Latest / Petty and Unbothered / #31 - AC/DC Caught in the Petty Current
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- Robin Axline: What's the four one one? No. I'm a cool mom. Yeah. Probably. Tita Lors: I feel like we already talked about it though. You're a cool mom. Okay, actually I'm so glad you said that. We're just gonna start right now because there's I I have things to talk about when it comes to the mom situation. Robin Axline: boy, how exciting. Tita Lors: So there's not gonna be shooting the shit this time. We're just getting into this shit right now. Robin Axline: Y yes, I'm a hundred percent wholeheartedly about it. Tita Lors: We'll shoot the shit later. okay. So anyways, welcome back everybody. This is Petty and Unbothered, where we ask each other what was the pettiest thing we came across this week. I'm Dita Lores. With me is Robin Axeline. Hello, my love. Long time Robin Axline: Hi. Tita Lors: to see I've missed your face. I can't wait for you to actually cause you're gonna come visit me and I'm so excited. Yay! Robin Axline: Yay. Yeah that's gonna be a good time. Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So anyways, what's the pettiest thing you've come across this week? Because I have something and I can't wait to tell you about it. Sure, go. You go first. Robin Axline: you wanted me to say first. Okay, so it actually happened this morning. it was for a class that I'm gonna be taking. and it was a Zoom session and the Woman that was running it was super kind and she was like, You can ask me questions on video or you can just put it in the chat. I don't really care. Like so this one person just said like flat out like does anybody have a PDF of the book we're supposed to read in the chat? And Tita Lors: Okay. Robin Axline: And then I like emphasized it. A bunch of other people like hearted it and like were like, Yeah, I would like that too. You know, books aren't cheap. But it was kinda like Tita Lors: No, they're not. Robin Axline: bold for you know to say that in the school thing. but so many people were like Yeah. Tita Lors: Seriously. Especially 'cause sometimes your professor is the one who wrote the book. Robin Axline: Yeah. I exactly. Yeah. You never know. But I not in this case, but yes. it does. I know I Tita Lors: Ha ha. Robin Axline: did notice there was a book I have to get that is the professor's name. And I was like, whoa. So anywho, Tita Lors: Right. Robin Axline: so all these people were like jumping on the bandwagon, like, yeah, I I didn't buy the book yet. If anybody has a resource, hit me up kind of thing. And this guy comes in the enters the chat and he's like he's like that is just a disgrace that you would be asking that and how dare you. that's like illegal and disrespectful of the authors and the publishing company. And don't you know that these writers that do textbooks don't get treated very well and they live paycheck to paycheck and You should be ashamed of yourself. So then all these people were like, kind of like calm down, like this is just a thing, like it's not that big of a deal. and then he came back again and just said a real snarky comment again, was just like you're just making yourselves look ignorant and stupid and then I was like, wow, like everybody just said like, okay, I get it, just calm down kind of thing. And then I know. Tita Lors: Yes. This coming from like a social justice class. Come on. Robin Axline: Like this guy, my god. I I mean not trying to be mean, but I just hope he's not in one of my glasses. Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: Cause he would not shut up. And then the He even said something like, Isn't it ironic that it's a social justice class and yet you wanna mess with the system or s or like Tita Lors: Yeah, it's ironic that you don't understand that there are systems in place that make it difficult for people to access this resource financially. Robin Axline: Actually that's somebody did say something. Not as good as well as you just said it, but somebody basically said like, Yeah, well it'll be nice if these books were more accessible to people like students who can't afford these things. Tita Lors: Hello. Robin Axline: And so then he really started ganging up on like the gal that originally asked that and he was like, You should be ashamed of yourself and I hope you feel a lot of shame or something And so then Tita Lors: Ew. Robin Axline: Yeah. And then Tita Lors: From somebody who wants to be a clinician, shut up. Robin Axline: I know. I was like, this is outrageous. so then when it when the woman opened the floor for questions, he's like, I have a question. And then he told basically told the whole story of what just happened in the chat and he named her this gals Tita Lors: He doxed her. Robin Axline: E dox he's like, I can't remember what her name was, like Mary Smith or whatever. Like Mary Smith asked a very unethical thing of the group, and that is just you know, embarrassing for us or something like that. And the one that was writing it handled it so well, she was like she's like, hmm, interesting. Okay, well, that's good to know. Like she really didn't Yeah. Tita Lors: Just moved on. Robin Axline: Like she didn't say either way and then you Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: could tell he was kinda miffed. Like he just like and then the gal that he doxxed wrote this like big paragraph and she was like, You could have DM'd me if you were this upset about it. Instead you had to make it public for even the people that weren't even reading the chat. So she was upset. And anyways, that's my petty thing this week, 'cause that was insanely petty. Tita Lors: That is and you know he's a keyboard warrior. Robin Axline: Hundred percent. 'Cause he couldn't stop himself. Tita Lors: Yeah. Shut up already. Jesus. Robin Axline: I that was wild. I couldn't believe it. I was like, dude, stop. man. Phew. So Tita Lors: Wow. He's he's gonna be an interesting clinician for sure. Robin Axline: yeah. Wow. I s I can just imagine Tita Lors: Goodness. Okay. Robin Axline: him being in class and being like, Excuse me, excuse me that kind of person. Ugh. Tita Lors: no. He's probably the well actually character. Robin Axline: Yeah. Totally, totally, hundred percent. He just in this even the way he spoke and like kind of the way he looked and his face he was he was making, I was just like, man, this is the well actually person Tita Lors: I had. So my Robin Axline: Ha ha Tita Lors: classes, I took them. I went to the Orange County branch of the school that I went to. But then there was a class that I wanted or needed to take and it was they didn't have it in Orange County, so I had to take it in LA. so I would go there and there was just a vast difference in how people were in like I feel like I I they're just the way they spoke to each other in the LA campus, it was just so mean and accusing and like all this stuff