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National Review Columnist John Fund · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: The brilliant column this National Review, and he's also the
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  Speaker 1: author of a great book. You should get This book
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  Speaker 1: are Broken Elections. John Fund follow him on Twitter as well,
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  Speaker 1: and he's with us now, John Fund, how you doing.
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Survived the storm, didn't we? Yeah, it's much better today.
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  Speaker 3: So hey, let me just get to elections. We got
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  Speaker 3: a mayoral election that's crucial coming up. How secure are
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  Speaker 3: these elections you think in New York? The machines, the ballots,
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  Speaker 3: how much funny business is still going on? Well?
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  Speaker 2: New York, as you know, is a blue city and
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  Speaker 2: the rules are blue, and that's why the voters should
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  Speaker 2: be blue about ballid integrity. You know, it was just
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  Speaker 2: a few years ago that the Democrat who ran the
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  Speaker 2: Board of Elections for Manhattan admitted that there were lots
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  Speaker 2: of people who were voting in New York who shouldn't have.
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  Speaker 2: There were buses in Chinatown that would come and bring
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  Speaker 2: lots of people and they would vote one place and
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  Speaker 2: then they would go on to the next place. He
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  Speaker 2: was fired by Bill de Blasio, who was the mayor
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  Speaker 2: at the time. So I don't think the election is secure. However,
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  Speaker 2: as it stands right now, doesn't look like it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be super close. I think that the real question
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  Speaker 2: will be what's the voter integrity situation in New Jersey
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  Speaker 2: where I think the election for governor, which is very important,
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  Speaker 2: is going to be super tight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and who would trust anything in New Jersey if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, Well, you're right because New Jersey, during the pandemic
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  Speaker 2: for COVID, completely loosened its laws. Everybody in the state
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  Speaker 2: now gets an absentee ballot in the mail, the voter
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  Speaker 2: registration roles having been cleaned in decades. Patterson has a
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  Speaker 2: consistent pattern of having people going to jail for voter fraud.
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  Speaker 2: It's not theoretical, it's real. And I worry a lot
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  Speaker 2: about New Jersey because I think the Republican candidate is
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  Speaker 2: surging and the Democratic candidate is wrapped up in the
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  Speaker 2: scandal from her days at the Naval Academy where her explanation,
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  Speaker 2: you know, she's changing it every day because she originally
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  Speaker 2: said I wasn't allowed to graduate with my class because
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  Speaker 2: I refused to rat on fellow cadets. Except the Naval
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  Speaker 2: Academy's policy is it never punished people who who wouldn't rat,
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  Speaker 2: so none of it holds up. New Jersey is an
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  Speaker 2: economic basket case. Unemployment is high, taxes are through the roof,
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  Speaker 2: people are leaving the state. I think if the future
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  Speaker 2: of New Jersey is going to be on the line
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  Speaker 2: in November.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So why is it close? Shitarelly is a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good candidate, She's horrible. Why is it close?
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  Speaker 2: Because New Jersey has seen a whole bunch of people
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  Speaker 2: moved to Florida and North Carolina and other states. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's the same thing. And why it's is it so
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  Speaker 2: hard to elect a guy like Rudy Giuliani or Michael
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  Speaker 2: Bloomberg in New York Because the population is not the same.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of people have died off or moved and the
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  Speaker 2: people coming in are different voters. So I think that's
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  Speaker 2: the major reason. And secondly, you know, let's face it,
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  Speaker 2: Trump's you know, in the low forties in New Jersey
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  Speaker 2: in terms of approval, and the whole political structure, in
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  Speaker 2: the media structure in New Jersey. You know how hard
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  Speaker 2: it is to break through New Jersey. People listen to
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  Speaker 2: New York radio. They only have one radio station that
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  Speaker 2: you know, broadcasts to the state, So it's hard to
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  Speaker 2: get a message.
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  Speaker 1: Out yeah, hey, John Fund. Even with New York, these
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  Speaker 1: like Mom Donnie will talk about the crisis. It's an
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  Speaker 1: affordability crisis. We've got this crisis that Chris Well Democrats
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  Speaker 1: have run every inch of New York government, city and
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  Speaker 1: state for the last fifteen years. So why wouldn't a
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  Speaker 1: voter say, well, maybe I should change parties, maybe we
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  Speaker 1: should vote for the other side.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, the Republican Party is a horrible brand name.
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  Speaker 2: It just does in New York City. And let's face it,
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Cuomo is not exactly the apostle of change and reformer.
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  Speaker 2: We remember his time as governor of New York. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know the joke. The joke is that he killed
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  Speaker 2: more people in the nursing homes than he ever than
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  Speaker 2: anyone and the other governor in New York. So I
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  Speaker 2: have to tell you, I think that the election in
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  Speaker 2: New York City is going to be close than people think.
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  Speaker 2: But remember, you know, there's no runoff. Mandamie. If he
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  Speaker 2: gets you know, one more vote than Cuomo or Sliwa,
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  Speaker 2: he wins.
