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UK Column News Podcast 28th April 2025 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the twenty eighth of April
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK
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  Speaker 1: column News. I'm your host, Brian Gerrish and delighted to
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  Speaker 1: have been rubin with me in the studio and we
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  Speaker 1: are being joined by Diane rasmuson Macaddie by livelink from
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  Speaker 1: Scotland Plus. Today we have a guest, so stay with us, Ben.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get straight in on the importance of
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  Speaker 1: facts and truth and genuine media. And it seems to
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  Speaker 1: me at least that the government is doing everything it
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  Speaker 1: can to take utter and total control of free press
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  Speaker 1: and media.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Brian, Yes, we're in a war, a media war.
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  Speaker 2: We have been for some time. It's a war for meaning,
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  Speaker 2: a war for truth, a war for our minds ultimately
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  Speaker 2: and most important, a war for the minds of the
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  Speaker 2: nation's children. Let's hear from Chris Morris, CEO of Full Fact,
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  Speaker 2: speaking to the Lord's Committee on Communications and Digital in
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  Speaker 2: Westminster last week.
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  Speaker 3: Recently, the report came out from the Commission into Countering
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  Speaker 3: Online Conspiracy Theories in Schools, which was set up by
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  Speaker 3: the Pairs Commission, and I was part of that Commission.
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  Speaker 3: Two of the recommendations from I think are worth highlighting.
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  Speaker 3: One is that teaching on conspiracy theory should start in
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  Speaker 3: primary school. There's no point in waiting until the age
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  Speaker 3: of thirteen, when seventy seven percent of eleven and twelve
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  Speaker 3: year olds have already got social media accounts, and it's
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  Speaker 3: not too soon to start at the age of five.
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  Speaker 3: And Hannah's already mentioned Finland and we're probably not the
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  Speaker 3: first people to come before this committee and suggests that
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  Speaker 3: Finland might be quite a good example to follow because
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  Speaker 3: they seem to get a lot of things right and
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  Speaker 3: they teach children from a very early age how to
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  Speaker 3: recognize potentially harmful information. The second thing thing is, though,
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  Speaker 3: is that it's really important to empower teachers, because one
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  Speaker 3: of the findings of the commission was that many teachers
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  Speaker 3: did not feel they had permission to discuss sometimes sensitive
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  Speaker 3: issues of conspiracy theories. If a pupil came in to school,
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  Speaker 3: for example, said well my dad and my mum said
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  Speaker 3: this is does the teacher have permission from the school,
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  Speaker 3: from the local authority, from the Department for Education to
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  Speaker 3: do they have the permission to take on what that
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  Speaker 3: parent has said it's a very difficult position for the
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  Speaker 3: teacher to be put in, but I think it's really
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  Speaker 3: important that if we're going to set up a successful system,
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  Speaker 3: for teachers to feel that they are empowered to make
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  Speaker 3: those decisions. Separately, I think it's also really important to
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  Speaker 3: say that all of these things need to happen outside
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  Speaker 3: school as well, and they need to happen at all ages.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the government is I think right this government
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  Speaker 3: and the previous government rightly focusing primarily on young people,
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  Speaker 3: on children of school age. But for example, when we
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  Speaker 3: carried out focus groups last summer on misinformation and what
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  Speaker 3: it means to people, the overwhelming answer that almost everyone
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  Speaker 3: gave was old Uncle Stan or Auntie Betty got scanned
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  Speaker 3: by somebody online. That's what misinformation means to people. And
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  Speaker 3: then went on to say, well, how do you think
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  Speaker 3: we can counter that? Is they need to be taught
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  Speaker 3: how to understand to operate in the world which is
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  Speaker 3: moving so fast, and that where they feel left behind.
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  Speaker 3: So while schools and young people are incredibly important, we
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't forget the rest of society as well.
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  Speaker 1: Ben truly astonishing, clip really glad that you brought this
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  Speaker 1: into the start of the news today because what are
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  Speaker 1: we dealing with. Well, we thought they were soap manufacturers,
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  Speaker 1: but now apparently they are to help reframe the children.
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  Speaker 1: So what is he talking about? Indoctrination, reframing the teachers,
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  Speaker 1: breaking the bond between parents and the children so the
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  Speaker 1: state can get its opinion. And this is one of
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  Speaker 1: the most dangerous speeches that I've actually heard for some time.
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  Speaker 2: Ben his mind blowing, isn't it. Mums and dads, uncles
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  Speaker 2: and aunties are the problem, and empowered teachers is the solution,
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to be able to make decisions about
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  Speaker 2: the re education of your kids essentially and course correcting
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  Speaker 2: them when they make misstatements or have misconceptions about the
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  Speaker 2: way that the world is. I mean, it's absolutely astonishing,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest with you. And also right the way
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  Speaker 2: down to five year olds, he's talking about re educating
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  Speaker 2: or indoctrinating the early years school children. They have absolutely
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  Speaker 2: no right to be doing this. I mean, it's absolutely astonishing.
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  Speaker 2: Even if he's referencing it happening in other countries he
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  Speaker 2: talks about Finland, doesn't matter if they're doing it in Finland,
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  Speaker 2: they shouldn't be doing it in Finland if that's what
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  Speaker 2: they are indeed doing in Finland, and who is he?
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  Speaker 2: So that's Chris Morris. So we talked about Full Fact
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  Speaker 2: a lot over the years. I looked at the UK
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  Speaker 2: CONM website earlier. First interaction that UK Column had with
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  Speaker 2: Full Fat was in twenty twelve, which is basically when
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  Speaker 2: they were set up, so we were straight out the gate.
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  Speaker 2: Brian sent a very strongly worded letter to them because
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  Speaker 2: they had frankly misinformed the public about a story that
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  Speaker 2: we put out right even back then. And essentially these
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  Speaker 2: organizations have been established in order to deal with problems
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  Speaker 2: like the UK Column, and we are a problem to
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  Speaker 2: the establishment narrative, the establishment agenda. We brought diandas some
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  Speaker 2: excellent reporting on them last year, I recommend going to
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  Speaker 2: have a look at that. Essentially, what we're dealing with
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  Speaker 2: here is the vested interests and the financial backing of
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  Speaker 2: the BBC, the World Economic Forum, the un Sustainable Development Goals, Google, Meta,
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  Speaker 2: big tech companies, a bunch of supposedly charitable foundations like
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  Speaker 2: the ESME, Fairband Foundation and others who are seeking to
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  Speaker 2: control the minds of the nation's children. Right, and they
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  Speaker 2: are not just informing policy. Yeah, so that's Chris Morris
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  Speaker 2: talking to the House of Lords in Westminster last week.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously by information, they've asked him to come in and
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  Speaker 2: share his opinion. And he was very proudly the first
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  Speaker 2: fact checker the BBC and he was doing that role
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  Speaker 2: through COVID, so precursor to Marianna Spring and BBC Verify.