and I was like, What is hap why are you guys so angry? What is happening right now? yeah, Robin Axline: Yeah, wonder why. Tita Lors: and I'm like even if this is like a social justice issue or if this is like I don't know, but and then and of course it was like somebody with the caucasity to speak about stuff that they knew nothing about and I was like, okay guy, take several steps back, please. There's no reason. Yes. You know. Robin Axline: Several seats. Yeah. how stupid. I'm well, hopefully you didn't have to s do any more glasses there. Tita Lors: just a one class thankfully yes my gosh so Robin Axline: Anywho, let's hear about your story because I am excited. Let's go. Tita Lors: I was talking with my friend from high school and she was like this is it's like literally meaningless in the grand scheme of things but she's obsessed so she sends me the link and it's Oreo gate. Have you heard about Oreogate? Okay, I I need you to Robin Axline: I'm listening. Tita Lors: to see this, but I need to find the right one. so first, earlier that day I saw a thread from Oreo and it's so funny. let me share it. Loop loop loop loop. So, did you know that Oreo spelled backwards is Oreo? Robin Axline: Whoa, wait a minute. No, it's not. Tita Lors: You were just like mind blow wait, unbl excuse me Yes. Robin Axline: I just like hold on. No, that doesn't I go. Tita Lors: And then this brand is like so the brand is Oppo, I think. and it it says as a real palindrome, I'm offended Robin Axline: huh Nice. Tita Lors: And then hooked on phonics, hey Oreo, we're here if you need us. And I don't know what calm it's talking about, but it says this is as rude as the Pene pasta incident. I don't know what that is. But I know. And then where is it? Sour mm, Sour Patch Kids, you and Chips Ahoy need to learn how to spell. Robin Axline: Whoa. Tita Lors: man, that was so funny. So that was funny to me. I saw that. And then my friend sends me is this the correct one? Do do do do do do. yes, okay, pause. I don't know how to make this start over again. But it's gonna be so loud. Share screen. Okay, you ready? Obviously. Ha ha. Robin Axline: Huh. What a bop. Tita Lors: So that's I right? I love these things so f like these are hilarious. So there's that this ther it's now part eleven. Yes, bec part twelve I just saw. There's an update. I'm so excited. I'm gonna watch that later. But there's like a back and forth and like ultimately her little girl ends up being this like she's masterminding these kids of like to get them to bring Oreos for her. Robin Axline: Hoo. Tita Lors: She's like asking, can you bring me Oreos? and then somebody like, I forget if somebody mentioned golden Oreos, but someone for sure mentioned or brought double-stuffed Oreos. And she's just like asking her friends and trading snacks for Oreos. It's so good. Yeah, hold on. So now and then there's like a side chat from the the other moms. So the the mom who like doesn't want the Oreos is Michelle. And now the other moms are like in a side chat. So hold on. okay. I'm gonna share that one because this one's one of my favorites. It's hilarious. okay. So be So she's like trying to get everybody to stop and everyone's like with respect, no. Right? Like Robin Axline: Hosh. Tita Lors: just because you don't want your kids to have this doesn't mean that we can't ha allow our kids to have this, right? And rightfully so. And they're like, Maybe you should just I don't know if they said it, but maybe you should teach your kid not to like trade food or whatever. And she won't give people the reason why she doesn't want her kid to have Oreos. Yeah. And it has nothing to do with allergies or whatever, they just don't. So someone's like, Well, seems like you need to bring this up. If you're s if you have such a problem with this, why don't you email the the school? Robin Axline: Okay. Tita Lors: So she does. And then Robin Axline: What? Tita Lors: Yes. And then the school sends out an email. that basically agrees with the other moms that's that are like, you know, let's let's try to s send healthy meals and snacks, but also we can't control what you do. Robin Axline: Wow, that's a bold stance. Tita Lors: Yeah, right, which they can't. and like as a mom who has a child with allergies that need an epi pen, and and it's one where like in the way that she digests her food it's pretty severe, it's not the one where if it's like in the air, right? So I understand if it's allergy related because like for some people, let's say it's like they have a citrus allergy or a peanut allergy, just being around it and smelling it could really activate them. So that's understandable, but that's something you have to take up with the school and be like, hey, my child has this severe allergy and I'd really like for them to be in a safe space. Which makes sense. Robin Axline: Yeah, that makes a lot of sen yeah, totally. Tita Lors: Yes. And and if that was the case, I would be like, you know, I care so much for your child, I would hate to induce an allergic reaction. So yes, of course, I will not be sending you know those things with my child since our kids hang out often. Robin Axline: Right. Tita Lors: But that's not the case. You just don't want her to. And you're like policing her sugar intake, which okay, but maybe you should have a different kind of a conversation with your kid about that. That's not the other mom's responsibility. Anyways, that was the side tangent. I don't know if in here it talks about it, but she also found out from her so Michelle found out from her kid that her kid had asked somebody else to bring Oreos or that another kid was going to bring Oreos. So all of the lunchboxes are outside of the schoolroom and she opened somebody's lunchbox. Robin Axline: That is like w ten million steps too far. Tita Lors: Ten million steps too far. Lady, you open my kid's lunchbox. I'm sending two sets of Oreos, one for my kid and one for your kid, and I'm gonna tell her to share it every single time. Are you freaking kidding me? Nah. Robin Axline: Hell no. Tita Lors: Like, do you want the chocol ask for her order? Does she all matter of fact, what kind of chocolate does she like? Does she have any allergies? What's her favorite candy? Because you about to have that every day. Good lord, stay out of my kids' lunchbox. Are you out of your mind? Anyways, I'm gonna continue this now. Robin Axline: Man. Okay. Tita Lors: Yeah. Yes. Ha Robin Axline: All these other moms seem actually kinda cool. