you know something that is like, that's probably one of the
- 30:07best, best stories that we've had on the podcast that there's?
- 30:10No, as soon as I've seen it, I thought.
- 30:11I think that was my favorite story at the time.
- 30:14It's a great and that's why that's it.
- 30:16There's there's great stories where we've had some poignant
- 30:18stories like that one, but some really funny stories as well.
- 30:21But that one there, it's, that's an easy one.
- 30:23Well done, well done. Take one eye I.
- 30:26Guess what you're thinking? He's trying to go back.
- 30:28I'll tell you what, I'll be knackered.
- 30:32I'll tell you the one, I'll be knackered.
- 30:33I think he says Bob any Caribbean cask.
- 30:35I'll be knackered because that is probably in our most yeah
- 30:38what 3 drams that's been, that's been our DRAM that so many
- 30:41people had. OK, then I'm gonna, oh, I to be
- 30:49honest. This is not great radio at all.
- 30:57This is terrible. Any whiskey.
- 31:00Any whiskey. But then I'm I can't.
- 31:02Follow that the problem. Is the problem is I can't
- 31:04remember any of these actually. Actually, I'll tell you one
- 31:09because there's a good story with this one.
- 31:11North British Signatory, North British signatory.
- 31:17You know the story N British Signatory.
- 31:20I can't believe you've done. It you know the story.
- 31:22I know the story N British Signatory, Is it Mark, Mark
- 31:25Davidson? No.
- 31:26Yeah, is it. I know the story because he
- 31:30talks about the. Well, that was a clue.
- 31:32Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's, I think he's one of
- 31:35the only that's done there. He's only the only one that's
- 31:37done the North British. But there you go.
- 31:39Now that we can sit here all night and do that.
- 31:41But I'll say, I do want to say on the on the subject matter of
- 31:45WTF moments on the podcast and things like that, I have to do a
- 31:49shout out to some guys. I think WTF moment was Scott
- 31:53Moore. Yeah, doing his doing his video
- 31:56of the of his whiskey bar. Shout out to Scott.
- 31:59Scott, when you sat there and thought there's a guy in the
- 32:03middle of America, he looks far too old and far too sensible to
- 32:07be listening to to us right about talking about whiskey.
- 32:11But he did this great video, and in the video he sort of just
- 32:14laced it full of whiskey stories.
- 32:16References and jokes, yeah. He's reference using us but.
- 32:20I have to, but he also started the trend because it was he
- 32:23started it. But then we had the whiskey
- 32:25Shed. We're Bob Cutting.
- 32:27We had Craig Darling. But then video and he kept us up
- 32:31to date with some some brilliant things.
- 32:33Even as weekend drum call week weekend drum roll call, this
- 32:36weekend references the tasting with Gordon Macphail, we've done
- 32:39what I suggest about Ardmore being.
- 32:42Like a puddle. Yeah, and he's got.
- 32:44This old Ardmore and he's stuck it in a birdbath.
- 32:47Exactly. And it's just it's.
- 32:48Just wow. Absolutely worth commending
- 32:50Scott Moyers. Fantastic.
- 32:52Yeah, he's dedication to the pod.
- 32:53Then he sent a picture in at the pod and this is when it does
- 32:56start to get mental. He'll be he'll be delighted to
- 32:58know that I'm on less episodes. Shut up, Ross.
- 33:02But he said, I'm trying to find the I took a screenshot of it,
- 33:05but he put a post up a couple of weeks ago and it needed to be
- 33:07shouted out. And the reason it hasn't been
- 33:09shouted out until now is that we haven't actually recorded an
- 33:12episode properly that we've been able to get a shout out for him.
- 33:16But he sent sent a screenshot of him with Carol Crafts, who sat
- 33:20here. Yep.
- 33:21With what him, what a lanyard got, he's got a lanyard got.
- 33:26He'd driven from Tennessee to St.
- 33:28Louis, MO. Is that right?
- 33:32600 miles. Where's this?
- 33:33Where's this screenshot? I'm trying to find the bloody
- 33:35screenshot of that 600 miles to pick up as ARD in America, ARD
- 33:41in America release. And I think like just just to do
- 33:44that is incredible. Now look, I'm not going to try
- 33:47and take any form of major credit for that.
- 33:49I'd love to, you know me, I'm quite shy and quiet with these
- 33:52kind of things. But the fact is, like, maybe
- 33:56Scott would have done that anyway, because what we do know
- 33:58is from Scott's, from Scott's bar in his house, from what we
- 34:03see Scott doing, he loves, he loves his whiskey and all that
- 34:05DRAM hunting, DRAM hunting. So there's every chance that
- 34:08Scott would have done that anyway.
- 34:09But it's the fact that like it's just bring the brings the
- 34:13community together. It's a massive effort, isn't?
- 34:15It 600 mile range. But what I love is he did have
- 34:18the he took his own land yard with him and it was like he was
- 34:21still able to go. I've just travelled 600 miles
- 34:24and I've brought my like it was that that sort of level of
- 34:26planning and detail. But that leads me on.
- 34:29So the next thing I've got here, cuz I've got some drams as well.
- 34:32Wow. And there's another bot in front
- 34:33of us here. So yeah, we've got listeners in
- 34:37Edinburgh, Glasgow, we've got listeners down South and we keep
- 34:41an eye every now and then on where the listeners are popping
- 34:43up. And all over the world.
- 34:44Is a listen in the States. We've got a message last week, 2
- 34:48weeks ago from the Tampa Bay Whiskey Club.
- 34:51Roberto who messaged me, who seems to run their, their
- 34:55Twitter account. I think he's maybe in charge of
- 34:56the Tampa Bay Whiskey Club. He said, hey, there's five of us
- 34:59coming over from Tampa to to Scotland.
- 35:01We're going to Edinburgh and we're travelling around.
- 35:03We're going up to spay sides. We're going to going to
- 35:05Campbelltown. Is there any chance we can hook
- 35:08up with you guys? You guys were busy.
- 35:10I went away and met them in diggers in the dugout where it
- 35:12all started to give them a lot 3 drams, whiskey taste, whiskey
- 35:15stories, tasting, which they loved.
- 35:16But what's great is they came bearing gifts and one of the
- 35:20gifts they gave us was a DRAM each of the Arden American,
- 35:26Arden America, Arden America 2 are bottling.
- 35:29That's cool. So we have now Arden, which in
- 35:32this very room we sat with Carol Crafts, I guess, and.
- 35:35He was not disgusted, Yeah. Cool thing.
- 35:38Yeah, not only has Carol met up with Scott Miller through the
- 35:42Whiskey Stories podcast and they've, they've they've shared
- 35:45a drama and Scott's taken a, a bottle of that stuff, but now
- 35:48the whiskey's come full circle. Yeah, yeah.
- 35:51So we've got the Arden America, Arden American.
- 35:53So 57.8% I don't know much about this DRAM.
- 35:57I know nothing because I didn't think I'd ever get to try it.
- 35:59Well, that's it. Because what?
- 36:01Well. I yeah, I because I think Carl
- 36:03did talk about it. He did.
- 36:04Just because it's the second, the second Arden America, isn't
- 36:08it? Yeah, I mean you.
- 36:09Which glass are you wearing? You want the whole.
- 36:12No, no, no, no. I'll take the other half there.
- 36:15There we go. Thank you, Graham.
- 36:17And yeah. So thank you.
- 36:18Thank you, Tampa Whiskey Club. Well, they came in and they came
- 36:22in to. Scotch, Yeah.
- 36:23Happy birthday, Ali. Yeah, Ali celebrate his 72nd
- 36:27birthday. So Venezuelan born, living in
- 36:30Tampa and they were great. And you know, they're trying to
- 36:33basically make an inclusive space or environment for people
- 36:38to drink single malt whiskey because he says there is people
- 36:40do buy it, but people don't go to whiskey tastings.
- 36:42There isn't really an atmosphere in which people can go and learn
- 36:46and sit down with like minded people or people with that
- 36:49common interest. So they've been able to build
- 36:51that community, which is amazing by the way, they've only been
- 36:53going for a year. Really.
- 36:55Well, if you look at Alley's whiskey collection, yeah,
- 36:58whiskey. These are big whiskey.
- 37:00Fans, I mean, they look genuinely.
- 37:02I mean, I mean, for example, if he came in here, his whiskey
- 37:07collection would look, this would make, yeah, Ally's whiskey
- 37:10collection would probably make what we've got in this room look
- 37:13small. The texture on that lads.
- 37:16It's absolutely incredible. Roll that round your mouth.
- 37:20That is just. Chew that.
- 37:22Oh, that. Is beautiful once again.
- 37:24Our mark kind of done it. They really have.
- 37:27I think it was Simon Smith said that.
- 37:28That's just annoying now how the others are.
- 37:31It is because. The back of that.
- 37:32Yeah. Like barbecue sauce.
- 37:34Smoke. There you go.
- 37:36I'm trying. I'm eating smoke.
- 37:38But Arden American is like that because we we, we have a mutual
- 37:41friend, Graham, that we were in the company of on Saturday and
- 37:45we had a few drums and. Like this?
- 37:48You know, we were trying them all and I poured you poured an
- 37:51odd Arden American for this guy, the AD just the 5050 and it was
- 37:57it was if you see his face, it's the same reaction as he tried it
- 38:00and he just went. What is this?
- 38:03A cracking and it was hard in the market and he'd never tried
- 38:06hard, just annoyingly good. Now that's where it becomes.
- 38:09Very, very tasty. And that's fantastic.
- 38:11And they also gave us a bottle, which we'll all have to drink
- 38:13there it. Goes there.
- 38:14It goes the big. This is a Whiskey Club Tampa
- 38:17independently bottle. Specifically, this is.
- 38:20So it's not an independent bottle, this is it's not.
- 38:23An independent. This is an official bottling,
- 38:25but it's a single cast selected by them I believe.
- 38:27Right. So it's less than single cask
- 38:29American single malt? Yeah, which again, quite
- 38:31unusual. America all the way from
- 38:32Seattle, WA. Yeah, I think it's the first.
- 38:35American Single Malt on the channel, on the channel, on the
- 38:38podcast. I think it might be but as a
- 38:39crack I'm looking forward to drinking that as well.
- 38:41But no, So again, WTF moments is the fact that we've got like.
- 38:45People coming in on Saturday and say we're from Florida because
- 38:48we've got a table for five. I go, well, that's not uncommon.
- 38:51But when they go, hi, Ross. Nice to meet you.
- 38:53We listen to the podcast. Yeah, yeah.
- 38:54I go, Oh my goodness. Yeah, we sat chatting to them
- 38:57and then and then they've got show.
- 38:59I apologize, sorry you listened to the podcast.
- 39:02Bob Cutting Bob Cutting's. Oh, what guy?
- 39:05Launch Morgan. Launch Morgan?
- 39:06I mean. I mean talking about WTF moments
- 39:09when Launch asked us to sign as well.
- 39:12I've got a video. I've got a video of it.
- 39:14I I I'd not had time to practice my signature before?
- 39:17He asked. That I'm actually, I'm actually
- 39:19quite disappointed because I didn't make it to that tasting.
- 39:21No, that was a pintail tasting. My very fragile ego had hoped
- 39:24that when Lance Morgan came back up to me, bring the bottle so
- 39:27that I could complete the signatures.
- 39:28No, he's got the stars. He's got, I mean, he's got the
- 39:32headline. He's got the stars.
- 39:34Really. So there you go, right listener.
- 39:36Questions. We've got some more listener
- 39:38questions on Facebook. And I do practice my signature.
- 39:41The Facebook. The Facebook group, I mean, I
- 39:44mean, it's just, well. While you're pulling something
- 39:46up, can I pour the second DRAM? Yeah, I need to get another
- 39:49glass, but I've got I'm really starting to take.
- 39:52I'm still parked here. I'm starting to get backed up
- 39:54here too. Second DRAM of the 100 episode
- 39:57flight. Angus is excited.
- 39:59Audio listeners. I have pulled the bottle out
- 40:01there so I have not opened this bottle.
- 40:05This is a bit of having to this math.
- 40:07Which is their new kind of facial series that came out this
- 40:11year, the Western Home Collection facial 2025.
- 40:14Now I tried they had a 19 year old and kind of cognac or
- 40:17Armeniac. They have some old stuff but
- 40:19this was my favorite by far. Totally unbeated, Bunahavan and
- 40:24Bourbon casks moved to Parlor Curtado for a few years, if I
- 40:28remember correctly. But for me, what I liked about
- 40:31it was the bourbon really shines through, which you don't get.
- 40:34And Bouda haven't. Yeah, Bouda haven't.
- 40:36It's all about. European.
- 40:37Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought this was.
