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HR2: Live from Training Camp 2026 Day 15 · In the Locker Room presented by Neighborhood Ford Store (Pittsburgh Steelers)

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Speaker 2: It and welcome back inside the locker room from Latrobe.
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Speaker 2: As the training camp has ended. The rain is now come.
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Speaker 2: Hang on a second, Sun just came out again.
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Speaker 3: Sun pop back. I mean, greatness kind of went. I
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Speaker 3: don't know if that's coming towards us or away from us.
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Speaker 3: I can't tell.
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Speaker 2: So Max, we were, uh, we were talking about training
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Speaker 2: camp and kind of getting to that position where you're
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Speaker 2: going to where you're going to, you know, sort of
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Speaker 2: get ready for an opponent, and we're going to talk
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Speaker 2: a little bit about what Mike McCarthy's looking for and
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Speaker 2: a little bit about the players you're looking to step forward.
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Speaker 2: I did want to take a moment to talk about
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Speaker 2: the Jets only because I think it's it's like an.
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Speaker 4: Opponent a little bit, a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Like an apartment, because you're game planning to try to
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Speaker 2: get ready for him. As I look at this Jets team,
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Speaker 2: it looks to me and I am you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: not in the meeting rooms with the Jets that kind
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Speaker 2: of thing. Remember, they were supposed to have this good
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Speaker 2: defense and Aaron Glenn comes in and the defense had
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Speaker 2: kind of fallen apart the year before. Last year they
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Speaker 2: played the entire season. Yes, Max new exactly where I
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Speaker 2: was going. He just put together He wrapped his forefinger
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Speaker 2: around his thumb, putting up the universal sign for zero. Yes,
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Speaker 2: you know what, as you're noticingerotions zero interceptions zero They
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Speaker 2: didn't have a one interception under That is unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: For a guy who is not only a defensive coach,
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Speaker 3: but a defensive backs coach who had interceptions and understand
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Speaker 3: the boards of interceptions. For whatever reasons, commatically, they could
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Speaker 3: not get in a position to take the football away
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Speaker 3: in that respect.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I think, and again I don't know
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Speaker 2: this for a fact, but I'm guessing that Aaron Glenn
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Speaker 2: came in and you know, look, I hope for his
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Speaker 2: sake he's got good, solid job security. Right, That's that's
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Speaker 2: what I'm hoping, because this is what it looked like
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Speaker 2: to me, like a coach comes in and says, Okay,
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Speaker 2: we'll do it your way. You got your players, let
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Speaker 2: me see what I can get out of them. And
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Speaker 2: then this year was like, Nope, I'm not running it
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Speaker 2: back with this group. So remember this was supposed to
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Speaker 2: be a Jets team that was built on defense. They
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Speaker 2: traded Sauce Gardner last year and.
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Speaker 3: Williams Quinn Williams, so the guy who would have probably
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Speaker 3: gotten you that said one interception was right away, so
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Speaker 3: for you not to get one, and then you look
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Speaker 3: at their defense and you know, will McDonald was the
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Speaker 3: guy they just drafted a couple of years ago as
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Speaker 3: a first round pick.
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Speaker 2: He is listed on their depth chart as a second
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Speaker 2: team guy. So they have along the defensive line David
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Speaker 2: Onyamana new guy to and Andre Sweat new guy. Trade
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Speaker 2: David Bailey first round pick new guy to Mario Davis.
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Speaker 2: Old new guy used to be there, he's back. Joseph
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Speaker 2: Asai remember him with the Bengals. New guy, nay Sean Wright.
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Speaker 2: There's your interceptions there. I think he had one against
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Speaker 2: the Steelers if not mistaken the pass up the left sideline.
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Speaker 4: Minka Fitzpatrick, new guy, di'angelo.
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Speaker 2: Pond's new guy might be might be Jarvis Brownlee at
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Speaker 2: that starting position. And then some of the other guys
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Speaker 2: are old new guys like Harrison Phillips, Brendan Stevens from Baltimore.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Harrison from Minnesota. Okay, so or Buffalo. He was
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Speaker 3: at both of them.
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Speaker 4: Where was he last year? I thought he was with Minnesota.
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Speaker 3: He was at Minnesota last year, Yes, right, because he
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Speaker 3: was what Buffalo to start his career, went to Minnesota.
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Speaker 3: Now he's there. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So eight nine ten new guys on defense, and we
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Speaker 2: have seen the Steelers try to get some new guys
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Speaker 2: on defense. And by the way, for the for the
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Speaker 2: people who are thinking, you know, we really ought to
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Speaker 2: rip this team down and you know, tear it down
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Speaker 2: to the studs.
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Speaker 4: Down to the studs, that's what this looks like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get a veteran like Gino Smith at quarterback,
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Speaker 2: and you get eight or nine new starters on defense,
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Speaker 2: and you have three or four new starters on offense,
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Speaker 2: and no idea where it's going to go, and no
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Speaker 2: idea if you're going to be able to draft the
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Speaker 2: right pieces and get the right pieces in place. But
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Speaker 2: I do you think, my guess when you when you
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Speaker 2: look at these kind of players, like a Demario Davis
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Speaker 2: for example, that that's the kind of veteran guy that
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Speaker 2: you want to bring in and set the attitude that
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Speaker 2: you want. I don't see any possible way you can
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Speaker 2: bring in eight free agents and have a top tier defense,
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Speaker 2: right Like, I can't imagine they can look at this
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Speaker 2: team and they've got talent. It definitely has talent. Guy,
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Speaker 2: there's talent on the team. But I can't imagine they
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Speaker 2: can look at this team and be like, we're good.
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Speaker 2: We made all these changes, now we're fine. I'm guessing
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Speaker 2: that yes, they expect to make an improvement, but they're
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Speaker 2: also trying to set a tone, set an attitude for
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Speaker 2: an Aaron glenn Era that just wasn't part of their
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Speaker 2: team last year. That's not the kind of defense he
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Speaker 2: wants and so I think he wants to again do
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Speaker 2: I know this? Am I sitting in their meeting rooms? No,
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Speaker 2: as an observer, I'm looking at these players and these
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Speaker 2: names and these type of guys. Mika Fitzpatrick who we
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Speaker 2: know about you know, to Andre Sweat. They want hard working,
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Speaker 2: ernest give you everything you have, no bs kind.
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Speaker 3: Of players physical to physical, that's physical. There's a there's
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Speaker 3: a certain trend with all those guys that they're trying
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Speaker 3: to get physical up front. And you know Aaron Glenn
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Speaker 3: that had offload two of what the consider they're premier
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Speaker 3: players on that team because they knew it was they
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Speaker 3: were not gonna be able to utilize the value right
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Speaker 3: of those guys right now. So that's why you got
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Speaker 3: to let those guys go get some compensation.
