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Mean Gays on Baby Showers, Weddings and Funerals · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very excited to invite two guys for the first
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  Speaker 1: time to Juicy Scoop. Discovered you on TikTok, killing it
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram as well. Some people know them as the
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  Speaker 1: Mean Gays.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We have Aaron Goldenberg. and Jake Jones. Say hello to
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  Speaker 5: Hi, Juicy Scoopers.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, everybody. We're so excited to be here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having us.
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  Speaker 4: Seriously, we're so mean and gay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk a little bit about how you
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  Speaker 1: guys met and then created this, which just to let
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  Speaker 1: people know, they're not mean in real life.
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  Speaker 2: And one way- So she thinks.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good start.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good start.
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  Speaker 1: But the videos are so dead on and funny and
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  Speaker 1: you're basically- We'll go through all of them, but it's basically,
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  Speaker 1: if you had two guys that are gay, and you're
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  Speaker 1: that girl, maybe you have a lot of gay friends,
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  Speaker 1: and they do a lot of backhand and compliments, and
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  Speaker 1: the scenarios are hilarious, and you guys have great chemistry,
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  Speaker 1: but one of the ways we know that you aren't mean,
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  Speaker 1: and that this, of course, is scripted, is that you
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  Speaker 1: now include in all your content the making of the videos,
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  Speaker 1: which everyone loves a blooper reel.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So how did you guys, what's your background and how
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  Speaker 1: did you meet? Well, first let's do how your background,
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  Speaker 1: because you're actors and stuff. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So we're both based in Atlanta now.
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  Speaker 5: I'm from Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: Grew up.
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  Speaker 5: About four years ago, I was like.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of want to like pop my internet pussy.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I want to show my personality.
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  Speaker 5: Are we allowed to curse? Oh, yeah. He said pussy.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: We can say bad words and everything. It's fine.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, so like I started doing my thing on
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  Speaker 4: the internet and then I got a DM from Aaron
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  Speaker 4: and he was like, we live in the same city.
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  Speaker 2: So what was the first thing you were featuring as
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  Speaker 2: your content?
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  Speaker 4: I would say original content that like really popped off
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  Speaker 4: for me was I made this really silly video about
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  Speaker 4: Chili's Bar and Grill.
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  Speaker 2: I love Chili's Bar and Grill.
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  Speaker 4: And it was just, I had my 28th birthday at
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  Speaker 4: a Chili's and it was like kind of the first.
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  Speaker 2: Thing that- In Atlanta?
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  Speaker 4: In Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: That must have been awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Because I was like, I wanted to do this huge
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  Speaker 4: opposition of like everybody's trying to go to like this
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  Speaker 4: nice bar or they want to go to this nice restaurant.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, I'm white trash. I want to
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  Speaker 4: show the world that I'm going to fuck it up
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  Speaker 4: at Chili's.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I love about Chili's bar?
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  Speaker 1: Girl. When we were at Chelsea lately, I kept talking
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  Speaker 1: about Chili's and we were trying to get to do
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  Speaker 1: a show at Chili's and it never happened. Because what
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  Speaker 1: I love about a Chili's is it's the five o'clock hour.
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  Speaker 2: It's the happy hour, the appetizers, the sweetness.
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  Speaker 1: Of like a chicken soaked in like so many calories.
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  Speaker 4: So much sugar.
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  Speaker 2: So much fried things. I love like an exciting egg roll.
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  Speaker 5: A Southwestern egg roll.
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  Speaker 4: What does that mean? No one knows.
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  Speaker 5: No one knows.
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  Speaker 1: It's an egg roll, but with like corn and black
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  Speaker 1: beans and like a chipotle dip.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then I love like an exciting high calorie cocktail.
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  Speaker 4: A thousand percent. And you want that cocktail to be
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  Speaker 4: a half gallon.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and you want it to be blue. And you
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  Speaker 2: want it to be blue.
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  Speaker 5: So much food coloring. Yeah, I was across the street
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  Speaker 5: from a Chili's for like three weeks at the beginning
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  Speaker 5: of my tour. And I went there so many times
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  Speaker 5: or just like, it was so easy to like just
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  Speaker 5: order really quick and then bring it back to my hotel. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was great.
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  Speaker 4: I'm also dying that we begin this pod talking about Chili's.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you did a bit about Chili's.
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  Speaker 4: So I did a bit about Chili's and it came
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  Speaker 4: across his feed and he was like, I know that
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  Speaker 4: exact Chili's.
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  Speaker 5: At least this is how I tell this story. He
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  Speaker 5: always corrects me though. It's incorrect, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't like Carrie but Sally. He was like, I
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  Speaker 4: know you live in Atlanta. I know where that Chili's is,
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  Speaker 4: but he has a totally different story.
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  Speaker 5: So the story really goes the real life way from
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  Speaker 5: not Jake's lying lips.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Is I did see the Chili's video. Somebody sent it
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  Speaker 5: to me. I was like, oh, this guy's funny. And
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  Speaker 5: it ended there. Then people kept sending me his stuff.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, he's funny again. So it
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  Speaker 5: wasn't an accident. And then one video he posted, I
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  Speaker 5: paused it really quick. And I was like, his shirt
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  Speaker 5: says Atlanta. Does he live in Atlanta? And then realized
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  Speaker 5: that he was filming in Piedmont Park, which is iconic
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  Speaker 5: to Midtown Atlanta. And so I was like, I think
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  Speaker 5: this bitch lives in my city. So then I- DM
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  Speaker 5: to him. And I was like, Hey, would you, cause
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  Speaker 5: I'm always trying to like collab with other creators, especially
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  Speaker 5: those that I think are funny or like LGBT and whatever.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, would you want to get together
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  Speaker 5: and like have dinner and maybe like collab on some stuff?
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  Speaker 5: And that's just kind of simply how it started. Like
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  Speaker 5: the idea for Mean Gays wasn't a thing at that time.
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  Speaker 1: And So you guys are not romantically involved.
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  Speaker 4: We're not.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: But I do. I do want to say, like, the
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  Speaker 4: first time we had dinner, I think you do have
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  Speaker 4: to scope out chemistry and say, like, if we are
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  Speaker 4: going to go into creating content together, there needs to
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  Speaker 4: be this natural cadence, at least.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So we went out to dinner and I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 4: this is actually so seamless. Immediately, I was like.
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  Speaker 5: I just loved his energy and you're addressing some.
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  Speaker 1: Now, do you have as gay men that meet and
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  Speaker 1: then just become platonic friends, business partners, even though that
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  Speaker 1: was the initial reason for meeting, do you have a
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  Speaker 1: honest conversation of like, hey, hi, I'm not into fucking you.
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  Speaker 1: And then you go, I'm not into fucking you. And
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  Speaker 1: then you go, great. Do you ever say it out loud?
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: If it feels needed.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: But in this situation, I think it was platonic from
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  Speaker 4: the jump. Yeah. You know, like I have been talking
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  Speaker 4: to somebody. I think like the opportunity hasn't really been there.
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  Speaker 4: All that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So you weren't like totally single to start?
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  Speaker 4: Not really.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 7: Good.
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  Speaker 2: What a classy guy.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, you know, infidelity is not really up my sleeve.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so now I want to know how did the idea,
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  Speaker 1: because you said this, you've only been doing this for
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  Speaker 1: a few months.
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  Speaker 5: We only met in July. Like that's when the first
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  Speaker 5: DM was sent. So we started off making a couple
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  Speaker 5: other videos. I think both of us have a shit
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  Speaker 5: ton of ideas written in like our notes folder of
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  Speaker 5: like just one sentence pitches that could be written into
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  Speaker 5: a full sketch.
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  Speaker 2: Was your background, was there a sketch and improv background?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's very, you know, like Groundlings-esque kind of sketches
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  Speaker 1: that I love, like strong character work.
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  Speaker 5: I think for Aaron, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: For me, I was more going for like a spicy
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  Speaker 4: internet personality. Like I was just trying to be funny
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  Speaker 4: on the internet. And what's beautiful is he's kind of
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  Speaker 4: like brought me into this.
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  Speaker 2: World of let's script it out. Because you're a professional actor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And what about you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm like segueing into that when it's right for me.
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  Speaker 2: What was your background before meeting Aaron?
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  Speaker 5: Oh my God, girl.
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  Speaker 4: I was like managing a restaurant. But I was just
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  Speaker 4: like wild and really bold.
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  Speaker 5: He also was a financial advisor at one point. Right?
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  Speaker 5: I was an accountant for a minute, but I was
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  Speaker 5: just like, that's my old name.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, I love that because there's one of the videos
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  Speaker 1: where you mistake him.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yes, it does. for being not white for being.
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  Speaker 1: Hispanic they do this one which is so funny where
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  Speaker 1: they go the mean gays are doing a live and
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  Speaker 1: you're answering questions which of course this is all scripted
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  Speaker 1: which I love and someone and then how does it go?
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  Speaker 4: I think it basically you basically are like Well, it's
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  Speaker 4: crazy because, like, don't worry, Jake's not white. Because we
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  Speaker 4: get this comment that comes up that's like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: that's kind of racial. And he's like, no, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Jake's not white. Like, we're inclusive.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, babe, no, like, I'm really white. The
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  Speaker 5: concept behind the joke, which is really, it's the joke that, like,
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  Speaker 5: sprouted the whole script and the whole video.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We wrote that one together because I was like, I
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  Speaker 5: have this joke that, like, I'm a white person that's
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  Speaker 5: like trying to have more diverse friends. And so I
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  Speaker 5: think you're Hispanic and that's why I befriend you. But
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  Speaker 5: then I find out you're white and I'm disappointed.