- 40:39I'm doing drink an awful I've never drank an awful lot of
- 40:41boudoir haven't. I'm gonna say and I'm not, I'm
- 40:43not not for me was something that always surprised me.
- 40:46I remember once I may have been an episode that was recorded and
- 40:49never went out. I bought you just a Boone of
- 40:51having 12 because I was like, you'll try.
- 40:53You'll like this, Graham, and I think you did, but yeah, because
- 40:58it's one of, it's one of those, but it's not Peter.
- 41:01'S I know that's what I mean, but.
- 41:02It's one of these drums I'm surprised you never kind of got
- 41:05yourself on me too. I don't know what it is, I don't
- 41:07know, but it's something. It's there's a lot of Isle of
- 41:10Whiskey I want to try. Just a lot.
- 41:12I also say whiskey dad. Some of this will be coming your
- 41:15way as well. I'm not a controller about this,
- 41:17but I know that you'll like it. Super.
- 41:20So we've got colour on it. That's a non age statement.
- 41:23It was think about 100 LB of bottles, but I just I needed a
- 41:29reason to open it. Truthfully, this is a bottle.
- 41:32I needed a reason. To open it, you're good to us
- 41:35and you know something why? I'll tell you another thing.
- 41:36What I really like is there's been moments in the podcast
- 41:40where I've kind of looked at you and to check your reaction to
- 41:44then fully appreciate and understand where we are.
- 41:47And a moment that really does stick out is Loman's still in
- 41:52their name. Yeah.
- 41:53Right. Browsers it wasn't just Ross.
- 41:56I mean, Chuck Kerr was absolutely kid in the candy
- 42:00shop. I mean it was one of those ones
- 42:02where I have to admit, Graham and I Graham and I, I think
- 42:09we're having the same reaction. It was like, right, that's a
- 42:11nice that that that's a still in a slightly different shape,
- 42:15whereas whereas Ross and Chuck were absolutely baffle.
- 42:19Plates. Safe but.
- 42:26It's. Just it's like I've never seen a
- 42:29woman stuff and I've told hundreds of people about it as a
- 42:32rule for me. Like I understand that the MASH
- 42:35filter is exciting and they're different techniques and what
- 42:39they're doing. It's come from TD.
- 42:40But to see a woman still was like a the best early birthday,
- 42:44early Christmas present I could have got.
- 42:46And I understand that you don't also don't love production out
- 42:49with maturation. You must be like what?
- 42:52The well I'm starting but that's The thing is that.
- 42:53I'm very interested in. Production, by the way, that's.
- 42:57I did find it very interesting and actually the whole the whole
- 43:00inch Darney thing was a complete honour for being really was
- 43:03great getting getting behind because I I I don't know if I'm
- 43:06part of. Our release of the 1st.
- 43:07Year single mole. I don't know if I told this
- 43:09story on a pod. I've told the story before
- 43:12before, before we start doing the pod, Graham drove me up to
- 43:15the gates of Inch Darney and said there's a distillery in
- 43:18Glenrothes. But it's all very secret.
- 43:20It's all behind closed doors. Nobody knows what goes on.
- 43:23Nobody goes in, nobody goes out. I mean, kind of went up, peered
- 43:26over the gates, had a look over and that was it.
- 43:29And if you'd told me in 2 years time we'd have been having a
- 43:32kind of exclusive tour around the place, I wouldn't have
- 43:35believed you. Absolutely.
- 43:37Wee bit of water helps us, but haven by the way, I think the
- 43:39nose. But Haven is very nice.
- 43:40It's like artificial whiskey fudge to me.
- 43:43It's got that. Same.
- 43:44That was about that, right? There's vanilla, but there's
- 43:46richness. We'll start off, we'll start off
- 43:48with a straight up one. I've got Cody actually features
- 43:51a couple of times. Cody Reynolds, Yeah, the friend
- 43:52of the show. Facebook, Facebook grip here.
- 43:55So first of all, well, Jason Hargreaves, I'll say random 1W
- 43:59in food chocolate cheese dinners with paired whiskey.
- 44:03What's the best, worst, weirdest?
- 44:05We've talked about this before. We have.
- 44:06I've never really. I know you've gone for it, Ross.
- 44:09I've never really tried cheese and whiskey.
- 44:12I'm keen to, but I've never really gone for it.
- 44:14I always have to admit, if I'm having cheese, I like pork.
- 44:17I like a pork. I like pork cheese and it's
- 44:19really hard for me to go. If I was having cheese, it'd be
- 44:22really hard for me to say, you know what, I'm going to go for a
- 44:24whiskey because I do love a pork well.
- 44:26I'm OK with that honestly. Truthfully Angus, I'm probably
- 44:29the same as you. I would still grab a port
- 44:31beforehand for what I found to see with.
- 44:33I like blue cheese. I like blue cheese.
- 44:36Heberdeen Blue, Ladakh Blue is kind of my favorite.
- 44:41And if I was doing not a port, doing a big European cask
- 44:45whiskey, it's just correct. Absolutely great.
- 44:47Provided, I mean, especially because you probably had a class
- 44:49of wine beforehand. All the rest of it that we bet
- 44:51extra strength is good. Seafood's a weird one because
- 44:55I've been trying it more recently to have light fresh
- 44:59bourbon cask whiskey's with seafood.
- 45:01Yeah. And I want it to work.
- 45:05I'm still not sure I've convinced myself and I really
- 45:07want to give it to myself, but that's been interesting.
- 45:10I think the weirdest one I said that did work I've mentioned at
- 45:12the podcast before was that nila white tomato and like paratha
- 45:17salad that I had of an old poultney.
- 45:19All right. OK.
- 45:19And this is so fresh. It did work.
- 45:22And I still think for Jason's question, that cold food and
- 45:25whiskey can absolutely work and you can meet you've.
- 45:28Said this before. You've said this.
- 45:30Before, I think the issue is warm proteins.
- 45:34Nobody wants a drum with steak, lamb, chicken.
- 45:38You just, you just don't. It's a funny one, however.
- 45:42However, I will say so if Craig Darling has said pickled onion
- 45:45crisp pair well with peated whiskey, there you are.
- 45:48There you go, right? Interestingly, talking with
- 45:50food, whiskey, slight connection, I managed to bore
- 45:52the current wife the other day because we're in the shop.
- 45:55You. Have a clothes on or.
- 45:56No, no, clothes were firmly on, but I was cooking.
- 46:00I was cooking like, it was like a lentil and sausage casserole
- 46:02recipe I'd got. And I was like, it required it
- 46:05required Sherry vinegar. And we had just recorded the
- 46:08episode a few weeks and I said, do you know what's interesting?
- 46:11This Sherry vinegar, quite possibly this Sherry was used to
- 46:16season a whiskey cast before it then became Yeah.
- 46:19And yeah, I. Mean Angus, you're fantastic.
- 46:21Absolutely you. Wouldn't aboard me, Angus?
- 46:23No, Honestly, I'd had a second helping of that castle.
- 46:28So there you. Support the industry, this is.
- 46:30What I said I said we're supporting the whiskey industry
- 46:33by buying this vinegar. Doing our bet for.
- 46:39Her so I pick up on your crisp pair.
- 46:42I would say that I'm going to look into the future.
- 46:45I'm not going to name their brand of of crisp, right?
- 46:48Oh, I reckon in the future. We're looking at Christmas.
- 46:51I reckon in the future looking within your crystal ball grip.
- 46:55It's a nightmare. I try to get in and out of the
- 46:57bath but my crystal ball will tell me right that I think we
- 47:01will try crisps, crisps on the very.
- 47:03First time or podcast might fit heavily on a future episode.
- 47:08Maybe in the next week or so. Keep your.
- 47:11Eyes, I wasn't. There, there's a great
- 47:13connection, there's a great whiskey connection to Chris.
- 47:16But I would say it was a flavour and I'm not because I don't want
- 47:18to give away what the what the crisps were, but it actually was
- 47:22a treat. But one thing I will say is you
- 47:25talk about hot food pairing with Chris.
- 47:28Tell us, Ross, what hot food have you had prior to coming
- 47:31down here into the Digger's vaults before we started out?
- 47:35That's a great point, yeah. Cheese and ham toasty.
- 47:37The digger's toast. The digger's toasty.
- 47:39I would say that as I. I paired it with a Glencadam 10
- 47:42actually, it's very good. Yeah, there you are.
- 47:44Now let's take this really highbrow now, OK?
- 47:48Connie Reynolds, a man who knows a thing or two about whiskey,
- 47:51has asked this question. His wife knows a lot.
- 47:53His wife knows his wife is an awful lot.
- 47:55Would you say more? Yes, you're saying?
- 47:58I would say more. More you.
- 48:02Say that. Cody's wife knows more about
- 48:05whiskey. 1,000,000. Percent shout out to Moore Moore
- 48:09Reynolds Moore Reynolds Swedish whiskey girl.
- 48:11Always been a guess. Been on the bottom.
- 48:12But Cody has asked what whiskey both bottle would be the best
- 48:17weapon to fight off a bear. 100 episodes in, Cody, and that's
- 48:22what you ask for. Well, 100, we've tried some
- 48:27fantastic whiskeys on this podcast, we've had some of the
- 48:29most, we've had Master Blenders and every award-winning Master
- 48:34Blender show it is. We've had his master blender.
- 48:36We've had this. Master Blender.
- 48:37Yeah, yeah. That's an important question,
- 48:39Abby Graham. It's an important question.
- 48:40It's an important. Question.
- 48:41I've got an answer. Don't shut the question, Ross
- 48:43Go. For me it has to be an Octomar.
- 48:46No, there's why. Well, forget about the whiskey
- 48:50for a second. On my shelves in Scotch, Optimal
- 48:53is by far away. The tallest bottles I have,
- 48:56right? So we'll keep the bear at the
- 48:58furthest length. Okay?
- 49:00Also order. The throat like a javelin.
- 49:02You're right. Also, oh, I thought that was
- 49:05just hand in hand combat. Well you, I didn't think of it.
- 49:08Throw you throw a bottle and run away.
- 49:09Well. Surely the answer is what bottle
- 49:12would you kill the bear with? Beat them to death?
- 49:14Well, we. Don't want to kill bears in the
- 49:16pods, you know? But please protect bears.
- 49:20Please, please fight bears and whiskey bottles responsibly for
- 49:23me, I. Mean if you're in a situation
- 49:24where it's life or death, then you know, obviously.
- 49:28Throw the ball and. Look after yourself and.
- 49:29Obviously often we're always cast strength, very potent.
- 49:33I don't know, I don't know what Bearsbury has in it, but imagine
- 49:35something along the lines of Optima, right?
- 49:38And and it's a very tall bottle. So for that kind of fencing
- 49:41technique, I imagine. You're going for life.
- 49:43Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, keep the bear.
- 49:45I mean, you can't. The answer can't be.
- 49:47That's a bottle of. I see, because I'm going to
- 49:48Chuck. It well away.
- 49:49Just. Jenny Darling did say another
- 49:52Craig, probably Glenn Ruffus. Just launch it like a grenade.
- 49:56Oh, that's true, because it's dumpy.
- 49:57Yeah, and round. I'm going to say the Bear
- 49:59probably wouldn't mind. Yeah.
- 50:02Well, Graham, do you have a, do you have a suggestion?
- 50:03I'm going to go through some of that Dougie Little.
- 50:06Because I have a few theories. Going then.
- 50:08Well, I know one of the theories.
- 50:09I just want to say somebody, some really, really.
- 50:12Good questions that we should ask.
- 50:13Well, let's no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 50:16No, let's let's let's dwell on this a wee bit.
- 50:18Somebody somebody suggested for pure heft of bottle.
- 50:21I think someone mentioned inch derny because it's a big heavy
- 50:24bottle. King glassy.
- 50:25King glassy. Yeah, and you could use that as
- 50:27a weapon. You could start with a stopper.
- 50:28But what I would say as well, if you if you maybe you don't want
- 50:32to bludgeon the bear, maybe you want to draw blood, right.
- 50:35So you're no. So you want to break the glass.
- 50:39Maybe you just want to tall, round, stabby, easy, easy to
- 50:43break the glass, easier to break than a king glass.
- 50:46If you had a rock next to king glass, you went like just go
- 50:48Dong. Whereas if you had a tall round,
- 50:52you could just go and then stab the bear in the nose, give it a
- 50:55bloody nose and it would be off running home.
- 50:57The other suggestion I had when I thought of this was I said go
- 51:00with a Royal Mile in Edinburgh, one of the really tatty whiskey
- 51:03shops they're surely got. To be.
- 51:05There's surely got to be a whiskey bottle decanter in the
- 51:09shape of a salmon and. Then if.
- 51:12You've got that. The bear's going to like,
- 51:14there's my dinner. It's a great.
