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Bama Bob recaps College Football, Scott Dochterman talks Hawkeyes & Mr. Monday Night presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hour number two, Millery Condon, welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Bottom of the hour, Scott, Dr.
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Man, he was a Kinnock in the press box for Hoosiers.
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Hawkeyes. We'll get his thoughts, get his
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thoughts on the Big 10 as well. That was column today at the
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athletic trends plays, I beg your pardon?
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Trends off today, Mr. Monday nights, you got a double dip.
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We'll hear from him coming up here at about 10 minutes before
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too. But the music means it's time to
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recap the week with her buddy Bama.
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Bob, another great weekend of college football.
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Boy, Proctor almost got one in the end zone.
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Rumbling, bumbling, stumbling. That 10 yards, all that poor
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safety that came up to thought, yeah, I'm gonna just, you know
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what? I'm just gonna hit the ground.
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And that was a good business decision.
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Slim down to 359. Yeah, slim and trim and just
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just left it all out there. Hello, Bama.
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How are you? Trenton, Ken, Good to talk to
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you. I'm doing great boys.
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I'd like to play that intro song again please, if we could.
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You like it, huh? Yeah, well, I mean, just
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certainly the best win. I think they've had under 4.
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I know whom, when we get to him and yeah, Proctor, I mean,
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listen, I've been on him, I've been critical.
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I think some of that's been, most of it's been justified.
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But he has dropped. He's dropped weight.
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He looks better. And that was by far, and I'm not
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just talking about the bubble straight to him, but that was by
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far his best game since he's been in Alabama.
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And it was the best game that Alabama has played under Devore.
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That said, if Diego Pasta comes in and and wins Saturday, we'll
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start. We'll start calculating buyouts
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again, kind of how it goes. I love with college sports.
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All right, let's let's start with the the Big 12 because I
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thought it was really pretty entertaining weekend.
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Even Houston's win in overtime was was entertaining.
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Trent, where do you want to go? We've talked about obviously
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Iowa State that started at their most complete game.
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I thought of the year Arizona State, TCU, maybe TCU let it
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slip away. Their thoughts?
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You know, takeaways on Friday night, too, Houston, I mean,
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survival mode survived exactly in overtime against Oregon
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State. Stayed up way too late watching
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that one. Who?
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Is winless this year, we remind everybody.
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That's a bad team. Now, one thing that I warned
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about last week after the big Utah Texas Tech game is not to
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overrate what we just saw in the fourth quarter.
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Look at the totality that you do.
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The Utah defense is still going to be good.
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Utah's still going to be a good team.
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And don't throw dirt on them to go on the road.
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Long road trip after that. Devastate.
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And just completely, I understand West Virginia's got
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quarterback injuries. They're not very good still, I
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thought that was eye opening. Don't say that Utah is dead
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because I think that might be. And we know Willingham's teams,
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they're going to get better throughout the course of the
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season. Yeah.
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Your thoughts on the Big 12 Baba?
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I thought the game Friday night was tremendous.
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Arizona State, TCU, I just think look, I mean those are two we
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talked about it. We talked about it all year.
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I still think this is a this conference is up for grabs.
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I've no clue who's going to I don't know who the best team is.
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Iowa State. I agree with you.
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I mean, I'm sure you all talked about that a lot.
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Tremendous win, right? I went out of a buy over
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Arizona. I just think I didn't see much
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of it, but I just think it is a that's one of those games and
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that's I think Iowa State's program is the point now.
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OK, if you they should expect to win conference home games.
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I think Matt Campbell has got them.
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Yeah. I don't care who the opponent
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is. Maybe it helps a little if you
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want that Oklahoma, Texas are not there, although I think they
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they give those 2/5 anyway. And so, yeah, I think they're in
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the mix again. It's a great job by him.
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I thought again, Arizona TCU was just a fantastic game.
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I think TCU mover couple of uncharacteristic throws, 2
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really good quarterbacks. I don't know who the best team
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in that conference is. I totally agree.
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Which rent on Utah. Let's not overreact to the Texas
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Tech game. They're they're winning him.
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One thing we know they're not going to quit.
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I think they're going to be there at the end.
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Texas Tech, I think in a five week this week, I didn't see
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their game. BYUBYU goes into Colorado and I
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give Colorado credit again, tough loss for them at home.
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They're playing hard. I I didn't know what they were
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going to be this year without Tudor and and Justin Hunter, but
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here, here they are. Travis.
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Yeah, Travis. Sorry, Justin, that Cubs on the
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mind, but yeah, it's just Kansas.
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I guess we're off that train now, Trent.
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No, I'm not. I'm not.
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I'm still aboard. Yeah, that was a tough game.
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Yeah, it was a good game. What I still think we've said it
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all year, this, this conference is up for grabs.
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I don't think you are. You've got a few teams that you
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might want to separate. But Arizona State, we said they
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were going to have something to say and they did Friday night
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there. That's just going to be, it's
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going to go down to the very end and I think we're going to get
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tiebreakers we've never seen in this conference.
