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Mistletoe Murders S1 Episodes 5 & 6 (Encore) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Hey friends, Happy countdown to Christmas season. We originally recorded
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  Speaker 1: these reviews of the Mistletoe Murders season one episodes over
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  Speaker 1: the summer, and we are re airing them in honor
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  Speaker 1: of their debut on the Hallmark Channel as part of
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  Speaker 1: the Countdown to Christmas lineup. We will of course be
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  Speaker 1: reviewing the new episodes in season two when those drop
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  Speaker 1: as well. Enjoy the reviews.
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  Speaker 2: This is a bramble jam podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Girls Go One Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Wendy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a former Homemark hater. It's finals week in our
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  Speaker 3: summer school series. As we wrap up season one of
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  Speaker 3: Missletoe Murders, we will be discussing episodes five and six
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  Speaker 3: Death of a Humbug Parts one and two. While you're
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  Speaker 3: beginning of August. I know, I am not ready. Walked
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  Speaker 2: At the grocery store, I walked down like the one
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  Speaker 3: prepping for an upcoming mail bag episode. We promise, we promise.
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  Speaker 3: August is busy for us, so the entire summing is busy.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a little bit of a wacky schedule. It's fine,
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  Speaker 3: it's fine. We'll be like both feet in the sand.
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  Speaker 3: Is that the same? That's not the same. I'm just
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  Speaker 3: saying that when the Countdown to Christmas comes, there's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be no lack of episodes from us. That is correct.
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  Speaker 3: Let's here a synopsis of Death of a humbug.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell was I talking about to feet in
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  Speaker 2: the sand? I don't know what that means.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, here's the synopsis for episodes five and six. A
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  Speaker 3: murder leads Emily and Sam to a scavenger hunt orchestrated
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  Speaker 3: by the victim. Emily continues to solve the scavenger hunt
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  Speaker 3: and grapples with her past. Melanie Or directed episodes five
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  Speaker 3: and six of Mistletoe Murders. Melanie has previously directed on
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  Speaker 3: series like Sullivan's Crising, The Hardy Boys and Spencer Sisters.
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  Speaker 3: Shelley Scarrow wrote the duo episodes of Mistletoe Murders. Shelley's
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  Speaker 3: other writing credits include Sullivan's Crossing, Wyona Irp, and De
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  Speaker 3: Grassi The Next Generation. Tom Kavanaugh joins the cast as
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  Speaker 3: game Master Glenn Shaw. Tom has several long series runs,
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  Speaker 3: including eighty three episodes of ED and one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: forty six episodes of the Flash. For Hallmark, he starred
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  Speaker 3: in Darrow and Darrow Movies Again. I'm gonna that's a
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  Speaker 3: Hallmark project. It is, you know, we nothing they just
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  Speaker 3: get I know, it's one of those it's like the
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  Speaker 3: Rex and Hudson.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure they thought, Yeah, it is Kimberly
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  Speaker 2: Williams Paisley.
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  Speaker 3: I remember opening up this tab and it has the
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  Speaker 3: Hallmark Movies and Mysteries logo on it.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, got it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, we did get another email from a
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  Speaker 3: listener of the show who's begging us to review that
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  Speaker 3: that series. Yeah, I'm not opposed to it, it's just
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  Speaker 3: unfortunately not happening this month. There was not even this
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  Speaker 3: not even this year. No, probably honestly not even this year.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, there was some discussions since.
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  Speaker 3: We cut down our Missletoe Murders episodes from six to
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  Speaker 3: three rightfully, so I don't think anybody argues with that
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  Speaker 3: decision that we now had room for that, and I
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  Speaker 3: suppose that's true. But Hayle, we do actually have a surprise.
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  Speaker 3: We had initially said we weren't doing something, and we
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  Speaker 3: are doing it. So just keep an eye on that
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  Speaker 3: schedule for something fun coming to girls, go on Hamemark,
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  Speaker 3: What is it?
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  Speaker 4: The Chicken Sisters?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not doing it so great for me.