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  Speaker 8: And.
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  Speaker 5: And we go off and we have a fight and
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  Speaker 5: it's like. Right, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And that was so funny to go off and have
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  Speaker 1: a fight. And then you come back and you're reading
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  Speaker 1: the comments and you're like, we just heard everything you said.
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  Speaker 5: And they're like, shit.
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  Speaker 2: It's so.
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  Speaker 5: And then we're trying to redeem it.
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  Speaker 4: Right. And we're like, well, I mean, he's bald.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, he's disabled. He has a disability.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So actually we do have diverse friends.
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  Speaker 1: I love making fun of people that are overly righteous
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  Speaker 1: about minorities and they're the whitest people ever and the
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  Speaker 1: most privileged. And I love now that we're like three
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  Speaker 1: years out of like the worst year ever about that
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  Speaker 1: for good reason. I mean, but also just kind of
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  Speaker 1: being able to poke fun at it and ourselves and
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  Speaker 1: the striving of like trying to act differently. like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you have something in you. I mean, I remember- I
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  Speaker 1: think if it's.
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  Speaker 5: The intention, like that person who I was thinking of
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  Speaker 5: for that skit, that fictional person, is not befriending this
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  Speaker 5: person for the right reasons. Right, exactly. And that's what
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to- That's making fun of, yeah. If that's
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  Speaker 5: why you're being nice to this person, because you're trying
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  Speaker 5: to be a better person but you don't actually like
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  Speaker 5: them as a friend or whatever, then that's kind of shitty.
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  Speaker 5: You're not being genuine.
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  Speaker 4: The reason it was written is because we've met people
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  Speaker 4: like that. We're trying to bring people into their circle
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  Speaker 4: that they don't genuinely care about, but it's an aesthetic thing.
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  Speaker 4: They're posting them on Instagram. They're like, I have this
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  Speaker 4: token friend of whatever caliber. It's like, this is all
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  Speaker 4: based on real shit we see.
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  Speaker 5: Like, that's why this all comes.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why everyone is relating to it because they're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, thank you. And now we've said it.
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  Speaker 1: And as Camille Grammer would say, and now we've said it.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's out there. No, it's totally true. And it's
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  Speaker 1: like so stupid. And I'm glad that it's like so funny.
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  Speaker 1: And I love there's this other girl that I just
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  Speaker 1: came across. Her whole series is she will put the
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  Speaker 1: camera on the ground and it's like influencers trying to
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  Speaker 1: act like they're helping a homeless person or whatever. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: And she puts it on there. And then the next
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  Speaker 1: stop is the same inspirational music and the guy talking like,
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  Speaker 1: and this is your time to shine. And then she
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  Speaker 1: gives a sandwich to obviously just she like made a fake.
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  Speaker 2: Person sitting down.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: I could go through her thing and watch.
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  Speaker 1: 25 of them, and it's the same music, and it's
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  Speaker 1: the same joke, but it's so clever. And I'm telling you, watch.
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  Speaker 1: Someone will probably copy her, too, and we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that in a minute. But first, I just want to explain.
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  Speaker 1: This was your.
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  Speaker 1: A still that you did about your spirit costume for Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: And it's called Mean Gaze. And it includes a bald
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  Speaker 1: cap because you're bald. Exactly. One ugly, one hot.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know which one is which. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to say.
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  Speaker 1: What does it say? Refillable water cup for being thirsty.
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  Speaker 1: Lingering eye contact. Inflatable sense of self. And then step one,
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  Speaker 1: make friends. Step two, impress your friends. Step three, make
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  Speaker 1: better friends. This sums it up. And that's why I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to start with this one because it's so... So,
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  Speaker 1: so funny.
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  Speaker 4: It's Aaron's genius, truly.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: He put that together and he was like, thoughts on this?
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  Speaker 4: I also want you to know the one ugly, one
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  Speaker 4: hot is based off a real internet comment.
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  Speaker 5: That's based off of a viral tweet.
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  Speaker 2: That's so not about you guys?
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no. Not about us at all. But this guy,
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  Speaker 5: Robert Anderson, he's big in the gay world. Heartthrobert, I
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  Speaker 5: think is his username on a lot of places.
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  Speaker 1: Is he funny or just a hot guy?
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  Speaker 5: He's funny he's funny he's got he's got a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of really funny series okay he recaps old episodes of
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  Speaker 5: seventh heaven right now is like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god amazing but he remember seventh heaven that
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  Speaker 1: guy was a full.
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  Speaker 4: Perv right he points it all out he went to
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  Speaker 4: all the discrepancies all the gross yeah he's like are
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  Speaker 4: we not going to talk about all this syndicated television the.
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  Speaker 1: Most christian show ever that the actor in real life it.
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  Speaker 5: Was one of the shows that i was allowed to
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  Speaker 5: watch as a kid but so i'm sorry um So Robert, uh,
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  Speaker 5: or Rob, whatever he, I'm going to start that over.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry.
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  Speaker 5: Um, so Rob, he tweeted something about like, um, that
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  Speaker 5: guys that are in a couple need to stop taking
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  Speaker 5: all the single guys basically because threesomes with a couple are,
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  Speaker 5: I guess, never satisfying in a certain way. There's always
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  Speaker 5: like one ugly and one hot, blah, blah, blah. And
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  Speaker 5: so everybody was like retweeting it. And that was one
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  Speaker 5: of the, Pieces that I guess a lot of people had.
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  Speaker 1: That reminds me of when sometimes when tall girls get
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  Speaker 1: mad at the smalls who grab the talls. Because there's
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  Speaker 1: only so many tall guys for a tall girl. And
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  Speaker 1: as a sisterhood, you need to save the talls for
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  Speaker 1: the talls. And then I've had smalls.
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  Speaker 5: It sounds like we're in a Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Seuss novel right now.
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  Speaker 1: And I've had smalls reach out to me and they're like, Heather,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a small married to a tall, but without him,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to like get anything from my
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  Speaker 1: cupboards or anything.
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  Speaker 5: And I, and I'm like, look, I should have made
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  Speaker 5: that rhyme.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand, you know, um, love is love and
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  Speaker 1: threesomes are threesomes, but I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. If you're gonna, so you're saying that there's,
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  Speaker 2: there's always, you're saying if a.
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  Speaker 5: If his issue was like, if I'm single, all the
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  Speaker 5: other single guys are taken in. By couples.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Leave it for the single guys.
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  Speaker 2: So that we can match up.
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  Speaker 1: Stop grabbing up the strays because there's no strays for
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  Speaker 1: me to hook.
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  Speaker 2: Again, you know what?
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  Speaker 5: It's a small pool out here.
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  Speaker 1: You have to put it out there so that people
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  Speaker 1: start to say, what is the Christian thing to do?
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 5: What's the Christian thing? What would Jesus do in this situation?
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  Speaker 8: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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  Speaker 8: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 14:42
  Speaker 8: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 14:46
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  Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
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  Speaker 9: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 14:55
  Speaker 9: filed against me.
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  Speaker 5: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: what would you do if it was given back?
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  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
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  Speaker 4: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: home dad.
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  Speaker 6: What happens next?
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: When I came in, he started crying.
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: happens next.
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• 15:26
  Speaker 5: use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 15:27
  Speaker 8: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 15:31
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• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is one of my favorite ones. This was,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I think this was coming, was this coming to the-
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: A friend's sad house party.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: A friend's sad house party.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Let me see, I think I have this one.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Here it is. This is your right point of view.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: The mean gays attend your sad house party. And how
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: did you come up with this one? Had you been
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: to a sad house party and you needed to say it?
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Because I've been to some sad house parties. I've been
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: to some that were just too many Trader Joe's snacks.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: And I'm a queen.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like a Trader Joe's too. But where I just,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I got, I was like, if I, there was one
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: holiday season, like in my late 20s, that was just
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: one too many sad apartment holiday parties.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: That involved Merlot.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: And shitty seven layer dips and shit like that. And
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, this, I go, this is a sad party.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Seven shitty layers of seven shitty dips.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: That's crazy. And now I'm going to shit.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: No, this was, I have to hand this one off
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: to Aaron. This was his idea. But like, like I said,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: like when we go through these, there's a level of
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: improvising when we're like actually in the house. And he's like,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: this is my idea for it. Like, what would we
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: actually be doing? The previous screenshot is us just being like, Yeah.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: You know, the funny thing is that is Jake's house. Oh,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I live in a quirky house in Atlanta. My house
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: is 100 years old. No joke. And so we're walking
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: around the house just fully like shitting on my own house.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: It's amazing.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: And sometimes like the the caption comes later and I
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: write the script. The idea for the script was basically
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: just like we're going to your house that you invited
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: us to and we just. are fucking hating on it
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: the entire time, which is such an awkward situation. Then
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: we turned it into a sad house party and I
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: added background music to the soundtrack.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I also love when you have whoever's filming it or whatever,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: who's playing the part of the other person. They're always
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: really good too. Whoever you get for those people are
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: like really good and natural.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: The majority of them have been improv friends. So this guy,
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: for instance, his name is Davey. He's got another podcast
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: as well, which I... Welcome to Colonel is the name. So,
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: so funny. I've been a guest on that a few times.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: It's an improvised podcast. Anyway.
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: Love it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: So I knew that he would be great for that.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: My friend Sarah, who's an actress filmmaker, was the voice
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: behind the baby shower one. My friend Joseph, who's another
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: actor in town, was the voice behind the super, super
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: viral one where we invite over a third. So yeah,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: it's just friends that I know that I get along
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: with and have chemistry with and would like to film
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: with anyway.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Who are willing to not be on camera and just
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: hold it and be.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: A part of making this.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: But I need to give him his props because he
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: does direct.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: You mean you need to give him his flowers?