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Speaker 4: This is no, this is no slight on Sauce Gardner
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Speaker 4: and Quinn Williams.
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Speaker 3: No, they're fantastic for the guys you want when you
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Speaker 3: get good.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you can't keep them now because you're not gonna
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Speaker 2: get good unless you trade them and get a whole
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Speaker 2: bunch of new guys in.
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Speaker 3: Here, and then you have to pay a whole lot
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Speaker 3: of money the next time around, right because by the
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Speaker 3: time they're good, those guys will be up on their contract, right,
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Speaker 3: so it's like, not let him go and let's just
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Speaker 3: build this up from the beginning. Like you said, eight
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Speaker 3: nine guys you're bringing in that fit the mold, that
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Speaker 3: don't necessarily break the bank right now, so you can
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Speaker 3: get your system and your culture established.
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Speaker 2: Culture that's the word. Yeah, I didn't use that word.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly I get the sense they're doing a culture
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Speaker 2: reset here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. I completely agree with you, and you've
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Speaker 3: got to start at the foundation, and no better way
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Speaker 3: than to bring in guys that don't cost as much,
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Speaker 3: but you know what you're getting as far as their
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Speaker 3: personality and what they bring to the table.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, again they're trying to build
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Speaker 2: that you know, that sort of mauling lineup front up
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Speaker 2: front of Fashana left tackle. We'll see, but Membuh is
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Speaker 2: a guy that is appears to be an ascending young
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Speaker 2: the Ulli white tackle. I'm sure they would have loved
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Speaker 2: to kept Elijah Vera Tucker, but you know, he's had
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Speaker 2: some health issues. I get the sense that, you know,
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Speaker 2: we went into last year's game against the Jets thinking,
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Speaker 2: you know this is gonna be uh to use Abby
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Speaker 2: Christian's band name, Fist Fighting the parking Lot. Yeah, but
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Speaker 2: one of the one of the great names for a band.
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Speaker 3: By the way, I I mean, there's nothing leaves zero
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Speaker 3: to the a on.
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Speaker 2: The DV morning show her group. So you know, look,
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Speaker 2: I think that I think that they're trying to and
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Speaker 2: it wasn't that. It wasn't that way at all. It
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Speaker 2: was a high scoring game.
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Speaker 3: High scoring.
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Speaker 2: Now a lot of that was because the Jets ran
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Speaker 2: the ball right down this year this stroas, So I think.
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Speaker 3: That all over the place.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're looking.
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Speaker 2: For a little okay, how do we stack up in
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Speaker 2: the trenches kind of game, I think that this is
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Speaker 2: a This is a good test for the Steelers front.
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Speaker 2: This both fronts, the offensive front and the defensive front.
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Speaker 4: Max.
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Speaker 2: I think this will be you know, you're going to
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Speaker 2: get effort, attitude, and some talent from this Jets team
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Speaker 2: up front.
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Speaker 3: To run or not to run? That is the question
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Speaker 3: and the answer huh to run? Yeah, Well the answer
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Speaker 3: can they run? Can they defend?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Both of those need to be answered, and both of
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Speaker 3: those are the questions.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, and appropriate for this conversation because William Shakespeare.
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Speaker 3: Bill, of course, was the first ever Billy Shakespeare.
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Speaker 4: First ever player drafted in Steelish history.
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Speaker 2: Bill Shakespeare didn't sign with the team, oh, the first
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Speaker 2: ever NFL draft.
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Speaker 4: Yet, Bill Shakespeare.
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Speaker 2: Didn't sign with He wouldn't have fit in here, you know,
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Speaker 2: so so you know, yeah, of course. Maybe the most
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Speaker 2: famous line in Shakespeare history is to be or not
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Speaker 2: to be? That's the question, right, Uh huh, Well, if
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Speaker 2: you're in Pittsburgh, it's not to be because they just
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Speaker 2: dropped the verb to you know, the car needs washed.
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Speaker 2: You know, the law needs mode and a lot of
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Speaker 2: other places. The car needs to be washed, the law
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Speaker 2: needs to be. So if William Shakespeare he brought up
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Speaker 2: that question Pittsburgh, yeah, well it's not to be of course,
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Speaker 2: were said, we don't need that's not a question.
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Speaker 4: We know the answer.
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Speaker 3: We don't the answer, and yeah, why do we need
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Speaker 3: to add the extra words?
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Speaker 2: A lot of shakes, Max, Max bringing the Shakespeare a
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Speaker 2: lot of Shakespeare ties here to pitch.
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Speaker 4: I do think that.
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Speaker 2: I think it's it's just gonna be a fun game
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Speaker 2: to see what happens up front.
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Speaker 3: Max, It's gonna be a fun game. I think in
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Speaker 3: general to see how this team responds from one week
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Speaker 3: to the next. Where's a growth, right, That's what I'm
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Speaker 3: looking for. I want to see can you be as good,
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Speaker 3: if not better the next time we take the field
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Speaker 3: at after sure? Can you get four plays better from
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Speaker 3: the previous game? Can you get eight more plays of
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Speaker 3: opportunity more this game because of what you did from
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Speaker 3: the first game and what were you going to do
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Speaker 3: with those things? Comes down to that run game. For
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Speaker 3: the offensive line, are you going to figure out how
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Speaker 3: to how to plug up the black side weakside a
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Speaker 3: gap block? Are you gonna not give up sacks right defensively?
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Speaker 3: Are you gonna keep getting knocked back and creating holes
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Speaker 3: up the middle? Or are you gonna attack the guy
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Speaker 3: downhill and push and create a new line of scrimmage.
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Speaker 3: That's what I want to see. Safeties, excellent job. Keep
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Speaker 3: doing what you're doing. You know they when they spill,
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Speaker 3: you fill when there's an alleyway opportunity. Don't turn down.
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Speaker 3: Where's the opportunity across the middle of the field. Make
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Speaker 3: a play on the ball. Corners, play inside out right,
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Speaker 3: don't get any holding penalties. Play your game tight ends,
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Speaker 3: catch the ball middle of the field, is now open
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Speaker 3: for business. So if you have a shot, you get open.
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Speaker 3: Be ready, young guys, next man up. It's not just
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Speaker 3: about DK Michael Pittman. We have other spots to fill.
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Speaker 3: Who is going to take not be given? Who's going
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Speaker 3: to take a spot? Jerrem g Bernard's trying to take
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Speaker 3: a spot. Max Earlerman's trying to take a spot. Kten
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Speaker 3: Wegen is trying to learn and take a spot because
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Speaker 3: he knows that he needs to be more valuable than
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Speaker 3: just a kick returner. So a lot of different storylines.
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Speaker 3: I'm just excited about what the growth looks like from
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Speaker 3: one game to the next.