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Tita Lors: Right? I wanna be friends with them. I would be whoever suggested y'all, we're all sending Oreos. Robin Axline: Yeah, for reals. Tita Lors: Cause that's just nuts. You have crossed the line by doing inspections. And then so the the seating arrangements. So she Michelle spoke to the teacher and was like, Well, because that one keeps bringing restricted foods and contraband, basically, I don't want my kids sitting next to her during lunchtime anymore. Robin Axline: my how my gosh. How like you can't control s like that kind of stuff. I mean Tita Lors: Yes. And how old do you think these kids are? Robin Axline: I was gonna say like f I don't know, five Okay. Makes sense. Yeah. Tita Lors: Yes, they're five. Like, come on. They're five. I have spent the last five years teaching my kids what they're allergic to. Well, for the bigger one, what she's allergic to. Like three and a half years for the little one, which she's and we didn't even know what she was allergic to until a year and a half ago. So she's still learning that she can't have stuff and learning how to listen to her body and know when she's having an allergic reaction and tell us. So it's Robin Axline: Right. Tita Lors: right, like this took time to teach. And we are not teaching it in a my god, you're gonna die situation. It's just like, yeah, that's just not a safe food. for you to have, you know, we obviously don't want you to have these reactions. It causes your body to go crazy and and then one time we actually did have to use the epi pen and that was really scary for her. But we have actual allergies. Robin Axline: It's so weird. I mean, weird how cryptic she was too at the beginning, how she was like, she just can't have but she didn't really say why. Tita Lors: Yeah. Yeah. And the moms asked. And she was like, I don't feel like talking about it. Robin Axline: She like she literally could have just said like I don't want them to have that much sugar or any or processed Tita Lors: Exactly. Robin Axline: food or I don't know. But she didn't Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: yeah, I don't understand why the secrecy Tita Lors: Yes, right? Like and also even if I was that mom, I was like, we just don't give my kid processed food 'cause I could be that mom. A lot of the foods that impact my biggest allergies are like highly processed foods and foods with histamine in them. so I could be like, Hey, can you not send cheese anymore? 'Cause my kid really loves cheese and she can't have cheese because it's highly processed. But it's not anybody else's responsibility, if anything, talking to the teachers and being like, Hey, you know, I don't know. We're just trying to r restrict the sugar intake or whatever. Give some kind of a reason. Robin Axline: Yeah, that's so Yeah, so weird. I don't know. wow, what a wild story. Tita Lors: Yeah. I know. Yeah, I'm living for it. I think like New York Times or not New York Times, some major like news Robin Axline: News outlet. Tita Lors: outlet is now covering Oreo Gate. Yeah. Robin Axline: No way. Now I c now you kinda got me hooked, and now we do have to see like what else unfolds. Tita Lors: Yeah, right. and then since it's back to school at the time of recording, my they're in the like local group chat or whatever on Facebook, some moms are like, what are we bringing to or what are we putting in our kids' lunch boxes? They're like easy, maybe less processed, blah blah blah, whatever. And I was like, Oreos. Hashtag Oreogate if you don't like me. That's cool. Yeah. And then I gave a real answer, but you know, if and when we do buy Oreos, there will be Oreos in her lunch bill. Robin Axline: Dope. That's hilarious. I mean, I'm not g my parents weren't the kind of people that would raise a red flag about anything like that, but I was the kid that didn't get like Like a lot of kids would have like ho ho's, ding-dongs kind of stuff. And I I didn't even know what those were when I was a kid. I just remember like everybody had those like foil wrapped things for dessert. And I'd just be like, huh, what is that? Like I really didn't know. And so like it is funny how kids do learn about stuff like that at lunchtime. Tita Lors: Yep. It yeah. Robin Axline: So it it kind of reminded me, I was like, yeah, that rings a bell, like I think like the the most processed thing I got was like teddy grams or fruit wrinkles or like some kind of fruits. Yeah No the Tita Lors: Fruit wrinkles? Like fruit roll ups or the fruit like fruit by the foot? Fruit wrinkles? Is this real? Robin Axline: I don't know. Yeah, I think I mean that just like popped into my head like a weird memory unlocked just now, but I think that's what they were called. Tita Lors: Yeah, I see it. Robin Axline: Wait, I gotta look I just remembered Tita Lors: It's from the same my gosh. Yeah, so from the same people who made fruit roll ups. It's fruit wrinkles. Robin Axline: Yeah, man. memory unlock. Tita Lors: I have never seen that ever. Robin Axline: And then occasionally I'd get those fruit wrinkles. Bring back fruit wrinkles. The shark ones that had like a special like great white shark in sometimes. Those were pretty good too. And that I'd say that's pretty much the extent of treats and then otherwise everything was like carrots and apples and boring stuff. Tita Lors: My mom had to hide chocolate from me as a kid. So I have like so eczema, but what I'm learning now and what I kind of have known back then but didn't know for sure Is that I have an allergy but before I thought it was an allergy just to chocolate in general, but I like talked to somebody else who was telling me about their symptoms and what they had, and I looked it up, and so I'm pretty sure that we have the same thing. And it's like an allergen or an in intolerance for histamine, just generally speaking. And chocolate apparently has a lot of histamine in it, and so does wine. and Robin Axline: Well yeah, yeah. Tita Lors: Yeah, so which explains why I'm really allergic to wine. Yeah. So my mom, because my eczema was so bad, she hid chocolate from me and she had to like Halloween. Sh could not have chocolate in the house. We had family friends living with us. They could not have their chocolates or whatever around. But of course I still got chocolate I Robin Axline: Ha You're no dummy. Tita Lors: Exactly. I knew where she hid it. I could find it. I knew who to ask for it. I would scrounge up like coins and things so that I could buy some at the liquor store without her knowledge. Like that was not the way to go about that. Robin Axline: No, yeah. So yeah, that's Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: like a perfect example. Tita Lors: Yeah. Right. Like you don't want your kid to have chocolate, then you need to have a conversation with your kid about why. And a conversation about making healthy food choices. Like there's a lot of people out there who can guide you, walk you through how to have these conversations with your kids. I definitely have seen and watched a lot of Instagram posts of people who have done this and be and s taken from them and been like, wow, that's a really good idea. and having those conversations, but really truly just restricting your kid and then blaming other kids for your child being the mastermind. Robin Axline: Can't even yeah. Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: It's so typical of that type of personality, I think, to do that. Tita Lors: Hmm. Like to not take accountability or to not let their kid take accountability. Yeah. Also she's five. I'm over here like, Robin Axline: Ha ha ha Tita Lors: damn girl, good for you. That is so resourceful. Please don't do that anymore. But dang, look at you networking. Robin Axline: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah. G give her the flowers for that. Tita Lors: Ha ha Robin Axline: But yeah, it's it's like so and the and I know what I was gonna say, is like how she kept making it worse. Because like it Tita Lors: Yes. Robin Axline: it jumped from it like escalated so quickly. Tita Lors: It did, didn't it? Friggin' crazy. Robin Axline: Uh-huh. Jump from don't bring Oreos to like seating assignments and ch lunchbox checks. Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: Like what? Tita Lors: Yes! The lunchbox check is what sends me. I'm like, cool, I get it. I always ask for permission to give other people's kids a candy, a juice, a whatever, right? I get it. But you can't police what I give my kids. Robin Axline: No, and then she could have put I mean, you don't know her. She could have put something bad in the your child's lunchbox. That's I think that's what really freaked me out. Tita Lors: Yes. What are you doing? Stay away from my kid. Literally. I know. So I can't wait to see part twelve. Robin Axline: Yeah, that is scary. Whew. Yeah. You got you got me hooked. Tita Lors: my gosh, there's this little fly that It's fruit fly season. Hopefully I got it. Okay. Moving on. Robin Axline: Okay. That was too fun though. Tita Lors: Right? my goodness. Okay. have you ever found yourself caught in the middle of other people's petty squabbles? Robin Axline: Hmm, that's it's such a tough one. I I really was trying to like I'm trying to pinpoint one in particular. and usually it comes down to something like actually, you know what? I have one that just kinda happened recently. Is like I needed a ride to the train station and a couple of folks were like, kinda debating between like if I mean this is a really tame one, but what time I should get there in order to catch the train. And one person was like, you know, you need like so much time, you like you don't want to be in a rush and all this and you gotta make sure and so leave the drive is like it'd say maybe forty five minutes from where I was and then they're like, Yeah, leave like an hour and a half minimum before and then the other person was like, Well, I mean, I I could leave even like an hour before you have to get on the train and I was just like, Yeah, because I don't mind. It's not like you have to go through check-in at the airport or something, like literally just go and get on the train and show your ticket. So I Tita Lors: Walk on, yeah. Yeah. Robin Axline: felt like I was really caught in between like the two where somebody's like finally was kinda like, well what do you think, Robin? And I was like, I am not saying anything. I don't know, like I I really I'm just taking both of you all's word about how long it takes and what you guys should so I kinda like try to What I did was like I went and I like refilled my water bottle to kinda like like tiptoe out of there 'cause I was Tita Lors: Get away. Robin Axline: just like, I do not want to be between this weird conversation. And then a lot of it had been kind of settled because I just slowly walked back. I was like, Okay, like, well what time is it gonna be or something? 'Cause I was Yeah, Tita Lors: So have decisions been made? Robin Axline: 'cause they were trying to put me into the middle. I was like, I'm not the one to ask, but Tita Lors: Ha ha Robin Axline: I'm just glad to have pride, but whatever. Anyways, that's that's what I can think of today. do Tita Lors: Ha ha. Robin Axline: you have a story like that? Tita Lors: man. not really. W I guess sort of. like it's more, you know, sometimes in families Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. Okay. Tita Lors: people think that they're the better parent than the other person. And then there's competition and then the children get caught in the middle. So basically that. But I'm not gonna go into details. but it like had that experience where, you know, these people are competing and gives a side eye for those of you who are not watching. but then, you know, the kids are the ones who have to prove who's right or wrong by being the better kid or whatever and getting caught up in in all of that nonsense. So that was interest that was an interesting experience. Yeah, actually it got like I think I've said this before, maybe not, but like it got to a point where me it was my cousin, we had to be separated. Like they they're like either they're in different classes or different schools or like something needs to happen, but like s something's going on here. Yeah. Robin Axline: Geez Louise. Tita Lors: Yes, there's like other things moving like afterwards too, but it's fine. Cause today we're gonna talk about somebody who got caught in the middle of two, let's say, engineering inventor geniuses. This person is an inventor genius themselves, but he got caught in the middle of these two people and their competition to the best. Yes. So spoiler alert Nikola Tesla dies alone and penniless. I know. Sad womp womp. Meanwhile, Thomas Edison and George Westinghouse, they thrive off of Tesla's innovations and the and what he the solutions that he provided to their companies. So Yikes, sucky. there's a thing called the War of Currents that that went on in the nineteen eighties, early nin no, not nineteen eighteen eighties. I know, could you imagine? The Robin Axline: Nineteen eighties. Tita Lors: eighteen eighties, nineteen eight late blah blah blah. Eighteen eighties, late early eighteen nineties. There we go. Where so remember like I said earlier, I wrote all of this in a sleepy manic haze. So it makes sense in my head, but it might not make sense while I'm reading it. Okay. So Thomas Edison, he was the first to create a commercial incandescent light that would last for hours. where like there were a few other people who did they invented and created incandescent lights, light bulbs, but they would be so costly because it wouldn't like stay lit for a long period of time. So you would have to keep replacing it and replacing it and that cost like a lot of money. So Thomas Edison made a commercial one that didn't have to be replaced as often. and from there was this race to be the the person who was going to bring electricity to the masses, to be the provider of electricity to all the people. And Tom for Thomas Edison, he was like direct current is the only way. And for George Westinghouse, he was like alternating current. That's the way to go. Blah blah blah. And if you're like me and you're like, I don't know what that