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  Speaker 3: I have a question complete side topic here. When Hallmark
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  Speaker 3: drops season two of Missletoe Murders, I'm guessing we're going
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  Speaker 3: to review it in real time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we haven't seen like a schedule yet, so
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  Speaker 3: we don't. Fully we can't. I'm just talking.
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  Speaker 2: Through it here.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's probably best to do the two episode
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  Speaker 3: if that's the way they continue the parts and parts two,
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  Speaker 3: and we should do them combined. So maybe it will
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  Speaker 3: be like an every other week drop for us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps, I'm totally open to continuing during the two episode system.
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  Speaker 3: I assume we're gonna see the Mistletoe Murders schedule and
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  Speaker 3: we see the full count out a Christmas schedule.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be soon. It's gonna be soon too.
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  Speaker 3: I think Jake Epstein plays Wayward nephew Noah. Jake has
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  Speaker 3: been quite the presence on Hallmark, appearing in the three
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  Speaker 3: Unwrapping Christmas movies and four Hearts around the Tables movies
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  Speaker 3: of late. Outside of Hallmark, he's had recurring rolls on
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  Speaker 3: Suits Designated Survivor and The Hardy Boys.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a.
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  Speaker 3: Quick break and come right back with our first impressions
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  Speaker 3: of Death of a Humbug. Hey, Wendy, what was your
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  Speaker 3: first impression of Mistletoe Murders five and six?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I hope I hope the listeners get this one.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you get it.
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  Speaker 3: H Hammark really gave Tom Cavanaugh the Drew Barrymore.
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  Speaker 2: Treatment in this one. Oh I don't know what that means.
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  Speaker 3: Drew Barrymore was in the movie Scream Big Stars in
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  Speaker 3: the first like ten minutes of the movie, which was
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  Speaker 3: like unheard of, like unheard of. Man Tom Cavanaugh rolls
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  Speaker 3: in makes this makes me at least think he's sticking around,
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  Speaker 3: and then he gets gets the he gets whacked, He
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  Speaker 3: gets whacked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. He does stick around in
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  Speaker 3: video form.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, but I thought I.
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  Speaker 3: Thought Tom Cavanaugh was going to come in. Well he's
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  Speaker 3: a big name, at least to me, he's a big name.
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  Speaker 3: I think he was going to come in.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he was going to be maybe like a.
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  Speaker 3: Love trying yeah situation, maybe somebody from her past that
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  Speaker 3: she knows in himera.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know, I don't know, but uh,
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't. So yeah, what's your first impression?
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  Speaker 3: My first impression is I would just like to say
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  Speaker 3: that I called Harvey as the bad guy before was
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  Speaker 3: revealed he was the bad guy due to some hot
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  Speaker 3: dog thing on my part. What's super sleuthen Wait, he
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  Speaker 3: looked like he didn't. He didn't fit in with the.
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  Speaker 2: Rest of everybody.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's not like a big leap to
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  Speaker 3: have like this hot dog vendor come in and be
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  Speaker 3: the bad guy.
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  Speaker 2: Agreed.
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  Speaker 3: However, in the scene where we see the recording device
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  Speaker 3: in the car, right, they've just had their meeting an
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  Speaker 3: Emily's shop, and we cut to someone is in a
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  Speaker 3: car wearing a black jacket and black gloves and they
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  Speaker 3: can is.
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  Speaker 2: There a hot dog wrapper on the seat or something?
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  Speaker 3: They can here Emily and Sam talking in the shot.
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  Speaker 3: I rewound back to see what everyone in the scene
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  Speaker 3: was wearing. Now, the shots are real tight, okay, but
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  Speaker 3: as they prep to leave, they do show them go
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  Speaker 3: gather their coats, and Harvey is the only one that
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  Speaker 3: we see pick up a black cut. Now, now we
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  Speaker 3: don't get shots of everybody like fully dressed in their
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  Speaker 3: gear like it's a quick shot, but that did lead
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  Speaker 3: me to believe that perhaps it was Harvey. So when
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  Speaker 3: we get to the when he absconds with the books
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  Speaker 3: and tosses his cane and gets into the black suv,
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  Speaker 3: I truly out loud, was like I.
