Latest / The Eye of Jupiter Podcast / 80 Dragged by a Dogman: A Chilling Story from the Pine Barrens with Darrell Denton
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back. This is episode eighty with a
- 0:03Speaker 1: good friend of mine, Daryl Denton. He comes back on
- 0:06Speaker 1: to tell a story about So Daryl moved from Tennessee.
- 0:09Speaker 1: He's originally from Tennessee. So he moved to New Jersey
- 0:12Speaker 1: with his new woman, his new lady, and he's down
- 0:15Speaker 1: near the Pine Barns. And there's a guy he came
- 0:19Speaker 1: into contact with. Because Daryl's well known in the crypto community.
- 0:23Speaker 1: He's good friends with Martin Groves and Barton nun Lee
- 0:26Speaker 1: and Ron Moorehead and M. K. Davis. He knows, you know,
- 0:30Speaker 1: all the people who are incredible in what they do
- 0:32Speaker 1: in their research and their encounters and who have tried to,
- 0:35Speaker 1: you know, make you know, make sense of what all
- 0:38Speaker 1: this is. So he's well known and respected in the community.
- 0:42Speaker 1: And he came back on and he was talking to
- 0:45Speaker 1: a gentleman in the New Jersey area that he moved
- 0:48Speaker 1: to and he was looking for his new research areas.
- 0:50Speaker 1: And this gentleman, I don't know his name, went to
- 0:55Speaker 1: his favorite fishing hole and one day he ran into
- 0:58Speaker 1: a dog man out at the cemetery. Uh, he was
- 1:00Speaker 1: afraid to go back. Yes, Daryl, if you go out there.
- 1:02Speaker 1: He didn't want to go in the uh and then
- 1:04Speaker 1: and even in the nighttime, so he went during the
- 1:08Speaker 1: day a couple of times with him or whatever. And
- 1:10Speaker 1: then then one time one night Daryl went, didn't see anything.
- 1:13Speaker 1: And when no night he heard something, didn't see anything.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Then one time the guy and his wife went out there.
- 1:18Speaker 1: She was like, come on, let's go out and uh
- 1:21Speaker 1: there was just this altercation where she was trying to
- 1:23Speaker 1: relieve herself behind the truck. And it's just it's an
- 1:25Speaker 1: incredible story and very scary and uh yeah, so uh,
- 1:31Speaker 1: it's it's one for the ages. Guys, go ahead and
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- 2:23Speaker 1: a lot of fun over there. It's it's a great time,
- 2:26Speaker 1: you know, en doing this show. I'm very happy that
- 2:30Speaker 1: I can have people like Daryl and become friends with
- 2:33Speaker 1: these people who are just well versed or have had
- 2:37Speaker 1: these experiences, and it's quite incredible, you know, Like as
- 2:41Speaker 1: a podcast grows and the more people I get to
- 2:44Speaker 1: you know, know and meet, it's just the more I believe.
- 2:50Speaker 1: I'm not saying I didn't believe in the past, but
- 2:51Speaker 1: I was always on the fence. But I'm leaning more
- 2:54Speaker 1: and more towards the belief side of things. And I'll
- 2:56Speaker 1: just be honest with you. You know, some of these
- 2:58Speaker 1: stories sound fantastic, but some you know, some of them
- 3:02Speaker 1: are I don't know how to say it. It just
- 3:05Speaker 1: it seems too good to be true. But when you
- 3:07Speaker 1: listen to these people's voices and you hear what they
- 3:09Speaker 1: talk about, either their matter of factness about it, or
- 3:13Speaker 1: you can hear, you know, the timber in her voice
- 3:15Speaker 1: or the fear in her voice, or you can see
- 3:17Speaker 1: it in their eyes when you actually watch them over
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- 3:23Speaker 1: You Rumble, you can go over there and see me
- 3:25Speaker 1: as well, and good and follow me while you're over
- 3:27Speaker 1: there as well. And it's just incredible the things you
- 3:30Speaker 1: run into in this world. I don't think everything uh
- 3:34Speaker 1: you know, they say nothing is new that's under the sun.
- 3:37Speaker 1: I don't know, man, there's portals. There's just things that
- 3:40Speaker 1: are coming out in the show and the journey and
- 3:43Speaker 1: the process of meeting these people and telling their stories
- 3:47Speaker 1: has just been fascinating. And I had a lot of
- 3:50Speaker 1: personal growth, you know, speaking with people and learning how
- 3:53Speaker 1: to be a good podcast. And I think a good
- 3:56Speaker 1: part of that is being a good listener. So if
- 4:00Speaker 1: you guys are being you guys are being good listeners,
- 4:02Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Sometimes these are hard to do,
- 4:08Speaker 1: but I enjoy nonetheless, and most of these are one take,
- 4:12Speaker 1: so if I mess up, I just keep it in there,
- 4:13Speaker 1: no big deal. And please enjoy the show and try
- 4:18Speaker 1: to support me any way you can. And uh, yeah,
- 4:21Speaker 1: enjoy this one with my buddy Darryl Dnton.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Uh be here once again. Tom. It's always good to
- 5:27Speaker 2: be with you, brother, Thanks for having.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Me, Thanks for coming on man.
- 5:30Speaker 2: It's uh.
- 5:31Speaker 1: You were talking a little bit about stage. It has
- 5:32Speaker 1: been quite a challenging year for you.
- 5:35Speaker 3: It's been pretty crazy, you know. I've in the last
- 5:38Speaker 3: over the last year, I kind of moved to Jersey
- 5:40Speaker 3: to be with my lady here and uh I go
- 5:44Speaker 3: home to Tennessee every month and uh still try to
- 5:47Speaker 3: get with my team as much as I can, but
- 5:49Speaker 3: it's been a tough year. Ronnie is back out west
- 5:52Speaker 3: and he and I are supposed to be at Beach
- 5:54Speaker 3: Foot the fourth of July, and uh, I'm honored just
- 5:59Speaker 3: to be in much less of the fact I'm not
- 6:03Speaker 3: going to be there due to some other problems. But
- 6:06Speaker 3: Ryan will be there and it's it's a great events
- 6:08Speaker 3: out in Oregon.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Uh.
- 6:10Speaker 3: That's that that Uh, that show is the top one
- 6:14Speaker 3: hundred researchers in the world. And uh, just I have
- 6:18Speaker 3: my name and I mentioned in that I'm honored. So uh,
- 6:21Speaker 3: I wish I could have been there, but I'm not
- 6:23Speaker 3: gonna be able to. So Brian and Phillis in on that.
- 6:26Speaker 3: My my buddy, my best friend, Martin Groves has been
- 6:30Speaker 3: super sick this year and he's uh got surgery coming
- 6:33Speaker 3: up here in the next week.
- 6:35Speaker 2: And I appreciate to keep him in your prayers.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Absolutely, Absolutely, my buddy Barton, and he's having a few
- 6:42Speaker 3: issues too if you keep him.
- 6:44Speaker 2: In your prayers. So besides that, I'm honored to be
- 6:47Speaker 2: here again.
- 6:47Speaker 1: And Buddy, yeah, so it's interesting now that you're in Jersey,
- 6:51Speaker 1: you should be maybe going down to the pine Barons
- 6:53Speaker 1: there and see what you can find.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Oh man, I done got some crazy stuff going on here.
- 6:58Speaker 1: I mean really, I.
- 6:59Speaker 3: Didn't even I didn't even have to get I wouldn't
- 7:01Speaker 3: hear no time before before I had my first bigfoot encounter.
- 7:05Speaker 3: And uh, it's pretty crazy. I've got these for some reason.
- 7:11Speaker 3: It is crazy. People can think it's crazy because for
- 7:14Speaker 3: some reason these creatures seem to know where I'm at
- 7:17Speaker 3: or find me or something. But I had one coming
- 7:21Speaker 3: around my lady's property here and she'd never seen one,
- 7:26Speaker 3: or even then she wasn't real aware of the bigfoot situation.
- 7:30Speaker 2: But anyway she is now.
- 7:33Speaker 3: But uh, and I've also had some a couple of
- 7:37Speaker 3: areas where I know they're at and know where they're at,
- 7:40Speaker 3: and I found them. I found them off a highway
- 7:43Speaker 3: up here in a certain area. And it's not far
- 7:46Speaker 3: from the pine bears. The pine barrens are kind of
- 7:49Speaker 3: you know, stretch almost the length of the state. They
- 7:51Speaker 3: go a long way. And if this area, I'm I'm
- 7:54Speaker 3: still shocked to see how remote it is. Now I'm
- 7:56Speaker 3: in South Jersey, which.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Is okay, then you wait down, Okay, you're down near
- 8:00Speaker 1: to pine barons.
- 8:01Speaker 3: At least that's exactly right. I'm in the pine barons.
- 8:04Speaker 3: So it's it's so it's it's amazing. I thought, you know,
- 8:08Speaker 3: I always thought Jersey was a concrete jungle. This is
- 8:10Speaker 3: woods and woods and woods, and it's not being out
- 8:14Speaker 3: in the country.
- 8:15Speaker 1: And yeah, I imagine more in the north, like from
- 8:18Speaker 1: Philadelphia Camden all the way through New York, that whole
- 8:20Speaker 1: little stretched there. It's you know, they grow smoke stacks
- 8:22Speaker 1: up that way. But where you are you're not that
- 8:25Speaker 1: far from, like, you know, Atlantic City, I'm from I'm
- 8:29Speaker 1: from Baltimore, So you're not really that far.
