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- 0:04Speaker 1: I'm talking to the entertaining gentlemen. We're already the best
- 0:09Speaker 1: friends and they're in the hard Rock Hotel. Or where
- 0:14Speaker 1: are you?
- 0:14Speaker 2: Well, this is our little bedroom. You should see the
- 0:16Speaker 2: big one we've got.
- 0:17Speaker 3: But we are indeed at the hard Rock Hotel in
- 0:21Speaker 3: New York, New York.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, where I am. I'm in New York. We
- 0:27Speaker 1: should have come to you where about. You could have
- 0:29Speaker 1: come to me in the backyard here.
- 0:31Speaker 2: I love it, but you've got better weather where you are, Paul,
- 0:36Speaker 2: You've got much better weather where you are than we
- 0:37Speaker 2: have here. Look at that blue sky behind you.
- 0:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna put some shrimps on the Barbie's. We'll get
- 0:45Speaker 1: some guinness, and.
- 0:48Speaker 2: As long as Barbie doesn't mind, I.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Don't think you. You have to be extremely cautious about
- 0:54Speaker 3: mixing British icons with Australian icons. They don't always go together,
- 1:00Speaker 3: said an Aussie barbecue. Now it's a no no, I'm
- 1:02Speaker 3: afraid I have to. I have to veto it right, Yes, yeah,
- 1:06Speaker 3: you need some Victoria, bit of mate.
- 1:09Speaker 1: So bus a lot of pressure now the pressure is building.
- 1:13Speaker 2: We love the pressure. I think it's a lot halt
- 1:14Speaker 2: away you are with your blue sky. So it's going
- 1:16Speaker 2: to be good.
- 1:17Speaker 1: You know, you guys talking about barbie. I found a
- 1:19Speaker 1: barbie today. Were one of the original, very old one
- 1:23Speaker 1: that I've had that I thought I gave my granddaughter.
- 1:26Speaker 1: But I'm cleaning up the some of the house here
- 1:28Speaker 1: because we've got some people coming like over the weekend
- 1:31Speaker 1: and stuff. In any case, I found it. I'm such
- 1:34Speaker 1: a happy isn't it nice to find something that you've
- 1:37Speaker 1: I haven't cleaned this in about forty years. I just
- 1:39Speaker 1: got remarried and so I'm cleaning some space out so
- 1:43Speaker 1: she's moving in, moved in, and to find this is
- 1:48Speaker 1: an emotional moment for me that go through you know,
- 1:51Speaker 1: happy birthday dad or grandpa and stuff. How about you guys?
- 1:55Speaker 1: Are you sentimental?
- 1:57Speaker 3: And so we are extremely sentimental? Where are you? Where
- 2:00Speaker 3: is your house?
- 2:02Speaker 1: West Eightianus Street next to the Museum of Natural History? Oh?
- 2:05Speaker 1: I was there this morning.
- 2:06Speaker 2: I walked past your house. It's today was actually wonderful
- 2:10Speaker 2: weather for walking. It's been smeltering hots in that. But
- 2:13Speaker 2: you're right, nostalgia what it used to be. So finding
- 2:16Speaker 2: those old barbies, they're probably worth a fair bit of
- 2:18Speaker 2: money now.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh yeah, probably, I know but I want to
- 2:23Speaker 1: make a barbecue for you. Two guys, let's get you
- 2:25Speaker 1: So you're in town, right.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Really, we are in town for the indeterminate number of days,
- 2:31Speaker 3: probably two or three, right is a rough estimate. But
- 2:36Speaker 3: I will tell you, Paul, I am paying for some
- 2:41Speaker 3: of my sins. There's other sins that I haven't yet
- 2:44Speaker 3: paid for, right. But the particular sin that I'm paying
- 2:48Speaker 3: for is for eleven years, I lived on Madison between
- 2:51Speaker 3: thirty fifth and thirty six, right, I lived in something
- 2:56Speaker 3: called the Sliver Building. I don't know if you remember
- 2:59Speaker 3: the movie Sliver, but this was the last of the
- 3:03Speaker 3: Sliver buildings in New York, which have very small, narrow
- 3:08Speaker 3: foot prints and very tall buildings. And so I lived
- 3:13Speaker 3: there and my commute daily from the bedroom to the
- 3:18Speaker 3: office was a spiral staircase. And because I never appreciated
- 3:23Speaker 3: that I now have in the last nine months, it's
- 3:28Speaker 3: either twenty nine or thirty I'm not sure, gone twenty
- 3:31Speaker 3: nine or thirty times from Melbourne, Australia to New York
- 3:35Speaker 3: and back, and usually not directly either way, but directly
- 3:40Speaker 3: is a minimum of fifty hours round trip. So that's
- 3:43Speaker 3: my penance for not appreciating at start a spiral staircase
- 3:48Speaker 3: right on Madison Avenue.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Well, you're hitting your actually you're hitting touch points because
- 3:53Speaker 1: Uncle Monroe created the spiral staircase, the portable ones, to
- 3:59Speaker 1: be frank with you, and you'll see also a irons
- 4:03Speaker 1: set out here in the backyard that he created. And
- 4:07Speaker 1: he thought of these easy ones, like three hundred dollars,
- 4:10Speaker 1: you could get them and you could put them in yourself.
- 4:13Speaker 1: You know, this one you'll probably had an elaborate one.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Was an elaborate one near spiral staircase or was it?
- 4:19Speaker 1: You know?
- 4:19Speaker 3: Uh, it was quite spirally. It was quite spirally. And
- 4:25Speaker 3: my wife, who is a brilliant hartist who I met
- 4:28Speaker 3: in New York, she's a little bit Since you have
- 4:31Speaker 3: just remarried, I feel able to share with you highly
- 4:36Speaker 3: confidential information.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Yeah, no one's no one's listening, So don't.
- 4:39Speaker 3: You works listening. That's good.
- 4:42Speaker 1: I just recorded for us, so we're having a party.
- 4:46Speaker 1: We can play it back and enjoy it.
