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Patriots Unfiltered 2/15: Coaching Staff Additions, Projecting Offensive Scheme, Recent Mock Drafts · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: at Chilette Stadium, and well.
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  Speaker 7: Off season now, Fred, it's off season. You can't eve
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  Speaker 7: talk about the super Bowl anymore. We're just we're into
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  Speaker 7: the void of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Deuce, it's Alex. Welcome back.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know if you were still with us.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I ran out of PTO, so what am I
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  Speaker 8: going to do?
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  Speaker 4: She took them.
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  Speaker 1: Evan's here, falls here, Matt's in the booth and come
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  Speaker 1: and seeing a ghost. So we're talking Patriots. Not with
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  Speaker 1: that's hand, thank you. Uh, We're talking Patriots for the
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  Speaker 1: next two hours and whatever else comes to mind. But
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  Speaker 1: I was just walking around today and they're redoing the
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  Speaker 1: whole coaching area, like all construction. It's like major major
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  Speaker 1: renovation down there.
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  Speaker 6: You're walking around the coaching area.
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  Speaker 4: Where are Yeah, you get hands on.
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  Speaker 9: The culture, no playbooks, building silos.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of it. There are doing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of while the players are out
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  Speaker 1: and to get ready for the twenty twenty four season.
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  Speaker 9: Really worried about the important things.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, to watch out. Evan's on edge right now. Evan's
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  Speaker 4: on edge generally.
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  Speaker 6: What's wrong with him?
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  Speaker 4: I'll let him speak for himself.
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  Speaker 1: But Jersey Mike's closed again.
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  Speaker 9: On the snow day I did, and I was really
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  Speaker 9: upset about that. It's like there's like two snow day
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  Speaker 9: that wasn't I was like, there's two inches of snow.
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  Speaker 9: Jersey Mike's come back.
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  Speaker 7: To the poor people that like didn't get to work
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  Speaker 7: that day. Like there are people that are like, no,
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  Speaker 7: don't come in, like you know, people need money, paychecks,
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  Speaker 7: and like.
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  Speaker 9: I was trying to base my order on the app
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  Speaker 9: and it said not taking any orders and I was like, why.
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  Speaker 4: Well, at least that's a courtesy. They didn't take the
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  Speaker 4: order and then just burn it.
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  Speaker 9: That's that's true. That happened to of course pizza time
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  Speaker 9: was open there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that happened to Bob.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that's what he told me.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, put him in order and yeah they received.
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  Speaker 4: The just went into these They took his money.
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  Speaker 6: You know how to take You just don't know how
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  Speaker 6: to keep the rest of nice sandwich.
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  Speaker 4: No sandwich was produced.
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  Speaker 1: So what else is bothering you?
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  Speaker 9: Well, you know we did this on we did this
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  Speaker 9: on Catch.
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  Speaker 4: I mean what else?
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  Speaker 9: I mean always you can.
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  Speaker 7: Tell it's all simmering under the surface right now with him,
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  Speaker 7: We just he's it in.
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  Speaker 9: We did this on Catch twenty two. So I don't
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  Speaker 9: you know, I don't want to completely go on the
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  Speaker 9: rant again, but I've been really bothered up until yesterday
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  Speaker 9: when we heard from Alex van Pelt. Finally, finally somebody
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  Speaker 9: actually talking about football around here and not talking about
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  Speaker 9: silos and bridges and you know, culture and this guy like,
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  Speaker 9: can somebody tell me how the twenty twenty four Patriots
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  Speaker 9: are going to win a football game?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 9: Can somebody tell me what's the what's you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's February, yes, and they can I do it in
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  Speaker 1: the staff together and I.
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  Speaker 9: Do know that every other head coach that had an
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  Speaker 9: introductory press conference gets up there and tells you what
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  Speaker 9: his vision for how he wants to be as a
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  Speaker 9: football team. And I'm one of these people that is
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  Speaker 9: pretty anti Dan Campbell, to be honest with you, But
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  Speaker 9: at least a couple of years ago when the Lions
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  Speaker 9: hired him, as much as we all made fun of
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  Speaker 9: the kneecaps, right, he had a real vision of this
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  Speaker 9: is how we are going to play football in Detroit.
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  Speaker 9: What is girod Mayo's vision for this football team? What
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  Speaker 9: is the what is the whole organization's vision? Because to
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  Speaker 9: be honest with you, the two things that I keep
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  Speaker 9: hearing about are how everybody's gonna be nicer to each other,
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  Speaker 9: all right? And the second thing I keep hearing is
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  Speaker 9: us just killing Bill Belichick on the way out.
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  Speaker 4: So that great. You know what I enjoyed.
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  Speaker 9: I enjoyed winning, So how are we gonna enjoy How
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  Speaker 9: are we going to get back to winning and worry
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  Speaker 9: less about silos and bridges and you know, like singing
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  Speaker 9: Kumbaya together?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, don't forget collaborative.
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  Speaker 9: Hello, thank you collaborative.
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  Speaker 1: So in the case of Dan Campbell, yes, right, even
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  Speaker 1: though it was only temporary, he had been a head
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  Speaker 1: coach before, right temporarily. And most of these guys that
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about have had some experience running a team before.
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  Speaker 1: This guy didn't. I think he's learning on the job.
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  Speaker 1: And when he talks about building bridges, he's got some
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  Speaker 1: work to do, because there was a in the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as recently as two months.
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  Speaker 9: Ago, just at least Alex van Pelt yesterday got up
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  Speaker 9: there and said, I believe in running the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I believe. So what's the difference between Alex van
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  Speaker 1: Pelt and Gerd Mayo.
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  Speaker 9: Experience is that where you're getting exactly he's done it before,
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  Speaker 9: so he has some frame of reference to draw it.
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  Speaker 9: Worries me. It sounds very corporate to me. I hear you,
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  Speaker 9: I hear you, And we'll see we're football.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. If if we're still talking about this in May,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. You know, I'm with you. And hopefully
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  Speaker 1: maybe we'll get a sense of in the draft like
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  Speaker 1: or a free agency even sooner than that, what what
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  Speaker 1: kind of team they do want to be by the
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  Speaker 1: type of players that they're targeting, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: The vision worries me.
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  Speaker 4: This is all.
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  Speaker 6: This is all sork me a lot longer to get
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  Speaker 6: you with this spot.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, this is all a work in progress.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, are you you understand what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: I do understand what you're saying. I'm not as bothered
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  Speaker 6: by it. Yeah, I understand, Charlie.
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  Speaker 9: From what we've heard from Gerard Mayo this whole time,
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  Speaker 9: and then just yesterday, just hearing that one minute of
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  Speaker 9: Alex van Pel like, oh good, I'm glad somebody is
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  Speaker 9: talking about football, Like I'm glad somebody is worried.
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  Speaker 6: About run centric. But at least it was a goal.
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  Speaker 9: And like of all the things that we can say
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  Speaker 9: about Bill, in the end, I didn't agree with any
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  Speaker 9: of the way that he was building the team, but
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  Speaker 9: he did have a vision for how they wanted to
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  Speaker 9: build the team.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, and again he had also experienced I think Girard
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  Speaker 1: is bringing in people and that he's going to lean
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  Speaker 1: on for that vision, you know, in terms of offense, defense, Uh, right, right,
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  Speaker 1: right now, Gerard is you know, he's occupied with building
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  Speaker 1: his his coaching staff, which I think is pretty much
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  Speaker 1: done now. And then you know, how am I going
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  Speaker 1: to structure this team from a culture standpoint? You know
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  Speaker 1: what am I going to put in place for everybody
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  Speaker 1: that is going to match my vision? And that's what
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  Speaker 1: he's working on right now. But he's right now. Alex
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  Speaker 1: van Pelt is in charge of the offense, DeMarcus Covington's
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  Speaker 1: in charge of the defense, And as Drodd says, he's
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  Speaker 1: hired people who he expects to tell me what to do.
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  Speaker 1: These guys have they're gonna like.
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  Speaker 9: That Fred, you know, well he's the head coach of
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  Speaker 9: the team. Like, it's your vision, it's your team.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 9: I know, but I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: Rod Mayos not building the offense. Do we want him
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  Speaker 1: to know? We don't.
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  Speaker 9: I just I was already at this point to an
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  Speaker 9: extent because of the whole offensive coordinator search. And my
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  Speaker 9: biggest thing with this hire was that I wanted a
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  Speaker 9: coach that already knew who his offensive coordinator was going
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  Speaker 9: to be. You know, get you look at in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 9: right Raheem Moris gets the job, Zach Robinson's the offensive
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  Speaker 9: coordinator within twenty four hours. You know, you look at
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  Speaker 9: in Washington, Cliff Kingsbury backed out on the Raiders to
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  Speaker 9: go with Dan Quinn to Washington. I am sure that
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  Speaker 9: that was communicated beforehand. That wasn't something that just came
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  Speaker 9: him out of thin air.
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  Speaker 6: Sure, right, you know those are these who was It
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  Speaker 6: all gets back to your experience.
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  Speaker 1: It does. It all gets back to the experience all
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  Speaker 1: these guys.
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  Speaker 6: But that doesn't mean it's good.
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  Speaker 1: No, this is the This is the risk, and we
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  Speaker 1: know it's a risk.
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  Speaker 6: You know, if Robert I understand Robert Kraft.
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  Speaker 1: Would admit it's risk when you hire a guy who's
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  Speaker 1: never done it before.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's not like I've seen plenty of guys
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  Speaker 6: who've never done it before that come in and explain
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  Speaker 6: how they want to do it. I think Evan's a
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  Speaker 6: little put off by the fact that we haven't really
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  Speaker 6: heard any of that. I hope that he knows how
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  Speaker 6: he wants to do it and just hasn't communicated it
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  Speaker 6: to the public, which is fine. If that's the case,
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  Speaker 6: I think Evan might have some concerns that he's not
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  Speaker 6: exactly sure how he.
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  Speaker 1: Wants to do I'll bet you he isn't good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well that's that's reality.
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  Speaker 7: I just feel like anything he would say, it's just
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  Speaker 7: going to be coach speaking.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna be cliche. I would rather have coach speaking.
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  Speaker 4: You just want the service of like, we're gonna go
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  Speaker 4: out there, we're gonna score more points than the other team,
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  Speaker 4: and we're gonna do it because we're gonna be tough
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  Speaker 4: and we're gonna play smartph.
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  Speaker 6: You don't have to do the Joe Judge thing. And
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  Speaker 6: we're gonna have an organization that you know is going
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  Speaker 6: to represent the area.
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  Speaker 1: But is there.
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  Speaker 9: Anything that he could say in that announcement.
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  Speaker 4: That would make you say, oh, that's a little different,
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  Speaker 4: Like it's going to Devil's advocate.
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  Speaker 10: Like if his staff isn't completely assembled yet, how does
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  Speaker 10: he necessarily know what the vision is going to be?
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  Speaker 1: Sure, he doesn't even know who his quarterback is going
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  Speaker 1: to be.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's evans concern. Yeah, but he I mean
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  Speaker 6: the fact that he doesn't know those things.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't know those things. He doesn't know who his
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  Speaker 1: quarterback is going to be. He doesn't, you know, Like
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  Speaker 1: there's so much unknown right now, you know, beyond the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he has no experience being a head coach
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  Speaker 1: before or even a coordinator. You know, so this is
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  Speaker 1: what we've got, folks, you know, and let's hope it
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  Speaker 1: works out.
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  Speaker 9: There's a lot of things that I like about job mate.
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  Speaker 9: I'm not trying to kill him, I'm not, but I
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  Speaker 9: was concern Number one happened when they interviewed fifty people
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  Speaker 9: for offensive coordinator, and I was just like, oh, know,
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  Speaker 9: like they they don't have a coordinator, they don't know
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  Speaker 9: who it is. If it I would have had concerns
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  Speaker 9: about Nick Kyley. But if he had just gone and
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  Speaker 9: hired Nick Kyley, I would have said, yeah, he probably
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  Speaker 9: had connected with Nick Kyley here. And when he said,
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  Speaker 9: what is when I take over, I want you to
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  Speaker 9: be my coordinator? Great, that's what happened with Rahe Morris
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  Speaker 9: in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: But that's about it. Realistically, a guy who's never been
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  Speaker 1: a head coach hiring a guy who's never been an
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, what do you what are we doing?
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  Speaker 9: I would have had concerns about that for those exact reasons,
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  Speaker 9: but at least I would have been like, that's conviction,
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  Speaker 9: Like you knew who your guy was going to be.
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  Speaker 9: And right now I think Alex van Pel I like
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  Speaker 9: a lot of things that he said in that clip.
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  Speaker 9: I like a lot of the things that he represents
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  Speaker 9: from Cleveland, but I think that that was where was it?
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  Speaker 9: Where was Alex Van Pelt on the list?
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  Speaker 1: I will quote Ernie Adams, if you're not inside these walls,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, we can talk about how do you know?
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  Speaker 1: How do you know that? Like, how do you know
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  Speaker 1: that scribes know? They didn't they didn't go through the
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  Speaker 1: interview process with all these people to get the information.
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  Speaker 1: But Elliott Wolf knew who the offensive sports.
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  Speaker 9: So here's the thing that I will say, and I
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  Speaker 9: Elliott Wolf is the one beacon of hope I have
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  Speaker 9: in this entire organization right now, because that's a man
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  Speaker 9: that I think actually knows what he's doing. I think
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  Speaker 9: he's done it before. I think he's got connections in
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  Speaker 9: the league. I think he knows people. I think people
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  Speaker 9: think he's ready for this job. And he has experienced
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  Speaker 9: in the league. This is not somebody that's been coaching
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  Speaker 9: for a couple of years and then took over the job.
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  Speaker 9: He's been he's been doing it for twenty years. So
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  Speaker 9: Elliott Wolf save us.
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  Speaker 1: And it's clear that his stamp is on a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these moves.
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  Speaker 9: Right That's that's the one beacon of hope front office ones.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're being a little dramatic, and that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: This is radio.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't have the show opening like that to that.
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  Speaker 1: He was dramatic.
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  Speaker 4: He was steaming a little bit, and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: this is a great way just to get into it.
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  Speaker 8: I haven't seen it.
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  Speaker 9: It's been brewing.
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  Speaker 6: Last time I saw you this matter is when Alex
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  Speaker 6: said that you can't be walking a great it's.
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  Speaker 1: Thee Alex Barth's school of fabricated drama.
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  Speaker 9: I know school. This is not a fabricated This has
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  Speaker 9: been brewing, and I've been telling myself to just give
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  Speaker 9: it a chance and let's see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you expected.
