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The Heist of the Century - Buenos Aires Bank Heist · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We often cover murders, kidnapping, sexual assault, survivor stories, and
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  Speaker 1: and robberies are a category of crime that tend to
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  Speaker 1: even to cinema and Hollywood. Today, we'll be talking about
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  Speaker 1: a bank heist that has gone down in history as
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  Speaker 1: the robbery of the century.
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  Speaker 2: My name's Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening to
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  Speaker 2: Oh actually, yeah, good idea. I'm gonna do that after this.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, speaking of after this, we need
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  Speaker 1: to get to this, ready for it? Okay, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to start off painting a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: different picture here before we get into our actual case.
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  Speaker 2: Do it?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So we're starting off with the Romalio bank heist.
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  Speaker 1: It was a robbery in Argentina that went wrong and
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  Speaker 1: ended up in a shootout between the robbers and the police,
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  Speaker 1: a shootout that left one robber and two civilians dead.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I thought you said no one died.
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  Speaker 1: Not in the case recovering. I'm doing a pre set
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  Speaker 1: up with a different case communition. It's all good, okay.
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  Speaker 1: The heist was unsuccessful, but it did represent something the
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  Speaker 1: public's growing dislike and distrust towards the banks in Argentina. Now,
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  Speaker 1: considering there were casualties and a shootout, the response from
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  Speaker 1: the police regarding the situation had been well, quite brutal.
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  Speaker 1: In fact effective, mind you, but brutal. Though they were
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  Speaker 1: successful in stopping the robbery, it left that dark mark
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  Speaker 1: on law enforcement's reputation. But it wasn't enough to stop
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  Speaker 1: a dreamer from dreaming up the perfect plan.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It would be January thirteenth, two thousand and six, when
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  Speaker 1: this dreamer put his plan into action.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is not that long ago, No, it's not. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: It was another bank heist that was inspired by the
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  Speaker 1: one I just talked about, but this time it would end.
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  Speaker 1: It would not end in a shootout. This time they
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  Speaker 1: would be successful, and this time they would get away
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  Speaker 1: without being caught.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: At least that was his plan. Okay, so that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of actually exactly what happened. The police got a call
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  Speaker 1: regarding a bank robbery at Bonco Rio, a bank located
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  Speaker 1: in a very wealthy neighborhood, at twelve thirty eight. The
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  Speaker 1: police were ready to take down the robbers like last time,
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  Speaker 1: though they planned on being a little less aggressive this
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  Speaker 1: time due to the public backlash since the last one.
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  Speaker 1: Four robbers were in the bank with twenty three hostages.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. That's a lot of lives on the line there,
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  Speaker 2: it is. I already have a really quick question, my apologies.
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  Speaker 1: What's up.
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  Speaker 2: They were mad at the police because there was two
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  Speaker 2: civilians that got killed. That's kind of was the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because of the aggression of the police, right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I just wanted to make sure I understood.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because of the force used behind stopping.
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  Speaker 2: The robbery, Okay, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So the four robbers were in the bank, they secured
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  Speaker 1: the entire building. The police surrounded it and covered its
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  Speaker 1: only two exits, the front and the back door, along
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  Speaker 1: with many windows of course as well.
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  Speaker 2: So how could they get out?
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  Speaker 1: Really well, they had over a hundred officers of this
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  Speaker 1: fucking building.
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  Speaker 2: Shit, is that what happens if something else went down
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  Speaker 2: in that city? They're fucked well very much police.
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  Speaker 1: And they even had snipers on building surrounding as backup.
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  Speaker 1: The business they did. They were not wanting to use force,
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  Speaker 1: but they were very well prepared to so through communications,
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  Speaker 1: the officers were going back and forth negotiating with the
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  Speaker 1: robbers inside the bank. One of the robbers who was
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  Speaker 1: using a code name Walter, which I just got to say,
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  Speaker 1: he could have used many cooler code names. Fucking code
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  Speaker 1: name Hawk, I don't know, black, Raven, some cool shit,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but Walter.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, my mind went to Walter White, and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's a good name.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I would have done something cool, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, soaring Eagle.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, poor Walters. I don't know, he's a cool name.
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  Speaker 1: He could have picked something better. It's just it's a
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  Speaker 1: generic name, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: No, I get it, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Call me toy soldier. I don't fucking know. Just something exciting. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: Walter was talking with the cops and they agreed to
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  Speaker 1: let three of the hostages go, starting with a bank
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  Speaker 1: security guard and then a young man, followed by a
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  Speaker 1: young woman. Everything was going well. The cops were happy
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  Speaker 1: that they were managing to start convincing them to let
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  Speaker 1: hostages go, and they were being released little by little,
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  Speaker 1: and even the robbers seemed to be in good spirits.
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  Speaker 2: So oddly enough, I'm very interested that a security guard
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  Speaker 2: was one of the first to go out. Why is that, Well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I almost feel like that person needs
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  Speaker 2: to stay in there and try to protect shit.
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  Speaker 1: Is he going to protect?
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  Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. That just surprised me, like
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  Speaker 2: I would just feel like the random customers would be
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  Speaker 2: going out first.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know exactly how the negotiations occurred that way.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, but yeah, everyone was in good spirits for it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the security guard was quite in good spirits
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  Speaker 1: too getting let out of the building. But everyone was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like happy, it seemed, even though they were
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  Speaker 1: surrounded by over one hundred police officers outside, given to
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  Speaker 1: the point that they actually sang happy birthday to one
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  Speaker 1: of the hostages when they found out it was a
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  Speaker 1: birthday inside.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously, seriously, Okay, this is odd.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, oh, it's your birthday. Fucking happy birthday,
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  Speaker 1: but order.
