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S1E11 - 'Starry Night' · Dished at Birth

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Last night was good. I had fun. You did? Good.
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I did. I don't know if it's just like since us
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becoming friends now when I'm in a space, I'm
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like... You think about the sound environment?
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Well, I'm like, I know that Kara can't hear me
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right now. And then I have started to be like,
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and I hate that. And second, now that I'm thinking
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about the sound environment, I'm also realizing
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that I have negative feelings about the sound
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environment. Were you playing music? Like soft
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Christmas jazz, very low in the background. Okay.
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I feel like I used to have parties and they didn't
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echo like the way they do now. I don't know if
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I've just gotten louder friends. Maybe. Do you
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have less soft things to absorb? I would argue
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I have more soft things. If anything, I've added
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some stuff. Well, no one wanted to come in here.
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That's true. Paolo was making fun of me because
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he was like, I just was watching you constantly
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pull people into your sensory cave. I know, you
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were really trying to. And be like, come in,
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come in. Get more people in here. It's because
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my ears hurt. Also, people love to congregate.
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For reference listeners, my whole apartment is
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very decorated, especially right now, and usually
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very mood lit. It's a fun apartment. And people
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love to congregate in my brightly lit, not festive
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at all kitchen. That's true. They love the kitchen.
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They love the kitchen. And it's probably the
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least functional, like, fun space to be in in
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my apartment. It's near the drinks. Could that
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be why? And also, maybe it's easier to see people's
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faces when you're speaking. Maybe everyone's
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hard of hearing. Maybe. But I also have a lot
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of friends that are autistic and don't like the
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big light. So, like, I gotta find... You gotta
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do a poll of all your party goers and see where
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they like to congregate and why. Yeah. I basically
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also, after you left, started, like, going up
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to people and being like, you can sit. Because
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no one was sat... I was like, someone has to
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sit down. OK. And everyone was like, but no one
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else is sitting. I'm like, OK, one group has
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to. And then others will follow. Yeah. That's
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why I was the first to eat s'mores. Yes. I said,
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who's going to be brave enough? That was my job.
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To do this. And it's because a Trader Joe's person
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was checking us out. I was asking him about the
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graham crackers I was getting. And I was like,
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we're doing s'mores at this party. I'm a little
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worried about it. I feel like people aren't actually
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going to eat the s'mores. He was basically like,
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well, you have to make sure that someone leads
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by example. Because everyone will be scared.
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And that was me. I stepped up. How was Ireland?
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It was really fun. I had a lovely time. We stayed
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with some friends in Dun Laoghaire. Which is
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a town in Dublin. We called it like the Forest
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Hills of Dublin. We only spent one day in Dublin.
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So I didn't get to really see a lot of it. But
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it's a really pretty city. And I did a little
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road trip to Cork, Killarney, and Galway. That
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was really fun. We did not get a chance to go
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to Deaf Village because it was the holiday season,
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and I should've thought of that. But next time we
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go, I will definitely go to Deaf Village. Yeah,
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you think you're going to go back? Oh, for sure.
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Highly recommend going to Ireland, guys. It's
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really fun. I also think they had a high respect
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for sign language because they have such a high
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respect for indigenous languages because they
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are a colonized country rather than a colonizing
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country. Yeah. So there's a lot of pride over
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the Irish language. And I think there is a lot
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of respect for sign languages as well. I noticed
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a lot of commercials had Irish sign language,
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which is pretty cool. Oh, that's sick. Yeah.
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Wow. And like no one's seemed fazed when I had my
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deaf time at a coffee shop. They're like, sure.
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Yeah. Highly recommend going to Ireland. The
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whole country is like that meme that's like when
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you're cool with everybody. Yes. Like Ireland
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is like. Everyone is delightful. Everyone except,
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they're like, we love everyone except fucking
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England. No, literally. Should we get to the
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show? We should get to the show. Cool. Okay.
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It's. Season 1 .5, really. Yeah. I feel like
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I'm like, oh, they got a budget. They got a budget
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now. Because they got all those extras for East
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West Fest. But this is season 1, episode 11.
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It came out January 3rd, 2012. So they had their
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little fall break. And then this aired, in the
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winter. Just like we had our little winter break.
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Welcome back, guys. Yay, welcome back. Thanks
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for listening. And it's titled Starry Night. Wow,
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I wonder what painting. I wonder what painting
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that could be. And I think that's... Only because
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it's that one scene where Emmett and Bay look
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up at the sky at night with stars. I don't think
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the writers are really thinking that hard. I
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think they just think of one still from the.
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From the episode and they're like ah yep that's
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the painting. They said time to do our big one.
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Yeah so we start off with Bay and Emmett and they're
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Facetiming on her iPhone 3g um and I guess because
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the way she's in the frame Emmett cannot see her
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face or her hands at the same time. Yeah. So he's
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not understanding what she's saying. Which is
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funny because then Daphne swoops in. Yanks the
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phone from her hand and basically does the same thing
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just framed better. But basically what Bay was
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trying to tell him is that Angelo is moving to
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Kansas City. And that was it. And then there's
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a family meeting about Angelo. And John lays
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out three rules. One is that Angelo cannot come
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to the house. Which feels good for protective
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for Daphne. Yeah, I think that's fair. Two, he
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can't be with Bay and Daphne alone. And three,
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all calls need to be monitored. I think the last
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one's a little crazy. Yeah, I think that's...
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He's being a little intense. Yeah. And Daphne's
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like, I'm fine with these rules. And Bay is like,
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you are preventing me from any chance of getting
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to know him. Yeah. And I really feel for Bay.
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I feel like everyone's ganging up on her. I know.
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Literally, someone says, there aren't sides here.
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And someone else goes, yes, there are. They say
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it. Bay and Daphne at the same time say, yes,
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there are sides. And like, again, Bay doesn't
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have any like. We're going to say poor Bay for
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the entirety of the show. For the rest of the
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show. But just especially in this meeting, it
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is so fucked. And she says later in the episode,
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like, Daphne gets access to my dad whenever she
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wants. And I have to schedule time. And go through
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all these hoops. And go through all these hoops.