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  Speaker 9: I expected a plan. I don't think they have a plan.
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  Speaker 8: A plan since.
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  Speaker 1: I I this is what I kind of expected.
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  Speaker 6: You thought that they were going to walk away from
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  Speaker 6: Bill Belichick and not know what the next step was,
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  Speaker 6: because that's kind of what it seems to me.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, it's I do. I think I thought.
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  Speaker 6: They had an idea of what they wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Again, you know how many how many other teams when
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  Speaker 1: they're changing coaches do it from the best of all time?
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  Speaker 1: How many? How many teams when they change their quarterback
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  Speaker 1: do it from the best of all But now you're
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  Speaker 1: a monumental size shifts in this organization.
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  Speaker 6: But now you're changing, you're changing the question. Now you're saying, like,
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  Speaker 6: who expected them to succeed?
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  Speaker 1: I did say that, No.
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  Speaker 6: But like, what's the difference who you're replacing. You know,
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  Speaker 6: you're replacing somebody, is there a plan to replace them?
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  Speaker 6: That doesn't matter if you I mean, to your point,
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  Speaker 6: you're replacing the best ever coach. Yeah, so it's probably
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  Speaker 6: not going to be as good, absolutely understood. That's not
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  Speaker 6: my points. But you shouldn't know what you want to do.
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  Speaker 6: If you're going to replace the guy, you should know
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  Speaker 6: what you want to do.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that.
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  Speaker 6: I know they wanted Gerard Mayo to replace them, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: but and then.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know if they wanted Gerard Mayo to
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  Speaker 1: replace them this year. I think I think the whole
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  Speaker 1: plan got accelerated a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, But my point being it's it's not a but
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't matter who you're replacing. The caliber of coach
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  Speaker 6: you're replacing matters in terms of your performance.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely it does.
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  Speaker 6: But not in terms of what you're going to do now.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you're underestimating the effect of moving on
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: from Belichick had not just with the crafts, but players,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: assistant coaches, and you know when when you're talking about
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: building bridges and all this, you can't you know, like
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: maybe there was an undercurrent and that caused a lot
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: of riffs in the locker room. But you can't be
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: like planning on offensive coordinators before Bill leaves and not
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: have you know, perhaps a revolt. You know, you had
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: to be very deft about this, and they you.
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: Don't think could have been thinking in December, what do
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: you want to do?
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: You can't be making calls around the league.
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: You don't make calls. You think about what you want
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: to do.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, But he doesn't know that's my point.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't know what you don't point what's he drawing?
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: And I agree, But like I don't see why this
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: is like such a shock.
• 15:46
  Speaker 9: Okay, But the guy in Seattle, Mike McDonald, like what
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: was his experience?
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: Suddenly we just hired the only first time coach in the.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Such a Again, again, you're you're not factoring in who
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: we're moving on from him.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: I don't really understand why that matters and what.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: The situation was. Well, you don't understand, but I'm trying
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: to explain it to you. This is a unique situation
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: that a lot of teams don't have to go through
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: when they make the decision to move on from their coach.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: This is different. This is a guy who's been here
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: for over twenty years, best of all time. It's not okay,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: new coach time.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: I don't really understand.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: And you're you're moving on with a guy who's never
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: done it before.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: And Seattle from Pete Carroll with a guy who's never done.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: It, And so there's gonna be learning. There's gonna be
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: learning pains, there's gonna be uh you know, a learning
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a huge learning curve. There's gonna be mistakes made. And
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: what the best he can do is hire good people
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: who he can lean on that can help him, you know,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: with this transition.
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: I just look at it. I'm gonna go to Seattle
• 16:55
  Speaker 9: and I'm gonna tell you Mike McDonald's thirty six years old.
• 16:58
  Speaker 9: He's the youngest head coach in the NFL. Ryan Grubb
• 17:01
  Speaker 9: is his offensive coordinator who he just stole from Alabama
• 17:04
  Speaker 9: and Kaylen de Boor, who he was with in Washington
• 17:07
  Speaker 9: before that. So him, Kaylen de Boor, and Ryan Grubb
• 17:10
  Speaker 9: are like this, They've they've gone everywhere together and somehow,
• 17:14
  Speaker 9: Okay McDonald, who's.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: That person for Gerard that he's done everything with together?
• 17:18
  Speaker 9: No, he just left that guy. He just left him
• 17:21
  Speaker 9: for Mike McDonald.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Say what you're saying.
• 17:23
  Speaker 9: And so somehow along the way Mike McDonald and Ryan
• 17:27
  Speaker 9: Grubb linked up somewhere and they had a plan that
• 17:30
  Speaker 9: if McDonald got a job, because Grub was supposed to
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: go to Alabama.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I know, but let's look at McDonald's path, and I'll
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: bet you that he's had more touch points with more
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: people than Gerrod Mayo. Rod Mayo started here and doesn't
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: have any experience anywhere else college, other teams. This is
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: all he knows.
• 17:49
  Speaker 9: But what's the point.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Why that's the fact, that's for real?
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: Why is it a fact? Is what I'm asking you.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Because he was hired here out of empower and never
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: had any other coach spirits. That's why been here for
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: eight years, five years, and this is the only place
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: he's been. Okay, that's reality, folks.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: I don't understand. I just don't understand what the caliber
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: of the guy he's succeeding has to do with anything
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: now in terms of evaluating his performance. Absolutely that matters.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: You're walking in you're like, you never want to be
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: the guy to replace the guy, the old cliche. I
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: get that he's going to get more latitude because you've
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: got to say, listen, he's replacing Bill Belichick.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Let's I think it couldn't make it tough.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: Let's let's let's let's not expect him to go and
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: win six Super Bowls.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: You you don't think the Bill people are waiting for
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: him to fail.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: I have no idea what. I don't even know what
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: we're talking about anymore.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I'll show you.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: I think we we were trying to figure out, like
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: why it's not going to be easy on him. I
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: think Evan's point was just why does it seem like
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: there's been so much indecision as to what direction they
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: want to try to go from a football perspective, and
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: it's devolved into well, he doesn't have any experience. I
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: don't really understand how those two are related. The guy
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: has thought about being a head coach, now, whether he
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: thought it was going to be next year or this year.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: He's thought about how he wants to coach. Why is
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: he not? I think to Evans's point, and again, I
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: think Evan's a little bit more you know, dramatic dramatic
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: about it than most of us. But I think Evan's
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: wondering why he doesn't seem to have a vision.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: He's told us, he's told us how he wants to
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: coach in the culture, and what he hasn't told us
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: that everyone is what kind of football? What's their philosophy,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: what's the type of team they're going to be. He's
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: gonna get that's a work in progress, that part of it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: And it's based on the coach.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: They shouldn't be a work in progress.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's based on the coaches that he's hired. It's going
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: to be based on the quarterback if they draft a quarterback.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of unknowns.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: Implementing whatever he wants to do should be a working progress,
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: not what he wants to do. You know, can he
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: succeed in doing it? This is where I get to
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: the Bill Belichick is relevant part. But she should have
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: an idea of what I mean.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: But just because he's not sharing it, with us, and
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: you know that he has exactly which is what I said,
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: That's what I said at the plot. But I mean,
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: I think it's just a valid point of what what's
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: sold John Alex van Pelt like, what what made him
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: the guy? Was it that you couldn't get anybody else?
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Like? You know, was he the last man standing?
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: I think I think the biggest thing and why people
• 20:26
  Speaker 10: are kind of impatient right now is because, I mean,
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: you don't know what you don't know. And then maybe
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: you thought it was going to be easy, You're going
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: to make all these hires, but maybe it was less
• 20:34
  Speaker 10: of a desirable job than we initially thought. And I
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: think assembling the coaching staff was probably harder than they.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Thought that could be. I agree, that's not jern my
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: host fault though, no, of course not.
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: These are the types of things that concern me more
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: than the fact that he that I think he sounds
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: very corporate when he speaks like that type of stuff
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: is not here nor there, Like that doesn't necessarily decide
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: whether or not he's going to be a good football
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: coach or not. I think the problem that I see
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: is that a lot of these other you know, when
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: you go into these interviews for head coaching job. They
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: one of the bigger questions that they ask is who
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: are going to be your coordinators? And you're supposed to
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: have like a short list of like these are the
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: two or three guys, either because you coached against them,
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: you coach with them, you know, whatever the case may be.
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: A lot of the time, it's well, we played this
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: team the last couple of years and they killed us offensively,
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: Like this guy really knows what he's doing, and so
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: they'll go out and get that guy. I just that
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: piece of it worries me a lot.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'll say something that might even worry you more.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Oh good, No, what if you're supposed to help.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: What if Mayo had a couple guys in mind, couldn't
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: get him? And then Elliott Wolfe says, let me take
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: care of it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: That that's kind of what Alex was saying about the
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: desirability of the job. That's what started this whole spire
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: over me. Yeah, is because I think that Zach Robinson
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: was their guy. I think they really wanted Zach Robinson.
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: I think they made a strong push to get Zach Robinson.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: And I think Nick Kayley was planned B.
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: It was Plan B and they gotten either.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: And I think that Zach Robinson was attached to Raheem
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: Morris probably when he started to get win that Atlanta
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: was really serious about Raheem Morris. He said, let me
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: take a step back and see what.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Were he I'm glad they didn't get Nick Kayley. Nothing
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: against him, but I want some experience. And I like
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the idea of bringing in Ben mcado to have even
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: more experience as an advisor, you know. I we need
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: people who have done it before.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: Because I liked the idea of the position that they
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: created for Macadoo. I just don't like that it's Macadoo like.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: I would have been much much happier if it were
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: like sometimes in Rainbow, Frank Reich or someone who had
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: a monoicum of success as a head coach, didn't like
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: spectacularly fail as a hiten.
• 22:52
  Speaker 11: No.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I know, but we're not asking Ben mackado to be the.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: Hill, but I'm talking about in that role, like someone
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: to lean on whatever. I didn't want Josh McDaniels back. Yeah,
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: and I love Josh yeah all that, yep, but failed twice.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: I didn't I didn't want him back.
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, this is just point
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: number one. You know, I'll save started.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I know it's February fifteenth, so I like again I did.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with Sam in North Carolina
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: says I've been feeling the same way as Evan, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I was a big male guy coming in. Mayo has
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: done nothing to make me feel better since day one.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: He felt like a corporate guy. I felt like he
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: was my boss talking to me about how things will
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: be different than the last boss. But everyone just wants
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: better football. Cut the corporate bs and give us a
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: football coach. So that's and then he's he's, uh, he
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: doesn't like Drake may doesn't from North Carolina, doesn't have
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the clutch fact is he from North Caro? North Carolina?
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: Shock?
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I mean it just doesn't that bother you that everyone
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: from North Carolina doesn't.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: Like not even know, because I have a million other
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: people that have told me how great he is.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: So from North Carolina?
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, my buddy Dan my Northeastern and he's a
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: huge Patriots guy.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Uh fream says Evans having a great hair day, Alex,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Not sorry, Alex, You're not having a great hair day.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: The donut the donut. Wow, the donut coming in hot?
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: All right, I got a haircut yesterday.
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: Well, I worked out this morning.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I might have to go there.
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm going to tell him who you are.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't like to give you the shame.
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: You don't have to like, you don't have to come
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: out and be like I'm Fred kursh like you just
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: kind of weave it into the confer little sniff.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: So what does that mean? You end up getting for
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: the bagel?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Do I get a discount?
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Where's this place?
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: It's right next to even if you have no hair
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: like me, because I need a little track, I'm getting that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: You'll be You'll be like.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Will was uh. Will was like throwing out the flow
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: calling it let us the other day the Super Bowl,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: and I was like, just go from the other side.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Play that's your kitchen, that's what they call it's actually
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: in my kitchen. I think it's pretty this is justin
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and Orlando. I think it's pretty clear that Mayo is
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: being set up to fail. Can we give the guy
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: any time at all? Before saying he doesn't know how
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he wants the team to play, what could he say
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: to alleviate it? Was concerns bite off kneecaps, do your job.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: We're being ridiculous, And I care much more about the
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: lack of clarity in the front office than the lack
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: of a status the play from the head coach.
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: There's no lack of clarity in the front office. Elliott
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: Wolf is the facto general manager of the Patriots.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: And there has been no football talk period. It's not
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: about like biting kneecaps. There's been nothing spoken in the
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: Times that we've heard from Mayo about football.
• 25:48
  Speaker 11: No.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: I think that's Evan's point. Now, again, it doesn't bother
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: me as much as it obviously bothers Evan, But that's
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: that's kind of a fact. I'd never really heard a
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: guy that intered three press conference not talk about his
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: football philosophy.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: And well, let me, I don't remember that. But at
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: his introductory press conference with the media, did anyone ask
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: that specific like what's your football philosophy? I don't remember.
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: I've been waiting for us to get him on the
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: show so I can.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Either No, I'm serious, So I hope we have him
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: sitting here and we can ask those questions. Why did
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you like Alex van Pell, Why did you like DeMarcus covering.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the thing, Fred.
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think we're really talking about just the
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: offense here. I mean, I think his defensive philosophy is
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: going to be the same kind of game plan.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: You know, we're going to just every week. There's a
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: thing like, I mean, I assume, but.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: Is it going to be aggressive? Because I can tell
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: you they had the same defense with different guys running
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: it that were wildly different.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Did Flora say we're going to be a lot more about.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: But they weren't in a position to do so. And
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Bill doesn't tell you anything, do you know what I mean?
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: I just think that's that's kind of what I'm talking about.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: It doesn't only Behoove.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: But I don't know what they're going to do defensively.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: I just think it's.
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: Such a big thing is that we're getting getting sold.
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: And I understand it's early and we're way over, but
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: we're getting sold this like different, this different vibe right,
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: like this different culture around the building. It's like a
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: shell game and and I I feel like it's such
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: a stark contrast. Like Bill was all football, right, like
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: it's all football, it's all business, even if you feel
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: like he didn't give you anything. Like it was still
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: we weren't talking about about silos, people up and developing, people.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Who whoa hold on for a second, like two months ago.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: We're talking about how Bill doesn't understand the modern athlete
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and things need to change and you need guys that
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: understand and tell them why and all that and that's it.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: And now he's says that's what he's gonna do and
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you don't like it.
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, can we
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: have a little bit of both?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: Like can we have just a little bit of the
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: other thing.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: I personally didn't like the fact that Bill continued to
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: want to try to win games in a way that
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: I don't think is doing.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: And that's another And I don't know if.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: Believe he agrees with that or not.