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  Speaker 2: Knew it, you felt good about it. Huh.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't happen very often. I need to celebrate the
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  Speaker 3: winds where they come. Let's talk what we liked about
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  Speaker 3: this Maybaby. Well, I wanted to talk about Tom Cavanaugh.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, Welcome to Fletcher's Grove. I loved him as
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  Speaker 3: this cranky bookstore owner. I actually googled how old he
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  Speaker 3: was because I'm having those same feelings as I did
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  Speaker 3: watching Mystery one oh one, where I find myself attracted
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  Speaker 3: to the older man.
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  Speaker 2: He's in his sixties. No, he is not, swear that's
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  Speaker 2: what the Internet said. Dang, like he's like ten years
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  Speaker 2: older than me, maybe even fifteen years older than Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're not in your fifties. I'm fifty.
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  Speaker 3: I think he said he was sixty four maybe, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: fourteen years that's a big wow. Okay, that's much believe
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  Speaker 3: I've guessed. No, although when I think back to Edn't,
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember when that series aired, but many years ago.
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  Speaker 3: He was probably forty in that, so I guess that
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  Speaker 3: makes sense. I just have envisioned him as the same
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  Speaker 3: age this entire time. Yeah, me too, totally. Anyway, I
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  Speaker 3: loved him as Glen Shaw. He had such a small role,
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  Speaker 3: but I love that we got enough of him. We
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  Speaker 3: got to see that he was very smart, he was
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  Speaker 3: very witty. He was kind of a curmudgeon too. Like
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  Speaker 3: I just loved everything about it. Yeah, a small but
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  Speaker 3: pivotal role, important role in this Yeah, I'm speaking of
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  Speaker 3: I really liked the Treasure Hunt mystery in this series
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  Speaker 3: of episodes. I like the way they've handled the three
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  Speaker 3: murders that we've gotten that they've made them were so
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  Speaker 3: slightly different in the way that they're presented to us
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  Speaker 3: because we're dealing with a series of back to back
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  Speaker 3: episodes that aired episodically. They aired weekly, and so a
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  Speaker 3: little bit different than a franchise of movies which come out,
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  Speaker 3: you know, every several months.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe once a year.
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  Speaker 3: When you've got week to week to week, and if
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  Speaker 3: you're having murders happen every single week, well it does
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  Speaker 3: stretch the limits of believability. And so I think they
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  Speaker 3: did a nice job of giving us a variety of murders.
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  Speaker 3: We kind of had Clara, which was like.
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  Speaker 2: A variety of murders.
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  Speaker 3: We had like you know, the classic like potentially poisoned murder,
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  Speaker 3: and then Clara's was almost like a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a cold case murder that we were dealing with. And
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  Speaker 3: then this one, Yes it was a murder, but it
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  Speaker 3: had some additional intrigue added with the treasure hunt, which
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  Speaker 3: I think was a fun way to deal with branding
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  Speaker 3: the murderer.
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  Speaker 2: To catch a killer.
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  Speaker 3: With that said, though, I this topic falls into my wishes.
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  Speaker 3: So do you want me to wait to circle back
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  Speaker 3: to it?
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  Speaker 2: It's up to you, But yeah, we can wait. I
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  Speaker 2: can shut up about it.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, you don't need to shut up about it,
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  Speaker 3: like I I think. I think you're right, like, but
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to like talk through it. Back to
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  Speaker 3: Scavenger Hunt. I did really enjoy that. It wasn't like
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  Speaker 3: as like hokey as it could have been. I think
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  Speaker 3: it was very interesting and I'm like, why is Emily
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  Speaker 3: the smartest one in the room here? Like even the
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  Speaker 3: detective couldn't figure out some of these clues.
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  Speaker 2: But I loved it.
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  Speaker 3: What else did you like the cemetary showdown between Emily
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  Speaker 3: and the hot dog Eye? Yes, ma'am okay unexpected mm
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  Speaker 3: hmm for Hallmark. I thought I thought it felt elevated.