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Speaker 2: And so yes, we're gonna and we're gonna get some
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Speaker 2: of the specific players in a moment. But let's hear
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Speaker 2: from Mike McCarthy from this morning, because he was asked
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Speaker 2: that question, what kind of steps?
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Speaker 4: This is a general broad UH, you know, sort of
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Speaker 4: a broad view of what he expects and hopes for
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Speaker 4: UH and his team going from preseason game number one
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Speaker 4: to preseason game number two.
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Speaker 5: Take a step, you know, clearly, you know there'll be
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Speaker 5: a message I did you know. I'll wait to all
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Speaker 5: the informations. In Wednesday's practice, this was supposed to be.
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Speaker 5: This was an important practice, This was a practice I
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Speaker 5: was looking forward to today. Uh, yesterday was our last
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Speaker 5: install practice, our mental evaluation MS and m AS was
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Speaker 5: the lowest of the training camp. So you know, we're
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Speaker 5: making progress. I felt really good coming off the field yesterday.
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Speaker 5: The intensities was where it needed to be. So you know,
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Speaker 5: I just want to you know, get that, you know,
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Speaker 5: get that that work on Wednesday in the can and
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Speaker 5: and then I'll make it clear with you know, with
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Speaker 5: the next step is that that we're looking to take
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Speaker 5: as a football team. So we talked about establishing the
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Speaker 5: play style, you know, the Steelerway, and you know it's
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Speaker 5: been in been in place here since the seventies, you know,
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Speaker 5: so I thought our guys you know, took that to
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Speaker 5: the field last week, and but now we need more
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Speaker 5: discipline with it. So I mean, that will definitely be
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Speaker 5: part of the message. You know, we had to you
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Speaker 5: know that many you know personal files, you can't win
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Speaker 5: you can't win to you know, you can't win a
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Speaker 5: game with that meant with that type of performance in
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Speaker 5: the area of penalties, so you know that, So that'll
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Speaker 5: be part of the message as we go into game Friday.
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Speaker 3: More.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he called the amount of penalties outrageous during yesterday
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Speaker 2: yesterday's press conference, that that's generally what they're going to
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Speaker 2: try to do. How about specific players and who needs
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Speaker 2: to step up for the Steelers. That's what we're going
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Speaker 2: to discuss next when we continue in the locker room
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Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network.
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Speaker 5: Any player would you know benefit from this type of atmosphere?
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Speaker 4: Last one? How Hi also mitigating.
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Speaker 5: You know, necessary coach it.
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Speaker 4: It's part of practice ethic. We have.
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Speaker 5: We have a video that's Joe Witz and my assistant
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Speaker 5: head coach does a tremendous job. You know, I've given
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Speaker 5: Joe some of the head coach responsibilities that I've done
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Speaker 5: in the past. He doesn't. He does an incredible job
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Speaker 5: with it.
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Speaker 2: And we thank you for being with us in the
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Speaker 2: locker room here on this Sather's Audio Network. And Max,
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Speaker 2: what I'm going to say here at the beginning, I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna start with what I considered the low hanging fruit
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Speaker 2: last week as we were getting ready for the game,
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Speaker 2: and so we kind of concluded with it and had
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Speaker 2: a good long talk about the young.
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Speaker 4: Quarterbacks out there.
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Speaker 2: However, I want to start with this because again I
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Speaker 2: don't know whether Aaron Rodgers is gonna play. I don't
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Speaker 2: know how much Macy Rudolph's gonna play if he plays.
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Speaker 2: It is clear that they want to get Will Howard
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Speaker 2: and Drew Aller a lot of work. I thought both
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Speaker 2: guys looked really good last week, and I'm starting to
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Speaker 2: think something that Mike McCarthy was asked about. He was asked,
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Speaker 2: can you keep four quarterbacks? Yeah, we keep four quarterbacks,
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Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people, a lot of
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Speaker 2: observers maybe rolled their eyes a little bit at that comment.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to keep four quarterbacks some teams,
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Speaker 2: for while, we're keeping only two.
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Speaker 4: With one in the practice squad.
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Speaker 2: And the more this goes on, Max, the more I think,
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Speaker 2: if these guys have another game on Friday night against
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Speaker 2: the Jets like they just had, I think this too,
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Speaker 2: those are going to keep four quarterbacks?
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Speaker 4: I really do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm right there with you because you
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Speaker 3: got apples apples comparisons, and both these guys came and
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Speaker 3: showed a resolve, showed an understanding and a mastery of
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Speaker 3: the offense to get things done. Now this week will
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Speaker 3: be different, right, because it's more of a game plan.
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Speaker 3: How do you respond to that? You know, you have
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Speaker 3: to think if you're a backup quarterback, young quarterback in
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Speaker 3: the system, you have to be able to operate Aaron
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Speaker 3: Rodgers centric offense. Right, this is geared around Aaron Rodgers
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Speaker 3: skill sets. So how well do you process and do
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Speaker 3: with that? And then can you go out there and perform?
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Speaker 3: And if you can, you know, we've seen two minute
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Speaker 3: drill execution, We've seen end of game decision making second
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Speaker 3: half play by Drew Aller. Now you wonder, okay, maybe
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Speaker 3: this week does Drew Allig get bumped up so he
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Speaker 3: gets a guaranteed two minute drill and a gotta have
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Speaker 3: a situation, and then we'll get some majority of those
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Speaker 3: reps in the second half against the Jets, just to
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Speaker 3: balance it out. I don't know, I don't know how
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Speaker 3: they're going to disseminate it. But you also want to see, Okay,
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Speaker 3: Drew did really well against that talent JV level talent, right, right,
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Speaker 3: how do you do with the varsity? Two way guys,
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Speaker 3: they get bumped up from JV to varsity all the time.
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Speaker 3: That's the next phase, because you're not going to get
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Speaker 3: the varsity reps because those are a reserve for Air
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Speaker 3: Rodgers and Mason Rudolph. Right, But in that third preseason game,
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Speaker 3: you might you might get some varsity reps because if
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Speaker 3: you say, I've seen enough for Mason and when we
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Speaker 3: know what Aaron is, all right, young guys, y'all, I'll
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Speaker 3: get one half one half each, go out there and
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Speaker 3: show me that you want to that you that you
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Speaker 3: want it.
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Speaker 2: It's an interesting dilemma, and again maybe it's helped by Actually,
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Speaker 2: I think it is helped by how good you think
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Speaker 2: your practice squad is going to be, because if you
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Speaker 2: keep four quarterbacks, you are going to be short somewhere
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Speaker 2: on your depth chart offense or defense. That's right, and
18:23
Speaker 2: so it's gonna have to be. And again, when Mike
18:25
Speaker 2: McCarthy talks about, hey man, I need a guy who
18:29
Speaker 2: can contribute, we talked about this.