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  Speaker 2: Them a goddamn cake and the same sentence.
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  Speaker 1: No not cake. But at about three point thirty, Walter
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  Speaker 1: got the police to order pizza for all the hostages
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  Speaker 1: in the bank, as they were all getting hungry.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, I was just making that pizza thing up. No,
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  Speaker 2: we're sorry, the cake thing. But they actually ordered them food.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe they ordered thirty pizzas.
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  Speaker 2: So they're having a pizza party.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty much, and to which the police complied. But not
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  Speaker 1: long after that pizza ordered pizza was order went through,
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  Speaker 1: though things changed. Okay, the robbers fell silent and no
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  Speaker 1: longer were communicating with officers outside.
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  Speaker 2: Uh oh.
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  Speaker 1: It would be seven pm by the time that the
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  Speaker 1: police made their push into the bank to find the hostages.
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  Speaker 1: After a couple hours of radio silence. It was three
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  Speaker 1: point thirty, so two and a half hours of nothing
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  Speaker 1: from these robbers inside, no communication, no negotiations. They tried
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  Speaker 1: phoning them repeatedly, nothing just dead air exactly. So they decided,
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  Speaker 1: we got to make a push, we got to do something,
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  Speaker 1: we got to go in. So they did. They pushed
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  Speaker 1: into the bank, made their way in and found the
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  Speaker 1: hostages and the robbers were nowhere to be found.
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  Speaker 2: That's a long time, though. I just have to say,
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  Speaker 2: it'll be waiting here. And who knows that people were
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  Speaker 2: getting hurt and shit, well, you have.
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  Speaker 1: Like twenty people's lives on the line here. There's no gunshots,
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  Speaker 1: no nothing being heard.
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  Speaker 2: Still, you can die in other ways, It's true, okay,
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  Speaker 2: but so all the hostages are there, no robbers, correct.
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  Speaker 1: And you also have to remember the police are trying
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  Speaker 1: to walk on thin ice here because they're not wanting
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  Speaker 1: to have that public backlash and put people's lives in danger.
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  Speaker 1: So making a push inside could put people's lives in danger.
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  Speaker 2: They are in a tricky position.
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  Speaker 1: So sure, so they went inside, they looked around, they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't find anyone. They just disappeared, along with the contents
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  Speaker 1: of one hundred and forty three safety deposit boxes from
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  Speaker 1: the bank's basement. Oh, one hundred and forty three out
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  Speaker 1: of a total of four hundred safety deposit boxes were
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  Speaker 1: broken into and the contents stolen.
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  Speaker 2: Yikes. I would imagine those would be hard to get into.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they are bank security safety depositbs.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and people store some probably pretty valuables in there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if that was still exist to
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  Speaker 2: this day. Do they?
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  Speaker 1: Oh they do?
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  Speaker 2: Ok? Yeah, I remember my parents having one, but like,
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  Speaker 2: I've never thought to have one of my own. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I don't have anything to store in there that's valuable.
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  Speaker 1: Well, well, we'll get into that a little bit on
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  Speaker 1: why they went for the safety deposit box. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: there was no sign on how they left. The building
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  Speaker 1: was surrounded. Police were perplexed and they're like, how did
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  Speaker 1: they get out? And once it was released that they
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  Speaker 1: didn't know where these guys went, this became known as
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  Speaker 1: the robbery of the century.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, it's like they just disappeared.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and before anyone's thinking, no, they were not hiding
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  Speaker 1: amongst the hostages. Police did check.
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  Speaker 2: I would never even thought of that.
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  Speaker 1: That was my first thought when I was researching holy.
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  Speaker 2: That would be smart, I mean something, someone would give
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  Speaker 2: it away for sure, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Eventually, though, they would discover how the robbers exited the
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  Speaker 1: building and got away. They would discover, in fact, how
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  Speaker 1: everything played out and how these robbers almost got away
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  Speaker 1: with the perfect crime. Let's rewind the clock a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go back to our dreamer who was inspired by
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  Speaker 1: the previous bank robbery. That dreamer was Fernando. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to butcher his last name and I'm gonna try a
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  Speaker 1: rajo Fernando, Fernando, I like that name. He watched televised
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  Speaker 1: recordings of that old bank that he was inspired the
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  Speaker 1: bank robbery, sorry, the Ramagalio bank heist, and his mind
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  Speaker 1: took off. What he really wanted to know was if
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  Speaker 1: there was a way to pull off a bank heist successfully,
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  Speaker 1: And he knew just the person who would potentially be
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  Speaker 1: able to help answer that question, because the previous one
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  Speaker 1: was not successful and did in a shootout robbers got caught. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so his friend Sebastian Garcia Bolster was the one who
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  Speaker 1: he thought would be able to help him answer this question.
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  Speaker 2: And why is that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Fernando and Sebastian first of all, They've been friends
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  Speaker 1: for a long time since high school in fact, so
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  Speaker 1: Fernando knew that he could just ask Sebastian pretty much
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  Speaker 1: just about anything.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: One day, when the two men were spending some time
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  Speaker 1: together in what I imagine would be akin to an
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  Speaker 1: ocean's eleven montage, Fernando ran the idea by Sebastian and
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  Speaker 1: waited to see if it'd stick, and he said, quote,
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  Speaker 1: I would be crazy. It would be crazy to rob
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  Speaker 1: a bank but not leave to disappear through a hole.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he said. But Sebastian didn't take the idea seriously.