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  Speaker 1: So the debate is Thursday night. Clomo's a pretty weak debater,
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  Speaker 1: Mam Donnie's a good debater. Curtis is a great debater.
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  Speaker 1: Clomo will look weak probably compared to them. And if
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  Speaker 1: Curtis lands some real knockout punches, could that turn things around?
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  Speaker 2: You know, the question always is who watches debates from
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  Speaker 2: start to finish? Very few people. The question is what
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  Speaker 2: are going to be the clips from the debate that
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  Speaker 2: get played on TV and radio? And unless there is
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  Speaker 2: a seminal moment where, you know, Mondammie looks like a
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  Speaker 2: deer in the headlights of a car, I just don't
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  Speaker 2: think that's good. I just don't think the debate is
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  Speaker 2: going to be the deciding factor. Yeah, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean people shouldn't vote because there have been upsets.
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  Speaker 2: There have been upsets in many races in New York City,
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  Speaker 2: and there's always the case where people go into the
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  Speaker 2: voting booth and say, do I really want to take
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  Speaker 2: a chance on a socialist?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: The way to defeat mom Donnie is normally you'd drive
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  Speaker 1: his unfavorables way up into the near fifty five sixty
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  Speaker 1: and you need the super packs running tons of ads
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  Speaker 1: against him. Where were they that we saw none of
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  Speaker 1: that in this election?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the business community basically decided that they had a
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  Speaker 2: choice to make. It could either go all out to
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  Speaker 2: defeat him and be on his blacklist should he win,
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  Speaker 2: or they could sit down privately behind the scenes, as
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  Speaker 2: they've been doing with him the last few weeks, you know,
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  Speaker 2: trying to get table crumbs from him and see if
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  Speaker 2: they can survive him if he gets elected. The business
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  Speaker 2: community of New York City has never been accused of
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  Speaker 2: political courage.
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  Speaker 1: Well, hey, if he is elected, we did survive eight
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  Speaker 1: years of the Blasio, so we'd be pretty pretty good
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  Speaker 1: chance of getting through this, right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yes and no. Look, the good news about Mondamie
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  Speaker 2: if he wins, is his powers. They're not nearly here.
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  Speaker 2: The state legislature controls the income tax, the MTA is
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  Speaker 2: not in his hands. He does have the police department.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to be a problem. Crime will go up.
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  Speaker 2: He's not going to keep Tish as the commissioner, so
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be real problems. But his powers are circumscribed.
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  Speaker 2: The real danger mark is this, the perception that the
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  Speaker 2: city will go downhill will be there, and perceptions can
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  Speaker 2: become reality. I think people will start thinking about leaving
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  Speaker 2: New York City simply. I've been worried about time time
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  Speaker 2: to think, leaving time not to invest a lot of
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  Speaker 2: money in the new building project or a new a
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  Speaker 2: new factory. Remember the Amazon thing that was the real
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  Speaker 2: break point. Amazon was basically forced out of Queens by
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  Speaker 2: AOC and her allies, including Zoron. He was part of
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  Speaker 2: all that and at nine thousand jobs. The question is
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  Speaker 2: will the perception of New York is an anti business
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  Speaker 2: city be heightened? And it will, even though Mondambe can't
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  Speaker 2: really do as much as we fear.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, John Fund talk about John Fetterman for a moment.
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  Speaker 1: The guy looked crazy at first, but he's been the
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  Speaker 1: most common since Democrat trying to talk sense in these
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  Speaker 1: other Democrats. Will there ever come a point where the
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  Speaker 1: Democrat party listens to him, maybe tries to get back
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  Speaker 1: towards the center.
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  Speaker 2: Mark. You've just explained how we can convince Democrats to
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  Speaker 2: have common sense. All they have to have is a
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  Speaker 2: stroke and some brain you know, problems, and when they
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  Speaker 2: wake up, you know, suddenly it all becomes clear to them.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is you can't replicate that so easily in
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  Speaker 2: other Democrats. I believe Besterman is a one off. He
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  Speaker 2: is just a complete individualist. He doesn't follow the party line.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't like people telling him what to do. He's
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  Speaker 2: not a Republican. He's not going to switch parties. But
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  Speaker 2: he is a reminder to Democrats that they pay a
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  Speaker 2: price for marching and lockstep behind the woke community. And look,
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  Speaker 2: Fetterman is popular in Pennsylvania. He has He just has
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  Speaker 2: the ability, whether you call it courage or stubbornness, he
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  Speaker 2: just will not follow the looke ideology. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's a political winner. It's just that other Democrats are
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  Speaker 2: too scared to try that same path. Well.
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  Speaker 1: John Fund brilliant, is always great talking to you. Make
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  Speaker 1: sure you read his columns. Go to National Review you
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  Speaker 1: can read him there. Make sure you follow him on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: John Fund at Twitter, and get his book Are Broken Elections.
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  Speaker 1: It's still the best book on the subject. John Fund,
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  Speaker 1: great stuff, Thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark Abt, take care.
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