18:32
Speaker 4: Do you keep a guy just for special teams?
18:36
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy seemed to say no a couple of mornings
18:39
Speaker 2: go during one of his press coverages.
18:41
Speaker 4: No, you don't.
18:41
Speaker 2: I want these guys to be able to contribute. It's
18:43
Speaker 2: something that you and I kicked around at the beginning
18:45
Speaker 2: of camp because we just don't know what is roster
18:47
Speaker 2: construction is going to look like. And you know, for example,
18:50
Speaker 2: Miles Killerbrew, right, Miles Killerbrew is kept for special teams.
18:54
Speaker 2: He was an All Pro special teamer and that's why
18:57
Speaker 2: he's done. Yeah, and so look, and again I'm not,
19:02
Speaker 2: you know, breaking any new ground here, I'm just telling
19:04
Speaker 2: you this is what happened. When other safeties got hurt.
19:08
Speaker 2: They elevated guys from the practice squad. They didn't put
19:11
Speaker 2: Miles out there at the safety position. You know, they
19:15
Speaker 2: viewed him as a guy who made the roster as
19:18
Speaker 2: a special teamer and that was valued, and he was
19:20
Speaker 2: an all pro. I think it's gonna be okay, you
19:25
Speaker 2: can do this and also play special teams and not
19:28
Speaker 2: that it's an afterthought, but it's just you better be
19:31
Speaker 2: versatile enough to help. So maybe that mitigates a little
19:35
Speaker 2: bit of a roster crunch problem by keeping four quarterbacks.
19:40
Speaker 2: But what it does mean is somebody's gonna be edged off,
19:43
Speaker 2: and so these position battles that we've talked about is
19:46
Speaker 2: now a plus one. There's gonna be one more position
19:49
Speaker 2: battle out there. Yeah, you know on Friday night and
19:52
Speaker 2: then the following Thursday night in Buffalo.
19:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you better prove that you can do everything.
19:59
Speaker 3: You can sweep while mopping while also doing the windows
20:02
Speaker 3: and the dishes, right, you know, you're gonna have to
20:05
Speaker 3: be multifaceted to make this team. And I think that's why.
20:09
Speaker 3: And we saw that with Kayden wegen right, putting them
20:12
Speaker 3: out there and having run routes move around in the offense.
20:15
Speaker 3: Can you be a competent receiver for us? Not just
20:18
Speaker 3: a putt and kick return specialist? Eli Heydenreich. Can you
20:22
Speaker 3: do more than just be a guy that's on special
20:25
Speaker 3: teams because we need more than that. Travis Homer personal protector,
20:31
Speaker 3: also got a lot of rest with Mason Rudolph. Can
20:35
Speaker 3: you take the number three running back role and be
20:38
Speaker 3: the third down, third option back for us? So there's
20:41
Speaker 3: a lot lot of green grass and opportunity for guys
20:45
Speaker 3: on the football field.
20:45
Speaker 2: And it's interesting that Mike McCarthy calls it four down.
20:49
Speaker 2: I want a four down player now. I wonder if
20:51
Speaker 2: he's saying that advisingly, meaning the fourth down could be
20:54
Speaker 2: special teams.
20:54
Speaker 4: You know that's the fourth whatever it is.
20:57
Speaker 3: On fourth down, you should be able to be an option.
21:00
Speaker 2: So you know, one of the guys and it's just
21:02
Speaker 2: based on based on what we saw. So okay, let
21:06
Speaker 2: me take a half step backward. What you're hoping for,
21:09
Speaker 2: I think is if you're a guy who looks down
21:11
Speaker 2: at the depth chart and sees that you are, you know,
21:14
Speaker 2: way over on that you know, the third or fourth
21:16
Speaker 2: group on the right where you don't want to be.
21:19
Speaker 2: He were trying to move up to that second group
21:21
Speaker 2: because now you've got a chance to make the team.
21:23
Speaker 2: You do wonder if guys like and I don't know
21:26
Speaker 2: whose expenses would come at maybe you just rest somebody,
21:29
Speaker 2: but guys like Anthony Goodlow and Kyler Ball. We talked
21:32
Speaker 2: about on the defensive line, will they now have an
21:35
Speaker 2: opportunity Max to move up and get more of those.
21:39
Speaker 4: Two AA reps?
21:41
Speaker 2: And I and another guy that I'm going to bring
21:42
Speaker 2: up because Mike McCarthy mentioned his name. Now, whether this
21:46
Speaker 2: means he's impressed or whether he's just running through the
21:51
Speaker 2: roster in his mind, I don't know, But he was
21:54
Speaker 2: talked about, Hey, you know who's kind of taken advantage
21:57
Speaker 2: of their opportunities. You know, have some of the young
22:01
Speaker 2: defensive backs taking advantage of their opportunity with some of
22:04
Speaker 2: the guys here, well he went over to the offense
22:05
Speaker 2: or if he was asked about you know, I'm sure
22:07
Speaker 2: he was asked about the wide receiver position because there
22:09
Speaker 2: hasn't been Pittman and Metcalf. Yeah, and he said, yep,
22:13
Speaker 2: Jeremy Roman Max yeah yeah.
22:18
Speaker 3: And I was like, in the next enter him, uh
22:20
Speaker 3: huh and he can return.
22:22
Speaker 2: So right, So now all of a sudden, that feels
22:27
Speaker 2: like game on right Like now again, I don't want
22:30
Speaker 2: to read too much into it. Uh, but it felt
22:32
Speaker 2: like if the coach means is your name, that that's
22:36
Speaker 2: probably a good thing.
22:37
Speaker 3: You pop, especially in that context.
22:39
Speaker 4: Right.
22:39
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is the context that it
22:41
Speaker 3: comes under, like, hey, because these guys are out, who
22:44
Speaker 3: got the opportunities? And when you automatically think boom boom boom,
22:48
Speaker 3: it's like these guys stood out. This wasn't like, whoa,
22:52
Speaker 3: we're trying to get some guys and you know, we're
22:54
Speaker 3: just trying to get more out of them. Right then
22:56
Speaker 3: you kind of just leave like a blanket group statement.
22:59
Speaker 3: He was like, nope, Jermy Roman Max all of them
23:03
Speaker 3: and did not mention Cayden Legion, did not mention Brandon Smith. Well,
23:06
Speaker 3: I also thought had a good game.
23:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he mentioned Kayden Legion and said he has
23:11
Speaker 4: to clean up some stuff.
23:12
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah it was. It was He's like, yeah,
23:14
Speaker 3: he had to catch a run, he's got to clean
23:16
Speaker 3: up some stuff.
23:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so I think you know, again, uh
23:21
Speaker 2: is this sometimes? And Mike Tomlin brought up a guy
23:24
Speaker 2: you understood that you trying to push that guy's buttons, right,
23:27
Speaker 2: And I don't know what this means.