- 8:31Speaker 3: From Oh yeah, I didn't know, you know what you
- 8:33Speaker 3: did tell me and I forgot that. I actually go
- 8:35Speaker 3: through Baltimore every time I go home to Tennessee. So, uh,
- 8:39Speaker 3: ninety five tunnel and exactly.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Yeah, well then you're if you think that if you
- 8:44Speaker 1: go off ninety five on six ninety five on the
- 8:46Speaker 1: west side, did you go up with one or two exits.
- 8:48Speaker 1: I'm right there. That's where my that's where my family is,
- 8:51Speaker 1: right there, literally a mile.
- 8:54Speaker 3: I'm not that far from you man. You know, I'm
- 8:56Speaker 3: only I'm only about a little less for an hour from.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Failing Okay, okay, okay, yeah, that's why i'm myself. That's
- 9:07Speaker 1: where I'm not there now, but.
- 9:09Speaker 2: Like twenty I'm like twenty five minutes from Atlantic City.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Okay, so I know where you are about. Yeah, that's
- 9:16Speaker 1: that's a that is a remote area of Jersey. People
- 9:18Speaker 1: always thinking like you were saying, like it's just you know,
- 9:20Speaker 1: the toxic waste dumps and this and that. Know, but
- 9:22Speaker 1: that's a certain part of Jersey outside in New York
- 9:25Speaker 1: and Philly, but the rest of it is very remote.
- 9:27Speaker 1: And uh, it's especially the pine barrens. I was watching
- 9:30Speaker 1: the whole a whole thing on you know, The Jersey Devil,
- 9:33Speaker 1: and how weird it is there. You can go in
- 9:35Speaker 1: there and it's very flat, sandy pine trees and you
- 9:39Speaker 1: can get turned around in the blinket eye don't even know.
- 9:42Speaker 1: It's a very tricky place to go into.
- 9:44Speaker 3: You know, I've been in that area by myself quite
- 9:46Speaker 3: a few times. There's quite a few people up here
- 9:49Speaker 3: that don't know I'm here. And uh, there's also a
- 9:53Speaker 3: grape here. Uh baffoot grape that heard I was here
- 9:58Speaker 3: and I breaks out to the na sad to me
- 10:00Speaker 3: a couple of times. I haven't met up with any
- 10:02Speaker 3: of them, but they're super good people. And uh, you know,
- 10:07Speaker 3: my good friend Alexander was up here about three weeks
- 10:11Speaker 3: ago with small town monsters and and he didn't know
- 10:14Speaker 3: I was here either or not anybody knows I'm in Jersey.
- 10:18Speaker 1: So oh, I know small town monsters. That's him and
- 10:20Speaker 1: his wife, right.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Uh, well, you know sath Braide love uh pretty much
- 10:27Speaker 3: run small town monsters. But you know, you got Alexander,
- 10:31Speaker 3: and you got there, there's there's you got, Heather, you
- 10:34Speaker 3: got there's there's about ten or twelve people that's in
- 10:38Speaker 3: right organization and they're good people.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Yeah. I watched her. I watched one of their documentaries
- 10:44Speaker 1: on the LBL and it was fascinating. It was great.
- 10:46Speaker 1: They do great work. I really enjoyed. I actually reached
- 10:48Speaker 1: out to him and the didn't reach back to me.
- 10:49Speaker 1: But you know, that's how it is when you're still
- 10:52Speaker 1: a small fry on my am. But nonetheless, you know,
- 10:54Speaker 1: you know, I shoot.
- 10:55Speaker 2: Out to him.
- 10:56Speaker 3: That's probably not okay, I stay so busy. But uh,
- 11:01Speaker 3: if you watch the l b L when I was
- 11:03Speaker 3: in that one. So Martin Groves and I were in
- 11:05Speaker 3: two of those documentaries on the LB.
- 11:08Speaker 1: I've seen the one with Martin and it for sure
- 11:09Speaker 1: when he took them out to the location and you
- 11:11Speaker 1: can still see like, uh, it's right there where he
- 11:14Speaker 1: was standing is at the bottom of a cemetery, right, And.
- 11:18Speaker 3: That's that's the documentary they've done that We where we
- 11:22Speaker 3: seeing the A Huge dog Man back in October of
- 11:27Speaker 3: twenty two.
- 11:28Speaker 1: All right, right, is that the one that materialized besides
- 11:31Speaker 1: your truck there when you were at Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 11:35Speaker 1: we're a little firing, But could you tell people a
- 11:36Speaker 1: little bit about yourself. I mean, if you guys don't
- 11:38Speaker 1: know who there is the Tennessee book foot Man, is
- 11:40Speaker 1: that like the new your new thing?
- 11:41Speaker 2: There?
- 11:42Speaker 3: Let you because you know, I really I've actually didn't
- 11:46Speaker 3: call that for a long time. And I and I
- 11:48Speaker 3: and after I've been a couple of conferences were at
- 11:51Speaker 3: this year. Everybody just started the last two years, I
- 11:54Speaker 3: just started to introducing me as a Tennessee bigfoot man.
- 11:57Speaker 3: So I just kind of stuck with it. So, you know,
- 11:59Speaker 3: it's uh, it's it's you know, it's an honor to
- 12:01Speaker 3: be Kyle that. But you know, there's a lot of
- 12:03Speaker 3: great researchers in Tennessee besides me. But uh, I guess
- 12:07Speaker 3: I've been doing it longer than most have. You know,
- 12:09Speaker 3: a lot of the younger guys are uh you know,
- 12:12Speaker 3: they just got started in it. But I've been doing
- 12:14Speaker 3: this a long that it's just like a regular deal.
- 12:17Speaker 1: To me.
- 12:18Speaker 3: I don't get as excited as a lot of people
- 12:20Speaker 3: do about but uh, I get a little more excited
- 12:24Speaker 3: about dog Man because you know, Martin Grows and and
- 12:27Speaker 3: Ron moorehead and and and Martin and none, and we've
- 12:31Speaker 3: all been into the dog man in the last four
- 12:33Speaker 3: or five years and trying to research it more because uh,
- 12:37Speaker 3: not that I know everything about bigfoot. I'm not expert
- 12:41Speaker 3: at anything, but I've just done so much with bigfoot
- 12:44Speaker 3: and had so many experiences I've I'm trying to learn
- 12:47Speaker 3: a little more about what the dog man creature and
- 12:50Speaker 3: uh I've been I've seen four of them and they're
- 12:54Speaker 3: they're uh. One was completely different than one on the
- 12:57Speaker 3: documentary that small Town Monestary deep by Martin. I've never
- 13:01Speaker 3: seen anything like that in my life. But but anyway,
- 13:05Speaker 3: I'm from Tennessee, grew up there, you know. I've been
- 13:10Speaker 3: doing research since after my first experience in November of
- 13:15Speaker 3: ninety two or where I was scared today as why
- 13:18Speaker 3: a deer hunting and about twenty eight foot up in
- 13:20Speaker 3: a tree had a big fit come out and with
- 13:22Speaker 3: my granddad called a woodburger, and I thought this thing
- 13:26Speaker 3: was going.
- 13:26Speaker 2: To kill me.
- 13:27Speaker 3: And I never knew these creatures existed. I'd heard about them,
- 13:31Speaker 3: but really never crossed my mind where I was in
- 13:32Speaker 3: the woods hunting, So that got me started on it.
- 13:35Speaker 3: I didn't I quit hunting after that.
- 13:37Speaker 2: I was.
- 13:38Speaker 3: That was definitely the scariest I've ever been in my life.
- 13:41Speaker 3: It was life changing. And I got fortunate enough to
- 13:44Speaker 3: run into another family on the river about seven years
- 13:47Speaker 3: later by accident while I was fishing, and that family
- 13:50Speaker 3: really made me realize that all these creatures aren't.
- 13:54Speaker 2: Bad, and a lot of them are just a lot
- 13:57Speaker 2: like us.
- 13:58Speaker 1: I just had a super intelligen pursuer intelligience.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Intelligence and that got me into it.
- 14:03Speaker 3: And you know, it's been over thirty years that I've
- 14:07Speaker 3: been doing this, and uh been a lot of.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Times in the woods, deep in the woods by myself.
- 14:12Speaker 3: And I don't suggest anybody do that anymore because there's
- 14:14Speaker 3: way too many things out there because you don't know
- 14:17Speaker 3: about but uh, you know, the average part is setting
- 14:20Speaker 3: home on the counts or driving down the highway with
- 14:22Speaker 3: his family has no clue what's in these wilderness out
- 14:25Speaker 3: of there.
- 14:26Speaker 2: They really don't.
- 14:27Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you can go into that a little bit.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Has like, do you think that the populations have increased
- 14:31Speaker 1: or that we're more aware of them? What is your
- 14:34Speaker 1: take on that?
- 14:35Speaker 3: Plan is a combination of both, But I know they've increased,
- 14:38Speaker 3: especially on beat for it, because there's just more and
- 14:42Speaker 3: more of them than that. I think there's more sightings
- 14:45Speaker 3: now because you've got a lot more people that are
- 14:48Speaker 3: out looking for them too, and you don't just find
- 14:51Speaker 3: boot for it to fine year and one believe that
- 14:54Speaker 3: if they don't want you to find them, you're not
- 14:55Speaker 3: going to find them. They got to feel that you
- 14:58Speaker 3: have good intentions as you're out there. So uh, these creatures,
- 15:02Speaker 3: although just sharp, chase you out or run you out
- 15:05Speaker 3: of the woods, they will do that, uh, scare you
- 15:08Speaker 3: to death where you'll leave it won't come back. But yeah,
- 15:13Speaker 3: I think they've increased. I don't know about the dog man.