- 4:48Speaker 3: I think you've got this program. I think you used
- 4:51Speaker 3: this program to seduce your wife, right, so I use
- 4:55Speaker 3: other things. So so any case, my wife happens to
- 5:00Speaker 3: be a little bit my junior. I met her in
- 5:03Speaker 3: New York. And you know, one of the very interesting
- 5:09Speaker 3: prejudices in the world, maybe it's in the Western world,
- 5:13Speaker 3: is that if you have a younger wife, people assume
- 5:16Speaker 3: you've been together for a short time, right, And we've
- 5:19Speaker 3: actually been together for twenty years, right, and decided to
- 5:27Speaker 3: return to Melbourne, Australia to have kids. Some eleven years
- 5:33Speaker 3: ago we returned to have kids. But yes, she actually
- 5:38Speaker 3: had a fascinating trajectory in life of being born in
- 5:42Speaker 3: Uzbekistan to Ukrainian parents who fled there during the Second
- 5:47Speaker 3: World War, formative years in Israel from eleven to seventeen,
- 5:51Speaker 3: and the most years in her life in New York.
- 5:54Speaker 3: She spent thirteen years here, so she actually missus the
- 5:58Speaker 3: city a lot.
- 5:59Speaker 1: So wow, what a story. How about yourself?
- 6:04Speaker 3: About me?
- 6:05Speaker 2: When I always keep my fan we have a deal
- 6:07Speaker 2: that I never speak about my family on air because
- 6:10Speaker 2: they like to maintain their privacy, which is a wonderful.
- 6:12Speaker 2: But what I love, Paul, is when you move to
- 6:14Speaker 2: your left, you develop a halo. Did you know that's
- 6:17Speaker 2: moved to your left a little bit because whatever the
- 6:19Speaker 2: graphics work on that sort of baz bit.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Further there you go. Did you see that?
- 6:23Speaker 2: Yes, you're you're going to actual halo.
- 6:30Speaker 3: It's more than a halo. It's a love, it's a
- 6:33Speaker 3: it's a.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Is that so I love it? It's so good. Well,
- 6:42Speaker 1: I could show it to you, so when you come
- 6:44Speaker 1: to my home, you'll see that I have a big
- 6:46Speaker 1: heart behind us. How did you start?
- 6:49Speaker 2: How do you start your show? Because I've been seeing
- 6:51Speaker 2: some of the previous episodes. How long have you been broadcasting?
- 6:54Speaker 1: How long ab I Burke broadcasting? On my show? I'm
- 6:59Speaker 1: doing a fifty pert years, but my show is twenty
- 7:03Speaker 1: seven years years started before YouTube? Well, I started, yes,
- 7:08Speaker 1: in seventy two, and then seven years there on a family.
- 7:12Speaker 1: They okay, so we stole you.
- 7:14Speaker 3: Was a great year. I graduated from high school. I
- 7:17Speaker 3: was eighteen, and I went exploring the world.
- 7:20Speaker 1: I just graduated from college, and so I got a
- 7:24Speaker 1: job at CBS. And luckily, because I also well, I
- 7:27Speaker 1: graduated from my man, I got a master's reach. So
- 7:29Speaker 1: I thought it was really a smart even though I
- 7:32Speaker 1: studied the Beatles. I got a master's on the Beatles.
- 7:34Speaker 1: But I talked to Jesuit precinto that, and they thought
- 7:39Speaker 1: it was okay, and in any case. But I started
- 7:41Speaker 1: with but I did All in the Family to death
- 7:43Speaker 1: do us Part because CBS had these great all the Families,
- 7:47Speaker 1: Sonny Chair, Cowburnet Classic program and I was assistant manager
- 7:51Speaker 1: of the studios. So my studios, you know, we in
- 7:55Speaker 1: Television City in California the way back when. That was
- 7:59Speaker 1: where I learned the show business, because that in la
- 8:02Speaker 1: is show business. And so I started off really in
- 8:07Speaker 1: a good will. Then I became producer opera.
- 8:10Speaker 2: And what I love when it's in your blood. It's
- 8:12Speaker 2: the great thing about broadcasting now is that anybody.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Can do wherever they are in the world.
- 8:16Speaker 2: And the citizen broadcasters, they're the ones who can tell
- 8:19Speaker 2: the truth and get directly there without having to corrowt
- 8:22Speaker 2: out to their masters, aren't they.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Everybody's a producer if they want to be. It's very simple.
- 8:27Speaker 1: And that little cell phone thing which has the opportunity,
- 8:32Speaker 1: just like television does, to create good or to create bad.
- 8:36Speaker 1: So I've been in the in the mindset my mother
- 8:40Speaker 1: gave me was the library and a Temple of Manuel
- 8:43Speaker 1: the New York Avenue. The Power of Positive Thinking by Revende.
- 8:49Speaker 2: It's so important. This is and actually that's the whole
- 8:51Speaker 2: thing about this is how we met with Phoenix three sixty.
- 8:54Speaker 2: It's all about putting the power back to the artists
- 8:57Speaker 2: because the industry I always say, if it.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Ain't broke, you've got to break it.
- 9:01Speaker 2: And what I love about Phoenix three sixty it is
- 9:03Speaker 2: empowering those creatives in new and wonderful ways, embracing technology
- 9:08Speaker 2: in ways that basically can open all of those new
- 9:10Speaker 2: revenue streams. And it might be good if you like
- 9:13Speaker 2: Paul to tell you a bit about Phoenix three sixty.
- 9:16Speaker 1: I locked into it. I'm a musician and for since
- 9:20Speaker 1: seven years old. I love what you got. I know
- 9:23Speaker 1: I can I know what you got?
- 9:25Speaker 3: Okay, can I sug something?
- 9:27Speaker 1: Now you're going to tell us more about it?
- 9:29Speaker 3: You can, I suggest, because you are a very wise
- 9:34Speaker 3: man who uses zoom. I despise people to use alternatives
- 9:38Speaker 3: to zoom because none of them work as well as zoom. Right,
- 9:42Speaker 3: And I don't know why I have to go through
- 9:44Speaker 3: you know, Google meets and those such things. Right, Sorry, Google,
- 9:48Speaker 3: You're a very nice company, righting.
- 9:51Speaker 1: How you used to have hair, I know.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Given the fact that you have yeah, given the fact,
- 9:59Speaker 3: if you too on sharing, I will actually show yeah.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I lie about as much as I
- 10:06Speaker 1: can do. Thank you.
- 10:08Speaker 3: Yeah, look, well, you know we want to we want to.
- 10:10Speaker 3: We want to expose all of your talents, however meager
- 10:14Speaker 3: they might be. Right after I.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Had a wrestling match with this guy, did you look
- 10:21Speaker 1: at you? Fantastic? Absolutely?