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And everyone is expressing their negative feelings
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about it at me all the time. It really isn't
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fair. It's not. It really sucks. At this point,
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also, Daphne goes like, can't you guys do something
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about the fact that he's moved to Kansas City?
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Like, she wants him deported. She was like, he
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can't be in the city. I'm like, you can't control
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that. Yeah, I feel like at this point, her and
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Angelo should just, like, sit down and hash it
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out. But, yeah. It doesn't seem like Daphne is
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agreeable to anything right now. No. And I understand
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why. I think she needs to, like, dump all of
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her anger on him. But also, I think she needs
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to yell at her mom. I know. She should have yelled
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at Regina more in this episode. And Bay's like,
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I'm sorry, girl, but Angelo and I, we're going
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to a jazz club tonight. Which... I guess it's
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for all ages? When we got there, I was like,
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this does not seem like it's for all ages. No,
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and we're going to get to that. I have thoughts
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on it. And then East West Fest, they've got money
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now. There's so many extras. We have a new location.
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Yeah, new location unlocked. And then it's revealed
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that obviously they're not opening for the Cold
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War Kids at the festival. I can't believe Toby
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believed that. He's so dumb. And Wilke's like,
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I can't believe you would think that either.
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So they're playing on the D stage. Stage D. Way
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out. And I guess they're playing. The same time
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as Arcade Fire. This really dated the show. I'll
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be honest. I would go now. I like Arcade Fire.
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I had so many questions about this fictional
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music festival. Like, is it free? Is it just
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camping? Like later we see just people camping
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like wherever at the festival, which is just
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like not how festival camping works. I have never
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been to a music festival, so I'm kind of clueless.
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So I have and it's a lot of bureaucracy. It's
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a lot of like wristbands and different sections
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for different people. You don't sleep at a music
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festival. You can camp at a music festival. Oh,
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you can? Yeah, but it costs so much money and
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usually you have to reserve your spot months
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in advance. Obviously, this is like a small regional
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music festival, but then the headliners are like
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kind of huge bands. Yeah, Cold War Kids and
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Arcade Fire are quite a big get, especially for
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that time. Yeah, so this doesn't, it doesn't
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feel very realistic. Points off for the fact
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that I was like, where are they? Later, there's
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a lake that Daphne's like putting her feet in
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and there's no one around swimming in it. Everyone
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would be getting high on molly and jumping in that
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lake. Yeah, it's just not realistic, but that's
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okay. This is a TV show. And then Kathryn,
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back at the house, she rents a horror movie for
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her and Daphne to watch. She says it came out
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in closed captions and would we watch it together.
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And I, to me, that's love. That was really sweet.
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If someone recommended that, wanted to watch
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a movie that they don't necessarily enjoy, but
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they know it's accessible and fun for me, that's
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love. Kathryn also makes a reference. She says,
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I haven't seen a horror movie since Amityville
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Horror. And the way she said it made me think
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that it was like a reference. I think she's saying
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it came out a very long time ago and I'm old.
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But also, is she in it? Or is she like in a sequel?
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I actually don't know. Google it. Yeah, she's
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in Amityville 2. That went over my head. Just
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the way she said it, she was like almost winking
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at the camera. She plays... A babysitter in Amityville
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2. When did that come out? 1984. That makes sense.
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Babysitter. She would have been pretty young.
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Yeah. Because my first guess was like, do they
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go see that movie in Back to the Future? I haven't
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seen Back to the Future since I was like 12.
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Yeah, me either. Even earlier than that. I'd
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like to watch it again, though. It's really good.
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I love Lea Thompson. Bay and Regina are also
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having mother -daughter time. For once. She's
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painting her nails. And Bay just basically asked
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Regina to talk to John and see if he can back
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off about her meeting with Angelo. When did John
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forgive Regina? Like, it hasn't been that many
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episodes since they found out that she knew.
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No. And I think that Angelo showing up has just
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overshadowed the fact that they're also pissed
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at Regina still. Yeah. Because, like, Regina
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should not. She shows up and she's like, I have
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a coupon for the car wash, but I think it's expired.
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And he's like, well, we can fix that. Kind of
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a weird scene. And then she's like, let's have
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a heart to heart. And he seems so cordial and
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nice to her. Weren't you like, I'm going to get
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custody of my children and have her not in my
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house anymore, like three episodes ago? Full 180.
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But instead he's like, okay, so I won't go see
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Angelo. How about you chaperone instead? Which
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like he trusts Regina to do all of a sudden?
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They all seem to be on the same side of being
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sort of anti -Angelo. Except Regina is not anti
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-Angelo. But they don't really know that. Oh,
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yeah. The lawyer shows up at the Kennish house.
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Yes. Because they have a plan next week to meet
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the nurse who Angelo found that worked a double
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shift. But the lawyer is telling Kathryn, like,
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something smells fishy. I'm worried that Angelo
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promised her a cut of the money from the case
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and maybe that she's going to lie and that will
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put us all in trouble. Yeah, but she comes to
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the house and just privately talks to Kathryn.
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She's like, I just wanted to make sure that you
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know that you have a voice, too. And Kathryn's
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like, yeah, like I'm an equal part of this lawsuit.
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And this comes up later. And it comes up later.
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But later on, she says to John, you railroad
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me sometimes. Is that a term you've heard before?
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Yes. OK, because I thought it I like steamroll.
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It's like steamroll. So I think it's the same
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thing. I understand it has the same meaning,
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but I guess I'd never heard that before. Yeah,
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I guess railroad is just the tracks. Yeah, it's
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thrown around a lot in this episode in a way
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that I'm like, I don't think that word means
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what you think. Yeah, I think steamroll would
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be better because railroad, you're just talking
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about the tracks rather than like the train itself
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going over you. To me, it almost feels sexual.
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Like you railroad. You railed. You railed. It
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makes me think of railed. Yeah. Sure. You railroaded.