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  Speaker 3: I do have some wishes about it. But I did
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  Speaker 3: like this confrontation. It was tense.
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  Speaker 2: There were like it was she chokes him out.
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  Speaker 3: I love that part of it, but I do have
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  Speaker 3: some criticism about it too that I'm gonna get to. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I really loved my notes say. I loved watching Emily
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  Speaker 3: kick Harvey's ass. And I know he has a different
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  Speaker 3: name whatever, he's Harvey through most of the movie. To me,
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  Speaker 3: I really like that scene. And I think why it
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  Speaker 3: was important is this series of episodes is mostly a
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  Speaker 3: softer side of Emily. Like the first series, we kind
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  Speaker 3: of get introduced to Emily as a battie. We see
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  Speaker 3: the whole Kaimara nonsense and the second duo. We don't
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  Speaker 3: see a lot of her backstory here, and we even
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  Speaker 3: see her saying like maybe it's time to move on
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  Speaker 3: from all of this. But then she kicks his ass
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  Speaker 3: and we get reminded like, no, no, what's that, I'm
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  Speaker 3: a bitch with a backstory? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Is that?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know's I'm not just a bitch. I'm a
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  Speaker 3: bitch with a backstory.
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  Speaker 2: I'm into it. Oh do I need to make a
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  Speaker 2: new edit with that sound? Though?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I really don't know what the origin I've
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  Speaker 3: heard of on TikTok. I'll try and figure it out anyway,
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  Speaker 3: that's what it was giving. If I can figure out
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  Speaker 3: the backstory to that TikTok sound that I've heard a
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  Speaker 3: hundred times, I will drop it in the show notes.
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  Speaker 3: So those are interesting thoughts and I have a reaction
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  Speaker 3: to them, But it also is in my wishes. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I have a been there, Yes, so do I let
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  Speaker 3: me hear yours?
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: I really like that Sam isn't being coy. Sam is
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  Speaker 3: clearly trying to move things forward with Emily. He offers
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  Speaker 3: to break her food, he tries to hang out with her, like,
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  Speaker 3: he's very clearly making himself available to her. They're not pretending.
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  Speaker 3: He's not pretending like he doesn't like her. He's not
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  Speaker 3: pretending like there's not something there. He's trying to move
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  Speaker 3: the relationship forward. She's pushing back because again she's got
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  Speaker 3: a backstory, she got secrets.
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  Speaker 2: She does.
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  Speaker 3: But I really liked that we're not playing games here,
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  Speaker 3: which leads into my final, like which maybe your final.
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  Speaker 2: Like that cliffhanger, Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, before the cliffhanger, the kiss, the
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  Speaker 3: kids so freaking hot, so hot grabbing the waist. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, that's a choice that I think more Hallmark
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  Speaker 3: actors need to be making, because it's very appropriate for Hallmark,
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  Speaker 3: but real hot. Hmm. Going back for the second kiss
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  Speaker 3: also hot. Yeah, man, I feel like the cliffhanger was
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  Speaker 3: so good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it definitely left me wanting more.
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  Speaker 3: He says, this is I want to hear. I want
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  Speaker 3: to let me know what you thought. He says, he
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  Speaker 3: gets well, he gets that phone call while she's changing
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  Speaker 3: right out of her GMS because she wants to go
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: win the snow, which I just love so much. But
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  Speaker 3: he says on his phone call that that he was
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  Speaker 3: told that his chief or whoever called him told him
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  Speaker 3: that they received a call to stop the inquiries about
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  Speaker 3: Emily Lane.
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  Speaker 2: Like, did we just.
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  Speaker 3: Gloss right over that? Who's calling? Who's from above? Calleen saying, like,
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  Speaker 3: stop asking questions? I think that's all part of the cliffhanger.
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  Speaker 2: Mistress, God's so good. It's so good.