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Yeah, I think you're right. Daniels was really good.
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Cincinnati, Kansas was the entertaining football game.
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That's where I spent. Kansas defense stakes, though,
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They do. They're not even a contender to
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get to a title game. No, they can obviously upset
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almost anybody because of that offense.
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Can they win eight games, 7-8? Maybe Seals that's.
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Probably about the right. Yeah, I think it is too.
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All right, Charlie, let's get to the Big 10 with you.
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I thought there was a terrific day in that conference, in
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particular for Rd. teams. So we have to talk about game
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James again, coming up short. It was all there.
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This was an incredibly young, young Oregon team quarterback
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making a first start like this. Yeah.
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And Dante. Is more that one of the Heisman
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maybe? Oh, absolutely favorite.
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Yeah, he's he's definitely up there.
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And you couple it with he's draft eligible.
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It's just wild, yes, but with the red shirt here in there,
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here at UCLA and here he is looking at the highest level.
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Dan Lanning, an absolute star in this sport, being able to do
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what he did and to do that in its environment.
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But. 3/3 after 30 minutes. 17 three it it felt like it's over
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and then it was over. Here comes Penn State had no
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business winning that football game and they had an
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opportunity, but they can't do it again.
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Feels like another year. He can't get it done.
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And Bama, is there a parachute for him at a place like a
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Florida? Is there a parachute where he
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can pull the Steve Alford, get out before the posse gets him,
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Take a job, take a good job, but get out.
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Is there any opportunity maybe down in the South?
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And obviously the connections of Vandy when he was in the SEC and
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what he did with that program, has there been any talk about
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that down in the SEC territory? A little bit and I think I think
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there's something to it. I think he could land at a place
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like Florida and listen, we know what the problems are there with
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Napier and and what they've done now in year 4.
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Yeah, I think I think that's an excellent point.
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I think there is a landing spot at a place like that.
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I don't think there's going to be 1 at a school like an LSU or
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something. You know, if Kip and left Ole
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Miss, maybe, you know, that's one of those things that, you
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know, that maybe they would look to him.
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But I saw a great comment I thought on Twitter, and I don't
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know who it's from. I'd give him credit, but it
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says, you know, Penn State spends an awful lot of time in
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the top ten, never beating anybody in the top ten.
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You know, they're always ranked. They're always, you know,
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highly. I don't know what the record is
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now against top ten teams, but it's not very good.
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It's way under 500 and I think they lost that game in the first
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half like you talked about 33, right, that they should have
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been up at home against an inexperienced quarterback wide
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out prime time at night. You got to find a way to to if
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if your defense is only going to give up three points in the
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first half, you've got to find a way withdrew our and the 2
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running backs and everything else you've got at your
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disposable disposal. If you are James Franklin,
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you've got to put 1720 points on the board.
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So then that comeback when Oregon makes it, you know you're
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not playing catch up. I just think it was.
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But you're right, it's typical small games games.
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That's just what he's come to be.
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Another guy in that conference with an equally abysmal record
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is Lincoln Riley at USC. You just can't.
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Believe they lost that game. I.
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Somebody looked on the doorstep twice too.
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Yeah, it's. True, that's.
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True. Yeah, they did.
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I mean, it could have been a lot worse, but did I see empty seats
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in that stadium, by the way? And if that did, man, that is a
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terrible. Job.
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It's Illinois, Illinois. I mean, it's for my 45 years
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around. This is Illinois football.
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I mean, that's awful. But anyway, again and I listen,
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he was whining a little bit this week and I get I don't totally
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discount what he said at. 9:00 week.
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Last week they kick off at 8:00 LA time right in in the
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Coliseum, and then a week later they got to kick off at 9:00 AM.
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But that's the stupid conference that you play and.
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They were the ones that broke up the PAC 12, yeah.
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Exactly. They are the they were the lead
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dog getting out of that conference, right?
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And so this is what you're stuck with, boys.
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And maybe it wasn't Lincoln Riley's decision, maybe he was
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against it. I don't know.
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But you're going to have you're going to have games like this
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every single year because we all know that that the sport is
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beholden to television. And you're partnered with Fox
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and they've got a new kickoff game.
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And if here's a big game, guess what?
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If it's at Rutgers, you're going to play Rutgers at 9:00 in the
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morning. So get over it or how to deal
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with it. But on the field, that was,
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listen, I, I think, you know, Altmar, I thought played an
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excellent game. That was just a fun game to
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watch back and forth. But those two coaches, getting
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paid probably 20 million bucks between them, beat anybody in
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the top ten at a place like Penn State and USC.
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Iowa, man, gosh, I can't tell you how hard I was rooting for
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Iowa in that game. By the way, what was the spread
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in that? Because to that safety, was that
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a bad beat? It depends when you bet.
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Yeah, for the most part, though it was over a touchdown almost
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all. But if you bet the game earlier,
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it was, yeah. That was funny.
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Yeah, I just. I saw that and I'm like, wow,
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what's this boy? Now?
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If he had tripped, that'd have been something which.
