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Ninjas and Practical FX · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Greg Nicotero from The Walking Dead. This
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  Speaker 1: is Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: It's showtime.
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  Speaker 3: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 3: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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  Speaker 3: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 4: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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  Speaker 2: Kilowatts of power. provide more cooling in the containment chambers.
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  Speaker 5: To your stations, we.
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  Speaker 6: Have a movie meltdown.
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  Speaker 5: Cowabunga!
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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Christian.
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  Speaker 1: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 1: Fandom Fest. So Christian, how's your day been?
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  Speaker 4: It's been a day at A wonderful Phantom Fest 2015.
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  Speaker 8: We're currently watching Dr. Eugene from Walking Dead playing Duck Hunt.
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  Speaker 4: And we were watching some kid get mowed down on
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  Speaker 4: this blow up thing with a spinny deal on it.
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  Speaker 4: Called Meltdown.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We're standing here.
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  Speaker 8: One of them is like a bouncy castle with an
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  Speaker 8: arm ready to take out goofy kids like this one that.
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  Speaker 1: May have just gotten laid out. And then the little
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  Speaker 1: arcade set up over here where Dr. Eugene, fake Dr.
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  Speaker 8: Eugene from Walking Dead has decided to wander over and
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  Speaker 8: play Duck Hunt.
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  Speaker 1: Which is pretty entertaining.
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  Speaker 4: It's pretty entertaining that he's been going at it for
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  Speaker 4: a while now.
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  Speaker 8: It's not like he did a couple and wandered off.
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  Speaker 8: He's been here for like 10 minutes.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe he's like a Duck Hunt pro.
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  Speaker 8: Hardcore fanatic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's been pretty interesting watching that. And then
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  Speaker 4: we had a Kevin Nash from WWE fame over there
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  Speaker 4: talking to that other dude. Just hanging out. No big deal.
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  Speaker 4: Just hanging out.
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  Speaker 1: He's just people. They're just like us.
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  Speaker 4: They put their pants on one leg at a time.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how I do it.
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  Speaker 8: Anyway, so if nothing else, let's kick things off with
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  Speaker 8: Geek Activities.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen anything lately?
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  Speaker 4: Actually, I just watched Cake last night.
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  Speaker 1: I heard someone's take on cake the other day.
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  Speaker 4: Did it take the cake?
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  Speaker 8: It seems interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm still trying to process it.
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  Speaker 1: It seems kind of heavy.
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  Speaker 4: It's heavy. The ending had this whole little bit more
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  Speaker 4: uplifting resolution. I don't want to give any spoilers because
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  Speaker 4: I know you're probably going to check it out. This
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  Speaker 4: seems really superficial. But it was really nice seeing Jennifer
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  Speaker 4: Aniston in a less than attractive role.
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  Speaker 9: Like, she looked....
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  Speaker 4: She looked the part that she was playing.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty much what we were discussing the other day.
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  Speaker 8: I was like, you know, it's one of those I
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  Speaker 8: always kind of want to write off Jennifer Aniston.
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  Speaker 2: Like.
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  Speaker 8: Her goofy romantic comedies, which is another to sidetrack here.
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  Speaker 8: I do not understand how they kept giving them to
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  Speaker 8: her because.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that any of them made money either.
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  Speaker 8: Like most of those weird big budget romantic comedy kind
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  Speaker 8: of standard rom-com bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: Like none of them really did that well at the theater.
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  Speaker 8: Like she for as much money as she made on TV,
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  Speaker 8: like theatrically, she never really pulled in a ton of money.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe that was just to supplement her income so that
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  Speaker 4: she could.
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  Speaker 1: Tax write-off.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Something. Because, I mean, I've just now come to terms
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  Speaker 4: with the fact that I don't feel like I have
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  Speaker 4: to hide that I love cheesy, bullshit rom-coms. I love them.
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  Speaker 4: Jennifer Aniston.
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  Speaker 1: All right, you don't have to, but it might be recommended.
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  Speaker 4: Jennifer Aniston... Any of the ones that she was in,
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  Speaker 4: never really cared for.
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  Speaker 1: Again, most of them I haven't seen.
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  Speaker 8: And the only time she's good in stuff is usually
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  Speaker 8: when she's, like, a secondary character.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 8: Like, any of the ones that she was lead in,
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  Speaker 8: I either never watched them because the trailers looked so bad,
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  Speaker 8: or what I.
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  Speaker 1: Saw of them, I'm like, wow, this is just a
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  Speaker 1: bad movie.
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  Speaker 8: Like, she might be all right in it, I guess,
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  Speaker 8: doing her standard traditional thing.
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  Speaker 1: But, yeah, it's just not a good movie.
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  Speaker 8: So I don't know if that's all they were giving
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  Speaker 8: her were those big, dumb, big-budget scripts.
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  Speaker 1: But, like.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and it seems really strange. I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 4: it's just... You know, every star kind of goes through their... Like,
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  Speaker 4: they have their heyday. And, you know, they're the big name.
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  Speaker 4: And so she's in Friends. And she's Rachel from Friends.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like it was almost a misstep in
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  Speaker 4: her career to be in all of these movies because
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  Speaker 4: you don't see her as anything but Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty much.
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  Speaker 8: But every time she'd turn in a weird indie film
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  Speaker 8: performance that was good, you'd be like, oh, yeah, she can. Like,
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  Speaker 8: every time I watch one, I'm like, oh, yeah, she
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  Speaker 8: is actually a decent actress.
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  Speaker 1: Like, she just.
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  Speaker 8: doesn't get to do it much in these big, dumb rom-coms.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what I appreciated about Cake. I mean, maybe
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  Speaker 4: she has done something in the past few years, but
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  Speaker 4: I can't really think of much.
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  Speaker 8: Again, not a lead, not her traditional rom-com, the Life
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  Speaker 8: of Crime. It's the one that Jennifer Prediger, her husband,
• 6:03
  Speaker 8: I think it's her husband, husband or boyfriend, directed it.
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  Speaker 8: And she has a really bit, actually, she's almost completely
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  Speaker 8: cut out if you watch it.
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  Speaker 1: But I watched it just because she talks so much
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 8: And then I also remembered, oh, yeah, this is the
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  Speaker 8: one that is basically, it's the same writer that wrote
• 6:20
  Speaker 8: Jackie Brown.
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  Speaker 1: So it's the same characters. Samuel L.
• 6:25
  Speaker 8: Jackson and Robert De Niro and Jackie Brown, these are them,
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  Speaker 8: but it's prequel-like, so it's years before, and it's played
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  Speaker 8: by two other awesome actors in this version. But it's
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  Speaker 8: a good story. It is a solid, well-written screenplay. That
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  Speaker 8: director does a great job with it, and everybody's performance
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  Speaker 8: is good, including Jennifer Aniston is the spoiled housewife that
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  Speaker 8: gets kidnapped. And so, yes, she can play that because
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  Speaker 8: she brings a little bit of spoiled Rachel to the table.
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  Speaker 1: And then it goes a little deeper and you're like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she can act. I kind of forget.
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  Speaker 8: She's actually a decent actress. If you give her something
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  Speaker 8: with some meat on it, she can actually do it.
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  Speaker 9: Sure.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, with Cake, I actually I started it
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  Speaker 4: and I had to watch it in two settings because.
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't that it was too heavy, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it is heavy and it's, you know, kind of depressing
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  Speaker 4: and it's going through, you know, a traumatic, it's going,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this woman has a traumatic experience and, um,
• 7:23
  Speaker 4: you know, she's just dealing with the aftermath of it.
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  Speaker 4: She's dealing with chronic pain, not only physically, but emotionally
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  Speaker 4: and things are, things are going on. And so, okay.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's, it's kind of dark and sad, but I was
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  Speaker 4: just kind of like, I don't know. I just kind
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  Speaker 4: of wasn't in the mood for it. So then I
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  Speaker 4: had to go back and finish it. And I didn't
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  Speaker 4: have to rewatch it because it.
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  Speaker 1: It stuck with you.
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  Speaker 4: It stuck with me enough. But it wasn't like, oh
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  Speaker 4: my gosh, this is so sad. I'm going to go
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  Speaker 4: bawl my eyes out. But I mean, I feel like
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  Speaker 4: she turned in a pretty solid performance. You know, of course,
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  Speaker 4: she's an attorney. I mean, a former attorney in L.A. So,
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  Speaker 4: of course, she's still playing... a somewhat spoiled... Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 1: That's not the worst casting.
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  Speaker 4: Affluent, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's then just giving her something good to do with.
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  Speaker 7: Sure.
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  Speaker 4: So, I don't know. I feel like it was good.
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  Speaker 4: It was worth a watch. Will I watch it again?
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  Speaker 4: Probably not. But I'm glad that I watched it because
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it was... It was a good... It
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  Speaker 4: was a decent movie. And again, like you were saying,
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  Speaker 4: it reminded me that Jennifer Aniston can act in something
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  Speaker 4: other than, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Dumb comedies.
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  Speaker 4: Dumb comedies.
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  Speaker 8: Again, it's one of those, like, I think she doesn't
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  Speaker 8: have that much, but then I go back and, like,
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  Speaker 8: the good girl.
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  Speaker 1: She's really good in that.
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  Speaker 8: Like, she is just, again, it was just such an
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  Speaker 8: indie movie and such a weird, like, pretty early performance
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  Speaker 8: from Jake Gyllenhaal. And, like, it's just such a great
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  Speaker 8: little indie movie that you're like, man, she probably got
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  Speaker 8: nothing for doing this.
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  Speaker 1: And she did it just because it was a great screenplay.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And even, like, she's the one. I really love she's
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  Speaker 1: the one.
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  Speaker 9: She's, like, well.
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  Speaker 8: Like, she's not even a third-end character. Like, she's, like,
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  Speaker 8: four or five in on that cast. Total supporting role. And, like,
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  Speaker 8: has some decent scenes. Like, kind of, you know, it's
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  Speaker 8: well-written dialogue. And she, again, proves she can do something
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  Speaker 8: with that.
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  Speaker 1: So, it's one of those that kind of, yeah, I always,
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  Speaker 1: at knee-jerk reaction, write her off. It's like, eh, whatever.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: Nobody liked Picture Perfect. But then you go back and look.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm like, oh, yeah, she actually did a lot
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  Speaker 8: of other good, usually all the indie stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And, like, she can do decent stuff. She just needs
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  Speaker 1: to do.
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  Speaker 7: More of it.
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  Speaker 4: I actually made the mistake of not too long ago
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  Speaker 4: going back and watching Picture Perfect because I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I think I liked this. I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not very good with turning off movies when
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  Speaker 4: they're bad. Why is the General Lee coming our direction?
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: Because we're lucky. It's heading right for us.
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  Speaker 9: Yeehaw.