- 51:15Answer and then and then. That'll buy you enough time to
- 51:18run away. Definitely decanters of
- 51:19Edinburgh Castle that could entertain the bear.
- 51:20Nessie. Yeah, there's an essay.
- 51:23Have you seen the Nessie? Nessie Decanter.
- 51:26Nessie Decanter looks distinctively like a shite.
- 51:29All right, drop it. Yeah, there we go.
- 51:33If any a drop it can't. I wouldn't be a bad one, right?
- 51:36We've lost. So that was right.
- 51:37I. Would like to apologize to 100.
- 51:39Episodes. We made it.
- 51:41That's far before it decided. Before, before the, you know,
- 51:43the bear community came out. The bear community is something.
- 51:48The bear community is something different.
- 51:50Right. Anyway, we've gone down our bear
- 51:52hole and we need to sort of get ourselves out of this.
- 51:55I think, I think, I think, I think the King Lassie bottle
- 51:58probably does win it. It's a heavy.
- 52:00Going yeah. Let's move on.
- 52:03Okay, let's move on from that. Thank you, Cody for your great
- 52:07question there. Will you be at Edinburgh Whiskey
- 52:11Festival again this weekend? Nadia Douglas I'm afraid not,
- 52:13Nadia, apologies for that. Do you think a whiskey festival
- 52:16where the ticket price was lower but you had to pay per tasting
- 52:20would be accepted over here? Interesting.
- 52:23When we were at Lohman and Clyde Whiskey Festival yes for Ola
- 52:27from three cars there and they had a Braval 30 on their on
- 52:31their stand and they'd. Only brought 1 bottle.
- 52:34Only one, but they had it was a fiver for A10 mil measure and
- 52:40she said she was very surprised, pleasantly surprised.
- 52:42At how? Many people are willing just to
- 52:44tap a lot. She had the wee Salam machine.
- 52:46Just tap it, go £5 and you got your drama.
- 52:49That 30 year old whiskey and I think for the five that's.
- 52:51A great. I'm getting in some fantastic.
- 52:53Whiskey and what what? Yeah, I would say that for the
- 52:55for the right whiskey, I think people was quite happy to pay a
- 52:58price like that. I think the issue is Scotland
- 53:01and Scottish people. Yeah.
- 53:02And I think, I think as well, you're right.
- 53:04People on yard goes at the end of the day just walking about
- 53:07thrusting drams. And if you're paying a fiver at
- 53:1014 different stalls or 1012 different stalls, very quickly
- 53:14it becomes an expensive. Genuinely, I think I haven't
- 53:18seen it at Sofia Whiskey Fest. You get a better clientele in
- 53:24terms of people who are not getting hammered and they're
- 53:26taking whiskey more seriously. From a whiskey brand point of
- 53:31view, I believe that in a European whiskey festival is
- 53:34really what they're referencing. What you're said is lesson 2
- 53:38more because people are paying for the draft.
- 53:41I always think it's more important.
- 53:42A lot of time, Scottish festivals, what have you got?
- 53:46What's most expensive, What's the oldest?
- 53:47Put it in my glass and listen, we're part of that and how good
- 53:52does it? It's brilliant, but I think it's
- 53:55wrong and I think that the rest of Europe does it right and you
- 53:58go to. Germany.
- 53:59You go to Germany, you go to Holland.
- 54:00But also the people appreciate the product more, and we
- 54:03appreciate it because we prefer to quit a ticket.
- 54:06You get an unlimited whiskey for six hours.
- 54:08That should never be how it's seen, no?
- 54:09It should be. You can drink.
- 54:10It should be. I wonder what's on offer today.
- 54:13I wonder what we can get. And so normally the ticket price
- 54:15is much lower in Europe and then you pay by the DRAM and also the
- 54:17DRAM price is always very low. So you're still getting
- 54:20everything for three or three to €10, but it's you're getting it,
- 54:25you're getting a proper drama that and you're going right tell
- 54:29me about it. And I think that's more valuable
- 54:31for the brands and for the. Consumers it comes back to Jason
- 54:33Hargraves question which triggered the lanyard chat.
- 54:36We spent probably far too long talking about lanyard chat than
- 54:39than the than the crux of his question, which actually was at
- 54:42the time, you know, is there a is there a whiskey festival
- 54:46plan? Can you get a sort of plan put
- 54:48together for what you're going to do?
- 54:49And there's people that I've met that we talked about this.
- 54:51And I think if you knew you were having to pay per DRAM, bearing
- 54:55in mind after a few drams, you could just get silly, You know,
- 54:57you're just like, oh, staff and go, I'll just quickly tap that
- 54:59one, tap that one. But I think if you knew and
- 55:02maybe knew, right, there's this, that and the next thing and
- 55:05there's a conversation that we're going to have later on
- 55:07about, you know, whiskey festivals and what they could
- 55:10look like and things like that. Going to quickly move on to a
- 55:13couple other questions here. Stuart McGregor, who's very
- 55:16active and also Stuart, congratulations on losing all
- 55:18the weight. I know that we've been in the
- 55:20whiskey stories chat. Well done for He's he's followed
- 55:23a very similar as your dad there is trying to reward himself
- 55:27whiskey if he gets over or below a certain way.
- 55:29You have to give us each your number one drum and your
- 55:32absolute no go drum that you have had in the last 100
- 55:35episodes. I can name you the No Go Drum
- 55:37very quickly and unfortunately it was one that you brought
- 55:42Graham and it came back. It came from India and it was
- 55:45absolutely foul. I can't remember which one
- 55:47specifically it was. It.
- 55:50Was like. In a royal.
- 55:51Royal stag there. Was royal stag There was Royal
- 55:54Challenger, which was a challenge.
- 55:55No, but we didn't have Royal Challenger because I didn't
- 55:57bring that back. But there was.
- 55:58There was three, I think it might have been royal stag, I
- 56:01can't remember. If you listen back to the
- 56:03episode one, one of the three was very, very rough.
- 56:06Yeah. And that was actually one of the
- 56:08one of the whiskeys that I've tried and I've I would spat it
- 56:13out. Truthfully, I need to be a bit
- 56:15more diplomatic than I used to be, but also I couldn't give a
- 56:19hoot about Avangetic avangetic Avangetic still it in their
- 56:23Hebrides and I thought the. Whiskey.
- 56:24I've not tried it and I'm I'm curious to try it, but probably
- 56:27only once Chuck's got a bottle. I was totally, totally offended
- 56:34by the whiskey. Right, I thought it was.
- 56:37The guys at night or Hebrides in 2029?
- 56:41It's one guys operation. He's produced a 10 year old.
- 56:47I've never heard of the study before.
- 56:48I had the manager put in front of me by Cameron and Cameron
- 56:51said do you drink this all right?
- 56:53So, well, I'd say that I, I would go for one of the Indian
- 56:56ones as well, but I would say on the podcast when I bought,
- 56:58actually I bought the 1.75 liters of old smuggler, Old
- 57:03smuggler. That's harsh on old smuggler I
- 57:04think. That or.
- 57:05Was it great? But I would say that, I mean the
- 57:07thing about old Smuggler is it was it was very nondescript.
- 57:10I'll tell you what I'll tell. You what was it?
- 57:12But it was an. Offence I will absolutely tell
- 57:14you about. No drama at the 100 was my own
- 57:16cask of Oh my Well yes Erin covered cast.
- 57:20That's so sad. Graham's Butler, Naz.
- 57:25Exactly the one where I tried to get us to try that, it was we.
- 57:28Were cotton fresh trying? Killed at the time recording.
- 57:30That, yeah, that, that that was quite.
- 57:33Number one, number one for the that we've tried on the pod.
- 57:37Tried on the pod? Oh fair enough.
- 57:39Sorry I said I haven't tried on the pod on the pod tasted best
- 57:45DRAM. I think the Burnside that Fraser
- 57:48bought was brought in was very good. 27 year old Burnside.
- 57:50Yeah, it's. Hard to follow the way back.
- 57:53I had so much Glencadam off the shelf and Diggers, yeah, which
- 57:56been brilliant. I think my winner, not for it's
- 57:59the best DRAM ever, but for trying it for the first time.
- 58:02A pod Is Glenn going white oak? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that Yeah,
- 58:05yeah, yeah, I, yeah. It's so hard to think of 1W
- 58:14stories blinders up there. I think for me, it's hard not to
- 58:22go for an ardent American of some description.
- 58:24I'd agree. And I and I, there was a drum
- 58:27that we were given when when we had Carl crafts on very
- 58:31recently. I feel I'm very recently biased
- 58:33here. There is a there was a Madeira
- 58:35cast and I just absolutely adored it.
- 58:39Carl very kindly gave me the end of that ball.
- 58:42Yeah, I take that whole I last, I have to say I last about six
- 58:46months. I'll also say the little milk
- 58:48for me and you as one. Of the best, I'd say that little
- 58:50milk that we have, it's probably incredible little milk.
- 58:55But, but I mean, we've been absolutely.
- 58:57Spoiled by spoiled stuff, I would say.
- 59:00I had one on the tip my tongue there to talk about.
- 59:03There it was, the he. Said Ard American.
- 59:07No, there's Ardon. No, it was Ardon.
- 59:08Markan's throwing me off the scent because there was one.
- 59:11Well, I've got to go with the Tomatin 6 virginal because it
- 59:16was it was a whiskey gasm that I had.
- 59:18And what I really, really liked about that, and I tell you what
- 59:21I really, really, really liked about that is that I've since
- 59:25that for a few people who are in the industry who have all given
- 59:29me a little bit of affirmation to go, yeah, get that one being
- 59:32Mark Thompson when we're in his house for his.
- 59:34Tramp what another I'll make another nomination.
- 59:37And I can't remember pretty much anything that we tried, but when
- 59:41we did the first. But honestly, about any of them
- 59:45could have probably been about the best thing that we tried
- 59:47When after after we recorded the first episode up in Dornick with
- 59:51the Thompson brothers. Oh, they put all that on the.
- 59:53Table and they put they put a selection of their.
- 59:56Releases on the table 1976 Tematin for the Japanese Whiskey
- 1:00:00Club. And there was just, I mean, it
- 1:00:02was one of those ones where Chuck was like try this, try
- 1:00:04this, try this. And I tried about 5 drums, but I
- 1:00:06didn't even know what I was trying.
- 1:00:08And they were all gorgeous. There was and it was like, it
- 1:00:12was like each drum was better than the next.
- 1:00:15Chuck will never, ever forgive me for finishing the Tematin
- 1:00:17that day. When I went I've had.
- 1:00:19Before, but I guess I'll finish it.
- 1:00:21It was absolutely. Phil Simon looked after.
- 1:00:23That but Phil and Simon just. Was there a quick one?
- 1:00:27Well, no, there's a few longer ones.
- 1:00:29You've got a. Next final DRAM of the three of
- 1:00:32the 100 episode Whiskey Flight by Ross Barr.
- 1:00:34And you've had this before. I brought this back from Isla
- 1:00:39two years ago. This is the Bo More Facial
- 1:00:4420/24/19 year old. I think it was four or five
- 1:00:49years in bourbon and the rest in virgin oak.
- 1:00:51And that's just one of the best peated whiskeys I've ever.
- 1:00:54Had do you think I think that when you offered this out, I was
- 1:00:57probably not in the peated? City, You were not even
- 1:00:59pretending to like Pete. Yeah.
- 1:01:01So I was probably, so this is completely lost on me.
- 1:01:04So this will be, I might have been, I might be trying this for
- 1:01:08the last, I might be trying this for the very first time tonight.
- 1:01:12Because there's loads of time in Virgin oak, there is space we
- 1:01:15touch of water, there's tropical fruits and you know, that's what
- 1:01:19I'm always looking for. I've got I've got a question, a
- 1:01:22couple of questions here from Craig Darling.
- 1:01:23Thompson Brothers and Living Souls have just collaborated on
- 1:01:25a blend. With that in mind, what
- 1:01:27collaborations would you like to see in whiskey?
- 1:01:29Personally, for nothing more than local pride, and even
- 1:01:32though I find pale ale cast maturation to be patchy at best,
- 1:01:35I'd like to see going Clint Jake can collab with Winton Brewery,
- 1:01:39my local craft brewery. So collaborations.
- 1:01:44What kind of things would we like to see?
- 1:01:46Any, anyone, anything that points out?
- 1:01:51No, I'll tell you what. Go on.
- 1:01:54I'm going to go 100% Fife on this one.
- 1:01:56Oh, wow. Daft Mill and Quaker Oats.
- 1:02:00I'd like, I'd like to see. I'd like to see a whiskey
- 1:02:04porridge. Right?
- 1:02:07Surely Scottish porridge oats, Graham.
- 1:02:09Quicker oats quick. No, because quicker oats
- 1:02:11factories in Cooper. Oh, is it?