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Was ridiculous, he said. He was in the end zone to begin
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with. Yeah, you know.
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I just don't know what was going on.
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Yeah, I was just crazy. But anyway, good.
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I agree with you. Good weekend in the Big 10.
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But the stories for me, Penn State and USC, big time teams,
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big time. Suppose that big time coach is
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making a lot of money, can't beat anybody ranked teams.
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Julian Sane had a nice game for Ohio State.
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Put that on his. Wife.
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Yes, he did. Well, I watched it, absolutely.
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Where to now? Let's go to the SEC CTC.
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Sam Pittman. Yeah.
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It's over. And he, you know what he did?
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This is the kind of guy he is. He negotiated the buyout down.
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He says, you know what? I don't need it all.
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Go get some players. Yep, just give me Then they go.
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I think it was like 60% of what he was owed.
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He he, he accepted he didn't need to do that.
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We'll, we'll let Bama tackle Alabama, Georgia once again, but
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Ole Miss, it wasn't always pretty, but Speaking of stories
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in Heisman frontrunners Chambliss, Trinidad, Chambliss,
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I mean, what a story coming out of Ferris State.
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Iowa got to transfer out of Ferris State.
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Maybe they got the wrong one apparently because this Chamble,
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Speaking of the betting markets, he is one of the betting
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favorites. He's like in the top six or
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seven to win the high. I mean, the guy didn't play
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total game 3 and here we are. What a performance, what a win.
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And boy, those late Blues, those baby Blues.
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What a beautiful uniform when Ole Miss buses those out.
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No, absolutely. I thought Tennessee, Mississippi
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State was unbelievably entertaining as Bama City was
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written like hell for Iowa. I wanted the state to win, but
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Tennessee was able to pick them off.
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Vandy, the beat goes on. Really beat nobody.
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You know what? Let's back back to Pittman's
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game, but from a Notre Dame perspective.
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How about Carr? He's a hell of a quarterback.
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Notre Dame's got a quarterback, boy.
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CJ Carr can sling it. Notre Dame, like we talked about
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earlier, the rumor, the Chiefs demise a little greatly
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exaggerated. I think Notre Dame's a playoff
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team. Their quarterback looks really,
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really good. Bama, Georgia, Alabama, you
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touched on it early. It was a fascinating game.
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It really was. And the play call to essentially
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end the game by throwing the football?
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Well done. Well, Ryan Grubb, as the kids
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say, was in his bag in this game.
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The first half was tremendous. They had two drives of 15 plus
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plays that chewed up 7 1/2 minutes each.
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In Athens, I mean, Georgia had won 33 straight.
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That is one of the toughest places, if not the toughest
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place to get a win anywhere in the country.
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And they came out off a bye week and absolutely just kept them
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off balance the entire game. We mentioned the pass to Proctor
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and good for them. I they said let's you get under
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360. Well, you know, we're going to
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run a play for you now. I didn't expect to be in Athens,
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but still. And they ran another one for him
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earlier in the game. They had him out wide, put him
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in motion. I don't know what they were
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going to do if they were going to, you know, good Lord, if they
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were going to run a jet sweep with him or not or just have him
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pull out the, you know, the elite blocker.
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But Jim Miller had a false start.
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So they were going to do it. They came back to that again.
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That was the second time they had something with him lined up.
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Why? But look, it was it was the
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signature win obviously for de Boer.
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You know, there's still some problems right there.
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Georgia just gashed them on the edges, not between the tackles,
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but on the edges. They dropped, dropped a wide
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open touchdown pass. And by the way, if we're going
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to talk Heisman Simpson, we saw Ty Simpson.
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Yes. Yes, Kid has played in Listen.
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He's played in Tallahassee. He's won in Athens.
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He's played another Big 10 team in Wisconsin.
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Granted, not very good. I understand the guy has not
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thrown an intercept. No Lev Levante zip.
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No interceptions. Yes, he has been fantastic.
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He has got tremendous grasp. That offense.
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That was just a really, that was a fun game.
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Alabama again, did not make adjustments in the second-half.
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They were shut out, but they did enough and Kirby Smart helped
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them. I didn't like was about 6
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minutes left. I did not like not kicking the
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field goal to tie the game. And then the play they ran was
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stupid. That's just, that's just coaches
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trying to out out, you know, smart, everybody else.
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But again, big win, signature win.
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Now you got to back it up. I don't know who the best team
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is in the SEC guys. I was thinking about that when
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we went on the air. That's the best team in the I
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can't give it to Missouri because they haven't left
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Columbia yet they're five and O they haven't left Columbia.
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They got a bye week this week and then Alabama comes to
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Columbia. Play a road game before you
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know, I don't care if you beat Alabama play a road game A&M
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Auburn is just not very good. They're so limited bandy.
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How about how about game day going to Tuscaloo for the
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Vanderbilt game this week? You touched on Pitman and I
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agree with you, Ole Miss man, something's.
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Maybe it's them's. Wrong.