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  Speaker 2: He was the man who set that whole program up.
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  Speaker 2: But he actually references this report which comes from the
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  Speaker 2: Pairs Foundation. That's the Pears family, the soap manufacturer of Pairs,
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  Speaker 2: so very famously and very wealthy family who now have
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  Speaker 2: a foundation dealing with these issues. They issued this report
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  Speaker 2: last year about countering online conspiracies in schools. We really
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  Speaker 2: don't want kids going on the internet and finding out
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  Speaker 2: information that he's inconvenient to us. But they're not just
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  Speaker 2: advising on policy. We can actually see here this report
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  Speaker 2: was commissioned by these two individuals, Sir Trevor Pears, who's
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  Speaker 2: the scion of the Pears family, but also Sir mufty
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  Speaker 2: hammade Tell at the bottom, who subsequent to this report
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  Speaker 2: being issued, has actually been installed as the interim chair
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  Speaker 2: of Offstairs. So he's actually now running the education system,
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  Speaker 2: and we're now going to hear a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: what is actually going on in the education system at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, what's happening with British children.
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  Speaker 1: Ben, thank you very much. Well, Diane, let's bring you
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  Speaker 1: into the news and let's have a look at what
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  Speaker 1: sort of society the government has helped create. Is it
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  Speaker 1: taking us into a better place? I would say no,
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  Speaker 1: but what have you got for us?
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  Speaker 4: Well? Thanks Brandon, Hello Ben, and it's good to be
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  Speaker 4: here today. I want to say, first of all cover today,
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  Speaker 4: the first being about the Supreme Court ruling recently about
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  Speaker 4: saying that a woman is actually a biological woman. There
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  Speaker 4: have been protests taking a place all around the country
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  Speaker 4: since the ruling took place, especially in the last couple
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  Speaker 4: of weekends. For example, here's an article from a local
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  Speaker 4: paper up here in the north from Yorkshire. There was
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  Speaker 4: a protest in New York over the weekend that happened
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  Speaker 4: on Saturday. This particular piece of propaganda called it peaceful.
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  Speaker 4: I heard from someone who was directly there on the
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  Speaker 4: ground in York on Saturday, found it very frightening. It
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  Speaker 4: was very large and the people were very angry. So
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  Speaker 4: what I'd like to do is. I found some photos
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  Speaker 4: of some of the signs and the things that people
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  Speaker 4: hold at these protests. They show these large crowds. But
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  Speaker 4: here's one from Edinburgh that was in the place called
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  Speaker 4: the website called the Canary, that was from the nineteenth
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  Speaker 4: saying it was to rail against the ruling that was
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  Speaker 4: disgraceful and far right fueled. So that's the bias presented
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  Speaker 4: by the Canary. But what's actually going on when you
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  Speaker 4: get into the crowds and into what's actually going on.
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  Speaker 4: Let's take a look, for example, at this video. This
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  Speaker 4: is a video from Edge of the Matrix, who was
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  Speaker 4: with us in Cheltenham and interviewed me about the LGBTQ
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  Speaker 4: books that are going on in libraries around the world.
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  Speaker 4: And this was him having a very heated debate with
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  Speaker 4: someone at the Manchester protest recently.
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  Speaker 1: That your biological biologically male.
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  Speaker 2: You prove it?
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  Speaker 4: What you do? Want me to get my pants down?
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  Speaker 5: I prove it. Even if you had a penis, it
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't prove that you were biologically male. Come then, how
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  Speaker 5: do you know that you have x is X Y prox. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: well you can pause. You are absolutely wrong, Okay, you
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  Speaker 5: do not know what you're talking about. You do not
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  Speaker 5: live the life of the transgender male or female. You
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  Speaker 5: do not, So it's got nothing to do with you.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely nothing to do with you whatever, any but this
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  Speaker 5: person wants to do that person wants to do. It's
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  Speaker 5: got nothing to do with you.
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  Speaker 4: We should you say you.
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  Speaker 5: Want to live in a socially acceptable or free society.
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  Speaker 5: This is a socially acceptable free society where you, whatever
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  Speaker 5: your beliefs, keep them to yourself. They don't impinge on
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  Speaker 5: what everybody else has to has to say about it
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  Speaker 5: or and want to believe you, that sign is se
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  Speaker 5: offensive to, in my opinion, most people in this country.
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  Speaker 4: And of course the punchline, which we didn't get to
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  Speaker 4: see in the video, but you can watch the full
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  Speaker 4: video on YouTube. What happened was that he found out
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  Speaker 4: at the end was that the man who was standing
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  Speaker 4: to the side of the man he was speaking with.
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  Speaker 4: So the younger man was saying that that was a
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  Speaker 4: trans man. I think that it was right, but was
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  Speaker 4: actually I was saying a trans woman, but actually a
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  Speaker 4: real man. Anyways, lied all the way through the debate.
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  Speaker 4: When it turned out he was just actually a man.
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  Speaker 4: So that was interesting. So some of the photos that
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  Speaker 4: I mentioned that I wanted to show everyone here. Here's
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  Speaker 4: one that said the only good turf, which is trans
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  Speaker 4: exclusionary radical feminist, is a hug one with the drawing
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  Speaker 4: of a noose, so that's lovely. We have another one
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  Speaker 4: here says rot In Hell Rowling, so JK. Rowling, of course,
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  Speaker 4: the author of the Harry Potter books, who is very
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  Speaker 4: outspoken and her turfiness. And another saying transphobes should have
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  Speaker 4: a diy lobotomy. Here's another one saying fix your hearts
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  Speaker 4: or die. And another signs next to them that's saying
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  Speaker 4: unions defend trans rights. Dump leaders who elected Starmer and Streeting.
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  Speaker 4: They must not know that Starmer said in twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 4: of course, that ninety nine point nine percent of women
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  Speaker 4: haven't gotten penis, or that David Lammy said that trans
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  Speaker 4: women can grow cervice. Here's one saying you can pee
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  Speaker 4: next to me. This one was posted by Steph Richards.
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  Speaker 4: Steph Richards has a bit of a history. Steph is
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  Speaker 4: a biological man who has father children. This was at Southampton.