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  Speaker 1: He just kind of laughed and agreed. Fernando had a
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  Speaker 1: reputation of being a dreamer. He'd always been a dreamer,
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  Speaker 1: and Sebastian thought that Fernando was just dreaming again, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe he just was lost in another weed induced tangent,
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  Speaker 1: which was normal for Fernando because he had always been
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a free flowing, weed smoking, creative thinker basically,
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  Speaker 1: and recently his ideas had been getting wilder and wilder. See,
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  Speaker 1: Fernando was going through a breakup and Sebastian thought, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that was his latest idea, robbing a bank, and it
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  Speaker 1: was just something that Fernando was using to focus on
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  Speaker 1: while working through his feelings, which I mean is very,
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  Speaker 1: very much so understandable. I mean, how many of us,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: after watching you, said Walter So, after watching Breaking Bad,
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  Speaker 1: were like I should start a meth lab, sell meth.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you one hundred percent were, And I actually thought
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  Speaker 2: you were freaking serious because you're like, yeah, let's just
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  Speaker 2: do it for a few months. And I'm like, that's
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  Speaker 2: not how it works, Like you don't just fucking do
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  Speaker 2: it for a few months.
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  Speaker 1: I'm aware, trust me, Walter White taught me that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but I watched that show and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: what were they dissolving the bodies in?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? It is some form of acid?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, fuck, we need to start buying
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  Speaker 2: just acid randomly, just a store.
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  Speaker 1: We need to stalk this shit up.
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  Speaker 2: And You're like why, and I'm like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: just in case we ever need it.
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  Speaker 1: Seeing that's exactly that our minds just latch onto this
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  Speaker 1: creative idea, whether we're serious or not, and we just
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  Speaker 1: kind of go off like, hey, wouldn't it be cool
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  Speaker 1: if hypothetically Yeah, And that's kind of all I thought
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  Speaker 1: was happening here.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you'd make a lot of money. And lots
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  Speaker 2: of times people you know, they have debt or whatever
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  Speaker 2: they want to pay off, or they want to buy
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  Speaker 2: a vacation home, or they want to do this or that,
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  Speaker 2: and you're dreaming about making big money.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, so that's.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly everyone dreams about making big money.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly it here. The only thing is Sebastian thought
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  Speaker 1: for Nanda was just doing that dreaming. Fernando, on the other.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Hand, like, no, I'm serious.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the truth was much more than just a wild
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: idea induced by the devil's lettuce.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think we generally dream about winning
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the lottery, not necessarily robbing a bank.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: True, but if you have something to influence it, right yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: So anyways, he was serious and if Fernando was ever
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: going to start actually pulling this off, he needed Sebastian's help. Now,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: getting onto why he needed Sebastian's help to start off,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Sebastian was a law abiding citizen, not really the kind
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: of guy you'd imagine wanting to get involved in a
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: wild bank heist. But Fernando did need him. He knew
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: that he could trust Sebastian, for one, to have his
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: back on the job, and he knew that Sebastian had
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the certain skill sets that he would need. And those
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: skill sets were he was a a very good mechanic
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: and perhaps more importantly, b he was a fantastic engineer.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was wondering what kind of skills he had. Okay, yeah, yeah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: those would be ones you'd probably want for this.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. He spent a lot of time, you know,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: building and repairing things like engines, motorcycles, jet skis, coming
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: up with designs for apparently a homemade helicopter.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Even Wow, yeah, that's actually really impressive, no kidding.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I can barely figure out how helicopters fly.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Let alone designing ones, So yeah, no kidding.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Fernando persisted on Sebastian even though he had this rejection.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Fernando in fact doubled down, using the fact that he
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: couldn't get his best friend to join him on the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: heist as a main reason why he needed to perfect
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: his plan to go back to the drawing board make
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: sure he had a good plan before he approached Sebastian.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Again, Wow, he's really not giving up here.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: He's not. He learned anything and everything he could about
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: previous bank heists from any source he could, even fictional ones.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: He watched every movie, documentary, TV show, news interviews. He
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: stayed up for nights on end listening to classical music,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: apparently all along the way to help keep his focus
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: until he had the perfect plan.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Did you have a job? I didn't find that like
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: his job, but I'm also going to have to try that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: So he listened to classical music just kind of stay
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: on track here, Yeah, because I sometimes I'm like, why
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: am I not working? Like I'm just all over the place.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe I should try that.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean a lot of people do focus differently, right,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I know, for me, I put on music lots when
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to focus, like the low fide chill hop
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and shit on YouTube.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Fucking love that that's your classical music.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Well not necessarily, because I do listen to cla classical
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: music sometimes too, Like Frank Sinatra. Yeah, ring, No, I've
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: just lost the lyrics. Fly there we go, fly me
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: to them. I just I listened to Frank Sinatra, but
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know the lyrics for shit. Yeah. So yeah, anyways,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: we all have different things that make his focus for
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: him classical music. Maybe you should try it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I know, well, I'm like, I don't have anything. I
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: got to figure that out. We have drinking that only
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: lasts so long and then you're just like not okay.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: And then you're no longer focused at all at all.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So anyways, Fernando went back to his friend Sebastian. He
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: laid his cards all out on the table and explained
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that he needed Sebastian to be on board so that
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: they could handle this technology side and with the two
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: of them they could pull it off. This time, things
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: went a bit different. Sebastian was listening.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, because he's like, okay, my crazy friend
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Sirius here.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, both of these individuals and their families had
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: They were pretty well off when they were growing up,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: giving a pair of them a good middle upper class childhood.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: But the more recent year, Sebastian's family specifically had started
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: to endure economical pressures. It wasn't there, mind you, I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: mean not really. They, like many Argentinian families, had put
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: their money in the bank, but crashes and corruption had
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: led many banks to closing, and many families were left