- 10:26Speaker 2: I know that was so sad. What was your what
- 10:28Speaker 2: was your favorite memory of heulp?
- 10:31Speaker 1: This was I say, I thought him and I beat him,
- 10:33Speaker 1: and then I'm shaking his hand because I felt bad,
- 10:38Speaker 1: and then I by ten glassy picture of me autographed. Uh,
- 10:42Speaker 1: that isn't what I told my family. I know, I
- 10:45Speaker 1: know the television conference things.
- 10:48Speaker 3: But he was.
- 10:48Speaker 2: He was one of the great characters, wasn't in wrestling,
- 10:51Speaker 2: And what I loved he was a genuinely nice person,
- 10:53Speaker 2: both on and off screen.
- 10:56Speaker 1: He was in Yiddish, we call him a mench. He
- 10:58Speaker 1: was a beautiful man. He is a positive minded god.
- 11:02Speaker 1: He had all the the accolade accolades of a good
- 11:07Speaker 1: human being.
- 11:08Speaker 2: And I thinks, and what we need now, as I said,
- 11:11Speaker 2: we live in a very diverse age, when there's so many,
- 11:13Speaker 2: so much conflict in the world. We need these positive
- 11:16Speaker 2: role models.
- 11:17Speaker 3: Don't we?
- 11:18Speaker 1: One thousand percent, and well, we're gonna really take a
- 11:22Speaker 1: moment and learn about your Yeah, your your business, your
- 11:28Speaker 1: your app your opportunity. I'll call it for for entertainers
- 11:35Speaker 1: to entertain the world. And that's that's a blessing. And
- 11:40Speaker 1: you're making it simple, you're making it financially rewarding, you're
- 11:46Speaker 1: giving a larger percentage on your side. And uh, let's
- 11:53Speaker 1: let's hear it now. I shared the screen and I
- 11:56Speaker 1: myself at the interview. I'm gonna part one and part two.
- 11:59Speaker 1: If one is the s mosing part we just did, okay,
- 12:02Speaker 1: and now part two let's learn about what your new
- 12:04Speaker 1: technology is and how people can get involved.
- 12:07Speaker 3: Well, Paul, I have to say, blessing is an appropriate
- 12:12Speaker 3: word because we would like to return the blessing that
- 12:16Speaker 3: artists actually give right their fans. And the truth of
- 12:20Speaker 3: the matter is for all of us, whether it is music,
- 12:23Speaker 3: whether it's visual arts, whether it's dancers, actors, write models,
- 12:28Speaker 3: they form a very important part of our enjoyment in life.
- 12:33Speaker 3: And the notion that they should be devalued by these
- 12:37Speaker 3: social media platforms, the point where they can't make a
- 12:40Speaker 3: living unless they have huge audiences is just not right.
- 12:44Speaker 3: I happen to be married to visual artists. As I
- 12:47Speaker 3: was saying, my partner Lanceford, who came busking with a
- 12:51Speaker 3: guitar from London forty years ago, went on to be
- 12:55Speaker 3: founding publisher Maxim magazine, right, made the world's number one
- 13:00Speaker 3: respectable men's magazine. But you know I have been I
- 13:04Speaker 3: don't crame any great artistic talent myself, right, but I
- 13:11Speaker 3: have artists in my life that are that I treasure.
- 13:15Speaker 3: And the truth of the matter is most of us
- 13:18Speaker 3: really really get huge enjoyment from the arts, and the
- 13:23Speaker 3: people that give us that enjoyment deserve to have lives
- 13:27Speaker 3: in which they can at least practice their art full
- 13:30Speaker 3: time and not have to work, you know, to to
- 13:33Speaker 3: shift to McDonald's. It's you know, it's it's just crazy.
- 13:37Speaker 3: And it's particularly crazy because these platforms are enormously wealthy, right,
- 13:42Speaker 3: and it would not harm neither their them nor their
- 13:46Speaker 3: shareholders to do a better job for the artists and
- 13:50Speaker 3: content creators they have. And the digital age was supposed
- 13:54Speaker 3: to be the age right of democratization, where everybody did
- 14:00Speaker 3: better because they were not you know, the normal hierarchical structures.
- 14:05Speaker 3: The truth is, in some ways it's become more hierarchical
- 14:09Speaker 3: than ever before. And I've never said that before.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Can I say eloquently you said that, I don't I
- 14:14Speaker 2: would keep that phrasing.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Yes, I've said, no problem.
- 14:19Speaker 3: You inspired some somehow another Paul, whether it was your
- 14:23Speaker 3: halo right or something else.
- 14:27Speaker 2: It's a move start wait wait someone when I say stop, Paul,
- 14:31Speaker 2: move it moved there ah stop.
- 14:33Speaker 3: There is a rainbow.
- 14:36Speaker 1: It is a rainbow that's a donation to a private
- 14:40Speaker 1: school over here called Calhoun at a bizarre and it's
- 14:45Speaker 1: a one big piece of fabric and it's hard into
- 14:48Speaker 1: hard into heart. Well it's irack around for thirty years.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Well, we love it. It's very good. It's always sunny
- 14:55Speaker 2: where you are and you can bring your own rainbow.
- 14:57Speaker 1: I love it, and we're not a happy thing. Also,
- 15:01Speaker 1: on the trademark for the happy face, I got it
- 15:04Speaker 1: before the emoji, but I know I own the copyright.
- 15:10Speaker 1: I believe somebody is a lawyer on this call and
- 15:13Speaker 1: a barrister. No messing with you, guys. So this is
- 15:21Speaker 1: wonderful ready for you, and I'm rooting for you because
- 15:28Speaker 1: also I'll just say one thing, because when I switched
- 15:31Speaker 1: to this way, back in ninety July fourth, nineteen ninety eight,
- 15:35Speaker 1: when I switched to this guy from Network CBS Channel
- 15:38Speaker 1: thirteen PBS and then I had a multicultural advertiser marketing
- 15:42Speaker 1: company when I switched to this guy, and I said,
- 15:45Speaker 1: now I don't need satellite trucks, and I can go
- 15:48Speaker 1: all over the world and I can make a newspaper,
- 15:51Speaker 1: I can make a magazine. I can do all the
- 15:54Speaker 1: things that this little guy is allowing us to do.
