Latest / The CFL Outsiders / “This is the Chaos I First Fell In Love with.”. The CFL Outsiders S03 E16
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- 0:37Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
- 0:42I remain as always, you're 100% impartial,
- 0:45completely unbiased, and happy not to be in the doghouse host,
- 0:49old man, shouting at clouds. Joining me this week,
- 0:55it's just the two of us, the dynamic duo back.
- 0:57Hey MJ, how's things?
- 0:59Yeah, you know, I ~ better sportsing weekends,
- 1:03but you know, here having fun.
- 1:05It's all good.
- 1:06Good stuff, yes.
- 1:07I don't know if I've mentioned it here before,
- 1:09but my the love of my life, my wonderful partner,
- 1:13the goddess, is a Penticton girl,
- 1:15born and raised here in the Okanagan.
- 1:18So of course she's a BC fan. And Sunday afternoon before the game started,
- 1:24I casually mentioned this has been a weird weekend,
- 1:27you know. Maybe it's the one o
- 1:29That the Red Blacks get their first win against the Lions.
- 1:32And when they were up 14 to 3,
- 1:35the Red Blacks were, she was giving me the stink eye and told me
- 1:40in no uncertain terms, BC lost,
- 1:42it was on my head. So luckily
- 1:45Absolutely. Absolutely.
- 1:48the BC came back, pulled it out,
- 1:50and there's harmony in old man's household again.
- 1:53were jinxing it.
- 1:55That's what she said. You put it out there.
- 1:57Anyway, that was and it was it was a weird weekend of football.
- 2:01It really was. But ~ I thought I'd we'll we don't have a lot of news,
- 2:06but a couple of things that I'd cover.
- 2:08First of all, I'm just gonna remind people.
- 2:10Well, I'm gonna remind people,
- 2:11please, if you're enjoying this,
- 2:13subscribe. Drop us a like. We're we're seeing our numbers increasing almost weekly
- 2:19and that feels good. So help us out here.
- 2:22But I also wanted to mention, even though GT unfortunately has had to step back from
- 2:27the show for a while here now,
- 2:29he is still running his CFL Fans Fight Cancer promotion he's taken four
- 2:34of the jerseys from his own personal collection and he's selling them this year
- 2:39the proceeds going to CFL Fans Fight Cancer.
- 2:41And the concept he came up with,
- 2:43regular listeners will know about this,
- 2:45is that the team that the jerseys from
- 2:49Since he's a Calgary fan, when they play Calgary,
- 2:52the total points in those games is the cost of the jersey.
- 2:55And the first one that we know for sure is a Kerry Joseph jersey from Toronto.
- 2:59It is still available. The two total point in the two games between Calgary
- 3:04and Saskatchewan was $157. So that's what the cost on that one will be.
- 3:09Now, maybe it's not something that you want,
- 3:13but if you've got a CFL fan.
- 3:16a Toronto fan, a especially a Kerry Joseph fan in your household in your gift list.
- 3:21I'll tell you one of the things I did last year was I bought part
- 3:25of my Christmas presents for everybody was merchandise from CFL fans fight cancer.
- 3:30Their t shirts, their hoodies,
- 3:32stuff like that. And besides it being a nice gift with a great logo,
- 3:35it had the nice story to go with the gift giving.
- 3:38So you've kind of got an opportunity for that with these ones here too.
- 3:42You can tell the people that you've got it for
- 3:44A, you've got a jersey special that you know them and that they'll enjoy,
- 3:47and B, they're supporting a great charity So think about that.
- 3:51That jersey is still available.
- 3:53Just drop us a comment here either in the comments or on any of
- 3:58our social media stuff. Let us know you're interested.
- 4:01We'll put you in touch with GT and he'll do the deal.
- 4:04And still to come later in the season will be a Winnipeg Blue Bombers
- 4:09one that has no name on it. And so that he's taking the two.
- 4:12higher scoring of the three games.
- 4:14He's not charging for all three games.
- 4:16He's got a Saskatchewan Michael Bishop jersey that will be coming up after
- 4:21the last Saskatchewan Calgary game.
- 4:24And a BC Lions G Roy Simon jersey that will be after the last BC game.
- 4:29So keep those in mind and help out the ~ well not us,
- 4:34help out the CFL fans fight cancer.
- 4:36And help out a good charity and get yourself some good gifts.
- 4:40and again, if it's not for you,
- 4:42pass it around to friends. We'd love to see us make some money for
- 4:45a good charity here. wanted to get that plug-in.
- 4:48And then we'll move on to the news.
- 4:50And there's some interesting news In Montreal.
- 4:53They lost, but apparently a lot a loss was still enough to get Mr.
- 4:58Machosha and Mr. Maas extended.
- 5:01Machoza Machocha couldn't have trouble struggling with the name.
- 5:05Extended to twenty thirty one and Mass to twenty thirty.
- 5:08What do you think, MJ? Is that well rewarded or are they being a little
- 5:13too future driven?
- 5:16Well, it's both and, right? This is a very double-sided coin.
- 5:20Either you are building a dynasty or you're carrying a coach's salary that
- 5:25you don't want to be carrying.
- 5:26But based on how things are going out there in Montreal,
- 5:29I would say this is building a dynasty a little bit more on that side.
- 5:33So good for them. It's stability for
- 5:33Right.
- 5:35that team. Great, smooth sailing.
- 5:37Looks things are looking bright in Montreal.
- 5:40I have to agree. Machocha came in post COVID and ~ relieved Kahari Jones
- 5:46of his coaching duties and did half a year himself,
- 5:48but brought Moss in and they've been basically trending uphill
- 5:52or maybe not Yes.
- 5:52They're like a dynamic duo. Like they're Yeah.
- 5:55Maybe not trend just like us. A great team together.
- 5:59Yes. Maybe not trending upward the whole way.
- 6:02They won their Grey Cup in twenty three,
- 6:04but they've done well since then and
- 6:06They were in back in
- 6:07Yeah.
- 6:07the cup last year and it looks like they've got a good shot at this year.
- 6:10So yeah, definitely locking that in.
- 6:13But on the other hand, if twenty twenty seven something goes wrong,
- 6:18that's a a lot of salary cap to have to eat and not not be able
- 6:24to make any changes. So good luck to them.
- 6:26'Cause feel like
- 6:26we just talked about their extensions.
- 6:29Like I feel
- 6:29Yeah.
- 6:29like they were just extended and now they're doing it again,
- 6:32but
- 6:32Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
- 6:33If you've
- 6:34got them locked into like twenty-eight,
- 6:35what's the urgency here? But well,
- 6:37that's up to them, not up to us.
- 6:40I am a little bit jealous, not not gonna lie.
- 6:44Yeah, I can see that. Nice to be in that position.
- 6:47You also were mentioning there's some new NFL player safety rules that
- 6:53had somehow slipped under my radar.
- 6:55So fill us all in. What are they doing?
- 6:57Alright, so this is actually just a fun,
- 6:59like interesting little continuation from our discussion last week about player
- 7:03safety. the NFL is taking a huge step in player safety.
- 7:07They have five new rules that are gonna be like basically subject to what
- 7:12you would classify in soccer as like yellow cards.
- 7:14so then there's new rules for hip drop tackles,
- 7:17which is ~ if you don't know what a hip drop tackle is,
- 7:20it is illegal in the NFL, it is legal in the CFL.
- 7:23And I believe that's what took.
- 7:26Bow Levi Mitchell out this year was a hip drop tackle.
- 7:28It's when their legs and knees get stuck under,
- 7:31like they twist and they they and then there's lots of wrecked knees
- 7:35and broken ankles from tackles like that.
- 7:37So though that's hip drop tackles,
- 7:39horse collar tackles, watch out Nathan Rourke launching hits on defenseless players,
- 7:45and blind side blocks. These are their five that they have specifically said that
- 7:50are going to be applied to these new rules.
- 7:52Your first
- 7:53First
- 7:53offense is a fine. If you end the year with only one of these offenses,
- 7:59you get 50% of your fine money back at the end of the season,
- 8:02and you have a clean slate going forward next year,
- 8:04so your card doesn't carry over.
- 8:07Your second offense, you will have a strike carrying over to next year's season,
- 8:12so you'll already start one strike in.
- 8:14Your third offense, automatic one-game suspension.
- 8:18Fourth and up, one game suspension for each infraction.
- 8:23And they carry over to the next season.
- 8:25So yeah, if you have if you have ~ so after a suspension,
- 8:29a pair a player carries two strikes into the next season.
- 8:31So if you've horse collared twice,
- 8:33three times, three times in one year,
- 8:35you have two strikes going into you next season.
- 8:37So if you do one more horse collar that next season,
- 8:40you are suspended a game. And then carry it over again.
- 8:43coaches will now be required to join players in meetings for suspensions because
- 8:48and clubs with excessive violence.
- 8:50Will now face increased financial penalties.
- 8:53They said that player safety is a shared responsibility.
- 8:57So now coaches and teams will also be like,
- 9:01so yeah, your coach has to attend the meeting with you where they
- 9:03go through your video and ask you what you were you thinking and why were
- 9:07you doing that. So the this is big,
- 9:09right? Like people are gonna start
- 9:10Mm, yes, it is.
- 9:11getting suspended and because they're like,
- 9:13we've had enough.
- 9:14Again, I'd like we talked about last week,
- 9:16you you come to see people play,
- 9:17you're not coming to see people laying on the ground.
- 9:18Injured. So Yeah. Well
- 9:19Yeah, I agree. Right.
- 9:22it's like, whoa, CFL, look at this.
- 9:24Like ~
- 9:25Yes, NFL ca. Maybe we'll
- 9:27follow their lead. I do think we've got to get better.
- 9:30We talked about this last week with stuff like the hits on the quarterbacks that
- 9:34the quarterback slid late and stuff,
- 9:35and yet somehow, as I've said before,
- 9:37the people who can't control their bodies enough to not hit
- 9:41the quarterback still manage to hit his head with some part of their body every
- 9:45time. So those sorts of things I think they do have to get out of it.
- 9:48And I like the idea of the suspension.
- 9:50I've said before, if it's a clean hit
- 9:53And somebody gets hurt, okay, that's fine.
- 9:55But if you're doing something that's an obvious rule break,
- 9:58an obvious infraction against the rules,
- 10:01and you injure a player, the length of time they're out should be the length
- 10:05of your suspension. I know that sounds harsh but I think that that's a a a
- 10:10way to to make it fair. Not if you know,
- 10:12if you're just playing, but when it's obvious.
- 10:15The hip drops, I gotta do some research on that.
- 10:17I don't really understand what a hip drop tackle is.
- 10:21And the only thing I will say on it is as long as it's something that
- 10:24a defender has to make an intentional move to cause that kind of a tackle,
- 10:30then I'm all for banning it and getting it out of there.
- 10:33It is. It is.
- 10:34But if it's just a case
- 10:36of if you tackle someone and their legs get tangled up underneath them like that,
- 10:40NFL did actually a really
- 10:40I don't know enough about it to speak.
- 10:42the NFL did a video explaining what a hip drop tackle is,
- 10:45so I can send it to you so you can watch it,
- 10:47but yeah.
- 10:48Yeah, please do and
- 10:49~ I'll put the link on on the show notes too.
- 10:51So everyone can see what we're talking about.
- 10:52But yeah, they showed a bunch of guys getting
- 10:53injured in exactly what was happening.
- 10:55And I was like, yeah, we and the CFL allows them.
- 10:59we don't want anybody injured
- 11:00a hundred percent. I just thought it was really ~ that the the your strikes carry
- 11:05over to the next season. So now you
- 11:07Yeah.
- 11:07gotta really watch yourself and your your teammates aren't gonna be putting
- 11:11up with much.
- 11:13No. That's
- 11:14and that's a good way to get it out of there.
- 11:16When it's hurting the team, they'll make it stop.
- 11:18Yeah. Like
- 11:20and like does your coach want to spend their time going
- 11:22to your disciplinary meetings?
