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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back.
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Speaker 2: What's going on?
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Speaker 1: Everybody is Jeff Moser Adam Kaplan, and here we are
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in the IDEs of August. The Eagles are getting close
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to their first preseason game. It's gonna be Thursday night
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against the Cincinnati Bengals. They have had some practices. It is,
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of course Jeff Mosher here with Adam Kaplan, and we
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will go through the last three practices, what we've learned,
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what we know, what we've seen, and then set you
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up for a pretty big week coming ahead of Inside
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the Birds Obviously today Monday for those who are listening
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in the morning, where we have another one. Tuesday, we'll
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have an inside the Data with Sam Finkel. We had
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one last week that was really good. We'll have another
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one this week Wednesday, and then Thursday morning we'll hit
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you with what to look for in the preseason game
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against the Bengals, and then of course we'll have Bengals
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those Bengals preseason wrap up later in the week as well.
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Speaker 2: So are you ready for a big week? Adam?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, this is the first full week of preseason.
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We had an awful Hall of Fame game. My old
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friend Sterling Sharp got into the Hall of fame. That
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was quite essential Sterling. If you haven't seen his speech,
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it was pretty interesting.
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Speaker 2: He is.
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Speaker 3: I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed the boy.
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I work with him two thousand and two. And I mean,
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you're talking about no offense of Jerry Wright is the
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best receiver in NFL history. Had he never gotten hurt
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with the neck injury which ended his career, Sterling probably
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would have been a better player. Now people would say,
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there's no way the numbers were better. You have to
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talk to NFL people. Talk to Mike Hombren, who was
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a co who obviously was on Mike Shanahan's staff, excuse me,
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and Bill Walsh's staff. So he knew about Jerry because
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he was there then, and obviously he coached. He was
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with Green Bay, so he knows. So it's Sterling, wasn't
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he was? And the thing is, if you've seen Sterling
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a close, he's only six feet even, but the biggest
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hands you've ever seen, yeah, from the strangest hands you've
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ever seen. And they played as he told me, he
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played mostly inside. You couldn't cover me.
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Speaker 1: He's too strong, right, yeah, I mean to your point
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at him, and I don't know if you remember Shannon's
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Hall of Fame induction, but in his speech he said,
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he has to be the only player in the Pro
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Football Hall of Fame who's not even the best.
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Speaker 2: Player in his own household.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: So that was a real nod too. Just Stirling and
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how good?
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Speaker 4: You're right?
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Speaker 2: He was so good.
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Speaker 1: It was sort of like the Terrell Davis thing, like
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so good in such a short amount of time.
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Speaker 2: Obviously he came before Terrell Davis, but right he was. Yeah,
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because Sterling Sharp was early nineties.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, well Sterling was done around ninety five
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and l Davis, I believe it as a first round
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in ninety six. I said, know what I remember about
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Charrel Davis is that that the game over Japan when
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he was on special teams, and Mike Shannon said, if
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you want to make a team, do what this guy
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just did. He had an incredible stick tackle on specials.
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Yeah against the forty nine ers, I think, but yeah,
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so start Look, obviously Jerry Rice playing to his forty
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so his numbers probably would have been better overall, but
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the better player, so Sharp was like uncoverable, like he
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just was an amazing play, super smart. John Hanson. We
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were on the Playbook Show, which is a knockoff of
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the Matchup Show in ESPN, and we did a fantasy
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segment and got to know him and Salomon Willcotts, Glenn Parker,
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remember Glenn Parker played for the Chiefs and Giants, but
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learned so much about football. The storytelling just yeah, Stlie
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doesn't hold anything back. He tells you what he thinks,
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learn a lot about football. Really really great situation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a really unique Hall of Fame class.
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I mean, you had Antonio Gates, the first player in
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the history of the game to make the Hall of
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Fame without playing college football.
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Speaker 2: But he did play college fourts. He played college basketball and.
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Speaker 1: He was good, and you know, just watching him become
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a tight end and the Hall of Fame caliber one
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of that was was pretty amazing. And I actually watched
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the Hall of Fame game deep into the third quarter.
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I must have some sick Seriously, I don't know, but
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I did well. Yeah, I was like, oh, Comani Fidal,
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I like, I kind of liked him last year. I
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thought he might get more involved in the offense. But
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the running backs actually stayed fairly healthy for the Chargers,
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and then there were. There are a couple other guys
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I like seeing. How about my guy former Penn stater. Uh,
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he transferred to Auburn KeAndre Lambert Smith.
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Speaker 2: He might be a nice little sleeper. He's got some
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speed at him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he scored in that game. And Isaac Tesla, who
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was a rookie. He had a good game. But I mean,
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I know receivers coaching game is the third round grade
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six round gred. He could not believe that that the Lions,
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I think third Uh. And then uh, Craig Reynolds, who
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we met at it's from here and went to Bloomsburg.
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He went to Adamton High YEP near me where I
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grew up in Cheltenham. There were a rival. Yeah, and
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then a Marion Hampton, the first round pick for the
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Chargers played. So that was good. And Trey Lance. It's funny.
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I forget who it was funny, I forget who posted it,
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but it's so true. A lot of us probably forgot
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Trey Lances with the Chargers, so now we know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely did.
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Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see if this latest iteration of
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coaching staff for him can make him into it. They
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were making a big deal over how Harbaugh has been
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so good with like Kaepernick and other Alex Smith coaches
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who have mobility and and I'm like, this guy was
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drafted by the forty nine ers. I mean, there's very
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few coaches better than Shanahana getting the most out of
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a quarterback. And then he went and was with the Cowboys, right,
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wasn't he with?
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Speaker 2: Uh? Was not not with Kellen Moore? But was Shottenheimer?
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I guess.
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Speaker 3: No, No, no, he was with No, he was with
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well shot well yeah shot he technically.
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Speaker 2: That was just part of his position coach.
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Speaker 3: All right, Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I'm just saying about calling the plays. It was McCarthy
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after Kellen, remember he yeah, like Longo and then he
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Kellen went to San Diego or excuse me, LA with
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the Chargers. Right, but anyway, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: What is he's been He's been around some pretty good
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offensive minds.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you.