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  Speaker 4: Steph used to be the CEO of a charity called
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  Speaker 4: Endometriosi's South Coast, which, of course indimitriosis is a women's
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  Speaker 4: health condition only that only applies to women. And Steph
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  Speaker 4: was had stepped down within about six months of being
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  Speaker 4: appointed CEO because Steph was seen as a wording to
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  Speaker 4: some people, some transphobic people didn't like the fact that
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  Speaker 4: a biological man was in charge of a women's health charity.
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  Speaker 4: So imagine that. And also more on Peing, I would
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  Speaker 4: say trans demos, these activists demos. One of the things
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  Speaker 4: that happens is they are actually urinating in the streets
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  Speaker 4: in order to make a point about not being able
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  Speaker 4: to go to pea in women's toilets. A couple of
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  Speaker 4: other the news items it's well related to this agenda.
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  Speaker 4: Again more about Peeing. Unfortunately, earliston primary school in the
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  Speaker 4: Scottish Borders has been ordered by a judge to add
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  Speaker 4: single sex toilets to its new primary school building. Some
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  Speaker 4: of the parents were concerned that the newly built schools
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  Speaker 4: only had gender neutral lows put in them, so they
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  Speaker 4: took them to court. And I just want to say
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  Speaker 4: this is one example of what we can all be
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  Speaker 4: doing to take action against what they're trying to do
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  Speaker 4: to the children in our country. Back over the US,
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  Speaker 4: there's a group of Muslim, Catholic, and Ukrainian Orthodox parents
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  Speaker 4: in Montgomery County, Maryland. They have taken their school board
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  Speaker 4: to the US Supreme Court for the right to opt
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  Speaker 4: out their primary school aged children from school curriculum containing
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  Speaker 4: books about transgender and transgender and homosexual agendas. The summary
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  Speaker 4: of the case, according to a CBS News article, and
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  Speaker 4: you can read the full filing as well, is that
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  Speaker 4: public schools are unconstitutionally burdening parents' First Amendment rights to
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  Speaker 4: exercise their religion freely when they require children to participate
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  Speaker 4: in instruction on gender and sexuality that violates the family's
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  Speaker 4: religious beliefs. There will be a decision made this summer,
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  Speaker 4: but it looks like so far the justices are siding
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  Speaker 4: with the parents, so that's some good news. One of
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  Speaker 4: the books that's under question in the case that has
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  Speaker 4: been brought to the Supreme Court is the book called
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  Speaker 4: Born Ready, The True Story of a Boy named Penelope
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  Speaker 4: by Jodie Patterson. And here I would like to bring
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  Speaker 4: in our guests today. She's Kathy Mudge. She is the
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  Speaker 4: head of Protecting Teach down in Devon and Chathy I've
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  Speaker 4: interviewed previously in a UK column exposing what's going on
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  Speaker 4: in the schools and the curriculum of the books, and
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to have Kathy read an excerpt from this book. So,
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  Speaker 4: welcome to the.
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  Speaker 6: Show, Kathy, thank you, thanks for inviting me. Right you
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  Speaker 6: sitting comfortably, Pleppie. Why so why are you so angry?
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  Speaker 6: Mama asks, because everyone thinks I'm a girl. However you
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  Speaker 6: feel is fine, baby. It's what's on the inside that
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  Speaker 6: matters most. If you feel like a boy, that's okay. No, Mama,
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  Speaker 6: I don't feel like a boy. I am a boy. Oh,
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  Speaker 6: Mama gets quiet. I love you, Mama, but I don't
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  Speaker 6: want to be you. I want to be Papa. I
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  Speaker 6: don't want tomorrow to come because tomorrow I'll look like you.
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  Speaker 6: Please help me, Mama, I want to be a boy.
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  Speaker 6: I hold Mama's hand and transfer some of my Ninja
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  Speaker 6: powers to help her understand. Then Mama says the best
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  Speaker 6: word I've ever heard. Yes, she says, we will make
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  Speaker 6: a plan to tell everyone we love what we know.
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  Speaker 6: What's that you are a boy for the first time.
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  Speaker 6: My instads don't feel like fire, they feel like warm,
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  Speaker 6: golden love.
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  Speaker 4: So thank you. What did you think of that when
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  Speaker 4: you first read that?
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  Speaker 6: Well, obviously we are looking at lots of books and
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  Speaker 6: we haven't covered them all because there's so many we're
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  Speaker 6: working our way through. So this is the first time
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  Speaker 6: I've seen this one, and the moment I read it,
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  Speaker 6: I thought this is aimed at the mother more than
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  Speaker 6: the child itself. It's actually it's actually grooming the mother.
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  Speaker 6: That got me was where it said I don't want
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  Speaker 6: tomorrow to come. Now that if you ask anybody, what
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  Speaker 6: do you mean you don't want tomorrow to come? You're
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  Speaker 6: thinking of suicide, don't you a suicidal ideation? So a
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  Speaker 6: whole of this premise is based on the fact if
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  Speaker 6: you don't help your child change.
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  Speaker 4: Sex, they will kill themselves. This is what this is.