- 11:24No. Does your
- 11:24No.
- 11:25club want to keep getting fined for your bad behavior on the field?
- 11:29No. So yeah. Big big big deal.
- 11:32Yeah. And yeah.
- 11:35And the other thing I will say on it is I just want them my little puppy came along
- 11:40here, so I'm suddenly having to give her some lubin too,
- 11:42'cause she's alone with me tonight.
- 11:45I will also say they've gotta get consistent in how they call these things.
- 11:48I didn't think I thought this was another bad weekend for officiating
- 11:52all over the place with calls that didn't make a lot of sense and
- 11:55the control center getting sticking their nose in where it wasn't needed.
- 11:58And I'm not gonna rant on that,
- 12:00but it just for instance, there was I believe I think it was the ~
- 12:06not this last week but the week before in the Hamilton game,
- 12:09that Stubblefield got called on horse collar tackles twice when his hand went
- 12:14up around the back of the jersey.
- 12:16But he didn't pull back. He didn't make any other than landing
- 12:23the hand there and then bringing it around,
- 12:25he got called for the horse collar.
- 12:26So okay, so if a horse collar is anything up around the nameplate,
- 12:30then that's fine. Call that. I don't have a problem with it.
- 12:34But again, this last weekend there were at least two calls that looked
- 12:40to me like they were fairly obvious grabs of the nameplate and tugging back
- 12:44on the jersey and didn't get called.
- 12:46And it was only the TSN guys,
- 12:49but they were justifying it, saying,
- 12:50Well, it didn't actually grab the shoulder pads,
- 12:52it was just the jersey. So just make a rule and stick to it.
- 12:56That's what I say. Sorry, am I being too grumpy?
- 13:00All right. moving along. Being as it's now well the the CFL
- 13:06I believe the CFL US expansion folded in ninety six,
- 13:09so that's been thirty years, so there's a lot of stories coming out,
- 13:12and I ~ for whatever it's worth,
- 13:14just a quick one. Found out we all know about the Atlantic schooners
- 13:18I'm told since nineteen eighty two that team name has been there trying
- 13:22to get into the CFL. So they're the granddaddies of it all.
- 13:26But ~ also in the last couple of weeks I discovered that when the
- 13:31US CFL expansion was going on,
- 13:33there was a proposal for a Miami team,
- 13:36the Miami Manatees. Who had a a logo and colors and uniforms made up and everything,
- 13:43and they were first going to put a new team in and then they talked about well they
- 13:48were gonna move the Las Vegas posse out to Miami to be the Miami manatees
- 13:52and that all fell through.
- 13:55And I thought that was interesting new news.
- 13:58I also found out in a different universe,
- 14:02a different timeline, we could have had the Tweed Muskies in the CFL.
- 14:06Have you ever heard of the Tweed Muskies,
- 14:08MJ?
- 14:08No
- 14:09Yeah. This was brand new to me too.
- 14:11This was also in 1996. Tweed,
- 14:14Ontario. A small town somewhere down in southern Ontario.
- 14:19There was a
- 14:20Russell Moon, who was an Atlanta based lawyer who apparently they said
- 14:23had ties to Tweed, put in a proposal with a logo.
- 14:27They had a logo. They they were gonna be maroon and silver in their colors.
- 14:31They their proposal was they were going to put a the Tweed Muskies in the CFL.
- 14:36They had an abandoned cornfield that they were going to set up temporary stands
- 14:42in and start running a CFL team.
- 14:45Strangely enough yeah.
- 14:48Strangely enough it never went anywhere,
- 14:50but hey, that's another one for the CFL Chaos books.
- 14:55~ I'm still waiting for the Balmy Beach Beachers to become a C F L team.
- 14:58Yes. Yeah.
- 15:00The the Balmy Beach Beachers versus the Tweed Muskies in the twenty fifty eight Grey
- 15:05Cup. Yes. Yeah.
- 15:05Perfect. Perfect.
- 15:08All right. And where else did we have to go here?
- 15:10~ you had a little bit about social media backfiring on the Lions this week.
- 15:16Some people
- 15:18Alright, so ~ this year has been some elite troll leveling by different social media
- 15:23teams. For example, the Alouettes,
- 15:26when they beat the TI Cats, put out a devastating,
- 15:30devastating video about how the Ty Cats haven't won the Grey Cup in how many years.
- 15:35It was like all the it was a whole like French film cinematic.
- 15:38It was it's just people have been it's been devastating and rightly deserved
- 15:44and completely fair. so
- 15:46As teams have been going along this year,
- 15:48like they've everyone's been like putting out really fun memes
- 15:52and being really jokey and they're actually getting quite a lot of traction.
- 15:55So the the BC Lions,
- 15:58I'm gonna read it out for you because you tell me if this is over the top.
- 16:02They ~ they put out a statement after the win.
- 16:05They're like, the BC Lions have decided to respectfully refrain from posting
- 16:09win memes tonight out of an abundance of caution for the well-being
- 16:13of the Ottawa Red Blacks and their fans.
- 16:15Please note.
- 16:16The BC Lions are excited about their win,
- 16:18but extend the deepest of sympathy for all those who experienced another loss
- 16:23tonight. The road team, please enjoy yet another lemon.
- 16:26Thank you. And
- 16:28Mm-hmm.
- 16:29it was just like
- 16:31No memes, no videos, that it was just a statement.
- 16:33Yeah.
- 16:34and so if you don't know who the road team is,
- 16:35this is a guy who is eating a lemon every day until every
- 16:39Yeah.
- 16:40team wins. CFL team wins. He's like on day 89 of eating lemons because
- 16:43Yeah.
- 16:44the red blacks can't win. Anyway,
- 16:46some ~ some some people were upset about this.
- 16:50there was three, four, four that they quoted in a news article.
- 16:53Dave Campbell from the Elks
- 16:55Bubba O'Neill as a Hamilton sports anchor,
- 16:58Troy Westwood, who we all know,
- 17:01and ~ Chris Hoffleet, the former Redbox Communications Manager,
- 17:05were all very upset about this post.
- 17:08And there was so much pressure,
- 17:10and I just saw there's like this.
- 17:11It's it's everywhere. It's like in the Globe and Mail.
- 17:14There was an article about anyway,
- 17:16Yeah.
- 17:16the BC
- 17:16Lions took it down today because of all these like sad panda people
- 17:21who can't like have any fun.
- 17:22And honestly, like learn to take a little bit of a joke.
- 17:26And if you wanna be the the Alouettes video at front that they did about
- 17:31the red Blacks was much worse than this,
- 17:33but it was in French, so maybe no one noticed.
- 17:36But it was much more devastating than this.
- 17:39Anyway, I was like, you know what?
- 17:41All you want us to do is have social media and engage new fans,
- 17:44and these types of posts have been going on TikTok and Instagram for a
- 17:48few weeks now with different
- 17:50Like a plant store I follow did one like this.
- 17:52So it's just kind of like a thing right now and it's not like that golf
- 17:56one where there was like clear domestic violence and they had to pull down
- 18:00and apologize for their being complete jerks and this this is not the same
- 18:04as that I would say in any stretch of the imagination.
- 18:07so anyway, it's just like you know what,
- 18:09maybe these guys should be eating lemons too.
- 18:11do you know what they're saying is wrong with the thing?
- 18:14Is it too cruel or
- 18:16Yeah,
- 18:17they said what did they say? He's like
- 18:20They're like kicking a team when they're down.
- 18:23It's a cheap shot and a poor look.
- 18:25And all this says to me is that they don't understand memes when teams
- 18:29are posting them. They don't un and they're not watching any team videos.
- 18:32They're just reading this one written state.
- 18:34Because the BC Lions did a written statement,
- 18:36you're this is the one you're paying attention to.
- 18:37Go go back and look because they're much worse and by worse
- 18:40Yeah.
- 18:41I mean like brilliant, brilliant things happening
- 18:43Yeah.
- 18:44on social media.
- 18:46Yeah,
- 18:46frankly what it says to me is the B C Lions were saying,
- 18:49Well yeah, we are we're happy we're happy we won,
- 18:52but it wasn't that great a thing 'cause it was only Ottawa,
- 18:55which is what everybody else is friggin' saying,
- 18:57so it just I don't know. I get a sense of humor.
- 18:58Yeah. Anyway, like it's fun to have fun boys.
- 19:02Yeah.
- 19:02Get a sense
- 19:03of humor, calm down and you know it.
- 19:05This is on the Red Blacks for like
- 19:07Yeah.
- 19:07the you gotta own it a little bit.
- 19:09Yeah, if you don't want the memes like this,
- 19:11start winning some games. You know,
- 19:12Start winning some games.
- 19:13it's
- 19:14exactly. Now I saw I have to admit I d sometimes the social media
- 19:20is absolutely great. Sometimes I just I'm left kind of going,
- 19:23Huh? And this is not a Winnipeg Saskatchewan rivalry thing.
- 19:29This is just was a huh for me.
- 19:31I saw one
- 19:32Winnipeg Blue Bomber social media came out with some kind of a statement today
- 19:35and reading even reading through it I Yeah.
- 19:37Because of this! It was because after they after the lions yes,
- 19:39was it because of this? Yeah, 'cause they were complaining about Regina Pizza
- 19:41so after the lions had Yeah,
- 19:44and I did not
- 19:45so
- 19:46it's just a quip about this because the b ~ they put it out after
- 19:50the BC Lions retracted their statement,
- 19:52then they they're like, guys, we have something to say.
- 19:54Like we we three
- 19:55~
- 19:55years ago someone made a comment about Regina Pizza and like we just wanna
- 19:59~
- 19:59like formally apologize. Like so they were just This is what's happening,
- 20:03right? Like
- 20:03Okay, that
- 20:04that I can live with. No knowing that I can see.
- 20:07That's good then. Yeah.
- 20:07It was bec they
- 20:08posted it like an hour after the B C
- 20:10Yeah.
- 20:11Lions had to take theirs down.
- 20:13Okay then good good work from them 'cause without that context I just read that
- 20:16and went, What?
- 20:18no,
- 20:18it's because the B C Lions took this down.
- 20:20I don't think the B C Lions should have taken it down.
- 20:22They didn't do anything wrong.
- 20:22No, I don't think so
- 20:23either, but yeah. People gonna do what they gonna do.
- 20:27I have to admit the social media has
- 20:27Anyway, so good job, B C Lee.
- 20:30been better in the CFL. I don't see it all,
- 20:32but the stuff I see has been good this year.
- 20:34Yeah, it's it's not it's not nasty to
- 20:40do some trash talking between teams and rivals and stuff like that.
- 20:44It's just part of the fun and it i if you're doing it,
- 20:47if you r if you're one of these
- 20:49Frankly, idiots that really hates another team.
- 20:53You know, to the point that you wanna see their players injured and stuff,
- 20:56well, I don't think you're a great fan and you shouldn't be in the league.
- 20:59or shouldn't be a fan of it, and anybody that's doing that I got no time for.
- 21:02But those of us that are just making fun of other teams,
- 21:06you know, it it is. It's it's good natured,
- 21:10it's kind of family ribbing, you know,
- 21:12it's like ribbing siblings
- 21:14I enjoyed the Alouettes one of the Ty Cats so much.
- 21:16I was like so like I l I downloaded it.
- 21:19I took some screenshots from it.
- 21:21I use one of the screenshots every time like so they make a bad play because it's
- 21:25just Lawler missing a b a pass and it says Oskie
- 21:26Yeah. Yeah.
- 21:28no no. And I use it all the time.
- 21:31Yes!
- 21:31Yeah. And see and you're a Hamilton fan,
- 21:33you get it, yes.
- 21:35I'm like, you know what? It's fair.
- 21:37That's fair.
- 21:38Yes. well. I'm
- 21:39Yeah.
- 21:40glad that they're doing better with a bunch of it.