- 15:57Speaker 1: And I remember somebody also saying to me, you don't
- 16:01Speaker 1: need a big audience. I know, you just need you
- 16:04Speaker 1: need a community. And with a good community and some
- 16:09Speaker 1: wise marketing, you can make a living. Okay, billions because
- 16:14Speaker 1: billions are for the billions people. It's an opportunity. And
- 16:18Speaker 1: so we're gonna learn with outer technology. With your technology,
- 16:22Speaker 1: you're making it easier for the people to do it.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Absolutely and technolog you're absolutely right. Now anybody can be
- 16:28Speaker 2: their own journalists. And what happens the first thing you
- 16:30Speaker 2: touch in the morning and the last thing you touch
- 16:32Speaker 2: at night is this. So be careful with your partners.
- 16:35Speaker 2: You work on that sort of basis. But the other
- 16:36Speaker 2: thing I find as well, Pauled, is that the smarter
- 16:39Speaker 2: the phones get, the more dumb the people get. So
- 16:41Speaker 2: it's important that we still have communication. And I think
- 16:44Speaker 2: all of these things. But when you get these sort
- 16:45Speaker 2: of things like emojis that you mentioned, it stops people
- 16:48Speaker 2: being able to communicate in real life, which is a problem,
- 16:50Speaker 2: isn't it.
- 16:51Speaker 1: I personally like you guys also, No, I think are
- 16:55Speaker 1: good Eyeleen.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Oh, she's an angel, Isling.
- 17:00Speaker 1: He's the beauty of all beauties and the kindness. She
- 17:02Speaker 1: told me to marry my wife, did she?
- 17:05Speaker 2: I told you I thought your wife was already married
- 17:07Speaker 2: to you.
- 17:09Speaker 1: No. I just got married in January to a younger woman.
- 17:12Speaker 3: In the bedroom. When she said it, she no.
- 17:15Speaker 1: We were at my concert, my Earthday concert. I guess
- 17:18Speaker 1: it was in Times Square, which is where this opportunity
- 17:22Speaker 1: is now to take this you know, these phones and
- 17:25Speaker 1: go into the real world. We love it and make shows,
- 17:29Speaker 1: you know, we take over Times Square. It's a big
- 17:31Speaker 1: project and a big show. But that's where I met Eileen.
- 17:35Speaker 1: I love to get together with concerts and with people
- 17:38Speaker 1: in the streets. Get out of your house, go and
- 17:41Speaker 1: meet people. All right, let's look about your technology, because
- 17:44Speaker 1: your technology can allow me to go to Central Park
- 17:47Speaker 1: today and then make an album.
- 17:50Speaker 2: No, and it's such a joy on that sort of basi,
- 17:52Speaker 2: And I love what you're doing in Times Square in September,
- 17:55Speaker 2: isn't it. You've got that wonderful.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Back to the International Day of Piece. It's the one
- 17:59Speaker 1: point six bill. People are aware of it, one hundred
- 18:01Speaker 1: and ninety three countries agree to it, and we've been
- 18:04Speaker 1: doing a concert for twenty three years in Central Park
- 18:07Speaker 1: in Times You guys to get involved and love for
- 18:11Speaker 1: you to get that guy out there, have people get
- 18:14Speaker 1: on your and create shows right there in Times Square.
- 18:18Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get to let me see what
- 18:19Speaker 1: you got going.
- 18:20Speaker 3: Okay, you can see you can see an app can
- 18:24Speaker 3: you at the moment? Yes, what you can see, we
- 18:27Speaker 3: can see it.
- 18:27Speaker 1: So does anyone object? But can you see it on screen? Yeah?
- 18:32Speaker 1: So does anyone object? Question mark? That's what it says.
- 18:36Speaker 3: Yes, oh some way I think you're asking. Okay. So
- 18:41Speaker 3: so basically, this is not this similar to a feed
- 18:46Speaker 3: of let's say TikTok.
- 18:48Speaker 4: Right, it's.
- 18:54Speaker 3: It's not this similar, but they are some very stark differences. Right,
- 18:59Speaker 3: So the first thing about a TikTok right to be
- 19:04Speaker 3: blunt about it is. It has arguments with record labels
- 19:07Speaker 3: about three percent of advertising going to label an artist.
- 19:11Speaker 3: We begin with eighty percent, at least seventy percent going
- 19:16Speaker 3: to the artist of the advertising revenue and ten percent
- 19:19Speaker 3: going to the middleman. Secondly, everything but advertising, we give
- 19:23Speaker 3: ninety five percent to the artists. Right, So these are
- 19:27Speaker 3: radically different percentages. But more than that, we want to
- 19:32Speaker 3: make sure the artist has a very good way to monetize.
- 19:36Speaker 3: So TikTok has an issue apart from their legal issues,
- 19:40Speaker 3: that every year their so called engagement goes down. It's
- 19:45Speaker 3: because once you watch a video, you have to wait
- 19:48Speaker 3: for hours to bestow another video. Here, every artist has
- 19:52Speaker 3: this button which says visit app. And without getting too technical,
- 19:56Speaker 3: this visit app button is right. It takes you to
- 20:01Speaker 3: what is known as a web app or shareable app.
- 20:04Speaker 3: The app stores do not lend themselves to sharing, so
- 20:08Speaker 3: if a band or a dancer wants to say, here
- 20:11Speaker 3: is my app, they can't. The best they can do
- 20:13Speaker 3: is say, go to the app storem get my app.
- 20:16Speaker 3: With a web app, you can share it. Now. We
- 20:19Speaker 3: don't expect people to have multiple apps they get from
- 20:22Speaker 3: their favorite artists and app and as soon as they
- 20:24Speaker 3: see the app and say, wow, this is wonderful. In
- 20:27Speaker 3: order to get all the apps of all artists, they
- 20:29Speaker 3: have to actually go to an app store and download
- 20:31Speaker 3: our app. But whoever comes by that route belongs to
- 20:35Speaker 3: that artist, as well as anybody who nominates that artist
- 20:38Speaker 3: belongs to that artist. But whoever comes by the root
- 20:41Speaker 3: of the artist app belongs to them. And they don't
- 20:44Speaker 3: need to put out the next top video next month,
- 20:47Speaker 3: right or do something special. They will get recurring income.
- 20:51Speaker 3: That recurring income we believe to be a minimum and
- 20:55Speaker 3: we've had these figures tested and retested of a dollar
- 20:58Speaker 3: forty four per per month. So if you have ten
- 21:01Speaker 3: thousand fans, you can make fourteen thousand dollars. When we're
- 21:04Speaker 3: probably out.