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So a couple of things. Yeah, We've actually have Roundtable
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which will drop Tuesday with Andrew Andrews back with us
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Speaker 1: All right, great stuff, Adam. Let's start with because we
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are now I believe eight practices through eight. When I
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say eight practices, I mean media open. They're practicing no
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walk I'm not counting the walkthroughs. Eight practices through and
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we've got some injuries to talk about now. Ben Van
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Sumarin has been out for a couple and that that
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was the result of a honestly, probably shouldn't have happened,
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but Jehad Campbell knocked him to the ground a little
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bit and he I saw it. I didn't see the
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actual collision because there were too many bodies, but I
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saw him get up and start limping off the field
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and looked great. But I don't think it's gonna be
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anything really really long term. But he continues to be
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out with the ankle injury.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he took metal reps on Sunday. I was watching him.
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This one's disappointing because he has been a very quietly
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star of like three practice Montreal Johnson, Yeah and directed
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free agent out of Florida c This is the thing
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with him. If you're non drafted free agent, you could
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be lighting up. But if you don't, if you can't
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get on the fields, particularly for the preseason, it's not impossible.
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It's very difficult to make the team. So he's got
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a hamstering injury. He took mental reps. I saw him
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number thirty four. So what I do is I scan,
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you know my lineup sheet. Okay, who's not working? Who's working?
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But what are they actually doing or are they out
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there watching? What are they doing? Aj? Now we know
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AJ Brown who didn't work the second half of Friday's practice.
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He's got a hamster injury. He was out there, he
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got out there after practice started. Terres Marshall with the knee,
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Trevor Keagan with a back. When I was watching the
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drills on Sunday, he was taking metal reps number seventy seven. Well,
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you gotta call him now not just a guard. He's
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getting reps set Ye zach Baum with a back contusion.
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Who was I watched him. He was taking shadow he
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was he was moving, just taking shadow reps, like just
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moving around a little bit. Everybody loosen the backup. Lewis
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cne Now it's got the hamstring. He's a major long
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shot to make it. I'd be shocked if he made it.
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He hadn't stood out and.
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Speaker 1: He had actually gotten some second team reps I think
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in allday four and then all of yeah, yeah, he hasn't.
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Speaker 3: Really stood out. Mac McWilliams, who, by the way, you
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can't just call him a nickel. He's actually got cornerback
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reps where you have to always remember Vic Fanger was
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very distinctive with this. Corner is a corner and Nichols
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the defensive back. They're two different positions. And he's done.
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He's got reps at both. He's played cornerback. He's got
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a quadrceps. I saw him out of practice limited DeVante
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Smith's back from the back tightness. They're not. Now here's
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the cool thing. He got work immediately and he made
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plays immediately. And it's funny because I'm like, wait a minute,
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is that Because you know it's hard when they're wearing
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the green jerseys. It's hard to see is that eight? Well,
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can't be eight? Is that guy's on defense? That's the
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joy Jackson. It's got to be six. And DeVante made
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some really good place good see e J. Jenkins back
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out there with a hamsterring at shoe. Charlie Hewlett, their
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long snapper's got a net issue he got he was
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limited Noland Smith because he's coming back from concussion. Didn't
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work very much at all. Barely saw him. John Candell
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come Ghod Campbell coming back for the label surgery. He's
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I mean, I if he's if each practice they have
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forty reps, he's getting thirty of them because he's practicing
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a lot at least. Like it's funny because they pretty
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much played with bought out. They play the same two
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guys with the ones. Yeah, it's Campbell at will and
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it's Trot Junior as the mic yep and Drew mccooba's
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back from the shoulder. They're not give him a ton
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of reps because he's coming back from that shoulder ding.
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So you gotta be you gotta be careful of that.
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See here's the problem with I'll be interested to see
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if Sirianni is willing to answer the this question, are
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they gonna expose Campbell to preseason because he's coming back
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from major shoulder surgery, I'd be stuck.
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Speaker 2: I'd be I'd be pretty shocked. I think I think
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he'll play in a preseason game. I just don't think
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it'll be the first one.
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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. The following week they've got two
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joint practices versus the Browns. Yep, because clubs look at that.
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That's why a lot of veterans don't play now, because
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they've got the pre the the joint practices, and so
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that that's the everyone else's back the one that's disappointing. Really,
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it's also Taris Marshall, who's it was. He He was
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the best backup receiver, and that's It's not a knock
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going to logic. Cook has been a nice story. But
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Taris Marshall showed up at every practice, and I like
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the way if they used him moving him around a
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little bit. But yeah, he he's just stop working and
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he's got this knee issue that from last week.
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Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to as we go through these injuries, you know,
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Blonde's been out for a little bit with that back intusion, but.
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Speaker 2: He's been out there. Sometimes you don't see guys and
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they're really hurt.
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Speaker 1: They're working with trainers inside, so he's and in fact,
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I think most of these guys have been out there watching,
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like you said, getting the mental reps. So none of
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these seem like some really bad You know, I'm speculating
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a little bit here, but you can tell when you
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don't see a guy for a couple of days because
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he's inside.
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Speaker 2: That he's not even shape. And it doesn't seem like
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that's the case with too many of these guys here.
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Speaker 3: No, they're all out there. No. In fact, I'll take
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this to another level. Typically when they're not out there,
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they're getting treatment. They're in the training room, Like if
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it's a knee injury, it might be iced about whatever
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they used to get the knee going. Yeah, I didn't
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I didn't see tar Small shout there. He might have
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been out there, I just didn't see him. And then
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and aj Brown came. He might have been getting treatment
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in the Hampshire because he wasn't there at the startup practice,
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but he was there shortly after wearing a sweatshirt then
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he took it off. You know I noticed this this
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meaningless stuff, don't but yeah, I just looked at my
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notes here and I'm like, okay, you know, I have
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like three pages of notes of afformations and there's something
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that I noticed. I knew this is. I saw it
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last week. I forgot to mention it. When we get
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to what we saw, what we've seen through eight practice
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and we move we move stuff along. We'll talk about
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a couple of minutes. But transactional wise, Danny Gray, as
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I expected to happen, was waived off IR with the
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injury settlement, as was Marcus Tate, who's come back from
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a major knee injury from college at Clemson. And you're
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not going to pay a guy when you're on IR,
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you get paid, Like if he was on IR during
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the season, Ady Gray would get paid. They're not going
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to be obviously not gonna pay because he's not going
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to contribute. So but with injury settlements, you could come
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back in around two months. It's whatever the settlement in
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terms of time has to elapse. It's what the agreement
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is between the agent and the club and what the
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doctor gets. How long they say he's going to come back,
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so it's typically around two months, depending on the severity
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of it. So it's a shame, man. He I know,
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he talked a big game and he had a really
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good off season, but just unfortunately he's didn't contribute with
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the Niners really because he was hurt.