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  Speaker 6: This is what they've been saying all the time when
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  Speaker 6: there is no proof of that child's suicide is extremely rare,
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  Speaker 6: and it actually shows the suicide rates are higher amongst
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  Speaker 6: children that have trans after they've gone through the process
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  Speaker 6: than before. But it means that mother will read that
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  Speaker 6: to their child and they'll think, oh, my gosh, you
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  Speaker 6: know my child's you know, my little tomboy girl is
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  Speaker 6: going to kill herself unless I trans them and make
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  Speaker 6: them a boy. It's just and it's the refew and
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  Speaker 6: it's the rejection. They've got a daughter, and instead of
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  Speaker 6: having a daughter who wants to dress like a boy
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  Speaker 6: and do boy things, they're just saying, no, you're not
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  Speaker 6: You're not a girl anymore. That's rejected. We're going to
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  Speaker 6: have a boy that you know, Yes, we're happy, we're
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  Speaker 6: going to have a boy. Now they're just rejecting the
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  Speaker 6: child sex. It's just shocking, isn't it.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of the is it certainly is. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 4: is one of many. And that's you know, one of
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  Speaker 4: the things that I would encourage viewers. We have not
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  Speaker 4: watched our interview previously where we called out a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the content that was in certain books, and that
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  Speaker 4: it just scratchens the surface of the amount of these
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  Speaker 4: books that are pretty much from what I see. I
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  Speaker 4: occasionally go into Waterstones or WHSmith locally and look around
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  Speaker 4: in the children's section and the young adult section, and
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  Speaker 4: it all has some element of rainbows of it's okay,
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  Speaker 4: if you don't even want to be a person, you
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  Speaker 4: can be a deer or a whoop. If you want to,
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  Speaker 4: you can be whatever you want to be. And it
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  Speaker 4: starts as we see very young with these picture books,
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  Speaker 4: and it just gets more and more advanced and complex
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  Speaker 4: and in depth as we go further into the age
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  Speaker 4: of the child. So by the time that you're in
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  Speaker 4: the young adult section, you're seeing queer romances, sexual relationships,
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  Speaker 4: things that you don't even even see that I would
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  Speaker 4: say when I was a child, even you know, a
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  Speaker 4: romance that for a teenager didn't have any sort of
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  Speaker 4: really explicit sexual content. Have had Oh, I like this boy,
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  Speaker 4: should I ask him out here? Are we going to
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  Speaker 4: have a date? But there was It wasn't anything that's
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  Speaker 4: explicit until you got into adult fiction. And I think
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  Speaker 4: something that's really important for us to highlight, as you
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  Speaker 4: will know as well, is that the age range doesn't
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  Speaker 4: actually indicate appropriateness of patent. If that's correct, right, It's
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  Speaker 4: only about the reading level. Is that how you understand
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  Speaker 4: it as well?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a big issue. Well, they're looking at the
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: words and a lot of these authors have dumbed down
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: their wording so that they'll make it acceptable for a
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: nine year old. We had an eleven year old girl
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: who came home from school the home with a book
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: about anal sex in graphic detail that was beyond my
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: comprehension and I'm the next nurse and that you know
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: the wording and everything, but it was all done in
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: very childish language, like poop was mentioned a lot. So
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: they basically that's that book has a rating for a
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: nine year old's plus because of the vocabulary, and it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: rated by publisher people that are writing these books get
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: them printed. If you wrote a child's book now without
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: including LGBTQ stuff, so like having a gay child or
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: a trans child, or a child questioning their gender, you
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: just wouldn't get it published. We know that from authors
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: that have contacted us having trouble getting things printed. The
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: publishers themselves get kudos for sending the school LGBTQ material.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: We often find it's packaged up, so they'll be sending
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: a school like history books, geography books, and they'll include
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: a hall load of LGBTQ books as well. It's a
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: massive number that you're dealing with in a school. You'll
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: maybe have thirteen different titles on a topic that I
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: think probably could be covered by one or two books.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: They'll do shelves of these books on particular days like
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: Pride Months and trans Gender Day of Remembrance that have
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: a display out, you know, rainbows everywhere, which attracts the
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: children in the books attractive as well. Today, for example,
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: I've had a few things in my inbox. One was
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: a book, a new book that's just out for toddlers
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: and it's all of the letters of the alphabet and
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: as for activist, and it's a picture of a baby
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: with its fist in a clenched fist position. That's a
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: book for today. And t of course is for trans
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: and trains. So that's that the new book that we've
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: had as well. And you're talking a lot of this
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: stuff also comes from groups, So we found LGBTQ groups
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: and schools pushing this agenda, which brings us back some
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: of the two groups you named earlier, which was the ESME,
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Fairbanks Foundations funding a lot of business schools and the
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: First Foundation. They're on our list of groups that pay
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: for this to happen.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks, Kathy. We'll come back to you a bit later
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: in the news. And I've just watching Brian's face is
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: just filing as he's listening to it. We've just covered.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you both very much for that well, my face
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: was also following comments in the UK column chat box,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: which is running live as this news is going out,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and people were shocked, absolutely shocked at the report and
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  Speaker 1: they're deeply concerned about these driven changes in society which
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: are clearly heavily focused on young people children because obviously
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: if children can be changed, then the state gains total
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: control of the future. We must stay on this subject
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: in future news programs, but yes, extremely concerning to the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: average person. Now I'm going to move on still to
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the subject of children, but this is issues around a
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: live court case, so we have to be very measured
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: in what we report today. But something came up at
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the end of last week that I thought was very
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: significant and really deserved to be flagged up to the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: UK column audience. So let's have a look at this.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: This report from the Evening Standard. Constance Martin tells old
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Bailey trial she went on the run after quote my
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: children were stolen by the state. And I'll just add
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit more of the text here. So the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: couple were convicted at the first trial of concealing the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: birth of a child and converting the course of justice.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: They're now on trial where they deny charges of manslaughter
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: and causing or allowing the death of a child. Now
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: this was a newborn baby. The whole case is very tragic,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but there were some things that took place in the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: court that we need to have a look at. Let's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: have a look at the video that went with the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Evening Standard report. And I'm going to say to the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: audience do go and look at that article because it
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: was extremely well written and very informative. But here's what
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: one of their editorial team had to say.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: This is the case of Constance Martin and Martin Gordon,
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: the aristocrat and her lover who went on the run
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: from police and are now accused of killing their baby.