- 21:05Speaker 1: You could have it. You don't have to have millions
- 21:07Speaker 1: and millions based upon what you're saying. But that is them.
- 21:11Speaker 1: They're the reality. What also is the reality what you
- 21:14Speaker 1: have here And I want to commend you right here,
- 21:17Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt you. You've made it sticky. And I
- 21:21Speaker 1: learned early on, since I'm doing this so long, with
- 21:23Speaker 1: the with the web and the computer and everything and
- 21:28Speaker 1: the websites, stickiness is the key. You want to keep
- 21:32Speaker 1: the people part of what you're doing, and that's what
- 21:35Speaker 1: you got here. It's not a download to go to
- 21:38Speaker 1: the Google Store. It's a whole nother concept. Do I
- 21:40Speaker 1: got this right?
- 21:42Speaker 3: You do have it right? Although overall app will be
- 21:45Speaker 3: in a Google Store and apples mention.
- 21:47Speaker 1: That that's what you said to get everybody, but individually
- 21:51Speaker 1: that you can stick with them.
- 21:53Speaker 3: Yeah. Correct. Now I'll just show you some features of this.
- 21:57Speaker 3: In fact, what I'll begin by showing you is what
- 22:00Speaker 3: a typical artists app. And let us use somebody who
- 22:04Speaker 3: started their career in York and happens to be a
- 22:09Speaker 3: model artist and singer, Jerry Lee. Right, So this is
- 22:14Speaker 3: a typical app. You have a truncated bio and then
- 22:17Speaker 3: you have the full bio. She's got a lot going
- 22:21Speaker 3: on in her career, shares a lot to say. You
- 22:24Speaker 3: can share this with anybody. You can donate to her, right,
- 22:28Speaker 3: and you can message her, add as a friend or
- 22:32Speaker 3: follow her. But then you have all of the links
- 22:34Speaker 3: to her career. So this is recent press and features
- 22:38Speaker 3: her official website, her modeling portfolio, her music on Spotify
- 22:42Speaker 3: and so on, and then you have all of her
- 22:45Speaker 3: social media here and we do three things with social media.
- 22:49Speaker 3: We provide these buttons that you can get to her
- 22:51Speaker 3: social media, and we're not precious even though we are
- 22:54Speaker 3: social media. We want every artist to earn from every
- 22:58Speaker 3: source they currently do. If it turns out, and we
- 23:01Speaker 3: believe strongly it will, that we are producing much more
- 23:04Speaker 3: money from the artist, then they will naturally spend more
- 23:07Speaker 3: time with us. But there's no contract to dictate that.
- 23:11Speaker 3: And indeed, we facilitate them using every type of source
- 23:15Speaker 3: of income earning that they can. So the people can
- 23:19Speaker 3: the fan can press these buttons. Also, the artist is
- 23:23Speaker 3: able to suck the postings from other social media into
- 23:26Speaker 3: our app. And importantly, they only have to post on
- 23:29Speaker 3: our app and it automatically goes out for all social media.
- 23:34Speaker 3: We have an app, sorry I should say a merchandise store,
- 23:40Speaker 3: very easily to configure. So if you want to sell something,
- 23:44Speaker 3: you can sell us right then and there as an artist,
- 23:46Speaker 3: right we have the post as I said, brought in
- 23:49Speaker 3: from other social media. Excuse me, I've never sneezed on
- 23:54Speaker 3: the interview before.
- 23:56Speaker 1: God bless you, but you know what that means. God,
- 23:59Speaker 1: that means what you're saying is true.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Ah, you go and if I and if I sneeze
- 24:04Speaker 3: three times, they'll be even more true, but so so
- 24:09Speaker 3: in any event. And then we have an intersection where
- 24:13Speaker 3: the artists can put their favorite recipes, their remedies, whatever
- 24:16Speaker 3: they like, and favorite music, favorite movies. But these are referrals. Now,
- 24:22Speaker 3: for example, if you take this artist's favorite book, it
- 24:26Speaker 3: happens to take you to Amazon, right, the book comes
- 24:29Speaker 3: up in Amazon. Amazon pays let's say, twelve percent commission,
- 24:33Speaker 3: eleven percent, whatever they pay, and the artist gets ninety
- 24:36Speaker 3: five percent of that. And people love knowing what their
- 24:40Speaker 3: artist's favorite things are, whether they be books or movies
- 24:44Speaker 3: or whatever. And this is yet another way and for
- 24:47Speaker 3: us to earn money. Our view about income is that
- 24:50Speaker 3: everything that's possible for an artist to earn an income
- 24:54Speaker 3: we should include. Right now, there's an amalgamated shop. I'm
- 24:58Speaker 3: about to sneeze twice, I think times.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be.
- 25:05Speaker 3: Never sneeze on interview before this very special. This is
- 25:10Speaker 3: clearly an interview rating system, right, and and we're at
- 25:16Speaker 3: two sneezers, right, that already puts you ahead of most broadcasters.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Yeah, you're one of the only ones ever heard that sneezed.
- 25:26Speaker 1: And because I get about seventy five hundred interviews, I'm.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Going to give you an award. I think it should be.
- 25:33Speaker 2: But Phoenix three to sixty is not to be sneezed.
- 25:36Speaker 2: That and I think that's the message.
- 25:38Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And then we have right, a sort of
- 25:44Speaker 3: backhand which the artists users to do things. It's got
- 25:48Speaker 3: twenty six functions. I will take you through just a couple.
- 25:52Speaker 3: So everything we do we want to keep exceedingly simple.
- 25:56Speaker 3: So live streaming, for example, you have now or you
- 26:00Speaker 3: have a scheduled lives team, you have it paid, or
- 26:02Speaker 3: you have a free If it is paid, and anybody
- 26:06Speaker 3: who goes to watch it automatic thing gets money deducted
- 26:09Speaker 3: from their wallet. Right, it is seamless, right, And the
- 26:12Speaker 3: idea is to make everything very simple. We go to
- 26:15Speaker 3: this thing called a playground. It's very colorful, right, and
- 26:19Speaker 3: has all sorts of things can do. I'm going to
- 26:21Speaker 3: take you through one of the twenty six functions, right,
- 26:25Speaker 3: So it's called the artist's management function. So here as
- 26:28Speaker 3: you can see, they can add songs, they can add products,
- 26:32Speaker 3: they can complete their bio, they can manage their social media.