is Direct current is when seemingly obviously the current goes directly in one direction from positive to negative. I don't know. I wrote it down. In one it just goes in one direction, people. Blah blah blah. Continuous flow. Yes, from positive to negative. So think a battery. And s blah blah blah blah blah. So this is a lot more efficient for power distribution to long distances. Whereas DC it wasn't as efficient. It took a lot of power and you needed to have like a generator. It was like a lot. Excuse me. blah blah blah. Yes. Okay. So we're gonna move on from that. We all know, we're all engineers now, we know AC versus D C A C D C Robin Axline: My god, I have a weird story about that, but I'll bring it up later, maybe. Tita Lors: Okay, cool. Okay, so anyways, these two, they're battling it out. I'm better, I'm better. Pick me, pick me, choose me. They're all what's her face from Grace Anatomy. Yes. So now imagine. You've just immigrated to America from Serbia, and you've got a brain full of amazing mathematical and innovative ideas, and you just know that if you could amass enough capital or get the right resources or connect with the right people, that you could change not only your life, but everyone else's lives. You just need the capacity to get everything from inside your brain out into real life. I have all of these ideas, I know that they're going to work. and I have the patents, I just need it to exist. I can't do the thing, I don't have the financial resources to do that. Great. And then you get the opportunity to work for one of the most premier innovators of all ti of that time, of that century. Robin Axline: Ha ha ha. Tita Lors: So that's what happens for Tesla. He immigrates, somehow he has an in and he ends up being able to work for Thomas Edison. And Edison's like, you know, if you can solve these problems for me, blah blah blah, then I'll give you this much money, like 50k, and I'll give you a raise and blah blah blah blah, right? So he starts working pretty diligently to do that. But As he's doing that, he realizes, and maybe he knew this even before, that AC is the best way. That like the most efficient way to provide electricity to the masses was going to be AC. Because it could go longer distances and it would be less expensive for people as well. But Edison's like, nah. I'm smarter than you. Like, it's the this is the more efficient and safer way. You just don't know what the fuck you're doing. Like you just haven't solved my problem yet, so get on that. Yeah, right? Like unless you can prove that I'm right, you're wrong. Kind of mentality. Yeah. So anyways, Tessa's like, I solved your problem, so you owe me a raise. I forget what he did. He like he created something. I don't know. I didn't look too deep into this. But he solves the problem and he's like, You t you said you were gonna give me a raise, you said you were gonna give me this much money, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, That was a joke. You're an immigrant. You're not even American. When you do become American, you'll understand and maybe then I'll give you like you'll understand a good joke once you're American. Yes, right? Fucked up. So Tessa's like, Alright. Bye bitch. Like I I don't need to prove to you. And go him, you know? Like I don't to prove to you that I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. And so he leaves and he starts working odd jobs here and there, including digging ditches for Edison's grid, for his electrical grid or whatever. And he's like trying to earn money so that he can then create his own business, which he did. And I'm like so far ahead of my notes, I don't even know where. Blah blah blah. Words, words, words. Okay, yes. So he created the he somehow got connected with these two investors and through those investors they created the Tesla Electric Light Company. And he creates all of these patents and like and and does all of these things, but I guess those invest investors are like, nah, this game is way too expensive. We can't be competing against freaking Thomas Edison and Westinghouse. We out. Yes, and they take over Tesla Electric Light Company. And because they were the investors and because they bought him out, because Tesla doesn't have any money, they took all of his patents with them. Fucked up. I know. This poor guy just keeps trusting in the wrong people. Like Thomas Edison being one of them. Jeez Louise, right? So he goes back to like odd jobs here and there and he's like, it's it feels like my degrees and my education and all of that stuff is mocking me. So he's trying to, you know, again get more money. He's doing all this stuff. Meanwhile, Thomas Edison and Westinghouse, they're still in this battle of who's going to be the provider of electricity because it can't be both, apparently. It's just gotta be go away, fly. Is it gone? It's annoying. Anyways, so they're in this battle and then the Columbia Columbia Exposition, aka the Chicago World's Fair, is coming up and they're trying to bid to be the provider of electricity for the World Fair. But in order to do that, I think they have to be able to prove that they can gotcha. Too close to my hand. Robin Axline: Nice. Okay, Mr. Miyagi. Tita Lors: I'm gonna laugh when it flies in my face again. But yeah, so I guess in order to do that, they have to show that they can run a motor. Or something about a motor. I don't know. Again, I didn't look too deep into it. so Edison can run a motor with DC, but he can't provide electricity to long distances, right? Like it if it was a a flashlight or like a small device, DC perfect, wonderful. DC would be wonderful and perfect for that. But if we're talking about powering Houses, refrigerators, whole cities, then AC was just better. Yeah. Exactly, right? Edison is just not having it. He's like, No. I I'm the safer option because if you do A C, like you could electrocute somebody. Somebody could die, right? And then in so I watched the movie The War of Currents or the Current Wars and in the movie it's probably sensationalized, much like how I'm describing everything. somebody goes, Well you keep saying it but you haven't proved it. So he starts a sh like he starts this smear campaign. I won't said schmear Yes. So Edison starts a smear campaign against AC and he starts Electrocuting dogs and horses and elephants just to prove like look how dangerous this is. It's so high voltage, like it could kill you. And this is what you want to use. Like shuffle across the floor and touch it and you're dead. Versus like mine, it's so low voltage. It's safe. You could touch it and not die. Which isn't true because if it was like higher voltage, you could also die. But generally speaking, you're more safe, I guess, with DC. than AC, right? in that sense. So the state of New York starts seeing all of this and they're like, hmm, interesting. That would be a really cool, humane way to kill people. And