- 15:15Speaker 3: I've been studying that but about five years, you know,
- 15:18Speaker 3: but uh, I.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Know the big for it. One believe they've increased. And
- 15:22Speaker 2: plus you've.
- 15:22Speaker 3: Got you know, businesses and new homes and that type
- 15:25Speaker 3: of thing encroaching on the area and running them into
- 15:28Speaker 3: the areas that they weren't before. And and it's more
- 15:32Speaker 3: open minded now than it was when I When I
- 15:35Speaker 3: got into it and had my first sighting, I couldn't
- 15:36Speaker 3: tell anybody. They all would have thought I was crazy,
- 15:40Speaker 3: you know, because you don't go around telling people that
- 15:42Speaker 3: you've seen a big foot because.
- 15:43Speaker 1: You held you held public office too, didn't you, sir.
- 15:46Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a mayor at that time actually when
- 15:49Speaker 3: that happened, and Martin grows three months later, four months
- 15:54Speaker 3: later he had an encounter and he was chief deputy
- 15:57Speaker 3: sheriff in my county. We were we were best friends then,
- 16:00Speaker 3: but you know, we've been best friends forty five years now.
- 16:03Speaker 3: So right, yeah, every day one of us could tell
- 16:06Speaker 3: anybody we had just each ever to talk to, because
- 16:09Speaker 3: you know, people would have thought we were crazy, they
- 16:10Speaker 3: wouldn't taken serious, probably wouldn't been elected again, or probably
- 16:15Speaker 3: would have been taking Martin might have been taken out
- 16:16Speaker 3: of his position at the sheriff department.
- 16:18Speaker 1: So right, right, there's a lot of stigmatism around things
- 16:21Speaker 1: like that. And nowadays, I don't know, I don't think.
- 16:23Speaker 1: I still don't think if you're a law enforcement officer
- 16:26Speaker 1: or or an elected official, that you can just kind
- 16:28Speaker 1: of still come out and say, you know, oh yeah,
- 16:31Speaker 1: I've had this. I don't think. I don't think that's
- 16:33Speaker 1: a possibility still, But I do think people are a
- 16:36Speaker 1: little bit more like, oh, you know what I mean,
- 16:38Speaker 1: more than like, oh, what is with this?
- 16:39Speaker 3: You know what I've found out just by being here
- 16:42Speaker 3: because you know, my room, my lady Rose, and she'll
- 16:45Speaker 3: mentioned kind of about what I've done to start people
- 16:49Speaker 3: that come into her business and they're I have not
- 16:52Speaker 3: run into one person that didn't take it open minded.
- 16:55Speaker 3: And and a lot of them say, oh yeah, I've
- 16:57Speaker 3: heard about him. I've seen them, my uncle, say one,
- 17:00Speaker 3: my grandfather, somebody, they got something related to it. So
- 17:04Speaker 3: you know, it's more open now with with podcasts like
- 17:06Speaker 3: you've got here and radio shows and groups where people
- 17:10Speaker 3: can talk to each other, it's become a lot more
- 17:13Speaker 3: open minded. More people at least listen and just don't
- 17:16Speaker 3: just don't sound crazy.
- 17:18Speaker 1: So and another person that we haven't mentioned yet that
- 17:20Speaker 1: I think is crucial in the Bigfoot, in this Bigfoot
- 17:23Speaker 1: area for me, I mean one of my favorite like
- 17:27Speaker 1: people in it for me personally is M K. Davis.
- 17:30Speaker 1: I think he is fantastic.
- 17:32Speaker 3: I don't know how anybody in this in this business
- 17:36Speaker 3: were and could even ever say anything about m K.
- 17:39Speaker 3: Davis is awesome, awesome, And you know I got him
- 17:42Speaker 3: up there. You know, years ago when everybody was trying
- 17:45Speaker 3: to figure out if something was real it wasn't real,
- 17:47Speaker 3: we all went to a guy named think Or thunker
- 17:49Speaker 3: and he would punch it in and let him look
- 17:51Speaker 3: at it a week or two later and he would
- 17:54Speaker 3: and he's pretty good and he's still around.
- 17:56Speaker 2: It does a great job. But m K. Davis, he
- 17:58Speaker 2: breaks it down to a whole different mind.
- 18:00Speaker 1: So, yeah, we sat down, he was on the he
- 18:03Speaker 1: was on the podcast twice we did. We did John F.
- 18:06Speaker 1: Kennedy Assassination. We also did the Patterson Gimblin film. And uh,
- 18:10Speaker 1: he brought to my attention the braid on the side
- 18:13Speaker 1: of the face, if that's a mask, if that's a
- 18:16Speaker 1: which clearly it's not. I mean in another piece of
- 18:19Speaker 1: evidence I've just seen looking at it again, was when
- 18:22Speaker 1: when when it looks back to its right because I
- 18:24Speaker 1: had on thumb control Tom control, and uh, he's friends
- 18:28Speaker 1: with Bob Gimblin, and uh, he kind of broke it
- 18:31Speaker 1: down for me. He says, when it's step when he
- 18:33Speaker 1: looked over it was actually when Bob took his pistol
- 18:36Speaker 1: out and said, you know, just for safety, that's when
- 18:38Speaker 1: it actually looked. That blew my mind. But then I
- 18:41Speaker 1: looked at it again. You can see the leg wiggle
- 18:44Speaker 1: like the muscle and the leg move the way it
- 18:46Speaker 1: does and it's so authentic.
- 18:49Speaker 3: I've never had a question about Patterson Gim and the
- 18:52Speaker 3: Patty at all. You know, some people have, and it's
- 18:55Speaker 3: been date bunked and date bonked by so many people.
- 18:58Speaker 3: But you know, I have to say, broke it down
- 19:01Speaker 3: probably better than anybody I've seen.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 19:04Speaker 3: You know, I was actually with him what I was
- 19:07Speaker 3: speaking at Tennessee Wildman Conference when he first came out
- 19:12Speaker 3: with what you were talking about. That was three years
- 19:14Speaker 3: ago in Tennessee when he brought the large portrait all.
- 19:19Speaker 1: The enhanced of number I think it's frame number three
- 19:24Speaker 1: hundred and fifty something like this.
- 19:26Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever it is and braid like you were talking about. Yeah,
- 19:31Speaker 3: that was the first conference that he spoke at that
- 19:34Speaker 3: I happened to be there speaking also, And matter of fact,
- 19:37Speaker 3: he's with me again this year there for the third
- 19:40Speaker 3: year in a row at Tennessee wild Man Conference coming
- 19:43Speaker 3: up in August sixteenth this year in mcmanville, Tennessee. But
- 19:47Speaker 3: the MK brought that and showed me the break. That's
- 19:51Speaker 3: the first time I'd ever heard of that or ever
- 19:53Speaker 3: noticed it. The way he blew it up, you could
- 19:55Speaker 3: easily see it.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Yeah, it blew my mind. Let's get into this recent
- 20:00Speaker 1: open insighting. Would you like maybe walk me into it
- 20:02Speaker 1: and tell me what you were doing and how it
- 20:03Speaker 1: all transpired.
- 20:05Speaker 3: Well, there was a gentleman that I ran into. Actually
- 20:09Speaker 3: he was on a He was actually on a friend
- 20:13Speaker 3: of mine, a friend of mine's podcast, and i'd heard
- 20:18Speaker 3: about it. I didn't even I wasn't even watching it
- 20:21Speaker 3: when this when it happened. When he was on the show.
- 20:23Speaker 3: He was brought on by a friend of mine on
- 20:27Speaker 3: the show because he had heard he had seen a
- 20:30Speaker 3: creature here. And I had three or four people contact
- 20:34Speaker 3: me and messy's me and said, hey, man, you're in Jersey.
- 20:36Speaker 3: You need to reach out to this guy and try
- 20:38Speaker 3: to hook up with him, and cy I'll get together
- 20:41Speaker 3: because he's not real far from you. And I went
- 20:45Speaker 3: back and watched the podcast and immediately called the guy
- 20:51Speaker 3: that had the podcast because I know him partially. I've
- 20:54Speaker 3: been on his show a couple of times. Super great
- 20:56Speaker 3: guy and we'll get good. What is his name, Joshua, Yes, Joshua,
- 21:02Speaker 3: he's Him and Daniel Hamilton are like best buddies and
- 21:06Speaker 3: they have a really good show. It's crypting podcast.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Uh.
- 21:10Speaker 3: But I heard he was on there and Uh. I
- 21:13Speaker 3: reached out to them and I said, hey, man, Joshua,
- 21:15Speaker 3: can you put me up with this guy? And josh says, hey,
- 21:18Speaker 3: no doubt, I will wit for you, man, because I
- 21:21Speaker 3: know you're not, you know, just somebody else the street.
- 21:24Speaker 3: You'll hook up with him. And he reached out to
- 21:26Speaker 3: him gave me his number, and I called the guy
- 21:28Speaker 3: and he goes by s w SD. I'm sorry, and
- 21:33Speaker 3: UH talked to him a few minutes and he said, oh, yeah,
- 21:37Speaker 3: I know who you are, man, I've heard of you.
- 21:38Speaker 2: And he said, uh, what what happened to me was?
- 21:41Speaker 3: Uh? I said, I watched the show and it was
- 21:43Speaker 3: pretty convincing. I could tell him your you know in
- 21:46Speaker 3: your voice that you were scared and what you'd seen
- 21:49Speaker 3: was real. You know you can I can do that
- 21:50Speaker 3: pretty He don't take a whole lot to see. What
- 21:53Speaker 3: if somebody's shooting you straight or not. It doesn't for me.