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So I was just like, yeah, I was getting distracted.
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Oh, and there's also. Yeah, that's true. A lot
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of words. If you railroad someone, you're giving
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a to the train conductor. That's my definition
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now. Perfect. I love that. We should popularize
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that. Thank you. Bring back trains. OK, so then,
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yeah, Regina is like, OK, I guess I'm going on
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this daddy daughter date with Bay and Angelo.
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And she comes home to tell Daphne. Yeah, and
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Daphne is once again the backbone of the household.
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Making dinner for the family. She's making eggplant
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parm. Yeah, she's making dinner and she's like,
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do you want a salad too? Like she's the housewife.
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I know she likes to cook. But it's every meal.
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It's a home -cooked meal every day, it seems.
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I've never seen them eat leftovers. No. Doesn't
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she have a life? Regina, for the love of God.
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Just like get in there and put some Stouffers together
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or something. I don't know. You can do it. You
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can do it. And she's like. I'm actually not coming
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to dinner. I'm going on a date with my ex -husband
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who I've raised you to hate. But Regina's like,
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I think I painted too harsh a picture of him
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and now you hate him too much. Girl. Like, she's
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not even that apologetic about it. She's just
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like, oops, I think you have the wrong idea.
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Yeah, he was actually nice. She's like, I actually
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lied. I actually misrepresented it so it'd be
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easier for you. It's so fucked. It is. Daphne
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has no idea what's true and what's not. No. And
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Regina's a liar. She cannot fathom the idea
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of Angelo being in anyone's life because that's
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the way Regina talked about him or the lack thereof.
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Or maybe Regina never talked about him so how
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could she have any positive idea of him? Yeah.
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And Regina's like, well, there were good times
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and Daphne's like, well, I never heard of it.
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Yeah. Why would I know? I like, I have so much
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sympathy for her. Well, Daphne angrily storms
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off into a room and she tries to phone Emmett,
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but I guess there's no service at East West.
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I don't know, but the screen being like a headshot
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of him and it was like, Emmett Bledsoe unavailable.
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And he had his huge throwing up a peace sign.
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Love. It was funny. But we're back at East West Fest
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and the boys are trying to promote their gig.
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Yeah, they're fucking lying to everyone. Fucking
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lying about what genre of music they are. Wilke
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says at one point they're ska. Yeah, he sees a punk
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guy. He's like, we're heavy metal. Yeah. And
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we meet Simone Sinclair. New character just dropped.
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And we know it's her because she walks up and
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Wilke has to say, Simone Sinclair, to let us
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know. Who is this actress? She is played by Maiara
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Walsh. And she was Meena in Cory in the House.
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Yes. And she was also in Desperate Housewives.
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Yes, she was. She was. I love her, but I feel
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like she always plays kind of an evil character.
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She's really good at playing an evil character.
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She has a great bitch face, respectfully. And
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we can tell right away that the vibes with her
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and Toby are really strange. Yeah. Toby's like,
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Hi Simone. And they're making weird eyes. She's
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also very intrigued by Emmett. Yeah, who's this
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deaf boy? Even more intrigued when she finds
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out that he's Bay's boyfriend. Yes. Which, like,
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back off, girl. And we, the audience, finds out
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that she is Bay's ex -best friend. Yes, Toby
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alludes to a friend breakup situation, not very
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tactfully. After the introduction, she's like,
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I gotta run. I'm seeing Helen Mirren's Cleavage
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play. Great band name. Great band name, which
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is not real. I googled it. I googled Helen Mirren's
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Cleavage and I just got pictures of her boobs.
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That's not a terrible result. No, it wasn't.
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We're back at the Kennish house and Bay is getting
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ready for her daddy -daughter date. And she's
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wearing a tight... studded black mini dress yeah
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with a leather belt yeah and then John. With leggings
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underneath. And leggings underneath. And John's
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like change your clothes. She has this moment
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with Kathryn before John comes in and says
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that where Kathryn has that mom instinct for
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like saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.
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Like I think Kathryn was about to say something
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and then she was like you look nice. Well she
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definitely was but then she goes like out of
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the blue they're standing there she goes, you
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aren't going to call him dad, are you? And that's
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just so like a thought that would pop into a
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mom's head. And they'd be like, this is a perfectly
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normal thing to say out loud. Don't put that
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on her. No. That's an inside thought. And then
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it's also an inside thought, John, to come out
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and be like, you look too sexy to go on a date
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with your dad. Stop sexualizing your 16 -year
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-old daughter. Yeah. I always thought it was
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weird when parents said that. I'm like, why are
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you? Even putting them in that context, like
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it's your brain doing that. I also think it's
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a safety thing. But like she's going with Regina.
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That's true. She's going with her mom and that's
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a different situation. If she was, I don't know,
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maybe going alone to a party. I don't know. She's
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a teenager. Let her express herself. Yeah. Let
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her show off her boobs at the jazz club if she
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wants. She wants to look grown up. She wants
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to look grown up because she's going to a very
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adult venue with her dad instead of like a cafe
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on a Sunday morning. Yeah. I know they should
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be getting breakfast. They should not. They should
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be going to a diner and getting pancakes. Also
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to go and listen to jazz. Don't you want to talk?
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And then Regina shows up in a very nice blue
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dress. She's going on a date with her man. She's
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going on a date and her daughter is going to
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be there. It's so weird. We're back at the festival.
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They're complaining about the beer being $7.
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That was so painful to me. I wish beer was $7.
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I know. And then they're like, you know what
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we should do? Change our band name to Free Booze.
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Toby says it jokingly, but then Emmett and Wilke
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are like, that is genius. They're so dumb. They're
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so dumb. So they start writing on the back of
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the flyers, quote unquote, Free Booze playing
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today, stage D, whatever time. Like, obviously
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that's not going to go well. Now we're at the
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jazz club. This is a date spot. It's mood lighting.
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It's a nice little lamp in the corner. People
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are drinking wine. There's jazz piano playing.