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: without their savings dang.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which, yeah, that's hard. So he probably felt like
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: he was a kind of some money back, right, Yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: So this was a hard time. Yeah, it is a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: depression Argentina. Argentina was massive depression. With their currency and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the paeso. At the time, it was about as reliable
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: as a logan Paul Nft pretty much freaking yeah.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah you went there, right, I did.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm really proud of that joke. If
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, If not, it it's funny. Just
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: trust me on that.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Just google it, or should you even google it?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Just don't even it's a whole other rabbit hole YouTuber
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: who's going to court and.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Getting it in some big trouble. Yeah, big trouble.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Pump pump and dump an Nft basically anyways, a fan
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of him, No, not, many people are only twelve year
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: old kids, I think. Anyways, we digress. Sebastian's father and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: grandfather were two of those people who were left financially
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: high and drive from these banks. That's what it's basically
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: trying to get out and say. So, when Fernando laid
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: out his plans, his well thought, oh plans, I should
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: say to Sebastian the second time around, he saw a
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: chance to get even to those institutions who hurt his family.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Just like you say, he felt like he was owed
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: this money. So Sebastian was in, but he had a condition,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: under no circumstances would the heist include guns or any
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: other kind of violence, And then Fernando would have his
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: engineer on board.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: So he agreed, Okay, can I I'm just like, do
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: you have a friend that you would just be able
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: to be like, let's rob a bank? Dude?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Probably you.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Actually yeah, yeah, if you were this detailed and had
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: this thought of and I brought, I might I might
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: actually be into it, which I should probably not admit
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: on here. We're not criminals.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: We're definitely not. But if someone else starts doing a
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: podcast episode on the podcast host who robbed a bank,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you know what happened. Oh my gosh. So anyways, they
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: agreed plans were starting to get followed and they wouldn't
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: be needing guns anyways, they didn't plan on relying on violence.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, I like that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: He told Sebastian that he wanted to dig a tunnel
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: into the bank. That way they could sneak in steal
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the money and use the tunnel to get back out
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: without getting caught or in a gunfight or anything.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Wow, So there was even a long system of storm
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: dream tunnels that they decided they were going to rely
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: on and could use that would lead pretty much right
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: under the bank, and then they could dig from that
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: storm drain tunnel into the bank, so it would only
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: be a short distance. Wow.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's amazing.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There was one glaring problem at this time, though,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the bank's altars. How would they do this without setting
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: off crazy alarms? And then you know the banks being like, oh,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: people are inside and this is exactly where they are
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: people and police rush in, right. That was a big problem.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: So they decided to go on an outside of the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: box answer, but one that's also so obvious. At the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: same time, they were going to pull off the heist
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: during the day when the bank was open and the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: alarm systems were not activated.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so those alarm systems are mostly only activated
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: when they're closed, when no one's there.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I think, like the laser beams shooting around and shit, right, wow,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: security cameras and stuff. Sure, but they're not going to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: have it inside a vault per say, where they're digging.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Huh okay, I like this. This is really thinking outside
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the box. This guy spent a lot of time on this.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Oh they did, they very much, so did so they
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: That was one part of the puzzle solved. But it
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: did also raise a few problems. If they dug tunnel
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: into the bank in the middle of the day, then
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: eventually someone one of the bank workers would bound to
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: notice someone digging into the fucking bank and they would
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: physically raise an alarm, right exactly. But Fernando had a
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: plan for that too, and this is where the true
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: genius of the plan takes place. They would pull off
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: not one, but two bank heists simultaneously in the same bank. Okay,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: do tell one upstairs on the bank's main floor, and
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the second in the basement below.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Okay. And in the basement below, people wouldn't notice.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: That's what they're after, yes, okay, okay. So, after all
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: these problems that Argentinians had going through the banks, most
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: people had taken their money out and exchanged it for
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: other kinds of valuables that they'd trade for things like gold, jewelry,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and they put them where.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: In their fucking safety deposit in the.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Safety deposit boxes, which were stored in the basement, in
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the fucking basement.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Oh shit. But this is kind of sad though, because
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: like these people are well, I don't know, they were
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: already kind of struggling or feeling the depression you said, right,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: or the sorts, and now their valuables are up.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, but no, the bank they chose, as I mentioned,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: but I didn't talk a lot about it. I mentioned
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: this bank is in a very wealthy neighborhood.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, you did mention that actually at the beginning. Yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, So they were pretty sure that most these people
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: were very well off. In fact, like it's surrounded by
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: like golf courses and shit, like, it's very wealthy neighborhood,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: very wealthy bank. So they weren't too concerned, almost kind
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of like a robin hood stealing from the rich, except
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: in not giving it to the port, they're just giving
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: it to themselves.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, So they kind of chose this this bank for
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: a few reasons then, because they knew there'd be a
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff in there that they could take, but
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: then it wouldn't also be affecting these people's lives too much.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Exactly, okay. Yeah, So the plan was while Sebastian was
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: tunneling into the banks, into the basement and breaking into
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: safety deposit boxes, Fernando would stage the distraction heist upstairs,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: pretending to want to steal the cash and the actual
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: money from the bank, keeping the employees stationary so they
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: won't discover what's going on in the basement, and the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: authority's busy, giving Sebastian enough time to actually steal from
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the safety deposit boxes below.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Is there only literally two people involved in this so far? Okay,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: because that's shocking to me if that's the case.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: No, so far, we get more people here. I'm just