- 21:56Speaker 3: I can feel it too, and I can tell this
- 21:58Speaker 3: guy was straight up, so you know, I immediately got
- 22:02Speaker 3: turning on the phone and I said, hey, let's hook up.
- 22:05Speaker 2: I'll meet you out at the spot were you seen this,
- 22:09Speaker 2: and we'll.
- 22:09Speaker 3: Start doing some research out there and he says, well,
- 22:12Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I'm kind of scared to go
- 22:14Speaker 3: back out there. I've been out there since I seen
- 22:17Speaker 3: this creature. And he said, I'm been fishing out there
- 22:20Speaker 3: for years in this spot. And I was going through
- 22:23Speaker 3: there at eleven o'clock at night, and as I turned
- 22:26Speaker 3: this band in front of the cemetery, there stood this
- 22:29Speaker 3: huge creature.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Right in the middle of the road.
- 22:32Speaker 3: He said, this thing was as big as a grizzly,
- 22:34Speaker 3: but it had the head of a dog. And I said, yes,
- 22:38Speaker 3: sounds like a dog band creature is what it sounds
- 22:40Speaker 3: like to me. He says, yeah, it pretty much scared me.
- 22:43Speaker 3: I haven't been fishing out there and been fishing at
- 22:45Speaker 3: all since this happened. And it was two or three
- 22:48Speaker 3: months ago when it happened. And I fished out there
- 22:51Speaker 3: every sometimes once a day in the evening. I go
- 22:54Speaker 3: out there at ten or eleven at night and fish.
- 22:56Speaker 3: But I don't feel I haven't been out there since.
- 22:58Speaker 3: And I said, well, if I meet you out there
- 23:00Speaker 3: in the daytime, you'll feel kind of safe. And he said,
- 23:03Speaker 3: I meet you out there in the daytime, and I
- 23:07Speaker 3: gave him. He gave me the exact aggress where it
- 23:10Speaker 3: was at on his GPS, and actually the cemetery location
- 23:15Speaker 3: is what he thinks. First, me and my me and Rosie,
- 23:18Speaker 3: my lady, went out there a couple of days before
- 23:21Speaker 3: I met him and rode the area. She knew the area.
- 23:24Speaker 3: It's probably fifty miles from where I lived. And we
- 23:29Speaker 3: rode the area and I found the cemetery. I knew
- 23:31Speaker 3: when I found the cemetery it had to be the
- 23:33Speaker 3: right spot. And after I got out and walked around
- 23:36Speaker 3: the cemetery, it's a real old, old cemetery.
- 23:38Speaker 1: But it's so strange. Though it's always it seems to
- 23:42Speaker 1: be I'm not always, but very often around the cemetery.
- 23:46Speaker 3: You know, it's very strange. I agree with you, Tom.
- 23:49Speaker 3: You hear more dog man things around cemeteries than anywhere,
- 23:52Speaker 3: and even here a big foot around cemetery, but a
- 23:55Speaker 3: lot more dog man. But I walked around the edge
- 23:58Speaker 3: of this cemetery and he had an iron fence around it,
- 24:01Speaker 3: an old iron fence.
- 24:02Speaker 1: Oh okay.
- 24:04Speaker 3: And when I walked to the left of it, man,
- 24:07Speaker 3: I seen some trees that were just I knew exactly
- 24:12Speaker 3: it was some kind of creature that was in there
- 24:14Speaker 3: and marking those trees, because it was like the bark
- 24:18Speaker 3: was tore off of the trees six or seven foot up,
- 24:21Speaker 3: a whole line of trees.
- 24:23Speaker 1: Wow.
- 24:23Speaker 3: And I got to looking in there, and I walked
- 24:25Speaker 3: in there, and of course my lady was saying, don't
- 24:27Speaker 3: go in there, and I said, it's daytime. I'm fine.
- 24:30Speaker 3: I'm just gonna walk in here a little bit and
- 24:31Speaker 3: look at it. And of course he's in my truck.
- 24:33Speaker 3: The door is locked, and you know, I walk in
- 24:36Speaker 3: there and I can see I couldn't actually see tracks,
- 24:39Speaker 3: but I could see where something had been coming through
- 24:41Speaker 3: there regularly. And it was real muddy, and these marks
- 24:45Speaker 3: were all over these trees, and.
- 24:47Speaker 2: I knew right then.
- 24:48Speaker 3: I said, I'm in the right spot of they or
- 24:51Speaker 3: he's seeing his creature. He's coming through right here.
- 24:54Speaker 2: And uh.
- 24:55Speaker 3: A couple of days later, I called him and we
- 24:57Speaker 3: met up out there. I met my you didn't go
- 25:00Speaker 3: with me. It was me by myself and him and
- 25:03Speaker 3: his wife. She was in the truck with him, and
- 25:08Speaker 3: we rode the whole area. I followed him down to
- 25:10Speaker 3: where he fished, come back, went to the cemetery, showed
- 25:14Speaker 3: in the trees where they had been, you know, torn
- 25:16Speaker 3: up a little bit and and some damage had been done.
- 25:19Speaker 3: He showed me exactly where the creature was standing when
- 25:22Speaker 3: he turned the curve, and uh, I mean it was
- 25:26Speaker 3: it was pretty amazing how much fear this guy still
- 25:28Speaker 3: had an him about this creature. And uh, you know,
- 25:32Speaker 3: it was pretty terrifying when you've never seen it. And
- 25:34Speaker 3: he had seen a big foot quite a few years ago,
- 25:36Speaker 3: but it didn't try to do anything to harm him,
- 25:39Speaker 3: and this didn't either. But it was just the fact
- 25:41Speaker 3: he never realized these things existed. When he here's this
- 25:46Speaker 3: huge creature about the size of the grizzly Barry standing
- 25:49Speaker 3: on two feet with the head of a dog. You know,
- 25:52Speaker 3: it just stared him to death. And he stopped. The
- 25:55Speaker 3: headlights were on it. He rolled the winded down and
- 25:58Speaker 3: I believe he's such a flashlight out and put it
- 26:01Speaker 3: on the creature. And then the creature moved a little
- 26:04Speaker 3: bit and was trying to walk toward him a little bit. Well,
- 26:06Speaker 3: that's frightened him. He rolled the wind up and then
- 26:08Speaker 3: he hears this howl over to the left in the woodline,
- 26:13Speaker 3: and then this creature jumps down on all fours and
- 26:16Speaker 3: takes off running into the woodline, and you know, he's
- 26:21Speaker 3: telling me the story, you know, and I could tell,
- 26:23Speaker 3: you know, he was still shook up, and it had
- 26:25Speaker 3: been two or three months since this has happened. And
- 26:28Speaker 3: I said, well, let's let's meet out here when you
- 26:31Speaker 3: come out here at night with me, and I'll say
- 26:33Speaker 3: it and I'll wait on it and see when you
- 26:35Speaker 3: get a good picture of it.
- 26:37Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I'll do that or not.
- 26:39Speaker 2: I'll be glad to you know, you can.
- 26:42Speaker 3: I don't think he didn't want to. He didn't want
- 26:44Speaker 3: to meet me out there at night anyway. So we
- 26:48Speaker 3: talked about it. So I went out there by myself
- 26:50Speaker 3: and pulled up over to the area there close to
- 26:54Speaker 3: the not far from the cemetery, on a little road,
- 26:57Speaker 3: and there's houses all down through here next to the
- 26:59Speaker 3: cemetery and people, I mean every day people living there.
- 27:05Speaker 3: And it's very unusual when you know out here the
- 27:08Speaker 3: dog creatures and beatfoot right in the city, and they
- 27:11Speaker 3: are occasionally, but very rare when you hear a dog
- 27:14Speaker 3: man just walking around in a public street like this.
- 27:17Speaker 3: Almost in like a little small neighborhood, there was only
- 27:21Speaker 3: maybe keen houses in that area, and they were all
- 27:23Speaker 3: right there together, for this creature had been seen, and
- 27:26Speaker 3: the woodline was behind it. It was thick and remote,
- 27:29Speaker 3: went for I don't know how far back in there.
- 27:31Speaker 3: You could just woods for miles and through swamps and
- 27:35Speaker 3: marshland and that type of stuff around the ocean back
- 27:38Speaker 3: of the bay.
- 27:39Speaker 2: And so and I went went.
- 27:42Speaker 3: Out there that night and set there to almost one
- 27:46Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning. I didn't see anything set there
- 27:51Speaker 3: from about nine to about one one thirty in the morning,
- 27:54Speaker 3: and I finally just left and called him about the
- 27:58Speaker 3: next day and told him they all went out there,
- 27:59Speaker 3: didn't see anything. I didn't hear anything and see anything unusual,
- 28:04Speaker 3: and uh, he said, well, they're probably coming in on
- 28:07Speaker 3: the back side of it there and walking up behind
- 28:10Speaker 3: them behind the cemetery and coming in.
- 28:14Speaker 2: I said, okay, so I need to pull.
- 28:16Speaker 3: Down to the behind it there because there's a gravel
- 28:19Speaker 3: road back there. And he said, I would probably pull
- 28:23Speaker 3: back there and you probably have a better chance to
- 28:25Speaker 3: see it. So I went out there again a couple
- 28:29Speaker 3: of nights later by myself. And you know what kind
- 28:32Speaker 3: of a weird thing I have A I have a a.
- 28:40Speaker 2: This is about two months ago.