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  Speaker 4: I'm always curious when I see the General Lee. My dad's.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: There it is. There we go.
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  Speaker 4: One of my dad's friends has a General Lee.
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  Speaker 7: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always curious.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: Woohoo!
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  Speaker 4: That's a heck of an exit.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, I.
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  Speaker 4: Tried to go back and watch Picture Perfect and didn't
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  Speaker 4: shut it off and immediately regretted my decision as soon
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  Speaker 4: as it was over. Wasted moments of my life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was so bad.
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  Speaker 9: So bad.
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  Speaker 4: Even, you know, being the rom-com lover that I am,
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  Speaker 4: I do have my limits. I'm also distracted by the
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  Speaker 4: fact that I think Dr. Eugene is finally.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he wandered off, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He wandered off a minute ago.
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  Speaker 4: He's broken the record of the duck hunt and made
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  Speaker 4: his way to probably one of our finest establishments on
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  Speaker 4: 4th Street.
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  Speaker 1: Or he just got really upset that that dog kept
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  Speaker 1: laughing at him. Damn you!
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: Stupid dog, I'm out of here! So much anger was
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  Speaker 4: directed at him in my childhood.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: There was many a controller got thrown. That gun. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta be surprised they worked after the abuse that probably
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: most kids put them through.
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  Speaker 9: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: You cheated! Stupid controller!
• 11:28
  Speaker 9: Shut up!
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  Speaker 7: Shut up laughing! Yep.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: This is most of our childhood. Have you been to
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: the theater lately? It's possible. I went one time or so.
• 11:46
  Speaker 7: A couple.
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: I've been wanting to go see Trainwreck.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: I can't decide. I've heard such mixed reviews.
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: I just like Amy Schumer. I like Amy Schumer. I
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: know she's big right now and that's the thing. I
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: have mixed feelings on how I feel like Trainwreck is
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: going to be, but I still want to see it.
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  Speaker 8: As awesome as Amy Schumer is, I hear it's more
• 12:15
  Speaker 8: Judd Apatow, less Amy Schumer.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: At least in the style of what you end up
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  Speaker 8: with and the screenplay and the comedy overall.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the Amy Schumer show, which is what everybody
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  Speaker 1: really wants in a movie.
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  Speaker 8: But at this point, you might as well just watch
• 12:28
  Speaker 8: the Amy Schumer show and get your fix.
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  Speaker 4: This is going to drive me crazy. It's why I
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: remember when it was the last thing.
• 12:35
  Speaker 10: I saw in the theater.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: Jurassic Park?
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  Speaker 9: That was it.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: Jurassic World.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: Jurassic World it is. We have a winner. And your
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: thoughts on Yoshi.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, wait.
• 12:48
  Speaker 8: We're thinking of that shirt we saw earlier with Chris
• 12:50
  Speaker 8: Pratt surrounded by three Yoshis.
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: That was on, like, a gray shirt.
• 12:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 12:55
  Speaker 8: They really needed to, like, give you some color options.
• 12:58
  Speaker 8: It's a little too light for me.
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: It's not white, but it's cream color. And I just
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: feel like it's just going to look really bad before
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: too long.
• 13:04
  Speaker 8: Being someone who frequents horror conventions, you know, you usually
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  Speaker 8: want nothing but black t-shirts.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: But I also am a fan of gray.
• 13:11
  Speaker 8: I like to branch out with my gray t-shirts. But
• 13:14
  Speaker 8: cream color, that's a little too light for me.
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too much. Too much. But yeah, I saw
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: Jurassic World. I'm sure it's been discussed in.
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  Speaker 1: Not at great length.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: What were your thoughts?
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  Speaker 8: Because I've talked to people who love it, and I've
• 13:32
  Speaker 8: talked to people who were just kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of like, yay.
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: I'm curious to know, with the people who loved it,
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: what was the age group?
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: It depends.
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  Speaker 8: I talked to somebody the other day that was like
• 13:45
  Speaker 8: early 20s, but then I was listening to a show,
• 13:48
  Speaker 8: and they were.
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  Speaker 1: Like late 30s and loved it. So I guess it's
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: like kind of hit and miss.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I found just from the people that I've talked to and,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the groups that I kind of tend to
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  Speaker 4: hang with, mostly people at work, if they have any
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: loyalties to the first movie, they're going to absolutely hate
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: this last one.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: Depending on how you look at it.
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: Even as a standalone, it was pretty awful. It was
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: pretty bad. There were parts of it that... I mean...
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Chris Pratt's a golden boy right now.
• 14:29
  Speaker 8: He is, but he proves you still have to have
• 14:32
  Speaker 8: something to do to really come off good because he
• 14:36
  Speaker 8: coasts on the fact that he's still looking pretty hot
• 14:38
  Speaker 8: these days. He's slimmed it down and he looks good
• 14:41
  Speaker 8: and he's just a really likable guy.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: He is.
• 14:45
  Speaker 8: But it's not like Guardians of the Galaxy, he's got
• 14:48
  Speaker 8: a lot to deliver there. That screenplay is so much fun.
• 14:52
  Speaker 8: His dialogue is so much fun and so well delivered
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  Speaker 8: by him, whereas.
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  Speaker 1: Jurassic World, he has nothing to say.
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  Speaker 4: He has nothing to go on. And I wouldn't even
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: say that he phoned it in because, I mean, he
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: didn't have to make any effort because he wasn't given anything.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: The dialogue in that entire movie is awful. Like, it's
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: delivered poorly by every character. It's pretty predictable, which a
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: lot would say that, you know, the first Jurassic Park
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: was somewhat predictable enough.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that first one still holds up.
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  Speaker 4: I really think it does.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, not all of the dialogue was perfect. I mean,
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: some of it was pretty cheesy, but it's a great movie.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: But it was tongue-in-cheek kind of thing. It knew it
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: was playing with how cheesy it was being that first
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: time around.
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  Speaker 4: Jurassic World? Oh, my gosh. Would I group it in
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: with the second and third Jurassic Parks? Probably not.
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: They have a lot of issues. I definitely liked it
• 15:54
  Speaker 8: more than... It's been a long time since I've seen
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  Speaker 8: the other two. I feel like I liked it and
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: had more fun with it than the latter two.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the latter two, I think I've intentionally put them
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  Speaker 4: out of my head. People have had to remind me
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  Speaker 4: what happened in them.
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  Speaker 8: Except the last 15 minutes of the second one, which
• 16:11
  Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure is the only reason Spielberg came back.
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: Because he's like, well, I kind of want to make
• 16:16
  Speaker 8: a Godzilla movie, but people will probably give me shit
• 16:18
  Speaker 8: if I make a Godzilla movie.
• 16:20
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: So how about I just turn my movie into a
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Godzilla movie?
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  Speaker 9: Right.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: So that's the only part that has any... It's sad
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: that any original feel to it when really it's just
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: ripping off Godzilla movies. But the whole.
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: First three-fourths is just rehash of the same movie, only
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: done not as well.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: But I feel like there's scenes that.
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: Are almost hitting the exact same beats from the movie
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: right before it. So I feel like that second one
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: is too familiar until you get to that move into
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: the city portion.
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: With Jurassic World.
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: You know, when you're.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Watching an action movie, there are certain action movies that,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, for instance, I don't know, any of the
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: diehard movies.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Epic, classic action films.
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: But there's a lot of things that you can overlook
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: for the sake of a cheesy action movie. Because Jurassic
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: World isn't necessarily categorized as an action movie or I
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: wouldn't think of it as totally an action movie. in
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: that same vein as, like, you know, die hard or whatever,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: there were a lot of things that it was like,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: you just were totally careless with this, weren't you? I mean,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: that is so not, I mean, yeah, you're talking dinosaurs and,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: you know, dinosaurs that are coming back and they're being
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: engineered and all this stuff. So, yeah, I mean, you've
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: accepted that. But, I mean, it's just little things that,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, the whole, like, I don't know. This is
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: just a nitpicky thing with me, but I guess because
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I wasn't approaching it from the standpoint of it being
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: a total action movie, when they go in and find
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: the jeeps that are sitting there, all I could think was,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: those things wouldn't start because that gasoline is bad. Gasoline
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: goes bad after just a few years, and you cannot
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: run an engine on it. It started right up.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: It started right up.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: But, like, I mean, you know... things you can't overlook
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: like I said but I don't know it just really
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: bothered me and then they have the whole like plot
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: holes and then they introduce things that they never address
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: again like the whole divorce thing with the kids and
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: and what the heck like what are you doing.
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: I feel like the I feel like the action aspect
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: is the part where it worked for me like I
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: feel like in the end I enjoyed the big dumb
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: fun that was dinosaurs running around And the one thing
• 18:47
  Speaker 8: they did that was a big, in this case, kind
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: of improvement for the kind of dumb fun it was
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: trying to be, was they way upped that body count. Like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 8: it is just insanity. Like, compared to, like, that first one,
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: there's hardly anybody.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: On the island.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: A couple of people will die. You know, it's like,
• 19:04
  Speaker 8: there's some people get injured, so a couple of people die.
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: And then they escape. Like, it is just mass hysteria
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: and people dying.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: In Jurassic World. And nobody's exempt from that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: They really just sort of dial up the chaos. And
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: they're just like, let's have fun with this. Want to
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: attack a bunch of kids with pterodactyls?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go. Like, they just kind of don't care.
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: They sacrifice all of that to just the fun of
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: the insanity and chaos that it becomes when everything is
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: let loose.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: That kind of works for me.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I did really enjoy that last scene. I mean, the
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: culminating scene. It feels kind of like the last.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It was funny.
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: I heard somebody say this the very next day after
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: I saw it. They were like, because I'd kind of
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: made my comment that Chris Pratt has nothing to do.
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: I really like Bryce Dallas Howard. Nothing to do. She's
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: for such a strong actress.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: Oh, my gosh.
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: She really likes.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: It hurt me watching her.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: It really did. She's so good and doesn't have anything
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: to do in this.
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: But I was like, the next day somebody came up
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: and was like, you know, it's pretty sad when the
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: most character development in the movie is from a velociraptor.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Blue is awesome. Like, by the end, Blue has a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: story arc.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: I was like, that's, on the one hand, kind of
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: impressive because not only is he a dinosaur, but he's
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: a CG thing. Like, he's not even physically there. But
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: you do start to like him. You start to see
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: some sort of, like, personality to him. And, like, it
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: is pretty interesting that they put that much time and
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: effort into a dinosaur when their human characters really have
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: little personality.
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: No.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're just not given much to work with
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, I like Blue.
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: Blue is kind of, like, Blue and just General Havoc
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: is what saved the movie for me. I still ended
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: up liking it. I still think it's fun. I have
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: been saying that a lot lately, too. But, yeah, I
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: feel like it's not great because of that, you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: that screenplay setup and character development.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: But the one thing I heard.