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: Now my name is Tristan Kirk. I'm the court's correspondent
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: for the London Standard. Constance Martin and Mark Gordon went
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: missing in December twenty twenty two with their newborn baby
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: Victoria in tow, sparking a massive manhunt as they attempted
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: to evade the authorities and police. Baby Victoria was tragically
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: found dead around two months later, her body discarded in
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: a little bag for life left in a shed covered
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: in rubbish. Gordon and Martin are now on trial, accused
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: of manslaughter and are causing or allowing the death of
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: their baby girl. They deny the charges, saying that they
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: cared for her, gave her warmth, comfort, food and love,
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: and that they are not irresponsible for her death. That's
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: something that an Old Bailey jury has now been charged
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: with deciding are they guilty or not guilty. Martin and Gordon,
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: who had been a couple for a number of years,
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: checked into a holiday cottage in Northumberland on December twentieth,
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty two. At that stage, they were on nobody's radar,
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: a couple who were largely estranged from their own family
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: and had apparently checked in for a Christmas break. But
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: when they left, the property was in a mess and
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: there were signs that it was possible a baby had
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: been born. During the course of the police investigation, detectives
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: have pieced together sightings of Martin and Gordon on their
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: travels over the course of late December and early January,
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: as they're trying to explain what they did and why.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Obviously, that video is out in the public domain, so
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: we can show it to our audience quite happily. Note
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the hypnotic music, however, and I don't know why they
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: felt that was necessary on such a serious report. But
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: let's just go a little bit into what happened in court,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm using their own statements from the article. Let's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: have a look. So this is Constant Martin and she
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: said my family. She was talking about the family. My
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: family never accepted my relationship with Gordon, a male partner.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: They were the ones who instigated my children being taken away.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: She went on to say that she loved her children
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: extremely and not being with them is very, very hard,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and she followed on to say, I think it's an
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: absolute outrage. They are never they are never caused harm.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: They've always been loved and well catered for, so the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: decision was an outrage. What is she talking about. She's
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: talking about previous children, four of them being taken away
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: from her by the state. But this is where the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: report at the Standard is extremely interesting because Constant Martin
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: went on to say this when my children were stolen
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: by the state. And as she did this, the judge responded,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So this is Judge Lucraft KC, who's actually Recorder of London,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and he said to constance at words to give the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: indication I need to caution you against answering in the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: way that you have just done, as there are quote
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: consequences that may follow if you do so. Constance talks
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: about her children being stolen by the state, and this
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: is followed up by a caution from the judge with
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: these particular words. Now it is sensitive because the case
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: is running, so we can't say too much about it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: But Constance went on to say of a partner, I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: love him very much. I wouldn't have five children with him,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: live with him, be with him if I didn't. He
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: is very dear to me. And she also went on
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to say that she they went off grid after Victoria,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the latest baby was born, to quote stop her being
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: taken into care in the same way that the other
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: four children were taken away. Now, what's very interesting is
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that if you look at BBC report on this, the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: BBC gives Constance words but fails to mention that extraordinary
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: caution by the judge in response to talking about child
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: stealing by the state. And I'm going to end this
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: section with four key questions that I think arise from
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the court exchange, and that is that in mentioning child
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: stealing by the state, what was Constance Martin really trying
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: to say, well, we're not going to know because she
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't able to say it. What did the judge really
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: mean by his caution and quote consequences? And three would
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the man on the Clapham omnibus deduced that Constance was
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: deflected from giving her defense testimony in her own words?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And lastly, are the accused in general now to be
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: restricted from giving testimony on the subject of childs stealing
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: by the state? And I'll point out to our audience
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and wider audience that the UK Column has repeatedly warned
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: about child stealing taking place by the UK state, and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: it's something that's ongoing, so difficult to say more at
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the moment until the trial is over. But that exchange
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and the judge's words were reported in the mainstream press,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and I think there are some serious questions to be
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: asked about what was actually taking place there. I don't
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: fully understand it, and certainly UK Column will see if
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: we can get more information out of the Recorder of
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: London's organization about that court hearing in due course. Well,
• 29:03
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks Brian. It's really important to be looking at
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  Speaker 6: Right, thank you, Diane. Yes, we're holding our third conference now.
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  Speaker 6: to come and talk about biological sets and the transhumanist agender,
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  Speaker 1: Excellent Diane and Cathy, thank you very much for that
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  Speaker 1: really interesting segment, and Kathy really great to see all
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  Speaker 1: I think this is one of the key reasons why
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: we're now seeing I think it's panic starting at the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: higher levels of control. But we still need to understand
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: who these people are, what their policies are, and Ben,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I think you can take us into more of how
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: this cabal is doing their pretty evil business.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, well, their policy is total control of everything.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: That's really what they're aiming for, and that is slavery ultimately,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: you know, And if you don't feel like a slave
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: right now, then you will do soon enough. We've shown
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: this chart a few times before shows the concentration of
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: wealth into the hands of the one percent. It's doubled
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty two to twenty fourteen. Based on these
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: statistics and that trajectory, it's probably up at about eighty
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: five percent now, and we know that that by twenty
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: thirty they want to get it to one hundred percent
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: of ownership. By the one percent, we will own nothing
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: and be happy. That is essentially a slave system, and
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: it's enabled by an overseer class. They talk about the
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: overseers today, one who oversees or superintends workmen, especially slaves.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: One who has charge under the owner or manager of
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: the work on a plantation. So for today's purposes, Europe
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: is the plantation. We are the slaves. The owners of
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the global investment funds and the billionaire class. And this
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: man is an overseer. This is Tunday Olin Rewardu, who
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: is a British man of Nigerian extraction. He's a trustee
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: ox faan one of these improbable career trajectories that we
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: talk about. Brian is a member of the Imperial College
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: slap Bang in Bill Gates Territory. He's on the board
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: of Innovate UK, which is one of the primary mechanisms
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: for driving the transformation agenda out of central government in
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: the public private marketplace to completely change our society. He's
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: also a member of the UK Government Industrial Strategy Advisory Council.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Very influential, powerful guy. And most importantly he's a senior
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: partner at McKinsey and Company, the global strategy and consulting
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: firm that is a strategic partner of the World Economic Forum.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: He's been there for twenty three years. Man and boy.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: He was at one point the global Chief Technology Officer,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: so a very important role in the firm in an
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: increasingly technology enabled system that we're in. Interestingly, he was
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: a managing partner of UK and Ireland and Israel. So interestingly,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: as part of the government's twenty thirty integration agenda, there's
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: a kind of a counterpart happening out in the marketplace
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: with organizations like McKinsey in particular basically merging their Israel
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and UK Operations, which I think is quite an astonishing thing.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: And he was in that position from twenty twenty two
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: to twenty five and he's just been bumped up into
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the top job in Europe interestingly, so he's done a
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: great job there, apparently, earning lots of money for the firm.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: And he's now the managing partner for Europe for McKinsey,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: and he put out this little statement. There's just an
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: excerpt here. I'll put a link to it. You can
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: go and read the whole thing. It wouldn't be an
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: exaggeration to say I step into this role at a
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: dynamic time for Europe and our clients. Powerful forces are
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: redefining industries and shifting the foundations of national competitiveness. There
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: is an increasingly urgent need to boost productivity, strengthen Europe's competitiveness,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: build new European champions, and ensure the region continues to
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: lead on the global stage. As his big message and
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: actually very helpfully outlined five key recommendation is what he
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: calls imperatives for corporate leaders. And I think the language
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: here deserves some scrutiny, and imperative is a command, So
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: he's essentially dictating to corporate leaders, and that means the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: people running multinational corporations. So this is footsy three point
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: fifty global brands. McKinsey work at board level with about
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: ninety percent of listed firms, right, So this message is
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: going right to the top, to the boardrooms in the
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: corporations who are essentially enabling this huge economic transition that