- 21:42Anyway, BC Lions social media,
- 21:44if you see this, please keep posting because I enjoyed it a lot.
- 21:49Likewise. You have our support.
- 21:51You have the CFL outsider's
- 21:51Yeah.
- 21:52seal of approval on what you've done.
- 21:54Please keep doing it. Although sticking with the Lions here,
- 21:58there was an article in three down this week where they had a bit
- 22:02of an interview with ~ Benavides,
- 22:04the Lions defensive coordinator,
- 22:05who had a rough start to the season.
- 22:09Their defenses are playing some better,
- 22:11although we'll see how much better this weekend if
- 22:15Alexander is playing and at a hundred percent or close to it,
- 22:18that'll be a test for them. But they were interviewing Benavides and he went
- 22:24off on this bit where so many people are complaining that the CFL doesn't bring
- 22:29in new coaching talent. That it's basically it's the same coaches that have been
- 22:33there for twenty years, their retreads,
- 22:35they're they're just hiring the same thing over and over again.
- 22:39And he said that that is s his well
- 22:43Apparently he used the full version of BS that that is ridiculous that
- 22:48you want coaches that have been around forever,
- 22:51you want coaches with experience,
- 22:52yadda yadada. And apparently he said Look at it like a quarterback.
- 22:57Do you want a quarterback with experience or do you want a rookie quarterback?
- 23:00You go with who's gonna win for you.
- 23:02I saw that and I thought, Yeah,
- 23:05but do you want every quarterback in your quarterback room to be
- 23:08in his late thirties too?
- 23:10You know, there's
- 23:10McCloud
- 23:11Bethel Thompson is a experienced quarterback.
- 23:14Yes, exactly. You know, you could you could build quite a quarterback room
- 23:19~ with experienced quarterbacks who aren't winners.
- 23:22And and my whole point is, yeah,
- 23:24you need experience, but you also need to bring in new talent and you need
- 23:28to be creating a continuous turnover where you've got that balance between it.
- 23:33So I don't know if if Benavides is upset because people have been calling
- 23:39for his head all year or where it's at but
- 23:42be happy you have a job and to me don't be criticizing we need new coaching.
- 23:48It's like a both and. You need like people who have experience in the
- 23:53CFL and can run an efficient and effective team,
- 23:57but you also need new talent and new ideas.
- 23:59I don't think it's one or the other.
- 24:01like I know when when Jim Pop came back,
- 24:03everyone's like, just retreading the same old guys again,
- 24:06like ~ but I'm like I get it, I get it.
- 24:09I think it's ~ I think there's a little bit of an old boys club in coaching ranks
- 24:13in the
- 24:13This
- 24:13leak, and I think it's very extremely hard to break in in any meaningful
- 24:19way to head coaching positions.
- 24:21I actually am quite shocked Mark Killam even got a head coaching position
- 24:24considering all things. it's hard and it doesn't happen to very many people,
- 24:29and I think they are losing a lot of talent.
- 24:31but at the same time there's people who know CFL inside and out,
- 24:35I think part of this is coaches capping again where you
- 24:37can't take on and develop more coaches because you just don't have
- 24:41the room for them.
- 24:43Yes.
- 24:43there is something to that and I do think they need to adjust that coaches cap.
- 24:49And I'm not sure where you adjust it if you allow for more money to be spent
- 24:54so you can bring in more coaches,
- 24:56or if it's just a matter of you don't charge a team money that
- 25:00is still paying somebody they've had to release 'cause of a non performance.
- 25:04I think it's a little bit overblown to the old boys club.
- 25:07Yes, there's some of that, and and we're seeing it more because Toronto brought back
- 25:13Jim Barker and brought Huffnagel over from Calgary and Pop came back
- 25:17in for Ottawa when they needed it.
- 25:19But if you look at the last three,
- 25:22four years, we've got three head coaches that
- 25:26Yeah, they're they've been around the league a bit longer,
- 25:28but they worked their way up you've got out in B C Buck Pierce,
- 25:31who's in his what, third year,
- 25:33I think, as head coach. You've got Mace in Saskatchewan in third or fourth year.
- 25:38You got Killum in his second year.
- 25:39So in a nine team league, that is bringing in some new coaching there
- 25:43is a certain amount of
- 25:47younger players coming in at the positional coaching.
- 25:49But at the same time, you have a chance to bring in new coaches in Toronto
- 25:54and you promote your quarterbacks coach to a head coach.
- 25:58And then you you know, you bring in,
- 25:59like I say, Hofnagel and Barker,
- 26:01and then you bring in Greg Quick,
- 26:02who's been bouncing around the league forever to run your defense.
- 26:06And in Hamilton when they run into problems with William Fields,
- 26:09who was a younger coach and maybe shouldn't have been like,
- 26:11but
- 26:12They replace him with Reinbolt,
- 26:14who's been around forever. So to me there's something to the old boy stuff.
- 26:18Not Hamilton, that's Ottawa. I was like,
- 26:19Or Ottawa, sorry. Thank you for correcting me.
- 26:21hey now! Hey now, wait a second.
- 26:22Thank you for correcting me. Yes.
- 26:24Because I was like, yeah, that Ottawa.
- 26:25But say w listen to what I mean,
- 26:28not what I say.
- 26:28Did you see
- 26:29that Fields interview that he gave three down?
- 26:31That was spicy. That was spicy.
- 26:33Yes. Yeah, but I think he had a right to do it.
- 26:35~ he had a right to.
- 26:36If you're gonna you know, if Dinwiddy's gonna come out and start telling tales
- 26:38He's like, you know what, Ryan?
- 26:39Actually.
- 26:41out of
- 26:41school, then he should respond,
- 26:43yeah. Anyway,
- 26:43Yeah.
- 26:44it's less to me about it being a crisis in the CFL.
- 26:48I think that they are getting new coaching in.
- 26:49I just found it interesting that that's what Benavides decided he was gonna take
- 26:53his interview time to talk about.
- 26:55Well, he's got a lot of heat on him.
- 26:58Yeah. Yeah, and it did seem a little defensive to me.
- 27:00Yeah.
- 27:03All right, our a our our weekly check on attendance,
- 27:07checking in quick. Again, another good week,
- 27:09just shy of twenty-five thousand average.
- 27:12So that's good and it's up in the top two or three weeks that they've had this week.
- 27:17Saskatchewan sold out finally.
- 27:20They had the top of the week at thirty-three three fifty,
- 27:23and then Winnipeg had thirty-two and change.
- 27:26Calgary was just
- 27:28just under twenty and unfortunately Ottawa was still under fourteen.
- 27:31So Ottawa games will drag it down,
- 27:35but when you have an Ottawa game and you still average twenty five thousand
- 27:38per game, that's pretty good.
- 27:40Let's see, what else did we have?
- 27:40And that Ottawa game was like at
- 27:427 PM on a Sunday night. How is that even
- 27:45Yes, that's true too.
- 27:47helping a team out, honestly?
- 27:49fa the the the
- 27:50Schedule maker, come on.
- 27:52but the television fans like the Sunday night stuff,
- 27:55so
- 27:56What are you gonna do? personally I think there's something to be said
- 27:59to the one game a night for four nights in a row.
- 28:02It stretches the football over the weekend,
- 28:04keeps the interest there. I do kinda like that.
- 28:07But we won't be seeing it anymore now 'cause the NFL's starting up and ~
- 28:11so we won't have the Sunday games and we won't have the Thursday night games.
- 28:14It'll be down to either Friday,
- 28:17Saturdays, or I think yeah.
- 28:18Or four in one day.
- 28:20Two weeks out for in one day or when we get to Thanksgiving there'll
- 28:25be some around that too.
- 28:26But anyway. signings this week.
- 28:28Only one that I saw. Caleb Evans and the signed back with Montreal.
- 28:31Which is what got me looking for the injury reports.
- 28:35Cause Davis did take that hit that ~ took him out for a little bit on the weekend.
- 28:39So Dustin Crum,
- 28:41Dustin Crumb did first team reps today,
- 28:43but when asked, they said that Alexander was starting this on Friday.
- 28:46Yes. That's what I finally
- 28:48saw that he was we'll talk about that in the injury reports that he was limited,
- 28:52but they're expecting him
- 28:54They signed Caleb for one year,
- 28:56so that's interesting. I wonder who
- 28:58Yeah.
- 28:58Yeah.
- 28:59is getting bumped down. If anyone
- 29:01if anybody, you know, or is it just in
- 29:04case kind of thing? I don't know.
- 29:06I mean it it w if Alexander can't go,
- 29:08it'll certainly be a break for the the Lions because they're on a short week,
- 29:13five days between games, they're having to stay out east.
- 29:16They're gonna have tough tough sledding in there and if they don't have
- 29:20to face Alexander, if it's Crumb instead,
- 29:22that'll be a
- 29:23great equalizer in that game.
- 29:25But speaking of the games, let's talk about them.
- 29:27Montreal at Winnipeg.
- 29:31Montreal twenty-eight, Winnipeg forty-four.
- 29:34Like everyone
- 29:34Like we all predicted.
- 29:37was predicting. It was so obvious.
- 29:39And
- 29:39So obvious.
- 29:41I thought two things about this,
- 29:42to tell you the truth. I thought partially trap game,
- 29:46because
- 29:48Montreal's been flying so high and Winnipeg didn't look like they were doing very
- 29:51well at all. So I think you got a little bit of that.
- 29:54It didn't look like Montreal had as much bounce in their step as you would like
- 29:58to see. But it also showed just how close teams in this league really are,
- 30:04you know, and it's easy for us to get on here or any of the other talking heads
- 30:08to get on and go, well, you know,
- 30:09it's obvious that this team should overcome this one or this should be
- 30:13an easy win here. But the truth is
- 30:16probably even with Ottawa and definitely with outside of Ottawa.
- 30:19As much as teams have struggled here and there,
- 30:21the league is close enough that if you let a team who's vulnerable
- 30:28get their legs under them in a game and let them start to get some confidence behind
- 30:32them and start to believe in what they're doing,
- 30:35it can be dangerous as hell. And that's what happened here,
- 30:39I thought. W how did you feel about it?
- 30:43Well, Tommy Condell finally called a game that we all wanted him to call.
- 30:47Finally! Finally using weapons effectively.
- 30:52Noel Thorpe didn't have an answer,
- 30:53really, especially in the second half.
- 30:55I yeah. And defense put on a clinic.
- 30:58Willie j has his a hundred and knockdowns now.
- 31:02Mm-hmm.
- 31:03Alexander was having an absolute temper tantrum for two-thirds of this game.
- 31:07Like he was just like in fistic like he was just so flustered.
- 31:13And so whatever they did, everyone's watching game film on because they finally
- 31:17got him so rattled. And I was like,
- 31:19all I want to know is what Willie Jefferson and Davis Alexander are saying
- 31:23to each other. It's all I want.
- 31:25Because I think it was pretty awesome game.
- 31:28Yeah, like the Alouettes had no rushing.
- 31:31Like these had 31 yards. Excuse me,
- 31:33Yeah. Yep. And didn't even really try that much to rush with him.
- 31:36what? Like and No, they had eight carries.
- 31:38Yeah.
- 31:41And he had one one receiving, like he had one out of the backfield
- 31:44for negative 12 yards. So
- 31:47Brady was ~ having a day. Finally,
- 31:50thank you. That's the game I expect from him.
- 31:52So I'm not quite sure what happened because Tommy hasn't wanted to call this game
- 31:56all year, so I'm not quite sure what shifted there,
- 31:58but yeah.
- 32:00Yeah. It
- 32:01it was certainly good for Winnipeg fans.
- 32:04great and finally at home because it's not been fun there at Princess Auto
- 32:08at all lately. there was a point where Zach got hit and I thought
- 32:13for sure the concussion spotter was gonna pull him.
- 32:15Cause he looked pretty woozy getting up and they just let him continue playing.
- 32:19Yeah, again, consistency, please.