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: That somebody else mentioned, I went, all right, this is
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: kind of interesting and I feel like I want to
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: rewatch it because of this. They were discussing how interesting
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: it is and how the one thing where it feels
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: like maybe the director is self-aware and put a lot
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: of thought into this is how much he's playing with
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: revisiting that. Like the fact that they go back to
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: the old park, the fact that they bring in all that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: So they're almost like making this social commentary on like, okay,
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: this is how messed up the world was in the 90s.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Look where we are today. Now look how much insanity and,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you know, just bloodbath that this is all going to become.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: This was a bad idea to begin with and we're
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: just going to capitalize on it. And you know, like it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: Just, there's a little of that.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I think there's some truth to it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: Like I do think that he, the director is at
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: least aware that it's not, cause that's the thing you
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: were talking about earlier, being a standalone, like watching it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: I'm like, it's not a standalone. Like it is a
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: true sequel, but, Maybe even skip over the other two,
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: which I guess they still kind of count them as canon.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I think you're.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Supposed to just forget that the other two happened.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: It's like the only thing they comment on is the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: first movie.
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: So this really is sort of a straight sequel, just
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: revisiting it years later and then kind of commenting on...
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: how ridiculous these ideas were, and then how much more
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: ridiculous as a society we are now when not only
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: are we recreating dinosaurs, but we're going to genetically engineer
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: an even more deadly, vicious, giant dinosaur.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: That whole thing, one of my friends was pointing all
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: of this out too. Okay, so we're going to create
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: a bigger, scarier, crazier dinosaur. Even the guy who is
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: running all of this has no idea what is going
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: on with this dinosaur. And then they're just like, oh,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: we use DNA from this, this, and this. But we
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: have no idea what it does. You know what I mean?
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: That all sounds pretty legit, actually. It sounds like something
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: our government would play.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Let's try this out.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: But it wasn't government funded is the thing.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: It wasn't government. But again, as a way to turn
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: this into a weapon for the military. Which is kind
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: of how the plot goes.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: It is until it doesn't anymore. All of a sudden
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: it's just done.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Cause lots of people die. Yes.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: There's lots of dead. Um, but I don't know. It's just, uh,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: it was hard for me. It was a hard pill
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: for me to swallow. Like a lot of it was,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 23:35
  Speaker 11: I don't know.
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: I think I didn't have giant expectations going in, so
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: the fact that it delivered, at least on the fun
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: dinosaur attacking people aspect, I was okay with, and I
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: was like, I kind of was afraid there was going
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: to be, you know, not a ton of character development,
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: so I just went in expecting.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: That and was hoping to have fun, and I did
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: have fun. I liked it. I don't love it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: I think it's got a lot of problems, but I
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: like it just because of the general dinosaur attack fun
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: that They seemed like that's more what they were interested
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: in doing.
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, that was pretty fun.
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: It is.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: The pterodactyls just taking people out was pretty great. And
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: then the poor babysitter. I mean, the poor, poor babysitter.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: They just played with her until that big old thing
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: came up and chomped her.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: What are you going to do?
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: It was pretty fun.
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: But, yeah.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: If I'm going to go watch one of those dinosaur
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: movies again, it's probably going to be the first one.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: I mean, again, that's the classic one of the bunch
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: that I still feel like holds up.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: As a movie.
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: But when it comes up, you know, pops up on streaming,
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: am I going to watch Jurassic World again? Yeah, I'll
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: definitely watch it again. I want to re-watch it for
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: the other aspect there. And just because I want to
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: see more dinosaur attack fun. I don't know.
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: I mean, I.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: It may come across the screen again, but I don't
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: know that I'll sneak it out. Oh, one advantage I
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: was going to say, another advantage, obviously, that the first
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: one has over Jurassic World is Jeff Goldblum. I mean,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Many people out there have a thing for Jeff Goldblum.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. He's a weirdo, but
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: it's Jeff Goldblum. I mean, you know. Jurassic World?
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: You get B.D.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Wong, what more do you want?
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, I don't know. I wasn't super thrilled with
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Jurassic World, but.
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what you're going to do. Dinosaur
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: attack fun.
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: Do we want to go wander around this and see
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: if anybody's getting attacked by any CG creatures?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that probably might not be a bad idea.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: See if, you know, Blue's around to kind of keep
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: everybody in check.
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Let's go wander around.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: Blue, you're my boy!
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: Blue!
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• 27:00
  Speaker 8: And now let's talk with director, producer, screenwriter, and special
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: effects creator, Robert Kurtzman.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Alright, so are you originally Crestline, Ohio?
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I grew up in Crestline, yeah.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: Looking, just trying to figure out where it was placed,
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: it's kind of out in the middle of nowhere to
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: have ended up in Hollywood. So did you plan, like
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: when you were a kid, were you already interested in
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: movies and thinking that far ahead?
• 27:31
  Speaker 11: No, it was more into art. I wanted to get
• 27:36
  Speaker 11: out of high school, go to art school, which I did.
• 27:38
  Speaker 11: I went to Columbus College of Art and Design for
• 27:40
  Speaker 11: a year. before I decided to drop out and move
• 27:43
  Speaker 11: to Hollywood.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: We do a lot of art shows. I deal with
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of artists.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: It's funny how much I respond to self-taught artists and
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: how much going to school for art seems like a
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: very strange idea to me. I mean, you can get
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: some basics, but I feel like so many artists kind
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: of bring their own thing to it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: So it seems like you found the same thing.
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and I mean, this is 30 years ago, and
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: there wasn't a lot of schools available for teaching art.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: What do you call it? Makeup effects.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: Now there's plenty of them.
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: I mean, I did go to a makeup course when
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: I moved to L.A. I took a 12-week makeup course.
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: Most of it was beauty makeup and very little effects stuff.
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: So I kind of... Once I got out of that,
• 28:25
  Speaker 11: I ended up working around town, different shops, and learning
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: from the artists that I came up in the business with.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: So early on, I guess, was it like Night of
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: the Creeps was the first one?
• 28:38
  Speaker 10: No.
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: Actually, I started working on the.
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: Empire Pictures movies at the time Charlie banned and so
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: it was like Troll.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: That's an even better lineup there.
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: Troll was my first film that I had to work on.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Is this before he started going to Europe for everything?
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: No, we ended up going there. Romania? Yeah, I went
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: over there on From Beyond.
• 28:56
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: You know, so yeah, he had that studio over there
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: for a while.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: Well then, I don't know, that was one of those
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: just kind of hitting some of those early ones. I mean,
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: Night of the Creeps has become very iconic for horror fans.
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: I guess, what was that shoot like and then As
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: far as doing effects, I guess you were in charge
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: of space slugs?
• 29:14
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, Dave Miller was the key guy on
• 29:16
  Speaker 11: the show. Prior to that, I was working with John
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: Buechler on those films over there, The Troll and The
• 29:22
  Speaker 11: Eliminators and Terror Vision and all that, and got the
• 29:26
  Speaker 11: chance to work with Dave and the whole thing with
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: that and Fred Decker, which Fred's a great guy.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, we've talked to him. He's awesome.
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: Fred, you know, we ended up playing the frat guys
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: in the movie because it made sense that we had
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: access to ourselves to make the effects on to.
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: Do the heads and everything.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: You're going to be there all day anyway.
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: And we were the right age.
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: So Fred's like, yeah, you guys play to help get
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: a jump on everything. It won't be wasting time trying
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: to cast these parts.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: And so we all got to be in the movie,
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: which was awesome.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Fred's an awesome guy.
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: And seems very laid back about it, but kind of
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: knows what he wants and what he was going for
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: on all that stuff. And then another, like Evil Dead
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: 2 is so iconic at this point.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: That seems like.
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: That first one, well, that one with the more budget
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: to work with, so they did bigger effects and stuff, what?
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: I guess what did they try to do that was
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: taking it up a few notches from that first one?
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: Well, just the overall amount of effects and, of course,
• 30:31
  Speaker 11: the crazier creatures.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: And, you know, it was a little more wacky and
• 30:35
  Speaker 11: there was a lot more stuff. So, yeah, it was
• 30:38
  Speaker 11: like they were working with a bigger budget, Sam and
• 30:41
  Speaker 11: Rob and Bruce. And so they kind of pulled all
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: the stops out, which was fun for us because it
• 30:46
  Speaker 11: was so much stuff to do.
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: It was fun.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: There were a few others I was just kind of
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: going to throw out and see if there were weird
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: stories or something that went along with it, like Misery.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Were you there for the leg effect?
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Because that's the money shot in Misery.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: We did the leg effects and then also did the,
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: I sculpted the broken leg appliances that James Caan wears
• 31:08
  Speaker 11: after the car accident.
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: And then he heals, of course, and then she breaks
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: it again. Of course.
• 31:13
  Speaker 11: But yeah, we did that and we got to work
• 31:14
  Speaker 11: with Kathy Bates and she was awesome and She's a
• 31:18
  Speaker 11: big horror fan and actually stayed with Sam Raimi when
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: they first moved to L.A., so there's some old stories there.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: It was kind of fun.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Hanging out with Kathy Bates.
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: Then, like, Nightmare 5, is that the first time you
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: got to work with Robert Englund?
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: No, I did Nightmare 3 for Mark Sjostrom doing effects.
• 31:41
  Speaker 11: You know, Kevin Yeager was doing the Freddy makeup, and
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: then Um, and then after that I did, uh, um, nine, seven,
• 31:46
  Speaker 11: six evil with Robert. I was the onset guy applying
• 31:49
  Speaker 11: all the makeup. So, um, and then, you know, after
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: years and years after that, we've always managed to kind
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: of work together.
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: You've gotten very used to his face now and he
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: curses at you as you keep putting more appliances on
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: his face.
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: Stop talking so I can glue this down. No, it's not.
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: He's a great guy and awesome in the makeup.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: So, I always loved people under the stairs. I can
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: only assume that had some sort, I mean, just that
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: set alone. So I don't know what, as far as
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: how many different things you had to deal with and
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: how many different like stunts and weird effects to work
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: in there.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:25
  Speaker 11: It was mainly the people under their makeups, uh, every day. And, uh,
• 32:29
  Speaker 11: of course we had the, the Ving Rhames body we
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: had to make. So Ving had to come up to
• 32:33
  Speaker 11: the studio and we had to cast him, you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 11: laying in that upside down position, which was a little weird, but, uh, uh,
• 32:41
  Speaker 11: Once again, working with Wes over the years was a
• 32:44
  Speaker 11: great learning experience as well.
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you've worked with him and for him, and I
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: guess he's become some sort of mentor.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: In several capacities, I would assume.