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: we're going through. And that guy, mister Tunday, is setting
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the pace. He's calling the shots, he's telling them what
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: to do. So what are the things that he's been
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: he's recommending. So the first one is this shaping a
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: concentrated base of long term and aligned investors. That means
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: reducing ownership down to as small a number of institutional
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: firms as possible who will ultimately think and want the
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: same thing. So this is about establishing relationships with the
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: black rocks and the vanguards and the state streets and
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: the institutional funds that are driving the agenda, because that
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: makes it easier for you to implement it. You don't
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: have any pesky retail shareholders raising inconvenient questions at the AGM.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: You just get to wave stuff through. What else is
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: he saying we need to align ambition with management and
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: board incentives. So that's basically using pay and stock to
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: incentivize your leaders to do what you want them to do.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: So that's management and board, not the workers importantly. So
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: this is about getting the rest of the overseer class
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: in the plantation aligned with what the owner class and
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: the other management people want them to do. Exploring tech
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: led business models, new geographies, new products, so this is
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: about automation ultimately reducing headcount the number of people that
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: you employ. It's also about embedding globalizations. If you're moving
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: into new geographies. This is about international cross border trade.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: They love that because it necessitates a whole bunch of
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: other things, international supply chains, cross border payments, all that
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And also it's about increasing the number
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: of people that you compete with. So if you're delivering
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: new products and services, it means that you're competing with
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: other firms. That means that there's less opportunity for new
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: entrants to come to the marketplace. Essentially, this is the
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: consolidation of the corporate profit platform. That's what's going on here.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Partnering with innovators to make bold investments in technology. So
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: this is about working in partnership with big tech Nvidia, Microsoft,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: you know the names, and all of that will be
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: facilitated by McKinsey, who will earn a lot of money
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: from cutting those deals and then finally purposefully reskilling the workforce. Right,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: So this is about driving the people, the slave class essentially,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the workers you don't own a thing, to become ever
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: more tightly embedded with and subservient to technology, in particular AI. Right,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: And the AI is basically, if we're going to continue
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: with our overseer analogy, that is the whip in the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: hand of the overseer, that's the AI, right, that's essentially
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: what that's doing. Yeah, pretty crazy actually, you know, to
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: see the how much they sort of distill it down
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: to just five key points, but there's so much in there.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: And one of the things that I immediately did when I
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: saw this was go, is there a way that shareholders
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: can push back on this stuff? And actually, really interestingly,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: if you go and look at the way that shareholdings
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: in listed companies in the UK have transformed since the sixties.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Again those statistics I showed earlier on from the early sixties,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: where the concentration of welcome to the hands of the
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: one percent. You can actually track that really neatly and
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: show that the amount of shares owned by individuals in
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: these big listed companies has gone down from over fifty
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: percent to just over ten percent over a period of
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: about sixty years, right, And that essentially means that all
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: of the power in the markets has been taken away
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: away from individuals and small shareholders and actually is now
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: in the hands of institutional investors, but importantly non UK
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: and non European based institutional investors. So actually the economic
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: system is completely out of our hands and there's no
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: recourse within the existing system. So essentially what we need
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: to do, and I talk about this a lot, is
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: so far as possible, and this is not always that
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: easy to achieve. We need to take our business, vote
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: with our wallets, get away from listed companies completely, get
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: away from the foot Sea. Go and have a look
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: at who's listed in the foot Sea. You know the names,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: they're on the high street, they're on your TV screen.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Stop buying from them, because what they're doing is implementing
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: this totalitarian agenda that your man today there is dictating
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: terms around all.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Right, and Ben is absolutely stripping the wealth out of
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the u okay as a nation state. And what a
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: simple graph.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: That is, Yeah, stripping wealth, stripping into a property, the
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: all agency and sovereignty in the market and a similar
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: things happening in the political system as well. Right, And
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: as I say, he's not just the market, it's also government.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: And actually, if I just go back to that the
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: full post that we can see here this is what
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: he shared. You can see that he gets a little
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: shout out from that guy outstanding you will rock as usual,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: go Tonday. That's from Paul Wilmott. Who's he Well, he's
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: another senior McKinsey guy. So he was managing partner from
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: McKinsey Digital ninety six to twenty nineteen. So actually at
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: some point he probably would have been Tonday's maybe his boss,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: certainly a close colleague. He was also chief Digital and
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Information Officer at Lego. Interestingly, Lego did some fascinating stuff
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: actually when he really dig into what Lego has done
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: and is doing in terms of kids development, the whole
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: there's a whole show we could do there. But also,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: of course he's slap bang in the middle of the
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: UK Government. So he was the chair of the UK
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Government Digital and Data Office. So you've got Tonday in
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: the market, this guy in government, their colleagues, they've worked
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: together for years and as I spoke about a couple
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: of months ago, I think it was UK government Digital
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Data Office has been completely transformed by former McKinsey people,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: and he's now completely owned and operated by Amazon essentially. Right,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: So these people have just gone in and taken all
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: of our national assets and he's still in there. That
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: role ended back in January, but Eastern a non executive
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: decent overseeing the transformation agenda. Right, And this is what's
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: happening in the country, is what's happening in the markets.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to over egg this too much,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: but I do think that it's worth dwelling on the
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: point that we now have a Nigerian guy essentially dictating
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: economic policy across the whole of Europe. And I do
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: wonder how appropriate that is, you know, should we be
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: celebrating this, should we be pursuing this as a course
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: of action. And to his credit, I think I haven't
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: actually seen miss toton Day talking too much about these
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: kind of divisive racial issues. But actually his predecessor at
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: McKinsey has done a lot, and that's this lady, Dame
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Vivian Hunt DBE. So she was a senior partner at
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: McKinsey and Company. She was the life Sciences lead for
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: six years, so helping the global pharmaceutical companies make a
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: lot more money. She was then Managing Partner of UK
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: and Ireland and having left there, went to become the
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Chief Innovation Officer at the United Health Group. So this
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: is one of the biggest healthcare companies on Earth. I
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: think it's the fourth richest company in the US. Extraordinarily
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: powerful and wealthy. She's also in the Trilateral Commission. She
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: loves playing these racial games. So Palace Foundation most influential
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Black women in Britain. As he was also a founding
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: trustee of the Black Equity Organization. I've spoken about a
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: lot previously which is essentially been set up to deal
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: with issues of what they call systemic racism. But actually
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: we can see just for the existence of Dame Vivian
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Hunt dB her own position in society and also today
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: who I was speaking about earlier, his position within McKinsey,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: the extraordinary privilege and wealth and power that these people
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: have that actually there aren't really any issues of systemic
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: racism in our society at all. And actually these people
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: are just feathering their own nest. They're wolves in sheep's clothing.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Apparently they're comeing to make things fairer, but actually they
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: are quite literally overseers in a slave system, right. And
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: actually Dame Vivian Hunt was made an overseer of Harvard
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: University last year. That's what Harvard calls the people who
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: run its university, which I think is an extraordinarily striking
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: way of describing what they're about and what they do.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: And certainly we sho be watching them every moment of
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: every day. A few people in the chat box are saying, yes,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: but the sort of language is rubbish. Well, it may
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: be rubbish, but we need to understand what they are saying,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: because if we know their language, we can understand what
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: they're planning, and therefore we can disrupt and stop it.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: So language is very important, but certainly don't just dismit
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: it miss what they're saying is nonsense, because they are
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: changing our world using their language. Diane, let's bring you
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: back and a key subject which many many people have
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: got huge concerns about, and that's geoengineering. But of course
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: some of it we can see, some of it is
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: visible and some of it is almost hidden in plain sight.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: And to really start to take some of this apart,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: we need to be very sure what's factual and what's not.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: But what have you got for us?