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all of the flowers.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: That obviously came from the gay world, right? This is
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: a new expression that's taking over, guys. And it's like
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: he needs or she needs all the flowers. And the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: first time I heard it, this one... Um, this, this one,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I'll just tell you, like, it was like this, this other, um,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: podcaster guy, friend of mine, he was like in a
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: fight with another gay podcaster guy. And we all were
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: at the show together and he goes, and then he
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: walks up to me and he's like, I just want
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: to give you your flowers. And he tells me the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: whole story. And I'm like, well, where are the flowers?
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: And he goes, what are you talking about? I go,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: he said that he was here to get, no, he
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: goes like, no, that just meant like, I'm here to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: give you like a legit compliment. And I go, oh,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: so ever since then, that was only like in September.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Now I feel like I hear the flowers everywhere.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Did they just say, I need to give you your
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: flowers and not follow it with a compliment?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: No, he did follow it with a comma.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: But he said flowers, but when he was relaying the
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: story to me, and we were leaving the theater, I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: was like, well, don't forget your flowers. And I'm imagining
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: some roses, baby's breath, like what my mom used to
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: bring me.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: I love flowers, thank you.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I would do the high school play, my
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: parents would go to the local florist and give me
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: some flowers.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: And he was like, what are you talking about? And
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: he was like, no, no, no, that just means, and
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh.
• 19:43
  Speaker 10: So go ahead, go back to your story.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: What I was going to say is like in the
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: in the moment he's doing a great job directing me.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: He's directing the people behind the camera, every reaction, every
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: like vocal tone you hear, he's got an eye for it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: So I think that's, what's awesome is like you put
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: the mean gaze in literally any situation and, he can
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: really come up with an amazing idea on like how
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: to make it applicable because these mean gays are going
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: through life.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: You know, I just realized we never got to, you
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: said you did a couple other fun things together. How
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: did you land on these characters and calling them the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: mean gays? I, so great question.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Heather. So I, I really just, the initial
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: idea was like, I thought the caption was going to
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: be something like, you're gay neighbors who you can't tell
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: if they're complimenting you or not. Something like that, which
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: I felt was too many words. And so I was
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: trying to find a different caption that was shorter. And honestly,
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: I didn't think the mean gays would then become a thing.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: We shot two mean gays videos that first day, one
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: in the gym and one on the sidewalk where they're
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: walking past and complimenting their neighbors. Other people on the
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: sidewalk and then like, you know, complimenting the people in
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: the gym. And the first caption with those was the
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: mean gays tear you down with compliments. So that's what
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: I landed on.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Which is like a backhanded compliment, but heightened because it's clever, funny, mean,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: gay saying it.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Somebody in PR or marketing or something, a friend of
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: mine told me later, he was like, oh no, that
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: was actually very, very smart for you to land on
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: those three words, the mean gays. from a marketing perspective
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: that actually like makes so much more sense than you
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: saying anything else about their like or your neighbors who
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: like it's it's specific. Everybody knows these people, whatever. So
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: I was like, Great, I'm a marketing genius on accident.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Well, when I came up with the name for Juicy Scoop,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the first network I was at, I met with this
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: producer and he's.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Like, well, what are we going to call this?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: He goes, is there an expression or something? And I go, oh,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: for years I've said, what's the Juicy Scoop? Give me
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the Juicy Scoop. And so then that happened. And then
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I actually had someone else who was pretty successful tell
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: me about a year later, that name isn't good. You
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: should have called it like Heather's Hollywood or say Heather
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: McDonald in your name. And for like a couple of years,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you're right. Maybe my name would
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: have been bigger because the podcast is so big. Maybe
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: people would know who Juicy Scoop is if it was
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Heather McDonald's Hollywood or whatever. And now, of course, I'm
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: so glad that it's Juicy Scoop.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: And I've actually had.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: later on network people say it's very easy to sell
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: advertisers on your show because they know exactly what the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: show is.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: It isn't like.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: You know, it isn't like draperies and love. And you're like, well,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: what is that? You know, like sometimes you're like, what
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: is that?
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: And so it's like, I think that is sometimes you
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: just kind of get lucky.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And it really seems to work out.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think also like just the fact that it's
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: the mean gaze, a lot of people, I think, assume
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: that we took inspiration of that, like from the mean girls,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: which is obviously a very famous franchise and movie, movie
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: and musical and all that. Um, And we didn't, it
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: was really just meant to be our thing. And then
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: it kind of has the same letters, but it wasn't
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: in any way like inspired by or trying to copy
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: that or whatever.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: The other thing is, I feel like this is kind
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: of an interesting time in history for you guys to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: crack open the egg that there are mean gays.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my gosh. You mean the ones we've all met?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't think anyone has really recognized it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, there's been such an alliance
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: between women and their gay friends. And some gay friends
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: are extremely loyal and fabulous. And then I've often said...
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that one thing about gay men is not all gay
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: men are monogamous and not all gay men who have
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: their gay female best friend are monogamous to that girl.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: But we think, because most women, straight women, are monogamous,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: they think, oh, this is my gay best friend.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: And he's so wonderful to me.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: You know, the best thing about having a gay best
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: friend who's male is you get all the benefits of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: having a man around. You know, he's a gentleman. He
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: helps you out with stuff. But he doesn't want to
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: fuck you. And you're not going out for the same guy.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: So sometimes with two girls that can be best friends,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: there's a little bit of competition. You're at a bar
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and the guy's talking to both of you. Yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: But you have the gay best friend and he's just
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: your bestie, right? So that's the most beautiful relationship there is.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: It's the truest intention, right? Like, we are platonically just aligned.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: However, some of these gay men can have lots of
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: chemistry with lots of fabulous straight women.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, you see... You see.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: That maybe as a straight woman, you're not that special
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: because all of a sudden you're like, wait a minute,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: he's laughing and going out with this other girl.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: And so there's that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: And then I also think there's an element of how
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: sometimes gay men, just like any kind of man or
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: woman or whatever, can be really funny. Fucking mean and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: plotting and awful. And when two means, psycho means get together.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: When two means get together, you know, like, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: my sister's a criminal defense attorney. And one time she said,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I never want to introduce these two people because if
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: they get together, they will try to destroy everything.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Someone.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I gotta say, I've been so shocked that you say that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I really thought this would resonate a lot with gay men,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: but what really started happening was this started to resonate
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: mostly with women and the women that fall in love
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: as friendships and have best friends with gay men, because
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: maybe it's not their gay best friends, but the gays
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: that they're associated with, they come into a party, they
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: step into your house and it's this catty passive aggressive speech.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: And these women are like, what did I do? And
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: it's like, actually the sad truth is there's a lot
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: of catty speech that happens in the gay world. And these,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: these straight women are just women in general. They're maybe
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: not as used to it because it's, they're used to
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: more direct communication on all that. So it's like, it's
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: heartbreaking to hear you say that because I like to
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: think I have phenomenal girlfriends, you know?
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I still think it's all great.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I love exposing and having people realize it doesn't mean anything.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: It just means that it's fun.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: That we can talk about it, joke about it, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: be aware of it, of something that for so long
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: it was always... All gay men are the pillar of morality,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: of friendship. They're the greatest things. And it's like, they're
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: just human too. Just like they're shitty doctors and shitty
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: lawyers and shitty politicians. There are some shitty gays.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: There are some shitty gays that don't have your back.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: That actually don't really care about you. And so I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: experienced this year with two really good gay male friends
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: of mine.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, give us the juiciest.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: That it is out there, but.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: They got together and they plotted to like destroy me
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and my career and everything. And at first I thought-
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I thought one was influenced by the other. And then
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I realized, no, the main more successful gay took the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: other one down who was close to me to try
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to destroy what I built here as a single woman.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: And I have exposed it to.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: The point where I need to still get on with
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: my life and be funny and everything. But I do
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: want people to have their eyes open about certain people.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And I think too many women are so infatuated by
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: a strong, charming, funny gay guy. and they're able to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: be friends with them. They're able to listen to their
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: life and they think it's all great. I'm just saying like,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: you could hate that person. And then other time you're like, well,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: just look at someone's history and look at what they
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: do and look at how they're speaking to people. And
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you're a woman and you should be also a little
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: more protective of your female counterparts.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: I think one thing, just in friendships in general, so
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: not specific to gay men, but I think gay men
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: love to gossip.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Let's, you know.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: And one thing I've tried to remind myself is like
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: you might think you have a fun one-on-one exclusive gossiping
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: relationship with this one person.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: But if they are gossiping about everybody else.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: To their other friends, they are gossiping about you bitch.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Yes. Especially what the content of the gossip is, right?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: You can vent, like venting can be different than talking shit.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Totally. I'm having these issues with my girlfriend. Something happened.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: Can I run this by you? I want to know
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: how to like bring up the conversation. I have those
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: kinds of conversations all the time with my roommate.
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: My other best friends like, this thing is really bothering me.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: I don't know how to sort through this, but if
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: it's just like always talking shit about somebody, they're doing
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: that to you as well.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: And I realized that one of the mean gays and
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: one of the girlfriends I had met through the original
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: mean gay that I became friends with, the two of
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: them were I could tell we're talking, talking shit. That's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: exactly how I felt. And I've never, I have never
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: been cheated on. So I never knew what that was like.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: And now I understand now that my trust in people
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and friendships have been like, I look back and I really,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I really feel for anybody that is
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: able to forgive someone like that because I'm like, I can't.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Like when I know that this is like, I look back,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, did you even like me?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Like, what was this? Like, and what the fuck did
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I do?