23:30
Speaker 3: Uh?
23:30
Speaker 2: So again I I we're all new to this. But
23:34
Speaker 2: to Kayden, Legion's got to clean up some stuff. But
23:36
Speaker 2: I mean he's still the return man right now. But
23:38
Speaker 2: the fact that Max Hurlman got mentioned and you start
23:41
Speaker 2: to think, okay, well, you know, you know DK is
23:46
Speaker 2: going to make the team. You know Pittman's going to
23:48
Speaker 2: make the teams too, you know Jeremy Bernard's going to
23:50
Speaker 2: make the team. Now you've got Roman Wilson who's having
23:53
Speaker 2: a really good care. You got Ben Scarnik five, and
23:57
Speaker 2: then you have Legion and Hurleman, Brad Smith. That's an
24:03
Speaker 2: interesting position to be, Max, And whether you can slide
24:07
Speaker 2: a guy onto a practice squad who then becomes a
24:11
Speaker 2: guy who steps up and helps you, or whether you
24:14
Speaker 2: risk losing that guy. But I'm gonna be taking a
24:16
Speaker 2: good long look. He's one of the guys now. All
24:20
Speaker 2: of a sudden popped up boom, Max Turlman's on my
24:23
Speaker 2: radar to see see what he does on Friday night.
24:25
Speaker 3: And game tape matters, like, it's not just about what
24:29
Speaker 3: happens on the football practice field. It's about what do
24:32
Speaker 3: you deliver when the lights go on? What do you
24:35
Speaker 3: deliver when the fans show up? At the stadium and
24:37
Speaker 3: it counts. Can I depend on you? Can you become
24:40
Speaker 3: something more than what we think you are as a
24:45
Speaker 3: practice player, And that's what we thought about Jeremy Binard.
24:48
Speaker 3: Like watching Jerremy Bnar play versus watching me hear win
24:50
Speaker 3: our practice are too many are two different things. Because
24:54
Speaker 3: he can't show off his physicality out here, that's right,
24:57
Speaker 3: he can't. He can't break a tackle because there's no tackling,
25:00
Speaker 3: So his value comes in watching him play in live
25:03
Speaker 3: stadium events. And Max Hurlman, we know he's fast, we
25:08
Speaker 3: know he has a skill set, but we didn't know
25:10
Speaker 3: he was that fast. The penalties that he was drawn
25:13
Speaker 3: down field, that was moving the chains for the offense.
25:16
Speaker 3: Like that's a real tangible stat when you're getting thirty
25:19
Speaker 3: you know, twenty five thirty five yards a clip on
25:22
Speaker 3: a penalty. That's that's field flipping type of stuff like
25:26
Speaker 3: what Calvin Austin used to do. And you're like, okay,
25:29
Speaker 3: well if that's something that you can work into, Like, hey,
25:31
Speaker 3: he's going to draw penalties because of his speed, and
25:34
Speaker 3: he's also a returner. He's gonna turn some heads.
25:37
Speaker 4: It's making thing twice yep.
25:38
Speaker 2: And when I look at the tight end situation, it
25:40
Speaker 2: looks to me, you know, we're assuming, I'm assuming they're
25:43
Speaker 2: gonna keep three.
25:45
Speaker 4: It looks to me like that Nail.
25:46
Speaker 2: Is pretty much driven in a couple more donks in
25:49
Speaker 2: the hammer from Robert Tunyan and that he might not
25:52
Speaker 2: even need to get He might already.
25:53
Speaker 3: Be on the team. I think Robert Tity's on the team. Okay,
25:56
Speaker 3: So after the two minute drill, it's like going into
25:58
Speaker 3: halftime like, hey, Bud, don't worry about it. You're good.
26:01
Speaker 4: You're just going to take the pads off.
26:04
Speaker 3: We'll see you week one.
26:05
Speaker 2: And Riley Nowakowski, you know, at the full back position.
26:08
Speaker 2: Was interesting to see them in there in play number one,
26:11
Speaker 2: and they've been talking about how good he is on
26:13
Speaker 2: special teams.
26:14
Speaker 4: Uh so that leads us. And we've talked about the
26:17
Speaker 4: quarterback position. That leads us.
26:18
Speaker 2: As we talk about the offense, did anybody else well
26:21
Speaker 2: you mentioned Brandon.
26:21
Speaker 4: Smith, Brandon Smith and Hurlman.
26:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, those receivers that that showed me something that I
26:27
Speaker 3: was like, oh I was anticipating this. It was it
26:30
Speaker 3: was outside with my expectation level.
26:32
Speaker 2: What did you see from the offensive line? What do
26:35
Speaker 2: you want to see this week.
26:37
Speaker 3: From the offensive line, backside cutoffs, okay, create the lanes
26:41
Speaker 3: for the running backs to run and let them get
26:44
Speaker 3: to the second level cleanly. That's the one thing I
26:47
Speaker 3: didn't see. I didn't see clean second level opportunities for
26:52
Speaker 3: the running backs. So that's what I want to see.
26:54
Speaker 3: The offensive line get better at pass protection as well.
26:59
Speaker 3: You know, don't want to see the sacks. Hate seeing
27:01
Speaker 3: the sacks. Give your quarterback time and give him at
27:04
Speaker 3: least two point three to two point five seconds before
27:06
Speaker 3: the guy gets there. Don't just turn them loose. I
27:11
Speaker 3: would love to see Maxian on sure, but I don't
27:12
Speaker 3: think we're gonna see him. We don't see him in
27:15
Speaker 3: practice on Wednesday. I don't expect see him on Friday.
27:17
Speaker 2: Door was left slightly Ajar Mike McCarthy said, probably not,
27:22
Speaker 2: but we'll see what happens over the next forty eight hours.
27:25
Speaker 2: If he's in practice, he's got an opportunity. And that's
27:28
Speaker 2: a shame for Max because he was really having it.
27:31
Speaker 2: It appeared from my eyes, Max that he was having
27:34
Speaker 2: a really solid camp. And now you're pursing your lips.
27:40
Speaker 3: Max. Yeah, person, Yeah, yeah, I know, because I'm trying
27:43
Speaker 3: to take in the information and think about this because
27:45
Speaker 3: I thought it was good, but it wasn't enough. And
27:48
Speaker 3: that's where I teeter with, if you're going to put
27:55
Speaker 3: this challenge out here, I want to see more movement
27:58
Speaker 3: at the right tackle position, because Dylan Cook and Spencer
28:02
Speaker 3: Anderson played well into the third quarter in that first
28:04
Speaker 3: preseason game right and we heard this as a competition.