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: getting into that. So you're on the right track here.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: So Sebastian got to work planning the whole tunnel thing.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: He'd drive down to the tunnel entrance near the coast,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and under the cover of darkness, he would sneak into
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the drain and head off towards the targeted bank in
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Buenos Aires, and almost a thirty minute walk later, through
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a dark, wet drainage system, he would find his location.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: That's terrifying in itself, isn't it. Ugh Like he never
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: catch me doing that?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And then From there, Fernando got to work on his
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: side of the plants. He knew that if he was
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: supposed to pull off a convincing cover heist, then he'd
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: have to make it look real queueing another Ocean's eleven
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: montage scene. He went to two season bank robbers, a
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: man everyone called Doc and his close associatey Ruben Alberto
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: de la Torre, otherwise known as Beto. So Doc and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Beto had been part of a wild and famous bank
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: robbery scheme stuff in their past. As it is already,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: they were a band of robbers who pulled off heists
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: after heist during the eighties and nineties, most of them
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: quite violent, mind you. But when Fernando went to them
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: with his plan, and with Sebastian's condition that there would
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: be no violence this time around, the pair of them agreed.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Everyone knew that if they managed to pull this off,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: they'd walk away with potentially millions of dollars each. So
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Doc and Bato were just happy to go along with
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: whatever Fernando needed them to do.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I imagine asking them would be a
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: very easy yes of getting their cooperation with this.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Pretty much some old school bank robbers wanted to get
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: back into it. Maybe Yeah, it'd be like twist my
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: rubber arm, go for it.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Holy heck, I cannot believe these people, Like just the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: thought they put into this is unbelievable.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's wild. It's thoroughly thought through.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: And I also have to say, well done with the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: pronunciation here, thank you, you're killing it.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I'm actually just like really impressed with that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Means a lot, thank you. So that was one team sorted,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and Sebastian was working on the tunnel. It looked like
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: all the rest of the crew all they had to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: do was just wait. But that took time, and it
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: also took money, money they didn't really have. Robbing a
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: bank apparently isn't cheap in itself. So Fernando sold his car,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: pored everything he had in keeping the operation afloat, but
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: they would quickly run out of funds.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, that's shocking. They're really invested in.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: This, literally invested.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, huh okay, that's interesting to me that he'd like
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: sell all the shit. Wow.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: So they knew that they needed to get more money,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and they needed to get it from somewhere if they
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: were going to keep at it. He also knew that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: he couldn't exactly go to the bank to get to
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: rob a bank for their money. It's kind of a
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: conundrument itself. There, a little bit of an oxymoron. So
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: he went to the next best thing. Louis Mario vittti cls.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I butchered the last name.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: You jinxed shit I did. That's all my fault.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Salinus, So Louis Mario v the teddy Salanus.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, you got it out.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Louis Louis was another old acquaintance of Doc and another
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: renowned thief himself, and.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: He had some money well.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: In the nineteen nineties and two thousands. Louis would scale
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: apartment buildings mission impossible style, sliding down ropes and breaking
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: into places and stealing thousands of dollars worth of possessions,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: only to spend his earnings, I mean just as quickly
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: on drugs and alcohol. But he had also been caught
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: and arrested. But with all these skills and things he
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: stole and basically a career of it, he did have
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: a small fortune stuffed away still really yes, and he
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: made a comfortable life when he was eventually released from prison.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, so for the most part he had retired from
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the life of crime, but when Doc put Fernando in
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Louis together in the same.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Room, he wasn't retired anymore.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he decided he was ready to come out of retirement.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that just the described description of him gave
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: me like bedroom strangler vibes, but without the strangulation, which
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: is good.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. The whole creeping into apartments.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: And the scaling buildings, you know, love that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Well. Louis may not have been the bedroom strangler, but
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: he did become their investor and the source of their
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: funds for the operation. Okay, So the first thing Fernando
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: did when he got this investor involved and he had
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: some money in hand, was immediately he went to another
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: branch of Banco Rio, the same chain of bank that
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: they were planning on targeting. And this is where even
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: more genius comes in. This is where he rented out
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a safety deposit box.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Oh seriously, yep.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: But the truth was he was more interested in the
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: box itself than story. Yeah, exactly, because he used his
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: time in the bank's basement to learn what he could
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: about the safety deposit boxes themselves, and then he went
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: online or wherever it was he found the source. But
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: he bought the same make and same model of boxes
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: from the fucking manufacturer to bring home and study how
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: he can crack them.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Hey, that's like a kind of genius.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: This is like a real life Oceans eleven.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: It actually really seems like there's a lot of things
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: we're just bouncing off comparisons in this Wow. But it
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: does seem like that, it really does.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: So he then gave those boxes to the engineer Sebastian,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and Sebastian designed a jackhammer like tool after finding out
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the best way to access them to break into these boxes,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and the jackhammer kind of could be easily dismantled, dismembered,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: or whatever you want to say disassembled. Maybe dismembered isn't
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the best way to say it disassembled for easy transportation
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: through the tunnels to bring it to the bank. Okay,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: So with the tunnel built, the tool ready, and their
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: escape plan set, the crew met up to pull off
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the bank heist of the century.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Okay, I'm freaking pumped to see how
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: these fucking pieces are coming together here.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Sebastian. Wow, do you hear my voice crack there?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, quite a bit. We should put all those together.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: And people be like holy. Sebastian went, what's wrong with
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: ben puberty at thirty five?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Thirty four?