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: It's crazy. And experiencing that in a friendship is very
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: different than experiencing that in a romantic situation.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Because sex is a tempting thing.
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And you almost expect more from your friends.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: A thousand percent.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: When you really shouldn't.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: And then you throw in Hollywood with it and thirsty
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: podcasters who, you know, and then on top of it,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: it's not just getting on the phone now and talking
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: shit about your friend. It's now going on your show
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and exposing every conversation you ever had with your friend.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: for clicks and all that kind of stuff, which is
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: not how I've run this business for nine years. And
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, now everybody's kind of copying the formula. And
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I want to make friends in
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: this business, but I'm also shopping for friends that don't
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: have a podcast.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: And my friend goes, good luck.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Or social media.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: It doesn't exist.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: I have guys all the time, like, you know, either
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: that I'd hook up with or having conversations with on
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: dating apps. And maybe they say something awkward or do
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: something awkward. And then they're like, oh God, you're going
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: to make a video about me, aren't you? And I'm like, no,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: probably not. I, that's not my, that's not my MO. You,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: this person I haven't met or barely know and not
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: where I get my inspiration from. I'm just a artist
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: who likes to write and I usually get my inspiration
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: from random things. It's not, it's not always a real
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: life conversation or I think like, oh, that would be funny.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: And then it kind of like elaborates from there.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: So I think like, hearing your story, has our content
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: triggered you from this recent experience? Because now I'm like,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: now you've dealt with mean gays in real life.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it kind of all started with my girl,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Coolidge, who I love so much, who I had
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: a conversation with her right after we finished, she finished
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: all the episodes aired for White Lotus, is why I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: think why when she goes, these gays, these gays are
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: trying to murder me.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: You were like, preach.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's when people were just, I was like, God,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: why do people think this is so funny? And then
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: shortly after that, all this stuff happened to me, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: now I think people are more, and then your thing happens.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: So I think it's kind of like a perfect timing
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: of just, Being aware.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Calling it out. There's nothing wrong. It's, you know, it
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: can be fun.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: It can be the villain in a hit HBO show
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: as well. They don't have to be like the funny,
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: sassy best friend.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I honestly would rather play a villain.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: They could be murderers too.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I, I, I was once told years ago before
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: I lost the hair, a friend of mine was like,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: please don't take this the wrong way. And I feel
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: like you're going to, but you would play an excellent psychopath.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: And I was like, and I did take it the
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: wrong way. I was like, what do you mean? I'm,
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: I'm the ingenue. I'm the good guy. I'm a nice person.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: And then as I got older and like, you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: matured in my acting and all that, I was like,
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: oh no, it's really fun to play shitty ass people.
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: Oh yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: And there's complexity.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: When you play a villain.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: There's drama.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: It's juicy. Yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: No, I love all that. I had a question and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: it'll come back to me and I forgot.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: But go ahead.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: One thing I was going to say, like, I know
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: that Jake said that it's resonated with a lot of women.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: I think like at Atlanta Pride, for instance, which was the,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: it was just the last big gay gathering that I
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: had been to. So many people said things like, thank
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: you so much for like finally calling it out. Nobody's
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: talking about that. And I didn't really understand. Cause I
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: feel like. That wasn't the intent, right? It was just
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: to make people laugh. It was literally like, oh, this
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: would be a funny scenario. And this is like close
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: enough to real life. you know, sort of situations that
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: I've either heard about or have happened to me or
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: that I've been on the other side of. Like, this
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: would be cringey. I love making stuff that you feel
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: like can't look away from. Like, it's so cringe to
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: watch and you're like, oh, no, no, no, no. I
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: can't believe they said that.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of the intent with a lot of
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: them is just like, how can we put them in
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: the worst scenario? But I also, like you said earlier,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: I feel like these characters... can go anywhere, whether it's
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: like a real life situation or like we've done a
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: few that are much more, um, uh, fantasy.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Well let's go through some of them please um this
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: is a point of view the mean gaze attend your
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: baby shower yes and i love i mean.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: I this one hit for a lot yeah yeah.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I remember i was with my stepdaughter this was so
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: long ago and i went to my friend she i
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: knew her from the groundlings and she was also a
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: facialist at ula henriksen which is like a famous place
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: And there were like these Beverly Hills women, you know,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: waiting to get their facials. And I brought her just
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: to say hi. She was only three at the time.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: And I didn't even tell my friend Robin I was
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: going to do this. But she walks out.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, hi. She's like, hey. And I go, so,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: you know, I told you about my daughter.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And she's three. And as you can see, I notice
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: when she laughs. There's some crinkling happening here. And she's
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: going for it. And these people in the place are like,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and I go, so I don't know, you know, if
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: we could just do like a quick facial, maybe some
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: oxygen steaming, you know, da, da, da, da. And I'm like,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're ready for Botox yet, but I
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: think like preventive. Yeah. And oh my God.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: And then finally we were like, we're joking, you know, dah, dah, dah, dah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: But it was, I thought that was so funny because
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: in one of the jokes in here, you were like.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Talk about the baby skincare.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The baby skincare is something that, you know, is
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: very serious.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: And it was just so good.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: And I also love that like men, you know, have
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: so many female friends, but still they don't really understand. Like,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: like I don't even like with my sons when I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: remember one time I was like, You know, I said
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: to my older son, I'm like, I have to leave
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the water park. I go, I need to get a tampon.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: You know, my younger son didn't.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Know what it was. And he's like, what's a tampon?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: And my older son goes, it's like a Band-Aid for
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: your vagina.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: And like so loud. And then there were times where
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I was like, finally, I'm like, you know, as we
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: talk about.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Women reproductive rights and stuff, I'm like, it's really important
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: that my sons know that like we have a period
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: for 40 years, for 40 years that we have to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: buy tampons for and pads that are not provided for free.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm guaranteed that if men had it, they'd be
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: in gas stations, take as many as you want and
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: And so I think.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Even with gay men that are so sensitive to women,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: because they still don't know like what goes on or
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: how the baby, and like, neither do my kids. Cause
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: it's just like, you only talk about it to your daughter.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: And so I thought that, I think it's so funny
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: putting them in these situations with their girlfriends.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: They just don't know what's up.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: They don't. And then like our characters act like they do, right?
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: They're like, oh, I know your beauty standards. Like the
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: gay beauty standards are crazy. When in reality, they don't
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: even align. The fact that women have to face like
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: all these beauty standards, it's not like, there's no similar
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: approach with that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: Men have it breezy. We can walk outside without a
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: lick of makeup, not wear makeup in any of our
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: videos and nobody will say a goddamn thing about it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: But if a woman, God forbid, filmed herself without makeup,
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: it becomes a thing.
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You know, but when you were saying getting ready for things,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: like that's another thing with like standup and stuff. Cause
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: like my husband would be like, Oh, Joe Coy. I'm like,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Joe Coy is bald.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Joe Coy just has to put on a cute outfit.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: He's bald.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: You don't have to do your hair. You don't have
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to do lashes. You don't have to do lashes. You
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: don't have to do anything. And that's the difference when
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: you're a female comic too.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I think about my outfit. I do my own hair.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I have to blow it out.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: If you pay somebody to do your glam, whatever.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I don't pay anyone. I just do it myself.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Clothes in the business place. I think about that all
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: the time. I've worked in a variety of Yeah. And,
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: you know, I noticed like, oh, the men can wear
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: the same thing every week.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: The women have so many different outfits.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Or like just you're an anchor.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. A man's in a suit every day and the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: girl is like, and I'm like, oh, I've seen that
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: weather girl's orange dress before. Yeah.
• 37:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Like what?
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: It's stupid.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Like I think about the stylists or the wardrobe department
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: for like the presidential office.
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, so the first lady, mostly the first lady.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: And then the president, the president, you know, has his
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: own stylist. And you're like, why?
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Also, it's a suit every day. The president, nobody's going
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: to notice if they wear the exact same thing.
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: But the first lady, let's go. Yeah, I think about
• 38:09
  Speaker 10: that way too often, actually. This one was mean gays
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: invite you over to have a little fun. This is
• 38:16
  Speaker 10: really fun. So this is like two gays that are like, hey, guy,
• 38:19
  Speaker 10: come over.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Let's play.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you're a little disappointed in what shows up
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: at the door versus the.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: A full-fledged catfish.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: That was the idea.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: What do you say to the guy?
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: It starts off with, hey, come in. Do you want
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: some water? And he's like, oh, no, I'm okay.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Just pure apprehension the whole time, right? Like hesitation and like, I.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: Don't think, you know. I think it's one of those
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: situations where like, and I've been in this, where I
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: decide immediately when I see someone, oh, we're not fucking.
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: OK, so you're already you came all this way and
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: now I feel awkward.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: What do you do?