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Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, yeah, I hope, you know, for for his sake,
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you hope that he heals up quickly and then can
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come back and then sort of prove himself.
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Speaker 2: You can still prove yourself like.
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Speaker 1: He did last year on the scout team in practice
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and if injuries happened or if there's a spot that opens,
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you can still claim it.
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Speaker 2: It just would have been.
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Speaker 1: Nice to see him get the entirety of training camp
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and not be injured to show that sure.
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Speaker 2: All right, you had some workouts, right you noticed?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, here are the four workouts they've had since the
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start a camp. Colton Dowell Colton Dowe is a tall
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receiver just under six to three. He was drafted by
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the Titans of the seventh round a couple of years ago.
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He did an aco injury two years ago, so this
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is the kind of guy you want to work out
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because he was a drafted player. Then two out of
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three defensive tackles they signed, one is Joe Evans. Joe
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Evans was let's see, was he an undrafted free agent
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this year? Yes, at a UTSA. I was with the
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Colts in their off season program. Then cut. And then
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Jacob Sykes, who I did see him on Sunday wearing
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ninety seat. It's funny. He had an interesting body types,
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so I'm like, wait, is he I had to look
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at my lineup sheet. I'm like, oh wow, because he's
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six two and a half and under two ninety right,
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so I'm like, okay, he's one of those tweeners. So
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he's he's lining. He did line up. He's a little
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bit older. He actually has been the league since twenty three.
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He was he was signing as a undrafted free agent
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by the Seahawks in twenty twenty three, but he had
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bounced around. I believe he was in the UFL or
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whatever they call it, the USF. I don't know how
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they call the USFL. But the Eagle sign him right
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to start a camp and that's it so far.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other guy, Evans is completely opposite. He
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is like three hundred and thirty seven powder he's a
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big dude. He's like a nose tackle type if if
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you can compare it by size, Yeah, yeah, I've been
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six seven.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's it's funny because he's wearing sixty one. Immediately,
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who do I think of? Who is the who is
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the center that the Eagles signed from? And he turned
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out to be a bust freagent guy, the long blonde
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hair from Michigan.
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Speaker 2: Christy No, no, no, no, he was.
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Speaker 3: With the he was with He's sign a big free
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agent deal.
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Speaker 2: Steve.
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Speaker 3: Oh. I could see him in front of me, long
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blonde hair, looked like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the nineties, right, No, it would.
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Speaker 3: Have been early in Andy's career. You're in the right timeframe.
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I think it was like everybody everyone's saying this, says, hey, listen, dude,
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it's Stevett, Steve Everett, Everett. You got it good? Yeah,
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y y y yeah yeah yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. He was a straight up dude.
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Speaker 3: Though. He was a straight up dude like he uh he.
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I remember he was really good with the media, but
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he just was not quite what they thought when they.
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Speaker 2: Got that's true, all right, good stuff.
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Speaker 1: Uh So those are the transactions and workouts and things
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like that, let's get through what we know now after
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this is really the second week of practice. We just
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had the first I'm sorry, second full week of practice.
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Speaker 3: That the first full week. The first week was only
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three days, this was five.
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Speaker 2: This week. No, this past week though, was the first. Yes,
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the first, that's what I meant.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm meaning this one we're going into now
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is just gonna be is gonna be the second week,
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second full week of practice, although I guess it's not
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really fool because.
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Speaker 2: They have for the preseason games right correct, because they Wednesday.
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Speaker 3: The way it works is today, Today's practice will be normal.
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Tuesdays will be light like a Friday practice. Wednesdays will
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walk through. Thursdays of the game, they can't practice, Yeah,
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they can't practice Friday. By rule, you can't practice the
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day after, although Chip Kelly would try it. Yeah uh
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so yeah, yeah. So this is this past week. They
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had five practices plus the walk through the one day
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off on Saturday. It was beautiful on Sunday, I'll say,
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and so is Saturday. But so here's what we do
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know for Like I, as I said last week, let's
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wait till we get through the first full week before
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we start making proclamations. We could definitely make some proclamations.
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They know who they're starting. Eleven is on offense.
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Speaker 1: That's not yeah, and like that. That's to the point.
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Tyler Stein is one. I mean, it's not even a secret.
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Tyler Steen is the right guard. Jeff Staltlin is talking
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about how impressed he is. Jordan Davison, Jial and Carter
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have talked about how how impressive Tyler Steen has been. So,
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I mean, he's been the first team right guard. There's
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no injuries, he's not losing it, there's nobody pushing him
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per se. So he is you know, your first week
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one Thursday night against the Dallas Cowboys, Tyler Steen will
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be starting at right guard, barring any injury between now
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and then.
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Speaker 3: Correct. Yeah, well it's funny you say that. Here's here's
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my question. Let me throw this back at you. What
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do you think they would do if Stein got hurt
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for two weeks? And who do you think would run
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with ones?
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Speaker 2: It's a great freaking question.
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Speaker 1: I think if they had to put a right guard
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in right now, it will probably be Matt Pryor.
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Speaker 3: That's where he's going to go. It's not Drew Kendall.
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I haven't seen him a guard at all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cadart's got some work in there, but Prior's ahead
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of him, and Prior's got positions for versatility.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm starting to wonder, Well, when we get
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to offensive line, I'll talk about this.
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Speaker 2: I think that there might be doing something a little
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differently this year, and we'll get into that.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, as of now, it would be Tyler Steen
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and looks like next man up would be Matt Pryor.
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Speaker 2: So yep, running back.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think we're far enough along now where
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we can at least be pleased with aj Dillon's practices.
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He's not been hurt, and I think he was on
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the he had a back for one day or something
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like that, but basically he's been fine and giving him
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the ball, I'm seeing him run.
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Speaker 2: I think he actually looks like he's got some good
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juice for guys his size. For his size, he's not
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like Will Shipley or anything, but no, he's moving well.
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When I say juice.
18:34
Speaker 1: I saw one play where he kind of did a
18:35
cut back and got skinny through a hole, so I
18:38
was I was impressed.