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Champions John, which frightens me.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: John says, Evan's all pissed because the new coach hasn't
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: let Evan know the direction he wants to take the team.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I don't remember Bill giving his vision of the team
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: at some press conference. Aside from Dan de Deucee, Campbell
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: has done that. This is an honest question.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: I can tell you you go back to Bill's introductory
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: press comments. He talked about tough football players and being
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: physical on both sides.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: He did they don't have a complete staff. They should
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: be focused on staff and players now. Then they can
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: make sure Evan approves later if they have a plan.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Why the hell would they tell us.
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: This is a show where we give our opinions, right,
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: I like they can give their opinion.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Correct, That's what I'm just the tone of this, like
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: just because they don't agree with you, Evan, you have
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to agree with me, But like I just leave John, John,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: good job, John. They are doing something. They are doing
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: something I haven't done in over twenty years. Give them
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: a chance. Not only is this new to the coach,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it's new to every inch of the organization.
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: I am giving it a good point I have. I
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: am giving it a chance. I have concerns. Is that
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: not allowed?
• 29:12
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: Okay, email her.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Well can.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Account to you.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Is that I feel free to call back in John,
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: good job.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I'll keep them coming.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: James Pettig, grew the most interesting Patriots fan of all times, says,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I agree with Evan, this has to be the worst
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: off season of coach Mayo's career.
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: See that was funny.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: If you knew jeans, it's even funnier.
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: Kevin says, I really, I didn't want to go here
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: on it, so sorry you didn't want to go I
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: led with it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I know, I know. I saw him like I saw
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: the steam still coming out of it. I thought two
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: hours of Catch twenty two we would we.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: Would have worked for Yeah, but they went down to
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: the wires.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Kevin and Virginia says, I agree with Fred, it is
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: what it is. The process of moving on from Bill
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: has been sloppy. But why could it be that the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Crafts had to move on from Belichick because Bill tanked
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: team so badly on the offensive side of the ball
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: that they felt they had to move on to Mayol
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: before they really wanted to. Fredd is right. All we
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: can do now is see how it plays out and
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: judge the results good or bad after they happen.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: That that is true.
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: All we can do is but but but for this
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: portion of the off season, this is where we complain.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: We can complain now, absolutely, that's a theory from my
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: shows that I don't necessarily agree with. What's that the
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: whole waving on faster than they had that than they
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: thought not. You know, Felder is a big proponent of
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: this is a year. I'm not sure of that. Yeah,
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure of that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Louis says, uh, long time listener, first time emailing.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I'm listening to the show today, and I'm confused about
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: how the show started. Did something change? Why are we
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: talking about what Mayo said two months ago? Seems the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Patriots have a plan or a style of offense they
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: want to play. They are hiring coaches that fit that
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: mold or no, we don't see. We don't know that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I will say, we don't know that. What else would
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: we you want him to do at this point? And also,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: is it's not fair to compare his situations because we
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: all know the Patriot's roster is terrible. So getting a
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: big time off I don't know what that means, big
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: time offensive coordinator to come here is much harder than
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: in Washington or Seattle.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because Washington, Washington's loaded.
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: Well, they just they're loaded.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I mean they got the first overall pick.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: And Jared and Vermont says, according to Dwight Eisenhower, plans
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: are useless, but planning is essential.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: But everybody has a plan until you get punched in
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: the mouth.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: M Tyson.
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  Speaker 1: Good start to the show. Eight five five past five
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  Speaker 1: hundred is the eight Stiken Hotline web radio at pictures
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  Speaker 1: dot com.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Welcome back, Alex, welcome back. What's going on in the studio?
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: You know it's so funny.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: I was literally texting my hair dresser.
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: I was texting my hairdresser before this too, like, hey,
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: any availability for Saturday.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: Desperately need to come see you guys. Didn't think anyone
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: else had noticed, but I didn't.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: People, but you notice she put her hair back.
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I did because I'm self conscious so.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: My hair.
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: I haven't washed my hair today. I worked out this morning.
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: I'm so sorry. I apologize. I'll be better. I'm gonna
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: go to Janigo Salon this weekend and we'll be good
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: to go.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, did you like the Super Bowl? Did you watch?
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: I did watch. I was happy to see it was
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: actually like a competitive game down to the end, entertaining.
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: I was glad I had my prediction correctly.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Oh you did? Yeah?
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, halftime was pretty solid.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean pretty solid.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah it was.
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: It was good, not great? Said where you guys talked
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: about it?
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: It started slow yes, yes, but I think if he
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: started with the slow jams, but not only that, but
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: he it was like a two second snippet of the
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: slow jams, So it just took a while for the
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: energy to ramp up.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: But then he brought out like ludacrous.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: They brought the roller skates.
• 33:00
  Speaker 13: Chris Little John and Alicia Keys came out and okay, yeah,
• 33:06
  Speaker 13: oh I wait. I saw TikTok about the girl that
• 33:08
  Speaker 13: fell and apparently, like you just when you signed up
• 33:12
  Speaker 13: to do acting jobs, you just like say your way
• 33:15
  Speaker 13: over qualified.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: And that's the kind of mister Hollywood explained the whole.
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: On the same side of TikTok.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: So you're up on the Is it true that Tayla
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Swift had Kanye West kicked out?
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: I think Kanye himself said that was not true yesterday.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I know, I believe everything he said. I know, well,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: but why would he say that if it was because
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: he's Kanye West. I think he wasn't in a suite though,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: but he makes fun of her all the time. Yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I think it was.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: I think it was a little bit of maybe like
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: a fabrication or hyper believe that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: You know, the game of telephone. I think Brandon Marshall
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: probably jump the gun.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Off, Okay, I don't know, Okay, and the commercials any anything.
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: Stand guys talked about the Duncan one.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it.
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: I like because Beyonce fan. But other than that, I
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: don't know. I'm just a hater. Like the writing is
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: just bad.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's just's leaning too much on star power.
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, not a creative nothing really move the needle for me.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yea.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Nobody reflected though, those guys jumped right into it. That's
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: what version. That was a good review.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: It was pretty good that like it was like four
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: four and a half minutes, Like there.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I love about it, Paul, we talked about sport. It's
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: that it's it's like an extraction of that great moment
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: from Boogie Nights where they're trying to record the record
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: and they're all coked out the magic that is on
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: that record, you know, just the guys who are so
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: in their own headspace about what their their music and
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: their art. Like I just I think you were going
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: to go with the diving competition.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Oh let me show you what you did it wrong?
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: One of my that's one of my favorite scenes though,
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: is when they're all trying to convince to get their
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: masters back.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Boogie knights all right.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Eight five five eight five five pasts five hundred is
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the ag sticking outline web radio at pages dot com.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: And he knew hiring.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: We never talked about don't hide exactly coming back, which
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: I thought was we didn't talk about that. We to
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: talk about it. Yeah, but I like the guy too.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: They brought over from the Ravens. That's Drew Wilkins. That's
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: kind of an interesting one is their outside linebackers guy.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, didn't they bring a running backs
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: coach in there for the Jets?
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he was pretty like a surprise firing party
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: in the ways with the Jets. Obviously, Breecee Hall has
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: been great for them, and uh, they they went in
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: a different directions. Been in that Shanahan offense.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: He's a good like flat form dark beard Tyler Embry. Yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: he's got a good look.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: So are we just waiting on wide receiver tight ends?
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: I mean, they did hire Taekwon Underwood, but it was
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: reported as an assistant wide receiver coach, right, so they
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: have an assistant wide receiver coach, but they don't have
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: a wide receiver coach.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I'll bet you no. I'm not saying they're going to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: run it back, but I'll bet you for craft if
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the if Rod wants to move on from Troy, it's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: a tough one.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Well it says that, that says there's a role for him,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: but they don't necessarily know that. It seems like the
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: move to me is is you know, he gets scrambled
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: over to.
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: Coach slash Yeah, returns okay, But you gotta think he
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: you know, Alex Pelts canna want somebody that can teach
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: his offense the way he wants and is Troy Brown
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: going to be that guy?
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I that's it seems like a little bit of a stretch. Yeah,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: but how do he convince High Tower?
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: I just High Tower seemed like a guy, remember like
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: he did, like did he retire? We didn't even know.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: He just kind of stopped like showing up, like you know,
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: there was no like real announcement.
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: I think until it was last year at the same
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: time as Devin.
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: And I thought he was done and then you know
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: it just it seems like he was enjoying living life,
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: getting out of football, you know, and of course the
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: famous thing Girod said last year like, oh, when I
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: get my own ship, I'm gonna try.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: To bring him in.
• 36:47
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: But I guess somebody told me that high Tower's wife,
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: I get he gave him like the blessing, which is
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: always the big thing.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Of that was you know, it was you, So you know,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: just to go from hanging out with your wife and
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: you know, just post NFL.
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: Conchs a healthy and I felt vacation.
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: I got the vibe that the wife was kind of like,
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: what are you gonna do?
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: You're annoying.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: But if you're gonna do, like, there's gonna be a
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: lot of hours put in here.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Like you know, your typical job might be like five o'clock,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: everybody out quit in time.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: That's how we rolled.
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm fully anticipating. Culture well, he said maybe six.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: I did think it was funny with a lot of
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: these guys are young, sort of up and coming people
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: that not many of us were very familiar with, and
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: it was like, you know, they can't get anybody to come.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Like Alex said, you know, maybe these jobs aren't as attractive.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: And then like Dante high Tower, who's never coached a
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: day in his life, signs on and it's like, whoo,
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: you know we got and believe me, I love Dante
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: High Tower. But like, I'm not necessarily dismissing all these
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: other guys because they don't have any experience, you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: take them on a case by case basis and see
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: who seems like they know what they're doing. But didn't
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: you find that interesting like they did? The people, all,
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: all the reporters all were like going.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Gaga, Yeah, analytical coach.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: You know, it's great, you know you have that connection
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: to the past.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: But he's never done it, and you know, he's got
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: a veteran group.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just going by the way everybody always
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: they always talked about him, and that the way that
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: people talked about Mayo. Mayo, Yeah, like he was like
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: a coach on the field, and Bubble definitely using that
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: as you know the reason why I think.
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: I think by Mayo coming out and saying, if I
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: ever run my own ship, I'm going to get High
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: Tower to coach linebackers last year, I mean, that's a
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: pretty big stamp of approval to be like, this guy
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: is a good board at.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: The time, he's completely out of the game too.
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think High Tower was I talked to him
• 38:47
  Speaker 9: for that piece that I did with all the linebackers
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: about Mayo, and I asked him at the end and
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: he said it was pretty clear that he could be swayed.
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: Like if you if Mayo made a really good recruiting pitch.
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: I was like this, this could actually have.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: You're gonna come in, You're gonna coach guys. You'll be here,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: you'll be working like it's.
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: It's Juwan Bentley, it's probably Java, like it's guys Acmillan,
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: Like how much coaching does Juwan Bentley really need in
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: the system at this point? You know it's gonna be Oh,
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: I saw this little thing. I saw that little thing.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Right, and he's just insideline backers.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: That's like the Wilkins and the Ravens will be the
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: outside linebackers.
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: So yeah, I like the defensive staff. There you go,
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: it's something possible.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: I think Scott Peters has some challenging coach fight Club
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: now with High Tower, though I'd probably go High Town.
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: I like the Scott Peters higher too, Like I watched
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: some of his clinics and things like that, and that's
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: like that's what you want your offensive line coach to
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: look like and sound like just somebody's just gonna tear
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: somebody's head off.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: Like yes, building building breaking down side.
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: Like he was doing this thing where he was like
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: showing guys like technique and like it was like a
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: beam in his backyard and he like put like a
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: pad up there.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: It was just like it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: And I was It's like Pat is getting task.
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: This is guy, this is what I want.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Now he's he's he's one of the He's definitely one
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: of the positives.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's and I like, I mean, all the
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: concerns we talked about at the top, but I do
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: think there are some you know, things to look at
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: that are you know interesting. Just how's it all gonna
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: come together? I think we're all I mean, I'm really
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: waiting for those wide receivers coach, those tight ends. I
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: mean I think those are important. I mean, those are
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: tight ends. You got no tight end, so this guy's
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: gonna probably have I mean maybe, I mean I'm all
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: for bringing back Henry, but kind of a bank blank
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: slate at that position.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Nolan and California says, I guess with Van Pelt's plan,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: to run the ball. We're gonna need five running backs.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I hope we get quarterback with the third pick and
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: a good round two receiver with high tower coming back.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Do you guys see any more formal players come back.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I'd love to see Randy Moss come back. That's not happening,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: just hav An alumni.
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: Uh, you know, I don't think you know that. Normally
• 40:49
  Speaker 9: I'm on Paul's side of the street with the whole
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: running the ball wins championships thing. But if you're you're
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: running the ball for the right reasons, then all the
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: good teams run the ball, like you know, San Francisco, Detroit, Baltimore,
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: like those teams all run the ball well. But it's
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: not running the ball to like run the clock and
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: ball control and possession. It's running the ball to set
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: up explosive plays in the passing game.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:13
  Speaker 9: So if that, if that's what you mean by this
• 41:16
  Speaker 9: is our foundation, We're gonna run the ball, We're gonna
• 41:18
  Speaker 9: play action, we're gonna hunt big plays. Then that's one thing.
• 41:20
  Speaker 9: If you're telling me you're gonna run the ball so
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: you can win seventeen to fourteen, then I'm with Paul.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I mean, would have kind of assuaged
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: some of your concerns if they just said, look, we
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: want to throw the score and we want to run
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: to win. We want to throw early and off and
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: we want to get points, and then we want to
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: have some tough running backs.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: That'll be able to close things out. I mean, I
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: did it, But that's a cliche.
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: Sometimes the cliches are what you need.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: You know, that's just to make calm the nerves. That
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: was so what They just handed you the playbook and
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: they're like.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: But as much as I hate running the ball, I've
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: never said you can't run the ball like I don't
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: you need to run the ball twenty times a game,
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: you know, ish, you know, fifteen to twenty two times
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: the game. I mean, even the good team, like I
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: would not say Kansas City is a running team. Somehow
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: they found a way to win three titles in the
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: last five years. I mean, you don't have to quote
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: run the ball, but that's not like an all or
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: nothing thing. You have to run it sometimes.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta be a little balanced, Yeah, be able to.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: Got to you gotta be good inside the five. You
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: gotta be good in short yardage and you gotta be
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: good in the formnute offense. Yeah, as you said, to
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: throw the ball to score and run the ball to win.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Although I do think that most teams believe that it's
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: hard to just flip that switch and then all of
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: a sudden, we're we're gonna run, like you have to
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: kind of establish it, especially.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: For those are the teams that I'm not interested, especially
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: when they want to establish, especially when you talk to
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: offensive linemen.