28:06
Speaker 3: We heard Broderick Jones gonna be involved Projerck played primarily
28:09
Speaker 3: left tackle, and then Jack driscoll went in at right tackle,
28:12
Speaker 3: and then after Jack Driskell, that's when Broderick got moved
28:15
Speaker 3: over to the right. Doug Nester, who's a tackle, played primarily
28:17
Speaker 3: left guard, and then you saw Brock Coffin, Ryan McCollum,
28:20
Speaker 3: Jennings dunker at the right guard positions. Jenning's been at
28:23
Speaker 3: left almost all camp until this game. So that's where
28:28
Speaker 3: I'm like, I get you trying to create these combinations,
28:31
Speaker 3: but if you're really competing for who could start for
28:34
Speaker 3: you at right tackle, I should have saw Broderick Jones
28:37
Speaker 3: there after Dylan Cook because Maxianachuur is not available, and
28:43
Speaker 3: see if that's the competition now, because I think you're
28:47
Speaker 3: settled in on Troy and Mason being on your left
28:51
Speaker 3: side and going Zach. Zach is literally the center of
28:55
Speaker 3: it all. And so yeah, so it's just I would
28:57
Speaker 3: have loved to see things a little bit different. Configuration one.
29:00
Speaker 2: I think it's tough for Maxahonachur. Now he's missed one game,
29:05
Speaker 2: he's missed a week or eight days of practice, eight
29:09
Speaker 2: practice days, right, Yeah, it looks like he's probably going
29:12
Speaker 2: to miss another game.
29:13
Speaker 4: Very very tough.
29:14
Speaker 2: I know you have I know you have a game,
29:17
Speaker 2: one last game, and hopefully you can get in there,
29:19
Speaker 2: and then you have quite a bit of practice time
29:22
Speaker 2: leading up to the opener, which which is a little different.
29:26
Speaker 4: Than in your day.
29:26
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, he had that fourth game and
29:29
Speaker 2: a little less time in preparation for the regular season.
29:33
Speaker 2: I mean, is that enough time to get a rookie
29:35
Speaker 2: up to snuff.
29:36
Speaker 3: He needs contact and he needs competitive reps. That's why
29:41
Speaker 3: the preseason is so valuable, because you're getting competitive reps
29:45
Speaker 3: to get you ready. And even if you stuck him
29:48
Speaker 3: in and played him the whole third preseason game, I
29:52
Speaker 3: hate to say it, but it's not gonna be NFL talent.
29:54
Speaker 4: The whole game, right, So it might not be any
29:56
Speaker 4: of the game.
29:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you know what I'm saying. So you're not
29:59
Speaker 3: really getting ready for what the NFL Week one talent's
30:05
Speaker 3: going to look like. So do you risk putting him
30:10
Speaker 3: out there too soon? And you can't pull back once
30:13
Speaker 3: you open Pandora's box of a first round or starting,
30:16
Speaker 3: you can't pull that back and you can ruin them right.
30:20
Speaker 3: You can only make a first impression once. And so
30:24
Speaker 3: if it's me, I'm like, I'm gonna wait a couple
30:26
Speaker 3: of weeks. I'm gona figure it out. But let me
30:28
Speaker 3: figure out between Dylan Cook and Broderick Jones, because Roderick,
30:33
Speaker 3: one of those guys is gonna be your swing. Right
30:35
Speaker 3: of the two, one of them is gonna be the swing.
30:37
Speaker 3: So let me figure out because Max is just the
30:39
Speaker 3: right tackle. Is that the biggest battle that remains in
30:41
Speaker 3: the offensive line? I think is there a battle for
30:43
Speaker 3: right guard? I think there still is, but I think
30:46
Speaker 3: Spencer Anderson's kind of paced himself away. I think he's
30:52
Speaker 3: that's where the battle is still going.
30:53
Speaker 2: So keep an eye on Max, sort keep an eye
30:55
Speaker 2: in the quarterbacks. Of course, all that just quickly. It'll
31:01
Speaker 2: be interesting to me to see if there's any different
31:04
Speaker 2: rotation at the running back position. Correct, and if Jalen
31:08
Speaker 2: and Rico Dowdle are playing, that is going to cut
31:11
Speaker 2: into reps further down the line. I was quite surprised
31:15
Speaker 2: to see Caleb Johnson, I don't believe entered the game until.
31:18
Speaker 3: The fourth quarter. He did not. Yes, that surprised me,
31:21
Speaker 3: and only two rushes.
31:23
Speaker 4: Yes, that surprised me.
31:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, so well, surprising but also telling.
31:28
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly exactly.
31:30
Speaker 2: So I think in a there are certain guys and
31:34
Speaker 2: we're gonna get some mon defense. There's certain guys where
31:36
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see Mac Turlman, Does Caleb Johnson, Max
31:41
Speaker 2: Turleman because what he showed Caleb Johnson because he's a
31:43
Speaker 2: third round pick, Broderick Jones. Does some of these guys
31:48
Speaker 2: just get in a little sooner than they did last week?
31:51
Speaker 2: And will that be telling? So those are the positions,
31:54
Speaker 2: and again, of course the quarterback position, we understand that.
31:57
Speaker 3: So I think that's it, but it's more of a
31:59
Speaker 3: few your position, Yes, that's right, but it's.
32:05
Speaker 4: Exactly it's the quarterback. We're all gonna be watching it.
32:08
Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna be making proclamations on X and all this
32:11
Speaker 2: other stuff. But I think for me, does Max Hurtleman
32:15
Speaker 2: ascend a little bit more? What's going on at right tackle?
32:19
Speaker 2: And is the running back rotation going to remain the same.
32:23
Speaker 2: Those are the three things I'm looking.
32:24
Speaker 3: For on offense. Yeah, third running back and that fifth
32:27
Speaker 3: sixth receiver is gonna be very very interesting.
32:30
Speaker 4: Okay, And you're throwing Brandon Smith in there as well.
32:32
Speaker 3: I'm throwing Brandon Smith. Okay, I thought because I thought
32:34
Speaker 3: there was a lot of trust. He gets a lot
32:35
Speaker 3: of balls, He gets a lot of volume out here,
32:37
Speaker 3: and he got a lot of volume in the game
32:38
Speaker 3: on Thursday night.
32:39
Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna look at the defense as we continue this.
32:42
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32:45
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33:51
Speaker 4: And welcome back in the locker room. There we go, Rob, wait,
33:54
Speaker 4: I have it's on backward.
33:55
Speaker 3: It's all right, It's fine. I mean, yeah, it's radio.
33:59
Speaker 4: It's radio.
34:00
Speaker 3: Long as you can talk. That's the most important thing.
34:02
Speaker 3: That muffling sound you hear is definitely Rob moving the
34:06
Speaker 3: headset around. But Rob, you missed something yesterday, and I
34:14
Speaker 3: felt appropriate, since we're here at this very special time,
34:19
Speaker 3: it might be time for the bell lap.