18:39
Speaker 2: With that, and that's good.
18:40
Speaker 1: We wanted to see at this point Adam if he
18:43
was still practicing and the neck was holding up and
18:46
everything like that.
18:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, but it's funny. See, you can't if
18:51
you know what's from going to practice when you when
18:53
the practices on the Let's say, like I stood on Sunday,
18:57
I was behind one of the I was behind the
18:58
goalposts right in front of the you know the stands
19:02
that are in the back where, and he wouldn't let
19:03
anyone sit or put their hand on the rail. And
19:06
I get screamed at, hey, get your hand off that rail. Yeah,
19:08
now everybody's on it. But yeah, they want people to sit.
19:11
It's funny because they don't want to block use. But anyway,
19:15
so I couldn't quite see that it's either twenty six
19:18
or twenty nine. Mike, Yeah, I know who it is.
19:20
Look at the thighs, the quads, Zilla, Yeah, it's obvious
19:24
because and also Barkley Dylan had the the he had
19:28
his the the pants higher where Barkley hatt was wearing.
19:35
I don't know what he was wearing underneath him, but
19:36
you could you could see that. But the big thing
19:38
is that Dylan's quads are huge. So but and obviously
19:42
the way that they move. It's funny because when I
19:45
was watching Goddard and Harrison Bryant because it's eighty five
19:48
and eighty, and I go, I know that's Goddard because
19:49
the way he's moving. Yeah, it's not even close. No
19:51
offense to Harrison Bryant, but Goddard, we'll get the tight end.
19:55
You just I know he can't get the ball out
19:57
because Brown and Smith are going to lead them. But
19:59
my guy, there's second straight cannon training camp. I've never
20:02
seen anyone cover rather than Rego made it. Made it.
20:05
We'll talk about later. Ringo made a nice play. But
20:07
there's you need to know the background on it. But
20:10
it's just kind of funny because it's it's it's if
20:14
they didn't have Brown or Smith, he's an eighty catch,
20:17
easy eighty even. You know, even if it only plays
20:20
four games, I mean fourteen games, it's gonna average five
20:23
catches a game if if they if one of them
20:25
couldn't play the season. That's the way it is.
20:27
Speaker 2: That about it.
20:29
Speaker 1: So I guess with the running backs to put a
20:31
ball on that. I mean, if things continue along this trajectory, Adam,
20:34
it would be all I think all three are fine
20:37
for the fifty three, that's obviously Saquan, it's obviously Will
20:39
Shampley and still in and and they'll just I asked
20:43
Jamal Singleton about if they if they he felt they
20:46
needed someone one person to take on that Kenny Gainwell role,
20:52
and he said, as long as you have multiple backs
20:55
who can do different things, you can you can work around.
20:58
Speaker 2: You don't need a carbon copy.
20:59
Speaker 1: But he say he felt Will Shipley's pass protection had
21:02
come along well and he catches the ball well, so
21:04
that would be.
21:06
Speaker 2: Ideally that's a guy who can probably fill that role better.
21:09
Speaker 1: And then Dylan serves that, as you've talked about many times,
21:12
and I think you're right about this is you're the closer.
21:15
Speaker 2: You're up by seven, you're up by ten or a
21:17
lot more.
21:17
Speaker 4: Now.
21:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that's what John G.
21:21
Speaker 3: Filippo told me. He said, it's got to be more
21:23
than two touchdowns and then you could pull the starter out.
21:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't want to take say Kwon Barkley out
21:27
if you're.
21:27
Speaker 3: Like, can you imaginef it's only ten points. No, you've
21:29
got to be more than two touchdowns. It could be
21:31
sixteen seventeen. I just happened to ask him, I said,
21:35
what's your role thumb I because I've never really configure
21:37
I can never quite figure it out. Because you want
21:39
to be up by more and two touchdowns and you
21:40
can pull the starters out, well you're running back if
21:42
you want to protect them. He'd be smart about it.
21:44
But I would say with this, I'm not. I know
21:48
Dylan has taken more of the twos. That's definitely the case.
21:51
But you mentioned it earlier when you were talking about Dylan.
21:55
When you see the difference between Shipley and Dylan, Dylan's
21:58
got the juice. Dylan doesn't have any Shipley cuts. Yeah, yeah,
22:02
it's and oh. Situationally, on Sunny's practice, Barkley was the
22:06
hurry up for just about everything that I saw, because
22:10
because Sirianni would take the bullhorn all right, very calmly,
22:14
three minutes left, started to twenty, you know whatever, and
22:19
whatever else he said. But clearly Barkley was in a
22:22
lot of it. Like I know Shipley I saw last
22:25
week or a couple of practices, he was a little
22:27
bit of the hurry up, particular in the twenty inside
22:29
of the twenty Situationally, Dylan, there's no way he's in
22:33
no way, so something to watch, That's what I mean.
22:38
How there could be different roles if you're trying to
22:41
figure out for fantasy people know who's the main backup.
22:44
I the one thing I questioned with Shipley is what
22:46
the scouts question people who work for NFL team's question.
22:50
Shipley is not really a volume back, though it might
22:53
say he's two twelve. He doesn't play to his list's size.
22:56
That's a that's a scouting term. He does not, he's
22:59
he he's small on the backside. He's just not built
23:02
like Dylan. Not that anyone is, but you get my point.
23:04
Not built like Barkley, you know what I mean. Montreal
23:06
Johnson is bigger physically by the way. Yeah, yes, yes,
23:10
not wait, I'm talking about frame folks. You understand that. Yeah,
23:13
don't seem to get it.
23:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
23:16
Speaker 1: So that's the running back situation at wide receiver. I mean,
23:19
I don't know if this has stuck out to you.
23:20
Speaker 2: In the game.
23:21
Speaker 1: The days I've been there, they've played a lot of
23:22
twelve personnel. That was so even with Devonte Smith back,
23:27
they're still playing a lot of twelve.
23:29
Speaker 3: Well it's interesting, right, but when they go eleven, there
23:33
are two things I noticed. In fact, they did something
23:35
with twenty one with Fan Suermern. I'll mention in a minute.