- 26:36Speaker 3: They can even reward people for using their app. They
- 26:40Speaker 3: can withdraw the money they earn at any time. And
- 26:44Speaker 3: then there's three things wrong with social media. It doesn't pay,
- 26:47Speaker 3: it doesn't allow and artists to actually segment according to area. So,
- 26:54Speaker 3: for example, we at the moment have it that you
- 26:57Speaker 3: can just send a notification via the phone to people
- 27:00Speaker 3: in particular country. But we're making it so that if
- 27:03Speaker 3: you want to do the meatpacking districts on Friday night,
- 27:07Speaker 3: you can just do a circle and it will invite
- 27:09Speaker 3: people within five miles of the meatpacking district, right. And
- 27:13Speaker 3: the third thing about social media app is it's not
- 27:17Speaker 3: easy to communicate with the fans. Here. You can do
- 27:21Speaker 3: a text or you can just send your latest video
- 27:24Speaker 3: and it will go right to the phone of every
- 27:27Speaker 3: one of your fans. We tell the artists their daily, weekly,
- 27:31Speaker 3: monthly revenue, right, We tell them we allow people if
- 27:34Speaker 3: they consent to go onto their mailing list with their email,
- 27:38Speaker 3: how many standalone apps, how many fans, And when you're
- 27:41Speaker 3: constructing this, which can take as law as twenty minutes,
- 27:44Speaker 3: when you're constructed, it automatically and constructs a website for
- 27:48Speaker 3: the artist also, so we are quite obsessed by all
- 27:52Speaker 3: of this. Sorry, I will just get out of this now.
- 27:56Speaker 3: We are quite obsessed by all of this well as
- 28:00Speaker 3: we think that it's really been long overdue that the
- 28:04Speaker 3: artist gets properly dealt with in terms of their control,
- 28:08Speaker 3: in terms of their income, in terms of making their
- 28:11Speaker 3: careers a little easier by giving them tools. Right, and
- 28:15Speaker 3: we intend keep you on going on with it.
- 28:17Speaker 1: You hit it right on the head. You have really,
- 28:20Speaker 1: you know, made some comprehensive opportunity for someone who really
- 28:27Speaker 1: cares about what they're doing in the world of entertainment.
- 28:32Speaker 1: I would think an artist also can use whatever you
- 28:35Speaker 1: got to you know, a portrait arte. Anyway, you have
- 28:38Speaker 1: a very very I don't know if you guys are
- 28:41Speaker 1: the ones behind the conceptualization of this, but somebody knows
- 28:47Speaker 1: their stuff. Somebody knew enough for all the bells and
- 28:52Speaker 1: the whistles that a Sony corporation or a BMG or
- 28:56Speaker 1: a big company and or a creative artists go through
- 29:01Speaker 1: to work with the talent. And you in a certain
- 29:05Speaker 1: degree don't need that at this time for somebody to
- 29:10Speaker 1: get going all right, Maybe later on, when their success
- 29:14Speaker 1: builds and builds and bills, maybe a big company grabs
- 29:17Speaker 1: them or something. You know, and four or five stars
- 29:20Speaker 1: in some of these universal companies anyway, So it's so hard.
- 29:24Speaker 1: This is really really you're doing, say that the Bible.
- 29:28Speaker 2: Sure, but even with the really big stars, affectively what
- 29:32Speaker 2: they're doing, they're going to be earning more money through this.
- 29:34Speaker 2: So what we're doing in Phoenix through sixty is actually
- 29:36Speaker 2: opening revenue streams to people. But all those people who've
- 29:39Speaker 2: already got some of those revenue streams opened, they get
- 29:42Speaker 2: a much larger share. And I think it might be
- 29:45Speaker 2: helpful and add an explace just to put that into context.
- 29:47Speaker 2: You compare income in the traditional way of doing things
- 29:50Speaker 2: as opposed.
- 29:51Speaker 1: To the three to sixty way of doing it. Yeah,
- 29:52Speaker 1: all right, good, okay, all right, that's even a wiser.
- 29:56Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I should just go maybe back
- 29:59Speaker 3: a little bit in history without mentioning names. But in
- 30:03Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, at the Annual Music Conference, Right,
- 30:08Speaker 3: I and my partner Lance we launched something called q Trax,
- 30:12Speaker 3: and we were the first service that was free to
- 30:17Speaker 3: consumers with streaming, with more advertising dollars that would go
- 30:22Speaker 3: into the pockets of artists than they had gotten previously
- 30:25Speaker 3: by downloads. This was the time where people didn't speak
- 30:28Speaker 3: about streaming. On the day or the day before we launched.
- 30:32Speaker 3: A certain man who's no longer with us, who ran
- 30:35Speaker 3: a big computer company and phone company right whose name
- 30:39Speaker 3: will go unmentioned, but he called the record companies and said,
- 30:43Speaker 3: if you do this, I'm shutting down my music service.
- 30:47Speaker 3: And so suddenly we were left high and dry, and
- 30:50Speaker 3: we by the end of that year we had licenses.
- 30:54Speaker 3: We didn't feel as though we were getting the right
- 30:57Speaker 3: sort of support, and my partner Land said, well, you know,
- 31:01Speaker 3: go and think of a better idea. What we were
- 31:04Speaker 3: acutely aware of is that we'd spend thirty million dollars
- 31:09Speaker 3: and not a cent had gone to an artist. And
- 31:12Speaker 3: then as I began to understand what social media was
- 31:18Speaker 3: doing with artists, I decided, really, they need to be
- 31:21Speaker 3: a better way. And the curious thing is I knew
- 31:23Speaker 3: the music industry pretty well, and I knew to what
- 31:26Speaker 3: degree artists could be exploited and were exploited on social
- 31:31Speaker 3: media elsewhere. What I didn't know is that in every
- 31:35Speaker 3: era of art, it exists. So if you are a
- 31:38Speaker 3: visual artist, you might sell a painting once in a while,
- 31:42Speaker 3: and the gallery often gets fifty percent fifty percent is
- 31:45Speaker 3: pretty hefty. Right, If you are a Broadway musical star
- 31:50Speaker 3: and you are one of let's say you know, half
- 31:53Speaker 3: a dozen main roles, you do eight performances a week,
- 31:56Speaker 3: potentially half you know you're one of the main roles.