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: Getting into a different direction than working on Pulp Fiction,
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: so is that away from the horror a little bit,
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: but then sort of building those.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Friendships that you're going to use later.
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: Yeah, there wasn't a tremendous amount of stuff, but, you know,
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: it was integral to the movie, you know. Same with
• 33:11
  Speaker 11: Reservoir Dogs. It was really just blood and the ear gag.
• 33:15
  Speaker 11: Tons of blood. And then same thing on Pulp, but,
• 33:19
  Speaker 11: you know, there's some really good sequences.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Like the syringe?
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: The syringe and the.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Marvin's head.
• 33:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Marvin's head exploding in the car. So, you know,
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: and there was a few other things that we did that...
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: You know, we're used almost as ratings, sacrifices, you know.
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: So at the end of the movie when he's gutting
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: the guys with the samurai and things.
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: You know, so.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's extra good stuff worked in there.
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: And then that also, I mean, I guess, what is
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: it coming in contact with Quentin that early on? And
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: then especially when you kind of gave him a story
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: to then turn into a movie. So that was from
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: where From Better Sold On came from.
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, you know, it's kind of the lore,
• 34:00
  Speaker 11: but yeah, Quentin had... He was trying to get Reservoir
• 34:03
  Speaker 11: off the ground, and at that time I hired him
• 34:06
  Speaker 11: to write the script for Dusk. And so it kind
• 34:09
  Speaker 11: of was like, okay, well, that's fine. Can you do
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: the effects on Reservoir when it goes? And then, you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: it just chain-reacted from there. KMB's been doing his movies
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: ever since, and so it's been a long relationship there.
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: It's great.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we just talked to Monty Hellman recently.
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: And he was originally supposed to be the Reservoir Dogs
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: director back when he was just trying to sell it
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: as a screenplay. And hearing how his, you know, trying
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: to figure out how different his would have been from
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: what Quentin ended up with. So then I guess, what
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: was the situation where you're like, I've got this story,
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: I've got this idea of like action and horror kind
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: of mixed together and trying to hand it off to him?
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Was he... interested in initially, or how did it come about?
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: Yeah, no, he read the short story, you know, the
• 34:56
  Speaker 11: treatment I did, and was very interested, and he instantly,
• 35:00
  Speaker 11: you know, keyed into the elements, which was, it was
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: a height, kind of a, you know, guys on the
• 35:05
  Speaker 11: lamb heist thing, kind of a getaway meets, you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: vampires thing, so he instantly, you know, zeroed in on that,
• 35:13
  Speaker 11: and really had fun with, obviously, with the dialogue.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: So, It does take that hard turn.
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: Was that always in your original treatment, the fact that
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: midway in it just becomes.
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: An entire new movie? Yeah, pretty much. In his screenplay,
• 35:28
  Speaker 11: it's extended a little bit more because in the treatment,
• 35:30
  Speaker 11: they're on the road and boom, they're at the Titty Twister.
• 35:37
  Speaker 11: And then the hotel sequence got put in to beef
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: up the opening half of the movie. But the weird
• 35:44
  Speaker 11: part about it was that structure also... inhibited us getting
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: the movie made for 10 years so.
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: I think it confused people like now there's that you
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: know tarantino fan base and horror families but i think
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: like regular people going in are just like completely caught
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: off guard especially when it hit like it seemed like
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: that that when it opened it was really hard to market.
• 36:06
  Speaker 11: And everybody turned the script down for years and years
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: even after quentin had success yeah reservoir and pulp and
• 36:13
  Speaker 11: uh they would just you know read it and go
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: i don't know not to mention you have the chet
• 36:18
  Speaker 11: pussy speech so and that was like.
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: What the hell the whole reason he wrote the screenplay
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: wait can i make him oh yeah i can make
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: him say.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: All these that's fine.
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: Well then again another iconic one and back with wes
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: scream i mean is that all knife work for you
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: i mean it's mostly just kind of knife tricks and
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: lots of blood.
• 36:37
  Speaker 11: We had uh drew's body at the opening and then
• 36:40
  Speaker 11: her you know got a boyfriend in the swimming pool
• 36:42
  Speaker 11: and Yeah, and then there's the bullet stuff and the
• 36:44
  Speaker 11: knife gags.
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: And all that.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: All the stuff at the end, yeah.
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: I mean, the first film was a little less, you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 11: gory than the rest of them.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:52
  Speaker 11: You know, it got a little crazier with slit throats
• 36:55
  Speaker 11: and everything after that, but.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: By the end, though, they're soaked in blood. That whole
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: party scene, everybody's soaked in blood.
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: But, I mean, now it's funny how different that movie is,
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: and I always feel like it's sort of that, like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: watershed in horror.
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: It's like.
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: made that self-referential thing happen and made things very meta
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: and self-aware. Did it feel like it was something different
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: at the time, or was it just another slasher that
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: Wes was doing?
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: You know, to be honest, we read the script and
• 37:25
  Speaker 11: weren't sure. We were like, okay, this is kind of...
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: For us, it was kind of riffing on everything that
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: we grew up on, so we weren't sure how it
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: was going to work, you know? I was like, well,
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: I've kind of seen this before, but, you know, the
• 37:38
  Speaker 11: way they handled it and the way Wes handled it
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: and Kevin, of course, you know, they... they pulled it
• 37:43
  Speaker 11: off and it was something new and different for a
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: new generation of people.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: So definitely.
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: It's even, yeah, that writing is just very different. And
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: now you see everybody else, including him trying to replicate.
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: It over and over again.
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: But yeah, at the time it was just so different
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: than what we'd seen in horror before. Uh, again, a
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: hard left turn. I just saw bad boys too. That
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: seems like there's gotta be a story.
• 38:07
  Speaker 11: No, it was just, I mean, we were just brought
• 38:09
  Speaker 11: on to handle all the body effects and stuff. And,
• 38:13
  Speaker 11: um and shot that in florida of course in miami
• 38:16
  Speaker 11: and uh it was hot as hell uh but it
• 38:19
  Speaker 11: was fun i was down there doing all the um
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: the stunt work when they were the bodies were coming
• 38:23
  Speaker 11: out of the vans so we had them on like
• 38:25
  Speaker 11: um these you know pneumatic drawers that would come in
• 38:28
  Speaker 11: and out as they're driving around in the van um
• 38:31
  Speaker 11: and then wrecking it of course and running over the
• 38:33
  Speaker 11: head and it flopping out and all that.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Just a few car crashes in that movie.
• 38:37
  Speaker 11: And that was pretty funny because that that uh The
• 38:39
  Speaker 11: head gag when they run over the head was just
• 38:42
  Speaker 11: a simple gag. Mike Deke, who worked at K &
• 38:44
  Speaker 11: B at the time, me and him were down there,
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: and it was literally a pull it on a string deal,
• 38:50
  Speaker 11: a wire hook to the head, and it was a
• 38:52
  Speaker 11: timing thing.
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: Worked a first take. It was weird. Thank God it did,
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: because Michael would have been, you know.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: That was my other thing.
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: Working for a pretty infamous director at this point, I
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: don't know.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: How was he?
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: That was still, I mean, it was kind of midway
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: in the run. He was certainly the big name at
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: the time, but.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's so many stories now. How is
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: he to work on his set?
• 39:13
  Speaker 11: He's intense, of course. But it's amazing because he really
• 39:18
  Speaker 11: moves his set. He comes in and it's like, camera here,
• 39:22
  Speaker 11: camera there, 50 cameras, and boom. What was amazing and
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: great on that show to watch a crew of that
• 39:30
  Speaker 11: size having to motivate like a move from one location
• 39:34
  Speaker 11: to another on the same day. Like one day we'd
• 39:37
  Speaker 11: be shooting one section of car wreck, you know, and stunts.
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: And then within a half an hour they're moving the
• 39:43
  Speaker 11: entire thing. five blocks away to shoot the train sequence.
• 39:47
  Speaker 11: And they were just running and gunning, and it was
• 39:49
  Speaker 11: amazing to watch because it's not boring at all on
• 39:52
  Speaker 11: a Michael Bay film.
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: That's got to be weird for you, too, coming from
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: sitting in a cabin or a room somewhere doing blood
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: effects to now being out on a highway and helicopter
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: shots and stunt work and cars crashing.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: That's the fun part, though. I love action movies, so
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: I love watching that stuff.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: Then just another newer one, It Follows, has gotten such
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: a great response and is another one of those that's
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: sort of redefining the genre.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, what did they bring you guys
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: in to do?
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: We came in, we had a couple of gags in
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: the movie, but mainly it was just.
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: A look of the dead or, you know, the entities,
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 40:32
  Speaker 11: And it wasn't a huge, complicated film. It was a
• 40:35
  Speaker 11: really small film that we were lucky enough to get
• 40:38
  Speaker 11: involved with. You know, it was a little independent thing.
• 40:40
  Speaker 11: And we liked the script. and I thought it was
• 40:43
  Speaker 11: something new and different, so.
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: You, over the years, worked your way into directing. Do
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: you take to directing? Is it something you enjoy doing
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: the same as the effects, or is it, what's the
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: process like for you?
• 40:57
  Speaker 11: No, I love directing, and so it's probably, it's my
• 41:01
  Speaker 11: favorite thing to do, obviously, but.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: My first love is the effects.
• 41:06
  Speaker 11: You know, and I, you know, as I, it's, I'll
• 41:11
  Speaker 11: find a project and then it'll take years to get
• 41:13
  Speaker 11: it off the ground. So in between, I still do
• 41:16
  Speaker 11: this because I like to be creative and be on
• 41:18
  Speaker 11: a film set and work with directors and creative people.
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I was looking at the list. There's
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: so many projects going. How much overlap do you have
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: or what kind of schedule? How tight is that schedule
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: of working from one project to the next?
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: It depends.
• 41:34
  Speaker 11: Sometimes there's nothing going on for months. And then suddenly
• 41:40
  Speaker 11: you're doing four projects at the same time. Luckily, I
• 41:43
  Speaker 11: have a great crew that works with us, and we
• 41:46
  Speaker 11: have to juggle it. The worst is when you have
• 41:48
  Speaker 11: set work going at the same time. And then you're
• 41:51
  Speaker 11: juggling from one location.
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: If it shoots, one's out of state, one's in state.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Well, and then are you back in Ohio?
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I thought you set up a production company based out
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: of Ohio now.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, my studio's in Ohio now.
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: So that's, I mean, that's, are you working to get
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: most of the work based out of there? Because I
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: know it's so hard running an entertainment show 2,000 miles
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: from Hollywood, let alone your own studio and effects company.
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: So how much is it you're trying to do everything
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: based directly out of there or bringing stuff in?