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: It's just it's just you need to There's nothing wrong
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: with running the ball. It just has to be for
• 42:50
  Speaker 9: the right reasons. Like we were talking arguing about this
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: on Cash twenty two, Barth brought up, well, it gets
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: cold in the winter time in New England, so we
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: got to no, Like, I have no time for that.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: That's why I like Drake May. I think he'll hold
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: up in the winter time. Yeah, yeah, I mean size
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: and his arm strength.
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: Do you do you wonder though, I mean, if they
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: don't really know right now, like exactly what they're going
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: to do, because they don't really have a quarterback and
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: they don't really have a running back behind Romandra Stevens,
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: you know, Like I mean, I just I wonder how
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: much of the offensive philosophy is still fluid.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: You know, I wonder how much of the.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Offense is going to be here when the season starts again.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Who is our offense?
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be label this because we talked
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: about it for you know, most of the show. It's
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: not about what they're actually going to do come September,
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: because that's going to change based on personnel. What do
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: they want to do?
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Score points? How depending on who we have, if we
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: have no wide receiver, if man have if Marvin, if
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison's on our team, I want him to score point.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: But I'm asking, if you had your druthers, if you
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: had the players that you want to score in the
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: manner that you want, how do you want to play?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I want to have, you know, a modern offense with
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: a quarter back who can extend plays if he has to,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: but can read deep.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: And they might not have the players to do that.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: Totally understood, Like they don't even I mean they literally
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: don't have a quarterback. I mean that's not even being
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: you know, Andy Hardish, that's just they don't have a quarterback.
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: But these these three quarterbacks at the top of the draft,
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: and I get it, like I'm not asking them to
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: tip their hand to who they're who they like, and
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: who they want to say. But these three quarterbacks at
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: the top of the draft are all stylistically very different.
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: So if you have a vision of this is how
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: we want to play offense, then that fits one quarterback
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: more than it fits the other.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't it make sense for Alex van Pelt
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to just talk about running right now and not talk
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: about the kind of offense that I'll tip their hand.
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: I loved what Alex van Pelt said. He's the first
• 44:46
  Speaker 9: person in two months that ex actually talked about football
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: in this organization. Perfect.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: But to your point, you don't tip your hand on
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the style of quarterback or offense that you want because
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Right, But I would just so now you're mad at him.
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: Not he did tip his hand in the style of
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: offense he wants to run.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: He talked about running. Yeah, he didn't focus on the
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: type of passing game.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: He wants because he wants to run.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: You're being difficult, No, no, no, I'm not.
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: I watched his offense for the last four years. Friend,
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: I know how he wants to play offense because that's
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: exactly how we said he wants to play it in
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: the one minute clip we put on Patriots dot Com exactly, which,
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: by the way, the Boston Globe claimed a video issued
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: by the team, like well it was that it's not
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: the way they said it was not. That really bugs me.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: They steal the information all the time, claim it as
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: their own, and then they're so dismissive that paper deserves
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: everything they're getting with John Henry and the Red Sox
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: falling apart, couldn't wish enough bad things on that paper.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: No, but I think that, like you know, we're feisty.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: They just steal stuff, like you can't say Patriots dot com,
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: Like you can't say that video that appeared on Patriots
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: dot com, Like that's impossible for you.
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: It's it's also just funny when we like do like
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: obviously going back to like the podcast with Bill and
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: stuff like that, Like we do these things and people
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: make such a big deal out of it. Like we
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: posted a graphic with like players on it the other
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: day and people were tweeting which players were on the graphic,
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: like it meant something.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I know, I was hidden messages.
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: It doesn't mean anything.
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: The way it was explained in the Globe story was that,
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: and you're the only one that still reads it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 12: No, no, no, it was.
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: It was portrayed as they got the video from the Patriots,
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: like the Patriots gave it to them, said right about
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: it as opposed to Patriots dot Com had a video
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: with Alex van Pelt talking, We're going to have one
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: today with Covington, right.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure, I think so.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: Secrets Springer too, Yeah, spoiler, you know, we talked to
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: all of them. We talked about it last.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's today, but we'll have all three.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: Yes, I think Covington is today, and that is going
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: going on Patriots dot Yeah, it's not, and it's not
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: being sent by the Patriots media relations department to all
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: the various outlets you could go on. We're right, Like
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: I'm not telling you you need to give the Patriots,
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: you know, give us credit for like, well, great gat.
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: We know it's not a great GAT. We decided to
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: have the coordinators available and we talked to them. But
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: but I'll Paul, I'm not I'm not looking for my flowers,
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: But I'll bet you that the conversation that's going on
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: at the Harold and the Globe right now is you know,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: they're making an exclusive. We should be able to talk
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to him too, And that's what they're saying.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, even if they wanted to say they made him
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: available to their in house media, that's accurate. Having it,
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: you know, distributed through the team is not accurate. That's
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: not what happened, right like, And it's intentionally derogatory.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: We're doing it for entertainment purposes.
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: We're not doing it for because I'm crazy doesn't mean
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: I'm always wrong.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: We're not doing it for the media's benefit. We're doing
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: it for our fans benefit.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: A lot of grousing today, speaking of flowers policy, what's
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: going on?
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: I don't know that.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: I was that yesterday.
• 48:08
  Speaker 9: No, you didn't get bet flowers.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: I got okay from the gas station on the way home.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: There you go to it's you. We actually the intersection
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: that was selling.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: We do not do Valentine's Day.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: No, we don't really either.
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: The only reason why I did do Valentine's Day this
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: year is because of the unfortunate birthday incident of last August.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: No, No, it's it's a season.
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: Evan's gotta tell his story about about his Valentine about
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: about well birthday present, birthday President.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is a good story. Oh yeah.
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: So a couple of weeks ago, Jess tells me that
• 48:47
  Speaker 9: she would love to have, uh, We're going to the
• 48:50
  Speaker 9: Bruins game on her birthday and she said that she
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: would love to have a birthday message on the jumbo truck.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: So, being being the great maintenance at all, being.
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: The great, being the great guy that I am, I
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: call in a favor with the Bruins and get get
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: it up on it. They want no our ticket wrap
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: actually helped me out and I got a birthday message
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: up on the jumbo tron. She texts me on Tuesday
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: on her birthday as I'm driving into work and she goes,
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: you didn't actually get my name up on the jumbo
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: tron tonight, did you?
• 49:25
  Speaker 12: And I was like, what do you mean?
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: She was like, I'm gonna be embarrassed. I don't actually
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: want you to do that.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: And I was like, oh my god, you told me
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: you wanted me to do it, even hire me too late.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: So then it'd be nice.
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: But no, no, no, no, no no no, So just
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: to put a bow on it. We we get the
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: message was it was the ship had already sailed, so
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: the message was already up there. It doesn't say who
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: it was from. It just says regards happy birthday.
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: Jess ruins, nothing at help front is from Marshy.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: So so she was like, is is that for me? Maybe?
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: Do you want it to be?
• 50:05
  Speaker 13: Well?
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: Was it something where you had to write the custom message?
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: And I can show you what did email?
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: I literally, yes, I love you forever, Evan. Well, maybe
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: I did not.
• 50:18
  Speaker 9: Regards happy birthday, just love Evan.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: That's not that hard.
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: How many's There was no time, there was no room.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: Thanks for the sex. You didn't.
• 50:31
  Speaker 9: Wow, that's my fiance.
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: Good thing you didn't go Jesse. Okay, oh no, she
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: doesn't like Jessica, but you would have really run out
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: of space.
• 50:39
  Speaker 9: Her parents are the only ones that call her Jessica,
• 50:41
  Speaker 9: and like they say it like Jessica, you know, and
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: I'm like, off limits.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: That's triggering, that's laying and Michael with me. Michael, all right,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: you get a lot of Michael's. That's my personal story
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: for if I like mister birthday.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Let's get down to the keep going there on the
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: age ticket hotline eight five five pats five hundred is
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the Ace ticket Hotline. We'll start with Nick in Australia.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: What's up Nick?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Hey, guys. Good.
• 51:10
  Speaker 14: I another question for Evan and mine been something that
• 51:15
  Speaker 14: we don't talk enough about the pass rush. So I
• 51:19
  Speaker 14: don't know about the draft that I keep up with
• 51:21
  Speaker 14: it too much, But is there anyone in the draft
• 51:23
  Speaker 14: that we should look at getting or free agency because
• 51:26
  Speaker 14: Jon's only getting older and I don't think that pass
• 51:29
  Speaker 14: rush is ugly that good. So just wanting to get
• 51:31
  Speaker 14: your opinion on what direction.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: That you go with edge rushers pass rusher.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's important.
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: I think you could, you know, find I gotta admit,
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: like I get a little bit tempted by I know
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: Evan doesn't. But the Darius Robinson guy who is down
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: at the senior ball, who's who's pretty badass.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think he'd be a great fit for
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: what they do, but he's probably late round one, early
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: round two kind of guy. So I don't know. I
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: think it's always bring built back.
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: I'm sure he could take him.
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: I no, right, but I just I think it's a
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: long term important position. And you know, we we did
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: a little mock draft video for fun there that I
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: think will be out probably tomorrow, I guess.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: So it's just something to think about. Everybody's so distributed
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: that will be distributed to them.
• 52:14
  Speaker 11: I like.
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: So this is actually something that I've been thinking about
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: with free agency because we do our previews and I
• 52:21
  Speaker 9: was I do offense and duced Do's defense, and I'm
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: looking at the offense options and for the most part,
• 52:26
  Speaker 9: the guys especially that are going to get tagged, are
• 52:28
  Speaker 9: going to be out of the picture. T Higgins, you know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: things like that. And I would just kind of rather
• 52:33
  Speaker 9: than spend the money where the talent is right, like
• 52:35
  Speaker 9: don't go chasing Nelson Agile or two point zero again.
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: And you actually look at this edge rusher class and
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: free agency is absolutely loaded. I mean, whether it's Bryce Huff,
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: Josh Types or obviously Brian Burns and those guys at
• 52:49
  Speaker 9: the top. But this edge rusher class and free agency
• 52:52
  Speaker 9: is really.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Really bir It's the guy from Carolina that.
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: You know, but like Jonathan Greenard, Brian Burns, Josh changed,
• 53:00
  Speaker 9: not from Jacksonville, josh.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Allah, what change?
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: It used to be that Brian Burns is the baby
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: who was complaining. Now it's that Mac Jones.
• 53:10
  Speaker 9: I said, yeah, it's a really good free agency class
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: at edge rusher, and I look a couple of years ago,
• 53:17
  Speaker 9: Juden was easily their best signing. So like, my, maybe
• 53:21
  Speaker 9: they reducts that again and they signed one of these
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: edge rushers instead of paying a receiver.
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I saw somebody say it's really hard
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: to rebuild your offense through free agency, especially, so it's I.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Like what Evan's saying.
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: I think that those those positions should really be looked at,
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: you know, retaining like just they need some long term
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: stability along the defensive line because after this year, it's
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: it's gonna be everybody's going.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: It's interesting to me, I think we could make a
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: good case study about that. Is it harder to rebuild
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: on one side or the other?
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Maybe specific when you need everything that the Patriots need
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: an offense, you can't fix that in free agency. I mean,
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: that's it's a non starter. But like, how many teams
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: added a an alpha receiver and completely remade their offense.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Including the Patriots Randy Moss.
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: Right now, the Patriots added a lot. I mean, that's
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: a great example of completely rebuilding your offense through free agency.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Well, that's an example though, Fred. I think of the
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: ones that we just don't know, Like, you know, when
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: you go get Moss and you know he's a distressed
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: asset for another team that isn't actually on the free
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: agency market. And yeah, you know I've had some, but
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: I was Brown. Yeah, no right now. And that's but
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Fred's is just trying to figure out those moves. It's
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: so hard to do. Those are somebody suggested Jack Conklin.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's building through veteran right.
• 54:33
  Speaker 9: But my point, I guess is that someone in that
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: receiver market is going to get disgruntled and become available.
• 54:40
  Speaker 9: Last year wasn't quite you know, DeAndre Hopkins was probably
• 54:43
  Speaker 9: the best one. It wasn't quite as big of a
• 54:45
  Speaker 9: year for that. But over the last four or five years,
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: whether it's Digs, you know, the guys, you guys named A. J. Brown,
• 54:52
  Speaker 9: Tyreek Hill, whoever, someone's gonna not get someone's gonna get
• 54:55
  Speaker 9: pissed off, and someone's gonna get traded.
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: It's just a matter of you can hold rather than
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: just take T Higgins or whoever.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: You know, Brandon Ayuk.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: You know, there's good receivers that Mike Evans, there's good
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: receivers that are going to be on the free agent market.
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: But I don't think it matters in terms of I'm
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: with Fred. If you acquire a big time player and
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: then you're gonna give him money, that's the same as
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: a free agent.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:19
  Speaker 9: No, I agree with that, you know what I mean.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: And I don't really agree with the notion that it's
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: harder to do that on offense, yeah than defense.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I agree with that.
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: I just think that you don't know who is available
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: via the trade, right right, Yeah, Like I wouldn't want
• 55:29
  Speaker 9: to try to remake my offensive line by signing like
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: Tyron Smith.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: Right yeah, yeah, that's and that's I don't I don't
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: think that makes a lot.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: Somebody in the mail bag had suggested Jack Conklin, who
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: just signed a big deal with the with the Browns.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: But then you know, Devon Jones is kind of pushing
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: him off the rock, you know, so could that be
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: again he's a Browns guy, you know, those kind of
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: moods that aren't enough of that kind of conjecture. I mean,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: we said everybody wants to just jump right into the
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: third overall pick, but there's you know a lot of things.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: You know, the forty nine is with their list of
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: stars that they have. At what point did these guys
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: start you know, falling? You know, and it's super available.
• 56:01
  Speaker 9: Brandon Yuka's getting there, so he's you know, his fifth
• 56:04
  Speaker 9: year options next year, so they have him under contract
• 56:07
  Speaker 9: for one more year. What about like Bosa, No, he's
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: signed big money for a while. But the interesting thing
• 56:13
  Speaker 9: about Brandon Nyuk is like he's more of that natural
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: type of receiver, like a traditional type of receiver. Do
• 56:19
  Speaker 9: they look at it and say we'd rather him than
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: Deebo Samuel And does Deebo Samuel become available?
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: It's interesting.