- 32:22Yeah. you know, like and then there's like some drama like O'Shea challenged
- 32:25PI on the second play of the game and he won.
- 32:27I was like, no, you I was like,
- 32:28Yes. Which is a good thing it set the tone.
- 32:32no, so early. What a waste of a challenge.
- 32:34Waste of a challenge. And then yeah,
- 32:35I like, ~ okay. Alright then. Kennedy,
- 32:38yeah, on Kennedy Kennedy, yeah,
- 32:40I don't know. There was but again,
- 32:42officiating this week was very hit or miss.
- 32:45Yep, there was questionable
- 32:47stuff out there. Both ways.
- 32:49Yeah,
- 32:51um's Diaz tackled Vavel on Special teams
- 32:55Mm-hmm.
- 32:57Don't do it, sir. Like on just pretend to tackle No,
- 33:00he went full for it.
- 33:01Yeah.
- 33:02yeah, but Montreal just had bad all three phases of their team were rattled.
- 33:05Yeah. Yeah. Hey,
- 33:07I yeah.
- 33:08kickers are football players too.
- 33:10They're allowed to tackle. Yeah.
- 33:11I know him at he's he shows me he's he's got muscle.
- 33:13I see it all the time. He's always flexing around.
- 33:14Yeah, we saw
- 33:16two good kicker tackles this weekend,
- 33:18so
- 33:19Yeah,
- 33:19we did. my favorite T SN moments for this game were a field goal during
- 33:23a commercial break.
- 33:24Mm-hmm.
- 33:25Thank
- 33:25thank you, TSN. I don't understand why you thought that was And then Luke Wilson,
- 33:30d I just have like Luke Wilson dismayed by Tommy Condell playing call
- 33:34was like an utter joy. He's like,
- 33:37okay, now they're gonna call this.
- 33:39This is this is what you need to call in this situation.
- 33:39Yeah.
- 33:42Then he's like, ~ Dustin,
- 33:44I don't understand what's happening right now.
- 33:46This doesn't
- 33:46Yes.
- 33:47make any sense to me. And I was like,
- 33:50Yeah.
- 33:51Yes. Which Yes.
- 33:53You're right, Luke. Anyway.
- 33:55And the thing is, I'm
- 33:58I'm willing to eat some crow about Luke.
- 34:00I was calling him an idiot over his CFL stuff for the longest time.
- 34:04Watching him as the analyst, he knows his football actually.
- 34:07And he explains it better than I do,
- 34:08He just needs to stay off social media.
- 34:09so give him credit for that.
- 34:12Yeah, well stay on social media and also realize that there's
- 34:16As bad as Tommy Condell may be as a OC,
- 34:20he's a CFL, he's a professional O.
- 34:22C. You're a a analyst, so let's give the credit to the people that are being paid
- 34:27to do what they do. And the fact that you don't understand
- 34:29Anyway.
- 34:30it doesn't make it wrong.
- 34:32no, I I it was it made my night.
- 34:34I was so I loved hearing that.
- 34:37~ but Tommy
- 34:38Yes. And I'd say the results showed it was yeah.
- 34:41Tommy proved everyone wrong, right?
- 34:43Like put it like
- 34:43Yeah.
- 34:44that's all on us. ~ but we were all we'll see.
- 34:47One game is ~ not a big sample size.
- 34:47Now. Yeah. And it was a game
- 34:51where they were in it so they could afford to run.
- 34:54They weren't trying to have to come back.
- 34:54Yes. Yeah.
- 34:55Well I honestly don't
- 34:57know. We'll talk later about predictions.
- 34:58I'm not sure what to think. But yeah,
- 35:00it was, I think, just a g the right the perfect storm for Winnipeg.
- 35:04Showed that they are capable of playing that way and they got up
- 35:09and got the momentum behind them and Montreal couldn't come back.
- 35:12If Pier or if ~
- 35:14O'Shea hadn't challenged that PI and they went two and out.
- 35:17Frankly it might have been a different game.
- 35:19'Cause they carried on from there
- 35:20Yeah, a hundred percent.
- 35:21and scored their first score, so
- 35:23Yeah. and yeah, and Alexander going down was pretty I was like,
- 35:28no. Like I couldn't
- 35:28Yeah.
- 35:29quite figure out what happened almost like I what I finally concluded
- 35:32to myself and like my husband I talked about like where maybe someone stepped
- 35:37on his like leg because it wasn't an obvious injury,
- 35:41but then they said at practice day he was wearing a compression sleeve on his leg,
- 35:45but he came back out and looked pretty good again,
- 35:46Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
- 35:47so I don't know.
- 35:49he looked a little limited in his movement,
- 35:50but he you know, he looked like he could play it was interesting.
- 35:54And it wasn't all terrible by Montreal.
- 35:55I mean they did have Sneed had that one
- 35:56no, they were playing.
- 35:58catch he caught down in the flat on about the ten and teleported himself into
- 36:04the end zone apparently 'cause he
- 36:05He
- 36:06is just a machine, that guy Yeah.
- 36:09Yeah. And to to break
- 36:11those tackles and keep the balance to stay inbounds know,
- 36:14He had three touchdowns. Three.
- 36:14it was Yeah. Yes.
- 36:19Yes. And and the thing is the game really it was relatively close.
- 36:24It turned on two things. It turned on a blocked punt but that Winnipeg
- 36:28Yeah.
- 36:28got on Montreal deep in their own end zone.
- 36:31Took turn wasn't a touchdown on the block,
- 36:33but it was on the one yard line,
- 36:34so they took it in from there.
- 36:37And then on the next series, they got Alexander scrambling around.
- 36:43He made a desperation throw to Thies who managed to somehow catch it,
- 36:47and started to turn around and tried to get upfield,
- 36:50and he got it knocked out, and it bounced off to one of the Winnipeg defenders,
- 36:54they recovered it, and they were in scoring position again,
- 36:57and that sort of put the game out of reach for them.
- 36:59Now I will say
- 37:00I think that's the play that
- 37:01Alexander got hurt on. Like there was like a huge I feel like I don't feel like
- 37:04Was that the one I it might have been.
- 37:06there's one where the the ball was like bobbled four times back and forth.
- 37:06Yeah. Yeah, that was the one I can't r I honestly I should know,
- 37:09Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's the one he got his leg hurt on,
- 37:12but I can't remember if it was the one he got hurt on.
- 37:13I think Yeah, I I thought it was a different one,
- 37:16because there was just like
- 37:17but could be wrong on it. However,
- 37:19I will say that I
- 37:20went back and looked at it there too.
- 37:21This is where consistency in the calls go.
- 37:24There could easily have been a horse Collar on the tackle on Alexander on that play.
- 37:28He was grabbed up the
- 37:31The defensive lineman got a a mitt of his jersey around the nameplate.
- 37:35I think he was asking for that call too.
- 37:37Yeah.
- 37:38Yeah, and it
- 37:39got ignored. So consistency please.
- 37:42But
- 37:42Consistency.
- 37:45but full credit to Winnipeg for their win.
- 37:47The one thing I could not understand was what the hell Thorpe
- 37:53was doing with his defense because there was at least four plays where Winnipeg
- 37:59ran a crossing route literally like a yard across the line of scrimmage
- 38:03and got thirty or forty yards out of it.
- 38:07well, maybe that's an exaggeration,
- 38:08got at least a first down, fifteen to twenty yards anyway.
- 38:11Their defenders were playing so far back from the sticks,
- 38:13and I know as the play starts to go on you want to drop your linebackers further
- 38:18back so that bender route that's become so popular isn't as easy But
- 38:22you can't be playing them fifteen,
- 38:24twenty yards deep where they can't close until the the receivers passed
- 38:28the first down line. And yet somehow they managed to pull that off over
- 38:32and over again.
- 38:34I think they are riding on their offense being really good this year.
- 38:37Like last year
- 38:39It may be.
- 38:39their defense was elite. I would say I think they were first in every category,
- 38:43and I wouldn't put them there.
- 38:44That's this year. I'm not quite sure what
- 38:45No.
- 38:46happened.
- 38:47No, I have to agree with that.
- 38:48And I said about about Luke not being an offensive coordinator.
- 38:51I'm not a defensive coordinator.
- 38:52I don't suggest that I knew how to fix what was going wrong for them.
- 38:55But Noel Thorpe should have known 'cause he's paid to do that.
- 38:56I have no idea. Yes.
- 38:59And he did not have any adjustments.
- 39:02Certainly makes the league more interesting going into Labor Day.
- 39:05If you know what, this really does,
- 39:07and I they they're fallible now,
- 39:10right? Like there's there's film on
- 39:11Yeah. Yeah.
- 39:13getting Alexander flustered and shutting their defense down.
- 39:16And we saw Winnipeg can still put it together for a very effective game.
- 39:22Yes, when you use your pieces correctly,
- 39:25good things are happening. Yeah.
- 39:25Yes. Yes.
- 39:27Jordan
- 39:28Younger the defense played a lot better.
- 39:29'Cause I was for sure
- 39:29Yeah. yeah.
- 39:30thought he was marching out of that.
- 39:32I was like, I don't know how much longer he's gonna be there,
- 39:34but yeah. Turnaround game for them,
- 39:35Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 39:36statement game for them, good job.
- 39:38Yeah.
- 39:38And I mean
- 39:39it wasn't the whole game. There were a couple of drives where Montreal marched well
- 39:43but overall
- 39:43Montreal.
- 39:44Winnipeg did what they needed to do.
- 39:45All right. And that took
- 39:46Yeah? Good for them.
- 39:49us to the to the next day,
- 39:50I took the Hamilton defense in my fantasy because I thought,
- 39:53~ a first time starting quarterback in that Hamilton defense,
- 39:57we're gonna see a a few turnovers.
- 39:59Amazingly enough, Josh Love looked pretty good.
- 40:02Better than I would have expected
- 40:02He looked where is GT?
- 40:05GT I wish he was on to talk about Josh Love for us.
- 40:07Yeah, yes. Yeah.
- 40:08Like
- 40:10he looked really good. I don't know.
- 40:12He did. He made a couple of mistakes,
- 40:14The Hamilton
- 40:14but
- 40:14defense has not been looking good for a couple weeks in a row now,
- 40:17though.
- 40:18I'm not sure what's happening there either,
- 40:18No, I don't
- 40:19it was a good win from Calgary.
- 40:21They ran the ball. They got the one big run from Mills at the end,
- 40:25but they ran it consistent enough to to keep pressure off Love.
- 40:28They completed some passes to they took two penalties for nine yards.
- 40:32I mean
- 40:34Yeah.
- 40:35That's about as clean a game as you can possibly get.
- 40:38You know, as opposed to well, Hamilton didn't do bad in this one,
- 40:42but I didn't mention the other game.
- 40:43Montreal had if what did they have?
- 40:44I think Montreal had like close to a hundred yards.
- 40:47I had it down at eight for eighty eight.
- 40:48So you can see you you lose like that.
- 40:50Calgary didn't make those mistakes.
- 40:52Hamilton, mind you, didn't make many mistakes either,
- 40:54but there were a couple of good plays by Hamilton.
- 40:55No, this was a close game. ~ it was a close game overall.
- 40:57sorry, go ahead. Yeah.
- 41:00Like
- 41:00it wasn't a blowout.
- 41:01it was, yeah. until
- 41:02Mills broke that run with under two minutes to go,
- 41:06Yeah it's a a dagger. ~
- 41:06they were still behind Calgary was at that point.
- 41:08So it could have gone
- 41:10either way. Ford played not fantastic,
- 41:12but good. He made a that beautiful pass early on to Mitchell for
- 41:15You know?
- 41:16fifty some yards with it. And what else did you see
- 41:20so
- 41:21I just had no like, yeah, Ford looked pretty good,
- 41:23love looked pretty good. Not great,
- 41:26pretty good. ~ if you've noticed,
- 41:28~ I have noticed, I've been watching,
- 41:30Ford gets snaps high.