34:22
Speaker 4: Dake it best, dang it?
34:25
Speaker 3: I thought Justin was on top of that. We did
34:26
Speaker 3: the bell lap yesterday?
34:27
Speaker 4: Did we did? How about the how about the trope?
34:30
Speaker 4: Five hundred?
34:33
Speaker 3: There?
34:34
Speaker 4: We got the troll five of the show.
34:36
Speaker 3: It's the end of the show. Thing the end of
34:38
Speaker 3: the show. And also we're like a day early from
34:40
Speaker 3: what we thought.
34:40
Speaker 4: It was going to be.
34:41
Speaker 2: But it's got to be cued up because it's over. Yeah,
34:44
Speaker 2: it's the end of it, and it's and it's a
34:45
Speaker 2: locker room tradition.
34:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, we must, we must play the Matthew McConaughey to
34:50
Speaker 3: end it.
34:50
Speaker 4: You are the keeper of the flame.
34:51
Speaker 3: Yes, got to you got to that is that is
34:54
Speaker 3: a tradition. That that will that will go time eternal
34:58
Speaker 3: for us here. So we'll get to the end of
35:01
Speaker 3: the show and then we will outro that.
35:03
Speaker 2: How about we out I'm very poor about remembering that
35:06
Speaker 2: kind of thing.
35:07
Speaker 4: So is that better?
35:09
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the pointed it's the pointed one. It's just
35:14
Speaker 3: it doesn't carry as much.
35:16
Speaker 2: Okay, defense, I gotta tell you first guy I'm looking
35:21
Speaker 2: at on defense number one guy Gabriel Rubio.
35:26
Speaker 3: He was our camp sleeper when when we were doing
35:29
Speaker 3: our Campy Awards, just because nobody knew about him.
35:36
Speaker 2: When he got drafted, there were the people on TV
35:39
Speaker 2: were like, I got nothing. Yeah, he played for Notre
35:42
Speaker 2: Dame and he got hurt and didn't play towards the
35:44
Speaker 2: end of the season.
35:44
Speaker 4: People like, I don't know, think about it.
35:46
Speaker 3: They don't even have a stock photo of him.
35:47
Speaker 4: How about that? Isn't that crazy?
35:49
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous, didn't get invited to the combine out of
35:53
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty possible interior defensive lineman just came
35:58
Speaker 3: out of nowhere. But you knew there was something there.
36:02
Speaker 3: Steelers scouts looked at him, Jim Ward and company looked
36:05
Speaker 3: at him, and they found him. Hey day three, sixth
36:11
Speaker 3: round passion pick. Those are passion picks for the for
36:14
Speaker 3: the scouts, and you you stumped for him, And man,
36:19
Speaker 3: did he look good. He looked like a guy that belonged.
36:23
Speaker 3: And he looked like a guy that played varsity and
36:26
Speaker 3: got demoted to JV out of spite so he could
36:29
Speaker 3: get some reps. And with pissed off, he was on
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Speaker 3: JV and just started beating everybody up.
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Speaker 2: Analogy to me, I mean, you know, look, I thought, again,
36:40
Speaker 2: we'll kyler ball move up a little bit, get some
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Speaker 2: reps closer to the beginning of the game than the
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Speaker 2: end of the game. Anthony Goodlow was a guy I
36:48
Speaker 2: think we both thought looked pretty good. Does he have
36:50
Speaker 2: an opportunity to get some snaps closer to the game
36:53
Speaker 2: the beginning of the game then the end of the game,
36:56
Speaker 2: you know, And I don't know whether I don't know
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Speaker 2: whether coaches at this point, I think and and player
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Speaker 2: personnel people think, and I'm not using these guys in specific,
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Speaker 2: but since we're talking about them, Hey, listen, you know
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Speaker 2: here the six or seven guys that we really think
37:13
Speaker 2: are battling for.
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Speaker 4: Six says You told me whoa you know? Did Lowry?
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Speaker 4: You know Logan the obviously he's hurt Rubio the other guys.
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Speaker 4: We don't want them to look.
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Speaker 2: Too good because we want to stop making plays.
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Speaker 4: They're not going to be.
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Speaker 2: They're not going to make our six but we wanted
37:33
Speaker 2: to make our They're not going to make our fifty.
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Speaker 3: Three, seven and eight part of our sixth. Oh heck yeah,
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Speaker 3: I believe that happens. Listen, this is all a game
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Speaker 3: of chess. Everybody's trying to play the shell game. Everybody's
37:46
Speaker 3: trying to play the shell game, and they don't want
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Speaker 3: anything that could take away from their leverage position. And
37:53
Speaker 3: especially when it's a guy that you brought into camp.
37:56
Speaker 3: You don't want another team poaching your quote unquote your stock. Right,
38:01
Speaker 3: It's like it's like when the It's like when the
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Speaker 3: coyote was like when a coyote or a wolf gets it,
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Speaker 3: gets it gets in the sheep into that open area.
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Speaker 3: You don't want that wolf coming in and just culling
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Speaker 3: half your stock.
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Speaker 2: And then it takes a good scout. But again, these
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Speaker 2: guys already are familiar with these players. It's not like
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Speaker 2: they're turning on you know, let's say.
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Speaker 3: Gave Ruby apparently.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's a good point. But I mean,
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Speaker 4: now the guy you've probably get hit it had he
38:27
Speaker 4: not done so well, you scouts knew him.
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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like, at the end of the game,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's not like, hey, who's just it's not
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Speaker 2: like they're up there, you know, uh, you know, Andy
38:37
Speaker 2: Wide and Omar and looking at these guys and be like, hey,
38:39
Speaker 2: who's number seventy four for the Jets. They know who
38:42
Speaker 2: he is, right, yeah, And they may see something that
38:44
Speaker 2: sparks a memory or it's a continuous.
38:47
Speaker 3: And that's another thing process, Yeah, because they've also scouted
38:50
Speaker 3: these guys when they were draft picks, and maybe there
38:52
Speaker 3: was a guy that they wanted they couldn't get two, three,
38:56
Speaker 3: four years ago, and now that guy comes around it
38:58
Speaker 3: you remember that guy and you're like, I'm gonna take
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Speaker 3: a swing at this guy because this is a guy
39:03
Speaker 3: I wanted before, so you So yeah, the scouting process
39:07
Speaker 3: never stopped, especially when you have the consistency of scouts,
39:12
Speaker 3: meaning tenuere serve consecutively for an organization. You get that overlap, right,
39:17
Speaker 3: you get that opportunity to say, man, here's our even
39:20
Speaker 3: like Jalen Ramsey was one of the classic examples that
39:24
Speaker 3: they scouted him. Man, they wanted him back in the day,
39:26
Speaker 3: but he just he was gonna go too high. I mean,
39:28
Speaker 3: he was the number he was the number one safety
39:30
Speaker 3: at number one quarter on the board, and it was
39:33
Speaker 3: it was a Travis Hunter like situation, except for on
39:35
Speaker 3: the same side of the ball.