• 42:22
  Speaker 11: No, we build everything there and then we go to
• 42:24
  Speaker 11: wherever the shoot is. So like when we did Tusk,
• 42:27
  Speaker 11: we built everything there and then shot North Carolina. um
• 42:31
  Speaker 11: we've built stuff and then shot in louisiana or shot
• 42:34
  Speaker 11: in new mexico and uh even india we've built stuff
• 42:37
  Speaker 11: and gone to india but um it's uh it's not
• 42:41
  Speaker 11: you know it's a little different now because so many
• 42:43
  Speaker 11: productions are shooting in uh states to have tax incentive
• 42:46
  Speaker 11: packages that's that's.
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: The game now where do we put it right we
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: just got one past year so you might be back
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: here soon.
• 42:52
  Speaker 11: And ohio's been you know uh last few years has
• 42:55
  Speaker 11: been building there so yeah that's.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: That's good Nothing else.
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: You've got so many things in the works. What is
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: the next thing you want to tell people about?
• 43:06
  Speaker 11: Well, we just did a really fun movie with Robert
• 43:08
  Speaker 11: Englund in it as well. It's called Funhouse Massacre. So
• 43:13
  Speaker 11: if you get a chance, there's a couple little things
• 43:14
  Speaker 11: they put up online.
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: Actually, it's funny.
• 43:17
  Speaker 11: It's my daughter has a bit part in it, and
• 43:21
  Speaker 11: she's running down an alley and gets hit in the
• 43:23
  Speaker 11: head with a severed head, and it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: Knocks her out.
• 43:25
  Speaker 11: And they said, heads up, you know. And so that's
• 43:30
  Speaker 11: out on the Internet right now. And I thought it
• 43:32
  Speaker 11: just came out yesterday. I was, like, texting her going,
• 43:34
  Speaker 11: check it out, you're getting hit in the head over.
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: And over again.
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: That's what I was wondering was, again, starting when you did,
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: I mean, the effects going back far enough, like, you know,
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: 70s and before was all just kind of theatrical more
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: or less, just vamped up a little bit.
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 43:50
  Speaker 8: In this last from the eighties, it takes on a
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: whole new art form and becomes, and then working into
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: the digital age in the two thousands, you've kind of
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: seen it go through all of these, how much has
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: it affected you, I guess, career wise. And then what's
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: your take on it personally, as far as the art,
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: both of them being kind of an art form, as
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: much as we want to talk bad about CG being right.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Practical effects lovers, you know, there's a.
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: Place for it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 11: I mean, there is, I feel like, uh, you know, I,
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: I like a good mix of, of practical and digital, but, um,
• 44:19
  Speaker 11: you know, as much practical as you can get away with.
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: But, um, the, you know, it's changed.
• 44:25
  Speaker 11: I was lucky enough to get in the business in
• 44:27
  Speaker 11: the eighties at the height of the boom where every,
• 44:31
  Speaker 11: everybody wanted to do a monster movie.
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: With creature effects and stuff.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:35
  Speaker 11: And, uh, and then over the years, I mean, what,
• 44:37
  Speaker 11: You know, once Jurassic came out, we thought we were
• 44:39
  Speaker 11: doomed after Jurassic came out.
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: That's what I've heard.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Everybody that works in the industry is like, oh, God.
• 44:45
  Speaker 11: And then, you know, it did and it didn't. You know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 11: it's kind of gone to that place and then now
• 44:51
  Speaker 11: it's going back to a mix.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: But, I mean, as a filmmaker, I.
• 44:54
  Speaker 11: Love having the ability to take advantage of digital techniques
• 44:58
  Speaker 11: to make things. There's definitely a safety issue thing that
• 45:02
  Speaker 11: is great about having CG. You don't have to have
• 45:05
  Speaker 11: a guy drop off a skyscraper. You don't have to
• 45:10
  Speaker 11: do certain stunt things digitally and kill someone doing it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: And bullet hits and stuff like that.
• 45:16
  Speaker 11: I mean, you could do the old style, pull the
• 45:20
  Speaker 11: button and blood rig off of someone's head or a
• 45:23
  Speaker 11: squib on their head. And then if it doesn't go
• 45:26
  Speaker 11: off timing-wise right, then you're wasting hours.
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: And hours and hours of reset.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Doing everything, yeah.
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: So there's a place for it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Sometimes those are the worst, I feel like.
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: The simple, like, bullet effects or blood splatters, like, sometimes
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: those are the worst CG.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: So that I'm almost leaning towards sticking with.
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: But, I mean, you know, Walking Dead does it really well.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, again, it.
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: Feels like he does practical first and adds some kind
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: of accents here and there with the CG. So, yeah,
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: it's hard to tell with them because they kind of
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: know how to do it right, but. So, yeah, I
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: was just wondering how that went. But I think that's
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: about it, unless you need to pass along any other
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: stuff coming up?
• 46:03
  Speaker 11: No, we got some stuff coming up this fall, but
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: I can't really talk about it right now.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: That's usually how that goes. Any website or anything you
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: need to tell people.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: To go to?
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: Yeah, if you want to check out our work, go
• 46:13
  Speaker 11: to creaturecore.net, C-O-R-P-S dot net, and check out our reels,
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: and we got some of our little behind-the-scenes videos and.
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: Stuff on there, so.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: All right, definitely. Thank you for talking to us, man.
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  Speaker 1: Alright, so we're back and now we're here with... Misty!
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Misty has joined the festivities. How's it going, Misty?
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  Speaker 9: People keep wanting to talk to me. Like, a lot.
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: That happens. They keep wanting me to read their books,
• 48:15
  Speaker 9: but get not one of them is a pop-up book?
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: There really is an oversight on all of the authors
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: in the world's part.
• 48:21
  Speaker 9: Oh my god.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Just saying.
• 48:25
  Speaker 9: Do they not know their fan base, which is me?
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Pop-up books. It's just you.
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: It is just me.
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: I'm okay with it.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like them a little bit, but even
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I don't buy them.
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: Me and Lance Henriksen.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: Lance Henriksen was pretty excited when you questioned him for
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: not writing a pop-up book.
• 48:40
  Speaker 9: I would read that shit if he wrote it. Why
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: isn't there like an alien pop-up book?
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: There should be. Anything that involves chest bursters, why is
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: there not.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: A pop-up book?
• 48:49
  Speaker 9: With the mouth that comes out, that's like prime for
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: a pop-up book.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Just like the entire scene with John Hurt. Why is
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that not a full page?
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: Or the egg in the face burster bust out. Why
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: is this not happening?
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: Right now, kickstart. People, start writing in. Just kickstart it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: Send us your money. We will get it going.
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: Or go buy sandwiches.
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: We know like 400 artists that could do this kind
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: of thing. So let's get it going right now.
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: I bought some stuff.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: You do like stuff.
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: I bought some stuff. Supernatural blind box figures. Did not
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: get the one that I wanted. I bought five boxes.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: You got like three that you really wanted otherwise though.
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: I mean Bobby's okay. I would have preferred to get Dean.
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: But I got Bobby Sam.
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: Cass.
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: That one chick whose name I forgot with the red hair.
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: And what else did I get? The guy with the
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: frying pan.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: You know, the guy with the frying pan.
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, the Asian guy.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, exactly.
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: He was the prophet.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I have not watched it since, like, season one.
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: Not the prophet Chuck, the other prophet. We saw Carrie
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: Fisher wandering about. She is a tiny little old lady.
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: She is very, I mean, we always kind of knew that,
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: you know, especially compared to the rest of the cast,
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: that everybody looked short next to Peter May, but.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: She's really not a tall woman.
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: She had shiny shoes. They were bedazzled.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she had glitter shoes.
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: It was pretty awesome. I would hang out with Carrie.
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: She seems like she's got a hell of a lot
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: of stories that I would enjoy hearing.
• 50:21
  Speaker 9: We've seen a lot of people in costumes today. More
• 50:23
  Speaker 9: than the typical convention that we normally go to.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Again, I blame our town.
• 50:29
  Speaker 9: I can't tell if that guy's in a costume or
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: if that's just the way he dresses.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of people.
• 50:33
  Speaker 9: The guy in the white shirt. With the half suspender?
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: That might....
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I really don't know. I really don't know. You play
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: that game all day, too. Like, what do they do? Oh, see,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: that was one of those.
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: They came through the main room, and I was like,
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: I only saw them from, like, the waist up, and
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: I was trying to figure out what their costume was.
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: And then they came around the corner, and they were
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: holding a mop, and they were part of the janitorial staff.
• 50:57
  Speaker 9: Nice.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: And I was like, that's not a costume. That's their uniform.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Aw.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: That sucks for them. They've got to clean up after
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: these animals.
• 51:04
  Speaker 9: A lot of people in outfits they should not have
• 51:05
  Speaker 9: been wearing. I'm not sure if it's good or bad,
• 51:07
  Speaker 9: but we've seen a lot more Superman and Wonder Woman
• 51:09
  Speaker 9: costumes than I remember ever seeing.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: There's a good amount of Superman at least, yeah. There's
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: a couple Superman and Wonder Woman combos going around together.
• 51:18
  Speaker 9: There's quite a few of those. Quite a lot of
• 51:21
  Speaker 9: those are questionable too. There have been quite a few
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: decent ones, but a lot of them I'm like, hmm.
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: What's going on here?
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: How about Jokers? You like the Jokers?
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: I am not happy with the Jokers because Is it
• 51:31
  Speaker 9: that hard to put on white makeup?
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: I think it takes layering, and not everybody understands that.
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: Because one layer will wear off and fade really, really fast.
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: It's splotchy.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: It's extra splotchy.
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: That's why it's like you almost have to do one
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: and let it actually dry, and then go in for
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: another coat. Because otherwise, you can kind of see through it.
• 51:52
  Speaker 8: But not everybody comes to that conclusion.
• 51:55
  Speaker 9: I guess so. I don't get it.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: And now let's talk with actor and martial artist Ernie
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Rees Jr.
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: So I guess usually I try to figure out how
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: people got into the business or what their interests were
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: as a kid, but I'm assuming you were kind of
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: born into the business.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Well, yes and no. My dad.
• 52:25
  Speaker 10: Has been a lifelong martial artist and had a martial
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: arts school pretty much around the time that I was born.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: And so I was born into that.
• 52:37
  Speaker 10: And, you know, we traveled all over the country and
• 52:41
  Speaker 10: competed in martial arts tournaments and did martial arts demonstration
• 52:45
  Speaker 10: and eventually led to Hollywood. But if it wasn't for
• 52:50
  Speaker 10: my martial arts, I would have never made it into
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: the entertainment business, films and television.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: So I was born into the world of martial arts.
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: I wasn't necessarily born in the world of you know
• 53:01
  Speaker 10: entertainment but that's where it led me so.
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah i'm sure he wanted you to do martial arts
• 53:05
  Speaker 8: did he want you to get into the entertainment business
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: your father uh.