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: I mean, obviously, I think the forty nine ers are
• 56:27
  Speaker 9: just going to try to keep everybody, but at some
• 56:30
  Speaker 9: point I agreed, at some point someone is going to
• 56:32
  Speaker 9: get loose and isn't going to be able to be resigned.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as much as I love him, I'm starting to
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: think that way too. He's just too hurt too.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of wear and tear and what what
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: do you think he was so upset about all those carries?
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, right, Well, and the problem with him is
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: that he needs to play that way to be effective.
• 56:52
  Speaker 9: So if you're not giving him the ball on the
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: on the jet sweeps and things like that.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: I'd take it. Oh, don't get me like, I think
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: he's a good player, really good player, but I don't
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: know how much longer he's going to be that now.
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't thought, to be honest with you, I would
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: have thought very similarly about Tyreek killing. He's kind of
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: making that look look bad. He's had two amazing he
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: said this next year is last year. No, but I'm
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: just saying I would have thought that when Kansas City
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: let him go, you probably had seen the best of him,
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: and you didn't. You had two great years, Miami.
• 57:22
  Speaker 9: This is for all these reasons. This is you know
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: why I wonder if the Niners priorities Ayuk, who's more
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: of that longevity, traditional you know, type of route runner,
• 57:32
  Speaker 9: type of receiver, versus a guy like Deebo who might
• 57:35
  Speaker 9: be starting to wear down a little bit. So I
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: don't know. I just look at free agency trying to
• 57:41
  Speaker 9: learn from the lessons of the lot of a couple
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: of years ago of why some of the things didn't
• 57:45
  Speaker 9: exactly work out. I think a lot of it is
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: because they paid top dollar for like C plus talent,
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: so I'd rather than pay Antoine Winfield junior.
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: Do you see what they're gonna have to pay in
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: this class.
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: Again, like the one class you kind of like, oh,
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: you look back on that with like romantic eyes and like, oh,
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: you know, they got a bunch of like mid round
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: mid you know, they filled a bunch of holes. But
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: after twenty twenty one, it feels like get the talent,
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: you know, like use free agent to get guys like
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: Jude On who you know are going to make I mean,
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: and Hunter Henry even for what.
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: Boy like my boy's all growns up your family. You
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: finally get it.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: Well, it took five years of watching the Patriots.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: Horses horses over pony s, as Tony says.
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: Well, at least in free agency, you know, and it's
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: it's that's I mean, use those draft picks, use those
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: late round draft.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Picks to you know, take those kind of swings on
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: those of those kind of guys.
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: Just take any other day. You know, the fifty year
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: option thing, it's just a first round picks. What do
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: you would you think it would make any sense if
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: instead of just first round picks they said you could
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: use that on one member of the draft class. Hmm,
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: instead of it having to be a first round pick.
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: Well, how much is it? Does it pay relative based
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: off of their production for the first four years or
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: does it continue on the same wage skill? Yeah, because
• 58:57
  Speaker 9: it's not fair to the player at that point. Like
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: I think it's ridiculous. You know, the workI wage scouts.
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: I can't believe the NFLPA agreed to that to begin with.
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: But it's terrible.
• 59:08
  Speaker 9: It's terrible.
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: I'm terrible players union, it really is.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Eldred, North Carolina. What's up, Eldred?
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: But I hadn't thought about the details of how they
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: get how that shifty year off.
• 59:18
  Speaker 11: Hey Fellas, Hello, he heard your rent this morning?
• 59:25
  Speaker 9: Which one I'm glad are you? And it about everything.
• 59:30
  Speaker 14: I had to draw the line, bro, we have to
• 59:33
  Speaker 14: draw the line.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: I watched him to get to scouting and.
• 59:37
  Speaker 9: That's come out great.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Mate.
• 59:39
  Speaker 15: You watch him when you comes to scout.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Get ready for the combine or get ready for the draft.
• 59:44
  Speaker 14: We watch them every weekend because either week.
• 59:47
  Speaker 11: Cooking out or way at the bar, and what we
• 59:50
  Speaker 11: see is what we see.
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: You love them because his size and a strong arm
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: and okay, so so only people from Los Angeles are
• 59:58
  Speaker 9: allowed to have an opinion on William.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: I've watched him play plenty of games. I'm very impressed
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: with them. Listen, that doesn't mean I'm right. There's a
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: lot of guys that I've been wrong about over the years,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: but it's not because I didn't watch them play so right.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: That's like, I think my point is elder and I'm
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: like being an a hole. I realize that, But my
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: point is is that we all watched the same We're
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: all watching the guy play, We're all watching the same games.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 9: We've all watched him play. We all have different opinions.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: That's fine.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: We're not all required to see everything the same.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I know we're not.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 15: But will it make a bit with you, Evan, I'm
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 15: gonna make one with Paul wished them out a bit.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: If I owe you something, send me your address. I'll
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: send it to you. I don't have Matt Morrell send it,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: though I can vouch for Matt Morell. He showed me today,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: set out numerous multiple.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: You're all getting your six shirt today if we draft them.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give I gave you about nine games, and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: you see what we're talking about. If you're right you.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a little I'm
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: gonna be a little stubborn though more than I need
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: to see him quarter I'm not gonna saddle him. Like
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: if he gets stuck here with nothing around him, I'm
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: not gonna blame that just on the quarterback.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 9: I just think, Okay, we'll be fair.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 15: I did I give him a year?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 14: Give you a year?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: I think how about three? Can we Can we wait
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: three years for a draft?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: For three?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: You're not going anywhere, bigie.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Well, you're watching your phone and you're driving your truck.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: I mean that's come on now, No, seriously, you gotta
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: give him a couple of Like okay.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 14: On the.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 11: I told you year you won't get rid of.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 15: And I told you the people to get drafted before him,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 15: and he was.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: And I said that that Nikhil Harry would be better
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: than the guys that were drafted after.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: Him, to.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Harry's good.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 15: But I said, the guys are drafted after Harry and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 15: before Harry a whole lot better than he will be.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: If I owe you something, Eldred, I'd be happy to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: pay up. But I like, I literally referred to Harry
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: as a bust in ot as ot as before he
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: before he got to his first training camp, I said,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: this guy can't run routes, he can't get open.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 9: I just think one thing that you have to do
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 9: with the draft, and this is why I picked fun
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 9: at the people from North Carolina. The college production and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 9: winning and losing in college does not make you a
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 9: good NFL prospect. It doesn't make a difference. So if
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 9: Jaden Daniels won the Heisman Trophy, that doesn't guarantee that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 9: he's going to be a good NFL player. I think
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 9: it's a good prospect. I'm just saying that college production
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: and college success and the stats that you put up
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 9: in college, that's not how That's not what we're doing here.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: Well it's not the only thing, but I like this,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: it's almost nothing.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I like to see people succeeding well.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: They've all succeeded. All three of those guys have succeeded well.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying in general, I'm not just talking about
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: those three guys. I mean it's good to see guys
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: have production.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: When you draft based off of college production, you get
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: into trouble.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: I'm but I would just say that. And again, Tim
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: Boyle excluded all college quarterbacks that are up for the
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: NFL Draft succeeded. They had stats fill in Eastern who
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: threw more picks than touchdowns. Because I couldn't believe it
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: when I when I was reading that stuff about I
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: didn't know anything about Tim Boyle. That game that he played,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: the Black Friday game. He he was uh, you know,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: they were talking. He's like, he wasn't even good in college.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: How was he even in the league. I think he's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: Rogers's buddy. He's another one of those guys.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Fill in Eastern North Carolina. I'm a very long time
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: listener since right around when the show started. Probably I've
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: been in North Carolina since about the time, and I'm
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: blown away by the idiots down here talking about Drake
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: May The people from here saying he can't play are
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: no doubt North Carolina State or Virginia Tech fans. Both
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: fan bases hate UNC with every fiber of there being.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: They spend more time talking about UNC than their own teams,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: especially North Carolina State. Drake is a great kid, a leader,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: and talented. He and Sam Howell struggled the last three
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: years behind a very poor pass blocking line and limited
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: skill talent. He has plenty to work on, especially his footwork,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: but he should be our number one choice. Oh there's
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: there's a North Carolina vote for it.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: I like all three of those guys. By the way,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: there's just I think Evan said it about a half
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: hour ago. Just there's a lot of differences between the three.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: They're not all the same style.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just not even allowing myself really to invest
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: in Kayleb Williams because I just I just can't see
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: it the way one.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 9: Or two And he cried that one time and he
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 9: totally out on him, just like, why can't I just
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 9: wish Kayleb Williams that the conversation was because he does
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: have flawses as a player, like there's no perfect prospect,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 9: but we don't like here people talk about those things
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: because it's all about the crying and all, you know,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 9: his attitude and this and that and the other thing.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: If I had the people like these North Carolina people
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: calling me about Caleb Williams talking about how he holds
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: the ball too long and tries to extend every play,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: plays hero ball. It doesn't play within the structure of
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: the offense. I would take all of that, yeah, over
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: that he cried after the Utah game or the Washington whatever,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: And all of those.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: Are legitimate knocks I would say about Caleb Williams.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: And he's a little smaller than i'd like. He's six
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: to one.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Willson Cranston.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: What's up?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 16: How are we doing today?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: Fellas?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: Well, hey lady, Hey, hey lady.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 16: I want to touch on the three quarterbacks today.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 16: I think Caleb Williams. He is the best talent in
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 16: the right now, but I'm a little bit scared of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 16: him to play in our market, considering how quick we
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 16: were willing to do away with Matt Jones. Oh, but
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 16: I think I'd be happy with either Drake may or
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 16: Jayden Daniels. But the question I had today is, would
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 16: you guys be more comfortable with Drake may or with
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 16: Jadon Daniels, Because what makes me nervous is that Jaydon
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 16: Daniels had Elik Neighbors as the safety blanket, and he's
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 16: one of the best receivers in the NCAA right now
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 16: as well. So would you guys rather have somebody who's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 16: kind of isolated as far as known talent.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 11: With Drake May or would you guys rather.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Go Jayan Daniels whoever Ben McAdoo wants, That's who I want.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 9: But I think that's the point that I'm trying to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 9: make is that next, well, comparing Drake May's stats in
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 9: college to Jayden Daniels is not Apple's Orange. It's not
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 9: a fair because not only does he have Leake Neighbors,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 9: he also has Brian Thomas, who's also going to go
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 9: in the first round at receiver from LSU, and Michael
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: Pennix has like sixteen guys that are going to go
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 9: get drafted on his offense. So if you had put
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 9: Drake May in LSU's offense and he's throwing them Elik Neighbors,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 9: he's throwing to Brian Thomas, and he's got all these
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 9: weapons around him, like, you don't know.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: How it would have looked.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: I think there's also a lot of intangible factors involved
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: with that kind of stuff. With the amount that is
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: on Drake May as compared you know, like this year,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: the amount that and this would be a red flag
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: to me on Caleb Williams, like he had the great
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: year where he won the Heisman and he's the guy
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: he's in the spotlight and he didn't handle the spot
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: He didn't have as good a year his last year
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: as he did two years ago. That would be a
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: red flag for me. But that's football, like he you know,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: maybe he wasn't ready for that amount of scrutiny. He
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: sort of put himself in that spotlight with the you know,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: the stuff he did with Notre Dame on his fingernails
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: and things like that, and then he played by far
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: his worst game against Notre Dame. Like that would worry
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: me a little bit.
• 1:07:53
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  Speaker 5: And we're back with another edition of the Halftime Show.
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  Speaker 5: I am joined by a new potential co host. Is
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: this the audition? Does he stay a long time? We
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: got Chris Cassidy say hello, what's up? I snagged this
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  Speaker 5: kid right from his desk. He wasn't ready for it,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: so I'm putting him on your gun here. Oh yeah,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: all right. We're gonna start with some Trivia's always Chris
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: don't answer? All right? Question one? Who was the halftime
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: performer for Super Bowl thirty six?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: Question two? What number was Patriots receiver Michael Floyd. All
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: he's known for is that big block. And then number three,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: who caught the first pass for the Patriots of Super
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: Bowl forty nine. All right, send your answers in the
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  Speaker 5: web Radio Patriots dot com. Chris, I switched it up
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  Speaker 5: on your little there. Yeah, yeah, and forty nine, forty
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  Speaker 5: nine and Chris, we are gonna do some start bench cuts,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: all right, and your task for the day was come
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: up with some start bench cuts. Let's discuss them, all right.
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  Speaker 12: Let me thank here for a quick moment.
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  Speaker 4: For you.
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  Speaker 12: Let's doo.
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  Speaker 18: I'm gonna start with three super bowl all right, all right,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 18: first one super Bowl I think it was thirty nine.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 18: Start super Bowl thirty nine, super Bowl forty nine, and
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 18: super Bowl fifty one.
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  Speaker 5: It's easy money y, spice it up a little. I'm
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: going to start forty nine. That's like one of the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: bad best pass teams of all times, and I think
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: they played one of the best teams like that defense
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: leading to boom all time bench fifty one, cut thirty nine,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: like good team.
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  Speaker 12: I just wasn't was it thirty ninety nine? It was
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 12: a thirty eight.
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  Speaker 5: I get a mixed up too. We won so many yeah,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: I think thirty nine. It was yeah, yeah, alright, well yeah, yeah, no,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: you agree. What's your what's yours for me?
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  Speaker 12: Thirty nine, forty nine, fifty.
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  Speaker 5: One, fifty one?
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  Speaker 4: Three?
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  Speaker 9: Correct?
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  Speaker 5: Okay that I.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 18: Would start that one, all right, forty nine, I would
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 18: bench that one, and I would cut thirty nine.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: See'd start fifty one.
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  Speaker 12: I would start fifty one. Okay, okay, okay, I bench
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 12: forty nine and I cut thirty nine.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: The real question is how old are you in thirty nine?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 12: That was three years old. Three years old.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: You watched three games of glory for that one day.
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  Speaker 18: I did.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 12: Oh, I remember, Oh you should thirty six, thirty six.
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  Speaker 12: I was not even one yet.
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  Speaker 5: You're gonna scare the listeners.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 12: Not even one yet.
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  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: What you got next? Next?