they go and they talk to Edison and they're like, So you say that we could just electrocute these beings and they'll die? And he's like, Yes. And they're like, Would you like to consult with us on electric and electrocuting human beings? Because it's more humane than letting them hang by a rope. Which is what they were doing before. And According to the movie, I'm not sure 'cause I didn't look too much into it again. Drink every time I say that. Edison initially was like, No, I don't want anything anything to do with that. I don't want to create things that hurt people that could potentially kill people. and it just got to a point where like he was losing. Edison was losing. It was like getting more and more clear that Westinghouse was getting more bids and that people wanted his electricity because it was actually working and functioning. The only thing that he couldn't do was figure out how to use AC to run a motor. Yeah. So eventually he says yes. And he consults with them and tells them, presumably, perhaps, I don't know, allegedly. Didn't do the research myself, which he didn't 'cause he actually didn't know the what voltage to use. You could probably kill somebody. And that like and then there was like a whole trial about whether or not this was humane and if it was okay and he didn't want to be associated with it at all, but because it just got way petty and way crazy, his face is all out there. because all Edison wanted was for Westinghouse to be associated with something that killed people. But instead it ended up that both their names got dragged through the mud. How about that? Stupid. Like like you're you're killing animals and then eventually, even with the trial and all that stuff They n the state of New York did implement like killing people through electrocution. Why are people knocking on my door? It's my hot dog. Robin Axline: Gotta let him in for that. Amazing. Tita Lors: My hot dog and my cookie. Robin Axline: yum, those are so good. Yeah, you got like room service. Tita Lors: Take that DoorDash. I know, seriously. Literal DoorDash. Robin Axline: But it's Tita Lors: Okay. So state of New York, it gets approved. Now in, you know, all of America we murder people we murder murderers with electrocution. Yay. And this this gets associated with AC Electric and with Westinghouse. But it doesn't do anything because AC is still more efficient. Right. So I think Tesla's like out there and he's trying to tell people about his inventions and what he believes and why I think he wrote an article or something about why AC is the way to go. And I and he claimed to have like this is how you can can make a motor work with AC. And Westinghouse is like, Really? they get together in the room where it happens and Yes, exactly that. Robin Axline: Room where I have Okay. Tita Lors: And Tesla's like, Yes, I I have the patents, here they are. And moreover, I know how we can use the Niagara Falls to generate electricity. For cities all over the world. Or not well, not the world, obviously, but like in this region or whatever. Yeah. Robin Axline: The United States. Or like yeah, the region. Tita Lors: And and Westinghouse is like sold that he's I think Tesla needed a lawyer. Robin Axline: Clearly. Tita Lors: Clearly. Cause while he did get like a million or so, whatever, for the patents, there were no like royalties or whatever, so he wasn't making money off of Westinghouse making money off of AC elect electricity. Yeah, so it was that like one time purchase and then he didn't get anything else. They did work together and they did eventually like do the thing where Niagara was the generator for electricity for other cities and stuff like that. Right. So and I'm sure, I hope, I d he got paid for that. God, imagine if he didn't, that'd be horrible. Robin Axline: Me terror well I mean, like, his track record hasn't been so great so far, so less than stellar. Tita Lors: No, seriously. Yeah. So anyways, once he's got the patent, he's like, Okay, we can make a motor work and then the Columbia Exposition, they or aka the Chicago World's Fair, they're when the bids go in, they choose Westinghouse. Yes. And so he now this is why everybody, your electricity is brought to you by AC currents. Yay, everyone. But in all of this, right, like there's a problem that needed to be solved for Edison. Tesla solved it and didn't get anything out of it. at least not like not financial support or anything and I doubt that Edison would be willing to be like, Of course he helped me. I wouldn't be here without him and give him any props. That I'm sure didn't happen. In fact he actually talked shit about Tesla and said that like he had these what did he specifically say? Like they were good ideas, but they were just kind of ridiculous. Yeah. And and then for I think for Westinghouse he had some like financial difficulties or whatever. And because Edison just he lost the race, he you know, he created the phonograph and he created what like early versions of motion pictures. Yes, and so that's why that's what we know Edison for. And I'd never actually heard of Westinghouse before this, so that's interesting to me. Robin Axline: my gosh. Tita Lors: Yeah. And then for like a burn, For Westinghouse contributions to electricity engineering and and like bringing electricity to the grid or whatever, right? He gets the highest honor that you can possibly get for this and it's the Edison Award. Robin Axline: Wow. Just to like add all that on top. Tita Lors: Yes. Mm. So that's the story of why we all use AC currents instead of DC currents. We still use D C currents again, like in batteries and small devices. because Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's what I was th thinking. Tita Lors: yes. But in our houses and to, you know, provide electricity over like a city or whatever, it's AC. And then Robin Axline: Broke. Or Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. And penniless and like nothing ever came of his wonderful inventions. We know of them, but he didn't get he didn't get to revel in like the fruits of his labor, so to speak. Robin Axline: People all know that thing that you buy at like Spencer's Gifts or whatever Tita Lors: Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Robin Axline: in the mall. Or Sharper Image or whatever. Tita Lors: Yeah. We all know that that's a Tesla thing. So right but like we know of him and we but i I don't know. That's I I feel so bad for him. He just he got caught in between. Mommy and Daddy were fighting and he tried to fix it and you know, one of the parents won and like any other kid in a bad divorce, they got the shit shit under the stick. So poor guy. Robin Axline: Man, that is really sad. Yeah. I thought I knew about Westinghouse, but I really was thinking Price Waterhouse Coopers that this Academy Awards envelopes Tita Lors: Ha ha Robin Axline: or whatever. Like, huh, interesting. I can't believe