- 32:00Speaker 3: You take home after tax and after the manager, you
- 32:04Speaker 3: take home two thousand and some dollars per week. And
- 32:07Speaker 3: you don't even know what the tenure is of that
- 32:09Speaker 3: musical right, it could be a month, it could be
- 32:12Speaker 3: six month. You have no idea if you're the actual star.
- 32:15Speaker 3: And a wonderful guy who was mister spider Man on Broadway, right,
- 32:19Speaker 3: who happens to be one of our artists. Right, he
- 32:22Speaker 3: was saying, you take home as the as the main
- 32:25Speaker 3: start three thousand and some dollars a week for eight performances.
- 32:28Speaker 3: It's not what you call big money, right, and so,
- 32:32Speaker 3: and if your model, you don't even own your own photos,
- 32:35Speaker 3: the agency owns the photos. So in all of these areas,
- 32:39Speaker 3: the artist is exploited. And the question is it's not
- 32:42Speaker 3: the same exploiters, So how is it? And the answer
- 32:46Speaker 3: to how it is is because it can be because
- 32:49Speaker 3: artists are by nature focus on their art. They're not
- 32:52Speaker 3: hard headed commercial people often right and they get exploited.
- 32:57Speaker 3: So the digital age can redress that, and we believe
- 33:02Speaker 3: right it should, and we hope to be part of that.
- 33:05Speaker 2: And I think the improbab as a gloss on that
- 33:07Speaker 2: as well. Paul is that it's all about fairness. It's
- 33:10Speaker 2: about fairness to the afternoon. My background is an intellectual
- 33:14Speaker 2: property lawyer, and throughout the whole of my career that's
- 33:17Speaker 2: what we've been looking at, working with companies, finding new markets,
- 33:21Speaker 2: opening new revenue streams, utilizing technologies in a way that
- 33:25Speaker 2: hasn't previously been utilized. So we, for example, did the
- 33:27Speaker 2: very first live streaming for some major football organizations, for
- 33:31Speaker 2: people like Thomas Cook and so on and so forth.
- 33:33Speaker 2: For Formula one. We helped open up new revenue streams
- 33:36Speaker 2: with the very first computer games. And look at that
- 33:39Speaker 2: sort of side, and we're artists that turning around and saying, Okay,
- 33:41Speaker 2: there may be extra revenue streams which haven't been explored.
- 33:45Speaker 2: We're basically doing that. And I was introduced to Alan
- 33:49Speaker 2: by a legend in the music industry, somebody called John Velasco.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Now he discovered or something, Oh you know John or
- 33:57Speaker 2: fantastic or if you know John. You'll know that he
- 33:59Speaker 2: signed Fondi the band. Whatever happened to them?
- 34:02Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Wonder? Oh there you go, Look
- 34:05Speaker 1: at you.
- 34:06Speaker 2: I thought you're going to turn into Superman.
- 34:08Speaker 1: Now no, you've got your halo and everyone. But I
- 34:09Speaker 1: worked with Chris Reeve was my friend. He was a
- 34:12Speaker 1: brilliant any case, and he lived in our neighborhood here.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Can you believe that?
- 34:18Speaker 3: Wow?
- 34:19Speaker 1: I know that good time. But it's all about that.
- 34:21Speaker 2: We always say that it's about it's a people industry,
- 34:24Speaker 2: and so what happens is this whole network between us.
- 34:27Speaker 1: We probably know.
- 34:28Speaker 2: Everybody within the industry, and we can look at different
- 34:31Speaker 2: ways that we can help them. But the fundamental point
- 34:34Speaker 2: about the company, it's founded on respect and about fairness
- 34:37Speaker 2: and fairness to artists, and it's a redistribution of that world,
- 34:40Speaker 2: making extra revenue streams come alive. And that's what we've
- 34:43Speaker 2: been doing on that sort of basis in.
- 34:45Speaker 1: All these years. And I got a lot of years
- 34:47Speaker 1: in with musical people. Okay, I've never heard of music
- 34:51Speaker 1: talent ever say that they were treated fairly. I'd be
- 34:56Speaker 1: perfectly strayed with you if yeah, and especially I mean
- 35:00Speaker 1: maybe I've never you know, I have long conversations with superstars,
- 35:04Speaker 1: but I'll say that everybody else feels, I don't know,
- 35:08Speaker 1: can I say it on my own screwed. So the
- 35:11Speaker 1: point is because they were they weren't treated properly any cases.
- 35:15Speaker 1: They're treated like cattle, and it's not nice because it's
- 35:20Speaker 1: an emotional business to begin with. And so I love
- 35:24Speaker 1: what you got. I know what you got, and what
- 35:26Speaker 1: you got is a simplifified if you you're not going
- 35:30Speaker 1: to maybe even like what I'm gonna say, but you
- 35:32Speaker 1: got the pro The program is called or the app
- 35:37Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call this for the dummy,
- 35:41Speaker 1: for the person who really doesn't know what they should do.
- 35:45Speaker 1: This talented person who's strumming away and pitting the piano
- 35:49Speaker 1: and playing the drums, and they love it. They've told
- 35:52Speaker 1: their parents, I don't care. I don't want to be embarrassed,
- 35:55Speaker 1: So I want to play music. Okay, you're now helping
- 36:00Speaker 1: potentially succeed in it because there's a lot of things
- 36:05Speaker 1: to know, and you have such a comprehensive app that
- 36:09Speaker 1: it's it's a no brainer.
- 36:12Speaker 2: It's also a no brainer as well, Paul is it's
- 36:15Speaker 2: everybody's favorite four letter f word.
- 36:17Speaker 1: It's free so people.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Can sign up to it, they can try it out themselves.
- 36:24Speaker 2: It's free, doesn't cost a single penny to download it.
- 36:28Speaker 1: You're a gift. All you want to do is split
- 36:31Speaker 1: some bucks with them. There you're not charging for something.
- 36:37Speaker 3: Not charging at all. And and it's you know, it's
- 36:41Speaker 3: important we don't charge because we don't want ever to
- 36:45Speaker 3: be a burden right for the artist, right in no
- 36:48Speaker 3: way whatsoever. And you know, I have to say we're
- 36:53Speaker 3: not only altruistic, but our altruism is reasonably pure. I
- 36:57Speaker 3: would say, But obviously we would like to be a
- 37:00Speaker 3: successful business. But the truth is, if you are respectful
- 37:04Speaker 3: to artists and you do give them what they need,
- 37:07Speaker 3: you might actually end up with a very worthwhile business.