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  Speaker 18: I would say, top three. I'm gonna list three receivers.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 18: Are three big catches from previous games, all right, and
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 18: you're in at the start bench cut all right. First
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 18: Edelman's catch against the Falcons.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 12: And Super Bowl fifty one. There you go, there you
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 12: go get my Super bowls right.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 18: Second, Camberl Tompkins overtime sorry, end of the fourth quarter
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 18: catch against the Saints. Third one is Gronk over the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 18: middle against the Broncos, and I think it was twenty thirteen.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, sounds about right. Ye see, yeah, that's right. All right.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go star Edelman. And this is just because
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: the moments, the Super Bowl big moments, you know, and
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: you're gonna bench Kemberrill Tompkins. I remember I was in
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: college for that one great great day that that Also
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: the best part about that catch was just the drive
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: by Brady's throwing that I meet the Kemberll Tompkins and
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: Austin Coley, so that one and then got to cut
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: the Gronk catch although it was great with this robotic arm, So.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 12: I agree with that.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 18: I think it's a really close toss up between Kemberle
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 18: and Julian to be honest with you, all right, I
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 18: feel that way because I don't know, it's just obviously
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 18: the Super Bowl big moment. You have to start that
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 18: one for Julian. But for me, with that Cambervill catch,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 18: I just remember as a fan, like a young fan.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 12: Like again, I think that was also twenty thirteen season.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 12: Just crazy how it just sticks in my memory.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: It will be interesting if you put like go at
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: the edeline and catch be out. If it wasn't in
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl exact, then then then then we have
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: a discussion there. Yeah, agree to the moment the moment,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: I agree. All right, let's get one more.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: And one more?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, oh god, it's a lot of pressure tastes.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 18: All right, well, I'll just let's do one not sport. Really,
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  Speaker 18: I'm gonna do something crazy dinner foods.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, you know I love food.
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  Speaker 18: All Right, we'll start Sorry, no, I'm not starting, but
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  Speaker 18: we'll go chicken, and we'll go steak, and then we'll
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 18: go let's go haddock.
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  Speaker 12: Let's start haddock in there?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: Do you want to just do fish?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: Either is a type of chicken when we do it
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: like chicken tenders?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 18: Sure, however you want to, all right, let's do let's
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 18: do primary, let's do chicken tenders, and let's do let's
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 18: do I don't know, fried trip.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 12: Trip all right, right, totally random.
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  Speaker 5: I'm starting tendies, okay, like, let's starting tendies and I'm
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: benching the prime rib and I'm cut in the shrimp,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: cut the shrimp. It's tough though it's close.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 18: All right, I would start see, I would start that
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 18: prime rim. Like if you get a good piece of
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 18: prime rib and you're you're eating that, it's so good.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 18: You got the juices and stuff. I'll bench the tendees.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 18: I'm cutting the fried trimp. I'm actually allergic to shrimp tease.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Now I know.
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  Speaker 12: There you go. That's why I'm calling it all right.
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  Speaker 12: Thanks for joining.
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  Speaker 5: Remember I said your trivia answers to the web of
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  Speaker 5: Patriots dot com. Man. Let's get back to the show.
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  Speaker 19: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, no
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 19: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,
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• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: And now great moments in.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: History?
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  Speaker 20: Am I allowed to call out other PU listeners slash callers?
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 20: If so, I would like to call out Todd in
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 20: North Carolina for being a fraud whoa a week or
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 20: two ago, you called him out for all the.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: Background noise when he called into the show. He claimed
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: he didn't know why there was so much noise, and
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: then he might have been doing dishes or something. I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: have a hard time believing this story. Why would he
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: know well, why would he not know what he was
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: doing when he called the show.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 20: It seems like something you remember, Love you Todd, just
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 20: having fun and then he calls us out for our
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 20: background noise.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: So let's go to Todd in North Carolina. Todd, if
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: you called it.
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  Speaker 6: Perfect, If you did that on purpose, that was good,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: well done, my friend. No, I don't think you did
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: it on purpose. All right, that's another great moment.
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  Speaker 1: Already counting down the days until first kickoff. I know
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  Speaker 4: Monday?
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  Speaker 1: on a holiday.
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  Speaker 6: I was just about to say that I'm careful, Oh, Flora,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: next week the South where you're going college visits, college
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: visits so exciting, hoping to get recruited.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: You're gonna go by UNC Chapel Hill.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 9: Do you still have eligibility?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 17: We are?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: Are you stopping and see Drake may there?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: Although there was a kid at be you that played
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: like six years, so I think they are a little
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: lenient on the baseball side of it. By the way,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: we think you play three years for Suffolk three years
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: would be.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: We would be remiss if we didn't mention what happened
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: in the chiefs prayed yesterday.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: That's awful.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: That's a good point, Freddie.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the count is now, but
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I know at least one person died and a few
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: people are in critical condition.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: And it sounds like three people were arrested and that
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 7: it was just kind of like a beef beef between
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 7: these three people.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they were just I guess shooting everywhere.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: You know, No, it sounds like you know, one one
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: woman DJ there lost your life. I think everybody else
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: is expected to make a full recovery. But yeah, I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: wish I could say I'm surprised. This is what happens now.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sucked, you know, because it was a
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: day of celebration and then it ends in tragedy and
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: that's not good. Nope, Yeah, it's sad, all right. Eight
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  Speaker 1: five five pass five hundred is the ace ticket? Hutline,
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  Speaker 1: Pat in Agawan, No, that's that's not the one. I'm sorry, Pat,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I'll get to your a little later. But Speed writes
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: in speak he said, I emailed before the Super Bowl
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: saying I was rooting for Kansas City for the petty
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: reason of not wanting the net neutral quarterback idea to
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: gain traction, which I'm glad it didn't. And what was
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: a pretty sure test of it. You look at this
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: century for average quarterbacks who won it all, and there's
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Trent Dilford, Brad Johnson, maybe the Wentz Folks duo, although
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: I wonder if Wentz was above average, and the injury
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: that year in stalled his career. But those are exceptions
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: to the rule that net neutral quarterbacks don't generally win
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls? Right? How does Barth handle such facts?
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 9: Well, when you go to overtime at the Super Bowl
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 9: and you're like three plays away from winning, are you
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 9: really winning the argument?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: Speed. That's what I said on Tuesday. If I believed
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: in that side, nothing that happened on Sunday, would.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: You just look at who won and you said, this
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: is the truth, this is the way to do it. Again.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 6: If you do it that way, why do you bother watching?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: Just wait to see who wins? And that's the opinion fact,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: Like school board, Felger right, So board, a couple.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: Two plays go in different way, the result changes, it
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: changes all the sudden.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 9: We should build our team with the seventh round pick.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: And again, you know when you just get clouded by
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: wins and losses. So again, like Evan said, the game
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 6: easily could have gone the other way. I said out
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: on Tuesday, like if I was Alex and I believed
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: in that net neutral thing, nothing that happened in the
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: game would. But I would say if I didn't believe
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: in the net neutral thing, like I don't, I would
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: point to the luck factor of winning the first two
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: games in the playoffs, largely because your quarterback wasn't ready
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: to play in the first half of both of those games.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: He played well when he had to. To his credit,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: he came up big in the fourth quarter. But we said,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: if they can. If they play the same way, they're
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: probably gonna lose to Kansas City, And they kind of did.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, no trivia? Oh okay, we's all right.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 6: It's my favorite time.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: And I was just wondering if you had trivia you
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: want to just read it?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: Don't you just read them out?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: You could be part of the show. You have to
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: print it out. I know you're having printer troubles in there.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: Who was the halftime performer for Super Bowl thirty six?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: You too too?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: Come on, get out, Yeah, come on, let's.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: Make what number did Michael Floyd?
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: Fifteen?
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fifteen? I was gonna say eighteen. I knew that
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: wasn't right. I think I should say what number was
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: Michael Floyd?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: Fifteen?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Fourteen?
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  Speaker 4: Fourteen, fourteen?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: And who caught the first pass for the Patriots in
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl forty nine?
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Which one was that?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: Brandon Lafel, Yeah, forty nine?
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: With which one?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 9: Shane Veren?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Is that that the Seahawks?
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: No, Jules, it was Julian Jules.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: I got Gronka for an answer that makes sense? How
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: could that be?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 9: Well, we guessed everybody else, So all right, winners will
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 9: get their T shirts.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: I kind of went into that question thinking that you
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: know it was an obscure. Yeah, Rod Rutlicks.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Robert, speaking of games l has won from Wisconsin. This
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: is an either or game. Uh, Either or take a
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: quarterback at three and end up with a J. Cutler
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: level player, or trade down and leave the first round
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: with only a left tackle Jake Cutler.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: I guess j Cutler.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 6: I mean it's a good Cutler level player has some arm,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 6: but yeah, I'll take the left tack.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: Does he have his kind of like attitude smoking Jacobs?
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 9: Well, that's different, he said player exactly. That's why I
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 9: said Jake Color.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: So he has J Cutler's ability. He's really funny, Jay
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: Cutler with good mind.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: So you're gonna use your third round pick and you're
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: gonna end up with a J. Cutler level player.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: Talent, Yeah, talent.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 9: Jake Color is definitely talented.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: If you're gonna tell me he has JA Cutler's work ethic,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: then I'll take the tackle.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: Well that's what I think he meant.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: What he said football. That's a good it's a good
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: it's a it's a really good example.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Right, let me rephrase it you're gonna have the type
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: of career Jay Cutler.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: Hell, I'm still kind of going with I can get
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: a tackle anywhere.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: All right, to make it make it to nine, I
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: went round.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: Tackles are pretty good.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I'll try to read this question.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: Just have another conversation.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Make it to nine wins next year, scraping by to
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: barely beat only one playoff team, or have another top
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: three pick next year.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 9: Top three pick.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, top three pick.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 18: I think.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: So we're going to have to listen to the tank
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: it all year from.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: How about like you do, but you win like you know,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: two or out of your last three and you show some.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll take the nine wins.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: I'll take the nine wins, but that means because that
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: means they've made some additions to the roster that worked.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 6: I'll take the nine wins.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: Next year, I want I want to start.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 6: You tell me that you wouldn't think that that was
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: amazing to win nine games?
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: You're expected. But he wants, yeah, get it all at once.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: I know, question I want to start.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: I want to start.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: I don't know about your recent hires, man, they're way
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 6: too You.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Want to start developing a winning culture. Not a losing culture.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 9: I don't think. I don't think I count as a
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 9: recent higher No, I.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: Mean, listen to me.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: I think Paul's right though, like something had to go
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: right and they were, you know.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: So they like, so if that team's gonna win nine
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: games next year, that means they hit on some draft picks.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: But that wasn't hit on some free agency and Gerd
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: Mayo was pretty good.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 9: That was I would take that. That wasn't exactly what
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 9: the question was.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: He said, making the nine wins scraping by to barely
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: beat only one playoff like.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 9: A bad nine win team, I'll take.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: But that means all of those things happened. They are
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: not capable right now of doing that.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 9: That's not the way I took the question when you
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 9: say scrapping by. But I'm just looking at you finger
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 9: and brought. But you're going from four they last year?
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 9: Have I agree?
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: They lost to the backups last year. That's why they
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 6: went from seven wins to four.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 9: That's twenty twenty two. Like, I don't need another twenty
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 9: twenty two.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: All right, that's all dominate the regular season, but choking
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: the playoffs like Baltimore or have a ten point lead
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. But Kyle Shanahan is your coach?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 9: Z strays for no reason?
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: I know, got how about your guy? How about your
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: guy firing his defensive coordinate?
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: It's pretty fun pretty funny.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 9: There's there's more to that story.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, of course there is. Bill Belichick's going to
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 6: replace him.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 9: No, No, they had already. He had already taken over
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 9: some of the defensive game planning and stuff like that.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 6: Showed couldn't stop it that they had some issues, had
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: some issues.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Christian in North Carolina says, why isn't Jayden Daniels a
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: fit for a VP? Isn't Lamar Jackson's offense now very
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: play action heavy and run based. I don't get why
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't be a fit in an A v P offense.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson under center a lot.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 9: Now they run pistol, which that's how you get your
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 9: play action, which we've talked about in the past, is
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 9: a way to adapt it.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 9: Van Pelt's offense is traditional under center, hard play action.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 9: Off of that, it's just you're not not really a fit.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: It's just a officer, right, I mean, it's perfect for
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: Joe Flacco.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: That's like what he did, and even then he threw
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: one hundred interceptions.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: I like Flacco, it is what it is, Jordan writes
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: in I know there was talk or a report out
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: there that said it's likely the Patriots are trading Mac Jones.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: We know that there was interest from the forty nine
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: ers when Mack was coming out. Do you think it's
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: a potential landing spot for him? If not the forty
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: nine ers, where do you think Mack could end up?
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 7: I don't really think the forty nine ers, just because
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: brock Purty seems so contemporary to him. It just seems
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 7: like a weird kind of combination.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: Can I just guys pick at that again?