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: Shutting the door on you.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I need to know.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: So maybe come in for a second. Then I'll like
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: lead you out the door in five minutes when I
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: when you notice I haven't kissed you yet.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: OK, so how do you do that in real life
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: when you when you're.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Jake's not much of a hookup.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: I'm not, but the truth is I'm a very direct person.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: So I will easily, I won't tell somebody like, I'm
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: not attracted to the way you look. I'll be like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: something's just not feeling right. And I'll put it that way,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: but I'm a very quick like, yeah, the vibes are
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: not right, babe.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Trust your gut if you're feeling like something's off.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: You know, also like a silver lining can occur where
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: it's like, maybe they're not creepy. Maybe we definitely don't
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: have sexual chemistry, but actually just met a best friend.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Like sometimes they walk in the door, you hear their
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: voice and you're like, So no longer sexually attracted, but
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: our conversations lit and we just became best friends.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my friend.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: That's what's nice about, I think, like gays, gay relationships
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and stuff. Because with a girl and a guy, either
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the heterosexual traditional relationship is like either the guy's going
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: to be really offended or the girl's going to be
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: really offended. And there's no real difference.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: They're not going to be friends.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? They're either going to be
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: felt like they were strung along or, you know what?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Girls are always like, just be honest, just be honest.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: And then when they're honest and they're like, sorry I
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't attracted to you. It's like, hi, I want to
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: warn people about Jake.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, literally.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Jake, who lives in Atlanta. There's Facebook groups, baby. He
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: acts like he has his shit together. He rolled up
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: in a Honda. And, you know, we got together twice.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: And then he just fucking goes for you. So I
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: want to warn you guys. And then you're like, oh,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: my God. That's why I think a lot of straight
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: guys will do whatever it takes to have the girl
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: break up with them. I don't think they ever want
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: to be the bad guy in 2023, 24 with the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: power that women have to make you look like the
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: worst human walking on the earth.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: I was about to say, I know people shit on
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: straight men all the time these days, but.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: I do think- I have two of them, so it's unfortunate.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, they- So sorry for you.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: They will get their flowers when they deserve them.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: You only get their flowers.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: I do think straight men and their erections make it
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: hard for- women and straight men to have platonic relationships.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Like they are sexually tempted more often than women, I
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: would say. And I think it's, there's a lot of
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: cool straight women and straight men that could have awesome
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: platonic relationships, but it's not as often because out of nowhere,
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: a guy would be like, this connection's actually kind of lit.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden he's sexually aroused. And
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: you're like, no, this is supposed to stay platonic.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I had a platonic friend for like a year at
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: this awful job. I was awful at the job. And
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: he did all my work for me. I was an
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: assistant buyer at a department store. But it wasn't like fashion.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: It was just like a bunch of computer shit.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: And he was straight.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: And we were besties. Why not, right?
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And talking about my dates. We have so much fun.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: We'd laugh about like friends or whatever was on TV.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: And then... one day we're talking on the phone and
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: he only lived like 15 minutes away and we like
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: hang up and I'm just like, whatever.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: And he shows up at the door and he's like, Oh,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I guess a little buzzed. And it's like out of
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: a movie.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to declare my love for you and like
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: try to make out with me. And I was such
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: a bitch. I laughed at his face and was like,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Like, And then I look back
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: as the girl and now like having sons, and I'm like,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: oh my God, I hope some girl doesn't do this
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: to my boys.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: But as the girl, be aware of these things.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Like these friendships and giving signals and be respectful because
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the guy probably is hanging out with you because he
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: is attracted to you and wants to make.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Out with you. I really respect. There's a friend of mine, Keith,
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: who probably he's straight married. He probably has the most
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: platonic girlfriends out of any couple. straight guy that I know.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: And I love seeing that because it's such a, I
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: love it. It's such a unique thing. I think they'll,
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: they'll hang out one-on-one and like, but he, he and
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: his wife have such trust and, um, and also like.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: He's married. So that changes it a little bit too.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I think it is very different when a single straight
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: man has platonic female friends, you know what I mean?
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: Like even so, I think when there's trust security and
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: there's not like a, a, a constant, uh, drive or,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: motivation for like, I'm only speaking to you and befriending
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: you because sex. And, and so then they read every
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: signal as, Oh, she's flirting because she smiled. She laughed
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: at my jokes. Like, no, she just enjoys your company
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: because you're maybe a nice person. And she's being a
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: nice person. My roommate is gorgeous. And people assume that
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: she's flirting with them all the time. Like, no, she's
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: just charismatic and really hot. And smiled because she's nice.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: She's a good person.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: But I bet people say that about you all the time.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: But you're married, so there's this obvious divide.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like, I think even throughout my time, there
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: would be comedians and stuff, male comedians, and I was
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: so grateful that they'd walk me into my car from
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the improv so I wouldn't be mugged.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: That is nice.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: They'd give me tag jokes, but then they would want
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: to try to fuck me.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: And then....
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: But then I have had a couple that I've had
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: a couple, you know, also in the comedy world.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: And I can have really good friends, you know, like
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Ian Edwards that just had the wrong day and showed
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: up on the same day, you know, and also Chris Frangio.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think they were ever attracted to me. And
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: we had such a fun relationship because of comedy. So
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I do think you can have a work like thing
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: and it not be that, but it is, it just
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: is a very interesting thing. And it's not, it's, you
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: can't really, what I think is, is just exploring people's different,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: you know, sexualities and relationships is there are some similarities, similarities,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: but mostly they're very different, right?
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: There's different rules. There's different things about it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And I think for a long time, did you see
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the movie Billy Eichner did?
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: Bros. Bros. I saw it.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I saw it.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: And I, afterwards I told Billy, I go, what I
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: liked most about the movie is that you said it
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: out loud. Our relationships are not the same as a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: heterosexual relationship. And I think for too long in the acceptance,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: which has been great for like the last 30 years,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I think girls want to think that it's the same
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: or something. Oh, we have all these similarities. Oh, we
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: like the same kind of, and that's fine. We can't,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: have similarities about, you know, partnerships and stuff. But there's
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: a whole different ecosystem.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Like there's a.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Whole different thing that just like we're, which I think
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: is just so interesting to like explore and talk about.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: And there's a lot of gays that need to accept
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: that as well because they want this heteronormative looking relationship.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: And it's like, you have to remember, we are two men.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: We are different. We are not going to replicate this
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: female male relationship. you know, conditioning from all this media
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: we've seen our whole life. You know, it's not going
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: to be a Hallmark film for us unless we like
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: make fake snow and like throw it on the ground.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Unless you're Jonathan Bennett and produce your own Hallmark films. Yeah.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: And then it's still a gay Hallmark movie.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But you're very right.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: And that's why I like that movie.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: But also I think, you know, in, you know, there's
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: female friendships are just like a very unique thing. thing.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: And I think what's great about men is, and maybe
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: this is with gay men too, I would assume, is
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: they treat it differently. They aren't as sensitive. They can
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: get over stuff. They can like not talk to them
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: for a few years and it could be okay. And
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: women just get so like, how could that be? How,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you were my best friend and now it's so weird.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: And I feel so, you know what I mean? It's
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: just a whole different thing, which I find so fascinating.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: I think it depends on the person. I definitely have
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: those people that like, I go months without talking to,
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: and then we pick right back up. But then there
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: are people where I'm like, we haven't talked in a week.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Is something wrong? Is something, you know?
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I also think going back to something earlier, I
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: think there are those gay men who, um, the majority
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: of their friends they've had sex with at some point
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: because everything started off as a grinder hookup or a
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: dating situation and, and then became friends. And then there's
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: people that like have friends who, Oh no, like that's
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: off limits. That's my best friend. I think that's where
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: a lot of my friendships fall into. Even some of
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: them where I'm like, dang, if they didn't give me
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: an opportunity and say, yes, even though we're friends, I
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: don't think it would ruin the friendship, but, um, you know,
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: one of, one of my good friends, uh, uh, one
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: of my best friends in Atlanta, it started off that way. I,
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: he came over, we just like connected on Instagram and
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: it was, um, a situation where I thought I was
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: catching signals of like, Oh no, this is going to
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: be a hookup and he's very handsome. And I realized
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: that he wasn't reciprocating any of the like little shoulder
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: things that I was doing on the couch. And, and
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: so finally I just checked in. I was like, Hey,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: I want to, are we not? And he's like, I
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: really think you're a great guy and I would like
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: to be your friend. I think we have a lot
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: in common. I was like, okay, great. And I just
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: felt like it's such a mature moment situation is a
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: lot more seamless for us.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Like it's like, we still need each other. Like our
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: community is so small. It's like, if you see somebody
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: of value, you're like, I still need you.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: You know, like, I'd rather not fuck this up, yeah. Yeah,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I can walk into.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Any Starbucks and meet a straightie, you know?
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course with women and men hooking up
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: and stuff, it's very rare that they can stay friends after,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and then the next person is like, you're not fucking
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: having lunch with your ex-boyfriend.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: There's no way that this girl.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Is coming over, or is coming to our wedding that
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: you lived with for three years.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Like, enough.
• 48:53
  Speaker 8: Totally.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Like, what the hell are you talking about?
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And 90% of heterosexual people would be like, I agree
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: I think that that exists in the gay world too.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: The last, the last guy I dated for a little bit,
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: which we'd only been seeing each other for a week
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: at this point, but his best gay friend was coming
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: over for a movie night. I thought nothing of it,
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: but he sent me like this whole paragraph of like, Hey,
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: I just want to make sure that, you know, like
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: this is totally platonic. He and I have never hooked up.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: We're just having a movie night. And I was like, Oh, okay.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: We're not even officially.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: Yet.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: Like, thanks for telling me. But also it made me
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: feel sad for, I guess his previous relationships where maybe
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: there was like a shit ton of jealousy.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Someone probably was super jealous.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: Like, Oh my God, you can't have another gay man
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: inside your apartment. Like that, that kind of control I
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: think is, I also try to like, hold things loosely
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: and not, like until it's a thing that I really
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: wanna hold on to. And I hadn't decided yet at
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: that point. And we, you know.
• 49:48
  Speaker 9: Good for you.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Good for you.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I can get cash out for me also.
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: Before we move past this slide, can I just point
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: out the fact that it says Trixie Mattel.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: At the top.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, we love Trixie. I think it's just because I
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: look like her. Oh my God, that's so funny.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Do you get that?