• 53:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah i mean i think everybody that did martial arts
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: at least that i knew all across america if you
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: started doing martial arts in the 60s and the 70s
• 53:23
  Speaker 10: um you wanted to be like bruce lee and bruce
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: lee set a blueprint uh being in movies and he
• 53:30
  Speaker 10: was a filmmaker though. And he, you know, and he
• 53:33
  Speaker 10: wrote and he directed and he choreographed fight scenes.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: And that's what we did.
• 53:36
  Speaker 10: We, you know, we choreographed fight scenes and we came
• 53:40
  Speaker 10: up with skits and, and, you know, we all wanted
• 53:43
  Speaker 10: to get to where Bruce Lee got. Uh, but he
• 53:46
  Speaker 10: was a tremendous motivate, motivating factor for me in terms
• 53:51
  Speaker 10: of as a young boy, the intensity in which I
• 53:53
  Speaker 10: would train. I mean, I took it very seriously, um,
• 53:57
  Speaker 10: and still do, but, um, It was because of people
• 54:00
  Speaker 10: like that that people aspired to want to make it
• 54:04
  Speaker 10: into films and television. And we, you know, at least myself,
• 54:09
  Speaker 10: and I know my dad is a Bruce Lee fan too.
• 54:11
  Speaker 10: I'm like kind of a fanatic, but, you know, he
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: was somebody that inspired everyone.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I think that legacy still holds up.
• 54:19
  Speaker 8: I think there are people still getting involved in martial
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: arts and probably acting because of Bruce Lee.
• 54:25
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah. I mean, and he's a rare combination because
• 54:29
  Speaker 10: he's not only a martial artist, and there are a
• 54:30
  Speaker 10: lot of great martial artists and maybe even better martial
• 54:34
  Speaker 10: artists than Bruce Lee, but the combination of that and
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: being a filmmaker is a very kind of rare quality. And,
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: you know, when your friends are Steve McQueen and, you know,
• 54:46
  Speaker 10: James Coburn, you know, people like that probably has an
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: influence on you as well.
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: You must be doing something right in the business at
• 54:54
  Speaker 8: that point, so. Well, getting into movies, how did you
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: get involved in The Last Dragon?
• 55:01
  Speaker 10: You know, my manager at the time knew some Motown
• 55:06
  Speaker 10: executives and introduced me to them. And they only.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Had about three weeks left of filming.
• 55:14
  Speaker 10: And my dad and his demonstration team, the West Coast
• 55:19
  Speaker 10: Demo team and myself were brought in.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: We performed for Barry Gordy.
• 55:25
  Speaker 10: Onset of Seventh Heaven and they wrote me into the
• 55:30
  Speaker 10: script and wrote my dad and the demonstration team and
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: the fight scene, you know, in the nightclub, kind of
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: all wrote that together based upon our demonstration and that
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: was awesome.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: What was Berg like?
• 55:46
  Speaker 10: He was, I mean, he was really the one who
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: was responsible for the starting of my career. I mean, I,
• 55:52
  Speaker 10: you know, I can't say anything other than I'm lucky,
• 55:57
  Speaker 10: you know? I mean, he found people like, you know,
• 56:00
  Speaker 10: Michael Jackson and Diana Ross and Stevie. I mean, it
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: goes on and on and on, you know? And so,
• 56:08
  Speaker 10: you know, for him to... Because they were... He was
• 56:11
  Speaker 10: essentially responsible for The Last Dragon, which eventually rolled out
• 56:15
  Speaker 10: into Motown, developing with Disney The Last Electric Knight.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Sidekicks, that was a Motown... thing.
• 56:23
  Speaker 10: So, um, I mean, he, he was really kind of,
• 56:29
  Speaker 10: you know, the lucky break that you were looking for,
• 56:33
  Speaker 10: you know, when you're training in San Jose, California, far
• 56:37
  Speaker 10: away from Hollywood or movies or TV, and you're just
• 56:40
  Speaker 10: in your dad's small little school, you know, training.
• 56:45
  Speaker 8: So around the time you also end up in Red Sonja,
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: how is.
• 56:50
  Speaker 10: That, uh, that was just, uh, auditions. I, that was
• 56:54
  Speaker 10: one of the, I was one of the roles that I,
• 56:56
  Speaker 10: the only, one of the only roles that I've ever, like,
• 56:59
  Speaker 10: auditioned for and gotten, uh, and, uh, got to, you know, to,
• 57:04
  Speaker 10: to work, I don't know, that was the time of
• 57:06
  Speaker 10: my life, actually. Got to work with Dino De Laurentiis, and,
• 57:10
  Speaker 10: you know, that's who I auditioned for multiple times, and flew,
• 57:14
  Speaker 10: lived in Italy for, like, six months making that movie
• 57:17
  Speaker 10: with Arnold Schwarzenegger, riding horses, and, like, You know, I mean, yeah.
• 57:25
  Speaker 10: Surviving earthquakes together. I mean, like, it's pretty cool.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Richard Fleischer is a pretty epic director. How was he
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: to work with? You know, he was amazing. I mean,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: you know, he is an epic director.
• 57:37
  Speaker 10: And what was most cool about it for me is, like,
• 57:40
  Speaker 10: the perfect, it's like it fit into, you know, the
• 57:45
  Speaker 10: entire landscape of being, you know, 12 years old, basically,
• 57:48
  Speaker 10: working with Richard Fleischer. on an epic movie with these
• 57:54
  Speaker 10: epic sets that were, like, really epic sets. A giant monster.
• 57:59
  Speaker 10: I mean, you know, a water scene, you know. I mean,
• 58:05
  Speaker 10: it was awesome. And, you know, Bridget Nielsen, you know,
• 58:09
  Speaker 10: at 19.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: That was pretty epic, too. To say the least. So, yeah,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I guess at.
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: That point, yeah, you're a that's something I was kind
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: of wondering too, because you got pretty successful during that
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: run and you're, you're still a kid. A lot of
• 58:27
  Speaker 8: kid actors have problems. Were you tempted by all that
• 58:30
  Speaker 8: life going on?
• 58:31
  Speaker 10: Oh, I mean, at that point I was, I was
• 58:33
  Speaker 10: a little kid, you know, um, yeah, but that was, yeah,
• 58:38
  Speaker 10: I mean, that was, that, that kind of, that was.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Much kind of later for me.
• 58:45
  Speaker 10: Um, you know, um, not, not, not, eight ten twelve
• 58:50
  Speaker 10: years old you know but you know uh the the
• 58:55
  Speaker 10: life of you know being an actor as a kid
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: and working yeah that is a uh no one can
• 59:02
  Speaker 10: understand what that's like until unless you've done that and
• 59:06
  Speaker 10: there's only you know handfuls of people that have kind
• 59:10
  Speaker 10: of lived that life and uh even less that have
• 59:14
  Speaker 10: kind of survived it so you know i'm pretty lucky
• 59:18
  Speaker 10: you know it definitely comes with its you know bumps
• 59:20
  Speaker 10: and bruises and i definitely you know having grown up
• 59:25
  Speaker 10: in hollywood have gone down every pathway you can possibly imagine.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: But I'm thankful that I'm.
• 59:32
  Speaker 10: Here and, you know, I've survived it and I feel good.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: And, you know, I've got a great family.
• 59:39
  Speaker 10: And, you know, with all my current health challenges, you know,
• 59:45
  Speaker 10: it's kind of things, everything in perspective.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I really can't be anything more than just grateful.
• 59:52
  Speaker 8: Your sister seems pretty awesome. I was watching the videos
• 59:54
  Speaker 8: of her kind of in your corner on this one.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 59:58
  Speaker 10: She's a martial artist. My dad raised her like he
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 10: raised me as a martial artist. So for her, anything
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 10: that she can do, she's going to attack it with
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 10: the martial arts spirit that my dad breeds. So, you know,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 10: it's really, like I said, there's nothing else other than
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 10: for me.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: To be grateful.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: Definitely.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: I still eventually had to get to the Ninja Turtles thing.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: You ended up in the first one doing stunt work.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: I guess at that point, were you familiar with the property?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 8: Because it's a weird concept at that point. Now we're
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: so used to it.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 10: It was definitely a weird concept, but I was aware
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 10: of it because of my younger brother. And for me,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 10: working with Golden Harvest, was really like, I wasn't, I
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 10: didn't even have to think twice about it. I was like,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 10: are you kidding me? Golden Harvest, that's Bruce Lee, that's
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 10: Jackie Chan, that's Jet Li. And really, ultimately, Golden Harvest
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 10: was the one that was responsible for pulling me out
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 10: of the costume and writing in the character. That had
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 10: nothing to do with the Ninja Turtle universe prior to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 10: the movies and prior to Golden Harvest. So it was
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 10: really that. And, you know, I mean, I remember very
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 10: clearly getting the telephone call and, you know, they talked
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 10: about who was you know producing the film and Jim
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 10: Henson and Golden Harvest I mean you can't it doesn't
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 10: matter I'm like absolutely I'm in 100% well.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 8: Then you're working in the suit that first time how
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: hard was that to still be able to do what
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 8: you know you've been doing your whole life but now
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 8: you've got this giant suit on you.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah it was just kind of one more challenge you
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: know what I mean I'm like okay but I'm like,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 10: all I kept thinking about.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Was Bruce Lee. And I'm like, you know, what would
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Bruce Lee do if he was an Ninja Turtle? Whatever
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Bruce Lee wants to do.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 10: So I was just like, you know, keep it going.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 10: And I think that, you know, I think that was,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: you know, I'm proud of those fight scenes for what
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 10: we were able to do.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: It wasn't easy, you know.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: But when you make a movie with Golden Harvest and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 10: the legacy that belongs to them, you do whatever it
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 10: takes to get it done.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: So definitely.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: And then there quickly after that surf ninjas, that was
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: such a run of like the, we were the country
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 8: as a whole was sort of like overrun. Like we
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 8: were so obsessed with, you know, every movie and specifically
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 8: for kids, like you had the, the sidekicks, you know,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 8: movie and then the TV show.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: That you were on. And then, you know, the opposite order.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: And then we came after the show, which is weird.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: That's not usually how it goes.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, because they weren't two totally different things. The
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 10: TV series that I had on ABC that was a
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 10: Motown Disney production was the series created by Motown and Disney,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 10: and the sidekick's movie was Jonathan Rannan and Chuck Norris.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 10: So I always like to say that, you know, ours
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 10: came first.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: They stole from you. Sort of speak.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 8: But even all the other Ninja Turtles and your three
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 8: ninjas and all that stuff hit at the same time.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 8: And it's just kind of wondering what the weird obsession was.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: At the time.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 8: And then to the point that it was becoming so
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: mainstream that they worked Rob Schneider into it.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: So were you stuck with him every day?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: And it felt like it?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 7: No, it was.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, it was just.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 10: Honestly, that time period was just something, you know, unto itself.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 10: The Ninja Turtles, I mean, it went from, you know,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 10: the Ninja Turtles in the first one, then going into that,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: then going right into Surf Ninjas.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: And, yeah, it was like, I mean, I was growing
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: up as well right with it.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 10: So by the time I, you know, got to work
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 10: with Rob and having been a fan, you know, of
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 10: Xerox Man and stuff like that, I was like, man,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 10: this is pretty cool.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: At the time, he was pretty hot, so it was kind.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 7: Of a big deal.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Making copies. And then, to jump.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: Ahead a little, but in the rundown, once again, huge
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 8: personalities to work with there.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Dwayne is pretty impressive in his own right. Oh my god, yeah. Yeah,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: I've been super lucky. When it comes down to it,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I've been super lucky. I've been able to do all these.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 10: you know, amazing things and got to work with some
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 10: amazing people.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: And Dwayne is one of them.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 10: He's a great guy. And it's my favorite fight scene
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: that I've ever done. And I've been doing, you know,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 10: fight scenes for a pretty long time. So, yeah, it's
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 10: pretty cool. You know, Jackie Chan's One of Jackie Chan's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 10: stunt guys, Andy Chang, was second unit director. And, you know,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 10: he kind of brought that flair to it. And working
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: with Pete Berg was awesome because Pete's just awesome. And,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 10: you know, Dwayne was just.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Awesome, man.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: I mean, it was just great. And that's, you know,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: probably my most proud piece of work that I've done
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 10: as far as, like, fight scenes, pure fight scenes is concerned.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Well, and then, again, I had to touch on Crystal Skull.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 8: As much as people have issues with it, that cemetery
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 8: scene is one of my favorites in the whole movie.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Like, I think that part's really cool.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: That was, like, kind of the moment for me out
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 10: of everything that I've ever done. When we were on set, and, like,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 10: award-winning set, like, you know, this was the real thing.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Universal, wind-blowing, lightning.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 10: You know, I'm in the cemetery and Steven Spielberg's up
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 10: there like, while the wind's blowing and giving me the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 10: thumbs up, you know. After some takes and like, that