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: Sure, Like, do we really believe that that that the
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: forty nine ers really wanted Mac?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 11: No?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: No, because you know, I just they they moved up
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 6: from twelve to three and took another quarterback. Is that
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: just because of John Lynch? That's what everybody's saying, Like
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: Kyle Shanahan wants to fight John Lynch still to this
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 6: day because he didn't do that. Like, I just don't
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: believe it.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: I don't believe it. I'll just say what I don't
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: see is I don't see the way they got back
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: party planning. I don't see Mac Jones plan that way.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: Like Ma mac Jones, they will rolling out and you know,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: doing bootleg stuff like that's not mac Jones.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 9: Brock Party definitely has more mobility than Mac and like
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 9: mobility that he can actually tap into. Like I think
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 9: if they ran a race then maybe it would be
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 9: pretty close. But you know, actual in game mobility, Brock
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 9: Parties definitely moves around better.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, I just I just pushed back on the whole,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: like push. Kyle Shanahan wanted mac Jones, that's why they
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: moved up, and John Lynch overruled him.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: It's possible.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: I just don't why is that.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: I didn't even have to move because I don't think
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: you make a move that high in the draft for
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: a specific guy and then don't take that guy. Well
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: maybe I don't think that makes any sense at all.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: And there was no buzz. He was tough three guys.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. See, maybe the part about Shanahan liking
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: mac Jones is true, but maybe they moved up to
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: get Trey Lance.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, no, no, that's fine. I'll accept that. Yeah,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: that's not the story though. The story is that Shanahan
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: was pissed because he wanted mac Jones, but he was written.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 9: Maybe they didn't want to do the trade.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: I don't believe that you liked Lancelie. I don't think.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think guy.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, because it would have taken him.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: It wasn't his call. Yes it is.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: You can't be the god. Sorry, you can't be the
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 6: god of football and not have a b.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 11: No.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: But like, okay, so in any organ say you get
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: to draft, I apologize, you get to draft, and there's.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: This huge argument and you know, listen, Fredett, Well, Fred,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: you're right. I don't know. I don't know for sure.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: I just don't believe it. I don't believe that you
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: go from twelve to three to target a guy and
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: then change your mind and not take the guy. I
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: don't believe.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: But that's the way it's written.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: I can I can see Shanahan liking mac Jones because
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: he's that net neutral quarterback coming out of and in
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: my se I think, and in my system. And then
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: I could see Lynch liking the guy with more intangibles
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: and more skill, and then the owner saying, we're gonna
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: go with Trey Lank.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: You can't trade up the three. It's taking that neutral
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: guy though, right, Like, No, I don't know, that's part
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 6: May not be accurate, but that's the but that's the story.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 6: That's what we're pushing back on.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 9: I think the forty nine Ers trade up was it
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 9: didn't work out, obviously, but the idea behind it was
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 9: really smart because they already had Jimmy Garoppolo, so they
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 9: had the average quarterback and they took a big swing
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 9: on getting somebody that had a little bit more ceiling
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 9: and it didn't work.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: And I think that the the.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: I don't know, the attraction for Shanahan, if it was
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 6: true to mac Jones, is that he had the team
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: already and he was the most quote unquote NFL Right.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: I agree, and that's why I I that's why I
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: can see Shanahan liking mac Jones.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: I Evnan just told you why that was irrelevant because
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: you didn't need a guy that that year.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Well, Garoppolos always hurt and maybe they just didn't think
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: he had it.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 6: I agree with Fred that there's a I know that
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: mac Jones didn't.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 9: I think there was really they didn't.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Nobody knew it at the time.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 9: That the forty nine ers would have your would have
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 9: taken mac Jones at twelve if they had never traded up.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: That's different.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 9: I think that there's a really good chance that he
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 9: would have been the pick there.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: But the story, and I agree with Mike, is that
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: mac Jones was his guy, Like I have my choice
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: of these five guys, mac Jones is the guy, and
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: I don't believe that because I think he would have
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 6: taken them. That's all. That's all. That's that's the only
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: part of it that I disagree with, not whether or
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 6: not they felt like he was ready or not.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: I could see them, I could see them being.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: I don't think Kyle Shannahan thought he was the best
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: quarterback in the draft and then didn't take him at three.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Well, assuming it was all his decision, him and Lynch
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: worked that way, Okay, But wasn't part of the story
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: that Lynch disagreed. No, No, they all liked mac Jones. No,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: so they didn't like mac Jones.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: No, Shanahan liked mac Jones. Okay, I don't believe that.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: That's the part I don't believe.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: You don't believe.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: I think they were in agreement.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh, okay.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: I believe that he wanted me.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 9: I believe that he liked Mac Jones. I don't know
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 9: if he liked him at three, But you just look
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 9: at the quarterbacks that they they've had play there, Jimmy Garoppolo,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 9: Brock Purty like Mac Jones, and again brock Percy.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 6: I'm say, I don't know what the what the actual
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 6: truth is. I'm just telling you that's from afar. It
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: makes no sense to me.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: I could see ship.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe that is what happened. Maybe you're
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: exactly right, and Lynch overruled him.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: I don't like.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: I just don't believe that story.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Craig writes in about Jayden Daniels, if he was twenty
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: five pounds heavier, all things being equal, would your evaluations
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: of him changed?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 11: I like.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Daniels has likely always been the skinniest guy in the team.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: Do you think he has learned how to elude hard hits?
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky was the weakest, skinniest player one hundred and
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: seventy pounds. Opposing players say he was impossible to hit
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: hard because he was like checking a rope.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: Because Daniels had.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: The greatest super player of all time.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 9: We talked about this a little bit on Catch twenty two.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 9: But the concerns about Jayden Daniels's frame and like taking
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 9: big hits, I don't have those, Like I I have
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 9: concerns about him.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: As a pass I have a little of those concerns.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: I don't think Googler this morning, and he maybe have
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 6: even more concerns.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 9: He's he's reckless as a runner. He thinks that he's
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 9: Josh Allen and he's going to lower his shoulder and
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 9: run people over. But he'll learn, like I have no doubt.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 6: I think Lamar does the better job of that. And
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: Lamar is a lot bigger to me than he is,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 6: but helps when you can run like the wind. But
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson skips out of bounds a lot now and
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: he didn't used to do that.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 9: So if if Jade Daniels is the guy I like,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 9: I like to get coached out of them.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: I mean I like May too, But I mean this
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 6: is not an anti Daniels thing.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 9: No, I like Daniels too.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: Ryan and Lincoln Nebraska has some criticism. He says, are
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: you all aware that when you go to eat a
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: couple of goobers? Take over your radio waves and talk
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: about things like prime rip being worse than chicken tenders.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: Thought you should know. I did not know that. I
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: thought we were running. People are actually talking.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 9: That was that was they did.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 8: I didn't know that they did a because a halftime
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 8: charge they did do.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 7: They hijacked the show, like what do they They did
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 7: like a cut bench start kind of thing, and they
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 7: had like three foods.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 9: They cut for chicken fingers.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: No, I think I thought. I thought shrimp got cut?
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 9: Who was it? That's fair?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 11: Who was.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: Chris Chris Casside making his illustrious debut on the halftime?
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: I got intern.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: On a football note, if the unexpected happens when they
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: rolled qbs currently under quarterback or under contract, they should
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: say who best fits what we expect a VP's offense
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: to be, so they stick with what they have. Who's better?
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 9: Please? I don't know to entertain the question.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 7: I know, well, I mean and probably feeds into this
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 7: latest mac Jones report of the toxic locker room quarterback
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 7: room that Bailey Zappi.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: Was watching film reportedly watching film with the receivers.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: I don't know, is that that old?
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 6: I guess the Wickersham thing.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: Essentially something.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 8: It was essentially Albert mail bag today.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's from a Wickersham thing.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: Oh it's like one of those Albert Bear things right.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 6: Well, if in a mail bag. Yeah, he was presenting
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 6: it as his own story that he was distributed off of,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: you know, Patriot's MUTI relations amazing.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: I like this.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 9: I love it.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: He's got to be in his bonnet for the Globe.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Alex from Mount Holly,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: I just want to say I echo evans concerns as
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: a young fan. But yes, Paul, I still believe in
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Santa Claus. So I think Gerrod Mayo and this new
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: staff will be built the right fifty three man roster
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: with smart, tough football players. That was sarcasm in case
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: Fred Butcher's is delivery. More importantly, I was curious if
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: that map next to Paul has ever been hung in
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: the wall. I've watched the show for a while now
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: and I feel it has a permanent home on the ground.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: I'm coming up on five years here. I have never
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: seen us put a pin in that thing. No, it
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: ended we don't do that anymore.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 11: Eric.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: It's the opposite because Dean the no we someone would come,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: someone would call the show from a country, you know,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: a new country, and then I'd have Paul Eric. I mean,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: I'd have Eric put the pin in the show with
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: ground to a hat because he didn't know where the
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: country was. And yet he claims to be this you
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: know bon vivant, you know, international traveler, and he doesn't
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: know where Romania is.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 9: Every time you guys talk about Eric, I'm like that
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 9: guy sting nod.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: Somebody had to you guys the map to answer the question.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: The map was on the wall before you put all
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: the like the soundproofing and stuff. Yeah, studio is going
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: to get a makeover soon too.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're working on that finally. As someone who was
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: born and raised in North Carolina, and I think I
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: think they hate for Drake May comes from a lot
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: of people having hatred for UNC and compare him to
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: the type of guys like Daniel Jones and Mitch Trubisky
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: coming out of college when none of the locals felt
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: either of those guys played well in college. I've seen
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: this stuff happen several times times, So I don't know.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: He's a good player. I think if Drake May is
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: there at three put the card in.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what about Daniels.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say any of the I'm just
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: about there with him.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: Too, but me too, I think the guy yells at
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: me all the time.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: I think is Yeah, it's so.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 9: If you want the electric playmaker, that's Jayden Daniels. If
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 9: you want the more traditional but still has some of
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 9: the new stuff of mobility.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 6: Homes, it's May Josh Allen.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: That's what they'll no.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 9: It really is, I mean, it really is.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: That's what you have to hope something like that.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 7: I just think you're kind of victim to your circumstances
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 7: of what we kind of experienced the last couple years
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 7: at the quarterback position here. And there's just, you know,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 7: something intriguing about Jayden and Daniels having crazy athleticism. I
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 7: don't know how exactly it would translate, but I know
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 7: that he's always going to be a super athlete, so
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 7: I'm at least willing to watch how that goes. We
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 7: kind of watched the high floor guy for a while.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 6: You think he's always going to be that, huh, Well,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: I mean until he gets to year ten. And I'm
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 6: with you, but it's amazing how many emails. We get
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: now that style doesn't hold up, you know, like they're
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: waiting for Lamar Jackson to fall apart. Still, yeah, like
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: that like that already his And I just look at
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: the Mahomes. Mahomes won't be able to.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: Just I just watched Mahomes where like it's not like
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: Mahomes has to run the ball for their offense to work.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: It's just he waits till the right spots and then
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden they run.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 9: You know him, you know, he just keeps it and
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 9: goes and gets what he needs to do.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: You know what. That's that's what's appealing to me.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 7: And I think, you know, with Daniels, it's the potential
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 7: of like explosive plays off those It's not just Mahomes
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 7: weaving like he does, you know, to get the first downs.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: It's like, no, if this guy is able to go,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: he might take it to the house.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 9: That's there's something incredibly intriguing about actually playing eleven on eleven,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 9: where like the quarterback's legs are something that the opponent
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 9: has to game plan every single week, like we you're
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 9: gonna come into every game and whether it's design, run, scramble, whatever.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 9: Jayden Daniels can take off and run forty yards at
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 9: any point in time, and that's something that'd be fun.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: We've never really had that, Michael Bishop.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 21: We've never really had because they got by the time.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 21: We've never really had that by the time they got Cam. Okay,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 21: we did have it once. No, sorry, put the neck
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 21: roll on.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 6: Fourteen rushing touchdowns one.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but like Jaden has a different Oh, of course,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 9: this is that we're talking about evolution now.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: Falling apart on them.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: Sean's and Vancouver. What's up, Sean, Sean, Hey, Sean.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 22: Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, everyone, you know, in terms
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 22: of the complaint, you know, about the lack of details,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 22: in terms of what type of offensive philosophy is going on.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 22: I'm with Mike in your hopes that, you know, maybe
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 22: it's about these players and let's see who they're gonna
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 22: they're going to bring in because and then let's set
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 22: this pop because I don't want them to be you know, Okay,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 22: we're set in the Cleveland type of offense. We've got
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 22: to find our inn a joker player. We've got to
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 22: find our Nick Harris. You know, we've got to find
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 22: these specific type of guys, and that's what we're gonna run.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 22: I'd rather see. Okay, these are the players who we get.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 22: We don't know who we're gonna get with the third
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 22: pick is if it's going to be May, then yeah,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 22: maybe we can build around that. But if it's Daniels, Okay,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 22: let's let's try and build the system around that. Because
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 22: he's not going to fit into that Cleveland system that
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 22: we were running before.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 6: So then what are you going to do? Like just
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: out of curiosity?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 9: Is so like why I don't agree with this point?
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if if Daniels can't run a system that your
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: offensive coordinator wants to run, well, then what do you
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 6: do with your offensive system?
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 22: You're going to alter it and put in the plays
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 22: that he can run.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: You're gonna but what if what if?
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: What if Van Pelt isn't comfortable with that?
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 22: Well, that's what I'm hoping he is. I'm hoping that
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 22: he can adapt to.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: Now, I now I agree with you, Sean, and I'm
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 6: playing a little devil's advocate, but I think I think
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 6: Evans point is you you kind of pigeonholed if you
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 6: do it that way, and just would kind of like
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 6: to have an idea of the kinds of guys that
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 6: you're not specific players, but the style of player that
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 6: you're sort of interested in to see you know, what
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: would fit best. I don't think that you could just
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 6: plug any quarterback into any system. But yeah, if you
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 6: get Jayden Daniels, you're not going to ask him to
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 6: just play like Tom Brady and stand in the pocket
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 6: all day. You have had to sort of do you
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 6: had to go forbid. I just I look at I
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: look at it that that was worse than my if
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 6: you got to the goal line comment.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 9: I look at it differently, honestly, because I think that
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 9: they have they have a blank canvas. They don't have
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 9: any players that you have. We need to build around
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 9: this guy on our team because they don't have any
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 9: good enough players. So if you have this blank canvas,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 9: I would much rather Alex van pell and Elliott Wolf
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 9: and mac Ro to sit down and say, a VP,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 9: what how do you want to play? Who are the
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 9: types of players that you want? What does an Alex
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 9: van pel X receiver do? Like, what is his rout tree?
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 9: What are his sweet spots in the offense? What are
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 9: what are you gonna do with this player? And then
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 9: have the scouting staff sit there and say, here are
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 9: the ten guys that we think do it right, and
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 9: then draft one of those ten guys. If you start
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 9: to look, if you think Jayden Daniels is so talented
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 9: that you just it won't matter, he'll transcend, then fine.
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  Speaker 9: But if you feel that he's not that good, then
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 9: I worry about trying to take a player that isn't
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 9: a transcendent talent, and now we're putting him in an
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 9: offense he doesn't belong in, and we're asking a coordinator
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 9: to coach an offense he's not familiar with coaching. I
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 9: would much rather take Michael Pennix and because we think
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 9: he fits what we want to do than to try
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 9: to pigeonhole somebody into something that they're not.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 6: And for the individual players other than quarterback, it's not
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 6: like Amari Cooper or David Najoku have this individual skill
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 6: set that's impossible to find right good players now they're
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 6: high caliber players, but you can get guys that can
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 6: play the X by get like Evan said, or you know,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: work and tight end and be athletic enough to block
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 6: in runn You can find that to fit a system
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 6: like you don't have to like be stuck in a
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 6: system because you can't get those players that play in
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 6: that system. There's a lot of players that play in
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 6: systems like that. Now the quarterback is different, like quarterbacks
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 6: have different skill sets.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 9: I would just I understand that it sounds great in
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 9: theory that the offensive coordinator would be able to be fluid,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 9: that he could just check.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 6: But that's not how it is.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 9: It's usually not how it is unless you have a
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 9: really really good coach.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: I feel like I got a really good bead right
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: now on what you would want to hear. Can we
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: can we roll play this a little bit like.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: Very Actors Workshop, a little bit.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: Hollywood. I'm sure, man, okay, And and see Evan please.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 9: How did how did the New England Patriots play football
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 9: under Dorod Mail?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? Well, I appreciate the question, Evan. You know, obviously,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, I'm pretty happy with you know,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: what our defense has done over the last couple of years.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: But you know, I just I think as the team
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: comes together, we just offensively the game has evolved, you know,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: we have to find.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: A way to just be better on more explosive.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that's exactly gonna look like right now, Evan,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: because you know, we're still putting the team together. And
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: but my hope is that we can build an offense
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: that's gonna take us to the next level. That's what
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: needs to be done here. And I'm not sure exactly
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: how it's gonna come about, but that's how we're gonna
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: put it. And he told you nothing.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 9: See how that's my point.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: You don't have to say any that's gonna make you
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: feel better. You're a fraud, a fraud.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: I'm a fraud.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: All you want is a bottle, have a baby that
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: wants a bottle, a pascifier.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 9: At least he talked about football. At least.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: Been talking about a power.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 9: He said that he was gonna get an explosive offense
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 9: that hunts for big player.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 6: I disagreed that he said nothing. Whatever he said, he
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 6: talked about the need to get more explosive, more modern.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 9: More explosive.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: These are these are vision No no team wants that.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: Every team wants that we want, we want, we want.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: The previous regime was not.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: Interested in that.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: Now, let's go to the actor. What was your goal there?