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  Speaker 3: It is so good it is, and the suspense was
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  Speaker 3: built because when she leaves to go upstairs to change,
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  Speaker 3: you know something's gonna happen. I thought it was going
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  Speaker 3: to be something more sinister. Like Kaima was going to
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  Speaker 3: show back because we got at the end of episodes
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  Speaker 3: three and four, I'm watching you, and I thought maybe
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  Speaker 3: she would. We were going to see her get like
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  Speaker 3: kidnapped or swept away or wax yeah, you know, over
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  Speaker 3: the head. But this is quieter, and I loved it
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  Speaker 3: because poor Sam, he was all in and then he
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  Speaker 3: realizes that she's been lying to him. And I think
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  Speaker 3: the part that got me the most is I was
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  Speaker 3: thinking Sam would have accepted the truth about who she is.
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  Speaker 2: If she had given it to him. Yeah, but she
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  Speaker 2: is not in a place I know.
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  Speaker 3: I get that, like she doesn't feel safe, she'd really
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  Speaker 3: know him well enough to feel safe. And even us
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  Speaker 3: as viewers, we don't know the backstory, So how can
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  Speaker 3: we determine that she should tell Sam? You know, we
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  Speaker 3: don't know how bad it is. I know, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: sitting here and I one hundred percent agree we don't
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  Speaker 3: know how bad it is. I'm just making assumptions that
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  Speaker 3: it was not rooted in badness that made the exception.
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  Speaker 3: Her deception or her actions, while perhaps destructive or perhaps
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  Speaker 3: criminal in intent, were of the good guy criminal sort.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: I've just decided that she can't be an actual bad guy,
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  Speaker 3: like she's just I love her too much. Oh interesting, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: she's not. Maybe she's made some bad choices, but some
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  Speaker 3: chimera did something to her parents and it was more than.
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  Speaker 2: Just a car accident.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot to unpack here. So perhaps a
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  Speaker 3: vigilante justice situation.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But look, I want to talk about the cliffhanger more
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  Speaker 3: in our wishes?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any more light? No, that's it. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I know you have a lot of wishes. I have
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  Speaker 2: a few.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I want to go back to the discussion about
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  Speaker 3: time frame. Oh yeah, in our last episode you were asking, like,
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  Speaker 3: what's the time frame here? Like we're obviously a couple
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  Speaker 3: weeks out from Christmas and these particular episodes we get
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  Speaker 3: to Christmas. Here, here's my problem. There is a lot
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: of death happening, Yes, a variety of murders, but a
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: lot of death happening in a short period of time
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: in a very small town like that, to me starts
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: to feel a little bit unbelievable. Sure, and it's very
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: similar to the Hallmark mystery movies we watch, right, we
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: have to buy in on, like, oh, these things happen
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: to this baker or this caterer or whatever, over and
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: over and over again. But because it comes in movie form,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: like you said, with a big span of time in between,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: it makes it feel like, oh, yeah, these things could
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: happen in real life, but here inflectors grow.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: We're talking six weeks.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, would you have liked to see the town
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: be like like someone acknowledging, even sue jokingly, like a
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: lot of people seem to be dying around here lately,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Like tis why he's in for murder?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: What the heck is happening here in our small town?
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Though? Was never like a problem before? Yes, maybe something?
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: But then I was thinking, Okay, how are they going
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to handle this in season two? Like is it going
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: to be the same? Are we going to get another
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: six episodes? Then there's going to be three murders or whatever? Right,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Like are we going to get a murder in each
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: set of stories? And I'm like that feels a little
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: too far fetched now, like what is happening? Maybe we
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: won't get that at all. Maybe it's gonna go completely
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: different way. Maybe we get more backstory on Emily, and
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: we don't who knows, right, I don't know then, though,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I was thinking about other weekly mysteries and the only
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: one that can come that comes to mine because I
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: was on Hallmark's schedule recently, is Murder.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: She wrote, yes, which this series was inspired by.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: If you watch the two and a half minute making
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: of Mistletoe Murders that came on after this on Hallmark Plus,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I have not, and I actually was wondering if Fletcher's
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Grove is inspired by Jessica Fletcher. I wasn't watching close
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: enough to hear if they said that, but that I
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: may not have come up with that on my own.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: That feels real cute. If it is, I think so too.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Obviously, that's a show I've never watched, and maybe listeners
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: can weigh in here, But that was a weekly episode.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Was she solving a murder every week?