23:37
But when they went to twelve, it's yes, well Smith
23:41
was really not practicing, so it was Brown and Dotson,
23:45
and then it was dots. It was Brown and Marshall
23:48
because Marshall's ahead of Cooks and Wilson. And then when
23:52
they went till when they went to eleven, it was Brown,
23:55
Dotson and Annias as the slot received Dodson's the Z,
24:02
Browns the X, and Marshall's a backup X. And then
24:06
what they also did was Smith back on Sunday, which
24:08
is interesting. Well, it's funny both Smith's out there. They
24:11
had Smith. I can't it wasn't even I didn't mark
24:14
down where there was a Z. But Smith a nice
24:16
Smith was reduced as an outside receiver. You can't play
24:21
him on wide splits. You just he's just not gonna win, right,
24:24
And that's that's why he was draft in the fifth round.
24:27
But what they did is it's interesting, this is a
24:30
really cool formation. They had Barkley lineup in the slot,
24:34
Smith as the reduced receiver, and they run. They ran
24:39
both across the middle and Barkley had a nice catch
24:43
and see the traffic with Smith and Barkley come over
24:45
the middle to put who do you cover? Yeah, it's
24:48
just you don't really see that. So I thought that
24:50
was interesting for me.
24:51
Speaker 1: That doesn't that feel like the carryover that they've kept
24:54
from Kellen is that they when I've been there, they've
24:56
played a ton of reduced split alignments. You just don't
24:58
see a whole lot of guys flanked out wide. They're
25:01
usually tighter to line of scrimmage, and they're running those
25:03
crossing routes and they're running those rubs on the left
25:06
or the right side.
25:09
Speaker 2: Good.
25:10
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's predominantly what I've seen, more
25:12
so than your typical like three by one or two
25:16
by two Star.
25:18
Speaker 3: By the way, twenty twenty three, they were so wide
25:20
with their receivers and Doug was late. Doug was late
25:24
in his career at tenure with the Eagles. Ye, you
25:27
gotta have guys you could win on the outside. You're
25:29
gonna play wide splits like you definitely, you know that's
25:33
you gotta be careful. Why do you think Sean McVay
25:36
reduces his receivers because they can't win on the outside,
25:38
true outside. Now he might do with Devanta Adams. Devantae
25:41
could win that on the one playing wide, but you know,
25:44
Cup could win if you play him. It's really hard
25:48
in man coverage to to to press a guy when
25:51
they play inside right. It's really hard, yep.
25:54
Speaker 2: And then you give them a little more. You give them.
25:56
Speaker 1: You create traffic with the rubs and with the crossing routes,
25:59
and if you have guys who can catch the ball
26:00
and get up field like Nikua does really well and
26:03
make contested catches even in windows, then that's.
26:06
Speaker 2: Works to your advantage.
26:07
Speaker 1: So it does look like in the offense, I've seen
26:10
that that's what I'm seeing a lot of this year
26:12
in training camp.
26:12
Speaker 2: Again, could be it's not that different.
26:16
Speaker 1: They did that a lot last year, but it seems
26:18
like it's something that they're trying to carry over and
26:19
keep in the offense.
26:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did some twenty one personnel before Van Sumer
26:23
got hurt with him and Barclay, him and Shipley and
26:27
him and Dylan. And when you do that, you go
26:30
in two backs, you know, two tight ends and one receiver.
26:34
You know, however you want to or twenty two personnel
26:36
is the other thing which I just mentioned, But the
26:40
twenty one personnel is what the The Niners do a
26:43
ton with Kyle Uschek and with McCaffrey, because you want
26:47
to have two backs in there, and it works. But
26:51
the difference is you Shuck doesn't really catch the ball
26:53
as much as you would think. I'm surprised you eat well.
26:56
Obviously McAffrey he's not gonna catch the ball a lot,
26:58
but east Chuck was a tremendous athlete come out of Harvard,
27:02
but he's too short to play tight end. So I
27:05
give them credit. It worked at moving them to full back.
27:08
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this about tight end.
27:11
Speaker 1: Were you the one that when we did the pre
27:13
roster fifty three man at one point just kept too.
27:17
Speaker 2: Either you or Andrew did just I don't know either way.
27:20
Speaker 1: I think I feel like if the Eagles had to
27:23
make their fifty three right now, knowing that, what you
27:25
can do on the practice squad to keep guy, I'm
27:28
not sure anybody at tight end other than Goddard and
27:30
Calcutara make it because and again we're early. I'm not
27:33
making any declarative sentences. We're just saying through this point
27:36
in training camp just haven't seen much from Kylie. Granton's
27:42
shown me a little bit, but he had a bad
27:43
end zone drop. But it's not like he's getting open
27:45
left and right either.
27:46
Speaker 2: Bryant. I barely see catching passes.
27:48
Speaker 3: EJ.
27:48
Speaker 1: Jenkins has been injured, Like there's just not you know,
27:51
they have all these tight ends that we talked about,
27:53
but the guy's catching passes are the same two guys
27:57
we've scene for the last three years.
28:00
Speaker 3: Nick Mumes is out there, Harrison Bryan isn't. Now, I'll
28:04
say this about Harrison Bryant. He's got three preseason games
28:07
to try to earn a roster spot. But the bottom
28:09
line is Calculatar is still ahead. I'm a little surprised
28:12
no one's pushed him yet. Now again, we've got the
28:14
rest of training camp, pre preseason games, then post training camp,
28:18
the two weeks leading up to the season when sometimes
28:20
guys take a step that the media doesn't get to
28:22
see when they're not allowed in. But I do expect
28:26
to the twenty one personnel, two bats, the two receivers
28:29
on one tight end. Twenty one you'll see that. Twenty
28:32
two you're going to see two as well. Because you
28:36
just mentioned it. They could keep the two tight ends
28:38
and have one or two in the practice squad, which
28:40
is all which is gonna happen. They'll have at least one,
28:42
if not two.
28:43
Speaker 2: So that's that alright, real quick.
28:45
Speaker 1: On the one wide receiver we didn't talk about yet,
28:48
and that's Elijah Woods who continues to make Plase cooks,
28:51
Elijah cooks, I'm sorry. In training camp, big receiver comes
28:56
down with the ball, started to run a little bit
28:57
with the twos. Obviously, some of that is because they've
29:00
been they've had you know, Marshall out and DeVante out,
29:03
so it helps.
29:04
Speaker 2: But he actually he deserves the opportunity. He's making some plays.
29:08
What what's your read on that right now?