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 10: was like, I was like, wow, this is pretty much
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 10: everything that I've ever dreamed of, you know.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: That was he to work with.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm assuming at that point he was pretty, pretty, uh,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 8: Set in his ways as a director.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: I mean, there was no riff on my part with
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 10: working with Steven Spielberg. It was just the most amazing
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 10: movie-making experience that I ever had, you know? We had
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 10: choreographed that stuff. I had the pleasure to actually do
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 10: some choreography on a Steven Spielberg film.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Like, that's pretty awesomeness. About as epic as you can
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: get right there. Yeah, pretty much.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 10: And he's giving me the thumbs up, like I said.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 10: It was just awesome, so... Um, but, uh, no, it
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 10: was just, that was, that was a moment. And then
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 10: of course, like Harrison Ford and all that, even, you know,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 10: Shia and like the whole thing was just like.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is cool. Like when I first got the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: phone call, never forget it.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 10: It's like somebody left a message for me and was like, yeah,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 10: Indiana Jones is looking for you. I'm like, okay, that
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 10: might've been the best phone message that I've ever received.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: In my life.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Was Harrison up for much of the fighting at that point,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: or was it a lot of stunt doubles?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 10: No, he definitely took one of those shovels and beat
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: my face in until that mask broke. I was like, ow,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 10: that really hurt, and my nose was all swollen up.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: I was like, dude, it's Indiana Jones. I just got
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 10: smacked in the face with a shovel by Indiana Jones.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 10: And I'm a cemetery warrior to boot.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 8: There's only so many people that have been hit in
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 8: the face by Indiana Jones.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: So that's a special club.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 10: And even less amount of people that have been killed
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: by him with a blow dart.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: That's true. I think it's actually just me. See, that's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: impressive right there.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 8: And you've got your GoFundMe campaign. I didn't know if
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 8: you wanted to tell people about that.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 10: Yeah, my sister started a GoFundMe campaign on her own
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 10: to kind of support you know, some of the challenges
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 10: that we're going through in terms of just everything that
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 10: comes along with having your kidneys fail. And, you know,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 10: I'm kind of on the trajectory to get a transplant. And,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 10: you know, it's just a lot to it. But she
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 10: started it and she's raised a tremendous amount of money
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 10: in a short period of time. And it's really a
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 10: lot of it due to, you know, my fans. So
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 10: I want to thank everybody for having, you know, supported
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 10: me after all these years. Films, television, and even my
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 10: personal stuff. So I appreciate it.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, you've been great.
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• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: I'm going to go donate to it right now, and
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: I'm going to tell everybody else to do the same.
• 1:09:03
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  Speaker 1: Alright, so Misty has just had her first interaction with
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Doug Jones. Misty, are you okay?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 9: There was cuddles involved. He cradled my head to his
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 9: body in like a fashion that I'm not sure if
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 9: it was anybody else that I would be completely comfortable with.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: But because it was Doug Jones, it was delightful.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 8: I mean, you saw the cuddling of my head that happened. Normally,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: you know, heartless bastard that I am, I should have
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 8: a problem with that. But it's Doug, so it's all okay.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 9: And you know how I am about people in general
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 9: touching me, and it usually just never ends well.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: For those of you who are familiar with Misty, anti-social
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: creature that she is, hugged by essentially a stranger.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 9: But it's, that's the thing, I don't think he's ever
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 9: a stranger to anybody.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: That's true, Doug has maybe never met a stranger.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 9: I don't think so either, I think he just, I
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 9: think he loves all.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: He's never met someone who wasn't his friend.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: I mean, immediately, that girl that walked up, they were
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 8: just kind of waiting there, and she was kind of
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: standing there, like, waiting for her, and he was like, hi,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 8: come hug me.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 9: I know it was so strange, but so, like, I can't,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 9: you can't fight it.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: You can't fight the duck.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 9: You just can't, and why would you want to?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: There's not really any reason. You just, you just embrace
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: the embrace. Give yourself to Doug's bosom.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 9: He's a very, very skinny man. There's not a lot
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 9: of bosom there, but it's, it's, it's, it's comfortable.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: It's a good thing he's, Finn because he did make
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: me pick him up last time I saw him.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: It's a good thing. He's all height but no weight
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: to him, really.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 9: He's like five pounds. One of my legs weighs more
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: than he does.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: He may have bird bones, too.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he did get injured today, apparently, from what I heard.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: From hugging.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: He hugged someone in some crazy cosplay costume and it
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 8: stabbed him in the face.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: So, damn you cosplayers. You've injured our beloved Doug.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 9: How could you do that to us?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: It's just uncalled for.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 9: It was a helmet. I was wondering if it was
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 9: a Thor helmet, because they do have sharp points.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Sword and magic helmet.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 7: Oh, man.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: Hey, this is Doug Jones from the Hellboy movies and
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: the Silver Surfer and Pan's Labyrinth and Hocus Pocus, Falling Skies,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 8: and so much more.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: But today, you are listening to Movie Meltdown. So, have
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: you seen anything lately?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: I have.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 9: I've watched Top Gear.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Aside from Top Gear.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 9: Just for you, I actually sat down and watched. I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 9: got caught up on a TV series. I've watched the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: Scream TV series. I'm caught up. It's not done yet.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 9: I think I'm six episodes.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: It's not a spoiler to say Bella Thorne's adorable.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 9: And she dies.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: You've ruined it now.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 9: Happens in the first episode. Happens in like the first
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 9: ten minutes.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: What a Drew Barrymore.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 9: I know, right? She is a Drew Barrymore of the series.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Lame.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 9: I mean, I like it. I mean, I've enjoyed it
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 9: so far. I haven't got pissed off at it. So
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 9: that's always a good thing. I've watched it up to
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 9: this point because I, like most of our generation, I
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 9: DVR'd it up until a certain point, you know. So
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 9: I had like five episodes saved up. I'm like, I'm
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 9: going to watch the hell out of this shit. So
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: I watched it. And you know, it's actually decent when
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 9: you're like, all right, I watched them all. I'll watch
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 9: the next episode. Sort of when it comes on.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: I kind of like keeping up with them as they
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: come out.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 9: That's too much work. I like binging that shit.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: It's the only way I can keep track of it though.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I can keep on top of it.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: I never have 12 spare hours to sit down and
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: not do anything else.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: It's like an hour at a time. I can break
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: it down. I can kind of fit it in there.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 9: I don't remember things. I can't remember when things actually
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 9: come on. It's like five weeks later. What do I have?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 9: It's like a surprise. It's like a treat.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: That is true. I do lose track of like, what
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: the hell was on on Thursday? I don't remember now.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 8: Sometimes I give up on shows because of that. So
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 8: they have to be pretty good if I actually won't
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 8: make a point to remember when they're coming on.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 9: And then I watched a movie. Just last night.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 9: I watched Let Us Pray.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Let us as in? Let us pray.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 7: Heads of lettuce.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 9: No, that would be stupid.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: What if it was about bunnies or something?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: Damn it.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 9: You're ruining my review of this movie. There are no
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: bunnies in this movie whatsoever.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Would it be made better if there were bunnies?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 9: It actually wasn't that bad. I was kind of surprised.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 9: I mean, I'd actually heard some good things about it,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 9: and I watched the trailer, and it was pretty impressive.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 9: And again, it's like, it had nobody in it that
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 9: I know. It's like some foreign-y, it's not like foreign-foreign.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 9: They talk regular, or they have accents. The accents are
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 9: so thick sometimes that I can't understand what the fuck
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 9: they're saying. I don't know if it's Scottish-y, whatever. I
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 9: could probably look it up, but that would involve getting
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 9: my phone out, and that's just way too much work.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 9: I think the main star guy who actually might have
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 9: a name, whose name I don't actually know, he is
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 9: one of the guys from Game of Thrones, I think.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 9: But if anybody out there actually watches that and might care,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: There's a few people that watch that show.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 9: I don't. I've never watched Game of Thrones, and I
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 9: have no real desire to, because I just don't care.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 9: But one of the guys from the show is in
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 9: the movie, so yay.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Which one is this?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, that show. I thought you were talking here.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 9: No, one of the guys from the show, Game of Thrones,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 9: is in the movie Let Us Pray. P-R-E-Y. In case
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 9: you get confused, there's like, pray.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Hmm, alright, that's different. So what is the overall take
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: on this movie?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 9: It's a night in the, what's this half-ass shitty looking
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 9: police station? I've never seen one. It's like some ghetto
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 9: police station in the middle of wherever they are. And
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 9: all these people are getting arrested, and they're there, and
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 9: then there's a guy who shows up, and he's pretty
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 9: much kind of there to make them atone for their
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 9: sins and stuff like that.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 13: Alright.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 9: And there's just, everybody has their secrets and their things
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 9: that they should not have done, and he gets them.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: In a roundabout way.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: No spoilers involved.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 9: I didn't say, like.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Leave it at that. No spoilers.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 9: I mean, I think from the trailer, you pretty much
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: get the basic concept.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: It is kind of horror, right?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 9: But it's not entirely. It's more like a slow build.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 9: Stuff starts happening. You're like, what the hell's going on?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 9: And even at the end, you're like, what? Is that
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: what just happened?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Is this a perplexing movie? Am I going to be confused?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 9: I don't know. I mean, I'm still thinking about it.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 9: I just watched it last night.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Assuming nobody wants to hear about the Descendants.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 9: Go for it. Somebody might want to hear about it.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 9: I just thought it.