- 28:42Speaker 3: Recently yeah, a couple of months ago, and so I
- 28:46Speaker 3: go back out there. But I was getting the fact
- 28:48Speaker 3: I have a lifetime carry permit with my with my
- 28:51Speaker 3: weapon in Tennessee, and you know, I don't want to
- 28:54Speaker 3: do anything a legal in Jersey's pretty serious. I don't
- 28:56Speaker 3: want people carrying weapons up there. I didn't realize that
- 28:59Speaker 3: as serious as it is. But I went out there
- 29:01Speaker 3: without a gun, and I don't know what this creature
- 29:04Speaker 3: how for him it is frona baby. I'm not gonna
- 29:06Speaker 3: take a chance to get put in jail from Cary
- 29:07Speaker 3: of a gun.
- 29:08Speaker 2: In my car and checked on a little bit. They're
- 29:11Speaker 2: pretty seriously about that here. So uh.
- 29:14Speaker 3: Anyway, I went out there, I said to maybe two
- 29:17Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning. I did hear something sounded like
- 29:20Speaker 3: it was in the woods and it sounded like howling.
- 29:22Speaker 3: But I did not see a creature. So I called
- 29:27Speaker 3: him I'm going home. And I call him back and say, man,
- 29:30Speaker 3: I was out there again. I didn't see anything. He said, Okay,
- 29:34Speaker 3: he says, h.
- 29:35Speaker 2: I said, I'm.
- 29:35Speaker 3: Going to Tennessee in a couple of weeks. When I
- 29:38Speaker 3: get back, me and you'll meet and go out there
- 29:41Speaker 3: again and see if we can temper wint where this
- 29:43Speaker 3: thing's coming in. He said, I'll go with you to daytime,
- 29:47Speaker 3: but not in that time. I said, okay, we'll do that.
- 29:49Speaker 3: So I went to Tennessee and come back from Tennessee
- 29:53Speaker 3: last week and let's see, it was uh right. Right
- 29:56Speaker 3: before I got back from Tennessee, I get a call
- 29:59Speaker 3: from him. He goes, you're not gonna believe what happened.
- 30:02Speaker 3: You're not gonna believe what happened. I said, what are
- 30:04Speaker 3: you talking about? SD And he said, well, my wife
- 30:08Speaker 3: wanted to go out there. Me and my wife, she
- 30:11Speaker 3: wanted to go out there, and we took our camera.
- 30:13Speaker 3: We wanted to take some pictures. Say didn't get a
- 30:15Speaker 3: picture in this creature. So we went out there and
- 30:18Speaker 3: we parked on that gravel road I was telling you about.
- 30:20Speaker 3: It's real remote. This gravel road goes way. I don't
- 30:22Speaker 3: know where it goes, but it's just dark. There's no
- 30:25Speaker 3: houses back there. It's just a gravel dirt road that
- 30:29Speaker 3: goes I don't know how far back in there, but
- 30:31Speaker 3: it's just super remote. And they were backed up in there,
- 30:35Speaker 3: parked waiting for this creature to come out and try
- 30:38Speaker 3: to get a picture of it.
- 30:40Speaker 2: He said.
- 30:41Speaker 3: We didn't sit in there for quite a while. And
- 30:43Speaker 3: it was eleven thirty, twelve o'clock at night, and he said,
- 30:46Speaker 3: my wife had to use the restroom. And I said, okay,
- 30:50Speaker 3: go ahead and get out and go kind of behind
- 30:52Speaker 3: the truck there, and he's sitting in the cab and.
- 30:57Speaker 2: He's in the cab.
- 30:58Speaker 3: She goes back towards the back of the truck, between
- 31:00Speaker 3: the bumper and the rear tire, and she's using the restroom,
- 31:05Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, she starts screaming. He jumps
- 31:08Speaker 3: out of the passenger side of the truck, runs down
- 31:11Speaker 3: the side of the truck and looks and this dog
- 31:14Speaker 3: man has got his wife by the arm, dragging her down,
- 31:17Speaker 3: dragging her down the gravel road.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 31:21Speaker 3: He pulls his forty five out of his belt and
- 31:27Speaker 3: fires and hits it in the back. And it didn't
- 31:30Speaker 3: even flinch, he said. And then he fired again, and
- 31:33Speaker 3: he could see it it hit his back. He could
- 31:35Speaker 3: hear it thud, and it did it Flint's just a little.
- 31:39Speaker 3: And then the third shot when he hit it, it
- 31:41Speaker 3: flint's pretty good. And his wife screaming. This thing's got
- 31:45Speaker 3: his wife by the arm dragging her and the fore
- 31:48Speaker 3: shot when he hit it, it hit it right in
- 31:50Speaker 3: the center of the back, right below the neck. And
- 31:54Speaker 3: he said he could He said, when he hit it
- 31:56Speaker 3: with that one, it's screamed like like he said, it
- 31:59Speaker 3: sounded like a train.
- 32:00Speaker 2: It was so loud.
- 32:01Speaker 3: Wow, and screamed so loud and let go of her
- 32:04Speaker 3: and ran off into the woods. And of course he
- 32:08Speaker 3: ran over to her real quick and got her up
- 32:10Speaker 3: and got her back in the truck, and uh, he
- 32:13Speaker 3: took her to the hospital the next day, and because
- 32:16Speaker 3: he thought her arm was broke. It was not broke.
- 32:20Speaker 3: It was severely bruised. But uh, but he took her
- 32:23Speaker 3: to the hospital. And I've talked to him three or
- 32:25Speaker 3: four times since then, and uh, we're actually supposed to
- 32:29Speaker 3: go back out there probably this week, he and I
- 32:34Speaker 3: and uh, but I've talked to him since then. And
- 32:36Speaker 3: his wife is of course, he's got PTSD, so you
- 32:41Speaker 3: don't even go out on her back porch at night
- 32:43Speaker 3: to smoke a cigarette. So she's just terrified. See, I mean,
- 32:47Speaker 3: he's terrified. She's terrified. And you know, I was a
- 32:51Speaker 3: lot of people have even scared him more since I
- 32:55Speaker 3: made that post. Him about what happened. You know, people
- 32:57Speaker 3: telling her what these things can mark you, they can
- 32:59Speaker 3: follow you home, and I believe that is possible.
- 33:03Speaker 1: I know Big Alfred, Alfred Santa Rica told me that.
- 33:07Speaker 1: He said they fought. He found the nest of him
- 33:09Speaker 1: in a swamp and uh, i'd seen him. He left
- 33:12Speaker 1: out and then they were they were he was trying
- 33:13Speaker 1: to take the he was telling us, trying to think
- 33:15Speaker 1: the frame out of his sliding door in the back
- 33:17Speaker 1: of his house. And he's up in New York. He's
- 33:19Speaker 1: not that far from you either.
- 33:20Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I know Alfred.
- 33:22Speaker 1: Great guy, great guy. Yeah, that's uh, that's that's if
- 33:28Speaker 1: it's possible, I'd love to talk to the gentleman. But
- 33:29Speaker 1: maybe you can tell me that after the show. But uh,
- 33:33Speaker 1: in doing this for five years, Daryl, what what are
- 33:35Speaker 1: some I wouldn't say conclusions. What are some of the
- 33:37Speaker 1: concepts that you're coming up with? What these things are? Well,
- 33:41Speaker 1: I personally believe I've seen four of these creatures. The
- 33:44Speaker 1: very first one I seen was.
- 33:48Speaker 3: I believe it was it was either a tenty twenty
- 33:50Speaker 3: or twenty twenty one, was the first one I've ever seen.
- 33:52Speaker 3: I seen it in Caswell, County, Virginia, and it was
- 33:56Speaker 3: very remote. This gentleman came into a store when I
- 33:59Speaker 3: was setting a drinking coffee with some older farmers in
- 34:02Speaker 3: the morning, and he was talking about, you guys know
- 34:04Speaker 3: anything about creatures? And I said what kind of creature?
- 34:07Speaker 3: And he told me. I said, well, I don't know
- 34:09Speaker 3: everything about him, but I know what it could be.
- 34:13Speaker 3: And he said, well, you come out to my place.
- 34:15Speaker 2: And I did.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Long story short, it was three hours away, but I
- 34:19Speaker 3: went out to his aunt's place, great aunt who he
- 34:21Speaker 3: lived with him. His I think it was his son
- 34:25Speaker 3: daughter and his wife lived there with his great aunt.
- 34:27Speaker 3: And the creatures had killed all their goats. And I
- 34:32Speaker 3: went to the goat and the goats. The bodies of
- 34:35Speaker 3: the goats were already gone, he'd already drug them off.
- 34:39Speaker 3: But I can see the tracks. And he asked me,
- 34:42Speaker 3: he said, have you ever seen a track like that?
- 34:44Speaker 3: I said I've seen, yes, I have in the lamb
- 34:46Speaker 3: between the lakes. And he said what is it? And
- 34:49Speaker 3: I said, well, it's what we call a dog man preacher.
- 34:54Speaker 3: And he said, oh, what a dog man preacher. He
- 34:57Speaker 3: didn't know anything about these creatures, and anyway, I don't
- 35:01Speaker 3: know how many goats they had, but it killed them all.
- 35:03Speaker 3: And he told me, he said, will you come out
- 35:07Speaker 3: here and try to figure out where it's coming in
- 35:09Speaker 3: at and help me get rid of it. I said, well,
- 35:12Speaker 3: I don't know that I can get rid of it,
- 35:13Speaker 3: but I come out here and try to help you.