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Something's wrong with LSU, OK. And we're in we're in crisis
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mode now if you're if you're LSU, because they've been
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sneaking by with great defense. DJ Lagley gave them 5 picks at
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that game that they beat Florida.
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Now they're getting into the meat of their conference
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schedule on the road and they got they got bigger, tougher
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games. And that offense is something's
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wrong with it and it ain't working.
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And they're in crisis mode down in Baton Rouge.
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Let's go to the ACC and I want to start with Friday night.
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Just an unbelievable game on a couple of counts.
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A behind the curtain with the officials on the touchdown, non
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touchdown, which is fascinating. Then the students rushed into
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the field fastest, fastest field rush in the history of of
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rushing onto the field. So did they get the call right?
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Nobody knows. I don't think they did.
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I thought he had possession a long enough inbounds and then he
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maybe he batted it in a couple of times right before they got
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to the back of the end zone. But I thought he had possession
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long enough. But I say this whether I'm right
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or whether I'm wrong, I love the fact that we heard what the
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people that make those decisions was going through their mind
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trend. Yeah, it's perfect and it's the
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way it should be for all of our football viewing and hopefully
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we will get to that point. Outside of that, I mean, talk
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about a big pass. What we're back to it.
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The ACC stinks. I know Miami's going to be part
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of the conversation though. I like the points this week with
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the Seminoles. Well, we'll leave that till
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Friday's episode. Still, this league, it's just a
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bunch of below average to average teams beating up on each
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other outside of the top of the league, the middle, the bottom.
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This is what holds the ACC conversation down.
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It's just who do you like? NC State, Cal.
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It's just a. Second, pull the telly.
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They're just a bunch of men out. There, Yeah, Georgia Tech, who I
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thought has a chance to be unbeaten, they just got by.
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Bama, your thoughts back to Friday and then your thoughts on
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the ACC. Yeah, the Friday game and I'm
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glad you mentioned it again with with the with the replay at the
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live replay that is just again, we talked about it the best
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invention. It's better than the yellow
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line. But you want to tell me I can
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have one or the other get rid of the yellow line.
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My wife wouldn't like it. That's how she watches football,
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you know, but I mean to hear that and I will say this, I
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think they got the call right. I mean, it was Bang, Bang.
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But I thought that he he might have had one foot down, but he
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didn't. He kept bobbling.
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I don't think he ever fully secured it.
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But be that as it may, I was really afraid that that Florida
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State receiver is going to get stampeded because that fall hit
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incomplete. It was about a second and a half
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and there were 500 people in the end zone.
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This was a bad loss for Florida State and I think it makes this
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Miami game a must win because that was a conference game and
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it's classic, right? This classic trap game.
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They beat Alabama, they're flying high.
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Nobody's coming within 50 points of them.
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They're ranks in the top ten. We got Miami coming in next
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week. Oh well, we got to beat Virginia
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too. And then.
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So if they don't beat Miami now, I think if they don't get into
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the ACC championship game, they're not getting their large
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team out of that conference. No way they might not to get to
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you know, but yeah, they so it's a must win.
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But I was surprised most surprising outside of that was
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the way that Duke just hammered Syracuse 38 to three.
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I did not see that coming. That's up a pretty good match up
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this week with George Tech. But yeah, that you're right.
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I was asking who's the best team in the in the SEC?
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Who's the top five? I mean I guess my 3.
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In college football overall. Yeah, I mean, Ohio State, Oregon
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and Miami, I don't know where to go after.
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That those 3 old miss. A&M.
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Maybe A&M. Maybe.
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A&M beat Auburn. I mean, Auburn is so limited.
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I mean, they just, they've got a no offensive line and I know
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they won in Notre Dame. Can we throw them in there?
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Alabama's got a loss. Georgia has a loss.
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Texas Tech. I mean, now maybe you can't go.
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Why not? A top five team.
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Come on, they're unbeaten and. And they played one team with a
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pulse. Yeah, but they won.
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Yeah, that Arkansas playing bluff games, I thought.
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Who Who would you take at Alabama?
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Texas Tech on a neutral this weekend?
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You're thinking about that. Oh yeah, I am.
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Oh boy. I think Texas.
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I think Texas are pretty good. I don't think they're yeah, I
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don't think they're top five team.
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I don't know the answer. Well, God put two other teams
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there. Who we put in there I put.
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Alabama there. Alabama, they ran into a bus
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saw. In week 1.
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Yeah, I mean, if we're talking. About once beaten or just just
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power rankings, right? These two team OK, all right.
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There's still some holes for sure, and I need to see
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consistency from them because again, coming out of the bye
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week right now, can you back up that win with Vanderbilt?
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We talked about Vanderbilt a couple weeks ago.
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They just, they don't excite anybody and they beat you last
20:20
year. So you should be up for them.
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But it's Vanderbilt, right? But game days going to the right
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spot. Game days going to the right
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spot. I agree.
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I think so too. And it's good for Vanderbilt and
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they're and probably is going to get a lot of attention, a lot of
20:33
eyeballs, and he deserves it. Oklahoma, if Mateer wouldn't
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have got hurt. Yes, yeah, but.