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Speaker 4: So yes.
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Speaker 2: And in case you want to get too fancy, right, yeah,
39:42
Speaker 2: So I think when a guy's just simply too good,
39:45
Speaker 2: improving himself too much, you can't do it right. So
39:49
Speaker 2: a different sport, but a classic example of a team
39:52
Speaker 2: trying to get cute to Brooklyn Dodgers at an outfit.
39:55
Speaker 4: They're like, well, just full hide this guy nobody nobody,
39:58
Speaker 4: and the.
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Speaker 2: Pirates are like, we'll take him. Roberto Clemente.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, time, you don't want to be making that Roberto
40:06
Speaker 4: Clemente personnel mistake. No, hey, we're really clever. We're gonna
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Speaker 4: hide this guy somebody else.
40:12
Speaker 2: Somebody else grabs him, and next thing you know, he's
40:14
Speaker 2: got a yellowjacket.
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Speaker 4: He's making his speech and can't.
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Speaker 3: I can't do that. Bring it over here, okay, so quickly.
40:20
Speaker 2: Then again I can't. I don't know as there's anybody
40:26
Speaker 2: else the guys we talked about. For obvious reasons, I'm
40:31
Speaker 2: gonna skip to the secondary Robert Spears Jennings. I think
40:34
Speaker 2: we both love what we saw there. Let's see some
40:36
Speaker 2: more as he tries to solidify a spot. Yeah, he's
40:40
Speaker 2: in a roster back.
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Speaker 3: He's trying to make that second wave of guys, trying
40:43
Speaker 3: to be on the second, second level team, that third
40:45
Speaker 3: and fourth safety.
40:46
Speaker 2: I think he's probably I think Daleen Everett is going
40:49
Speaker 2: to make the team, you know, third round pick, a corner,
40:51
Speaker 2: Robert Spears Jennings. When you get drafted further down, it's
40:53
Speaker 2: a little bit of a harbor climb. So I'm gonna
40:55
Speaker 2: put him in the same category as Gabe Rubio as
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Speaker 2: draft picks from this year. Later draft picks, it's it's,
41:06
Speaker 2: you know, they've got to fight to make the team.
41:09
Speaker 2: You know, if you're a you know, nobody wants to
41:12
Speaker 2: have a bad day, and they'll get on you if
41:13
Speaker 2: they do. But if you're a high draft pick and
41:15
Speaker 2: you okay, But if you're further down, every everything is.
41:19
Speaker 4: Magnified every thing.
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Speaker 2: So those are the two guys I think I'm most
41:24
Speaker 2: looking at it defense, and then I really want to
41:27
Speaker 2: see where Landon Roberts slots in at the inside linebacker.
41:31
Speaker 3: Is gonna be the most intriguing of the linebackers because
41:34
Speaker 3: you know, Carson Brunner's slated and Cole Cole Holcomb are
41:38
Speaker 3: both your second team linebackers. Does e rob move one
41:41
Speaker 3: of those guys out or and who yeah? And who
41:44
Speaker 3: of those guys? And if not, if he's on the
41:47
Speaker 3: third level, well then I'll tell you something as well.
41:51
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be very interesting to see where he lands.
41:53
Speaker 3: But I also another guy, Rayshawn Jenkins. Throw him in there.
41:56
Speaker 3: I thought he's a safety positions in the safety position
41:58
Speaker 3: and is he mccuambo he had those Even though he
42:01
Speaker 3: had those, uh those two penalties, dude got a sack,
42:05
Speaker 3: blisted off the edge, filled in the hole, and made
42:08
Speaker 3: some plays in the run game on the outside zone.
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Speaker 4: Got one more for you, Jamie Davis.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yep, I really, I'm real number fifty seven, Jam Davis.
42:19
Speaker 4: I am really really intrigued to see if he's a
42:24
Speaker 4: guy that moves up in the rotation, and if he
42:27
Speaker 4: does move up at the rotation at who's expense.
42:30
Speaker 3: Well, there's only one guy. The other three aren't moving, right, Yeah,
42:33
Speaker 3: so yeah, yeah, there's only one place he could go
42:37
Speaker 3: if he is going to move up.
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Speaker 2: I think it's and again, you know, look, we don't
42:43
Speaker 2: know what the internal evaluations are that that might be
42:46
Speaker 2: a position where And again I'm just throwing it out
42:48
Speaker 2: there because these are the kind of discussions that are
42:50
Speaker 2: no doubt happening as we speak. We got to keep five,
42:54
Speaker 2: We got it, We just have to. Okay, well, then
42:57
Speaker 2: that means somebody else is losing a position.
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Speaker 3: You cut, who are you cutting?
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Speaker 4: That's right?
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Speaker 3: Were you cutting?
43:02
Speaker 4: You keep four quarterbacks, somebody's gone, You keep five outside linebackers,
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Speaker 4: somebody's gone.
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Speaker 3: Somebody's gone. And that's where it gets really tough, because
43:12
Speaker 3: now it's say we don't keep if you keep the
43:15
Speaker 3: fifth linebacker, say you may not have four safeties, right,
43:22
Speaker 3: that's right if you keep because you know, and here's
43:25
Speaker 3: another reason why, Because now you can.
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Speaker 2: Say, all right, well we have a for safety. It's
43:29
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey. If we need to move them back there,
43:32
Speaker 2: we know we can do a fine job back there.
43:34
Speaker 2: So that's how we're going to parse it together. And
43:36
Speaker 2: by the way, if you're on the team.
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Speaker 4: You know that right exactly. Yeah, you want to make
43:40
Speaker 4: sure that you're not the guy who gets bumped.
43:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to be the fringe guy, right,
43:44
Speaker 3: you don't want to be the line of demarcation.
43:46
Speaker 2: But hey, the good news is you're force safety. The
43:49
Speaker 2: bad news is we're only carrying freely.
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Speaker 3: Exactly.
43:52
Speaker 2: That's that's not what you want to hear. So some
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Speaker 2: intriguing battles. Can't wait, my friend, See, the camp is over,
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Speaker 2: but the shows continue on because it is time for
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Speaker 2: the drive. Our good friends Wes Euler and Matt Williams
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Speaker 2: that are going to take over from here.
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Speaker 4: For Max Starks, see you on Friday night, my friend,
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Speaker 4: see you Friday.
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Speaker 2: I'm Rob King, And for Justin Miller, I'm sorry, but.
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Speaker 1: Hey, all right, all right, all right.
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Speaker 3: You cole man.
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Speaker 4: Dark your and there we have it, the official end
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