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And then we find out that this is a spot that
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Angelo took Regina. I think that's weird to bring
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your daughter. They're kind of reminiscing about
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it. And she would come when she was pregnant
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with Bay. And Bay seems interested in the fact
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that they're talking about like, oh, yeah, we
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used to come here when. Yeah, because no one's
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giving her a grain of information. Yeah. So she
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thinks that's cool. So I think that it was the
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right call in that sense, if that was his motivation.
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I just think maybe later in the relationship
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once you've gathered more of an understanding
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of each other. I mean, he's not doing it well.
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Does Bay have any aunts and uncles? We know nothing.
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And we still know nothing because Angelo and
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Regina start fighting almost immediately. Yeah,
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he orders a wine and then he offers Regina wine
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and she goes, no, I'm sober. And she's like,
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how could you forget that? Which I agree with
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her. I think I would remember that. But I think as
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the adult in this situation, you can keep that
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thought to yourself because it's not about you.
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She says at the beginning of this, this night
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is for you guys. Like, act like I'm not here.
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The two of them start bickering in front of Bay.
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Yeah. And then she's like, how could you forget
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that? I don't know, Regina. Shut up. And poor
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Bay is just sitting there. Yeah. It's upsetting.
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Kathryn is at home. She's making caramel popcorn.
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She's getting ready to watch the horror movie. She's cooking
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up a storm in there. There was so much popcorn.
19:28
It was the biggest bowl of popcorn I've ever
19:30
seen. And she's rocking a squirrel apron. I don't
19:33
know if it's the same one. It's the same one.
19:35
I finally saw it. It's says squirrely. That's really
19:37
cute. It's so cute. That's her look. And Daphne
19:40
says, sorry, girl. Rain check. I'm going to East
19:42
West Fest. I had a question about how you interpreted
19:44
this. Obviously, she's going through a lot. Do
19:46
you think this is purely innocent? And she's
19:49
like, I really need my friend right now. And
19:51
I need to not be in this house. So I'm going
19:53
to go. Or do you think she's like, while Bay is
19:56
out at dinner with Angelo as revenge I'm gonna
19:59
fucking drive out there and try to fuck her boyfriend.
20:01
I think two things can be true. I don't think
20:02
she wanted to fuck Emmett but I think she was like
20:05
I want to get out of here and get some space
20:07
and I need to confide in my friend who I miss
20:09
very much and I'm going to take advantage of
20:11
this time because Bay is hanging out with Angelo
20:14
and also if something does happen with Emmett, great.
20:18
And she also doesn't help herself because she
20:20
Does what she does later. So, yeah, she's like,
20:23
I'm going to take off. She's being, like, innocent
20:25
and sweet, too. Kathryn's really hurt, but
20:28
she's like, okay. But it's okay, because she
20:30
ends up watching the horror movie with John.
20:31
And they're being so cute. Also, do you remember
20:34
3D TVs? Because they're wearing their little
20:36
3D glasses to watch the movie. That was a 3D
20:38
TV? Yeah. Or was the... The movie's 3D. Okay,
20:42
but the TV was not 3D. But, yeah. But I do remember
20:45
they used to have them. Back in the day, you
20:46
couldn't watch 3D movies. like without a 3D tv
20:50
like it had to be 3d capable. Yes I think I remember
20:54
that. I never my parents never really bought like
20:57
3d dvds. So my brother bought a like special 3d
21:01
capability tv when Avatar first came out in 3d
21:05
on BluRay okay And I remember he was like,
21:09
put the glasses on. Like, we're going to watch
21:11
this. Was it like the cardboard red and blue
21:14
ones? I think he actually got like nicer ones.
21:16
We'd already seen it in theaters. I was like.
21:18
It used to make me so dizzy. I remember seeing
21:20
Spy Kids 2 specifically in theaters in 3D. Yes.
21:23
And getting so dizzy. But they're being cute
21:26
watching it. But then they pause it because they're
21:29
not really into horror movies. And then Kathryn
21:32
has a moment of being like, I hate Regina still.
21:35
Like, I can't believe we're entangled with all
21:36
her bad choices. I know. And then John's like,
21:39
well, at least we're seeing that nurse from the
21:42
lawsuit. And Kathryn is still very wary about
21:45
it. But John is, like, jubilant about the money.
21:49
He's railroading her. He's railroading her. In
21:52
a sense. He's railroading her. In a sense. Yes,
21:55
exactly. And he's like, let's just go read. And
21:57
turns off the TV without checking in on her.
21:59
And, like, gets up and leaves. And she's like,
22:02
oh. Okay. Okay, bye, John. I've been railroaded.
22:05
Well, Kathryn, she just wanted a little mommy
22:07
daughter night. I know. She was trying. It's okay.
22:11
Daphne gets to East West Fest. I don't know how
22:13
far this festival is. It's very unclear. But
22:16
she leaves at night and she gets there at night.
22:18
Yeah. This, I was cringing out so bad. Well,
22:21
first of all, she somehow manages to find Emmett's
22:24
tent. In the sea of tents. All the tents look
22:27
exactly the same. Well, but his has a little
22:29
Gallaudet University patch on it. Great catch.
22:32
I did not see that. That and then like a sticker
22:35
for Guitar Face. And then she looks inside and
22:37
she crawls. She unzips this tent and crawls right
22:41
in. Snuggles up to him. She snuggled up to him
22:44
inches from his face, grinning ear to ear. He
22:47
doesn't wake up. He doesn't wake up. That was
22:49
my question for you is like, are you a really
22:51
heavy sleeper with your implants off? Because there's
22:54
a lot of jostling. No, I would say I'm a light
22:57
sleeper. Because one, I can feel the vibrations
22:59
of someone walking into the room. I think when
23:02
A and I first dated and they came in the room
23:04
in the middle of the night, coming from work,
23:06
I would wake up. But then I got used to it because
23:08
my body was like, that is your wife. It's okay.