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He's hurt, Baba. We're out of time, brother.
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We'll talk to you on Friday. I appreciate you doing this as
20:44
always and look forward to Friday.
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Thanks, Baba. Can't wait guys talk to.
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You good? Good to talk to you.
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I'm Nori Condon, welcome back. 1:30 on a Monday.
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Mr. Monday night's got a double header tonight.
21:18
We'll hear his pics coming up here in about 20 minutes.
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Right now, let's talk to our friend Scott Dockerman.
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He writes for The Athletic and he joins us.
21:26
His piece on what we learned in the Big 10 was posted this
21:28
morning at The Athletic. Pretty good weekend in the Big
21:31
10, especially for Rd. team. Scott Dockerman, good to speak
21:33
with you. How are you?
21:36
I'm doing great. How's it going today in Des
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Moines, Oh? Everything.
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'S just peachy keen. Absolutely.
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Well, a lot of ground to cover with you.
21:42
I know you were at the the Hoosiers and the Hawks.
21:46
I thought Kennick Stadium almost pulled it out again, as you've
21:48
seen it do many times. The crowd was fantastic.
21:51
Phil Parker was at his best, I thought.
21:55
But it seemed like, I hate to say it, Doc, but it seemed like
21:58
the Hawks let one slip away. And then maybe, and that maybe
22:00
that's not being fair to Indiana because that's a really good
22:03
football team, but boy, I thought the Hawks let one slip
22:05
away. There were a couple of plays I
22:09
think in in each phase, late in the game, within the final 2 1/2
22:14
minutes where Iowa could have won the game and or and OR late
22:19
went on defense and yet it slipped away.
22:22
And I think #1 is the the screen pass that Hank Brown threw in
22:26
the rubber filament instead of to the running back?
22:31
Because chances are at that point, even if he gets tackled
22:36
and doesn't reach the first down, then you at least get it
22:40
past the two-minute warning. Now it didn't matter ultimately
22:42
in the timing of things, but at least you would have had that
22:46
opportunity and then you could have set yourself up for a field
22:49
goal and inside of two minutes, if he gets the first down, you
22:53
milk the clock, you kick the field goal.
22:55
If conceivably you win the game, maybe you centered a little bit
22:58
better for your kicker and and you win the game.
23:00
But your your field goal kicker, who has been great and mediocre
23:05
in the same season, misses that field goal, which is so unlike
23:09
him or Iowa to miss in those moments.
23:11
They just traditionally make them.
23:13
And then, of course, finally, the the zero blitz column third
23:16
and 10, which is understandable because the pressure was was
23:20
really effective of the game. But Indiana just kind of woke up
23:25
and realized, hey, we've got one-on-one coverage with one of
23:28
the best receivers in the country on probably the weak
23:31
link of the secondary. Let's take advantage of that.
23:33
And Elijah Sarat was smart enough to flatten his route a
23:37
little bit and break a little faster.
23:39
And and once he did, I mean, Deshaun Lee was back too far.
23:43
He's just not quick enough to to keep up with him and boom, he
23:45
was off the races. And, and so, you know, all, all
23:48
of it is execution. You hate to say it, but it's
23:52
true. And and that's really what kept
23:54
Iowa from, you know, generating a money rental upset.
23:58
Schedule's incredibly difficult and the bye week comes at a good
24:01
time with the Gronowski injury and we'll see on that front.
24:03
Learn more obviously about it going forward here in the next
24:06
week or two. However, this team two losses
24:09
already second consecutive year 2 early losses in September
24:13
lives a lot of people leading to chirping and certainly about the
24:16
future of the program on the heels of one that would have
24:20
been, should have been and the one back in Week 2 that would
24:23
have been should have been. But they're ending in LS.
24:26
Do you read anything into that doc or is it is it too much?
24:29
Is it just paint with a broad stroke, couple of bounces go the
24:32
different way. We're talking about A5 and O
24:33
team right now. You know, this is a team that's
24:38
that's a little bit limited, but I thought, you know, you lose by
24:41
eight points to two teams in the side of the top 15.
24:44
That's not that's not getting blown out.
24:46
That's not getting boat raised by somebody you shouldn't be.
24:48
It's not. I would say last year there were
24:50
worse losses. UCLA and Michigan State.
24:52
If it if it was those types of losses, then yeah.
24:55
I think that there's a major right in people complaining.
24:58
But you know, the the whole rhetoric that I hear from
25:01
people, it's like it's it's so 0 sum in Iowa.
25:04
It's kind of nausea dating at times because if they lose, it's
25:08
like, I've seen enough. It's time.
25:10
It's time. It's time for Kirk to hang it
25:12
up. I'm tired of this.
25:13
You know, he needs to be fired. What's his buyout?
25:16
Come on. You know, Indiana's a pretty
25:18
good team. I, I, I was at that game against
25:20
Illinois, and I can attest to you that Iowa played Indiana so
25:24
much better than just about any team I've seen play Indiana
25:27
other than Notre Dame in person. And then, of course, Ohio State
25:30
last year. Iowa played a great game.