- 41:34He gets snaps to the left, he gets snaps to the right.
- 41:37Very, very rarely is he getting a snap right to him where it needs to be.
- 41:43So that center is, I don't know what is going on,
- 41:46but when you're constantly corralling a ball,
- 41:49by the time you're corralled it,
- 41:51you've missed two reads.
- 41:53So he was in tough sledding all day.
- 41:55speaking of hits, Ford got hit on a slide.
- 41:59He got hit in the helmet and there was no call.
- 42:00Yep. Again, yep.
- 42:01And I
- 42:02said that he and VA are the two quarterbacks this year who keep getting
- 42:06hit in the head on slides and no one's calling those.
- 42:08And I'm not sure what the criteria is or what the difference is,
- 42:13but it's not okay. And someone's gonna really get hurt.
- 42:17Yeah, I agree. Had
- 42:19that in my notes too.
- 42:20there was a well there was a fun play where Wooden fumbled the ball on a punt
- 42:25or a kickoff and it hit the goalpost.
- 42:27It saved him. Because
- 42:28Yes.
- 42:30if it hadn't hit that goal post,
- 42:31it would have been well, we all know how a football's bounced.
- 42:34That could have gone anywhere really.
- 42:35So that won't happen next year.
- 42:37Next year he's on his own. But for that game he was saved.
- 42:40I'm gonna rag on Hamilton for a little bit.
- 42:42Read on the O-line got burned again this week.
- 42:45He looked bad
- 42:46And he's normally good.
- 42:48He's not like us two bad weeks in a row and I notice when I notice an O-line,
- 42:52a specific one not doing something,
- 42:55like they I don't know what Scott Mitchell was thinking.
- 42:59Not Scott Mitchell, Scott Milanovic.
- 43:00I don't know what Scott Milanovic was thinking.
- 43:02He put Dolagala in in the last play for in place of Ford to throw a Hail Mary.
- 43:10Nothing upsets me more than this.
- 43:12Of all that happened in that game,
- 43:14that is the plate that just makes me want to pack up and go home.
- 43:19It shows you have no faith in anyone in your team.
- 43:21I don't understand the play. I don't know if he anyone asked him.
- 43:24I'm sure they did, I haven't seen it,
- 43:26but I just
- 43:28Yeah, I agree. If I don't think they needed the extra
- 43:33arm strength if Dolagala has any,
- 43:35and he certainly doesn't have the accuracy yes,
- 43:37a Hail Mary's desperation, but you also are aiming it where your players have
- 43:41the best chance. So I don't know.
- 43:42Yes.
- 43:43Stupid.
- 43:45Mind you, they also had on the Calgary side there was a play where they were trying
- 43:49to run the screen that didn't work and Love decided he was just gonna toss
- 43:52it into the ground and instead tossed it into his offensive lineman
- 43:56and it bounced off two of them and Dabirrie at the at the defensive tackle suddenly
- 44:00sa had himself an interception that turned into points.
- 44:02Yeah.
- 44:03So
- 44:03that was fun.
- 44:05There was some fun things happening.
- 44:06the the best part of this game was that it was family day there and there
- 44:11was a ton of tailgating and they had they w you were allowed to go meet
- 44:14the players after the game and my son.
- 44:17was in Calgary for that game and my sister took him and his cousin to that game
- 44:21and he got to meet Damian Alfred.
- 44:23And they had made s they
- 44:23my, he would have
- 44:25made signs for Damian Alfred and he signed their sign.
- 44:28And then he Damien Alfred gave him one of his gloves.
- 44:31They took pictures together.
- 44:31~ wow.
- 44:33He talked to Jalen Philpot about Tyson and
- 44:36Yeah.
- 44:37So yeah that was honestly he told me it was his best trip of the year.
- 44:41So Alfred
- 44:42Yeah.
- 44:42if you're watching, seriously,
- 44:44you just like he was he just
- 44:45Made a young man's day. Yeah.
- 44:47like could not believe it. He could not believe it.
- 44:50And it was just like to see like the that's the fun thing about these things
- 44:54is like these kids like
- 44:57look up to these players so much.
- 44:59And it was just like what a joyful way to add.
- 45:02I mean it helps to hit a win so that they were in a good mood,
- 45:04Yeah, but but still though it's yeah.
- 45:05but but
- 45:06No.
- 45:08yeah, good job Stampeders. Thank you.
- 45:09Yep. So so happy days at MJ's house.
- 45:10yeah.
- 45:12I'm so I'm so impressed when
- 45:14I hear about stuff like that.
- 45:16I will say one other thing that I did notice that I thought it's it's funny just
- 45:20the little bits that really make a difference in a football game and they
- 45:24may or may not make a difference on that play,
- 45:26but players that concentrate and focus I love to see it because you never know when
- 45:31it's gonna work out. And there was a play for Hamilton.
- 45:34That Ford scrambled out to the right.
- 45:37There was nothing there, so he ended up running downfield.
- 45:40But they had a shot where you could see him from behind.
- 45:44So him running downfield and the DBs and the receivers further downfield.
- 45:48And five yards after Trey's crossed the line of scrimmage,
- 45:52Kenny Lawler still running downfield on a pattern with a DB with his back
- 45:57to the line of scrimmage,
- 45:59Mm.
- 45:59w focusing on Kenny. And not only does he keep running the pattern,
- 46:04He puts up his hands like the ball's coming in.
- 46:06Just that extra second or two of what it's better than a block in a case like that.
- 46:12just smart,
- 46:12Yeah.
- 46:13smart football. Just tiny little details.
- 46:16That's what turns losing teams into winning teams.
- 46:19I honestly believe that.
- 46:20Yeah.
- 46:21Kenny's you know, like they're everyone's saying he's not earning
- 46:24his paycheck this year since Bo went down,
- 46:26but it's plays like that, right?
- 46:27Like you're a team player first.
- 46:29Yes.
- 46:31Yes, exactly. And that's what I love to see with him.
- 46:34Now, anything else for us to talk about here?
- 46:39~ Stampeders put it together at home
- 46:41Yeah. And and
- 46:42without without VA and I didn't think they could do it and they did,
- 46:45and Josh Love actually looked pretty good.
- 46:47I didn't think so
- 46:48either. I'd taken them last week when I saw that VA was out,
- 46:51I thought, well don't like it.
- 46:53But hey like full credit to them.
- 46:55Unfortunate for you and the other Hamilton fans,
- 46:58but it was an entertaining game and you know
- 47:01It it wasn't like no one played terribly bad.
- 47:05No one was playing fantastic and no one was like they they were pretty evenly
- 47:09matched, I would say. Calgary definitely
- 47:10Yeah. Yeah, it was it was an average game,
- 47:14yeah.
- 47:16has a better running game than Hamilton and that's the difference.
- 47:18~ yeah.
- 47:19But wait
- 47:19a Trey is our running game, I guess.
- 47:21There was somebody who made a picture of like a Ti cat throwing to a
- 47:25Ti cat and they're like Trey's calling his own number again.
- 47:28the thing is there were some of those
- 47:28I like, yeah.
- 47:29were some of those were scrambles.
- 47:31Some of those were called were called plays.
- 47:33Yeah.
- 47:33Milanovic was calling runs for which is good to see.
- 47:37Yeah. Which great. ~ yeah, so why you pull out on your very last need
- 47:42to make it plays you put a cold QB in who hadn't been warmed up is
- 47:45Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 47:46in the definition of insanity,
- 47:48I would say.
- 47:48Exactly.
- 47:49And doesn't even really give a great chance to get away from the rush I agree.
- 47:53I do.
- 47:54Okay. Yes. Yes it is.
- 47:54Such is my season. Moving on.
- 47:58Yeah.
- 47:58And ~ condolences. Yeah.
- 48:01Yeah spell.
- 48:03Now the next game turned out a little better for me.
- 48:05This was where Toronto went into Saskatchewan.
- 48:08Toronto twenty four, Saskatchewan twenty eight.
- 48:11And I can't help myself. the rider fan in me is gonna come
- 48:16out for a big chunk of when I talk about this you'll see why.
- 48:20But just
- 48:21To be fair, some good things that the Argonauts had going before
- 48:28I get into a a rider-centric thing,
- 48:30Kelly, yeah, he threw some interceptions and some bad throws,
- 48:34but he made some very tight throws.
- 48:36He made some good passes, especially in the first half,
- 48:39to keep them going. He had almost 300 yards passing in the first half.
- 48:42The riders weren't containing him in the pocket as well as I'd like.
- 48:46They did a few times and got a a big hit on him on one play but
- 48:49he was getting outside and making plays off schedule,
- 48:52which he's very good at. The defense was playing well enough.
- 48:57Again, twenty-eight points. Saskatchewan had been averaging more than that
- 49:01in the early part of the season.
- 49:02And yes, their offense is a little bit dinged up with the receivers down,
- 49:06but the Toronto defense made some very good plays.
- 49:09stopped them on turnover on downs,
- 49:11I think two or three times They got a strip sack of Harris in the
- 49:15end zone that easily could have been a touchdown,
- 49:17but was a ~ safety instead.
- 49:20So you know they played well. But this had this felt well
- 49:28two things. Before I even talk riders,
- 49:29one of my favorite moments in this game was I swear Andre Pru,
- 49:34who is a fantastic ref
- 49:36was was trolling the riders fans.
- 49:38Because there was the play in the where Saskatchewan's backed up into their
- 49:45in their own end zone. Harris is trying to throw and sh guess who?
- 49:49Sean Lemon comes around the the outside,
- 49:52strips the ball off Harris. There's a scramble.
- 49:55Harris manages to somehow get his hand reached out and pull the thing back in,
- 50:00but we can't see that it's just this scramble and all these bodies on the ball
- 50:04And someone's going to have recovered it and it's going to either be a safety
- 50:06or a touchdown. And so that's what we're all waiting to see.
- 50:11And they strip them away, and Andre steps up to make his call.
- 50:16And I swear, in all the years I've been watching football,
- 50:21when you signal a safety, your arms are down at your side,
- 50:25they sweep up together and come up like this as a safety.
- 50:28That's how you call a safety.
- 50:31What Andre does is he sticks both his arms straight up in the air like
- 50:36a touchdown and then claps the hands together for the safety.
- 50:39And just to give everybody that heart attack That to me that had to be intentional,
- 50:44that was him having fun.
- 50:46I know I'm droning on, but I will say the reason this game meant so much to
- 50:49me is I became I went out to Regina in nineteen eighty seven
- 50:55and was the broadcast engineer,
- 50:57ran the engineering department for CKRM,
- 51:00who has the rider's rights. So I went was at all the rider's games doing
- 51:03the technical stuff. I got exposed to rider culture and rider mentality
- 51:08and that's where I fell in love with it and that's where I became the rider
- 51:11fan so much.
- 51:13But it was a certain a weird time.
- 51:15Those late eighties and nineties.
- 51:17I've said be to you before and to folks here before,
- 51:20traditionally with the riders,
- 51:22I always felt best when they were down ten points at the half,
- 51:25because the games were just chaos.
- 51:27And you know, it was in a time back then we had well,
- 51:30we had Gregory had won the Grey Cup and coached for a while,
- 51:33but then they brought in Matthews and Ray York and and John Daly,
- 51:36and they just kept going through coaches and they couldn't get the right thing.
- 51:39They had at quarterbacks they had
- 51:42Austin for a while and then they had Warren Jones and then they had Reggie Slack
- 51:46and it was and there was a lot of chaos to it.
- 51:48And the thing with them was they might win the game or they might not,
- 51:52but it wasn't gonna be normal.
- 51:54Or it was always every week with something weird going on.
- 51:58It was just all over the place.
- 52:00And then over the last few years we've had well,
- 52:04a little Dickinson was a bit like that,
- 52:06but
- 52:06But Corey Mace came in and it became a professional football team and
- 52:09you could look at them like a professional football team and judge them that way.