23:11
You're safe. But I think if you're sleeping in
23:13
a tent outside with like a thousand other people,
23:17
I think your body would be maybe on higher alert
23:19
if someone walked into your tent. I guess Emmett's
23:22
a man. So maybe he doesn't have instincts. Maybe
23:25
he got a lot of $7 beers. Maybe. But they don't
23:28
explain that. He's a heavy sleeper, but that's,
23:30
yeah, whatever. It's really creepy to me. What
23:32
was her plan? Because she says to Kathryn,
23:35
like, I'll just tuck into Toby or Emmett's tents.
23:38
It's now inappropriate for her to do this with
23:40
Emmett, I feel. Especially the way she does it.
23:43
I think if she had been like, I'm just crashing
23:45
in your tent, and she's like on the other end
23:47
of the tent. Like, pushed herself to the other
23:49
side of the tent. Faced away from him. Whatever.
23:51
Just in there to sleep. Fine. Whatever. They're
23:53
friends. I'm not going to sexualize that. That's
23:56
fine. like friendship intimacy yeah but I do
23:59
feel that her and Toby are not close enough for
24:01
her to do that with him. Yeah me neither so like
24:04
what she like didn't really leave herself a non
24:08
-creepy option. She should have just buy a tent at
24:11
REI. I'm sure the Kennishes have many tents. I'm
24:14
sure they have a tent and a very nice one at
24:16
that. Anyway back at the house Regina's like gives
24:20
Bay the most half -hearted apology for what happens
24:24
with Angelo. She's just like do you know those
24:26
people that just like really push your buttons
24:27
that's what he is to me so yeah sorry. And then
24:31
Bay goes um maybe next time Kathryn will be
24:33
my chaperone. Yeah. And not you. Yeah and then Regina's
24:36
also like why didn't you tell me that you were
24:38
dating Emmett because she finds out at dinner that
24:40
and Bay rightfully is like girl we never talk
24:43
I'm so glad she yeah she goes it's not like you
24:46
and I tell each other everything. Regina deserved
24:48
that. And then she comes inside and she looks
24:50
dejected so then John is like, are you okay?
24:54
And she's like, this is such a typical teenage
24:56
thing. I would have done this too. But she gets
24:58
defensive and is like, yeah, I'm okay. Yeah,
25:01
you thought I was going to suck, but I'm
25:02
fine. Yeah, he didn't kidnap me. And then John
25:05
is like, he's like, Angelo wants to take you
25:07
somewhere else tomorrow. And Bay seems like she
25:11
doesn't want to go. And so then John is like
25:12
- Well, he was like, I can't go. Or if you don't
25:14
want me there, Adriana can go. Kathryn can't
25:17
go. I think it was just hearing all the planning.
25:19
She was like, no, I'm just going to go to East
25:21
West Fest. Yeah, but first John is like, well,
25:24
if you don't want to go to the Kemper with him,
25:26
do you want to spend the day with me? I thought
25:28
he was kidding. I think he was being earnest.
25:31
Oh, I didn't catch that. I think he was in his
25:34
like clunky dad way of not reading the room being
25:37
like, oh, okay, you don't want to hang out with
25:39
him? Do you want to do something with me? Like,
25:41
I think he was being really serious. It was really
25:44
sweet. Now that makes me feel bad for him. He's
25:46
feeling insecure and he wants to spend some time
25:48
with Bay. And Bay does not want to. She says,
25:50
no, I'm going to East West Fest. And he's like,
25:52
oh, Daphne's already there. She beat you. And
25:55
Bay goes, oh, she's there? Oh, really? She's
25:57
there? I didn't know that. And then in the morning,
26:00
Emmett wakes up. This is like the opening of
26:02
a horror movie. I would scream. Why is she laying
26:05
there awake, eyes open, grinning so much? Staring
26:08
at him. Staring at him. I hated it. He should have
26:13
screamed his head off. And he yeah is naturally
26:15
like um what the fuck what are you doing here
26:19
and also this is weird and she's like what don't
26:22
make this weird. Girl you made it weird. You made
26:25
it weird. Your vibes made it weird. And he's like
26:28
what the fuck are you doing here get out of the
26:29
tent. Yeah. She gets out and then Toby sees him
26:32
get out of the tent and I think he rightfully
26:34
assumes what we would all assume. Yeah the visuals
26:38
aren't great. The visuals don't look good and
26:41
she's like nothing happened he goes it's seven
26:43
in the morning. Why are they all waking up so
26:45
early? I don't know. At this music festival. Maybe
26:48
they have a really early slot maybe like a 10
26:51
a .m slot for the band. Okay yeah that would make
26:53
sense. And then Toby confronts Daphne about it
26:57
because Daphne storms off and he's like well
27:00
you can see why I would think that and she's
27:02
like obviously I'm not the kind of girl who would
27:04
do that. I don't know, Daphne, you kind of give
27:06
the vibe that you are. Yeah. Sometimes. He probably
27:09
doesn't know that, but I see it. And then Toby
27:12
goes, okay, I'm sorry. I just get defensive of
27:14
my little sister, Bay. Yeah, because she's my
27:16
little sister. Which I think is sweet, but then
27:18
Daphne does not take that well. What the fuck?
27:20
Me too. And it's like, yeah, that's not the same.
27:23
They grew up together. It's different. It's different.
27:26
Again, when I was thinking of like, it would
27:28
have been so weird for Daphne to crawl into Toby's
27:31
tent. What Daphne would have done with Toby,
27:32
though, is wake him up and be like, hey, Can
27:35
I sleep on the far end of this tent? Yeah. Like,
27:38
she should have done with Emmett. Honestly, the
27:39
person that would have made the most sense to
27:40
get into their tent is Wilke. Like, she should
27:43
have just gone and slept. Oh my god, yeah. You
27:45
know? That's who I would have picked. Sorry.
27:47
Yeah, great. Basically, she should have brought
27:50
her own tent. Or been like, okay, I'm finally
27:52
going to sleep with Wilke. And then Bay shows
27:54
up at the festival, and she sneaks up on Emmett.