25:32
Iowa, to me, it looks better now than it did before the game.
25:37
There are a lot of questions after the Rutgers game about it.
25:39
Can their past defense even handle anybody like it?
25:41
You know, Indiana and they showed they could.
25:44
I think TJ Hall had an outstanding game.
25:47
I thought Cohen enteringer was everywhere when needed to be.
25:49
I thought the defensive line played really well.
25:52
I think they're they got a little bit of a liability at
25:54
middle linebacker just speed wise.
25:56
But overall, they played hard and, and offensively when
26:00
Gradowski was in there, they they seem to figure out what
26:02
they want to do and how they want to move the ball.
26:05
He was accurate. He ran the ball.
26:07
Kamari Moulton played well. I think it's really short
26:10
sighted and, and this is in today's world, you're going to
26:13
get this just to say, well, let's throw out the season
26:15
because maybe the CFP is is off the table or almost off the
26:19
table. And I think that's yeah, over
26:21
that. I mean, this team's probably an
26:23
8 and four or seven and five seas team.
26:26
And in the totality of what you want, that's not what you want.
26:29
However, when you look at the team, their schedule and the
26:32
teams are playing, you know, if you can't take that, go ahead,
26:36
roll the dice like Wisconsin did, and you're going to get
26:38
what you're going to get. Absolutely.
26:40
Your thoughts on Penn State? Oregon looked like Oregon was
26:43
home free. Penn State gets back in the game
26:45
and then drew Allard the interception and overtime.
26:48
I mean, for a guy, for a guy's been thrown that many passes and
26:50
played that many games, you just can't make that throw, Doc.
26:54
I was below. I was I was dumbfounded by him
26:56
throwing that footballs, particularly the way it ended
26:58
up. Your thoughts on what you saw?
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Penn State, Oregon Is Oregon a legitimate threat in the Big 10
27:03
again? Absolutely, Oregon is the most
27:07
impressive team so far in the country to me.
27:10
You know, their their game against Northwestern was, you
27:13
know, kind of lackadaisical. Those games happen.
27:15
You're on the road, you're playing at 9:00 AM on your body
27:17
clock. But to go in that environment,
27:19
which I think in the Big 10 is the most intimidating when it is
27:22
a whiteout and you got 107,000 people and you know what they
27:26
want because they need that win and they beat.
27:29
You beat them last year in the Big 10 championship game.
27:33
To go in and there and dominate for, you know, certainly for the
27:36
better part of the second-half and then to pull out the victory
27:38
at the end, I think that is really impressive.
27:42
And Dante Moore to me on, you know, we were starting our
27:45
Heisman ballot watch. He's number one.
27:47
I mean, he is playing really well.
27:50
And for for Dan Lanning, he has not lost a Big 10 conference
27:53
game. And to do that as a newbie going
27:55
on the road, going to these places, that's just really
27:58
impressive. On the flip side, you know,
28:00
there's this, you swing back and forth with Penn State, you know,
28:05
against teams that are ranked in the top six.
28:07
He's 2 and 18. And those two wins happened in
28:10
in 2016. You've got to win these games.
28:13
Now, you could also say they're right there.
28:15
They were down by two touchdowns when they allowed Drew Aller
28:18
just to kind of be himself. He came back, he scored
28:21
touchdowns. They they went to overtime.
28:23
They scored first in overtime. They did all the right things.
28:25
And sometimes when you get a double OT, things happen.
28:27
But but there is a pattern. And therefore losses over the
28:31
last two years, three of them were ended with the opportunity
28:35
to to win or tie because of their our interceptions.
28:38
The other one was Ohio State where they were stranded at the
28:40
1 yard line. So they're not they're not
28:43
making the biggest plays at the biggest time.
28:45
So I think Penn State's going to have that question.
28:48
And, and, and from what I've seen of them, that they're
28:51
vulnerable to not only losing to Ohio State, but also getting
28:55
upset somewhere on the road, you know, at a tough venue.
28:58
And if that happens in their nine and three, that place is
29:01
going to be a mosh pit of anger for a long, long time.
29:06
Doc, I know you put together the week weekly bracket, kind of the
29:09
projected bracket as it looks in college football and the SEC can
29:14
ask earlier who's the best team in the SEC, I don't know.
29:16
I mean, it's just it is incredibly difficult.
29:19
I have a feeling we might be treading towards, you know, a
29:22
half dozen teams 9:00 and 3:10 and 2:00 didn't get to the
29:26
conference championship game. And trying to figure out these
29:28
resumes coupled with only eight conference games and not having
29:31
the same amount of bat data points.
29:33
What have you been able to figure out in the SEC to this
29:35
point? And figuring out who should be a
29:37
playoff team. Who will be a playoff team going
29:39
forward? I spent more on that dynamic
29:44
than any other when it came to the other night.
29:45
I mean, there's there's like 10 legitimate teams in the SEC that
29:49
could be playoff teams, but all of them have some sort of a pock
29:53
mark. I mean, I guess Ole Miss in
29:55
Oklahoma really don't you know, at this point.