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thirty five and in a couple months close enough. Anyways,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: we digress. Sebastian went first, leaving early in the morning
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to head out to the mouth of the storm drink,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: where he would walk to the end of the tunnel
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and wait.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: The rest of the crew stole two cars and drove
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: them to the bank. There, Fernando set up one of
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: them to look like the getaway vehicle, and the others
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: drove a van into the garage under the bank and
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: blocked the entrance. Fernando, dressed in a disguise, only just
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: about made it into the bank before the rest of
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the crew pulled out toy guns and told everyone inside
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that a robbery was happening.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, hey, toy guns. I like that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. None of the employees seemed to notice that the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: guns were even fake, as everyone hit the floor and
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: did whatever Fernando's crew asked them to.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Do. Oh yeah, like toy or not? Still be freaking
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: scared shitless.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure. So Fernando and Louis were in charge
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: of the police and biding time for the robbery to
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: occur in the basement. Beto and an additional crew member
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: that the crew had hired closer to the day of
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: were in charge of keeping the hostages under control, while
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Doc headed downstairs, where he chipped away at the last
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: few remaining centimeters of cement in the wall between the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: bank and the tunnel to get Sebastian inside.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Once the tunnel was complete, the two of them got
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: to work and assembled the makeshift jackhammer and emptied the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: deposit boxes one after the other.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Huh okay, this is this is like quite the operation here.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is. And while this is occurring, that's
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: when Louie stepped up into his role that would go
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: down in infamy as Walter.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, Walter, it's Walter. Okay. I thought it was
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: gonna be Fernando. That was Walter.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: No, it was Louis.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: So Walter or Louis and the officers negotiated back and forth,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and eventually we get to the part where you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: they asked the officers to send in the pizzas because
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the hostages were hungry.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, did they get to pick what kind of fucking
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: toppings they wanted too? This is wild.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I maybe I don't know.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Pineapple is good on pizza.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying we are Canadian, so yeah, fun fact,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Whyan is a Canadian pizza, right?
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: You know what? I didn't even know that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Canadian invention.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I just know a lot of people think that it's
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: you're either ya to pineapple or Nate to pineapple on pizza.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I'm an or. It's not my favorite, but it's not bad.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm obsessed.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: So good. It's good, but it's like it's better, it's
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: pretty good. The one topic that goes so good on
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: pizza though, feta cheese. Oh my god. If you get
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: a okay, fun tip for anybody, a cheese pizza with
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: extra cheese and feta cheese, Oh my.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: God, we'll bring you to the yeah about an hour
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: or two later.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: But it's worth it. It's so fucking worth it, so much.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: It's so much cheese, but it's worth it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I don't do it very often, but when I do. Anyways,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: where were we here? Yes, so they called for the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: pizzas because the hostages were hungry, so the police listened.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: But this request was more than just what it looked
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: like on the surface. It wasn't just a call for
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: pizzas because they're being nice to the hostages. This was
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: a signal to the rest of the crew.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Oh okay.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: So once Walter Louis had asked for the pizzas, everyone
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: knew that it was now time to make their escape.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: It was time to get out.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: That like, the safety deposit boxes were empty, and they're
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: ready to roll.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I believe they gave themselves two hours in there
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: to do their job. They were not staying any longer
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: if they had a time limit. Once that time was hit,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: he's going to ask for the pizzas and now let's
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: get out, no matter how far we've gotten.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, Like that's probably good.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, otherwise your greed will take over, which will
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: eventually get them caught. Absolutely, so they asked for the pizzas,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and everyone knew it was time. So they made their
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: way to the basement, met up and they began hacking
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: out the valuables that Sebastian and Doc had broken out
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: of the boxes, and they began feeding them through the tunnels.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Sebastian had brought two inflatable zodiac style boats with him,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and the crew filled them both before climbing through the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: tunnels themselves.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Now, I did also see a report that they knew
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: that these zodiac boats would be way down a lot
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: with the possessions inside. And there's not a lot of
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: water in these tunnels, right, so they're probably gonna end
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: up bottoming out with the weight. So I believe they
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: ended up doing some sort of damming or something. They
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: put some boards up and damned it to actually raise
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: the water level.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Are you serious? Yeah, they literally thought of everything they did. Wow,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: my mind is blown.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so began moving this stuff out on these inflatable
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: zodiac boats. Wow. Fernando and Docks stayed behind, And the
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: reason they stayed behind They didn't stay behind very long,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: but they stayed behind long enough to begin spraying the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: room with bleach to eliminate their DNA. And they also
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: began tossing hair clippings that they had gotten from local
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: barber shops all over the place to cover any hair
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: they may have left behind. What yeah, really yep, So
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: that basically rules any piece of hair they ever find useless.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: That's some smart shit right there.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: And then they followed suit they went through the tunnels.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Huh yep.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Wow, I just can't believe how like the munchlitters using
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: their noggins here.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: But before they fully left the room, as they're leaving
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: in the tunnel there, they maneuvered a shelving unit to
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: cover the tunnel hole behind them.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Huh okay, yeah wow.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: And then they disappeared.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: And then they got like tons more hours because the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: police didn't do it, didn't come in or anything exactly.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Huh okay yep.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: So they sailed down these freaking drainage tunnels to a