27:57
Bay comes and says, surprise! Yeah, so I wanted
28:00
to ask you about that. Bay sneaks up behind Emmett.
28:03
And covers his eyes. Not my thing. Yeah, I feel
28:07
like that's not good to do to a deaf person,
28:09
right? It's not my favorite. I won't try it.
28:12
I don't like being snuck up on when I can't hear.
28:15
It scares the shit out of me. Especially like
28:17
they're at a music festival. With a thousand
28:19
people. Thousands of people, lots going on. That
28:22
could be anyone. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like it.
28:24
No, not a fan. If I'm brushing my teeth and I
28:26
don't have my implants in and A is behind me,
28:29
I will scream. And it happens about once or twice
28:31
a week. I go, oh Jesus. And then, yeah. Yeah.
28:34
It's not my favorite. I wouldn't like it. But
28:36
he's happy to see her. And she quickly takes
28:40
her place on Emmett's arm in front of Daphne.
28:42
Things are so tense. Like, this scene was, I
28:46
was like, this is so uncomfortable. You guys
28:48
got to figure this out. Yeah. The day passes
28:51
a little and she's telling Emmett about the family
28:53
reunion at the jazz club. They're ordering food.
28:57
And Emmett does what I like to do is type in
29:00
my order on the notes app. And then show the
29:03
order to people working at the restaurant. And
29:06
he orders tamales, I think. Yeah, for $4. I know.
29:09
I miss 2012. Yeah, dreamy. Some parts. Usually
29:13
when I type an order on my phone, they figure
29:16
out right away that either I can't speak English
29:19
or I am deaf. They usually start gesturing and
29:22
trying to engage with me in a different way.
29:24
But this guy at the food stand is not getting
29:25
this. No. He's like, what kind of salsa do you
29:28
want? Come on, I don't have all day. Come on.
29:30
He's a dummy. And Emmett is about to choose because
29:33
the guy at the food stand holds up red or green.
29:36
Emmett is about to point to the salsa he wants.
29:38
And Bay picks it for him. And he's like, oh,
29:41
he'll just take that. And Emmett is not happy.
29:44
I think he walks away. He's just like, I have
29:46
to go. I think he leaves his tamales with Bay.
29:49
And he's like, I got to go. My set. It's time
29:52
for the band to perform on stage D. And the audience
29:54
is pissed because, again, they thought there
29:56
was free booze. So they're booing. They're throwing
29:58
things yeah. But they try to win them over with
30:01
their sound. I don't think it really works. No
30:03
it doesn't. Daphne's in the crowd for like one
30:05
second and she's yeah then Bay pulls off her
30:08
shirt and reveals a tank top that says I'm with
30:11
the drummer. It's kind of cheesy. I think it's kind
30:14
of cute I'm sorry. And Daphne sees it and flees
30:17
the scene. Yeah and daphne's wearing the like
30:19
twee Taylor Swift Zoey Deschanel striped top,
30:23
and she's rocking a horse girl side braid. Yes,
30:26
she is. It's a rough look. It's really painful.
30:29
And Wilke clocks that she leaves. So Kathryn
30:32
goes to the children's hospital where Bay and
30:34
Daphne were born, and she ambushes the nurse.
30:37
Yes. The nurse is played by Justina Mercado,
30:39
who I love. She was in Six Feet Under, which
30:41
is... One of my favorite TV shows of all time.
30:44
She's also in Jane the Virgin. She's also, I
30:45
think, on Desperate Housewives. And she was also
30:48
in One Day at a Time on Netflix. Yeah, I really
30:50
love her. She's a great actress. She rocks. Love
30:52
you, Justina. They're talking about the switch
30:55
and her working at the hospital. And Kathryn
30:57
at one point is like, why didn't you say no when
30:59
they asked you to work a double shift? And Brizia's
31:02
like... Okay. You privileged white bitch. Yeah.
31:05
She says it's really easy to judge from inside
31:07
a Mercedes, huh? Yeah. Because they're sitting
31:09
inside Kathryn's Mercedes. Yeah. But she's
31:11
like, no, I've worked with many families, but
31:13
I remember your family because John was famous.
31:15
This monologue made me emotional. Like I really
31:18
felt for her the way she was like, I made sure
31:20
to hold the baby because my parents were fans
31:22
and I wanted to tell them that I'd held the baby.
31:26
And when I was holding the baby, I remember I
31:28
felt really jealous of her, which is like crazy.
31:31
But like just thinking of how easy her life would
31:33
be. Yeah. And then, yeah, she thinks she worries.
31:36
She doesn't know for sure, but she worries that
31:37
she put her back in the wrong. Yeah. She was
31:39
like, I put her in the crib. It may have been
31:40
the wrong crib. I really don't know. I was overworked
31:43
and overtired. Yeah. And that was kind of it.
31:46
I really felt for her. I really did. She tells
31:49
John that she went to see the nurse and John
31:50
is like, what the hell? Without me. And then
31:53
Kathryn goes, well, sometimes you railroad.
31:55
You railroad me. And I can't think for myself
31:58
sometimes. And then he apologizes. And he does
32:01
admit that Kathryn needs to stand up for herself
32:03
more often. Yeah. Which I would love to see.
32:06
And then back at the festival. The gig is over.
32:08
Emmett is already moody from the tamale situation.
32:11
Yes. Some guy grabs Emmett like at the back of
32:15
his shirt angrily. And he's yelling about how
32:18
He was promised free booze. Yeah. He didn't get
32:20
it. Which. He seems drunk enough as is, so it
32:22
should be fine. Yeah. And Bay goes, hey, he's
32:26
deaf. Leave him alone. And the guy looks horrified,
32:30
and then he storms off. Yeah, he backs away like
32:32
he's a monster. Like he's contagious. Yeah, literally
32:36
like he's contagious. It also doesn't look good
32:39
for your optics to beat up a deaf guy. So I think
32:41
the guy was like, oh, I'm out. Yeah, maybe that's
32:43
why. And then get canceled if I beat up a deaf guy.