- 1:02:12Right. And Fife and not very far away
- 1:02:14from where Daf Mill is produced. So I would be saying there
- 1:02:18Quaker Oats and, and incidentally, we have to say
- 1:02:21Angus and I were on a bus trip up north for a game of football.
- 1:02:25We were, and we stopped in Carbridge, yes, on the way up
- 1:02:29there. Lovely part of the world.
- 1:02:32Two or three drops a. Lot earlier and we stopped off
- 1:02:34at Carbridge and we were informed that it was going to be
- 1:02:36very busy and it was very busy than usual because we've been up
- 1:02:38there a few times and it was because the Golden Sparkle World
- 1:02:44Championships porridge making competition was going on at the
- 1:02:46weekend. Wow.
- 1:02:47Yeah. That's good.
- 1:02:49One buyer and it was an Australian with the honourable
- 1:02:51to the Norwegian. Or was it Norwegian because we
- 1:02:53bumped into the Norwegian fans. Hi, we bumped into the Norwegian
- 1:02:58fans in the pub which was streaming the live feed from the
- 1:03:04from the but but but the golden sparkle.
- 1:03:07But because they were streaming this, it meant that the pill
- 1:03:09table was out of order. Yes, we could.
- 1:03:11But there there's my collaboration off the top of my
- 1:03:13head. Craig, I'm going to go, if seen
- 1:03:15as you've kept it local, I'm going to keep it local.
- 1:03:18Fife, Fife whiskey mixed with pottage oats, set a golden setup
- 1:03:22or anything like that. We're going to go Daft Mill 15
- 1:03:26porridge from Quaker Oats, right?
- 1:03:31Oh, Ross, what collaborations would you like to see?
- 1:03:37I've no idea, honestly. It's so hard.
- 1:03:40Whiskey's great, everybody else is fine by itself.
- 1:03:43You've got a collaboration bag behind you.
- 1:03:46Oh, merch. Oh, I mean, I'd love some
- 1:03:49Bailey's merch, I think. Yeah.
- 1:03:54Well, this is it. Maybe is Is there a whiskey you
- 1:03:57would like to see as an as a cream liqueur?
- 1:04:00Well, actually what I tell you what.
- 1:04:02Because I know you love your cream liqueurs.
- 1:04:04Right. Well, adding gold is the.
- 1:04:05Answer I know what iron gold is but is is there another whiskey
- 1:04:08that if that could be a cream liqueur?
- 1:04:10I feel as a manic whore I would. I should say that a manic more
- 1:04:14cream liqueur would be pretty saucy, but no, honestly I'm fine
- 1:04:23with it. Spending more time in Stocky B
- 1:04:26in Stockbridge, in Edinburgh, just out in Newtown.
- 1:04:30Maybe, say Severinos is quite big now.
- 1:04:32So. The Severinos in Stockbridge
- 1:04:33through Detroit slice. So again, that's Kennedy from
- 1:04:37Michigan. So it's got that.
- 1:04:39Connection as well. So maybe a a Detroit Slice
- 1:04:43whiskey collaboration? Yeah, hot honey with whiskey or
- 1:04:46something like that. I guess you want to.
- 1:04:48Share I'd like to be able to cook with whiskey more
- 1:04:50confidently. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:04:51Fair. So some kind of ingredient based
- 1:04:52whiskey collaboration? Yeah.
- 1:04:55I mean it. Doesn't have to be food.
- 1:04:57Yeah, I have no. Idea.
- 1:04:58OK, well Craig's asked the second question.
- 1:05:00For a while I've been hoping that Arden American would
- 1:05:02release an unpeated bourbon matured whiskey so we can really
- 1:05:05see what the spirit is all about.
- 1:05:06It looks like with our upcoming Heritage Barley release that my
- 1:05:10hopes may have come to reality. To that point, which brand now
- 1:05:13release, brand new release would you create for a particular
- 1:05:17distillery and why? God great.
- 1:05:19Yeah. Tough old questions.
- 1:05:21Tonight it's awful Questions. Fascinating.
- 1:05:24So a current brand, yeah. And I alter the what they're
- 1:05:27doing right now. Yes, you've got to look at it
- 1:05:29and say, what would you like to see?
- 1:05:31I mean, I think I know what your answer could be, right?
- 1:05:36I don't want me to give you what I think your answer if Aberlauer
- 1:05:38decided that they were just going to do 100% bourbon
- 1:05:41release. Yeah, it's a great answer.
- 1:05:42If Aberlauer said answer, we're just going to right, we're going
- 1:05:45to bring out our release of what would it be Aberlauer 12
- 1:05:48Aberlauer 1411 just to. Leave if you want it's it's so.
- 1:05:52Good Aberlauer and bourbon. Aberlauer and bourbon is really,
- 1:05:55really good. I would say I would like Aaron
- 1:06:00just to release more whiskey, right?
- 1:06:02Just more. My one would have to be, it
- 1:06:07would have to be something that doesn't really do peated whiskey
- 1:06:10doing something kind of medium peated.
- 1:06:14I'm trying to think of the right distillery because actually when
- 1:06:17I think of all the distilleries, they kind of do like Murray God.
- 1:06:24This is another pass for you. I guess That's two passes.
- 1:06:26You answer the next. One professions are.
- 1:06:28Different. They are, they are.
- 1:06:29They're good. I would say from my point of
- 1:06:31view, just on the back and with Jake Adkook in mind as well with
- 1:06:35you've already mentioned the Glen coin white Oak.
- 1:06:37I would love to see yeah, Tam Do going down a similar route just
- 1:06:42to see what it's like. I know that there are Tam Do you
- 1:06:44can buy independently bottled. Yeah, Tam Do's in bourbon.
- 1:06:47But what I'd love to see is like a Tam Do with an American oak
- 1:06:51heavy sort of influence on it. Do you know what I'll say?
- 1:06:54A petered ball, Blair. All right, OK.
- 1:06:56I'd love to. I'd love to see it.
- 1:06:58I'd love to see it. I will also say it what?
- 1:07:00Would it be? I think McAllen has some of the
- 1:07:02best spirit in whiskey. I'd love it if McAllen were
- 1:07:05limited to £100 a bottle, whatever they produce going
- 1:07:08forward. All right, OK, an angle of like,
- 1:07:10listen, release nothing or release something, but if you
- 1:07:12release something, it's got to be under her to quite a bottle.
- 1:07:15And I bet you bloody tasty whatever they choose to know,
- 1:07:17Yeah. Right we're going to and then
- 1:07:19we're going to go in this one going back to one of the
- 1:07:21earliest that this is from Bob cutting show it to Bob who's
- 1:07:23actually coming up very soon. We need to see Bob going back to
- 1:07:26one of the earliest episodes. Cody Reynolds spoke about the
- 1:07:29journey that people go on with whiskey.
- 1:07:31Which of you has done that? Now I check this as I was coming
- 1:07:36back as I was coming in. Cody was absolutely Cody was
- 1:07:40episode number. I've got here 123.
- 1:07:45Nope, 4-5 Cody was episode #5 filmed the only time recorded.
- 1:07:53Sorry, the only time we recorded in Bennett's bar.
- 1:07:56And that's true. Jug bar.
- 1:07:59They don't go in the wee dug. The jug.
- 1:08:00It's called the Jug I. Believe it was.
- 1:08:02It used to be the women's section of the bar.
- 1:08:05Genuinely, yeah. You're right.
- 1:08:07Oh, you're probably right. Yeah, four seats is.
- 1:08:09Now, Cody, Cody talked about this journey that the whiskey
- 1:08:12drinker goes on and I'll be honest with you, right?
- 1:08:17I think that I think that's my, you may have been on it.
- 1:08:22It's a great episode to go back, by the way, to go back and
- 1:08:24listen to Episode 5. I've actually got an answer for
- 1:08:27The Who I'd like to see as a whiskey collaboration.
- 1:08:29Go on. As you know I'm a football
- 1:08:31supporter of Wraith Rovers and they've done a couple of whiskey
- 1:08:35partnerships. They've rare find as they've
- 1:08:38done a few releases. I would like to see Wraith
- 1:08:41Rovers Football Club release with Fuji Gitenba Distillery.
- 1:08:48Yeah. Make it.
- 1:08:49Happen. If anything, we.
- 1:08:50Make pretty extend, but collaborate with your household
- 1:08:53like it's just like, yeah, I like it.
- 1:08:55There we go. I'm gonna.
- 1:08:56Is there any connections between Rick Rovers and Japan?
- 1:08:58No, I don't know we've ever had the Japanese anyway.
- 1:09:00Look, no, the one rule we've made absolutely certain is we
- 1:09:03don't talk about football on this.
- 1:09:05But no, we don't. So well done and we're getting
- 1:09:07to 100 episodes and. Breaking the Golden Rule.
- 1:09:09But yeah, I'm trying to find the the, the sort of the, the
- 1:09:13because it was, it was fascinating.
- 1:09:14Cody really did break it down and annoyingly I feel like I've
- 1:09:20referenced that my personally myself, I feel like the thing
- 1:09:24about Angus was. Starting a big cast type.
- 1:09:27No, no, it was more. It's more like it's Blaine
- 1:09:30starts in your cheek. Blaine.
- 1:09:31Yeah, right. And then moves into this area,
- 1:09:33moves around. I'm trying to find the
- 1:09:35transcript, actually listen to this on the way in.
- 1:09:38And I want to give it justice, because the annoying thing for
- 1:09:41me with you, Angus, is that you already took to the Pete
- 1:09:46Twiskey. Yeah, I kind of started with the
- 1:09:48Pete Whiskey, really, if I'm being honest.
- 1:09:51Yeah, I mean. In an odd sort of way.
- 1:09:53So, so even in the even within that I've had a bit of a kind of
- 1:09:58change of where I am with it because I wouldn't say, you
- 1:10:04know, I would say there was a point in time where I want I
- 1:10:07wanted it to be as peated as possible and to kind of reach
- 1:10:12for the stars with the Pete going towards more of those kind
- 1:10:15of oxymor releases etcetera, etcetera.
- 1:10:18But actually I've kind of retracted my kind of preference
- 1:10:22and I would say I'm more into my kind of medium peated whiskies,
- 1:10:27you know, maybe do you know what I mean not.
- 1:10:29At that moment, as well as just. I wouldn't say I'm a fan of
- 1:10:34heavy peat. Well, there you go, if you do
- 1:10:36decide to put it so, he said. Some people developed, some
- 1:10:38people will never pass certain points.
- 1:10:40OK, that's fair enough. But if you do decide to push
- 1:10:44past, you can go in a sort of merry go round of once your
- 1:10:47palate's fully developed and that you can really appreciate
- 1:10:50good blended whiskey. So it starts off like, so it's
- 1:10:52good blended whiskey. So then I asked, where are you
- 1:10:57in? Fact I'm.
- 1:10:59Trying to, I'm trying to find this, but basically, yeah, you
- 1:11:04go through, you go. Through all the different.
- 1:11:06Variations where it comes right and then you end up back at
- 1:11:09where you sort of started again. But on the more appreciate like
- 1:11:12she's basically what Cody was saying is you start on you start
- 1:11:15on blinds because they're cheap and easily accessible.
- 1:11:17Sure, brands like so maybe a Johnny Walker Black label or
- 1:11:21anything like that. And then you move on to like
- 1:11:22your single malt, then it moves on.
- 1:11:25I have to say that like with maybe taking the blind blind
- 1:11:29starting point away, but very much you're easy going.
- 1:11:32You're, I don't know, you're Glenn modern G10.
- 1:11:36You're Glenn Modern G. 10 you're all.
- 1:11:38Contortion. Glenn Murray.
- 1:11:41Not even Glenn Murray. Like that was like, my start was
- 1:11:44one to 10 because that's old boy in this pub.
- 1:11:47Just yeah. Exactly.
- 1:11:48Just easy going easy. To get into.
- 1:11:51Lots of ice, lots of water, all contortion.
- 1:11:53The sweetness of that cane opened up.
- 1:11:55Then I moved on to like Sherry casks there.
- 1:11:58Glenn, Glenn Allockey As I've said, I used to think I was like
- 1:12:02sort of like aficionado of whiskey because I like the drama
- 1:12:04that you really. Had to try and I think.
- 1:12:06That's normal. Great.
- 1:12:07I really do. No, but this is a cycle I tell
- 1:12:08everybody like see when. I first.
- 1:12:10Came to Scotch at 1819. And I knew that Balveni had a
- 1:12:1312141721. I thought you ever heard of
- 1:12:16whiskey? Yeah, I thought, yeah.
- 1:12:18But now I realise I know nothing.
- 1:12:20So that's I believe I understand.
- 1:12:22But it's one of the more. You learn, you know.
- 1:12:25Absolutely nothing. But then as your palate develops
- 1:12:27like because. I'm the one of the group.