- 35:15Speaker 3: Because he had chilled her, he was afraid to let
- 35:16Speaker 3: his kids up right. And I was out there probably
- 35:20Speaker 3: three weeks. I just about giving up. I mean, I'm
- 35:23Speaker 3: going back every day a long drive and set in
- 35:26Speaker 3: the evening.
- 35:26Speaker 2: I go early in the morning.
- 35:27Speaker 3: I was trying to He put me up on a
- 35:29Speaker 3: ridge to the right of his farm. There was a
- 35:33Speaker 3: road that went up in the field overlooking this huge
- 35:36Speaker 3: field he had that was enclosed in bob wire. It
- 35:40Speaker 3: was probably two hundred yards wide, probably two hundred yards deep,
- 35:44Speaker 3: and that's where his goats had been before.
- 35:46Speaker 2: It had sage dress in it, not completely, but in spots.
- 35:49Speaker 3: And he said, the creature's coming in from there.
- 35:52Speaker 2: We know that.
- 35:54Speaker 3: And I said, okay. So I set up on that
- 35:57Speaker 3: ridge watching it went on.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Like I said, for three weeks.
- 36:01Speaker 3: And I wasn't there every day, but close to it,
- 36:04Speaker 3: and I'd go into evening sometimes and during the morning
- 36:07Speaker 3: other times, and finally I was just about to give up.
- 36:12Speaker 3: It was a Friday evening and right before dark, right
- 36:17Speaker 3: in the corner of that field, far left corner, I've
- 36:21Speaker 3: seen something come down to the come down to the
- 36:24Speaker 3: fence line, and I had binoculars, and of course it
- 36:28Speaker 3: was where I was sitting at at the end of
- 36:31Speaker 3: the right corner of the fence. It ran all the
- 36:34Speaker 3: way to me, and then I'm like fifty foot from it.
- 36:36Speaker 3: I could look right over on it, and it was
- 36:40Speaker 3: this thing came through the fence, jumped over the fence,
- 36:43Speaker 3: and I was trying to see what it was because
- 36:44Speaker 3: the sage grass was in there, and that there was
- 36:47Speaker 3: patches in the field where there wasn't any sun's grass,
- 36:50Speaker 3: and this thing was. This thing was seriously it was
- 36:54Speaker 3: like running like a horse. It was galloping. It wasn't
- 36:57Speaker 3: running like a dog. It was like a gallop. And
- 37:00Speaker 3: I kept looking in my binoculars, thinking, what any world
- 37:04Speaker 3: is that thing? And it it was coming right toward me.
- 37:07Speaker 3: It couldn't see me. I was on this rise overlooking it,
- 37:10Speaker 3: but it was running right toward the end of the field,
- 37:13Speaker 3: and it stopped at the end of the field. I'm
- 37:16Speaker 3: looking right over on it, and when it stopped, it
- 37:19Speaker 3: stood up on two legs. It looked identical to a
- 37:23Speaker 3: black German shepherd, like a massive black German shepherd.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Huge It wasn't. It wasn't eight or nine.
- 37:30Speaker 3: Foot tall, because I measured the branch the next day
- 37:33Speaker 3: when I went back to try to track it, and
- 37:37Speaker 3: it was just a little over six foot from the
- 37:39Speaker 3: branch to where it was standing, So it was about
- 37:42Speaker 3: a little over six foot tall. And but when it
- 37:45Speaker 3: stood up, it was it was built pretty big. And
- 37:48Speaker 3: the head looked identical to a German shepherd. No huge fans,
- 37:53Speaker 3: just a huge head like a German black German shepherd.
- 37:57Speaker 3: But it had hot legs. I couldn't see its feet
- 37:59Speaker 3: or stepped over the fence, and I could say catch
- 38:02Speaker 3: the part of one as it went over. But that
- 38:05Speaker 3: was the first one I ever seeing. It was completely
- 38:07Speaker 3: flesh and blood, no doubt it was.
- 38:09Speaker 1: What that makes you feel like you're seeing something that
- 38:11Speaker 1: you've hear about. You know, you've seen tracks in the LBL,
- 38:13Speaker 1: you've heard reports being up in the area in Tennessee
- 38:15Speaker 1: where you're from. When you see one for the first time,
- 38:17Speaker 1: what is that? What's running through your head.
- 38:21Speaker 2: You know it was.
- 38:22Speaker 3: It was not as dramatic as my first encounter when
- 38:25Speaker 3: I was terrified deer hunting by the bigfoot. You know,
- 38:29Speaker 3: it was more out than anything. I just kept running
- 38:32Speaker 3: through my mind, I've actually seen one of these creatures,
- 38:34Speaker 3: I remember it.
- 38:35Speaker 2: Just kept thinking of that, did I really see this thing?
- 38:38Speaker 1: Right?
- 38:39Speaker 3: And it was just hard to believe that I've witnessed
- 38:42Speaker 3: a creature that lives like for this and uh, but
- 38:45Speaker 3: you know, I knew I seen it. And the next
- 38:47Speaker 3: day I went back and I tracked I want to
- 38:50Speaker 3: cross that fence, and there was a game trail that
- 38:53Speaker 3: went through there freshly years when it went all the
- 38:55Speaker 3: way around under a big bluff and it was a
- 38:58Speaker 3: doug out up under this up bluff and you could
- 39:01Speaker 3: see one of these dog man creatures had been going
- 39:03Speaker 3: up under that. But I seen bones everywhere, were deer
- 39:08Speaker 3: carcass what was left of them. You know, it was
- 39:10Speaker 3: feeding and it was living in there. I don't know
- 39:13Speaker 3: how many of them were there. I only seen to one.
- 39:15Speaker 3: But you know, it's a little larry anybody to being
- 39:18Speaker 3: there by yourself, you know, I did have my gun
- 39:21Speaker 3: with me. Then both of them my shotgun and my
- 39:25Speaker 3: and my revolver, and I've never seen it again. I
- 39:30Speaker 3: got basically actually I went back to do someone investigating,
- 39:32Speaker 3: but I kind of got run off by a Virginia
- 39:36Speaker 3: Wildlife authority gave them you have to go across the
- 39:39Speaker 3: little creek there where I was at, and his driveway
- 39:42Speaker 3: went across the creek and turned on the left and
- 39:44Speaker 3: go to his house. I went to the right to
- 39:46Speaker 3: go up on the heel there overlooking the field, and
- 39:49Speaker 3: I was just had pulled in, and all of a
- 39:53Speaker 3: sudden the game warden come across and asked me what
- 39:57Speaker 3: I was doing, and I said, well, I'm up here
- 39:59Speaker 3: as a scout out some animals or animal for the
- 40:03Speaker 3: gentleman who is here. He asked me for authorization a
- 40:07Speaker 3: paper or a phone filled out with his signature. I
- 40:10Speaker 3: said I don't have one, but he gave me peris
- 40:13Speaker 3: to be here, and he said, well, follow me up
- 40:15Speaker 3: to the house. Let me make sure. And and of
- 40:18Speaker 3: course he told him yeah, I told him he could
- 40:20Speaker 3: be here. And he kept asking a lot of questions
- 40:23Speaker 3: and he knew why I was there, and he actually
- 40:30Speaker 3: told me, he said, if I were you, I would
- 40:34Speaker 3: leave the area. And I wouldn't come back there. We've
- 40:37Speaker 3: had some problems up here with some kind of animal
- 40:40Speaker 3: killing a lot of people's livestock, right, I would, I
- 40:43Speaker 3: would suggest that you leave and not come back up
- 40:47Speaker 3: here and.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Being unaware of probably unaware of who you are and
- 40:51Speaker 1: what you've done in your lifetime up until point. You're like, yeah,
- 40:54Speaker 1: I understand, but I understand. You know, your your your
- 40:57Speaker 1: thinking and trying to be safe and warning me a
- 40:59Speaker 1: lot of that. But this is you know, it's dog
- 41:01Speaker 1: Man's new But at the same you don't want to
- 41:03Speaker 1: tell him that, of course, but you know I've been around,
- 41:06Speaker 1: and then you can't tell him that. So you're just
- 41:08Speaker 1: basically like, Okay, I just you.
- 41:11Speaker 3: Know, I was I was kind of in a I
- 41:14Speaker 3: was on private property. I had two weapons, and I'm
- 41:18Speaker 3: not licensed to carry in Virginia either, so but I
- 41:22Speaker 3: was on private property, which makes the difference. You know,
- 41:24Speaker 3: I'm not riding the highway. And I was a little
- 41:28Speaker 3: worried when I left that he might try to pull
- 41:30Speaker 3: me over with those weapons because he knew I had him.
- 41:32Speaker 2: He's seen him, right. Uh. You know, I was just.
- 41:35Speaker 3: Trying to be as nice as I could because I
- 41:37Speaker 3: didn't have a problem with him, and I didn't want
- 41:39Speaker 3: him to have one with me. But but that first
- 41:41Speaker 3: creature was definitely flesh and blood. It wasn't anything paranormal
- 41:45Speaker 3: or spiritual. It was just, like I said, like maybe
- 41:50Speaker 3: four times the size of a normal German shepherd, a
- 41:53Speaker 3: black one. And that was that was the first one
- 41:57Speaker 3: that I seen. And you know, the second one I seen,
- 42:00Speaker 3: lb Al was not German shepherd looking but similar to
- 42:04Speaker 3: that one, but a different type of head.
- 42:06Speaker 2: Looked more like wolf that one did.