- 52:12This game was back to the nineties.
- 52:14this was the CFL chaos I fell in love with.
- 52:17I mean you think about it, yes,
- 52:19there were some touchdowns and there were field goals.
- 52:21There were all both teams also missed field goals.
- 52:23Both teams missed converts. There was a safety which never happens.
- 52:28There was a friggin' convert blocked in return for two points for the defense,
- 52:32which I don't know if I've ever seen it.
- 52:35this was a nineteen nineties Rough Riders game and I just my
- 52:40my nostalgia glasses were just going everywhere.
- 52:43Whether they won or lost that,
- 52:44I don't I probably I felt a lot better about the win,
- 52:48but just just the chaos of it.
- 52:50I fell in love with it. How did you feel as a non longtime rider fan?
- 52:54Well, I I just have notes. I didn't I actually take a lot of notes on this game,
- 52:58but just have like a special teams adventures.
- 53:01~
- 53:01Mm-hmm.
- 53:03Toronto's rushing game was like a disaster after they did so well last week.
- 53:07yeah.
- 53:08~ McFadden was offside on that hard count,
- 53:11feel whatever at the end of the game and but ~ Miller after the game they were like
- 53:15trying to get him to throw him under the bus and he said like one play doesn't cost
- 53:19the team and they should have been playing BFAD.
- 53:20No, good point.
- 53:21So I was like, you know what? Thank you.
- 53:23McFadden isn't
- 53:23Yeah. If you're in that p
- 53:26the reason. If you're exactly if you're in that position,
- 53:28McFadden going offside shouldn't cost you the game.
- 53:31Yes. And frankly you were
- 53:33in that game 'cause McMaddden played a whale of a game.
- 53:36Yeah. Anyway, so
- 53:36He was playing tight coverage
- 53:39and not letting anything get completed his way.
- 53:42So yeah, you
- 53:43Yeah.
- 53:44go ahead and say he made a bad penalty at that point.
- 53:46You wouldn't have been in the game without him.
- 53:49Who among us have not taken a bad penalty?
- 53:52yeah.
- 53:53Right? Who among us?
- 53:56it was like another back and forth seesaw,
- 53:58Yeah. Yeah.
- 53:59weird things
- 54:01are happening. CFL weekend on a Saturday night.
- 54:03Yeah, K CFL Chaos loved it. And I gotta tell you,
- 54:05Yeah. Just
- 54:07as a as a fan watching that moment,
- 54:09and he jumped and then the flag came out and I wasn't jumping up
- 54:14and down and screaming woo hoo or anything.
- 54:16I was in stunned silence, going,
- 54:17no. No, that the football gods don't do that for us.
- 54:21They don't help us that way. It's gonna be something.
- 54:24It's gonna they're gonna say we
- 54:24Well
- 54:25move first. They're gonna say so and I just I had no faith until they made the call.
- 54:27You did you
- 54:30You did get some help because there was no PI on Coxie on that last play.
- 54:35So
- 54:35Yeah. Yeah, there is that. So
- 54:38I will give you that. Now mind you,
- 54:39they still would have had to get in and score,
- 54:41so they maybe they could have but I again I don't know
- 54:42Still weird officiating.
- 54:45I don't know the context that that got put up there on.
- 54:49So if it was just a fan putting it up there and then the Argonauts had
- 54:52to comment on it, I understand that.
- 54:54But it seems I get a little bit annoyed when you see games where
- 55:00a team loses and then the losing quarterback comes out with complaints like that,
- 55:05the the official did this wrong on this one play.
- 55:08Or they should have called this on this one play.
- 55:10When one as we've just finished saying,
- 55:12one play doesn't make a game. So
- 55:15I get a bit annoyed with with sour grapes losers
- 55:18Now I will say, last thing on this,
- 55:20I could go on forever and I'm gonna limit myself because it was just so much fun.
- 55:25But along with my referencing it as a throwback game,
- 55:30I got thinking about that a little bit too.
- 55:33They used to have the T SN turning point in the games.
- 55:37And sometimes it made sense and sometimes it didn't.
- 55:41So this one I'm gonna I'm going to give you a choice of three.
- 55:45A ~ multiple choice question here.
- 55:47You can pick the ones. Given that the Riders won that game by four points,
- 55:53was the TSN turning point the offside that McFadden took
- 56:00that let them go from a field goal to a touchdown?
- 56:03Was it the strip sack in the end zone that could have been a seven point touchdown
- 56:09and Harris recovered for a two point?
- 56:11Safety, so there's a five-point swing there.
- 56:14Or was it the last 20 seconds of the first half?
- 56:18Where in any normal game, Toronto would have kicked the convert and gone up
- 56:2423 to 7 and had a what would that be a 16-point lead going into the half?
- 56:30But in this game, their convert was blocked,
- 56:34returned for two points.
- 56:36The kickoff took five seconds,
- 56:37which left Saskatchewan with fifteen seconds to play,
- 56:40and then most teams in that situation are just going to take a knee
- 56:44and say we'll live for the second half.
- 56:45The riders got aggressive and threw two deep passes and kicked a fifty yard field
- 56:50goal. that last twenty seconds of the first half was a six point swing.
- 56:54The other two were four or five point swings.
- 56:57Which was the turning point?
- 57:00~ so I my TSN turning points always hinge on how did this affect the morale
- 57:05of your team? Because I feel like the when it something that breaks
- 57:09the mental state of your team,
- 57:11like most that's the thing that 'cause it could just be the most mundane thing,
- 57:14but if it is the thing that just turns a tide and a mentality so I would say C.
- 57:19Because
- 57:20Okay. Yeah.
- 57:22Nothing is more devastating to you than having a what should be easy point easy
- 57:29blocked in return for two. That is demoralizing.
- 57:32And that's what you go into half with.
- 57:34Yeah. Yes. They also pointed out I thought I found this was interesting,
- 57:40not on T SN, but on the radio broadcast of the game.
- 57:43They pointed out that they block the convert,
- 57:47sales recovers it, runs it back for the two points.
- 57:51You'd think that
- 57:53That happens very rarely. It should be huge energy and celebrations And sales
- 57:58ran it into the end zone and they said basically just disgustingly threw
- 58:01it down and headed back. And they Yeah,
- 58:03well, that's a lot of running for two points.
- 58:06well not only that, but
- 58:08they he was their defensive game star on the radio broadcast and they asked
- 58:12him about it. And he said what was there to celebrate?
- 58:15We we were playing like crap and we were way behind.
- 58:18There was work to do. I just wanted to get back to to fixing it.
- 58:21And I like that attitude.
- 58:21Yeah. Good for you.
- 58:25Anyway, that's so much for that.
- 58:27That's my little bit of reflective glory that I'm that I've been sitting with
- 58:31for a couple of days.
- 58:33Then we had the Sunday night game.
- 58:35Which, like I said, I thought might end up being a trap game.
- 58:40And BC did go down 14 to 3. Nathan threw a couple of early interceptions that
- 58:45weren't great. And then they just
- 58:48kept sort of plugging away at it and plugging away at it.
- 58:51Thr Ottawa had another one where they were on the one yard line and turned
- 58:55it over on downs.
- 58:57It was a a fantastic Yes.
- 58:58And then Rourke got intercepted and then they turned it back and finally got it in,
- 59:01Yes. Yeah,
- 59:03but still, but still. I mean it turned in the end.
- 59:05so it did turn out to be they got points on it in the end,
- 59:08but it was still
- 59:09Yes, it was there. But but there was also by Jackson for BC had
- 59:14an in fantastic catch where he tipped the ball up to himself and caught
- 59:17it while others were
- 59:18Yeah.
- 59:18flailing around him and ran it for down to the one and a half yard line.
- 59:23And ~
- 59:25Yeah, but they just B C was better than Ottawa in the end.
- 59:29And
- 59:30Yeah. ~
- 59:31most of the games have been pretty good on penalties this year.
- 59:33I point out when they're not BC had ten penalties for eighty four yards against them
- 59:39in this game and still won handily.
- 59:41Partially because Ottawa had fifteen for a hundred and fifty four yards.
- 59:46So fifteen penalties and you're averaging over ten yards per penalty is
- 59:51I joked that the Red Blacks defensive backs were simultaneously winning
- 59:56and losing the game for them. Because for every interception they
- 59:59had some terrible PI. Like
- 1:00:03Yes.
- 1:00:04they just could not. man, because I was for yeah,
- 1:00:06for you guys are winning and losing this game at the same time.
- 1:00:09it's incredible really how you were managing to do this.
- 1:00:12this game was tied at half.
- 1:00:13Yeah.
- 1:00:14Yep.
- 1:00:14And they were only down by a touchdown at the end of the third and then
- 1:00:17the fourth they were tired like their defence was done,
- 1:00:20right? Like Yeah.
- 1:00:20Yeah. Yeah, just Horvath ran over them.
- 1:00:23Yeah, Horvath ran over them.
- 1:00:23People weren't interested in in
- 1:00:26taking him on hard. He'd obviously worn that defense down some.
- 1:00:30But yeah, like ~ like Ottawa was in it till they weren't.
- 1:00:34Yes.
- 1:00:34but they just they just do it.
- 1:00:35they said on the okay, in defense of the Red Blacks defense,
- 1:00:39because I learned this watching this,
- 1:00:41they have on just just the defensive side of the ball.
- 1:00:45They have nineteen defensive players on the six game injured list.
- 1:00:49Yeah.
- 1:00:50Yes. And some very good players.
- 1:00:5119! Not the whole team! Just defense!
- 1:00:54Yes.
- 1:00:55I couldn't bel- I
- 1:00:56was like, this is ridiculous. I know,
- 1:00:57and then I saw Niles Morton get hurt again,
- 1:00:59and I was like, he just came back.
- 1:01:01I'm like, ~ no. yeah. Aiden Eberhard has a little heart celly he's doing with
- 1:01:06the crowd. That's fun.
- 1:01:06It does. Yes, I've seen that, yeah.
- 1:01:08Yes. Nice to see him doing well against a former team.
- 1:01:10I like that. Yeah.
- 1:01:13did you catch the
- 1:01:15fact apparently the Red Blacks have hired
- 1:01:17Jim Pop Yes
- 1:01:19No, I don't know. I I only saw him on the sidelines a hundred times.
- 1:01:24I saw more of Jim than I saw of the actual game,
- 1:01:26I'm pretty sure. yeah.
- 1:01:28I think so.
- 1:01:30Rourke took a horse collar penalty,
- 1:01:32so he was part of the reason why for those eighty-four yards.
- 1:01:32Yes. Dirty player, dirty player.
- 1:01:34Alright.
- 1:01:34~ quarterbacks
- 1:01:38aren't taught to tackle.
- 1:01:40Yeah, that was pretty
- 1:01:40funny. Well, you know what, he threw an interception and then he ~ went
- 1:01:44and almost recovered his own fumble.
- 1:01:46But it was a
- 1:01:46Yeah. Yeah. And he got in after where
- 1:01:49it's most quarterbacks are gonna run towards the interception and then find
- 1:01:53a way to not do much.
- 1:01:55Yeah,
- 1:01:55no, he he horse-collared. And if he hadn't horse collared,
- 1:01:58they might anyway. It was kinda funny.
- 1:02:00I had I I enjoyed that. he settled down.
- 1:02:02He looked a little he looked a little rough there.
- 1:02:05yeah. Like yeah,
- 1:02:06Yeah. Starting out, yes he did.
- 1:02:08I did. settled down. once they got Horvath going,
- 1:02:12then that was that was it. How many four touchdowns.
- 1:02:15Yeah.
- 1:02:16Now
- 1:02:16Let me t ask I'm gonna ask you what you think.
- 1:02:18So now Horvath is on pace to beat Milt Stegel's touchdown record.
- 1:02:23Do you think short yardage touchdowns should count for that?