they were related to electricity. Tita Lors: Again, drink. I didn't look that much into it. You did like a surface thing. I could have paid Nat Geo for they had an article. I just didn't want to pay for it. But it it was either focus on Edison Tesla bitter rivalry or focus on Edison Westinghouse bitter rivalry and I w and then I watched the current wars and then I was like, Man, Tesla is really getting fucked over here Like, what the hell? Westinghouse would not have been able to get that bid without Tesla's assistance with I or it would have taken him much, much longer. I don't know if this happened in real life, but in the movie, like right before they w or I don't know if it was right before, it's not like they tell you the dates, but one of his like inventors or engineers or whatever, they actually did die from while they were trying to work on everything. I guess they had accidentally switched the you have positive to negative, negative or positive to w I don't know whichever way it's supposed to go. They switched the chords and when they turned it on they like shocked themselves. Yeah, because it was going in the wrong direction. So mm-hmm. And that was all because he was like, We need to have a working motor. Cause we're not gonna get this bid if we can't figure out how to make AC run a motor. Robin Axline: Whole time? The whole time? The whole time! Tita Lors: Ha ha ha. Robin Axline: I just googled that movie. It looks like a pretty stacked casting it's like Tom Holland, Benedict Cumberbatch. Like dang. What are you doing in this story? Tita Lors: Yes. I was shocked when I saw Tom Holland. I like, What? What you doing here, Spider Man? Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: He was so good too. Robin Axline: Nice. Might have might Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: have to peep it now that I have a little bit of a background. Tita Lors: Yeah, I mean it I found I probably should have done research and then tried to watch it because while I was watching it I was a little bit confused. and of course like Hollywood hot sauce, there's some things that are not a hundred percent true. so yeah, I mean it's a little it's a little bit crazy. Not like I don't know. Maybe crazy. I wanna say slow, boring, like it was hard to follow because I didn't know what was happening. It was really hard to understand. And it wasn't until like midway through that I'm like, Okay, I see what's happening here Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I see. But it's gotta be like enough that like any layman could watch it. I guess, question mark. Tita Lors: I'm very layman. I was like A C, D C all I know about the is you know, like what? Robin Axline: real qu this is like such a weird, kind of dumb story, but Tita Lors: Yes, tell the story. Robin Axline: when I was in high school I had an A C D C T shirt. Tita Lors: Ha ha ha. your story okay I was like was that the only part of the story? I was like Robin. That's it. Robin Axline: Yeah, I just that's it. That's the end of the story. Cool story. so I was like leaving the house for school and my dad was like, my gosh, you can't wear that to school. That's like highly inappropriate. And I was like, What do you mean? What do you mean highly inappropriate? And he's like, well that signals to people that you're a switch hitter. Tita Lors: I don't even know what that means. Robin Axline: I think it's kinda like you bet for both teams kind of thing. And Tita Lors: Make sense. Robin Axline: I was like, No, it doesn't, it's a band, Dad. Then he was like, I don't know Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: what that band is and I was just like I was like, Trust me, I don't think people are gonna think that about me. Not like I who cares if they did, but Tita Lors: So Yeah. But that's not what this is about. Robin Axline: I know. And I was like, I'm not gonna change my shirt. That's the story. Tita Lors: Yeah. I mean, okay, so less or no, more lame and less interesting is like my introduction to AC D C is just that I saw somebody wearing the shirt. Robin Axline: Ha ha ha. Tita Lors: And I was like, AC D C Interest And I like wanted to ask questions about it and then they just kind of looked at me and they're like, Do you know who that is? And I like, No. And then they're like, Well, you said it correctly. And I was like, How the fuck else are you supposed to say it? Robin Axline: Correctly. Tita Lors: Yeah. Do people try to sound that out? Yeah. And I'm like, I can't tell if you're being patronizing or if there are legit people who don't know how to read. Like an acronym Robin Axline: Mm. Tita Lors: or not an acronym right? Like what? I was like, Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: in okay, that's interesting. Cool. Bye. Robin Axline: Yeah Yeah. cool. Okay. Never talk to me again or something. No My mistake. I Tita Lors: Yeah, no, I mean yeah, but th I think you were giving me a compliment, so we'll take the compliment and then I'm gonna I don't know. Are we friends now? What do I do? Robin Axline: Yeah. That was a Tita Lors: I'm a nerd. You're obviously not. Are we connecting here? Are we cool? I don't know how to navigate this conversation. Robin Axline: Hilarious. gosh. Well also I just looked Tita Lors: but yeah. Robin Axline: it up. A switch hitter is also a baseball player who can bat from both the left and right sides of the home plate. Tita Lors: he probably thought you were a bi. Robin Axline: Yeah. Well that's what it says. Slang, an informal slang term for a person who is bisexual. I'm pretty sure and a boxer who can fight in both right handed and southpaws dances. Huh. I'm just looking at Google AI, so that could just be anything. Yeah, my dad wouldn't know a baseball term if it a baseball hit him in the head, so I'm sure it wasn't that. gosh. Tita Lors: Yeah. Anyways, that's my story and that's the petty thing that I learned while I was doing research I think for Bone Wars. so yes, shall we move on to our glimmers? Yeah. I'm like, I have no idea how long we've been on this call. This call. This recording. I didn't set up the the timer. so my bad. But let's move on to our there it is. Yeah. It is in fact glimmer time. Do do do do do do do do do. Easy. So because I've been talking this whole time, I'm gonna make you tell us your glimmer first. Robin Axline: Okay. gosh, there's so many I have. But the first one that's come to mind is I someone who I really respect. had asked me if I wanted to like have a chit-chat and go on a walk and it's been really rainy lately and so they kind of switched plans and they're like the walk is off but do you want to watch a really cool documentary and I was like yeah totally so it was like the coziest rainy day just sharing a movie with somebody who just wanted to like spend time with me and then also kind of share something that they thought was of importance and it really was a great documentary