- 1:12:28That's probably. Suddenly, unless you like to
- 1:12:30point out I've gone from being the sheriff.
- 1:12:32But you were saying even with this, this is before he even
- 1:12:34started pretending to like, be like opening up to Pete Twiskey.
- 1:12:38Yeah, there's been a total game changer.
- 1:12:40And it's very, very interesting. I mean I I.
- 1:12:42Started, as you know, from a point of beat and it was chasing
- 1:12:46the point of Pete like that. It was chasing the Pete.
- 1:12:48So I went to I like. And.
- 1:12:51I came back, yeah, with water and I mentioned trying.
- 1:12:56Our big I. Know discovering I liked it
- 1:12:58thinking thinking thinking yeah this is what I like I really.
- 1:13:02Like heavy whiskey, but. Then it's the coming back down
- 1:13:06and Graham obviously really liked to Sherry whiskey.
- 1:13:08So, but because of you, I tried a lot of kind of heavily Sherry
- 1:13:11whiskeys, really like them. Yeah, really, really like them.
- 1:13:13Glen Allocys, etcetera, etcetera, set me into that kind
- 1:13:16of down that alleyway as well. It's quite funny.
- 1:13:20There's there's whiskeys that we've offered a mutual
- 1:13:22appreciation. For probably Glenn Cannon and
- 1:13:25and and in Glen going that have come at best through the podcast
- 1:13:27aren't American obviously through the rise of the
- 1:13:30reputation anyway. Glenn Murray as well Glenn
- 1:13:32Murray since obviously since Stephen.
- 1:13:34I think a lot of people. Gave money.
- 1:13:35Glenn Murray. A chance again after listening
- 1:13:38to Stephen Fox. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:13:39My father being one of those, always disregarded Glenn Murray
- 1:13:42because I drive. He came back and gave a go.
- 1:13:44It's fine. I've never.
- 1:13:45Been a peated whiskey fan? No, and you could argue that I'm
- 1:13:48fairly set in my ways when it comes to whiskey.
- 1:13:50That's why I always quite liked asking peated whiskey when Angus
- 1:13:54was there, because I like the way Angus talks about peated
- 1:13:57there. You will say that there.
- 1:13:59I think that, my pal, I think you would.
- 1:14:00Work best together? Absolutely, because.
- 1:14:02I think my palate. Is immature to.
- 1:14:05Peated whiskey and reality is I should just drink more of it,
- 1:14:08but I don't because I'm greedy. Look at me, I'm greedy.
- 1:14:12I drink what I enjoy which is ridiculous spoil ash level
- 1:14:17whiskey a lot of the time. But I like speaking Angus.
- 1:14:20Where? See this M&S Kilhomen.
- 1:14:22Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joked about for about 10
- 1:14:24episodes at one point. Lovely.
- 1:14:26I would never buy. That I would never buy that
- 1:14:30almost because if I'm going to buy Kilhomen, I'll try and buy a
- 1:14:32specific. One because I tasted.
- 1:14:33It but also, I would never buy Kilhomen because it's going to
- 1:14:36last me 10 years. But you're going to finish the
- 1:14:39bottle Kilhomen this week. But you enjoyed it and you could
- 1:14:41pick flavor. What was it after?
- 1:14:42Absolutely. I joked about you being a shady
- 1:14:44tart. I was exactly the same.
- 1:14:46Yeah, we were. But I mean, Cameron Ewan was
- 1:14:48exactly the same as you. Everybody was exactly the same
- 1:14:51as. You goes, oh, how much flavour
- 1:14:53is there? And I think when you're a new
- 1:14:56palate to whiskey, I know you all talk about having a weakness
- 1:14:58with your nose, but your palate's decent grade.
- 1:15:00You're probably harsh on yourself.
- 1:15:01But when you drink a whiskey, it's big and full and probably
- 1:15:04matured in European oak. You go, that is flavour.
- 1:15:07I can feel that. And that's where you almost get
- 1:15:09confidence in yourself when you're drinking those kind of
- 1:15:12whiskeys. You go, I get it.
- 1:15:14I think that Ian Bartee talked about the drill down method.
- 1:15:17And it's something that I've really, really, really tried and
- 1:15:19I don't, I can't get to that yet.
- 1:15:21But what I do like is the fact that, and I think This is why we
- 1:15:26haven't turned into a whiskey. You know, I think people like to
- 1:15:33hear reviews and I think that. Reviews are something.
- 1:15:35That we should probably do a little bit more of, but reviews
- 1:15:38in the right way and there's a place and a time for reviews.
- 1:15:40There's plenty of people who listen to this podcast who do
- 1:15:42their own reviews, and we absolutely welcome that.
- 1:15:45But what I would say is that one of the things that we tried
- 1:15:47desperately for 100 episodes, we've steered as far clear to
- 1:15:50that as possible is sitting swirling the glass and giving it
- 1:15:53the old, I'm getting this and getting this and getting this.
- 1:15:55And that's why wanky tasting notes are what we try and
- 1:15:57produce. But at the same time, I'd be
- 1:15:59lying if I said to you, I haven't been trying very, very,
- 1:16:03very hard, but I'll, I'll taste something after I'm told what I
- 1:16:08could be tasting. Might, might be an impression of
- 1:16:12I might be an impressionable character.
- 1:16:14You might say to me, you're going to taste, you're going to
- 1:16:16taste cola Haribo on this. And I'll go, Oh my God, I get
- 1:16:19that. And you can be totally talking
- 1:16:21rubbish, but you give me this, this, this, this bowl more.
- 1:16:24I'd get the tropical like a touch of water, 2 bits of water.
- 1:16:27Yeah, tropical like that. But what I would say is that you
- 1:16:31know when, when you, when we, we try and break down a.
- 1:16:33Whiskey out what I just. Want people to get is the fact
- 1:16:36that there's a really nice situation between the three of
- 1:16:39us here where there might be people who listen to watch this
- 1:16:41they go I relate best to Angus yeah right.
- 1:16:44I relate best to Ross or I relate best to Graham in terms
- 1:16:47of what whiskeys I like. And if someone goes if if
- 1:16:50Graham, Angus or Ross, if Angus is sitting there going, I love
- 1:16:53that. That's an absolute.
- 1:16:54Then there might be someone sitting home going.
- 1:16:56Yeah, well, I like like, I think I like what Angus likes.
- 1:16:59And that means I, you know, that might.
- 1:17:01Work for me that. And I think that's an important
- 1:17:03thing. And that's what Christopher
- 1:17:04Coats said here on this very podcast on In This Room, is
- 1:17:07that, you know, it's not it's and we need to, I need to be
- 1:17:10better that I think as a podcast over the next 100 episodes,
- 1:17:13Angus and I, we need to be better at that by being a little
- 1:17:15bit more critical because I think for the 1st 100 episodes,
- 1:17:18we've been very, very kind, right?
- 1:17:20Where we'll go. That's not for me.
- 1:17:22It's not for that. You said in last week's episode
- 1:17:25that what was that? Ardmore.
- 1:17:26Ardmore's like drinking from a puddle.
- 1:17:28Ardmore's like drinking from a puddle.
- 1:17:30And I'm going. You can't.
- 1:17:31Say. That you can, and I say you can.
- 1:17:34Fraser Robson, the godfather of. Scotch in the camera, he's for
- 1:17:38he's, you know, Cameron Ewen says that he's forgotten more
- 1:17:41about whiskey than Cameron knows.
- 1:17:42I respect for his opinion, but he is a teacher's, an Ardmore
- 1:17:46fan, fine. And that's the opposite to my
- 1:17:49palate, but I mean, I. Like blue?
- 1:17:51Cheese. Yeah, Yeah.
- 1:17:54But I would say as well, and it's it's it's.
- 1:17:57Almost. It's almost.
- 1:17:58I mean, it's not a cliche. But it's a very often.
- 1:18:01Mentioned drama especially for what, the drums, but I've never
- 1:18:04really you've got the hype around Balvini Caribbean cask.
- 1:18:08It's just never done it for me. Same.
- 1:18:10There you go. Yeah, Jake and I, I love
- 1:18:12Balvini, but. I mean, look, it's but then I
- 1:18:15joke about Balvini. About Caribbean Cask.
- 1:18:17Because I'll get the people who. You guys wouldn't do this.
- 1:18:19You would have done this previously.
- 1:18:21People that come into Scotch and go actually, son, I know about
- 1:18:24the whiskey. I go behind the bar and I'll say
- 1:18:2880% heel on our Caribbean cask. Because people that know that a
- 1:18:32little. Bit that's actually a comfort
- 1:18:33zone for them somewhere that, you know, I think it's
- 1:18:35interesting 100 episodes in, if I had started a podcast with two
- 1:18:39people that were in the whiskey industry, but you guys now are
- 1:18:43in whether you like it or not, whether you like it or not.
- 1:18:45And you guys have both, you both created influence and you've
- 1:18:48worked in some of the biggest festivals in Scotland, massive.
- 1:18:51There's no way it would still be happening.
- 1:18:53I think the reason and it'd be interesting.
- 1:18:55I think the reason people like this podcast is because it is 3
- 1:18:58different opinions with a mutual appreciation for something that
- 1:19:02we all love and we all want to know more about.
- 1:19:05I mean I I, I, I. Think I've learned so much on
- 1:19:09the. Pod because I was saying to
- 1:19:11Graham me too. Actually, the other day I was
- 1:19:14just kind of looking at a few bottles I'd bought and just with
- 1:19:17that added knowledge of what I know now.
- 1:19:19Yeah, looking at what I maybe picked, there was a couple
- 1:19:22bottles I picked. I I picked up a bottle at the
- 1:19:24Johnnie Walker Princess St. 2019 or 2020.
- 1:19:29It was a 20190. This is a cracker of Kragenmore
- 1:19:32and I'd. Gone into that.
- 1:19:34And I'd said to the guy, oh, I like petered whiskey.
- 1:19:36I want something just a wee bit. I said, pick this up.
- 1:19:40It's like petered Kragenmore. Yeah.
- 1:19:42Which? The special release.
- 1:19:43Yeah, Special release. Now I thought Cragenmore did.
- 1:19:46Always. Maybe they did.
- 1:19:47Two weeks of petered whiskey. Maybe they don't.
- 1:19:50No, it was just so. This this this was this was
- 1:19:52barley. That was meant to go to
- 1:19:53Talisker. Talisker.
- 1:19:54Had to slow down production due to water shortage.
- 1:19:57That barley ended up going to Kragenmore instead and being
- 1:20:01distilled. And this is and I was like, that
- 1:20:04is so cool. I had no, I had no idea I had
- 1:20:07this bottle. Like I had no idea I had such a
- 1:20:09cool bottle in the house. I just thought this was a
- 1:20:11distillery that the old Pete had released and that was one I'd
- 1:20:14picked up. But no.
- 1:20:15And I was like, wow. And again I was looking picked
- 1:20:19up what I've been on around. I picked up distillery exclusive
- 1:20:25Bushmills. Finished in Acacia wood and
- 1:20:28we've talked about different woods, not oak, you know, Maple
- 1:20:32Leafs from Glen Murray. And I was like, I had no idea
- 1:20:36that I had something finished in a different.
- 1:20:38There wouldn't be whiskey here. That wouldn't be whiskey here.
- 1:20:42It's I mean the lessons that we've.
- 1:20:43Learned. I mean, what would you say?
- 1:20:45I guess between the two of us, but even just as our license,
- 1:20:49what would you say is something that you've got wow, like a
- 1:20:51lesson, something that you do now regularly drinking whiskey
- 1:20:56versus the thing, the thing I would say and again, this comes
- 1:20:59down to this maybe comes. Down to a bit of noticing things
- 1:21:02on a bottle. I now know the difference
- 1:21:04between refill, first fill, second fill.
- 1:21:07OK, Yeah, yeah. And I did not know what that was
- 1:21:11two years ago. I couldn't even begin to explain
- 1:21:13what that was. I would have seen that on the
- 1:21:15bottle and gone. I don't really know what that is
- 1:21:17but but even between virginal refill first fill, I just had no
- 1:21:22idea what I meant. I didn't know.
- 1:21:24I just, it was beyond my comprar.
- 1:21:27I knew what Sherry was. I knew what bourbon was.
- 1:21:30That was about it. Yeah.
- 1:21:31Petered. Petered, not petered.
- 1:21:33I did not know that. But actually knowing that and
- 1:21:35when I see something now and say that's virginal, I know what
- 1:21:38that will be like. Yeah.
- 1:21:39There's a you can relate. I know what that.
- 1:21:41Yeah. Fair.
- 1:21:42That's. Refill.
- 1:21:43Yeah, I know what that means. I know what that that that that
- 1:21:46because there's a difference between trying it and then being
- 1:21:48told about it, because I would have seen.