32:46
Thoughts on this? Because obviously Emmett gets
32:48
very upset. He's like, what did you say to that
32:51
guy? And she says, I said you were deaf. And
32:54
he storms off. I feel like this is just him being
33:00
mad about the earlier situation. Yes, I think
33:03
so too. If a guy is about to beat you up, wouldn't
33:06
you want to play any card that you have in your
33:08
arsenal so that you don't get beat up? Do you
33:11
think Emmett should have played that himself though?
33:13
Instead of Bay doing it for him? Emmett would have
33:15
just pointed to his ears and went, what? What
33:18
girl? I feel like in that moment, that wouldn't
33:21
have worked as deescalation because that guy
33:24
seemed drunk and belligerent. That's true. Like,
33:26
I think he would have just gotten punched. We
33:28
Don't know that, though. We'll never know. Yeah,
33:30
that's true. Maybe alternatively, Emmett turns
33:33
around, points at his ear, and before the guy can
33:36
see anything, he just whacks him across the face.
33:38
But I think that's not what it's about. No, I
33:41
don't. It's about Bay not really understanding
33:43
the rules of what the world is like as a deaf
33:46
person. Okay, wait, let's jump ahead then to
33:49
them resolving this because I want to talk about
33:51
it. Okay, yeah. So later after that scene, Bay
33:55
goes to apologize to Emmett. And she says, you
33:58
know, this is all new to me. I'm still learning
34:00
about what it takes to be a partner of a deaf
34:03
person. How am I supposed to know the rules?
34:05
Yeah, especially because he says, don't use my
34:08
deafness as a defense, which I think is fair.
34:10
But then Bay says, but it's okay as a hook? To
34:14
get you into East West Fest. Yeah. Because he
34:16
told them they have a deaf drummer and he goes
34:18
that's different and but and then she goes well
34:20
how am I supposed to know that's different? Yeah
34:21
and I think that that's fair. I think it's so
34:24
fair. She says how am I supposed to know the rules
34:26
and the way this fight resolves is that Emmett
34:28
says stick around. That's not fair. If there are
34:32
rules that you are like I shouldn't even have
34:34
to say them but she's not picking up on them,
34:36
say them. You should say the rules instead of
34:38
being like you just need to stay and figure it
34:40
out. Even write them out. Write on the list. Like
34:43
if someone goes and yells at Emmett, don't do
34:45
anything. If someone asks Emmett what salsa he
34:48
wants, wait a minute. I also think some of it
34:51
is male pride. And she's like, how much of this
34:55
is because I'm a girl? Girl and I'm hearing. And
34:58
he goes, it's both. Yeah. Which like a little
35:01
bit, it's like Emmett. Like if you're in a relationship,
35:03
you should let your partner help you not get
35:06
beat up. I think that's so fair. But they never
35:08
talk about that specific part again. It's mainly...
35:11
The tamale thing. He was like, I would be annoyed
35:13
too, to be fair. Yeah, but it's just her first
35:16
time. But it's her first time. And I know that
35:19
once she learns, she won't do it again. Yeah.
35:23
Like, she seems very receptive. So, yeah. And
35:27
then... Emmett, in the middle of the arguing,
35:30
grabs Daphne to interpret for him, which, ouch.
35:33
Yeah, that sucks for a bit. That sucks. But I
35:36
thought it was a really beautiful moment. Yeah,
35:38
Emmett says... which I wholeheartedly agree with.
35:42
He says, the way I engage, this is how I engage
35:44
with the world. It's by gesturing and pointing
35:46
and signing. And hearing people, their responsibility
35:49
is to stop and learn how to interact with me.
35:52
And it's not your job to do that, basically.
35:54
And he's right. You know, like, sometimes when
35:57
I, the example I'll say is that when I go out
35:59
to dinner with some hearing friends who also
36:01
know sign, I request that they don't voice to
36:04
the waiters. Because usually what will happen
36:06
is, I'm ordering from the menu. I point to what
36:09
I want. And then they'll talk to A or maybe you
36:13
and say, so what does she want? And then you
36:17
have to like voice for me or speak for me. And
36:20
I usually request that if everyone can sign,
36:23
that we all sign to force the waiter or whoever
36:26
to interact with us in a different way rather
36:29
than voicing, which is what Emmett is doing. Yeah.
36:32
He's like, they will figure it out. They will
36:34
survive. I was annoyed at this part, though,
36:36
because we can't see his signing on the screen.
36:39
We only see Daphne's face and her voicing. But
36:42
I think that was also really important for hearing
36:44
audiences to see. So I really enjoyed that little
36:47
monologue. Thank you, Emmett. And they do have
36:49
this sweet little heartfelt conversation where
36:51
they're looking at a starry night. Yeah, they're
36:54
looking up at the stars. And he's like, isn't
36:57
this so peaceful? And she's like, no, there's
36:59
actually a lot of, like, annoying sounds going
37:02
on around us. Like, it's not that peaceful. Yeah.
37:04
And I liked the flip that he was like, oh, it's
37:07
my turn to empathize with you, you poor little
37:09
hearing girl. He goes, I can't imagine a world
37:12
where I couldn't tune out. That sucks for you.
37:14
Yeah. And that is something A says to me nearly
37:17
every day. I am so jealous that you can just
37:20
take off your implants and tune out. And I'm
37:22
like, yeah, sorry, girl. I get migraines. So
37:24
sometimes I wish I could do that with my eyes
37:25
because I get ocular migraines. I'm like, I wish
37:27
I could just like take them out or twist them
37:30
off and put them on the table. Oh, God. Like
37:32
Mr. Potato Head. I wish we could do that with
37:34
all our body parts. That'd be awesome. It's like
37:36
when I'm getting dressed. I'm like, I like my
37:38
boobs. They're fine. But sometimes I'm like,
37:40
this outfit would be so much better if I could
37:42
just take them off. I know. A and I talked about this.