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: man hole several miles away from the bank. They used
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a lift that Sebastian had built to help them haul
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the bags and valuables out of the rafts. Then they
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: let the rafts just drift away and they climbed into
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the real getaway van they had parked and off to safety. Wow.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: So it took the police, you know, a couple hours
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: to go into the bank and find that the hostages
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: were not inside. In fact, by the time they did
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: go inside the bank, every one of the robbers were
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: already safe and sound, watching the news coverage unfold on TV.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, the hostages were inside, but the robbers weren't.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Or sorry, yes, yeah, yeah, they only found the hostages inside. Yeah,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: but the robbers were.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Gone, literally just at home watching this playout, Yes, with
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: probably with pizza for God's sakes, and beer.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, I actually I did see reports that they were
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: eating pizza. I don't know if that was true or not.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: But well, I mean I want pizza now, so I
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: don't blame them.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, they're just watched, Like by the time they're home,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: they're watching the police starting to enter the bank.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: And probably counting how much money they made.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Well, they don't have cash, well, like.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: The valuables like the gold, the jewels, the whatever.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Exactly and uh fun fact, by the way, it was
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: estimated to be approximately worth twenty million US dollars. Oh valuably.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was very curious. That is a lot of money.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's two thousand and six by the way,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, how are.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: They going to get rid of all this stuff?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: That's well, eventually they start selling it off, right, Yeah,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I mean I guess you're not getting that chunk of
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: cheese just off the.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Map, and there's no way to track these things. It's
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: not like there's serial numbers or anything on you know,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: a gold watch or some diamonds or you know, silver coins,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: who fucking knows what. Yeah. So anyways, in the following days,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Sebastian took all the credit cards they had found in
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: the boxes. This just shows more genius. I love this part. Well,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: they weren't going to use those a you know, the
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: cash value behind it. Who knew the economy right in
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: their page thro the value of it.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Also, it's going to track right to them real fucking quick.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: So he decided he was going to dump them. He
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: went driving around and left them around town, sending police
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: on a wild goose chase because anyone would be arrested
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: who was found using one of these stolen cards. You know,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: they were just like, oh, this person picked up a
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: stolen fucking credit card, right, Oh, Lottie dah. You know,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I'm in a poor neighborhood, you know, recession. I need
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: some money. Here's a free credit card. I'm going to
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: buy some stuff.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Now the police are like, oh, we know that card stolen.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: We're trapping you down. You must be a part of
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the robbery, sending on wild fucking goose chases because they
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: spread all these cards across the city. Huh so, now
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: good luck tracking real thing.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: That's slightly genius right there.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: It was quite literally the perfect crime.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding, or at least almost, because I'm like,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: what did they do wrong here? Like how did they
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming they got caught here?
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: So oh yeah, we wouldn't know all these details, right yeah.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's someone who's talked or got caught or
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: however you want to put it. Would be the old
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: veteran Beto. The story goes that Beto often cheated on
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: his wife, but only five weeks after the heist, she
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: had enough. She had enough his cheating ass. He had
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: cheated on her again and she knew that he had
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: been part of the now infamous Bonnco Rio heist. Wow,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: So she turned him in. She called the police, she
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: gave them information that her husband was involved in this
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: and the details she knew, and he was arrested.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I honestly can't even blame her. I can't blame her
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: at all. I mean, yes and no, I mean she
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: might have been reaping some benefits still from.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: That, That's what I mean. The no part right. Yeah,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: So it's it's not a like, I know she's if
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you have a conscience, clearly you want to be telling like, hey,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: someone robbed a fucking bank and stole twenty million dollars. Yeah,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: clearly she's kind of involved in it because she is
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: reaping those benefits. So now it's like a hey, I'm
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: going to turn you in, But she's also not getting
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the benefits now, so it's like, we already know you're
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: kind of bad because you didn't talk hout to begin with.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe you should just cut your losses and be like, hey,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: give me five million or whatever.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know, and I'll walk on and then you
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: can go and be with whoever the hell you want.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's I see what you're saying. Yeah, she
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: should have turn him in, but also said, yeah, shouldn't
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: have a tournament. It's it's a complicated. I can go
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: off for hours in that. Probably.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: So did she know the names of the others that
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: were involved too then, or just that it was that
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: he was involved.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I'll touch on that here one second. Okay, Okay, So Beto,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: when he was arrested, he did not give up the
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: other members of the crew. Okay, but now with him
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: behind bars, it didn't take long for investigators to begin
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: tracking the trail and well, if he's involved, then he's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: involved then so on and like you know, tracking this
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: and actually finding out who these other associates would be.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: So Fernando, Sebastian and Louis were arrested. Beto's wife was
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: then able to confirm their identities because she did see
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: them prepping the getaway van in their garage only a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: few days before the robbery.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, so she's still just like willingly helping here.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She however, did not see Doc in the garage,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: so he managed to get away, but the same couldn't
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: be said for the rest of the crew. Walter, the negotiator,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: otherwise known as Louis, managed to take advantage of a loophole. See,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: he was from Uruguay and an Argentinian law allowed for
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: non nationals to serve only half of their sentence under
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the conditions that they left Argentina when they were released