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I think so?
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: And I think that's why the joke now is like
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: we need the reveal that Jessica Fletcher was actually a
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: serial killer. It's like, how do all of these murders
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: happen in Cabot Cove? Where she's solving all these murders?
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Do I want to watch that show? Maybe like as
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: a throw on, you know, yeah, I enjoy a throw
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: on show, like as I'm getting ready or whatever, so
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: maybe I might My second wish is and this is
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: also something you've talked about earlier in this episode. Episodes
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: one and two were so front heavy on Emily having
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: this mysterious background yep, and then it kind of like
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: you said, then we get like the whole chimera thing
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: in episodes three and four, but then episodes five and six,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: it kind of peters out, like we start to forget
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: that Emily has this potentially sinister background, and then like
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: boom bam, that cliffhanger happens, and then it comes back
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: to the forefront that she is who she's not. And
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I was wondering as I was like writing this, because
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Emily's background, her story is what is most interesting to
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: me as a viewer of this series, and I was like, oh, no,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: we're missing that, like now we're just into regular Hallmark
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: mystery fair a little bit. I was thinking and or
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: worried about. But then I thought, oh, is this intentional?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Is Emily's background not in the forefront of our minds anymore?
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Because now it's almost like we get to relax and
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: forget that she has this background similar to Emily now
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: like assimilating into this new town, and she feels maybe
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: kind of safer, right, and she's trying to forget her
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: background as well. And then whammo. I think that's a
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: great point because as you were saying that, is it intentional?
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I think I think the cliffhanger hits more if we
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: have started to forget that, if we're more in on
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: the Emily Sam of it all and we get hit
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: by the realization almost at the same time that he
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: does exactly. So maybe it was pretty masterful. Maybe maybe
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I have one last wish and then we will talk
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: about your wishes. It goes back to the cemetery fight
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: between the hot dog guy and you said earlier, You're like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: you've convinced yourself that Emily may have done bad things.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: But she was a bad good guy. Yeah right, Yeah,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that's right.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I have convinced myself that she is like Sidney Bristow
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: from Alias oh Cia Cia trained like this. You know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: she's done bad things, but but she's good for the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: greater She's for the greater good.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: So, then, in having this spot in my mind when
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: they have this fight in the cemetery, I was hoping
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: for like a swift ass kicking and it was a.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Little bit hard to like watch. I don't know because
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I am low.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I'm comparing Jennifer Garner at peak ALIAS when she was
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: like do you remember any of this stuff?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Like they would show her.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Like in videos or like in US Weekly of her
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: training while she was in this role. He was like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: so buff, but no, anyway, she was like in peak
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: physical condition. And then I remember, like I remember them
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: talking that she had a body double for all the
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: fight scenes.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wait a minute.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Was there a Was there a body double in this
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: last scene? Okay, I think there was. Well, can you
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: go with me here for a second. Sure, you were
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: talking about Sidney Bristow kicking ass. We are also currently
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: watching Providence Falls, and when I was prepping notes, the
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: IMDb for Providence Falls sucks. So I went to the
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: credits and was watching the credits to pull some names,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and at the end of the credits it's like chorus
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: stunt person, Liam stunt person right, So then I was like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: wait a minute, do we have a stunt person for Emily?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: And I am pulling up IMDb right now? Okay, e
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Nova Zatsman stunt double for Sarah Drew appears in show
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: episodes episode two, Poison and a Partree. You can imagine
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: exactly WHI scene that is she has the loft fight. Yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: oh that was so good, and season one episode six
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: when she kicks the hot guy, hot guy, hot dog
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Guy's ass. Yeah, yes, well, okay, it felt like.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I was watching me fight somebody.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Which just such a jow like I just wanted it
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: to be like I don't know the background of Emily,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: but like I said, in my mind, she's this like
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: CIA trained, like it would have been a better fight.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: This just seemed like it was like a just a
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: regular fight.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: That is interesting that you see her as like professionally trained,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: like you think she was like working with somebody, because