- 37:14Speaker 5: What I know, all the hamster wheels are now running
- 37:18Speaker 5: in full motions.
- 37:26Speaker 1: You're kind of a while for the sounds a little
- 37:29Speaker 1: bit off right now, but it's still good material. I
- 37:34Speaker 1: had to fill because I wasn't sure, you know, I
- 37:37Speaker 1: don't know. I figured something technical went down, and and
- 37:42Speaker 1: during that time I kept talking because I was hoping
- 37:44Speaker 1: you just would jump back on.
- 37:45Speaker 4: But what I what I love about it for your
- 37:48Speaker 4: subset throw basically what we've got off. This is what
- 37:57Speaker 4: your real Mexican.
- 38:00Speaker 5: I'll let you indo a secrets obviously probably not to
- 38:02Speaker 5: tell anybody. Adam's laptop ran out of battery. They ran
- 38:05Speaker 5: out of power here in New York.
- 38:07Speaker 4: E said, as a result of a terrible leather and
- 38:10Speaker 4: that's what happened. So pour all down suffer as a result.
- 38:13Speaker 5: But the great thing is Phoenix three seats from kept
- 38:15Speaker 5: on billions, And I think, what's going to be helpful.
- 38:17Speaker 5: We're talking about your brilliant event in September. We would
- 38:21Speaker 5: love people with our confidence. So I the hounds go
- 38:24Speaker 5: to the actual now Finige three sixty animal gid in
- 38:28Speaker 5: the details. Everybody's been downloaded for free, and we needs
- 38:32Speaker 5: any help. Set can do that as well. But it
- 38:34Speaker 5: is so intuitive that every single one of your brilliant,
- 38:38Speaker 5: brilliant what is with viewers around the world will be
- 38:41Speaker 5: able to benefit.
- 38:41Speaker 1: From it one and fifty percent, no doubt about it,
- 38:45Speaker 1: and it'll make their life happier and many and many regards.
- 38:50Speaker 1: So thank you. I did as I say, stretched there
- 38:55Speaker 1: we talked ilean cord like I recorded that it was.
- 38:58Speaker 1: It was you're going to hear it, uh You two
- 39:01Speaker 1: guys are wins, a big win and you're going to
- 39:03Speaker 1: make a lot of people happy and and I'm inviting
- 39:07Speaker 1: you over my home.
- 39:08Speaker 3: We want we wanted to make happier, wealthier and healthier.
- 39:13Speaker 5: And what I should also say po is that I
- 39:16Speaker 5: had the joy of broadcast and the more platforms than
- 39:19Speaker 5: padding and a lit daily show show.
- 39:22Speaker 4: People can log in. It is the free as well.
- 39:25Speaker 4: You can go to the YouTube and have a look
- 39:27Speaker 4: the Andrew.
- 39:28Speaker 1: On Octagu's TV.
- 39:30Speaker 5: We have brilliant guests from around the world, from the
- 39:32Speaker 5: world of politics, from music, from history and other artists
- 39:37Speaker 5: and so on and so forth, and we would love
- 39:38Speaker 5: to come along subscribe for that now. That is also
- 39:41Speaker 5: three everybody's favorite world and you can follow me and
- 39:45Speaker 5: Adults TV and also follow them mounte here at Kinston.
- 39:50Speaker 4: We would love to have every single person on board.
- 39:53Speaker 1: Wow, we spell there for us, spell there where we
- 39:56Speaker 1: should go?
- 39:57Speaker 4: Yeah, go for it, Alan tell every how the reachers.
- 40:00Speaker 3: Yes, if anybody wants to go to the Apple app
- 40:04Speaker 3: Store or the Google Play Store and they just need
- 40:07Speaker 3: to look for Phoenix D sixty. If there's any impostors,
- 40:11Speaker 3: they will not have a pinkish f logo but if
- 40:17Speaker 3: you see the pinkish f logo, you know it is
- 40:19Speaker 3: not an impostor and violet pinkish color. And please download
- 40:26Speaker 3: the app and enjoy it and it will get better
- 40:29Speaker 3: and better. And we are thrilled to beat on your
- 40:32Speaker 3: show and thrills to be involved with your Verans initiatives.
- 40:35Speaker 3: Then thank you, thank you.
- 40:37Speaker 5: I'd tell you before you go turn to the last
- 40:41Speaker 5: I want.
- 40:41Speaker 1: To say, how do we I love it Alan? How
- 40:46Speaker 1: do we spell phoenix? I can hear you better than
- 40:48Speaker 1: I can hear F.
- 40:50Speaker 3: Fi n i X phoenix f e n i x
- 40:54Speaker 3: three six zero. Just the number three, number six, the
- 40:58Speaker 3: number zero f nix three six zero. And if they
- 41:02Speaker 3: want to go to Phoenix three six zero dot com
- 41:06Speaker 3: the website, they'll better go from there to the app
- 41:08Speaker 3: store also, and thank you very much been a very
- 41:12Speaker 3: gracious post.
- 41:13Speaker 1: Why and you called the phoenix three sixty? Uh? You
- 41:17Speaker 1: know a lot of people just used to say one eighty.
- 41:20Speaker 1: You know, we're one eighty your three. You doubled the whammie.
- 41:23Speaker 1: And the phoenix is phoenix. The phoenix is a beautiful
- 41:27Speaker 1: thing in this world.
- 41:28Speaker 3: It is it happens to be a mythology that exists
- 41:32Speaker 3: in Hindu tradition, Chinese tradition, and Western tradition. Right, so
- 41:38Speaker 3: it is actually universal concept of phoenix. And indeed we
- 41:43Speaker 3: are rising, and with your help we've brithen a little
- 41:47Speaker 3: bit more. And thank you very much.
- 41:50Speaker 1: We're all in it together. I love you, guys.
- 41:52Speaker 3: Thanks, thank you, love you.
- 41:54Speaker 1: Enjoying and coming over to my house. We're gonna have
- 41:57Speaker 1: a have a have a beach.
- 42:00Speaker 3: You can come over. It to mind, it's a mere
- 42:02Speaker 3: twenty five hours on a plane. I'm gonna be intimidated
- 42:05Speaker 3: coming with me.
- 42:06Speaker 1: I'm not intimidated. I'm going to walk to Kennedy Airport now,
- 42:10Speaker 1: all right, I'll see your later.
- 42:11Speaker 3: I see you, see you break there