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: O My goal was just to you know, limit evans
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: concerns and just to let him know that we have
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: a plan and that you know, we understand that offensively
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: been good enough. I don't ask for much, all right,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not asking he told you nothing.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 9: I'm not asking for the you know you to come
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 9: out with the presentation about what exactly you're going to
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 9: do this offseason and who you're gonna draft and who
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: you're gonna sign.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not asking for mine.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: I guarantee.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 9: Don't sound like a CEO from optim sound like a
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 9: head contract guarantee.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: I guarantee.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: I guarantee once Gerard does his first you know, real
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: press conference or at least gets to sit with us,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: he will say that and more.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: I hope, so Ford, please, we gotta get a down
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: with him on the board, and then Evan will be like,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: it's all good, that's fun, that's good.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 8: Was that a little at the beginning, a little y
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 8: homage to Stephanie. It was awesome.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 9: The next question would be Evan, I don't like silos.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: Now what's up?
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 11: Brent?
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  Speaker 15: Hey, guys, come, I'm not sure how to order this is,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 15: but can you guys run down really quick on the offensive?
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 15: Side of the ball, which of these guys you'd keep
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 15: and which ones you'd like to see go? And then
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 15: I'd like to see I'd like to see I'd like
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 15: to see Evans mock draft as well, other than Drake
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 15: May and I'll take him off one.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they're not going to tell us the guys, the
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 6: guys who are the guys, the whole offense.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 4: The whole guys like free agents or people that are
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: still there. You left us hanging there.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 6: And Stevenson, I'll pem' k.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: David Andrews.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: David Andrews.
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  Speaker 1: I know you've fallen off the day when you trained,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: but there was a time where everybody in this room
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: is like, you got to keep big Mic.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not on that train.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 9: No, okay, I'm a big Mic guy still, all right,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 9: I don't think you absolutely.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 6: I won't be upset if they keep them, but I'm
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 6: not on the pop Douglas. I'll take Tomorrio, Yeah, okay.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne born again, I'll come back player of the year.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 4: Can upgrade upgrade them, upgrading free agency, go get somebody
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: better than him.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 7: Well you can still, I mean, yeah, but you don't
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 7: need a log jam with dudes, you know, like, well,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 6: Want all those guys back.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: Well what about just those two pop Douglas and Kentrick Bourne.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 6: So now what are you doing with Devonte Parker and
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 6: Juju Smith Schuster? Okay, so how are you gonna get
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 6: someone to replace them?
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: You're gonna draft and you're gonna get through free agency.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 6: How do you guys feel that a lot of money
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: you're wasting on the cap that you think is irrelevant.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Well, we're building a new culture here, Paul. We're not
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: going to be exploded.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 9: We have money to burn.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: Which is the funny. He said that I would I
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: would upgrade that Born spot this year.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 7: I you know, I'm said a hundred times I'm resigned
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 7: to Parker outside at I mean, assuming that Van Pelt.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: Even plays that way?
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: Because do you keep Hunter Henry?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: I do for me. That's he's a priority.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 6: You're just running back the same offense.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, I just there's.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 9: There are some options in free agency end like Dalton Schultz.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 9: I like Gerald Everett.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 6: I love Gerald Everett.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 9: He's not he's never really produced down the field. Like
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 9: it's it's all those like scheme touches. Around the line
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 9: of scrimmage. But that's this offense, Like if you're going
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 9: to be running a lot of bootlegs and stuff.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 5: Like that.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: Forever, I'd like I take him. Jay'son defense intelligence, Thank
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: you for your service. What are your thoughts on the
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Patriots trading for fields and then picking up needed help
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: throughout the draft and free agency?
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 4: I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't hate it, but I
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 4: don't really want it, you know.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 7: I just I'd rather start with someone new and somebody
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 7: who doesn't already kind of have a bad give you know, good,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 7: I mean some good things, certainly.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: I mean we saw him here used to maximum the fact.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you could get Justin Field's twenty twenty
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: two against the Patriots.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that poor game, just like remember when he did
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 9: that to us?
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 12: Oh my god?
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 7: Well and it was funny because I mean that game
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 7: sticks out to me so clearly, because I remember talking
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 7: during the week and literally saying, why don't they run him?
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 7: Why don't they use him like the Ravens use Lamar?
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden surprise they did, and
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 7: it was great. And I don't know, you know, what
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 7: what went wrong from there? And why they couldn't stack
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 7: that and build off of that and to build that guy.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 9: The Bears and Justin Fields are exactly. My concern with
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 9: the Patriots and Jayden Daniels is that if you don't
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 9: know how to use a guy like that, then you're
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 9: you're taking away his superpower.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: Sure, and it wastes right.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 9: And if you can't play to that strain, then he's
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 9: not good enough at the other things to make up
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 9: for it.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 4: Do you know, would you know how to use him?
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 5: Of course he does.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 4: It's just like.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 6: No, I will say this, Okay, So go back to Baltimore.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 6: When Lamar got there, it was a great fit, even
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: though I don't like this guy as an offensive coordinator,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 6: to have Greg Roman who had experience doing that with
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 6: San Francisco and Kaepernick, and they brought him in and
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 6: that was perfect for Lamar Jackson. Now I think he
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 6: outgrew Greg Roman because Greg Roman's not really interested in
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 6: trying to throw the ball in any kind of a
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 6: sophisticated manner. They had, by all accounts, some of the
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 6: most simplistic passing concepts that you can't win with in
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 6: the NFL, and that's why they made the change and
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 6: their offense went to a different level, you know this
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 6: year with Monken. So to your point, there are different
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 6: guys that are better suited to use that kind of guy.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 6: I think Fields was a lot better this year in
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 6: the games than he played than he was after that
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 6: Patriots game last year.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, Calvin says. My fear with picking the
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: quarterback is don't you think all the teams that passed
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: on potential higher ceiling eyes like Lamar or Mahomes believe
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: they didn't want them because their choices were better scheme fits.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: I think the talent upside high ceiling is more important.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Take a shot, go for Daniels, and I hope the
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: presence of McAdoo talks an a VP out of best
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: fit over transcending talent or upside.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: Well, I like the theory.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know necessarily if it's true
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 6: with the individuals that we're talking about, but I do
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 6: like the take a swing if you think a guy
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 6: has a higher ceiling a higher upside.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 4: I like that theory. I agree to. That's why there's
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: not really any of those guys like I feel like
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 4: later in the draft. I think people aremating skilled five guys.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 4: It's it's it's it.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 9: Shocks me Paul that Drake May isn't more universally liked
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 9: because he the skills that he has are the modern quarterback.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 9: He's six ' five with a huge arm, with great
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 9: running skills, with some of that offscript magic like he's
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 9: he's basically Josh Allen.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 6: I think people are so spooped by Trubisky with him, and.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 9: People want it, don't see don't see it that way
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 9: they see Daniel Jones or Trubisky or something like that.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 9: I thought that Jaden Daniels would be the lightning rod
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 9: of this draft. I thought that he was going to
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 9: be the one and everybody was going to say, is
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 9: justin fields you can only run? You know that has
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 9: done not good enough as a passer, And instead it
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 9: really seems like Drake May is the one that's the
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 9: unpopular pick.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Uh Trent writes in I don't understand that Justin feels interest.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: He's always proved, he's already proven, he's not a franchise quarterback.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: Why not take a shot on a guy who hasn't
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: failed in the league yet. Even if you don't love
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: a quarterback at the third spot, Trade back. Draft a
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the second or third round with potential and
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: see if you can develop him. And Paul, it's not
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: only that Caleb Williams cried, is that he cried, paints
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: his nails, has a weird relationship with both his parents,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: and none of his teammates went to his birthday.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: There I love when I love when none of his
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: teammates went to his party. Line comes out for any quarterback.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 6: Like again, all that stuff is worthy of except for
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 6: the birthday. All that stuff is worthy of being on
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 6: the evaluation. Absolutely. I just want someone to tell me
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 6: why they don't like him as a football player. Tuesdays,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 6: I am with Dane Brugla. I think he's the best
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 6: football player in the draft.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 9: Me too.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: Tuesday, Evan was saying he likes how millennials are the
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: target demo for Super Bowl halftime shows nowadays, because growing
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: up he didn't know and had to ask his dad
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: who the performers were. Who didn't you know, Evan? You too,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: Tom Petty, Paul McCartney, Springsteen. I would say, stick to football,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: But your football takes are just as bad as your music,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: Oh Spider, like that see this show? Go shine your
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: shoes your catch twenty two people.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: You know these go home and.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 9: True statement In two thousand and one, I was actually
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 9: at the Super Bowl Super Bowl thirty six with my
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 9: dad and did ask him who Paul McCartney was. I
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 9: was eight, so you know that I was very up.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: So you know about the Beatles, right, I do?
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: Now it's Audrey says, I'm totally with Evan that the
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: corporate speak is so meaningless and certainly doesn't instill any confidence.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: But it's only February, and please, two words I never
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: want to hear again. Collaboration and de facto.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: De facto.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't mind a de facto, but the collaboration
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 6: I've had enough of.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: You know what I hate more than collaboration, collab?
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: Collab.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 4: We're gonna collab collab with them. That's another one that's
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: not not so much for the football team.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 6: That's more just likes don't generally work.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: We're gonna do a collab with them.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 9: I don't think this as much of it.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Todd in North Carolina. What's up, Todd?
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 11: Hey, guys, I was gonna call in and rattle Evan's cage,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 11: but somebody already did that. I was just thinking that,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 11: you know, Evan, you're a little spoiled. You've been so
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 11: lucky with the team that you've gotten all the good stuff.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: You haven't had to live.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 11: Through some of that older stuff. And trust me, you
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 11: mean when you cheer for the team in the seventies
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 11: and the eighties, there was spots you could cheer, but
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 11: there were times when you're like, oh, dear.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: Lord, and you just we're going through that now.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 14: Well that's what we're going to go through.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 11: And I think that this is the way teams go.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 11: They cycle, and I you know, I kind of like
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 11: the fact that Crap likes whom he's got as a coach,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 11: and I'm kind of hoping that they work together and
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 11: they surrounded themselves. And I'm glad that Wolfson and I'm
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 11: glad that there's people there that will give some guidance
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 11: and kind of find a direction. I think that's what
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 11: we got to wait for. And I know Evans, one
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 11: of these guys has got no patience. He wants to
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 11: see everything now and know what's going on because he's
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 11: young and there's nothing.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: Wrong, because he's a generation millennium.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 11: You know, that's what happens.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 9: They haven't won a playoff game five, how it.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 11: Comes out, and you know, be pleasantly surprised if you
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 11: can be.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 9: I'm not allowed to be to want them to be
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 9: good again, all right now the straight but you're.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 11: Not allowed to want them to be yeah, amazing in
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 11: their first.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 6: The problem is we have to do a show every day.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 6: You know, it's like the Felgrim mass thing, like you
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 6: got to do a show, like we can't wait to
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 6: see what happen happens? What will you need us for?
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 6: Like I can just tell you what happened. I don't
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  Speaker 6: know if you know this, Alex, but the Chiefs won
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl?
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: Did you know that?
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  Speaker 4: Picked that happened?
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  Speaker 9: She watched the game?
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  Speaker 11: Like, Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: The problem was we had to sort of talk about
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 6: what we think the Patriots are doing, and before we
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 6: do it, we have to talk about it and sort
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 6: of give our thoughts and opinions on what they what
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: we think they're doing.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: And overreacting and overreactings and overreacting is a huge part.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: Of that, Johnny and matdtown says Fred, you should do
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: off season picks with other sports or maybe even stupid
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: award shows like the Oscars. Low Steakes just for fun.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: Could be a dumb idea, but I miss hearing. We
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: got a hurry on Thursdays and Alex, you have your
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: hair look great, keeping awesome. And I've been to Chapel
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: Hill once. Do I qualify to have an opinion on
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: Drake May on this show?
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  Speaker 6: Yes? So now I'm going to come back in two
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 6: weeks because I am going to spend some time in
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 6: Chapel Hill and I'm just going.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 9: To They were right, you know you should bust out
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 9: your little pole.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, leave my little poll alone.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: A little pole down there? What they think are on
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 4: the campus?
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: May?
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, your name portable pole? Did you see Paul's little
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: pole when he had a fact?
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 6: Anybody will like it? South Carolina, I'm going there too,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 6: Ryan Atlanta.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: We'll end with this email. I don't know why these
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: North Carolina people are so down on Drake May. I
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: saw him live versus Georgia Tech, which by my standards
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: makes me an expert in all things Drake May, and
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: I was very impressed with him. He was athletic, ran Well,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: had great accuracy on the field, very active with his
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: teammates on the sideline. In terms of motivating making adjustments
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: and talking with coaches. Also in terms of clutch factor,
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  Speaker 1: he was leading a game winning drive until Tess Walker
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: fumbled on the Georgia Tech twenty five yard line.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he doesn't have it.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: I would be thrilled to get him at number three.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 9: I've seen it since high school and these stinks.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah he did. That's Jayden Daniels is coming off a
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 6: great year, whereas Williams and May are coming off Compared
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 6: to the previous year, it was role reversal. It was
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 6: Daniels was okay, then great, and Williams and May were
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 6: great and then okay. So I don't know if you
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 6: think that's a trend. I don't know. What do you think, Freddy,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 6: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: All I know is that that's it for this edition
• 1:56:21
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