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I think she's just like this independent agent who was
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: out to right the wrongs of her past, like self taught.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: We shall see hopefully in season two, which brings me
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: to my singular wish about this episode. I actually fully
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: agree with all your wishes here, but really the only
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: thing that sticks out to me is I was reading
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: the reviews of this series and so many people were
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: upset about the cliffhanger. Yeah, so interesting, because I was like,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: that's great, right, and then they were like, now we
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: have to wait a year to find out what happens.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: And obviously we have waited several months to watch this,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: so we don't have to wait a year. But that's
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: every television show ever now, Like we live in an
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: era of we drop eight to ten episodes and that's
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: your season and you don't get another season for a year,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: maybe a year and a half.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: So that is just the era of television these days.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: It's not like twenty two episodes ends in May, starts
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: in September.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: You just have to wait for them. I loved the Cliffhanger.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Oh so did I Yeah, so that was my question.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Like, do you even care about the cliffhanger knowing you'd
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: have to wait a year to find out what happened?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: No, No, because there's so much other stuff to watch.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: It's compelling, it brings you back. Yeah, yes, I mean
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: that's what you want.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I mean I could see the Hallmark viewers maybe being
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: a little gun shy where they are left.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: With the cliffhanger and then it doesn't get renewed. Yeah,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: great point.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And at the airing of this season, I don't think
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: we had a renewal date or information. So yes, that
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: would bother me if I didn't know that there was
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: going to be resolution. But now that we're in a
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: great position, we know it's coming. We know there's going
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: to be some sort of follow up on this, whether
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: it's satisfactory or not. I thought the episode go ahead.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, and the fans too, because those
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: who did not have Hallmark Plus who are waiting for
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: this to drop a UREMARKILM. They're gonna get back to
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: back season. So yeah, it's gonna be awesome.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I only have one. Did you see that? Okay, let
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: me hear it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Well, Hallmark deals with a very tricky subject in this episode,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: and that is the right to die.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: They do not use that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know if assisted suicide is a phrase that
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: is commonly accepted anymore.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: They gloss right over it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Like as soon as we find out that he has
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: booked a ticket to Switzerland, I was like, oh, you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: we knew we had Huntington's I knew what was happening.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Their end of life care is what they call it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: But they think I think it's a big deal to
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: discuss it. They handle it kind of nicely, but they
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: do it in a way that if you didn't really
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: know what they were talking about, it might just flow
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: right over your head. Yes, I agree with you.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I thought that was handled nicely. I did. I don't
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: have any digite.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: That's the only thing that I want to shout out
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: is that I love the character of Sue.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Me too.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: She's I don't know what it is. I feel like
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I'm Sue, like that would be me.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: She's a little bit like got a chip on her shoulder, but.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Like, isn't nice as well? I yeah, I don't know.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I love Sue.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: She says about Sam dying and her diner that man
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: would do anything out of spite.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Just yeah, I love it. I love it. She's great.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I do hope we get a little more Sue involvement
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: in season two, but maybe she'll just continue to run
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: in the background and just be like our snarky diner owner.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I feel like at some point she's gotta be more
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: heavily involved. Yeah, she's she's like Brooke too. I really
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: like Brooke as well as just these characters like operating
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: in the background like they're great? Is Sue the female
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Luke Dane's ooh nice pull? Yeah, a little bit little
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: grumpy diner owner, but everybody loves her.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. All right? Are you ready to
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: read this one? Sure?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Tell me what you rated it. I gave it five stars. Wow,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: I gave it four point seventy five stars. Not that
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I didn't love it, don't come for me. Well, thank
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: you for listening to this episode of Girls Gone Homework,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: a Bramble Jam podcast. We are currently reviewing Providence Falls,
• 29:23
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• 29:27
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