- 42:08Speaker 3: And Martin Rose and I've seen that one where we
- 42:12Speaker 3: were camping and what we call Area twenty three, one
- 42:15Speaker 3: of our hotspots, and uh, you know, we and then
- 42:19Speaker 3: the one, of course was in the documentary was I've
- 42:21Speaker 3: never seen anything like that. I don't know. I have
- 42:24Speaker 3: no idea what to tell you about that when he
- 42:25Speaker 3: went from a mass into a creature and it was
- 42:30Speaker 3: walking and it was a full body creature, but you
- 42:34Speaker 3: could but it was transparent at the same time. So
- 42:36Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what to tell you
- 42:39Speaker 3: about that one. That's that's the one that All Town
- 42:42Speaker 3: Monster has done a documentary, uh to uh two films
- 42:47Speaker 3: Lay between the Lakes with Martin Groves and myself and
- 42:51Speaker 3: Elijah Henderson's in that one, and so is Joe and
- 42:54Speaker 3: Jesse of Helbert hollering. But yeah, I don't know. I've
- 42:58Speaker 3: never seen anything like that before that They exact me
- 43:02Speaker 3: and Martin and I was sick. He was sick, and
- 43:06Speaker 3: this time could have killed us easily. It was in
- 43:08Speaker 3: it was landing in a ravine and I'm five to
- 43:11Speaker 3: seven foot from it with my winded down. I mean,
- 43:14Speaker 3: it didn't, it didn't try to kill us. But uh,
- 43:17Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know.
- 43:18Speaker 1: But it's it's a lot, so it's a lot more,
- 43:23Speaker 1: a lot more questions than his answers at all. Is
- 43:25Speaker 1: sometimes it looks one way, sometimes it acts another way.
- 43:28Speaker 1: But at the same time, do they are there any
- 43:30Speaker 1: resemblances between them they're standing up or you know what?
- 43:34Speaker 1: What can you say? It's like maybe a common thread
- 43:36Speaker 1: between the four sightings that you've had.
- 43:38Speaker 2: Well, the first one looked nothing like the other three.
- 43:42Speaker 3: It looked like, I said, German shepherd, a huge German
- 43:45Speaker 3: shepherd that was very strange to walk on two legs.
- 43:50Speaker 2: Uh.
- 43:51Speaker 3: The second one that I say, the LBM, was more
- 43:54Speaker 3: like a wolf hitted looked more like a wolf.
- 43:57Speaker 2: In the face. Uh.
- 43:59Speaker 3: What, I've seen pictures of wolves, you know, I've never
- 44:01Speaker 3: I've seen some red wolves in the wild, but not
- 44:04Speaker 3: close up. And it was just like a flesh and
- 44:09Speaker 3: blud blood creature. Also, it was also in the LBA
- 44:12Speaker 3: stand to mine a tree. Uh, Martin and I both
- 44:14Speaker 3: seen it and uh. Then the third one being the
- 44:20Speaker 3: one that went from some kind of mist into a creature.
- 44:24Speaker 3: It didn't look nothing like any of the other ones.
- 44:26Speaker 3: They had a huge like maine like a lion around
- 44:29Speaker 3: its neck, real deep eyes that was clear, crystal clear,
- 44:36Speaker 3: kind of a grin like on its face, a smirk.
- 44:41Speaker 3: The TIMPs of its it was solid silver gray. It
- 44:44Speaker 3: went from a blue to a gray, and that kemps
- 44:47Speaker 3: of the hair on all of it were like lint
- 44:49Speaker 3: up with tiny like like the TIMPs of the hair
- 44:51Speaker 3: are lit. Somehow, Wow got up and when it walked
- 44:54Speaker 3: around the back of the truck and down the side
- 44:56Speaker 3: of Martin's car, of course I had to. We had
- 45:00Speaker 3: there's lights right there with the truck lights shining on
- 45:02Speaker 3: this thing, and we had I had a flashlight too.
- 45:05Speaker 3: I wasn't as sick as Martin was, and this thing
- 45:07Speaker 3: to look right back at us as it was walking,
- 45:10Speaker 3: but you could see through it. I can see a
- 45:12Speaker 3: tree limb through this thing as it was walking off,
- 45:16Speaker 3: And I don't know how that's possible, but it's true.
- 45:19Speaker 3: But and then the fourth one was pretty similar to
- 45:22Speaker 3: the second one I seen the lb al it was
- 45:25Speaker 3: gray or the other ones were black, except for the
- 45:29Speaker 3: one that we seen that was kind of clear at
- 45:33Speaker 3: times it was silver, So I don't know. I do
- 45:37Speaker 3: think the ones that I've seen were definitely flesh and blood,
- 45:41Speaker 3: except for the one that come out of the ditch
- 45:44Speaker 3: that was transparent. And I don't know what to tell
- 45:47Speaker 3: you about that. I've never seen anything like that. I
- 45:49Speaker 3: don't know how that's possible for a living, breathing creature
- 45:53Speaker 3: to be walking and you can see through it and
- 45:56Speaker 3: parts of it.
- 45:56Speaker 2: I don't know how that's possible.
- 45:58Speaker 1: But I mean, you also had that that experience with
- 46:01Speaker 1: you and a friend of yours I can't think remember
- 46:02Speaker 1: his name, where you had that orb come across the
- 46:04Speaker 1: field to shine the light on it and it turned
- 46:07Speaker 1: into a possum his statue hiss thattue. I mean, how
- 46:10Speaker 1: do you explain that.
- 46:11Speaker 2: This is ye?
- 46:12Speaker 3: That was that was Billy Howell. That was Bill Howell, right, Yeah,
- 46:15Speaker 3: that was in Cheatham County, Tennessee, and two thousand and uh,
- 46:21Speaker 3: I think that was twenty twenty because that's when the
- 46:24Speaker 3: big Foot attack. Now there's two thousand, I guess it was.
- 46:27Speaker 3: It was in the twenty eighteen or twenty. That's when
- 46:29Speaker 3: the big Foot, the two road was or possibly three,
- 46:33Speaker 3: attacked my farm for two or three months.
- 46:35Speaker 1: Right, you were telling me about that. Yeah, yeah, And
- 46:37Speaker 1: like you've seen this like orb come across and you
- 46:40Speaker 1: shined it and then it just turns into a possum.
- 46:42Speaker 3: It was like it was actually like a light brow.
- 46:46Speaker 3: It was coming across the ground. I watched it for
- 46:48Speaker 3: probably one hundred yards through the woods. It looked like
- 46:51Speaker 3: a light bulb coming across the ground and I just
- 46:54Speaker 3: kept looking at it. Billy's to the left, Billy Howell,
- 46:57Speaker 3: and he's got a big spotlight. He's down the hillside.
- 47:01Speaker 3: So we were sitting in this area because we had
- 47:03Speaker 3: to get to this spot there where we get to
- 47:05Speaker 3: the big throat there and we had any issues with
- 47:08Speaker 3: the Bigfoot. They come get their food there. Its usual
- 47:10Speaker 3: as a juvenile or the female that come and got it.
- 47:13Speaker 2: But it was in the dark.
- 47:14Speaker 3: We couldn't see him extremely good, but we can see
- 47:17Speaker 3: the outline of them and hear them. But you know,
- 47:20Speaker 3: we had the spotlights where we only use that in
- 47:22Speaker 3: case we had to. And this thing come across the ground.
- 47:24Speaker 3: I watched it come all the way through the woods
- 47:26Speaker 3: and it weren't down into a ravine and disappeared. Then
- 47:29Speaker 3: it come out of the ravine. I seen it when
- 47:31Speaker 3: it come out. It was coming right toward me now
- 47:33Speaker 3: behind this huge forking tree. I'm sitting right behind it,
- 47:37Speaker 3: and it just keeps coming right toward me, and I'm
- 47:40Speaker 3: looking like, what in the world is this?
- 47:42Speaker 2: And about that.
- 47:44Speaker 3: Time it's within two or three feet of me, and
- 47:47Speaker 3: I pulled out my forty five and pulled the trigger back.
- 47:50Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was.
- 47:51Speaker 3: And Billy's hits the spotlight to the left at that time,
- 47:55Speaker 3: and when he does, it lights up the whole woods
- 47:58Speaker 3: right there. And this creature went from a ball of
- 48:00Speaker 3: light through apossum and it opened its my mouth and
- 48:04Speaker 3: hissed at me. It turned around and walked back exactly
- 48:07Speaker 3: the way it came in the natural form of apostlem.
- 48:11Speaker 3: And then within forty five minutes we seen these two huge,
- 48:15Speaker 3: massive red orbs whenever a red burgundy and kind of
- 48:19Speaker 3: an orange pink. They were like pulsating, about the size
- 48:23Speaker 3: of beach balls. There was two of them. They came
- 48:26Speaker 3: down and hovered about a foot off the ground from
- 48:28Speaker 3: the same spot that possum came from.
- 48:32Speaker 2: And we watched those.
- 48:33Speaker 3: Things for a long time until we both got kind
- 48:35Speaker 3: of worded out.
- 48:36Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And there's a lot of it's a lot
- 48:39Speaker 1: of unexplainable situations that are out there. I mean, people
- 48:42Speaker 1: are running into like so you're saying, you know, there's
- 48:44Speaker 1: two things. You're running two things that you're like, this
- 48:46Speaker 1: is flesh and blood and then you're running to this
- 48:48Speaker 1: whatever this stuff is. They call it the woo and
- 48:51Speaker 1: a you know, and a negative connotation, but whatever you
- 48:54Speaker 1: want to call it. So you're running into both of those.