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  Speaker 1: Was an interesting idea. It is funny that it's, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's no other way to do it than having it
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  Speaker 1: run by the Disney channel, but it's a Disney like
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  Speaker 1: live action and they're revisiting their own villains more or less.
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  Speaker 1: It's a book that some lady wrote that's like Isle
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  Speaker 1: of the Damned or something. I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: It's a book that some lady wrote and it's basically,
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  Speaker 8: it's a side fan fiction-y kind of a version where
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  Speaker 8: like all of the, like the, the king and queen
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  Speaker 8: of whoever's reigning in this Disneyland take all the villains
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  Speaker 8: and put them on an island and then put like
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  Speaker 8: a magic barrier over it and they're like trapped on
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  Speaker 8: that island.
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  Speaker 1: So then it's like, you know.
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  Speaker 9: Seems like a horrible idea.
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  Speaker 7: Well, then it's.
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  Speaker 8: Like 20 years go by and so now the villains
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  Speaker 8: all live there and all the bad characters, I guess,
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  Speaker 8: from the different, you know, worlds are stuck on there
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  Speaker 8: and they just carry on with their own little lives
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  Speaker 8: so they all have children now.
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  Speaker 1: So now it's the prince that takes over.
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  Speaker 9: Proper gladiator footwear.
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  Speaker 1: We need to It's a top for you to make.
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  Speaker 9: Gladiator guy walking by, and I'm pretty sure he's wearing
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 9: the sandal version of Crocs.
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  Speaker 4: You've seen a few that.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: You didn't approve of, footwear-wise.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, don't be a gladiator wearing sandals, like flip-flop sandals
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 9: or like Crocs. Gladiators did not wear Crocs.
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  Speaker 1: It's not period appropriate.
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  Speaker 9: It's not at all. Anyways, children of villains.
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  Speaker 8: So then the children of the villains, like the prince
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: that's coming up, he's just about to be crowned king
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 8: and he decides like, well, the kids over there are innocent.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 8: They didn't do anything, so why are they trapped there?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 8: So he like deems... to let them come over and
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 8: be part of their little fancy, wonderful Disney prep school
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: kind of thing. So they pick four kids to be
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: the test group or the PR version of this plan.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: So it's the daughter of Maleficent, the daughter of the
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: evil queen, the son of Jafar, and the son of
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Corella de Vil.
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  Speaker 9: I think I have heard of this now.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they all go there.
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  Speaker 8: And basically Maleficent is trying to get them to steal
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 8: the fairy godmother's wand.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: So they can take over. It's an interesting plot, actually.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: I was impressed.
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  Speaker 8: They did a decent job on it. Again, in the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 8: early promos, they don't really mention it's a musical.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Is there a little shingin'? Well, again, I will give
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: them credit.
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  Speaker 8: There is a really well-choreographed dance number in the beginning
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  Speaker 8: that I'm just like, from a technical standpoint, they did
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 8: not half-ass it. It is a well-choreographed dance number. And
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 8: then with like a ton of backup dancers. And then
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: like later there's a lot more like Disney princess singing
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 8: songs kind of stuff. But again, they're all well written.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 8: Like it's Disney doesn't, you know, they got the money
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  Speaker 8: to put together a project.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: So musical or not.
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  Speaker 9: All the kids at the prep school, are they like
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 9: the daughters and sons of like regular like Snow White?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 8: Of like, yeah, there's like they're hanging out with... Mulan's
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 8: daughter is there. The fairy godmother herself has a daughter.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 9: I remember seeing, I saw the dolls at Toys R Us.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting concept. It's kind of fun. I was
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: entertained by it.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 9: Was it fun for the whole family?
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose it was. That's always good. And Dove
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: Cameron's awesome.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: Who?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Dove Cameron. She's Melissa's daughter. She's Mal. She's their new star.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: She's going to be awesome. She, again, like all of them,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: she can sing and she's on her own TV show
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: so she can act too. She's like that next wave
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: that's going to break out. Dove Cameron. Telling you now.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 9: No idea who that is.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Just give it three, four years.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Just telling you now.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 9: I bought some art. I was pretty excited about that.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 9: $ 5 art is the best art there is.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: You are an art fan.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 9: I am when it's cheap. I like sketches.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: But handmade. You like real art.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 9: I do. I don't like prints. I mean, prints are
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 9: okay after a certain thing. Fingerprints. No.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 9: But you know what I mean. I like sketches. If
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 9: somebody will do a little sketch, it's like $ 5. Yeah,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 9: I'll buy that shit. That's probably worth at least $ 10.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 9: Probably more than that. Because other people in there, they
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 9: were selling stuff that was at least similar quality for
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 9: at least twice as much, if not $ 20. $ 20, yeah.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: There was a good amount of $ 20 ones in there.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 9: But for $ 5, I'm like, hell yeah, I'll buy four
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 9: of them things.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: And they were good. They were actually... Again, I've seen
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: some that I'm like, they're trying, but I wouldn't buy that.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: I feel like my.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Iffy artistic skills could.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 8: Do some of these. And then there are other ones
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 8: that I'm like, no, they're good. They've actually trained themselves.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 8: Probably so.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 9: But I keep walking by the booth and I'm like, alright,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 9: they filled in the spots with the ones I bought.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 9: Other people need to go buy more things so that
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 9: they'll fill more spots in so I can have new.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: I think they were all sitting on the table, though.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: I think they had most of them.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 9: There was a couple of them on the table that
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 9: I saw. But I want more options. A lot of
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 9: people have a book so you can put... I'm like, yeah.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 9: I'm excited about those. Like I said, I like cheap
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 9: hand-done art. I don't actually do anything with it. I
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 9: buy it and it just sits in an envelope somewhere.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 9: But I buy it and I'm excited about it.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: You got that going.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: You need to get like a little hand-drawn gallery going
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 8: at your house.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 9: People here have been nice, but I wish they'd be
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 9: just a little bit less talky.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's just the case-by-case basis. I think
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 8: it's totally different. And that's what I was noticing in there.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 8: I was like, The artists seem way less talky than
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 8: the authors. The authors are always like, hey.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 7: Want to read this book?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 9: Hey, do you like to read?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 8: My favorite, that artist guy that like, he kind of
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 8: half glanced up while he was drawing something. He was like, hey,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 8: he handed us a flyer while he was still drawing
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 8: and immediately looked back down. Like he did not really
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 8: make eye contact with us. He just saw there were
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: people coming. He continued drawing. He didn't interact with us
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: at all other than an acknowledgement that we walked past,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 8: handed us the flyer while still drawing, continued on drawing.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Didn't even look up after that. We just kept walking.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 8: I'm like, yeah, there's an artist. He's in his own
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 8: artist world right now doing his thing.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. The author seemed like, I.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 7: Wrote that book. I'm done. Now I want to talk.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: That's all I want to do.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 9: I don't talk to you. Everybody who walks by. I
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 9: try not to make eye contact. If at all possible.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: In most situations, it's for the best.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 9: Anything else? Jason Mewes is... hot mess bun he's got
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 9: going on?
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 8: His weird old lady bun that he had on top
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 8: of his head. I don't know what is up with him.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 8: And he was like super hyper.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 9: Very animated.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: He was very animated when talking on his cell phone.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 7: Oh, always.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: He's reproduced.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 9: That's frightening.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what to do with that either.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 9: I don't think anybody does. I saw a picture of
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 9: him holding the child. Even the baby's like, what the
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 9: fuck is going on?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: He's telling me you're not my dad.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 9: Oh, God.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: What am I going to do with that?
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 9: I've been walking around for a couple hours, so I
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 9: think I've used up all my energy.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 8: That about wraps it up here at Fandom Fest 2015.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 8: We'd like to thank them for letting us be part
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 8: of the show. Again, if you want to learn more
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 8: about them, it is fandomfest.com.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 9: There's an elvishy Elvis.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: He's got old school Vegas Elvis costume on, giant hair,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 8: but with elf ears and pointy, pointy shoes.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 9: They are quite pointy.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: Very strange.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: On that note, let's get out of here. Otherwise, that
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: about does it. We will return next time. Same Geek Feed.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 10: Bye.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: Oh, baby, I'm going to teach you what love's all
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: about tonight. Trust me, honey, everything's going to be all right.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 14: Oh, yeah.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: Just do like I do. Put your arms around me.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: Kneel tight.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 7: Enjoy yourself, baby.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Don't fight. All you gotta do is just let yourself go.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: All you need is just a little rehearsal.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 7: The first thing.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 14: That He's gonna be just fine.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: Just kiss me nice and easy Take your time Cause baby.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: I'm the only one here.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 14: In line All you gotta do.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Is just Let yourself.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Go Let yourself.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: Go Let yourself go.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, why?
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 10: What?
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: What is wrong with people? Stop.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 8: Stop making that weird squeaky chirpy dog bird. I don't
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 8: know what the thing is, but they're walking around making
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 8: a noise and they need to stop it.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 9: At first I thought it was like a squeak toy.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 9: I'm like, what the fuck is it? Is it some toy?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 9: And then it was the girl in the booth, I guess.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 9: And then like there was more of them. They were everywhere.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 9: And then it was just random people. At first I
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 9: thought it was like maybe like a specific cosplay thing
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 9: because it was only girls in like cute little outfits
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 9: or whatever. Then it was just random people and I'm
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 9: like What the hell? Is it some... It's got to
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 9: be some device that they put in their mouth to
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 9: make the sound. It can't be just like an inherently
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 9: natural sound from anybody.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: It's unnatural regardless.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 9: It is very unnatural. I do not like it.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: People, stop making weird chirpy noises.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 9: And unless you're Doug Jones, don't hug me.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 10: Except for my boyfriend.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 9: Boyfriend's okay.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Even he's pushing his luck.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 12: Sometimes.
• 1:28:14
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• 1:28:16
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• 1:28:20
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• 1:28:22
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• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: Talk hard!