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: from prison, and so Louis agreed to do so Yeah,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that's smart, yeap. He later moved to San Juan del Mao,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: where he married, started a family, and apparently opened a
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: jewelry shop.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: So fun fact that you only hope Karme is on
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: a bit and it doesn't get robbed.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. Fernando, the mastermind behind it all, served
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: his sentence and then put his creative creativity, I should say,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: to good use. Yet again, he's written books, in movie
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: scripts and even started in a few acting roles, most
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: of them having to do with the infamous Bunco Rio
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: heist and his part in it, which I don't know
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: if he was involved in this movie. But there is
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: a movie. It was twenty twenty. It came out. There's
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: a movie based on this.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Really, okay, I want to watch that. It's probably a
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: good movie.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Probably is. What's it called. I'm going to google it
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: here real quick? Okay, got it? It is called the
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Heist of the Century. Should have known that one, Yeah,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: who could have guessed it? And then there's Sebastian, the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: genius engineer who rigged a lot of this stuff. Right.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Sebastian only had to serve twenty five months in prison.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: He was only ever convicted for building the tunnel, and
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: stayed quiet about the exact role he played in the
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: heist ununtil twenty nineteen oh Yep. It was one of
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: those widely known but never confirmed secrets that the heist
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: would have happened wouldn't have happened without Sebastian, but the
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: public didn't officially know until he came out and announced
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: it in May of twenty nineteen on his own accord.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, why the heck did he do that because by then.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: The Statue of Limitations conveniently.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Over any wanted credit for this shit probably, of course,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: are you kidding me? Yeah, so it was actually shocking.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I think I would have taken that to the grave.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Well he didn't, he openly confessed after the Statute of
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Limitations was in fact conveniently Yeah, so he did not
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: have the threat of another conviction hanging over him, and
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: he he said, yeah, this is my part.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is kind of it is a little humorous,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: do I suppose?
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So finally, yeah, so, finally he admitted to the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Argentinian people that and the world basically exactly how he
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: came up with the ingenious contraptions to help make the
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: robbery possible and make sure that he and the rest
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: of the crew would go down in infamy with this
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: heist of the century, and that specifically right there is
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: probably why we know so much detail in itself, because
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: he came out and told all this sort of stuff
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and really that's not that long ago at all. Like,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised I haven't heard any of this.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: It's a wild story.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Have you heard of this?
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Not at all? Thanks to our patrons, though I do now.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: How have we not?
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Because that's really not that long ago. No.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: And I had fun researching this one because I.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Could imagine it was wild. I'm kind of jealous. I
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: kind of wish I was researching this one.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: We should look into some more heist ones.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean the Maple Surpie is still one
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: of my favorite episodes ever that it was a fun one.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: It was so fun. I don't know what episode number
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: that was, but it was fricking fun.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Well, and how Canadian can you get? Hey, millions of dollars? A?
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: How Canadian can you get A?
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: What did I say A?
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you said it hey or a?
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: But the same thing.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Fuck my Canadian showing bud.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the uh the buncoreal heist.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Hey. Well, I do have a question. I don't know
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: if you have the answer to this, but like, so
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming just all the valuables that got stolen kind
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: of were just returned.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: To p I'm assuming. So I'm not certain how they
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: would have sorted it out, but I'm assuming so there
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: must have been a record of what was in whose
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: safety deposit box and value of them and stuff.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: So I know, because like you think about, Okay, people
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: lost money like that had been so stressful, but it's like, shit,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: this was good, Like I feel good, almost bad thinking
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: this is good, but you almost wanted them to get
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: away with it, kind of like I was rooting for them.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: But I mean, they're criminals, so what's wrong with me?
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Well, people do kind of akin this story to like
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Robin Hood steal from the rich sort of thing, right, yeah,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: because A they are stealing from the banks who fucked
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: them over in the first place, and B they are
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: kind of stealing from I mean, other civilians, but they
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: are very well off civilians are stealing from.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Well, and honestly, now i'm thinking about it, the bank,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I'm sure would probably have some sort of insurance that
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: those civilians would still not really be losing much. I'm thinking, well,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: that's true.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: That's true. So wow.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I never thought I feel like there would be it
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: would not be the civilian's fault whatsoever, and that the
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: bank would be held liable and they would probably have
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: had insurance of sorts.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Holy shit, you just opened up a whole new can.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I never even thought of that.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they were quite literally just stealing from the bank.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the people were losing their items, but
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: they're getting paid out in lieu of Wow.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I mean that money has to come from somewhere though,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: So I don't know where it exactly comes from, but.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Probably the bank, which is the money that they stole
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: from the civilians in the first place.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: And like freaking interest rates are too high, maybe that
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: is deserved to shame to Shay. I don't know, I
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: don't know this. Maybe we just need to stop this
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  Speaker 2: so everyone doesn't think we're terrible people.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe, or maybe we should just go rob a fucking bank.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. No, we're not yeah, no, we're not
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  Speaker 1: going to do No, We're definitely not going to a
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  Speaker 1: bank never, never, will we ever do that. No.
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  Speaker 2: We're good people, are we?
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, we are?
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I actually think I am or I don't know, you know,
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