29:57
But but still, there's there's just a lot of questions out
30:00
there and you know, Texas lost at Ohio State.
30:03
Are they but they won these games.
30:04
I mean, they're, you can go any to all of them and they've got
30:08
something there and they're going to accumulate something as
30:11
the the season progresses. And so I had five of them in and
30:15
I'm like, OK, which ones do I leave out?
30:17
And that may be very difficult. So I mean, as we kind of matrix
30:20
through the season, we will. But I, I entered, I was in the
30:24
mock CFP meeting two weeks ago in Dallas and, and went through
30:29
like all of the data you could possibly.
30:32
And the data is monstrous. It, you know, to ask the
30:36
committee to go through more data is probably
30:38
counterproductive. It can only tell you because
30:41
because your eyes get glossy, you look at this strength of
30:44
schedule component and it's better than this one.
30:46
But then there's this and then there's this and the metrics and
30:49
you're going, I don't know, you know, you just really go through
30:52
it and and I'm going to write about it this week.
30:54
And and I think that's going to be the same way here.
30:57
That's why I'm not entirely opposed to the auto bids for the
31:02
conferences because I think in some respects, when you look at
31:06
the Big 12, I mean, the two teams, I was basically like flip
31:09
a coin between Texas Tech and Iowa State, who's who's better
31:12
at this point? They're both really good.
31:15
But then some, each of them, let's say, gets tripped up and
31:18
then one of them loses in the Big 12 title game.
31:20
They're going to get left behind.
31:22
It's going to happen almost every year.
31:23
They're going to get left behind by the SEC and the Big 10.
31:26
So, you know, if I'm the Big 12, I, I cheer for that, you know,
31:30
because at least you're going to get 2 teams in, even if it's 16.
31:33
So, so, and the ACC is somewhat like that too.
31:37
I mean, so I, I think at this point it's just, it's so
31:42
uncertain. Big 10 is really deep, SEC is
31:45
even deeper, and there's just a lot of question marks.
31:48
Yeah. And your Mark who, I don't think
31:50
he's made very many mistakes, if any, this is one of them by him
31:52
not taking that two that was given to him.
31:56
We'll see. Obviously, they got a long way
31:57
to go before they ultimately decide how this thing is going
32:01
to look. Scott Doctorman from the
32:02
athletic Dock, great stuff as always.
32:04
Appreciate having you on. So just because I don't recall,
32:07
I'm trying, did you do that exercise, the mock exercise when
32:11
it comes to the NCAA basketball bracket?
32:15
I've not done the basketball 1, but I I was officially marked
32:19
Antonio in the mock draft meeting two weeks ago in Dallas.
32:23
Yeah, I wanted to see if you could compare the two, if there
32:25
was any similarities at all. No, I, yeah, I haven't gone
32:30
through that. I I don't know, maybe some point
32:32
I will, but it's definitely a thorough process.
32:35
Did they feed you like they feed the guys on the committee?
32:39
I suppose so at least one one of the meals, but yeah, that's not
32:44
anything I but no, they're great.
32:47
They're they're great to deal with.
32:48
They're, it was, it was really, it's just going to be when you
32:52
see the amount of information and pressure that is applied to
32:56
the, the selection committee, you can understand the benefit
33:00
of the doubt And you almost, you feel for them.
33:04
Because when we went to the last selection between basically SMU,
33:08
Ole Miss and Alabama, the last at large, it was, I mean, we, we
33:13
went around for about 45 minutes trying to figure out who is
33:16
better among them based on all their, their resume.
33:19
And, and they usually do that for four or five hours.
33:22
We all thought if it comes easy and anybody can do it, but
33:25
apparently not. I look forward to that peace
33:27
talk. When's that going to hit the
33:28
Athletic? I think it's Wednesday or
33:31
Thursday stuff, so it's I've got to get it, get it, get it done
33:34
by tomorrow, so. Pressure's on.
33:37
We'll let you go. Thank you, Scott Dockerman.
33:38
Appreciate what you do for Trent and myself.
33:40
We'll talk to you next week if your schedule allows.
33:42
Thank you, Scott. All right.
33:44
Thanks for having me. Good.
33:44
To have you, Scott Dockerman from The Athletic, that'd be a
33:47
fun exercise. I'd love to tell somebody that
33:49
was that's done on both, you know, done the basketball 1,
33:53
gone to Indy and went through those steps as opposed to this
33:55
one here. That sounds like pretty cool
33:57
exercise. Definitely a different one.
33:59
Sure, absolutely, Mr. Monday Night, What's his record?
34:03
Two and two I believe. Well, he's got 2 tonight.
34:06
He went. The double header O for two and
34:09
I believe one of the I'll look back through the records, go
34:12
into the notebook and see what he is officially when we come
34:15
back. All right, good stuff.