29:10
Speaker 3: So his knock from what I understand is that he
29:14
is trouble separating. Oh that's that was his problem. He
29:16
ran in the four four five's when he was signed
29:20
a center track for agent by the Jaguars. Right. But
29:23
and but here's what I love about this guy. His
29:26
effort is clear and he look, he gets he knows it.
29:31
When you're an hundred, when you're a guy that's now
29:33
on a second team and you've been cut before, you
29:35
got to bring it. And he's bringing it and he's
29:39
showing up and he makes more plays than Johnny Wilson does.
29:43
And that's the bottom line. Johnny Wilson is off scholarship.
29:46
He's he Now he's got to he's got to earn
29:48
this rushers. But you can't make the rosters because you
29:50
can block. Yep, we know they're running team. But log
29:54
of cooks out beerformed him. So we'll see what happens.
29:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm starting to get some Hank Basket vibes from
29:58
mister miss knock catches and you know, now he doesn't separate,
30:05
but he can he can out jump.
30:08
Speaker 3: I would say Hank Basket was the biggest surprise that
30:14
I've ever seen a receiver.
30:16
Speaker 1: He made like he made like five catches a practice.
30:20
Speaker 3: It was one of these like is this ever gonna stop? No,
30:24
But what happens is because it's Triple A, it's not
30:26
the majors. Majors don't start till they don't start all
30:29
the regular season. He just became he became a blow
30:32
average player once the regular season started. That's why you
30:35
got to take it for what it is. Yep, there's
30:37
zero guarantee you guys can do it in the regular season.
30:39
He couldn't do it.
30:41
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, We'll continue to like kind
30:43
of monitor. We'll see how he does in the preseason.
30:45
I think it's gonna be no matter what he does,
30:47
it's gonna be tough for him to make the fifty.
30:50
Speaker 2: I'm not much special teams. He's going to be.
30:52
Speaker 3: Yes, they both have to prove it on there. Godard
30:55
uh Ringo dig deflec one. But see the pass. It
30:59
was a it's right in front of me. Ringo deflected. Really,
31:03
he just reached over with his left hand easily. But
31:06
the pass should have been farther out from Hurtz out here. Now,
31:09
that's anticipation throw. It's just got to be you know
31:12
what the route is the quarterback, it's got to be
31:14
out here. That's the stuff that reporters don't look for.
31:16
That's stuff I've been taught by for coaches for years.
31:19
Look at where the pass ended up. Then it'll give
31:21
you the answers to the test and why it was deflected.
31:24
Almost always it's that's the reason. Why. Now could a
31:27
guy get there late? Sometimes? Sure, but this has had
31:30
nothing do with lateness. Just had to be out there
31:32
a little bit. But I love the way that Goddard
31:35
through the scene is uncoverable. In fact, out like Ringo
31:38
made to play on him. But other than that, no
31:39
one's covered him. I mean, honestly, he's just he's he
31:41
kind of toys in the defense. It's like, at some point,
31:43
will you guys get physical with him, take him off
31:45
his route?
31:45
Speaker 2: And he's had a great camp. He's really good, crazy
31:49
all right.
31:51
Speaker 1: Last thing on the offensive line, I'm wondering this because
31:53
mostly what.
31:54
Speaker 2: I've seen is Kendall Lamb running with the.
31:57
Speaker 1: Two's that left tackle I've seen running with the two
32:01
is on the right side, And I'm just I'm starting
32:03
to wonder because of what they have here, you know,
32:08
do they do they feel like maybe they don't need
32:10
a swing tackle like they had at Fred Johnson, Meaning
32:12
like if a left tackle gets hurt, did they just
32:15
play Kendall Lambat left tackle for right tackle gets hurt.
32:17
Speaker 2: Did they just play Canard or Matt pryor there. I
32:20
wonder if they just don't view.
32:22
Speaker 1: These guys yet as having the optionality that they have
32:25
with Fred Johnson, so that they just they just used
32:28
one or the other might be.
32:30
Speaker 3: I mean, Miles sentence just not ready. He's not ready.
32:32
To be the swing tackle, which he probably will be
32:34
in a year or two, maybe the swing tackle kenn
32:37
Of Lambs on a one year deal. Yeah, and we didn't.
32:40
I haven't really seen him. Did you see him playing tackle,
32:44
Matt Pryor, I.
32:44
Speaker 1: Forgot, Yes, I saw him play some right tackle because
32:48
Lane john the last practice I was at, Lane Johnson
32:50
got like a couple of player him and Dickerson.
32:53
Speaker 2: We're just getting plays off like sort of like maintenance stuff.
32:56
Speaker 1: And so there was one point where the right guard
32:59
was seen, the left guard was Toath, the center was Jurgens,
33:05
and the right tackle was Prior.
33:07
Speaker 3: Okay, that's curious.
33:09
Speaker 2: So that and that's that's when I saw.
33:12
Speaker 1: That is kind of when I wondered if maybe they're
33:14
less inclined to have a quote unquote swing, if they
33:16
don't feel like either of those guys and just happen.
33:18
Speaker 3: I never thought that's a very fair point. That that
33:21
you got me thinking that that's what we'll be looking
33:23
for when we when we go back.
33:24
Speaker 1: But that's that, Yeah, all right, so that is our offense.
33:29
Of course, you know, we'll have a ton of stuff
33:31
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33:32
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Speaker 1: The defense man, we've been talking d line a lot, uh,
34:45
and I'm observing and clearly Morojomo is a guy that
34:50
we you know again, he's he's got some really good
34:55
skill set. His long arms, to me, are a real asset.
34:57
The way he uses his hands, good feet. I mean,
35:01
he really can step in there and be a good player.
35:04
But I also have noticed, I think you have two
35:06
that looks like those those two second year guys who
35:09
came over last year in different ways, Gabe Hall and
35:13
Byron Young.
35:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some opera.
35:15
Speaker 2: They're getting some opportunities here to show themselves.
35:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, Byron Young got work with the twos on Sunday.
35:20
Gabe Hall is getting some work with the twos and threes.
35:23
Moro Joma, I got to some sums. I'm just gonna
35:25
use it because I think this is the best way
35:27
to look at Maro Jomer number ninety seven. Why he's
35:29
so good, he's super slippery. He just has away because
35:34
he's long as the the lineman will try like in
35:37
this case, he's lining a lot. He's he's lining over
35:41
Stein quite a bit, not all the time, but a
35:42
lot over stein Stein doesn't you got it with Dujoma
35:46
because he's got long arms. You've got to get him
35:48
before he gets gets past you. He's just slippery. H
35:51
He's got great that great first step at the edge.