- 1:21:50I would have seen something before and.
- 1:21:52Maybe a bottle and it would have been refilled Sherry.
- 1:21:54And I said, Oh, well, that's going to be Sherry.
- 1:21:56I wouldn't have known the difference between refill Sherry
- 1:21:59first full Sherry. Yeah, fair.
- 1:22:00I would say there's a wee. There's a wee track now that I.
- 1:22:03Do and I guess Greg got cut. Don't be greedy at these things.
- 1:22:10Right, and and finish. Your drums, right?
- 1:22:12I love that there's an element of, and I'm really wanky about
- 1:22:17it, where I'll maybe look at other people, be like that
- 1:22:20idiot's finished all his drums and won't be able to go back and
- 1:22:23try, try the other, try them again.
- 1:22:26Because sometimes that the joy in being able to go back and
- 1:22:30try. And I've said it before, I'll
- 1:22:32say it again, you know, I feel I always show an element of
- 1:22:36sympathy for the first drama on the lineup.
- 1:22:38Struggling there big man. Do you want me to have a go?
- 1:22:43Is it a court? Is it got a child lock?
- 1:22:46Is it like? Like.
- 1:22:48Opening a good I guess stick it between.
- 1:22:52Sorry, how's your? Saying no, but I'm just.
- 1:22:54Thinking. You know what, Ross, you've put
- 1:22:57on. Some we've been really lucky to
- 1:23:00be part of spectacular tastings. At Scotch Bar.
- 1:23:02Yeah, and I think that of course.
- 1:23:07What the hell? Oh.
- 1:23:08My goodness, you're. Actually, the only boy that was
- 1:23:09gonna. Show this podcast.
- 1:23:10That goes to the gym. Who's Jim?
- 1:23:16Who's Jim? This is.
- 1:23:19We might, we might. So for the.
- 1:23:20Visual for the audio listers. What's?
- 1:23:22Happening combination for this. Unable to open this bottle.
- 1:23:25Is it a screw cap? Have you got some?
- 1:23:30Purchase on that at all? Is it a screw cap?
- 1:23:34No idea. No.
- 1:23:35This is no take. This back let me let me.
- 1:23:39Cut this off and see, I'll do some.
- 1:23:40More investigation. Big thanks to that dummy ball.
- 1:23:44Whiskey Club Taba Bay for giving us the.
- 1:23:46The the ball, ball that was. Locked an elaborate hoax.
- 1:23:49They've come all the way to play a trick on us.
- 1:23:51I tell you what I would say going back, I would say going.
- 1:23:53Back in a taste. And I think there's been some
- 1:23:56some whiskeys that I would probably.
- 1:23:58Look at and. Go I don't like that first time
- 1:24:01round, but then getting the hang as a screw top.
- 1:24:03That's a screw top getting a chance to.
- 1:24:13Listen to the pod Ross is just using using his index think
- 1:24:16finger in. His thumb, just lightly.
- 1:24:19I must have listened that for you.
- 1:24:22All right, Greg listened that for you.
- 1:24:23Sounds good by the way, but. I would say that and I would.
- 1:24:26Say that you're right. I have put on some excellent
- 1:24:28tastings you have, You really have.
- 1:24:30But there was. I wrote it in the in.
- 1:24:32The Whiskey Stories podcast, just a big drop for me.
- 1:24:37Thank you. Are you going to win the land?
- 1:24:38Yard forever. I'm never taken off the land.
- 1:24:41Yards are the way forward, but I.
- 1:24:42I wrote it in the Whiskey Stories newsletter a few weeks
- 1:24:45ago. It was an element of I was
- 1:24:47trying really hard not to be wanky and not to be spoiled, but
- 1:24:49I was spoiled monkey. I was.
- 1:24:51I was invited along to a tasting with print, part of the POD
- 1:24:55camera and Ewan and, Oh, Private Client.
- 1:24:59Yeah. And it was a Blair Athol 20
- 1:25:03Singleton, probably old Singleton.
- 1:25:04No, it was a. It was a.
- 1:25:08Distillery exclusive release, not Singleton at all.
- 1:25:11So it was, it was a, it was a like a Glennard or something.
- 1:25:15Was it Blair Athol? I mean the Blair Athol. 20 You
- 1:25:18know Talisker for. Sure, there, yeah, but there
- 1:25:20was. No, there was a it was a manic
- 1:25:22Moore. Oh.
- 1:25:23OK, then pre Ultima, pre Ultima 1990.
- 1:25:26Or 1991 kill. And it was like a 20 year finish
- 1:25:29in Virgin Oak, which is mental. I didn't stuck at the drum roll
- 1:25:32call. I didn't.
- 1:25:33I was trying to be really good, but not just.
- 1:25:35Looking too wanky because I. Felt very spoiled at that that
- 1:25:37night. But, and again, maybe it's me,
- 1:25:41maybe it's me trying to be contrarian and all this kind of
- 1:25:44malarkey because there is an element of this.
- 1:25:45And this is where, like, the mental effect of whiskey can
- 1:25:49come into things where you sit there and go, oh, it's
- 1:25:52something's nice to go with that there.
- 1:25:55The. 41 year old Talisker wasn't the best drama of the night.
- 1:25:59I think it's interesting right? There was a 41.
- 1:26:01There was 3 drams on the night. There it is there.
- 1:26:04It was, it was. And actually I think I think
- 1:26:07Blair Athol, 2200 LB A. Bottle.
- 1:26:11And I and I think when we've been at taste since Graham manic
- 1:26:13more. 19 if we've. If we've got 5 or 6 dramas,
- 1:26:16we'll rarely say the. Same dramas, our favorite.
- 1:26:18Yeah, it's great. And I like that.
- 1:26:19And then Talisker 41, right? And it's easy to sit there and
- 1:26:23go. Talisker 41 is the best drama
- 1:26:25the night, but at the same time going leaving a little bit in
- 1:26:29the glass for that Blair Athol and going back to it, it meant
- 1:26:35it made Blair Athol the fave my favorite drama that night.
- 1:26:38Maybe because it was the cheapest nonetheless than it was
- 1:26:41the only one that was probably within my budget if I was to
- 1:26:43ever try and buy. Yeah, I think Blair Athols, but
- 1:26:45it's excellent. I've done a similar thing with
- 1:26:473030. Eight-year Glen Order 20, 7 year
- 1:26:50old Talisk and 20 year old Blaid Athleon.
- 1:26:52I thought Blaid Raffle was the best.
- 1:26:53Yeah, it's so common to do a testing with people and they go,
- 1:26:55oh, isn't a 30 year? Old good.
- 1:26:58And I probably do enjoy going. I don't think it was that good.
- 1:27:01Well, it says you just have to be honest with yourself.
- 1:27:03But also it tells a story. Where the?
- 1:27:06Confidence in sticking. To your own opinion and be able
- 1:27:08to justify it. Eduardo, who's been on the
- 1:27:10podcast, Eduardo and I, when we talk about whiskey, very rarely
- 1:27:14agree. Yeah, good.
- 1:27:15But I almost always understand where he's coming from.
- 1:27:19That's good. And because where?
- 1:27:20He says, well, actually, that's because.
- 1:27:23Because. Of this for me actually, well, I
- 1:27:25like it because of that. For me, XYZ.
- 1:27:27So the best whiskey tastings and the way I get most out of a
- 1:27:31whiskey is when I'm having it with somebody of a differing
- 1:27:34opinion. Yeah, it's about cough syrup.
- 1:27:37And I I think this tastes like fratella.
- 1:27:40Purple. Frotella, which is like
- 1:27:42starbursty kind of cells. We're talking, we're talking
- 1:27:45about the kind of like something about cosmetic.
- 1:27:48There's a bit kind of pine Poly. Kind.
- 1:27:50Of pine needles, Yeah, I. Think it's really?
- 1:27:53Tasty so. This is Westland.
- 1:27:56I guess you did the. Maths on this because it doesn't
- 1:27:58matter that it's 62 point so yeah proof 124.2% but it does
- 1:28:04have the percentage on 60 I was impressed with you because
- 1:28:07you'd. I thought you'd worked out in
- 1:28:08your head. I've just looked at the label
- 1:28:10and myself. I hadn't looked at the label.
- 1:28:12I was a math above you at school.
- 1:28:14Yes, a math ever looking at ever talking American, but I'm not
- 1:28:18I'm not that bright. Well, I'm not that quick, but I
- 1:28:21SO142124 point 2% proof, which works out to be 62.1 percent,
- 1:28:2662.1%. That's a damn good American
- 1:28:29single malt. Yeah, like that.
- 1:28:31Ross tot right. Ross, go and get an Instagram
- 1:28:33question. An Instagram.
- 1:28:34Question. We have an excellent question.
- 1:28:36We have to rattle through some of these because we are fast.
- 1:28:38Approaching like and actually there.
- 1:28:40Was there was a previous and a serious?
- 1:28:43A more serious answer without trying to wind up Graham on my
- 1:28:46collaboration. I would like to see going back
- 1:28:49to kind of, you know, we talked about woven.
- 1:28:50We've had a woven on world blends blending different
- 1:28:53whiskey. I would like to see more kind of
- 1:28:55Scottish Irish blended whiskey together.
- 1:28:57Just see what see what I can do. Interesting.
- 1:29:00Ross shaking his head. So is it the case that people
- 1:29:04have tried it and? They've never done it that well.
- 1:29:06Scotch and Irish, but maybe they just haven't.
- 1:29:07Found the. Is it a bit of needle there?
- 1:29:09Is that a? Bit like, well, they started it,
- 1:29:11we perfected. It right that's but.
- 1:29:14Is that an help? Because I mean, you look at like
- 1:29:15there's. There's some good Irish scout
- 1:29:17that's great Irish scout there, but at the same time.
- 1:29:19I'm in Ireland and we don't. Talk about it made too much,
- 1:29:22really. You've not you're.
- 1:29:23Not seeing. An awful lot of what you've
- 1:29:25just. Talked about.
- 1:29:26Where? But you're not.
- 1:29:27That's what I'm saying. You're not.
- 1:29:28But we've seen Scotch and Indian whiskey.
- 1:29:30We've seen Scotch. The Lakes distillery once.
- 1:29:32Done a Welsh, English, Scotch and.
- 1:29:34Irish plant and it was not memorable.
- 1:29:38Ali Baxter. Ali Baxter Has that been done as
- 1:29:41a novelty? More than?
- 1:29:44And is there maybe if someone actually?
- 1:29:46Seriously thought it's a great. Idea.
- 1:29:48If someone seriously thought you know what, let's approach.
- 1:29:51This from a. Point of view that isn't going
- 1:29:53to be isn't going to be a novelty let's lead with flavour
- 1:29:57and try and build something I think that is nice in theory
- 1:30:01that. You could do a flavour LED
- 1:30:03project like that, but the reality is it's all marked and
- 1:30:07even even though it's risky, right let's we have to crack on
- 1:30:09Alistair Baxter big. Question.
- 1:30:12Well, it's going to take us some.
- 1:30:13Time what are you hoping to have done Slash tasted slash been to
- 1:30:18by episode 200 So let's let's say what are we hoping you'll
- 1:30:22have tasted by for 200? Oh God, what would have tasted?
- 1:30:27Well, I'll tell you that's right.
- 1:30:28Right, Angus and I were talking about this, and I apologize in
- 1:30:31advance for the people who are watching and listening to this
- 1:30:33because I do not not want to sound, but I'm going to sound
- 1:30:37like a spoiled whiskey brat here, right?
- 1:30:42There are two decades of whiskey that Angus and I have yet to
- 1:30:48sign off on. Oh, that's true, right?
- 1:30:5140s and 50s. So.
- 1:30:52No, we've. Had.
- 1:30:55We've tried everything up. To the age of 70 years old.
- 1:30:58We have not tried a 70 year old whiskey and an 80 year old
- 1:31:01whiskey. OK from the OK from the podcast.
- 1:31:06So. Basically it sounds horrendous
- 1:31:09to be like, oh God, look at us. But at the same time it's
- 1:31:13accelerate that what we've managed to do is accelerate our
- 1:31:17basically managed to get managed to convince a lot of people to
- 1:31:19give us some very, very, very nice drums.
- 1:31:22But I think we had a 60 year old whiskey a tasting.
- 1:31:24It was a 60 year old Caledonia. Yeah, single, single grain.
- 1:31:29We were treated to client live at 50 year olds.
- 1:31:32You will be able to. I think you will be able to try
- 1:31:34a 70 year old. Whiskey in the next 100
- 1:31:37episodes. I think there is no chance on
- 1:31:41earth that you will get to try an 80 year old whiskey.
- 1:31:44Well then it's taken us nearly two years.