34:16
Well, that's coming up next. Miller and Condon, our final
34:18
segment on a Monday. Glad you're with us on Des
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Burnside and Alec Bussey Well, Mr. Monday night making an
34:48
appearance doubleheader. The odds from the wager talk is
34:53
down, which is strange. I see All right, I think I I
34:57
think Denver was about it. Well, I got my app.
34:59
I guess we had opened it 7 1/2 seven and a half.
35:01
And what's are the Dolphins favored?
35:04
What? 3 1/2. 2 and 2 1/2 OK.
35:07
There are some threes in the. Market let's get Mr. Monday and
35:09
I'd say, oh, he sees the double header on Monday Night Football.
35:12
One play for Mr. Monday Night Cincinnati.
35:16
You what? Love the chili?
35:18
No, you don't. It's terrible.
35:21
That's average. Not at all.
35:22
I've never even had it. They put it on spaghetti.
35:25
Yes, I love spaghetti. You know what?
35:28
I tried and it wasn't awful. It wasn't awful.
35:30
The Forget the chili. Was that was one of the better,
35:33
better ways I've heard it said? Because I've heard a lot worse
35:36
than. That it wasn't awful.
35:37
So you're so why is he taking the Bengals?
35:41
They can't be as bad as they looked against the Vikings.
35:43
There are so many trends that point to teams that get blown
35:46
out like that in the NFL. Hell, it was Atlanta.
35:49
There's a reason I like that, Lana.
35:50
There are trends that show you teams coming off Monster Plus.
35:53
Now there's another one that I saw today and it was something
35:56
like teams that turn it over five times or more, or like 4
35:59
and 18 against the spread the next week.
36:01
So look, there's a trend in the NFL for anything that you want.
36:05
I am a believer, though, teams that just have that kind of
36:08
performance the week after, and that's Mr. Monday Night, likes
36:11
that trend. So, well, listen, Mr. Monday
36:13
Night, probably watch weeks Whatever Week 17, the
36:16
penultimate week of last year's regular season and saw T Higgins
36:20
eat Riley Moss's lunch. He embarrassed. 130 yards, 3
36:23
touchdowns, like 11 catches. Yes, like you look like Riley
36:26
Moss, freshman at Purdue. Yeah, it really did.
36:29
I mean it was terrible, but Joe Burrow was throwing the
36:34
football. Joe Burrow's not in Denver
36:35
tonight. At least you it might be.
36:37
He's not dressed. Denver's not going to lose 3
36:39
games in a row, are they? I can't see it Trent.
36:43
I just can't look at our Survivor hopes are on Denver
36:46
tonight or once again for the 4th consecutive year, we will
36:50
not see the month of October in this God forsaken I hated
36:53
contest and I can't wait to play next year.
36:56
So I I just love the back and forth that you have with this
36:59
contest every single year. And before on I think it was
37:03
Friday, we were talking before the show, you're talking about
37:06
putting all your money into Survivor, that it was all going
37:08
to go there. You're done with millions after
37:12
last year when he got knocked out of Survivor, you weren't
37:14
doing you weren't doing that whenever again, it was only
37:16
going to be millions for you. Never again are you going to do
37:19
Survivor. So the back and forth, it's a
37:22
great contest. It's so much fun.
37:23
Truly is a lot of fun. I would just like to see
37:26
October. There's a huge number of entries
37:28
on Denver also tonight, are there?
37:30
Yes. I saw the splits over the
37:33
weekend and, well, it was when the Saints were hanging around
37:36
against the bills, they said. There was a 2 point game midway
37:38
through the fourth quarter. They were there.
37:40
That bill's defense. Sucks.
37:41
They're bad. You know, I said it earlier and
37:44
I mean it and I hate that I mean it.
37:47
I I want to be wrong. I think after what I witnessed
37:51
yesterday and again, the Ravens defense is not good.
37:54
Are the Chiefs again the most complete team in the NFL?
37:58
The Eagles have offensive issues.
37:59
Yes, no doubt they do. A.J.
38:01
Brown can't do anything. No, they don't give them the
38:03
ball. No, Green Bay looked like a
38:05
legitimate threat in the in the in the NFC, you don't tie the
38:09
Dallas Cowboys. I have no idea how they lost
38:12
that game. I truly don't.
38:14
Tampa Bay, they might win the NFC.
38:17
They're extremely banged up, too.
38:19
I mean, Mike Evans is taking his standard month off.
38:23
He always does, but they, if it would have, should have beat the
38:25
Eagles yesterday. They were doing that so depleted
38:28
on that offensive line. And yeah, if you say maybe the
38:32
Chiefs are the most complete team, could you say the Bucks
38:33
are the most complete team in the NFC?
38:35
Well, I I maybe. Oh my God.
38:39
Another Chiefs Bucks Super Bowl. I hope it's the same result if
38:43
that's what we get. 1830 entries on the Broncos tonight,
38:47
including Ken Miller. Go, Broncos, go.
38:51
We'll talk to you tomorrow. Coming up next off the bench,
38:54
Trent and I with you every Monday through Friday, noon to
38:56
two. Glad you spent time with us.
38:58
Hope you will tomorrow on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.