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, all the time.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: Just because we're bald, white, gay men, but I'm sure
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: out of the 11,000 comments, Probably 2,000 of them say it, Trixie.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: How did you guys come up with the mmm?
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: Girl, tone of voice. We wanted to be as bimbo
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: as possible, but like a gay bimbo. So it's a
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: mix of like a Kardashian, but like gay male Kardashian.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: I also think the mmm is at the person a
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: lot of times as well. Like, oh, you're single? Yeah, yeah, sure.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: I love it so much.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite. This is me and
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Gay's toast at your wedding. This is so hilarious. So
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: it's you guys are doing a toast for a female
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: friend of yours who you never thought would get married.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: So it's all.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: We're not a fan of her husband.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: And you keep messing up the M name of the husband.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: It's so fun.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: OK, this one's really cute.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: OK, can I ask you to do one for me?
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Please.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I invite you to my vow renewal, which
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I've never had. Okay. I'm going to have it.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: Is that actually coming?
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think vow renewals are so lame only
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: because any friend that I would invite- It's like different
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: than a wedding. Because in a wedding, someone's coming and
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh my God, you guys are so cute together.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited for your future. A vow renewal, anybody
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: that's there is like either like, thank God you guys
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: made it.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Or they're like, this is a bunch of bullshit. They
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: fucking hate each other. So I just think that's weird.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Like if we did anything like that, I'd want it
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: to be like just my immediate family. But in this case,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have a big to-do. And it's a big,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: it's for our 24th wedding anniversary. I'm not going to
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: wait till 25 because the year might, the world might end.
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: So true.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: And I'm really excited to invite you guys to make
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: a toast.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: What's your husband's name?
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Peter.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: Peter, great.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: So Paul, I mean.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: Pedro.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: Pedro, Peter. It's just, we are honored to be here
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: today to celebrate something that I think you guys just
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: wanted more security on, you know, such as your relationship.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Not everyone does a 24 year wedding renewal, but
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: you know, you guys had an idea and you went
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: for it and that's so brave.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: And I just feel like it's beautiful that you feel
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: like you need to prove something to all of us
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: that your relationship is super healthy and secure when really,
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: you know, I would say Paul, I mean, what's his name?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Paul.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: Pablo.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Pablo.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: When your relationship with Pablo is just, you know, we
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: see the things behind closed doors because we're so close.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: And Pasquale, you really bring a lot of the... You
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: really bring a lot more personality to Heather because she,
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: as we all know, is lacking in that department.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah. We can tell you both really need one another.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: A big part of her personality is just saying that
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: she's married.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: But Heather and Paul, good luck.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Good luck. We wish you the best. And we will
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: see if we see you next year.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Brian.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Excellent.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Excellent.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: That was off the cuff. We tried to involve that baby.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I will say that I have joked and said staying
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: married is my brand.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people don't.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: Do it for the kids.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I do it to give other people hope. To stay married.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: So important.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Because anytime a big couple breaks up, they're like, no!
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Like Kyle and Maurice do at Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: People are like, we're done. We're done. We thought you
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: were going to live forever and stay together forever.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: I do think if Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively ever
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: broke up, my heart would shatter. Oh, the world would
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: be rocked.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: The economy would tank.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: See, that's a lot of pressure on them.
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: It is.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: What if she's miserable and then she knows that you
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: guys are gonna be devastated?
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: With Ryan, let's be real. Well, also, like, celebrities of
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: that caliber, too, like, they don't, unless they are traveling
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: with them. Let's be real. I'm saying, unless they're traveling
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: with them, you see each other one month out of
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: the year total. Like, he's always off filming a movie,
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: so is she. Like, everybody's doing their own things. Like,
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I think their marriage is much better than Justin Timberlake
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and Jessica Biel.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: I'll give them.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: Let's hope.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: What about Scarlett Johansson and what's his name?
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: I know from Colin.
• 54:32
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: I like them.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I think they're solid. They have a kid, right?
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: I also think that was like an unthought of connection
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: that nobody really saw coming.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: I just want to look at Aaron Goldenberg White. I
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: just want to look at all those.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: All I did on the TikTok is I just wrote
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: mean gays and then all of it stopped.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: It gives suggestions for what it thinks the video related
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: terms might be. So I just I'm obsessed with that.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: So this one was mean gays come to your funeral.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I really want to talk about your costume choices. I
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: was about to say the wardrobe department on this one.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: You went with a great look, which is a blazer,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: no shirt.
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you so much.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: And you look like you created a shirt that had cleavage.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: So what's crazy is that shirt was bought. That was
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: a shirt for sale.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: It's made for men.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: Is it in the men's department? It's made for men.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: And my breasts look huge. Your breasts are huge. I mean,
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: not in this photo, but like once I get.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: Closer, it was... We really... We could not.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Keep a straight face because I was just like, I
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: was given the full show.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: The bloopers are full of Jake going like, oh my God,
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: I look ridiculous.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I love the bloopers, but doing a
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: funeral is so great. I... I worked on this show
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: called Lyricist Lounge, and I came up with this idea
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: because I found that one thing I loved doing would
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: be when I was a little girl and just normal
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: TV was on. There would be a funeral for a
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: cop or something on the KTLA 5 channel. And I
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: loved watching funerals. I loved hearing all the speeches.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: I loved it.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: How old were you?
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I was like.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Six.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I watched a lot of TV. My parents worked.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: That explains a lot. And I was like, I want
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: to be. So I created this character with this other
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: guy who played my gay assistant. And we did this call.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: And I was a funeral stylist. And I was like,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: let's do the music. And we're like, we're not doing
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Stairway to Heaven. It's been way too done.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: Too many times.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: We are not doing that. We're going to do something
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: fresh and different. And da, da, da, da.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: And so I love people doing. making light of like
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: the worst thing on earth, which is death. And so
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: the fact that you did like an open casket and
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: you guys coming and the camera is looking up from
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: the dead person and you're still giving shade.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: So funny.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad you think so.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: This is my personal favorite.
• 56:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Genuinely.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: How did you.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Think of this one?
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: Honestly, it was just a day where I was typing out,
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: like just kind of, brainstorming all the different possibilities of
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: like where we could take these characters and funeral came up.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: I was like, that's fucking hilarious. I need to write
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: this immediately. And yeah, I do.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Um, you know, like we were talking about, it's Octopussy, right?
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: With that, the guy on TikTok, is that his name?
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: The one that does all the like, um, historical things.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: Um, Past that puss.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think I know this guy.
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: It's past that puss.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And they're like, they'll say like, act like you're John,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: act like you're the person signing after John Hancock and
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: how much space he took. And then he does, but
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: he does it as like a person today.
• 57:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Like so annoying, you know, like it's really, really funny.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: He's blown up.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: He's like, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hilarious.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: And like, or, you know, like Abraham Lincoln buying his
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: signature hat.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: And like first there's another hat and then how he
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: falls on it.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: He literally just does, he does video. It's brilliant.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: But it's a lot of suggestions.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: He takes suggestions from the comments. From the people.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: So how are you starting to get suggestions that have
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: given you any ideas of like, we want to see
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: the Mean Gays go to visit Santa or whatever?
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: We, There are a fair amount of like suggestions like, oh,
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: the Mingay should babysit or whatever, which, and there have
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: maybe only been two comments ever in all the videos
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: that have like really sparked my imagination.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good idea.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's really fucking funny. Yeah, that's funny. But I
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: don't think we've gone on to like then make that video.
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: I'm not against it, but it's also like, I mean,
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: when you get to 4,000 comments, there's no way I can,
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: scroll and read and respond and really take all those in.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was like so conceited.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: I was thinking the same thing.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: I was like, okay, girl, shit.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you have 4,000 comments. You can't expect.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: Those comments are just on Instagram. That's not even the
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: TikTok comments.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: I feel like we hear a lot of suggestions from
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: like close friends.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: We do, yeah.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: A lot of close friends will be like, you should
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: actually do this. That'd be amazing.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: And close friends, so Sarah, the girl that was behind
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: the camera for the baby shower one, I had written
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: it out, but she came out with like several good
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: pitches for like brand new scenes that we had to
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: plan for. And we did them because I was like,
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: that's fucking funny.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: We're open-minded girls. We like to improv on the spot.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: If we deliver a line and we need to retake
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: it or it sounds better and it'll hit harder a
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: different way, we just go.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I love like discovering when people are doing strong characters,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: like a series like on TikTok and I've brought several
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: people on the show because of it.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Cause it's like, that's really was.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: My background as Groundlings was like, you know, these strong
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: characters and point of view and stuff.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, did you go to Groundlings?
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: You've only mentioned it.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: A couple times, so I just wasn't sure. I know.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I mentioned Groundlings, USC, being Catholic, and being married.
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: And being married. Every show.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're married. And everyone really... Do.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: You ever time how often you say it?
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: No, but the.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Haters, they like to.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: They were like 30 seconds in on this one.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: The haters are the best because they're like, when I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: come across their hate on their groups or whatever, they'll
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: be like, I don't listen anymore to Juicy Scoop, but...