- 48:56Speaker 1: So you're just saying, you're you know, you're like, both
- 48:59Speaker 1: possibilities exists, not only exists, I've seen them. And uh,
- 49:04Speaker 1: it's quite fascinating that now that you're up in Jersey,
- 49:06Speaker 1: that now you're you're starting to experience it again.
- 49:09Speaker 3: It's it's it's incredible, Yeah, I mean, it truly is.
- 49:12Speaker 3: You know, I've got you know, Martin wants to get whale.
- 49:14Speaker 3: He's wanting to come up here and check out this
- 49:16Speaker 3: area with me, and uh, you know, of course my
- 49:19Speaker 3: you know, Ryan wants to get down here too. You know,
- 49:22Speaker 3: we're gonna try to do some investigation. I'm doing it
- 49:24Speaker 3: on my own right now, because you know, I'm kind
- 49:27Speaker 3: of funny about a team. If if when I go
- 49:30Speaker 3: out into the woods with somebody and and researchs any
- 49:34Speaker 3: type of creature, you've got to have somebody with you
- 49:36Speaker 3: can count on one hundred percent. And I don't know
- 49:39Speaker 3: anybody here. Well, I mean, as today's a super guy,
- 49:43Speaker 3: I have no problem with him at all. I think
- 49:45Speaker 3: he would bat me if.
- 49:46Speaker 2: He had to.
- 49:47Speaker 3: But he's but he's right now, he's so scared of
- 49:49Speaker 3: these things that I'm you don't need that in the
- 49:52Speaker 3: wards that leads h yeah, accidents exactly. And I'm a
- 49:59Speaker 3: little harvers too. I can't carry my weapon here and
- 50:03Speaker 3: I'm trying to get that handle now. But uh, it's
- 50:07Speaker 3: it's just strange. You know, I've got I've run into
- 50:10Speaker 3: some bigfoot here, and now I've got a dog man
- 50:13Speaker 3: that maybe the really the the craziest dog man story
- 50:19Speaker 3: I've ever been around. You know, when he drags a
- 50:22Speaker 3: man's wife down a gravel road. You know, Uh, it's.
- 50:27Speaker 1: Pretty that's a different ball of wax. Yeah, tell us
- 50:31Speaker 1: a little bit about tell me a little bit more
- 50:32Speaker 1: about your your Facebook group and what you're doing in
- 50:35Speaker 1: the future, where we can where we can find you, buddy,
- 50:37Speaker 1: and you know, where we can keep it and catch up.
- 50:39Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate that.
- 50:40Speaker 3: You know. Uh, first of all, you know Ron Moorehead
- 50:44Speaker 3: who's been my close friend for so many years, and
- 50:47Speaker 3: you know, he and I are starting our own podcast ourselves,
- 50:52Speaker 3: hopefully in about a week and a half, will be on.
- 50:54Speaker 3: It's called two It's called two Real Cryptied Legends, right,
- 51:00Speaker 3: and Ryan named it that I had too real. He
- 51:03Speaker 3: named it Crepted Legends, and uh, that would be coming
- 51:06Speaker 3: on pretty soon. We'll be going live together and he'll
- 51:09Speaker 3: be my host and I'll be we'll be I'll be
- 51:11Speaker 3: the co host, and uh we'll hi every vice ars.
- 51:14Speaker 2: So we're both hosts.
- 51:15Speaker 3: And we're gonna be doing a lot of stuff live,
- 51:18Speaker 3: a lot of stuff in the field or places we go,
- 51:21Speaker 3: and uh, it be a little more different than than
- 51:24Speaker 3: most of the shows that I've seen. And we'll have
- 51:26Speaker 3: some guests, I'm sure here and there, but we're gonna
- 51:29Speaker 3: try to do a lot more live stuff out in
- 51:31Speaker 3: some of my areas and his areas. And I'm gonna
- 51:33Speaker 3: be traveling out to Ryan's area and hopefully going into
- 51:36Speaker 3: some real hot spots that he's had over the years too,
- 51:39Speaker 3: And uh, that's what we plan on doing anyway.
- 51:42Speaker 2: Right now.
- 51:42Speaker 3: We just had a problem with the technical issues. We're
- 51:45Speaker 3: two old guys that aren't tech savvy, so we're trying
- 51:48Speaker 3: to get it put together. And I want to thank
- 51:51Speaker 3: Daniel Hamilton so much for helping us out so much.
- 51:54Speaker 2: He's really helped us out a lot.
- 51:56Speaker 3: And and Roger Williams is offered and I love Roger,
- 52:01Speaker 3: Roger and good people and in any way, but we'll
- 52:06Speaker 3: be starting at anytime now, looking real forward to it,
- 52:09Speaker 3: and it's it's it's just an honor to be run
- 52:11Speaker 3: and be a be a close best friend with him
- 52:15Speaker 3: like I am, and have been on the show with him,
- 52:17Speaker 3: and uh.
- 52:18Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to it, looking forward to buddy.
- 52:22Speaker 2: Yeah. And uh.
- 52:24Speaker 3: Then I also have still writing my book. I still
- 52:27Speaker 3: got a ways to go on it. My first book, and.
- 52:29Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll have a second one or
- 52:31Speaker 2: not as.
- 52:31Speaker 3: Loves just taking it right the first one and pleads, uh,
- 52:35Speaker 3: make sure you keep Martin Groves, my best buddy of
- 52:38Speaker 3: forty five years in your prayers. He's having a really
- 52:40Speaker 3: tough time medical right now. And uh, my bigfoot group
- 52:44Speaker 3: is Bigfoot believers and other creatures. Uh we're we're our
- 52:49Speaker 3: group's a little different than the.
- 52:50Speaker 2: Rest of them.
- 52:51Speaker 3: We don't allow any criticism, ridicule or or bullying you
- 52:55Speaker 3: if you if you want to do that, don't join us. So,
- 52:58Speaker 3: uh we're open minded. I may I believe everything is
- 53:00Speaker 3: supposed to but I don't criticize. So that's what that's
- 53:04Speaker 3: where we stand down. And Uh then I've got I'll
- 53:07Speaker 3: be at the uh my next conference or just got
- 53:10Speaker 3: back from the Nebraska conference. Had a great time there.
- 53:14Speaker 3: I'll be at the Tennessee wild Man Conference on August sixteenth,
- 53:18Speaker 3: and uh, I've had a lot of people reach out
- 53:21Speaker 3: saying they're coming to that. We've got a great, great
- 53:24Speaker 3: bunch of people there this year. Joe and Jesse, close
- 53:28Speaker 3: friends of mine, hel Been Holler, M K. Davis and
- 53:31Speaker 3: be there, Scott Nelson, who've done this year of sounds
- 53:34Speaker 3: from my brother Ron Moorehead Uh Comboa, Baker, Kim Coombeau Baker,
- 53:42Speaker 3: Randy Hutchins, whole bunch of great people, Chester Mower, people
- 53:46Speaker 3: that had a lot of experiences and in the wilderness
- 53:49Speaker 3: like we have.
- 53:50Speaker 1: And some of those link so I can put them
- 53:53Speaker 1: into a description of the way people if they want
- 53:54Speaker 1: to come out and find you, didn't click on it,
- 53:56Speaker 1: and maybe they'll come out and see you. I think
- 53:57Speaker 1: you were recently in another were you uh out there?
- 54:01Speaker 1: And there was another place in Tennessee. They just had
- 54:03Speaker 1: a conference about two months back. I think it was.
- 54:05Speaker 1: You're thinking of the name of it.
- 54:06Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't done as many conferences this year as
- 54:09Speaker 3: I did last year. Last year I think we die
- 54:12Speaker 3: I did fifteen. I believe that this year I've numbered.
- 54:14Speaker 3: And you're talking about the Gatinburg conference. Yes, I've been.
- 54:18Speaker 2: I was supposed to. I'm supposed to be on the
- 54:20Speaker 2: round table too at that at the next.
- 54:22Speaker 3: Conference at that with with my buddy Harley Owens and
- 54:25Speaker 3: Martin Groves.
- 54:26Speaker 1: Charley Owens, that's my buddy too.
- 54:28Speaker 3: That's coming up. Guy's coming up. I think the I
- 54:33Speaker 3: guess I think that's coming up the end of this month. Here,
- 54:36Speaker 3: I think I think I'm correct, right, Okay, anyway, anyway,
- 54:40Speaker 3: I've always enjoy being on your showtime. I'll reach out
- 54:43Speaker 3: today and say you have to come on.
- 54:45Speaker 1: And top Absolutely, I'm still trying to get ahold of Barton.
- 54:48Speaker 1: But he's been going through some things. And of course
- 54:50Speaker 1: you know, our our thoughts and prayers go out to
- 54:51Speaker 1: each and every one of your friends, especially especially Markin
- 54:55Speaker 1: at the moment, I know he's been going through some
- 54:56Speaker 1: things and uh, we were You're in our thoughts, buddy,
- 55:00Speaker 1: and uh, maybe you'll never see this. I've tried to many,
- 55:03Speaker 1: many times reach out to him, but he's a busy,
- 55:05Speaker 1: busy man and now he's having his issues. But we're
- 55:07Speaker 1: pulling for him over here.
- 55:08Speaker 2: I promise you I appreciate it. Man.
- 55:10Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks, thanks for coming on. Man, hold on a second,
- 55:14Speaker 1: or you can send me all those links later or
- 55:16Speaker 1: however you like it. Anyway, buddy, thanks again. Remember guys,
- 55:19Speaker 1: we are the I we are aware.
- 55:21Speaker 4: I love you all and have yourself a wonderful days
- 56:14Speaker 4: of the
- 56:22Speaker 1: Name