37:44
Like we wish our bodies were modular in some
37:46
way. Like take off the hips and put them back
37:48
on. Yeah. Later or take out the boobs and put
37:51
them back on. We should work on that. Let's work
37:53
towards that. Yeah. We're going to crack that
37:54
case. But also in the scene, I don't know if
37:56
you noticed this, but Bay's like, it's not really
37:58
peaceful. Wilke's in the back making fart jokes.
38:00
There's a sign name for Wilke. Oh, I did not
38:02
clock that. It's the W and it's over here. Like
38:05
he's pushing back his hair. Cute. Go Wilke.
38:08
Go Wilke. And so circling back a little bit
38:11
ago, Wilke's the real hero of Daphne's day.
38:14
Because after the set, he goes and he finds her
38:17
and she's on the dock. Pity party at the pier.
38:20
That's what I wrote. Love that. Pity party at
38:22
the pier. Yeah she's soaking her feet in the water
38:24
and he comes up and he's like where's Edward
38:27
at? Twilight mentioned. But he's just trying to
38:29
make her cheer up it's cute yeah he's kind of
38:32
like are you bummed because he's off with Bay
38:35
and she's like it's really not about that. It's
38:37
sort of about that. But it's mostly about the
38:40
other stuff. Yeah but she's like there's all this
38:42
shit going on with Angelo. Yeah. But at the end
38:45
of the day it's because I can't talk to Emmett.
38:48
Well, I can't confide in him as much about all
38:50
this family situation drama that's happening.
38:53
Yeah, because she feels like Bay took him. Yeah.
38:56
And she goes, I wish I could just take my brain
38:58
off and put it to the side. Modular. I wish I
39:01
could just take my brain out and everything would
39:03
be quiet. And then Wilke goes, well, what if
39:05
you took your hearing aids out? Thank God Wilke's
39:07
real dumb most of the time, but he's like, those
39:09
probably can't get wet. He said, I think those
39:12
are really expensive, actually. Yeah. Ally. Ally.
39:15
He goes, can you take them off? And then. Pushes
39:17
her in the water. I personally don't know if
39:20
I would be thrilled about being shoved in the
39:22
water when I'm sad. But the fact that he takes
39:25
off his shirt and jumps in with me, it would
39:26
be forgiven. Yeah, man. That was crazy. Also,
39:31
it really works on Daphne. Oh yeah, she's smitten.
39:33
I wanted them to make out in the lake. They really
39:36
should have. So yeah, so she's feeling better,
39:38
basically. And that's why I later... I think
39:41
it's easier also for her to jump in and help
39:43
interpret for Emmett. So later on in the night,
39:46
we're at Regina's and she has just gotten off
39:49
the phone with her sponsor and she tries to lie
39:51
to Adriana. And Adriana's like, girl, you were
39:54
on the phone for a very long time. I think it's
39:56
wrong of Adriana to immediately judge Regina
39:59
for being on the phone with her sponsor. Like,
40:01
it's good that she's asking for help. Like, shouldn't
40:03
that be good for her? It's totally fine to ask
40:05
for help and maybe... You can have different
40:08
kinds of triggers. Yeah. It doesn't necessarily
40:10
need to be Angelo, but Adriana's like, Angelo's
40:13
back in your life for 48 hours and all of a sudden
40:15
you're calling your sponsor. And then to end
40:17
the night at the festival, Daphne's feeling much
40:20
better. She like offers Bay an olive branch.
40:22
She asks how the date situation went. And Bay...
40:27
like kind of signs like it's sweet she's like
40:30
trying to sign at the same time. Yeah. And is having
40:33
a hard time coming up with words but it's not
40:35
because of the sim com it's because she genuinely
40:37
is like I don't even fucking know what to say.
40:39
Yeah like I am speechless. Yeah it's bad but then
40:42
she's like did you get any of that and Daphne's
40:44
like yeah I actually like totally understand
40:46
and it's like oh right you guys are maybe the
40:48
only people that understand each other. It was
40:51
a sweet. Like what if you were friends just imagine
40:54
imagine you guys could be so powerful. But they
40:57
come to a nice mutual agreement that everything's
40:59
pretty screwy with the family. And then we get
41:02
an aerial shot. The camera retreats into the
41:05
sky. They got a drone. And the girls separate
41:08
to go into their separate tents. But we don't
41:11
know whose tent. I assume Bay is with Emmett.
41:13
Wait, I don't think so. She climbs into a much
41:15
smaller tent. Also, her and Emmett have not slept
41:17
together yet. Maybe Bay brought her own tent?
41:20
I think Bay brought her own tent. But then it
41:22
looks like Daphne is climbing back into Emmett's
41:25
tent. Like it's the same size and shape as the
41:29
tent we see him sleeping in earlier. So maybe
41:32
he's crashing with Toby or something and she's
41:35
sleeping in his tent. Maybe. They do not share
41:37
that. It would make more sense for Bay and Daphne
41:40
to share a tent and for Emmett to take Bay's
41:42
little tent. Yeah, I have no idea. I could not
41:45
tell you. My thought was Bay and Emmett were
41:47
going to sleep in the tent. But you're right.
41:49
They're not far enough in the relationship to
41:51
do that. And that Daphne just. Maybe is going
41:54
to sleep in Wilki's tent. Yeah. Which I think
41:56
they should have done. I would have. It's hot.
41:59
It's nice. It's cool. You're at a festival. You
42:01
got a little tent with a hot boy. Go for it.
42:03
Yeah, I don't know. The tent situation really
42:06
threw me off at the end. I have questions. Yeah,
42:10
they did not share where they're sleeping. I
42:12
guess, no. It's not important. It's important
42:15
to me. We're almost caught up to the place that
42:17
I was. Yeah I don't remember I think I'm caught
42:21
up to where I was when I tried my rewatch. Yeah
42:23
and then I stopped because we're gonna do this
42:25
podcast. Exactly. So guys we're really we're going
42:27
blind but thanks for listening for listening
42:29
guys and we'll see you next week. Bye.