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: At the 36th minute, she went off and tried to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: take credit for this.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my God, this is amazing.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: You definitely don't listen.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Anyway, but I did this character. Now, it's another thing
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I talk about is Chelsea Lately. So when I did
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: this character, Chelsea Lately, it was Chelsea's makeup artist. And
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: we'd be on the road and I would just be like,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: she is a know-it-all. She's like this woman, but like
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: she's lived this life that there's no way she could
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: have done all these things.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: So then- Like very much giving Alexis from Schitt's Creek.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: And so I was like, so then I would, they'd
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, Kathy Griffin is coming. Or
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I did it one time with Kelly Osbourne. And I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: would do her and I called her Regina. And her
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: real name was Gina. And then like Chelsea's like, I go, Chelsea,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: like this still is your makeup artist. And she still
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: said what I'm dealing with. And she knows I'm doing her.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And so I'm like, she's like, I don't care. It's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: fucking hilarious.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: That's why I fuck with Chelsea.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: And then I'm like, so then.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I'd have to do, and I'd be like, actually, to
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Kelly Osbourne, I was like, I actually wrote the song,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: whatever the most famous song was. I was like, yeah,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I was hanging out with your dad. It could have
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: been your mom. So she can show a little respect.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: And Kelly Osbourne's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: And you know what I was like, and I'm doing
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: like a horrible makeup artist. I never am doing anything
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: to their face. And I'm just like talking about, I'm like,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I'm actually like almost a heart surgeon. I went to
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: medical school and like that kind of thing. And I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: think that's, what's so funny when you, when you land
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: on something good or Becky Robinson, she does this thing
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: called the entitled housewife. And she is like this woman
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: who plays golf, who's definitely an alcoholic and has two kids.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: And I love her.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: She's going to come on the show. She's a really
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: funny standup, but then she, but she started doing this character.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: She had these other characters she did, but sometimes something
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: just hits. And it's cool because then with her, there's
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: a huge audience.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Like if she goes to.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Florida, All these women come and they wear the visor
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: and they wear their golf outfits.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: And they're like, we all have to go.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: And so that's why I think it's fun what you
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: guys are doing. I love that this girl wrote, I
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: found one of the mean gays and this was Fashion
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Week or something.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Someone was trying to.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Get in and the gay bouncer or whatever this person was.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: I don't remember what happens in this video. I just
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: know he's like is telling her off. and checking her heart.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: I remember it was pretty vicious.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 9: It was like, ooh!
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: It went very viral.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: I was like, you really found this video. Love it.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: And then there is the point of view, the thirsty
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: gaze invites you over for some fun. Now, I thought
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: these were some of your friends that you helped self-produce,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: helped produce this for them.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Like a little extension, a little empire.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: A little Ryan Murphy franchise.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, universe.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: So one thing I've noticed with all these great creators
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: like yourself and creative improv character study people is I've
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: noticed people are doing like derivative type of stuff. You know,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: like a girl that's now holding her keys, but she
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't work at the restaurant. She's an obnoxious teacher. You know,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: something like that. And that's coming from another girl that
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: was the girl working at the restaurant, whatever. Have you
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: found that there's anybody that's kind of doing derivative people
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: of you sketches?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: We've been either sent or seen on our timelines. Definitely
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: like people that have either done like their own spin
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: on it or like there was one guy that did it,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: the complete script, but just in Portuguese, you know, which
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: obviously would be for a brand new audience that we're
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: not reaching. So I think sometimes it's... But that's not cool, right?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: I think sometimes it is flattering where I'm like, hey,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: a new audience is getting that joke.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be the proper way to be to stitch it?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: Or hopefully at least tag and give credit. I think
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing. This was so cool. We wanted
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: to translate this for other audiences.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: For me, I think when there's an extension.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is giving credit. I think
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: if anybody on TikTok or Instagram or wherever... made their own,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: like the mean gays, blah, blah, blah. I'd be like, Hey,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: that's kind of our thing. Clearly our thing. We've made
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: like 20 videos at this point, you know, like, um,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: maybe come up with your own idea. I don't know.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: But I, I think, I think the, the line gets
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: so blurred on social media, unfortunately, because there's so many
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: things that come out as like a trend. So like
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: somebody did the joke first and it's like a five
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: second music clip and it's this very funny punchline and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: then a 10,000 people do that same thing. And it's like, oh,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: you did the water challenge or whatever it is. So
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: people then see these original written sketches and like, oh,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: this is like the mean gaze trend or the whatever trend.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: It's like, well, no, actually this is a little bit different.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it really is like the wild, wild
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: west of like, you know, entertainment.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: It's really hard.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: And also, you know, even with stand-up, it would be
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: people would accuse someone of taking their jokes. And you'd
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: be like, well, I mean, we can all come. Tinder
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: is a big topic. Like, maybe my Tinder joke is
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: similar to yours. I've heard very clearly word for verbatim jokes.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that was this guy first.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: I've accidentally done it myself.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: Explain accidentally.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, I will. So I've actually posted a video talking
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: about straight men are so gay for like loving football
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: and going into stadiums and watching guys wrestle in leotards.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: I fully put the video out. I had never seen
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: content like that before. And then there was a standup
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: reel that came across my page, pretty much going into
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: the same concept. And it's the idea of like, these
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: thoughts are no longer that original and we're struggling for
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: these threads of originality and the crossover of like, I'm
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: so sorry. So I commented in the video I saw
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: realizing it was posted before mine saying like, I'm so sorry.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: There's a video on my page that performs pretty well.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: This was truly out of like just innocent intent for
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: me to speak to.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: I think, I think things like that.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: Well, they never got back to me because their video
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: was huge and.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think it was ever an issue, but when
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: you do come across ideas that are similar to yours,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: such as like a lot of people are playing on
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: like this Hallmark trend recently.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: And it's like, people have been joking about Hallmark movies
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: for like seven years, you know? Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: And how many different ways can you do that? Can
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: you really blame somebody for playing on the classic tropes and.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: Like, almost the exact same line. Yeah. So it's, it's,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: it's a wild, wild west. I've had that happen before though, where,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: some big historical event happens or like, especially during the
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: Trump administration, there was like material for days. And like,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: I would be, I would think of this joke from
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: something that, from an interview or something that happened and
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: be like, oh, that'd be funny. Maybe I'll film that tomorrow.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: And then tomorrow when I haven't filmed it, I see
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: a guy with the exact same video concept that I'm like, oh,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: it really just is about who jumps on it first.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Right, which is why I said it is important to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: jump on it first if you have the idea. And
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: there's times where I'm like, oh my God, I know
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: so many people are going to do that. And sometimes
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: they don't, you know, but.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: That's, you know, what is true.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: And I also feel that like, What I've learned, and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: thank God I'm like a creative person, whatever. And I
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: have gotten frustrated with, you know, the imitation or whatever.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like when you dig
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: it to a certain level and then you call out
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: like a smaller creator, it.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Can also make you look really bad.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: And it's almost better just to be like. whatever.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: I've let most of them go. I DM'd one creator
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: because it really was joke for joke, our video. And
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: they just put a slightly different twist on it, but
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: it was joke for joke, angle for angle, everything. And
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: they didn't credit us. So I was like, hey.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: And what was their response?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: As a fellow writer, blah, blah, blah. You guys did
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: a really funny thing. I would just appreciate if you
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: decide to do anything more with these characters that maybe
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: it's an original concept and not shot for shot our thing.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: And they responded back In a nice way, thankfully. It
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: was pretty amicable. And they were like, I'm so sorry.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: We literally didn't even know this video was going to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: blow up. And yes, don't worry about it. I'm going
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: to credit you right now in the comments. And also,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: any new videos, if we decide to do these characters again,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: will be something original.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: It is just sometimes frustrating when somebody copy copy.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: But I DMed them. I didn't call them out in public.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: I didn't make a post about it and be like, wow, somebody,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: you know, I feel like that can come across tacky
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: in some ways.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: If you guys ever.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Need to do something more, you could just create Classy Gays.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: It's a classy move. I don't think it'll be as funny.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: As Mean Gays.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: I don't think it'll hit as hard.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think it'll be as funny.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Watch, it won't.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Then you'll have to go back to the Mean Gays.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: I think it would be like we tried to clean
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: up our act and we called it Classy Gays.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: I did a character that was like just the rich
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: gay uncle and I was like super affluent and just
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: making the most just... ignorant comments of all time and
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: that was really cute.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: I think I saw that, yeah.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, maybe I'll play on that a little bit more
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I think the idea is like Hopefully the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: original intent and all this is you just giving like
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: this idea kind of felt in the vein of like,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: for me, I've made a few videos that are in
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: the vein of Benny drama or Benito Skinner, who I adore.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: And I think because I adore him so much, I've
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: made content that is kind of a little bit of similar, similar.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: And I always just say like, this feels really in
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: the same vein. It's out of love, but I always
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: credit it.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: So it's kind of like, and I've told you every
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: single time I'm like, I know that, Benny's not going
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: to see this and get offended because you're not stealing
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: his jokes. You're not stealing a character. You just are
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: a quirky, funny gay like Benny. And I love him.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: I love him, love him. So hopefully it's all out
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: of love.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: Personally, I don't think anybody would see Jake's video and
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: be like, oh my God, he's totally stealing, you.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Know, because he's still writing his own original stuff. Things
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: that might've bothered me even two or three months ago,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: I'm proud to say I'm like evolving and it really
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't bother me anymore because when I really think about it,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is not going. So another thing my
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: dad said, you mentioned your dad twice today.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: He's dead.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: It's okay.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, stop bragging that you're an orphan.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: I wish my dad was done.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: No, but it was, it was like, what would I
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: even say?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: What would my dad, what would my dad say?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: She's like, what did my dad always say?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: It's not going to.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Change my lifestyle.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: It's not going to change.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Someone isn't stealing the Coca-Cola sign from you. And this
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: was your home.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: It's one little thing. You're not going to lose your house.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: You're not going to have to start driving a different car,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: you know, but there are certain things that other people