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, thanks Brian, And just to reiterate one more time,
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: I do love carbon dioxide. It's been all over the
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: mainstream news in the last few days and non social
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: media as a result that we should just be looking up.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: They're doing this, they're doing this. So here's one example
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: from the Guardian seeing UK scientists to launch outdoor geo
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: engineering experiments blocking the sunlight could temporarily slow the climate crisis,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: but the technologies remain highly controversial. So similar stories all
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: over the place last few days. This is referring to
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: a fifty six million pounds set of projects funded by ARIA,
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: the Advanced Research and Invention Agency. I won't go into
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: ARIA in detail because we've been covering ARIA on UK
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: columns since twenty twenty one and basically it's a UK
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: it's under the UK Department for Science, Innovation and Technology.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: It's very secretive. You are not allowed to send freedom
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: freedom information requests to ARIA because they will not respond
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: to them. Last week I sent out a post on
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: x that mentioned the report that I did on geoengineering
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: two weeks ago. And even though my my post got
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: almost no views two weeks ago when I did it,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: it now has over eleven thousand views, just to show
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: you how popular this topic is becoming. So this project
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: through ARIA is basically is sort of the brainchild of
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: Professor Mark Signs from the University of Glasgow and his
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: quote about the project, which is on the ARIA website
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: is that decarbonization is vital, but our current progress puts
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: us at risk of triggering a large number of temperature
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: induced climate tipping points. The program will explore critical unanswered
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: questions as to how or whether we might cool the
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Earth safely and responsibly on the time scales required to
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: avoid climate catastrophe. So the background to marked Professor Signs
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: is that he was in the first cohort of program
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: directors as they're called it ARIA, which started in October
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three, and he's now finished his time
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: in that role. There's now eight new program directors. What
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: the program directors do is they create what are called
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: opportunity spaces, which they say are important but under explored
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: areas of research that we believe are right for breakthroughs.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: They each service a bedrock for multi year programs directed
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: by our program directors, and so this was his idea
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: as the program director. His opportunity space was called future
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: Proofing our Climates and Weather and Charles Mallett first mentioned
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: that back on UK column News on the twenty second
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: of May twenty twenty four. The website has a page
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: explaining the program under the opportunity space, which is called
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: Exploring Climate Cooling. And what this slide that I've got
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: up here now is from a video that he used
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: to explain to people who wanted to apply for the
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: funding what they would be funding. So possible research areas include,
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: for example, stratspheric aerosol injection. We read called brightening, cloud thinning,
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: cloud cover control, space based reflectors, ice thickening, manipulation and
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: other whatever that is. So that's the fifty six million
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: pound project in a very coqui summary. But what I
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: want to go further into is not just looking up,
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: but also we need to be looking down into the water.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: And I want to talk about what is not being covered,
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: which is what they're doing to our seas. One project
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: that's been circulating recently I've seen a bit on mainstream
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: news here's from the BBC, is about sucking carbon out
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: of the sea. This project is called Secure Seawater Carbon
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Unlocking and Renewal. This is funded by the Department for
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: Energy Security and Net Zero. It will not be funded
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: through the sale of carbon or carbon removal credits. Apparently
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: the partners at Brunell University London a company that works
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: with water companies throughout the UK and Ireland and what
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: do we know about water around the country called Illiquo
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: hydroc University of Exeter and Plymouth Marine Laboratory Professor Tom
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Bell is of Plombrine Laboratory right down the street by
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: near you. Ryan ben He said that Secure is a
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: project investigating an ocean carbon dioxide removal technique that involved
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: using the natural processes of the ocean like a sponge,
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: ringing out the sponge to remove the carbon to be
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: stored geologically, and then releasing that low carbon water back
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: into the ocean where it sits and absorbs the carbon
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: dioxide from the atmosphere and thus releasing carbon dioxide levels
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: in the atmosphere. Now, I want to go into seaweed
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: because seaweed apparently is becoming a very important material. Back
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen, this Plymouth Marine Laboratory published an article
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: called Seaweed Potential in the Southwest, which said seaweed is
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: an underutilized and undercultivated commodity but offers huge potential variety
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: of products. And let's hear what Prince William had to
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: say about seaweed back in December. The title of the
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: full video, which we won't see the whole thing of,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: is Prince William and Hannah Waddingdam play darts. This was
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: from December twenty twenty four.
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: The most important question, sir, that I need to ask
• 56:58
  Speaker 8: you is what on earth is your.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Obsession with seaweed all about?
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Why have you got a fixation on sewed true?
• 57:04
  Speaker 9: Sure, I've suddenly realized how important seaweed is. It sequest
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: is carbon as well as a sequesta, It draws down carbon.
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: It cleans the oceans, so it has a natural cleansing process.
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: It takes pollutants and toxics out of the water, and
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: you can make things from it. And in twenty twenty two,
• 57:17
  Speaker 9: one of our Finestsknopla, which sounds very plastic I remember
• 57:20
  Speaker 9: not plan and they created effectively plastic everything but through seaweed.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: So Prits William, my future king, is very excited about seaweed.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Another project that is going on related to seaweed is
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: just also from Plymouthree Laboratory has just been become fully operational.
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  Speaker 4: Young seaweed has been planted in near a wind farm
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  Speaker 4: in the Netherlands. So let's hear from the professor who
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  Speaker 4: was in charge of this particular project. Her name is
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  Speaker 4: Anya Kiros So.