35:55
It's interesting. I would, I would, I wasn't totally charting it.
35:59
I know that Oje technically got the first snap, but
36:02
got a got more snaps with the ones than Oji
36:05
on Sunday, particularly over the last three or four practice,
36:09
it seems like is ahead of where Ojeli got all
36:14
the work with the twos, Like he not all, but
36:16
he got a majority of them the twoes the first
36:17
three days. That's why we say we don't make any
36:19
statements about after the first week of practice or first
36:22
three days, which is the first week of practice, because
36:24
they they started late, because you need you need time.
36:27
You got to see how there's still on the when
36:29
we get to the secondary, there's still a lot of
36:32
there's still a lot of working and other guys in
36:34
the secondary. But you know what I did see Sunday,
36:37
I saw twice where they shifted the defensive line late
36:39
in snap. Okay, pretty cool, Where like Hunt right like
36:46
right before the snap, Hunt moved and the detackle moved.
36:50
Was there a motion I can't remember.
36:53
Speaker 2: I just see a ton of motion. That's I you know,
36:55
I've been talking about that with Andrew and you that
36:58
I've seen not like Shanna hand style motion where there's
37:01
multiple moving parts, but a lot of tight end motion,
37:03
a lot of running back motion pre snap, where do
37:06
you just have a guy crossing the line of scrimmage
37:08
and that's usually where the defensive line will shift, but
37:10
not always.
37:11
Speaker 3: It was cool. I saw a couple of that, So
37:14
that's kind of where it is.
37:16
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you this because I
37:18
have a slight concern that I'm not trying to make
37:20
a big deal of. But like it was around this
37:22
time last year, like when you're you're full, you're about
37:27
eight practices in, you got a preseason game coming up.
37:29
It was around this time last year where all of
37:32
us seemed to observe like that it just didn't seem
37:35
like Bryce Huff was visible enough like making an impact. Yeah,
37:39
and as we sit here today, I cannot outside of
37:43
a little bit of ouch flashes here and there, Jelex
37:46
Hunt here and there. I mean, obviously Nolan Smith was
37:48
out a little bit of the cussion. But I just
37:50
haven't really seen a whole lot of edge rush as
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a group, as a unit, as an individual. And I'm wondering,
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at what point do we get to that point where
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we say this might be a little bit of.
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Speaker 3: A concern, you mean it overall the group?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
38:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, a little flash of Jaylex Hunt
38:08
a little bit earlier in camp, I've seen a little
38:10
bit of not like a time nothing.
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Speaker 2: To be honest, looks.
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Speaker 3: No, looks pretty good. Yeah, he he moves, he's he
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moves what not. I know he hadn't done anything for
38:21
two years. Ojli he's high hipped. If you watch him,
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the way his body is so Ojan Laurie and were
38:30
on special teams watching them run down field. Oj Lari
38:33
has got weird movement because of the way his body
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type is. I have no idea how good he is
38:38
on special teams. But and a conchro is running with
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the third team mostly sprinkle down the second team and
38:46
pal Ryland's ways away from contribute. He'll be I'm sure
38:48
he'll be on the team because he was drafted in
38:49
six round.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And Patrick Johnson, he and o'shawn mathis you get worked
38:55
in again. Depth, as we said for eight years, is
38:57
not about how many players you have. It's about the
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quality of the player. And I think it's fair, like, no,
39:03
you don't need to have an elite edge rusher to
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have a really good group that that's not necessary, but
39:07
it would be nice to have. You just have to
39:09
have a couple of guys are good. I'm not sure
39:11
how good of an edge rusher, just.
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Speaker 2: Not that that's a good point.
39:15
Speaker 1: And he is admitted he's working on a lot of
39:17
things like hand usage. Now there's tape on him. Uh
39:20
so people know what his strengths are right.
39:22
Speaker 2: Now and knows his weaknesses are.
39:24
Speaker 1: So and again this we're early, but it's fair because
39:27
we brought it up last year about Bryce Hoff it
39:29
turned out to be right, and I haven't I've seen
39:31
nothing from Oli yet. Now I know he's a good player,
39:34
so I'm not worried about it. It's not like I
39:36
think it is all a suddenly going to go and
39:38
not be a good pass rusher.
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Speaker 2: He can win one on ones.
39:41
Speaker 1: But as I'm not looking at one individual, I'm just
39:44
looking as a whole and saying, yeah, I.
39:45
Speaker 2: Don't feel like the quarterback is fedge pressure of this camp.
39:48
Speaker 3: So I would agree with you. Now there have been
39:51
some where like if the first three days the offense
39:54
was way ahead of the defense, and the defense kind
39:56
of it's taken over to a degree.
39:58
Speaker 2: Yep.
39:58
Speaker 3: And obviously a j Brown out pract cause saying DeVante
40:00
Smith not practice it doesn't help, Yep, that's a big deal.
40:05
But yeah, I would say the d line is really good,
40:08
like in terms of the Ojomo Davis, Davis slim down,
40:12
he looks better. Carter got work with a lot of
40:15
work on Sunday. That was good to see. Probably we
40:18
met Byron Young and gave Hall's finally coming on. But
40:21
they Now I would also caution Nold Smith did not
40:24
do well in the training camp, didn't do well in
40:26
the preseason. We would laugh when he played against Baltimore, like,
40:28
oh my god, why is the starter playing in the
40:30
preseason Old Smith tape? As Greg co Sol told us
40:34
when we got notes from Greg Is that Smith could
40:37
win against backups, We're like, oh my god, what like
40:40
are they gonna get this wrong? And then he did
40:43
something like you don't normally see this a guy all
40:45
of a sudden shows up like four or five games
40:48
in the regular season. Wow, where the hell's has been
40:50
for a year and a half? Right, you never know,
40:52
never know, never know?
40:54
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we talked about the linebackers already with
40:56
Campbell is playing the will and Trotter is playing them like.
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Speaker 2: Mondon has been getting in there. I like Mandane's athleticism.
41:03
I like his instinct. He honestly sort of blends.