- 1:02:29frankly I see what people are saying,
- 1:02:31but I don't know that it's all that different,
- 1:02:34especially in his case. if he got twenty what is it the record?
- 1:02:38Twenty three, I think?
- 1:02:40one more touchdown than Milt does and they were all from the one yard line,
- 1:02:45then I might say, yeah, that's
- 1:02:48That's a little iffy. Makes you wonder why they're why they get down to the one.
- 1:02:51And it's actually amazing how many teams get stopped on the one yard line.
- 1:02:55even with the the fact of PI in the end zone getting it there,
- 1:02:59there's an amazing number of plays that are stopped down around the one
- 1:03:02or two yard line. But I think that
- 1:03:04Given what he brings to that team overall,
- 1:03:07that he's is a running back that's putting up big yardage running,
- 1:03:10he has run in longer touchdowns,
- 1:03:12he's got receiving touchdowns.
- 1:03:14I'm happy with giving him the record for whatever he gets.
- 1:03:18He's contributing to that team.
- 1:03:20How about you?
- 1:03:22Yes and no. I don't know if your one yard sneaks should count.
- 1:03:26if you're running it in from not the one yard line or if you're receiving,
- 1:03:30that's different because Milts were definitely not running it in from the one,
- 1:03:33right? Those were maybe we should differentiate between receiving touchdowns
- 1:03:37and rushing touchdowns and punching it in touchdowns.
- 1:03:40Cause I feel like
- 1:03:40Yeah. Well
- 1:03:42there's there they're three different skill sets.
- 1:03:45Well I will say this. Anybody who says
- 1:03:49Short yardage touchdowns, touchdowns from the one shouldn't count because they're
- 1:03:53too easy. Before you say that,
- 1:03:56you should have to go in and run half a dozen short yardage plays in the CFL,
- 1:04:00not saying they're easy. They're it's it's it's different.
- 1:04:02'cause it is not easy. And you get the hell beat out of yourself doing that.
- 1:04:05It's different. And those are becoming I mean
- 1:04:08and besides the red blacks, they're pretty automatic for most
- 1:04:11Yeah.
- 1:04:11other teams. So for what it's worth.
- 1:04:14Yes, but it's it there c
- 1:04:15it comes with a cost. it is not easy on the body.
- 1:04:19Trust me, that is that is nasty yards you're getting there.
- 1:04:24last thing I'll say about this game again,
- 1:04:25it was a weekend of chaos. Things that you don't see often or ever.
- 1:04:30this weekend in this game, Ottawa managed to get the ball just in field goal range.
- 1:04:37And sent thirteen players out to the huddle.
- 1:04:39So they took a penalty that put them outside of field goal range,
- 1:04:42which is a stupid thing to do.
- 1:04:44And you don't see it that often.
- 1:04:46What made it the next grade CFL chaos was when BC decided to do
- 1:04:51it another quarter later in the game and did exactly the same thing.
- 1:04:56Had themselves in field goal range,
- 1:04:58didn't have their substitutions together and got called for too many men
- 1:05:02on in the huddle and kick
- 1:05:03punts in both cases.
- 1:05:06Math is hard sometimes.
- 1:05:08Yeah.
- 1:05:09Yeah. But you know, just again,
- 1:05:11there's so many things that you have to get right to do well
- 1:05:15in a professional sports game.
- 1:05:18And people don't realize just how many things can go wrong.
- 1:05:24Alrighty. Anything else on the games?
- 1:05:26Yeah, well this'll be interesting 'cause ~ w well we'll talk about it
- 1:05:30but BC's gotta stay out there now.
- 1:05:31So
- 1:05:32Yes.
- 1:05:32I hope they're hope they're enjoying their East Coast tour.
- 1:05:35That's not East Coast Central Central tour.
- 1:05:35Yes. Apparently they're gonna practice twice,
- 1:05:37Yeah. ~ yeah,
- 1:05:37they said. Five days rest. So power rankings.
- 1:05:40well I mean Red
- 1:05:41Black yeah, Red Blacks they they they tried.
- 1:05:44They were at home, they played well.
- 1:05:45I feel really bad for them and their fans.
- 1:05:47they just yeah, some couple stupid decisions and that's the difference in the game.
- 1:05:53Do you put Bryson Barnes in or not?
- 1:05:55And I've heard people say, Well d
- 1:05:56He looked okay, but it was garbage time.
- 1:05:58I've heard people say, Well, you don't
- 1:05:59do that 'cause the team's so bad it'll destroy any confidence he's got.
- 1:06:02I think you've got to find a quarterback.
- 1:06:04So you may as well find
- 1:06:05Yeah.
- 1:06:05out now. Give him two or three games.
- 1:06:07If he can't do it, go looking at your negotiation list.
- 1:06:11But keeping him in there running short yardage where he's not getting first downs
- 1:06:15anyway isn't helping anybody.
- 1:06:16Well he clearly he's not good at
- 1:06:17short yardage, so he's gotta do something else.
- 1:06:18Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
- 1:06:21You got your power rankings together.
- 1:06:23I do, yeah. All right, power rankings.
- 1:06:26This is it's getting tight
- 1:06:27Okay.
- 1:06:28here in the CFL, like the especially this this weekend I was like,
- 1:06:30Making it interesting. Yeah.
- 1:06:31I don't understand. ~
- 1:06:33I I'm looking
- 1:06:34to see what you've got at three through six.
- 1:06:40Okay, well we can I'll tell you and then we can discuss.
- 1:06:43so first is the elks. They're on the bye.
- 1:06:46Second, Alouettes, proving they can be beaten.
- 1:06:48Three is the lions, because they are on a hot streak,
- 1:06:53and they yeah. Four is the riders.
- 1:06:55Five is the stamps, because
- 1:06:58They didn't have a starting QB and they looked good and love looked good.
- 1:07:01Six is the Bombers. They are moving up because they put a game together.
- 1:07:05Whether that can continue, we shall see.
- 1:07:08Seven is the Argos. eight is the Tycats,
- 1:07:11and nine is the Red Blacks.
- 1:07:14Good stuff.
- 1:07:14I mostly agree. I do think I probably would've shuffled those middle four from what
- 1:07:20you had. I thought I thought Winnipeg looked good enough I would have bumped them
- 1:07:27up to third.
- 1:07:29To third.
- 1:07:30Yeah, just based on what they showed they can still do.
- 1:07:33I
- 1:07:35I think that's the only game they've shown all year that they can do that.
- 1:07:38Yeah, it it well they they also did it for a half a game in Edmonton,
- 1:07:38So if they can still if they can do it again.
- 1:07:41so and again snapshot
- 1:07:43Yeah.
- 1:07:44stuff. I'm not saying I'm right,
- 1:07:45but I'm saying at this
- 1:07:46Yeah.
- 1:07:46point in time, maybe th they're there.
- 1:07:48I probably would have left BC ahead of Saskatchewan because they neither
- 1:07:52of them played absolutely fantastic,
- 1:07:55impressive games, but BC got stuff done a bit more on the road in what
- 1:08:01and against a slightly weaker team.
- 1:08:03But Saskatchewan, while they won,
- 1:08:05did not look fantastic. So I would have had them.
- 1:08:07So I my ones would have started with Winnipeg,
- 1:08:10BC, Saskatchewan, then Calgary in those mid-orders.
- 1:08:13But that's why they're so wonderful.
- 1:08:15They're an opinion and everybody's is a little different.
- 1:08:18So folks, let us know in the comments or wherever on social media what
- 1:08:22you think of what we've got here now.
- 1:08:24Thank you. Good job doing these,
- 1:08:27by the way. So happy you're doing these.
- 1:08:28~ well.
- 1:08:30It gives me no joy to be putting the tie cats in at the bottom.
- 1:08:33I'm like, this is so stupid.
- 1:08:34No. Well, believe
- 1:08:36me, it if I was doing them and it would have given me no joy to have
- 1:08:39the riders at six, but I think that that would have been fair.
- 1:08:43Anyway, injury reports.
- 1:08:46Had a real hard time finding this.
- 1:08:49The CFL's brand new website apparently is live as of September 1st.
- 1:08:54And their app was available as of September 1st,
- 1:08:57although it certainly is not any app store I can find at this point.
- 1:09:01No one.
- 1:09:02And
- 1:09:02As a result of the new website which seems a lot like the old website
- 1:09:08in some ways things that have just been moved around and are missing.
- 1:09:12I could not find injury reports anywhere.
- 1:09:16The page they normally show up on was a I think they called it an out
- 1:09:20of bounds ki page. Obviously it was broken.
- 1:09:23I finally found something just by doing a search under a heading of Labor Day
- 1:09:30injury reports and and they were out there but how I'll get to them next week
- 1:09:34I don't know so we'll see anyway.
- 1:09:36CFL's going through more changes with their social media that I'm
- 1:09:39not not completely impressed with.
- 1:09:41However, that's fine. so the injury reports as it turns out we with
- 1:09:45the games on Sunday and Monday,
- 1:09:48the bulk of them this week, the only one that we saw was out of Montreal and BC.
- 1:09:53Montreal, as MJ said
- 1:09:56Alexander was limited, although they're saying he will play this weekend,
- 1:10:00but I didn't I hadn't heard the bit about the air cast,
- 1:10:03so that's interesting.
- 1:10:04compression sleeve.
- 1:10:05Compression sleeve. Okay, yeah.
- 1:10:07Different thing. All right, thank you for the correcting that.
- 1:10:09Stearns, who hasn't been in for quite a while,
- 1:10:11was limited, so he must be coming b ready to come back from injury.
- 1:10:13But Phil Pot was limited as well,
- 1:10:16and so was Wesley Sutton on the defense.
- 1:10:18Una from the O line and then a couple of defenders.
- 1:10:21Bell at on the D line and Halatic as linebacker were limited.
- 1:10:25And that was the extent of what we know now.
- 1:10:29So yeah, that'll be what Alexander can or can't do is going to be
- 1:10:34a huge impact on that game this weekend.
- 1:10:39What a nightmare to be an Alouettes fan.
- 1:10:41Like that's a live by, die by,
- 1:10:43like what the any given moment.
- 1:10:46And so stressful. So stressful.
- 1:10:47Yeah. And I Yeah. Well and I mean
- 1:10:51the team, if he misses a game or two or three,
- 1:10:54what does that do to Phil Potts chances at the receiving record?
- 1:10:57Personally I don't I don't think Phil Potts going to get that receiving record.
- 1:11:03Everybody's so hyped on the fact that he's on pace for it and he's certainly playing
- 1:11:07well enough to get it. But if he keeps playing well enough and
- 1:11:11the team keeps playing well enough to get it,
- 1:11:13They'll have clinched first place in another two or three weeks.
- 1:11:16And then how many games does he sit out down the stretch so that they don't take
- 1:11:21a chance at injuries And I think he's capable
- 1:11:23Yeah and
- 1:11:24of it, and I think if they were in a push to stay in the playoffs
- 1:11:27all the way through, he'd get it.
- 1:11:28But given what we've seen this year with the team I don't think he'll
- 1:11:31get the opportunities.
- 1:11:33And you know what, maybe Sneed'll get it.
- 1:11:35Yeah, maybe. They may leave and two.
- 1:11:37I mean, yeah, they are one and two,
- 1:11:39but anyway,
- 1:11:40Yeah.
- 1:11:41let's talk about games Did you get anything from MJ two this time or?
- 1:11:45Yes,
- 1:11:45she sent me her pics.
- 1:11:47Okay,
- 1:11:48so who does she have between B C and Montreal?
- 1:11:51~ she picked Lions, Horvath and Rourke,
- 1:11:54and who are even are the Alouettes after last week?
- 1:11:57She said this was her hardest pick.
- 1:11:59I I still think last week was an anomaly and I don't think the BC defense
- 1:12:05is as especially the pass defense is as good as everybody wants to give them credit
- 1:12:09for. I think their run defense has been very good,
- 1:12:12but their pass defense not so much.
- 1:12:13I will take Montreal in this one.