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  Speaker 10: This is a particularly exciting product. So what we're doing
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  Speaker 10: is we're looking at a potentially a large scale activity
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  Speaker 10: of seaweed farming offshore, and what we're trying to do
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  Speaker 10: is try to understand the potential to grow that seaweed
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  Speaker 10: offshore using wind farms as infrastructure supporting them, and trying
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  Speaker 10: to understand what is the capacity of that business and
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  Speaker 10: what are the carbon fluxes associated with it and the
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  Speaker 10: potential biodiversity value. Seaweed in particular have received a lot
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  Speaker 10: of attention in the last decade because they have very
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  Speaker 10: high rates of CO two absorption, so they are one
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  Speaker 10: of the main thinks of CO two in the ocean
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  Speaker 10: in terms of rates program of biomass. However, the challenge
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  Speaker 10: with seaweed is that the seaweed in themselves don't sequest
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  Speaker 10: the carbon, so they don't hold the carbon for a
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  Speaker 10: very long period, and so the challenge here is to
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  Speaker 10: try and understand what happens to seweed carbon in the
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  Speaker 10: low term. P BEL are the lead scientific institution in
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  Speaker 10: the project, and what we bring is the expertise that
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  Speaker 10: we've been developing in recent years in the ability to
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  Speaker 10: follow carbon and seweed detritus from farms and natural seweed
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  Speaker 10: habitats to the seafloor where it might be see questioned.
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  Speaker 10: The main interest for PML is really to understand whether
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  Speaker 10: we can support the growth of the industry in a
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  Speaker 10: way that is sustainable, so we're talking about managing the
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  Speaker 10: marine environment and adding potentially quite large scale activities. Our
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  Speaker 10: interest is in understanding the carbon value of these farmed habitats,
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  Speaker 10: their impacts on the global carbon cycle, and also their
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  Speaker 10: impacts on local biodiversity. There is the suggestion that these
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  Speaker 10: sewed farmers could have positive effects on local biodiversity, so
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  Speaker 10: we will be measuring that and in future, what we
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  Speaker 10: hope is to be able to inform policy that might
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  Speaker 10: allow us to grow the sector in a way that
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  Speaker 10: is good for business but also good for the ocean.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't really know what all of that meant.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure she did either. So I got in
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  Speaker 4: touch with Alex Thompson because he lives in the Netherlands,
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  Speaker 4: of course, and I wanted to know what he knew
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  Speaker 4: about this wind farm and the seaweed farm, if anything,
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  Speaker 4: And so he sent me a voice message and replies,
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  Speaker 4: so let's listen to what he said, please.
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  Speaker 11: I had heard vaguely that there was talk of massive
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  Speaker 11: offshore wind farms in that sector. Not sure how Amazon
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  Speaker 11: got so dominant. I do know that the Belgian sector
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  Speaker 11: of the shallow North Sea coast, so just south of
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  Speaker 11: where these are going up in the southern Dutch sector.
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  Speaker 11: The Belgian sector in some parts is a chemical soup
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  Speaker 11: and increasingly toxic because a lot of First World War
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  Speaker 11: munitions were dumped on the continental shelf there and after
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  Speaker 11: one hundred plus years, the cases are starting to rot
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  Speaker 11: and all kinds of goop is leaking out in a
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  Speaker 11: massively busy shipping lane. And it's not that much less
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  Speaker 11: severe in this Southern Netherlands stretch. There's quite a lot
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  Speaker 11: of shipping going past and it's extremely shallow.
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  Speaker 4: So really that good news about the chemical information there
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  Speaker 4: that he shared. The reason he mentioned Amazon I should
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  Speaker 4: have said before is that Amazon is actually funding this
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  Speaker 4: project with the seaweed farm for whatever reason. They have
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  Speaker 4: a climate change fund that they decide what they're going
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  Speaker 4: to fund on that. So moving on from there, I
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  Speaker 4: just again want to encourage people to look at official
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  Speaker 4: good sources and not get panicked, not get emotional. The
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  Speaker 4: net Office does have a position on geoengineering research on
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  Speaker 4: their web page. They do say that their contribution will
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  Speaker 4: be based on that was my emphasis, simulations using climate models.
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  Speaker 4: We did not advocate or provide context for real world
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  Speaker 4: physical experiments. So maybe just have some questions there about
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  Speaker 4: what their contribution is. Not they say what it is
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  Speaker 4: based on, but what is the contribution. Just this morning
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  Speaker 4: I was watching Wake Up as Sonya Poulton and she
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  Speaker 4: had a guest on who mentioned this particular report, Dan Stevens.
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  Speaker 4: This is from the House of Commons, the Regulation of
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  Speaker 4: view Engineering. This was printed in March twenty ten. I
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  Speaker 4: haven't read about it, but I just heard about it.
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  Speaker 4: But I would take a look at that as well.
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  Speaker 4: It's one hundred and sixteen pages long, so that will
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  Speaker 4: give you something to look at for sure, And there
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: is a petition that has been circulating. It took a
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  Speaker 4: while to take some traction, but I think because of
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  Speaker 4: all the mainstream coverage it's really gone out there. Last
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  Speaker 4: time I looked this morning, it had around eighty five
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  Speaker 4: thousand signatures, and so we want to at least get
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  Speaker 4: it to one hundred thousand. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 4: will they do anything, Probably not, because this all ties
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  Speaker 4: in with them, meaning the goals of the Paris Agreement.
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  Speaker 4: So whether or not it will make a difference, we
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  Speaker 4: don't know, but we have to try. And just finally,
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to end on this meme I saw over
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  Speaker 4: the weekend. You see all of them laughing at us.
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  Speaker 4: First we'll force them to rely on solar farms for electricity,
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  Speaker 4: then we'll block out the sun.
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  Speaker 8: Great, we have to laugh to add, but overall it
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  Speaker 8: is unbelievably serious to see what these people think they
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  Speaker 8: can do, which is controlled the world control space.
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  Speaker 1: Even we have to stay on top of it. We
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  Speaker 1: have to keep reporting what the real facts and information
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  Speaker 1: around this is. And of course people have to become
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  Speaker 1: active so once again I'm going to say Kathy was
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  Speaker 1: with us today, one of those people who's out and
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  Speaker 1: about doing things. If you're trying to counter what's happening
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  Speaker 1: and you've got a specialist area, by all means, stay
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  Speaker 1: in that, do your best, encourage other people to join you,
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  Speaker 1: but don't point a finger at people who've got other priorities.
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  Speaker 1: This is a battle that needs to be shared and
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  Speaker 1: if we work together as one big team in nation
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  Speaker 1: states and across the world, we can do something to
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  Speaker 1: stop this appalling agenda. Let's ends there. Thank you all
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  Speaker 1: very much for joining me today. We will have an
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  Speaker 1: extra in a few minutes for UK column members. We
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  Speaker 1: will see you then. Otherwise UK column be back at
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  Speaker 1: the same time on Wednesday. Bye bye.
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