is called infinite potential the life and ideas of David Bohm and he is basically kind of a genius guy who worked with Einstein and he worked with Oppenheimer and he got kind of blacklisted because he kind of he was in like a club that was like communists or something and he only went to one meeting and he's like, this isn't for me but because he was a member of the club then people were all like, I Yeah, like, I can't work with you kind of thing. And the reason why this glimmer particularly came up as well is because of your story and how he was used kind of. Very similar, like basically Oppenheimer kinda took him under his wing 'cause I guess he was affiliated with the communist party, but just not as publicly. Like they couldn't trace it. And there was like a theory that he had him work out kind of thing. And he kind of disproved his a little bit or like kind of was like, Well that, you know, that all that checks out, but what if we looked at it from this angle that I came up with in in my head? And so like he sent the paper to this is like flash forward, he kinda fell out with him a little bit and he sent the paper to Oppenheimer and one of the students or someone who was looking at the mail, like read it and they were just like, my gosh, like Whoa, this I can't believe this worked and they were like, Did you read it to Oppenheimer? And he's like, Yeah, I read it. Let's just ignore it. And so like let's not tell anybody else about it and we're just gonna drop it right now. 'cause he just didn't want it like one of those ego things, I think, where he was like, Son of a gun, like he did it, but I'm not gonna give him that Yeah, so it's just like a very similar story kinda to what you were saying, because that David Bohm is like, you don't know who that is. He's not as famous, but he was like just as smarter, maybe smarter. and he even w like I was saying, he even worked with Einstein and all kinds of st and Einstein even kinda snubbed him a bit, which is really crummy. Anywho, I highly recommend the dock 'cause it's just like r it has a lot of sciencey stuff, so you kinda have to watch it twice to really like get a grip on it, I think. Tita Lors: Like me during the current wars. The fuck is happening? Who is this person? Robin Axline: Right? It's yeah, so that's the only thing that kinda spurred that. But anyway, I felt like it could have just been like, well, the walks off, take care kinda but yeah, but then to like come up with an alternative was like such a nice relief and I I couldn't say no 'cause I was like, Wow, so that must mean you it's saying a lot, like you really do want to spend time and Tita Lors: You like me, you really like me. Robin Axline: Yeah. So I just think that's nice just to be really kind of obvious about those types of things and just kind of follow up because you never know like how you're perceived and like when somebody does that then you can kind of pick up some context clues like, you know, like it didn't matter that we weren't doing that one thing, we did something else. And so that just really got me in the feels. Yeah. So that's my glimmer. What about you? Tita Lors: Fails. Yeah. last night I didn't have any and then this morning and this afternoon I ended up with a lot. One of excuse me. One of them being excuse me. When I picked up my little who's now in school, from school, her one of the teachers' aides was like She's amazing. You did a really great job with her. I was like, thank you. And then the teacher herself was like, She definitely tells you what she wants. She'll let you know. Like if she wants something, just you'll know. And I was like, Yep. That w yeah. That's who we're raising here. Someone who's like, This is what I want and I'm allowed to want it and I can have it and I can't ask for it. and that was just so cool to see. But yes, that is Robin Axline: That must have felt really good. Tita Lors: it. I felt like really, really good to for people she's she's not even four yet, but for that to be like recognize that she's good in her classrooms and self advocating and she's not afraid to speak up for herself. Like I tell people all the time, I'm not worried about her. I'll still stand up for her and be there for her, but she will stand up for her damn self. I know. Robin Axline: It's I mean it means you're doing something right. So Tita Lors: Yeah, I mean thank you, but I she yeah, super impressed by that little bundle of chaos. Which she is, and you got to see her Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. She's a smarty. yeah. Tita Lors: in all of her fabulously chaotic joy early today. Fabulous. Robin Axline: Yes, fabulous. I love that. That's what a cool word for her to like cling on to. So cool. man. Tita Lors: Yes. I'll send you pictures of her poses later because she's like, don't I look fabulous? Robin Axline: my goodness, what a diva. Diva in training. Tita Lors: She is. So good. Robin Axline: But it's funny that you bring that up too, because like I was literally just listening to a podcast with this psychologist that specializes in like child raising and she said like especially when you're raising girls, you want them to feel like they have agency and can make choices and things. So that's what I'm saying. Like you must have really done that right because that's like a green flag for sure. Mm-hmm. Tita Lors: God, I hope so. Definitely. It's annoying for me because I'm the one who has to be on a daily basis receiving their demands. But it's great that in public with other people that they're still using their voice. So Yes, that's my Gilemma. All right, everyone. if you blah blah blah. Brain fart Thing two Robin Axline: Take two. Tita Lors: if you've ever got caught in the middle of people's petty squabbles, tell us all about it. We have our tea line, petty and unbothered at gmail.com. Catch us on IG, petty and at petty and unbothered. We would love to read your story on an episode in the future. Do we have anything else, Robin? Or is it time to go? Time to say goodbye. I don't know the words to this song, but it's good. I was really hoping you would take over that part. Yeah. Robin Axline: That's my Andrea Bocelli impression. Tita Lors: Well if you've enjoyed hanging out with us, please, please, please like, subscribe, Apple Podcasts, Spotify Deezer, and YouTube. Comment on our videos, comment in Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcast. It did say subscribe, follow, whatever the thing is, I'm not sure, but it supports us in some way that I don't understand and it helps you to not miss our next episode. And until next time, everyone, fuck it. Robin Axline: Stay petty. Tita Lors: Wait. We have to take a picture. Robin Axline: yeah. Let's take a picture. I'll do it. Okay. Cool. That's a good one. Alrighty. Yeah, listeners, you might get to have a sneak peek of that. It was a good one. Tita Lors: Yes. Okay, stop. Robin Axline: Till next time.