- 1:12:16How about you?
- 1:12:18Right, so here's the drama of like the short week for the Lions.
- 1:12:22They have to stay out there. And they the red blacks were looking good against them,
- 1:12:28so that worries me. Alexander's leg worries me,
- 1:12:32but
- 1:12:33I think
- 1:12:35think let me see what do I want to s I was gonna say something I can't remember.
- 1:12:38~ I'm gonna I'm gonna pick Aloettes because I just think I think I just g
- 1:12:43I betcha ~ Anthony Calvillo has been having a meltdown all week about this.
- 1:12:47And
- 1:12:48Yes.
- 1:12:49Noel Thorpe is gonna be having a meltdown and I expect Calvilo and Thorpe
- 1:12:53to ~ be like scouring game film and that will be better.
- 1:12:58They have seven days between games.
- 1:13:01BC has five days. They're were on the road,
- 1:13:04came home and practice at home all week and get ready for a home game.
- 1:13:07BC has to stay out in the east and practice two days wherever they're going
- 1:13:12to practice.
- 1:13:13BC should be a little bit annoyed about how they started,
- 1:13:16but they came back and should be feeling good about themselves after that win.
- 1:13:21Montreal is going to be pissed.
- 1:13:23And so even if Alexander doesn't play or plays and then comes out early,
- 1:13:28if it's Crumb in there, I still think Montreal will win this one.
- 1:13:33~ so two things. My my aunt texted me,
- 1:13:36she's a BC Lions fan, she texted me to say this is a Grey Cup preview game.
- 1:13:39Okay.
- 1:13:40And then in my household, this is my husband and my son's favorite teams playing
- 1:13:44each other, and I think I'm going to hide with my laptop in a different level
- 1:13:48of the house during this game and watch it on my own.
- 1:13:49Good idea. Yes, let let some family bonding go
- 1:13:53on bet between the males there,
- 1:13:54Yeah, I'm like I don't know if I wanna be involved.
- 1:13:56yeah.
- 1:13:56I I well, who do I cheer for? I'm like I don't know,
- 1:13:59I can't say anything. Otherwise I'll be it'll
- 1:14:01I'll be accused of favoritism,
- 1:14:03so Yeah.
- 1:14:03Yes, exactly. I'll just be over here.
- 1:14:06You folks have fun.
- 1:14:08I'll
- 1:14:08be in my laptop on a different level of the house.
- 1:14:11Yeah.
- 1:14:12Let me know how it goes.
- 1:14:14All right then. Winnipeg and Saskatchewan.
- 1:14:16Who do you think's gonna take that one?
- 1:14:19my god, this say the that my sister thinks that the BC LOS game is
- 1:14:23the hardest one to pick. I think this is probably one of the harder ones to pick.
- 1:14:28Are the bombers gonna play like they played this weekend?
- 1:14:31Are the riders gonna play like they played this weekend?
- 1:14:34And this is like you know, this is like it's like Zach versus Trevor.
- 1:14:39This is like old man football.
- 1:14:41~ just jokes, guys. You're both elite quarterbacks,
- 1:14:44but kind of like you're like the Elder Stateman's ~ Elder Statesman's Labor
- 1:14:49Day classic in Saskatchewan.
- 1:14:54I will probably pick the riders but expect me to pick the bombers in the banjo bowl.
- 1:14:59Okay. That sounds good. I will say Bombers have looked very good
- 1:15:05for three of the last four halves of football they've played.
- 1:15:09They're on top of their stuff quite well.
- 1:15:12Saskatchewan hasn't been. Saskatchewan's offense hasn't been great.
- 1:15:16their defense has had some questions.
- 1:15:19And yes, there's injuries there,
- 1:15:20maybe this is just me, but looking at how things have gone.
- 1:15:24I'm wondering how much the whole Jaden Dalke thing maybe got into the psyche
- 1:15:29of the riders team there. It seems like they just have not been the same team since
- 1:15:34that whole tragedy happened.
- 1:15:37And there were so many layers to that making it hard to handle.
- 1:15:40I don't know if maybe that's just if they're still struggling with it.
- 1:15:44However, with all that said, Zach puts together some good games now and then,
- 1:15:48but I haven't seen him put two good games together.
- 1:15:52in
- 1:15:52a long time. So I don't think he'll play the way he did against Montreal.
- 1:15:56they went into Edmonton and everybody was saying,
- 1:15:58Winnipeg's gonna be just stomped here.
- 1:16:01And I think Edmonton kind of felt that and got behind early and then
- 1:16:04had the the gumption to come back and win it.
- 1:16:07I think the same thing happened to Montreal and they didn't have the gumption.
- 1:16:11I don't think Saskatchewan will be coming into this taking it at all light
- 1:16:15in any way. I think it matters to them.
- 1:16:17I think
- 1:16:18having the home field advantage will make a difference.
- 1:16:20So yeah. I'm I'm going to pick them and I'll hold off saying
- 1:16:25any banjo bowl predictions until I see what happens this weekend.
- 1:16:29but I'm going with them. ~ we haven't got MJ two yet on this one,
- 1:16:32have we?
- 1:16:32she sa she picked the bombers.
- 1:16:34Here's her note. Riding that momentum train and they have Zack,
- 1:16:38Demski and Brady, and Tommy actually s was calling run plays last game.
- 1:16:42So she thinks that ~ Tommy can keep it going and is gonna pick the bombers.
- 1:16:47she may well be right. However however,
- 1:16:49She may well be right.
- 1:16:51I will say this that the one part of that riders team that's maybe not quite
- 1:16:56as good as last year, but still pretty damn good is against the run.
- 1:16:59And so if Brady doesn't get going early,
- 1:17:02if he does, if they get a run scheme going and he's picking up five plus yards
- 1:17:08consistently in the first quarter,
- 1:17:09then I think that they've got a really good chance and
- 1:17:13that it will be a hell of a game.
- 1:17:15I think that they won't get that early and Condell will bail on it
- 1:17:19and start going to his passing game that he prefers.
- 1:17:22Again, I could be wrong, but that's what I'm going with.
- 1:17:25Toronto at Hamilton.
- 1:17:28I'll let you go first on this one since your Hamilton is your team.
- 1:17:31This is my favorite game of the year.
- 1:17:34This is my favorite game of the year and there is no way the Ti-Cats
- 1:17:40are losing at home on Labor Day.
- 1:17:41I don't care who's playing. I don't care who's starting.
- 1:17:44It's not happening.
- 1:17:47There's something to that. How about MJ two?
- 1:17:49What does she think?
- 1:17:51Ty cats, Argo suck. It's Labor Day.
- 1:17:53Yeah, there
- 1:17:54we go. I'm str my heart wants to say Hamilton.
- 1:17:58It really does. but their defense hasn't played as well lately.
- 1:18:03Labor Day.
- 1:18:04But it is in Hamilton.
- 1:18:05And it's Labor Day. And yeah, I'll go with you guys.
- 1:18:09We'll make it a sweep. We'll
- 1:18:09Yeah.
- 1:18:10say Tiger Cats. Okay.
- 1:18:13Edmonton at Calgary. And again,
- 1:18:16Calgary, I'm assuming VA will probably be back,
- 1:18:19but whether he is or not, I don't know how much of a difference it makes
- 1:18:22in this game. Calgary's got some good stuff going,
- 1:18:26but they're they're way too inconsistent.
- 1:18:30And ~
- 1:18:31I'm going Edmonton.
- 1:18:33so Edmonton's coming off the bye,
- 1:18:35and they are the hottest team in the league.
- 1:18:38Calgary put it together, but I wouldn't say that they put it together against
- 1:18:43a team that's doing well. I hope VA's back.
- 1:18:46But if not, I think Josh Love's looking good with those receivers.
- 1:18:50They seem to be just fine. you know,
- 1:18:52throw the moose little bit more so my kids happier.
- 1:18:55Make my day. I you know, and as an aside,
- 1:18:58the Elks are sending down team buses for the game and they're sold out.
- 1:19:03For the first time in a long in a lot of years.
- 1:19:05So there's gonna be a lot of Elks fans there.
- 1:19:07And I think that that it's just like a momentum is happening in Edmonton finally.
- 1:19:12I'm gonna pick the Elks.
- 1:19:14Okay.
- 1:19:15And how about MJ two, the other MJ?
- 1:19:18She says Elks but the stamps might make it a very close game,
- 1:19:21and I agreed. because
- 1:19:23That sounds good.
- 1:19:24like and Brooks and Brissett can do what Mac can do.
- 1:19:28Like it's just it's Rankin and Mills,
- 1:19:31like it's on paper, these are two extremely well-matched teams.
- 1:19:35Yes. Yes.
- 1:19:36And as much as I don't like the history with Ajou Ajou and that,
- 1:19:42if he's if he learned from his mistake,
- 1:19:44well I guess he's like everybody else,
- 1:19:46he deserves a chance to be in there and he has made them a better team.
- 1:19:48He's been playing well for them,
- 1:19:51especially in the blocking game.
- 1:19:52He got himself that touchdown on the weekend and so But I still think it's Edmonton
- 1:19:57there. Yeah, I d I know we're not talking fantasy anymore,
- 1:19:59but
- 1:20:00I was saying this weekend when I was talking to the family here about my fantasy.
- 1:20:04I feel like I'm channeling the Stampeders with how I'm playing fantasy this year.
- 1:20:09Because my record is below five hundred.
- 1:20:12I believe I'm sitting at six and seven.
- 1:20:15But of the six games that I've won,
- 1:20:17three of them I had the high score in the league for that week.
- 1:20:20so I seem to to waste all my talent in one go and then lose a bunch of close ones.
- 1:20:27It's the most Calgary thing you can do.
- 1:20:29Yes it is.
- 1:20:30Me and the stamps were sympathetical.
- 1:20:34I think that's got us to the end of it.
- 1:20:36Lots
- 1:20:37Yeah.
- 1:20:37of chaos, lots of fun. Thank you to everybody that's ~ joined that's joined
- 1:20:42us lately. You it's been it really was.
- 1:20:44I was I was quite surprised at the number of people that downloaded
- 1:20:50our show on YouTube and Podcatcher last week.
- 1:20:52It was frankly it was about forty percent higher than than what we normally get.
- 1:20:58So thank you. Please come back.
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- 1:21:01please subscribe and keep coming back.
- 1:21:03We're loving doing this. Closing thoughts,
- 1:21:06MJ.
- 1:21:07You know.
- 1:21:07The R Kells once told me that Christmas might as well come on Labor Day,
- 1:21:11and I can think of nothing
- 1:21:12Ha ha ha.
- 1:21:13better to say than that. this is my favorite weekend of the year
- 1:21:16for football besides Grey Cup.
- 1:21:17I this is this is it for me. you can find me over on Instagram,
- 1:21:21trying to not get so posts taken down.
- 1:21:24Ha ha.
- 1:21:26And I'll be over on on Blue Sky at Sports and Plants,
- 1:21:29~ like having fun on Labor Day weekend.
- 1:21:32Yes. I'm out there on almost all the again,
- 1:21:35as we've said before, all the social media except in s the C F
- 1:21:37L outsiders on Instagram, you get MJ there.
- 1:21:39You can get her on Blue Sky. Otherwise at Blue Sky,
- 1:21:42all the rest, Gander, EH! True North,
- 1:21:45whatever. All everything but Facebook is basically
- 1:21:49I run and Facebook we don't bother doing.
- 1:21:51So find me there anywhere. I yeah,
- 1:21:54I dream of the day when we would get a social media reaction that would force
- 1:21:58us to take a post down. It'd be nice to get that kind of attention.
- 1:22:01But in the meantime, we'll just keep doing our blathering.
- 1:22:04Hopefully, we entertain you. We're entertaining ourselves.
- 1:22:06Those are our two main goals. So until next week,
- 1:22:10for MJ, this is old man saying,
- 1:22:12Get the hell off my lawn.