- 1:31:46It's taken us nearly two years to do. 100 episodes me, there's
- 1:31:50people that are that will. Never try 80 year old whiskey.
- 1:31:54Well that's our challenge then, isn't it?
- 1:31:55I've had an 80 year old whiskey once.
- 1:31:57Yeah, so we can. I won't.
- 1:31:58I don't think I'll ever try it again.
- 1:32:00There's probably 4. Releases.
- 1:32:01Ever. That have been over 80 years old
- 1:32:03yeah two generations we've got to try and find that gallon yeah
- 1:32:07that's that we're on the. Hunt.
- 1:32:08It's a good name. He said what he said.
- 1:32:10What you hoping for? Well, what?
- 1:32:11Are we hoping for you want to try 70 and eight?
- 1:32:14Yeah. Cheers Ally.
- 1:32:15I know much Ally, I know. Much you.
- 1:32:17Know quite humble guys we would. Just quite like to try.
- 1:32:20Let's get. 70 year old hold your 60 year old.
- 1:32:23Yeah, if you've got a. 60 year under no interest.
- 1:32:26If you want to. Give the more, I'll give a
- 1:32:28slightly more humble answer and a slightly.
- 1:32:30More vague answer and I would just you know, I think we've had
- 1:32:33some great experience where we've tried whiskey straight out
- 1:32:37of the cask in a warehouse. I would love to have a couple
- 1:32:40more of those yeah, just just to be just for the experience.
- 1:32:45Here's one and we've done it, and we've done it before, but
- 1:32:48I'd. Love to be able.
- 1:32:49I'd love to just do that again. I've got a serious one.
- 1:32:52I think we can do an achievable 1.
- 1:32:54I would like to go to Orkney and scuba.
- 1:32:58Well, I'll be standing in the boat watching.
- 1:32:59You can't just put something. In your ears.
- 1:33:02This is the other side of Allie. Baxter's question because he
- 1:33:04says where would you like? To go as much as well, I'll tell
- 1:33:07you, I'll tell you. I think we've probably got the
- 1:33:09same answer. Well, I've been there before,
- 1:33:11but Graham hasn't been. To Isla, well, I was going to
- 1:33:14say going behind the same question answer there what?
- 1:33:16I would like to do is I think we're going to really go for it,
- 1:33:19right? I'm going to episode 200, right.
- 1:33:22Bearing in mind it's taken us nearly two years to do episode.
- 1:33:24Yeah, get to episode 100 in the next two years we're saying
- 1:33:28right, we're looking at out of the cask in Iowa, right?
- 1:33:32Yes, out of the cask and I tell you what right here's here's out
- 1:33:37of the cask in in a warehouse in every region in Scotland, right.
- 1:33:42So out of the cask in Iowa, out of the cask in Campbelltown, out
- 1:33:46of the Cask in Space site. Or can I scoop up?
- 1:33:48We have to give a buy. But Sherry and Harris the right
- 1:33:53now and finally done finally to tap it off.
- 1:33:59Out of the cask and Tennessee, Kentucky, Kentucky.
- 1:34:05Yeah. And the next 100 episodes, two
- 1:34:07years. We've got two years to do that.
- 1:34:09Yeah. Well, do you know I?
- 1:34:11Like it? I really like it.
- 1:34:12You're. Coming out for four years old
- 1:34:14and episode. 200 skipping out and again.
- 1:34:16This is part This is a little bit pie in the sky.
- 1:34:19And I would love to go to Japan with Graham.
- 1:34:23Oh, I Japan would be nice. I, it would chop me, you chop
- 1:34:26Ross. And also, I'd like us all to go
- 1:34:29to India. I would do India, I think US, I
- 1:34:33would love India. I would like to.
- 1:34:34See us in the. In the.
- 1:34:36Blowing fields. Of six row barley in Rajasthan
- 1:34:41and then heading off to see the monkeys.
- 1:34:44My pets are in Indian actually. I'd love to do India.
- 1:34:46Yeah. What was the second part of
- 1:34:48this? Question.
- 1:34:48Where would you? So what would you like to have?
- 1:34:50Tasted we've kind of covered. You want to chase?
- 1:34:53And the oldest, most expensive whiskey ever produced.
- 1:34:57What would you where would you like to have?
- 1:34:59Been, I've said Orkney. I would love to, like, I'd love
- 1:35:03to do an episode on a boat. Yeah.
- 1:35:05Like in our scuba gear. Yeah.
- 1:35:08Yeah, I think that's achievement.
- 1:35:10Yeah, I've. Got a snorkel you?
- 1:35:11Have. I think that is achievable.
- 1:35:12I think that is great content. By the way.
- 1:35:15Keeping it. More achievable, I think Harris
- 1:35:17is a great. I need to.
- 1:35:18I need to. It's more achievable and then
- 1:35:21Orkney. No, Orton is very achievable, I
- 1:35:24think how I have to say that's. Right, see you after that
- 1:35:26episode I absolutely were talking about.
- 1:35:28When Charlie trip to Spain, Chuck went.
- 1:35:30I'll maybe publish this. Chuck went mental.
- 1:35:32About. Me not being able to scuba in
- 1:35:35Orkney and I was looking at artwork for the podcast.
- 1:35:42I reify these pictures so when they ChatGPT and I said great, I
- 1:35:47took there was a screen grab of the four of us sitting.
- 1:35:50In this room. I said take this, four of us and
- 1:35:54put us in Orkney, but wearing scuba diving gear, drinking
- 1:35:58whiskey, and it was horrendous, right?
- 1:36:00It was absolutely all right this, but really, really, really
- 1:36:05bad. OK, you may see this I mean.
- 1:36:07I mean I need to try and find that.
- 1:36:09Offensive to. All of us.
- 1:36:10Well, and then, but I think also and.
- 1:36:13I mean this with the greatest. Respect in the world, but then
- 1:36:16my prompts to try and encourage us to look more realistic.
- 1:36:19We're also extremely offense. Make him bigger.
- 1:36:23Really. His beard is ambition.
- 1:36:27Yeah, or Orkney would be great. And I think I think as well.
- 1:36:30There's a great whiskey. Road trip in there because at
- 1:36:32the end of the day, so Alex says what are we hoping to have done
- 1:36:35right tasted and been to. So what we hope to have done, I
- 1:36:38think more distillery trips, it sounds like more warehouse
- 1:36:41tastings. I think it would be really
- 1:36:44interesting to do maybe an other distillery spotlight.
- 1:36:47Absolutely. Well, I mean, I'll tell you
- 1:36:49this, right? We are in 2020.
- 1:36:50Five, we are two distilleries away from Hen 12, which would.
- 1:36:56Be A1 distillery a month. Throughout the year, right,
- 1:36:58which I think's very achievable bearing.
- 1:37:00I mean we've still got spade bar distillery to release.
- 1:37:04Oh, you haven't released that yet, which is still sitting
- 1:37:06there ready to go. So there's there's two
- 1:37:08distilleries left between now when as we're recording on 6th
- 1:37:11of October to get done. So if anyone who's sitting there
- 1:37:14listening thinking we should get you guys around for for the
- 1:37:16distillery tour, there's a whiskey stories podcast thing
- 1:37:18and there's if we can hit 12 distilleries in one year.
- 1:37:20Brilliant. OK, because we, we hit it was
- 1:37:24January that we did Porter leaf nice.
- 1:37:26So it'd be nice to do a full year of distilleries.
- 1:37:29I would say in terms of events, one of the things that has been
- 1:37:33fantastic is in the last 100 episodes, our indie ball or
- 1:37:36spotlights. If you look back at the ringers
- 1:37:39that we had to pull in to get to, to get to get meet in the
- 1:37:42room effectively for the for the woodrows of Edinburgh and all
- 1:37:47spotlight and and that's something we've not discussed
- 1:37:50selling out to. Selling out the, you know, the
- 1:37:53selling out there. Yeah, the the the Indie bottle
- 1:37:56Spotlight is a probably my. Fate to record a probably my
- 1:37:59favorite episode, but I also leads us on very importantly, we
- 1:38:02have an event that. We haven't really talked about.
- 1:38:04We haven't talked about at all, in fact.
- 1:38:05Now tonight is a big landmark for us, right?
- 1:38:09It's episode 100, however, we will be celebrating our 2nd
- 1:38:14birthday and we have a birthday party planned where we have
- 1:38:17taken over Uno Mass. So we are doing the first ever
- 1:38:20Whiskey Stories podcast takeover.
- 1:38:22We've got a stage, we've got people coming.
- 1:38:24We've got a few brands involved. I can't release too much
- 1:38:26information on that, but it's going to be a night where
- 1:38:28there's going to be 40 to 50 people who are going to come
- 1:38:31along and enjoy some drams. It's going to be a Whiskey
- 1:38:33Stories. It's going to be Whiskey Stories
- 1:38:35nonsense. Ross Right, That sounds about
- 1:38:38right. It's going to be us.
- 1:38:40I'm mucking about on a. Stage with some guests.
- 1:38:42There'll be lots of games involved, there'll be lots of
- 1:38:44fun involved, there'll be whiskey involved and stuff like
- 1:38:46that. So we've got that, but it's
- 1:38:48like, where can we, you know our whiskey?
- 1:38:51What can we do? We've had.
- 1:38:52We've had the Tampa Bay Whiskey Club coming over and we've done
- 1:38:56a tasting with them. We've actually got Scott Moore.
- 1:38:59It is meant to be coming over in November, which we're going to
- 1:39:01be really looking forward to. Yeah.
- 1:39:02We're going to do some content around that.
- 1:39:04Yeah. We've had people contact us.
- 1:39:06We've got people, listeners all over the world.
- 1:39:07But we've got like, Launce and his lovely current wife, Sandra.
- 1:39:10I've come up twice now for an indie bottle spot, you know?
- 1:39:12Can we go somewhere and do an event?
- 1:39:15Can we go to London and do an event?
- 1:39:17Can we go to Iowa and do an event?
- 1:39:18Can we go up to space? Imagine doing phase.
- 1:39:21Yeah, I know phase would be phase would be.
- 1:39:23Absolutely. Unreal.
- 1:39:24Imagine. Doing something that the Whiskey
- 1:39:27show in Paris. Well, you know what, Angus?
- 1:39:29You're absolutely spot on. How's your fridge?
- 1:39:32Terry Blah. Mad mad.
- 1:39:36That's it. But I did German at skill Ross.
- 1:39:39Here's a here's a question for you, right.
- 1:39:41Because we are a. Fast approaching 2 hours, right?
- 1:39:43And of course, on this podcast, we have we have done we have
- 1:39:46done episodes abroad because we. Did an episode and Cologne,
- 1:39:50Cologne. I've done an episode in
- 1:39:52Bangalore. Yeah, right.
- 1:39:53But. I'd like to travel, but my
- 1:39:55question here is right. Here's a question I asked
- 1:39:58Whiskey Paris Live and the Whiskey show in London have just
- 1:40:02finished and everyone's talking about these being two biggest
- 1:40:06big whiskey shows. Why are the biggest?
- 1:40:09Why are the biggest? Whiskey festivals.
- 1:40:12Probably in the world held in Paris and London.
- 1:40:16And yet here we are up in Scotland as the people that are
- 1:40:19producing Scotch whiskey. We are in the capital city.
- 1:40:22Why is there not nothing there? I agree.
- 1:40:24Yeah, now could boggles. The mind grain.
- 1:40:28Well, I want to do the whiskey store.
- 1:40:29This weekend I want it's. A fucking disgrace.
- 1:40:31I. Want to do the whiskey store
- 1:40:34this weekend? Yeah, I want to do and I think
- 1:40:37we've. Been to enough whiskey festivals
- 1:40:38and there are some fantastic whiskey festival out there where
- 1:40:41we I don't want to do another whiskey festival because there's
- 1:40:44enough good whiskey festivals there for sure.
- 1:40:46We don't need to try and add everyone in there, no, But I
- 1:40:48think there's something that we can do.
- 1:40:50There's enough people that especially if they've got to
- 1:40:52this point of. This episode, you are probably a
- 1:40:55fairly vote listener because this is a celebratory episode.
- 1:40:58It's not got a guest. There's enough people.
- 1:41:01OK, If we're going to do a big whiskey event next year and you
- 1:41:05are going to come from all over the UK, maybe all over the
- 1:41:08world, what do you want to see that you've not been offered
- 1:41:12another festival? Yeah.
- 1:41:13I mean, my opinion and my idea would be to have a festival.
- 1:41:18Don't share too much. It's all.
- 1:41:20It's not just. Put your glass.
- 1:41:22Around and go around all these stands it's you're there for
- 1:41:25three hours and you've got 3W story sessions with the brand
- 1:41:30and they tell their brand story and you get ridiculous liquid
- 1:41:33and it's more formal and it's more educational because you're
- 1:41:36more interested. Well, I think, I think, I think
- 1:41:39you're right, but I think there's room I would.