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: do that can be damaging to like your character, your brand.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: And it's like copywritten or whatever. And I say, go
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: for that. But I do agree with like, To go
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: like after someone, you know, might not be worth it.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: I think we're trying to build like this common decency
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: with creators where it's just like we're always going to
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: cross paths with like originality, whatever that means. So hopefully
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: we just create a culture of like giving the flowers
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: when it's needed, putting up a post saying like this
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: was a lot like this and I love them.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: But I do think. It is, my opinion flips when
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  Speaker 5: it's a larger creator that steals from a smaller creator
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  Speaker 5: and doesn't give credit. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: That's like the punching up, punching down.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: And there was a, I can't remember her name right now,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: but I was talking about it before we started where
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: she did like all these different people you meet on
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: a movie set. So like the director, the producer, the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: makeup artist, the craft services. And she did that years ago.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, I guess like a month ago,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: this other large creator with millions of followers or a
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: lot of followers, copied the exact same thing, shot for shot,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: even used the same song. And a lot of people
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: were tagging the original creator who this creator did not tag.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: And she was going through deleting all of their comments.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: And then the creator got wind of it because a
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: lot of people had sent it to her. And so
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: she commented like, hey, a tag would be nice, deleted
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: her comment. So she did make a thing about it.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: And that I do agree with. I think that's justified.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I totally agree. And you know what could also be
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: happening in a case like that is, and I think
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: this has happened when stand-ups have been accused of stealing
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: material or whatever. Like, I remember work, well.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've mentioned this, but I think about it.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: So when I worked on.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Keaton Everway's late night talk show, he had a late
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: night talk show as my first job and I was
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: 27 and he liked doing like evergreen monologues. So they
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: weren't about politics or anything. They were just like, you know, roommates,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: having a roommate, whatever. and someone would pitch something, or
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: he would even come up with something funny, and the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: writers in the room would go, Keenan, that's really funny,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: but Joe Schmo has a bit like that. And he
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: was like, cool, that's what you guys are here for.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: You're out in the clubs, you need to tell me, da-da-da-da,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: I don't want to know.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: And I always, so when a bigger person is accused
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: of it, and it's pretty much they did, I'm like,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: who was around her or him that didn't do their job,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: that might have been lazy, And also, say this bigger
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: creator that took this idea. We don't know if she
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: hired somebody who brought that.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: As an idea.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: Who said, hey, there's a fun trend you should do.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Brought or not even trend. I have a funny idea.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Because they remembered it from three years back and this
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: girl or guy didn't. And then there are the ones
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: also that are all like, holy fuck, I got caught.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: They're the ones who's actually in charge.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Of deleting all the stuff. So I'm saying this person
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: might be totally innocent.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 10: Sure.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: And they don't, they, you know, didn't deliberately steal anything
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people at that level are like, hey,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: I've got three, two or three people working with me
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: I want you guys to bring me ideas I want
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: you to tell me what the latest trend is I
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: want you to come up with fresh ideas for me
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: and this has happened I remember in um oh my
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: gosh I forgot his name but he was a writer
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: on SNL years ago and he wrote a book about
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: it and he told a story of how he was
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: desperate for pitching he had to pitch ideas as a
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: he just kind of remembered something from the clubs and
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: he pitched.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: It and it made it.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: And in the book, he absolutely like.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Admits, you know, it. And I remember reading it and
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's just something to be really conscious
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: of all of us. And even sometimes when I say
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: something like, and it's coming to my head, I'm talking about,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know where I saw this.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: I just know it isn't mine.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I know it's not mine, but I thought it was
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: funny because I don't want anyone to say that I
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: took something. And lots of times I do give credit,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: but other times I don't because if I'm talking for
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: an hour, I mean, I don't want to stop. Yeah,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: but I don't want to act like I thought of
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: it originally.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: There was a time, again, I think during the Trump
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: administration where I was really into watching Stephen Colbert, Seth Meyers,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: and probably Jimmy Kimmel or something. And there had to
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: have been 15 or more times where they posted basically
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: the same joke on the same night because that piece
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: of wordplay or whatever came in and the joke just
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: came naturally. So I'm sure they're completely separate writing teams
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: who weren't intentionally trying to steal anything from each other
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: made the exact same joke. It doesn't really happen anymore.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: So maybe they're a bit more intentional about it or
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: try to go further removed from the first thought of
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: whatever punchline came naturally. But I saw that happen so
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: many times and I was like, damn, this is so interesting.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: I think it's kind of, I think as a creative person,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: you got to let that shit go.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: You know, and it's like I had, I had Chris Frangelo,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: a comedian on my show, and he said a really
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: funny joke. And that night, Jimmy Kimmel or somebody said
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the same joke. Now, it could have been what you said.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: Or.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Someone could be listening to Juicy Scoop and they're getting
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: ready that morning. They go to the offices. They have
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: to submit their jokes. They heard the topic. It's a
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: hot topic. I mean, there were times when we would
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: watch American Housewife or something.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: It was a sitcom.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: And my kids would watch it and I would watch it.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: And there was stuff in there that was like straight
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: out of my special. And I'm not necessarily accusing someone
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: of that. But it was pretty specific.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 8: I'll do it.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: I've accused them.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: It was pretty specific.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Jokes and things.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, listen, I understand if you're a writer
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: on a sitcom and it's about a family, I would
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: be following female comics that have families. I would be
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: looking at really popular YouTube. You can't blame someone. And then,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't word for word, but it was
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: like a concept, like a story I told that happened
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: with my family.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: And then that same story was like displayed on the show.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: And, but I was always, I was like, Who cares
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: when you're gonna file a lawsuit over it? No, you're
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: just gonna come up with something else. And it's better
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: just to let it go. But it is annoying when
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: you see somebody come up with something that copied you
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: and it has so much love and the comments are like,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: you're hilarious, you're so original. And you're sitting in your.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: Apartment and you're like, I came up with it first.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: But then if you make a big deal out of it,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: then they're like, the mean gays have become unhinged.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: They're hysterical.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: They're egotistical.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: They're the worst.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: And, you know, they really are mean.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: And then it's better that you're like, yeah, I think
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: you handle it really correctly.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: One last thing I want to do before we plug
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: all your stuff.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: Love.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: I want the mean gays, not the real people in
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: front of me, the mean gays.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: What you're going to say.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: To each other as you enter the elevator after I
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: say goodbye to you about what you experienced today as
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: the mean gaze.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: So I will not take offense.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Go for it.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: So you saw as much pink as I did, right?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And did you also smell the quinoa as soon
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: as we walked in?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: It was really strong.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: It was just like was on our breath the whole time.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: That's crazy.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: And do you think she just like steps into every
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: interview just that willy-nilly?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't seem like she prepared at all. Also,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: her assistant seems miserable and probably isn't getting paid.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's child labor laws because it's her son.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: It's her son.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: But I think there's a law like if it's family,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: you don't have to pay them.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: I don't really hire my family for stuff.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: Crazy.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, this is our car.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's our car. Here we go.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: That was perfect. I love it. That was perfect.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: The quinoa actually was the first sensation I had when
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: we walked in or whatever it was that you were eating.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: I was eating a meal from Fat It is one
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: of the sponsors of Juicy Scoop.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: And it was delicious.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: It smelled good.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: It was all healthy.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: It was vegan.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: And it took two minutes in the micro. And I
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: had a healthy meal.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: Juicy Scoop, sponsored by Factor. Yeah, exactly. Get your first
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  Speaker 2: So we have yours.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: It's J.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Jake Jones. E. ZZ.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: Jones with the Z. No S.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: And this is Instagram. And are you.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: This is the same handle on both Instagram and TikTok.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: I'm also trying to make it on YouTube. So we're
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: crossing our fingers here.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: I love it. Okay.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: And you?
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: Aaron.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: Aaron Goldie boy in all the places. Instagram, Twitter, TikTok.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's cute that you took Goldenberg and made it
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Goldie boy.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. A friend of mine in high school used to
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: call me Goldie and I just thought it was cute
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: and endearing.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: They called my brother-in-law who's Goldstein. is they call him Goldie.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: And then I'll call my nephew and stuff when he's
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: playing tennis.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, Goldie.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: So when I was making a username eventually when I
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: decided to join Instagram, I was like, Goldie boy, that's cute.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Look at that. And it's A-A-R-O-N. That's correct. Goldie boy.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 7: Goldie boy.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: You guys are really killing it.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: And you were in the Grinch. Here in L.A.? I.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: Mean, How the Grinch Stole Christmas at the Pantages.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: What was your role?
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: I played Papa Who, Cindy Lou Who's dad. Daddy Who?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: Daddy Who. It's Daddy Who to you.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: You're a zaddy?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're at the Pantages. It's a gorgeous theater.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Yes. When's the last night of that?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: The 17th here in L.A.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: And then we go to Costa Mesa for a week
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: and then we close in Sacramento.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's fun. Yeah.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: Go to GrinchMusical.com for tickets if you're interested.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: And then what are you doing for the holidays?
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: I'm still doing content full-time, and then I'm working on
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: my first musical EP.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: That's what you're doing on Christmas Eve? I said what
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: you're doing for the holidays.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, for the holidays.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: I have no plans. I've got the smallest family, and
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: I think we're going to play it really cool. We
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: do something for Christmas Eve.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: And your family lives in the same town? Atlanta area. Yeah.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: That's really nice.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I love your friendship. I hope you don't break
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: up and it get ugly. I wish you successful 2024.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: You're welcome to come back anytime.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: I would love that. And also I would like to
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: go out. Yeah.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: And like have a fun meal. Have a fun meal
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: and be bitches together.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: Let's do it. That's possible.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: Anytime you want.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: I'm very, very young.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: And you both are very cute and you both have
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: wonderful skin.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: There's not one hot, one ugly.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: No, there's two glowing delights.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: She confirmed it.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: She did.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: And I trust her.
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