41:07
Speaker 1: Trotter and Campbell, Whereas Trotter is not the great athlete,
41:10
but he's played the position.
41:11
Speaker 2: For a while. Campbell is only new to the position
41:14
for a couple of years, but as a great.
41:16
Speaker 1: Athlete, where Mandan has played the position and is a
41:19
good athlete, and he kind of blends both. So I
41:22
know you remember you always talk about how in twenty
41:24
seventeen you you promised people the Eagles would not be
41:27
embarrassing anymore seventeen I'm sorry, twenty twenty three, I mean right, No,
41:33
twenty twenty two when they went to the Super Bowl.
41:35
Speaker 3: Yes, that was the linebacker, right yeah, with t J. Edwards,
41:38
And you have a good memory. I do remember it
41:39
because we were at training camp. I'm like, I can't
41:42
believe it. They actually might be a competitive linebacker.
41:44
Speaker 2: This is back news.
41:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel I feel pretty good that this
41:48
might be the And again, take this with a grain
41:51
of salt, because we're talking about the Eagles maybe the
41:53
best overall collection of stack linebackers they've had in quite
41:58
a bit. I'm not saying they're they're In fact, I'm
42:00
not saying that you can't find holes in their game
42:03
and they you won't be able to throw on them
42:05
or anything. I'm not saying anything other than there's really
42:07
good athleticism, there's good instincts, there's good understanding of the position.
42:11
Speaker 2: We didn't even talk about Zach Bond being part of that.
42:13
Speaker 1: He's an All Pro. It just feels like this is
42:15
their deepest and most talented set of stack linebackers in
42:19
a while. But that's also a low bar for the Eagles.
42:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the low bar's gone. It's really star with TJ.
42:28
Edwards rise, you know. Yeah, there's an intrector free agent
42:32
and Bond and Nakobe before he got hurt, was borderline
42:36
pro bowler. Bond was, as you said, was our first
42:38
game All Pro trot, as we've noted before, did very
42:42
well in practice last season. Campbell's got a chance to
42:45
be stud Now he's just got a this is he's
42:47
relatively new to inside backers, so he's got to learn it.
42:50
Mondon was telling a guy, so boy that Lance Dixon
42:53
could Lance Sicks and Lance Dickson number forty one, Mason plays.
42:57
Speaker 2: He's a pretty good athlete.
42:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a little older because he bounced around from
43:01
school to school. Right, Yeah, I agree, they're they're really loaded.
43:05
They have enough guys right now, even without Bond, They've
43:08
just enough to be able to field three teams.
43:11
Speaker 2: There you go, all.
43:12
Speaker 1: Right, let's go to the secondary. The practice you were
43:14
at on Sunday. Who took the first team reps? Between
43:18
who started off on the first team Ringo or was.
43:20
Speaker 3: It Dorry Derry took a majority of them and Dory
43:23
Jackson Debrie eight?
43:24
Speaker 2: Okay, Ringo.
43:27
Speaker 1: I think the day before this is definitely more of
43:30
a fifty to fifty than it was last year where
43:32
it was over Oh it's.
43:33
Speaker 3: It's Jackson's taken more ones in Ringo, but it's even
43:38
they're not gonna know yet. As a matter of fact, Look,
43:40
I'll say this, and we're going to look into the
43:42
we we we'll go over the free agent list, because
43:45
this has got to be discussed. If someone doesn't emerge
43:47
BV guy and it's clear that the guy's not only
43:50
doing better than the other guy, that he's clear that
43:52
the guy's actually looking pretty good. But if it's not,
43:55
we're going to start looking at that free agent list.
43:56
Then potential for trade is. You don't need thirteen picks
43:59
next year. Nobody thirteen players. This team doesn't need thirteen
44:03
new players last year, you know, at draft picks. So
44:07
that that's George Jackson moves fine, and he could play
44:11
inside or outside. But it's just not good enough right now,
44:16
let's call it like at it, it's just not good enough.
44:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to tell. Let's just camp defense has
44:20
played well. I just think that VIC needs to see
44:24
them play football. I think these you know, we talked
44:27
about this, me and Andrew. I think are me and
44:28
Mike gill in one of the football at fours. This
44:30
is gonna be a year where I think you're gonna
44:32
see potential starters playing in the preseason because VIC doesn't
44:36
know whose starters yet.
44:37
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to play, you might be right,
44:40
and Quille Ringo, you have to play. Jeremiah Trotter junior
44:43
or smile.
44:44
Speaker 1: Mind, you have to play these safeties who are competing
44:48
because you've got to evaluate them.
44:49
Speaker 3: All right. So Sidney Brown is still working with the
44:52
once mccooba's working his way back. He got some work
44:53
on Sunday now because he's had a shoulder injury. Are
44:58
you gonna put him out there the first gonnaut him
45:00
out there Thursday? That's you know that. That'll be interesting
45:02
to see what happens there. He needs the reps, you know,
45:05
he needs the reps. Maxin Hook number thirty seven got
45:08
some second team reps. Nice, Yeah, a little bit, not
45:11
a lot, uh, Andre Sam's there that in Eli Rix
45:14
work with the twos a lot, Yeah, he's He's good
45:17
for him because this staff buried him as soon as
45:19
they got him last year. They buried him.
45:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
45:21
Speaker 3: Chart good for him that he's he's competing for a spot.
45:24
That's a good thing.
45:25
Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's he's practicing well. It'd be interesting.
45:28
Speaker 1: I think the preseason games will be really really good
45:30
for him to really see his development. Nice to hear
45:32
about Maxim Hook getting work with the twos. Obviously, some
45:34
of that is what Macouba being limited and who else
45:38
is out and scene is out there.
45:40
Speaker 3: Right, that's right right, Well, although seeing I know he
45:43
got a little bit of work with the twos, but
45:45
he's worked almost all freeze. Yeah, they were down, they
45:47
were down. They were down too safely, so yeah, that's
45:50
why he got to look there. But look he looks
45:52
the part like he's he's got good size. It's just
45:55
he's not a great athlete.
45:57
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff.
45:58
Speaker 1: The best part is the Eagles practice again today and
46:00
then you, me and Andrew will do another pod after that
46:03
practice and that'll be out Tuesday. So we've man, we've
46:07
been pumping out these great observational podcasts, INTEL based podcasts
46:11
off these practices, and.
46:13
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it.
46:14
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46:16
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