- 1:41:41Look, what I love is I love, I love whiskey fringe.
- 1:41:47I love whiskey fringe. In the concept, I love whiskey.
- 1:41:50Fringe in the. Concept that it's multiple day.
- 1:41:52Right. And I love that.
- 1:41:53People will maybe go for multiple days or there's days
- 1:41:55where you know, you get the trades, you get the punters and
- 1:41:57you get what have you. I think there's I think there's
- 1:42:00legs in that. And I think you have to look at
- 1:42:01that and say, and that's why I'm planting the flag right now.
- 1:42:04The Whiskey Stories podcast Ali Baxter if you're if you're
- 1:42:07listening Ali Baxter. Oh, get in touch with sweet.
- 1:42:09Yeah, well, also, but like I think that there's.
- 1:42:12Something to be said for. Let's let's ask questions.
- 1:42:15Let's do more. No, let's do more.
- 1:42:17Let's let's do let's do a whiskey stories Edinburgh like
- 1:42:20whiskey pub trip crawl, not crab, but whiskey pub there.
- 1:42:23But also, like you said, let's whiskey stories originally 100
- 1:42:28episodes ago, my idea of whiskey stories when we when we started
- 1:42:31was actually really diving into the history of whiskey stories
- 1:42:34because that's what really got me into.
- 1:42:36But actually what we've ended up accidentally falling upon is
- 1:42:39getting people on here to tell their story.
- 1:42:42And it could be a brand that's telling their story.
- 1:42:44It could be an individual that's telling their story.
- 1:42:46And what we're doing is we're bringing people that are a bit
- 1:42:48closer, bringing people closer to other.
- 1:42:50And that's something that we can offer Whiskey stories, podcast
- 1:42:52experience, the whiskey stories, but.
- 1:42:54Exactly. That's exactly.
- 1:42:56And I think there's definitely, definitely likes in that and.
- 1:42:57There's enough people that I think we have that we'd be able
- 1:43:00to come back. But what I want to finish off,
- 1:43:01what's the been for distillery trips?
- 1:43:03Would there be an appetite? You let us know in the Facebook
- 1:43:06group where she saw these podcasts on Facebook.
- 1:43:09Would there be an appetite if we're going to go into a
- 1:43:11distillery, come with us that you want to come with us?
- 1:43:13Yeah. Is that something that people
- 1:43:15would want to do if we could organize just so that it's maybe
- 1:43:18not normally open or whatever we want to do and we get a group of
- 1:43:20us going up? Yeah, Yeah.
- 1:43:22But look, I'll tell you what you know I'm going to finish on.
- 1:43:25Robo CJ who sent us are very nice.
- 1:43:27And also I'd like to say thank you to everybody who sent in
- 1:43:30questions and things like that. And if we haven't read them out,
- 1:43:33I do apologize. We've havened on and on and on
- 1:43:36for nearly two hours here. We do try and keep them under 2
- 1:43:39hours now, but Robocj said for me, finding your podcast was a
- 1:43:42highlight. I found that during a time last
- 1:43:44year I was bedridden due to health issues and I was back and
- 1:43:47forth to hospitals. So it's great for me to just put
- 1:43:49use on and I didn't have to think about anything other than
- 1:43:52whiskey chat. But I will say the indie bottler
- 1:43:55Spotlight with Thompson Brothers was a real highlight as well.
- 1:43:58My question for you lads is it's probably more of Chuck's
- 1:44:00expertise. I'm going to Beijing, Japan for
- 1:44:03a whole month and I would like to get into at least one
- 1:44:06distillery tour. I'm eyeing up Kansuki or Yuchi
- 1:44:11Kanasuki. Yep, there you go.
- 1:44:12Or Yuchi. What would you what would be
- 1:44:15your recommendations? Well, I have no knowledge of
- 1:44:17China, but I do. We've got a knowledge of Japan,
- 1:44:19so I will. Give a quick answer on and
- 1:44:21thank. He's going to Beijing and Japan
- 1:44:22I know, but I have no knowledge of China.
- 1:44:25I've. Never been to China but I do.
- 1:44:26I've been to Japan a couple of times and I have been to a
- 1:44:28couple of distilleries in Japan. I would say I've not been to
- 1:44:32Yuichi Yuichi but I know it's very very accessible on public
- 1:44:36transport from Sapporo which is a big big city in the north.
- 1:44:38For Japan it's and they do regular regular tours.
- 1:44:42It should be very easy to book. I would say it requires a wee
- 1:44:46bit of it's not the easiest website in the world.
- 1:44:50I think the distillery tours open up about 3 months before
- 1:44:56you can visit. Really really make the effort to
- 1:44:58get to Fuji Kitimba. If you can search Fuji Kitimba
- 1:45:01distillery or and Karen possibly in Google.
- 1:45:05I will try and maybe share the link if you can get to that.
- 1:45:10So you can get a train from central Tokyo to Gotemba
- 1:45:14station, gets Fuji Gotemba distillery I think I'm almost
- 1:45:1999% sure. Do a shuttle bus if you're
- 1:45:24booked on a tour from Gotemba Station to Fuji Kitenba
- 1:45:29Distillery. They certainly we went on the
- 1:45:31way back. We didn't go on the way there.
- 1:45:32We went on the way there a different way.
- 1:45:35But I will try this has seen answer for you there but Fuji
- 1:45:38Kitenba. Really interesting distillery.
- 1:45:39Because they do malt they. Do they do they do malt, they do
- 1:45:43grain, Yeah. So then if anything, just do
- 1:45:45them and then Mammy brothers and it's.
- 1:45:47Really. Accessible from central Tokyo,
- 1:45:49which is. The main thing it's about an
- 1:45:50hour. An hour train from central Tokyo
- 1:45:53to Gotemba and, and, and as I said, about 10 or 15 minute
- 1:45:57shuttle bus from Kitamba station to the distillery.
- 1:46:01I'll try and share as much details I can.
- 1:46:02And I'm not well wrapped in. And it's free.
- 1:46:05The tour is free. Yeah.
- 1:46:07I mean, he's been training in Japan for a month.
- 1:46:08I reckon he's all right to pay for the tour.
- 1:46:11All right, but this is what I'm saying.
- 1:46:13It's free and you get Highlander in.
- 1:46:15In Tokyo, the Highlander. You should do Highlander into
- 1:46:17any other. Japanese stuff that you just
- 1:46:18should. Do Japanese whiskey stuff.
- 1:46:20It should. Do while he's there.
- 1:46:21Yeah, with the distillery visit, I I didn't get a chance to go to
- 1:46:24Highlander. And I would.
- 1:46:26Recommend it highly. And must be for Chuck spoken
- 1:46:28highly of it. If you can get to the Highlander
- 1:46:31Inn, there's Highlander in Tokyo.
- 1:46:33There's also Highlander Inn and Chichibu actually in February,
- 1:46:37and the Chichibu Chichibu Whiskey.
- 1:46:39Festival as well, which is. Something you have to look up.
- 1:46:45Chuck would be the man to talk about Kanasuke.
- 1:46:47I've not been to Kanasuke strangely shamed, but what I
- 1:46:50would say is Yoichi Yoichi. Yoichi, I've been.
- 1:46:54Desperately looking for it to back it up.
- 1:46:56What Yoichi? On the 22nd of April 2024 we had
- 1:47:01Sharon and Jodi bucking on and Yoichi was Yoichi 15 was one of
- 1:47:05shan't what 3 drafts had to make a There you go, She had to make.
- 1:47:08Listen guys, we've done it. We've made it to episode. 100
- 1:47:11Well done lads, absolutely fantastic.
- 1:47:13Hope you enjoyed your jams today.
- 1:47:14What was the what? Was the winner of my 3 the award
- 1:47:17head Bill Moore and Buna. I'm going to go for the ball,
- 1:47:22Moore. Yeah, ball war for me.
- 1:47:24Still pretend to like Pete. Yeah, I really like the Bunner.
- 1:47:28Bunner. I'm going to say the Bunner was.
- 1:47:30I mean, I like to be enjoying the ball more.
- 1:47:31I like the ball. More I like the the the the the
- 1:47:36ward head was fantastic. But yeah, yeah, the but the
- 1:47:40Alder market was delicious. Fantastic.
- 1:47:43Look guys, 100 episodes. In the bag.
- 1:47:45Well done. Graham, well done, Well done.
- 1:47:48Ross, well done. Angus, it's been, absolutely.
- 1:47:49Fantastic. And you know what?
- 1:47:51I wouldn't want to do it 100 episodes with anybody else.
- 1:47:55You guys absolutely fantastic. You so much for watching and.
- 1:47:57Listening we couldn't have done. It we could not have done it.
- 1:48:00We had eight. Downloads from the first
- 1:48:03episode, right And I'll tell you what you know what if we were
- 1:48:07still on 8 episodes 108 downloads, 100 episodes.
- 1:48:11And I've got a question on the content that we're creating but
- 1:48:17yeah, but you know what, Graham? That's not all over the world.
- 1:48:19We do it. We.
- 1:48:20Do it, you know? We wouldn't be doing this.
- 1:48:23If it wasn't for the fun of it as well, absolutely, we have a
- 1:48:25great time, but we we have a fantastic time and I love.
- 1:48:28Nothing more than chatting. You know what?
- 1:48:30You. Sitting here and chatting about
- 1:48:31drums, Where you guys, you lads are childhood friends.
- 1:48:33You've known each other since. Actually, pretty much since I
- 1:48:35was. Born and have I Well, after you
- 1:48:38were born, actually, we met. We would have met 2000.
- 1:48:40Would have met OK I. Was born and fair enough, but
- 1:48:42what I've enjoyed is. I've enjoyed drinking whiskey
- 1:48:46with you boys most weeks for the last two years.
- 1:48:48That's huge because because you can drink whiskey with anybody,
- 1:48:52but having conversation, it's just been brilliant.
- 1:48:56What would you like more of? Tell us, do you want more step
- 1:49:00at step at score? It's a.
- 1:49:01Genius idea. Original idea.
- 1:49:04We. Need to do more of them.
- 1:49:05For example, do you want lanyard?
- 1:49:07Do you want lanyard sit here? Do you want?
- 1:49:10Lanyard sit. Here right now.
- 1:49:11Microphone in the hand. Drama one, I've got a line.
- 1:49:14Yard with a drum waiting on waiting on me as well.
- 1:49:16Is there a distillery you want us to deep dive next year?
- 1:49:19Is there somebody? 'S like I can't believe you've
- 1:49:21not had this person on tell us we will harass them until they
- 1:49:25come on the engagement that we get every single week whether
- 1:49:28it's. Emails coming in, it's people
- 1:49:31messaging on the on the group. And also I checked we've done
- 1:49:35all right on Apple Podcasts. We're sitting at how many votes
- 1:49:40have we had? Apple podcast again.
- 1:49:45Lots and lots of. Pre work here, but on Apple
- 1:49:48podcast I think we're sitting at now where is it?
- 1:49:55I think we're at 4 point. 9 4.9. Rating, which is how many people
- 1:50:02have voted for, is this. What you're trying to find out,
- 1:50:03that's what I'm trying. Well, I was I was going to from.
- 1:50:08Harrington I never. Realized it.
- 1:50:10Was. 4.9 is higher than my Uber rating so they well.
- 1:50:13Exactly. There we go.
- 1:50:14Right? That's all we can say, 04.87.
- 1:50:20Is mine, but that's episode #1. Episode #1 Graham.
- 1:50:24Angus, Graham, Ross and. Angus are in the backroom of the
- 1:50:26Athletic Arm Diggers pub in Edinburgh, chatting about how
- 1:50:29they know each other and their journey through the wonderful
- 1:50:32world of whiskey. Welcome to the whiskey.
- 1:50:37Stories Podcast. This is the bloops.
- 1:50:41Enjoy a drum. My parents would I have.
- 1:50:46One second. I have one second, my parents
- 1:50:49have the other second, driven up from Sterlington's.
- 1:50:57Having a conversation with this, it's a.
- 1:50:58Couple of hours sharing a few trams.
- 1:51:01Couple of hours share a few trams can go a long way.
- 1:51:05Come along, the whiskey stories. Podcast with me.
- 1:51:08There we go. That was a couple of pals.
- 1:51:10Having a few drams can go a long way. 100 episodes.
- 1:51:12There we are. Ross, listen guys, all the very
- 1:51:14best. Thank you.
- 1:51:15So. Much for all the stories that
- 1:51:17we've created ourselves. But thank you also to everybody
- 1:51:20who's watched, listened and engaged.
- 1:51:22All the very best. Here's to the next 100 episodes.
- 1:51:24Sandra, cheers.