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The Late Debate | 10 January · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: General, Welcome to the Lait Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Caroline Marcus, joined tonight by Sky News contributor Joe
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  Speaker 3: Hildebrand and political commentator freyer Leitch. Tonight, we start in Sydney,
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  Speaker 3: where there's been another sickening anti Semitic attack after a
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  Speaker 3: synagogue in the city southwest was vandalized with at least
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  Speaker 3: a dozen swastikas the words free Palestine and a reference
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  Speaker 3: to Hitler.
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  Speaker 4: And the community has had enough. You know, they're furious,
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  Speaker 4: but this is being allowed to happen, that this is
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  Speaker 4: what we are becoming as a society, and we keep
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  Speaker 4: hearing this can't be normalized.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't who we are.
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  Speaker 4: But once something happens over and over again in a
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  Speaker 4: fifteen month sequence, perhaps it is who we are.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps this is what we have become.
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  Speaker 4: But we need to change the course that the society
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  Speaker 4: is on, because to have one segment of our community
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  Speaker 4: fearful to practice their faith, to congregate in the House
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  Speaker 4: of Worship, it's a bliight on our democracy, on our
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  Speaker 4: humanity and our multiculturalism.
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  Speaker 3: It's starting to feel like groundhole day. Yet again, we're
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  Speaker 3: seeing how anti Semites are exploiting the Palestinian cause to
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  Speaker 3: spread a borrn Jew hatred across the country. And once again, Freya,
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  Speaker 3: this is not any about any kind of legitimate criticism
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  Speaker 3: of Israel. It's about anti Semitism, pure and simple. It
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  Speaker 3: needs to stop. And I think it starts at the
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  Speaker 3: top with our.
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  Speaker 5: Leaders one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 6: And this claim that it's it's just anti Zionism, all
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  Speaker 6: these activists in history, it's all the protesters. It's not
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  Speaker 6: really about Israel, it's not really about the Jews.
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  Speaker 5: It's just anti Zionism.
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  Speaker 6: We only have an issue with Jews when they want
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  Speaker 6: to go to their homeland. That's our only issue. No,
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  Speaker 6: this proves it. It is anti Semitism. You cannot. I
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  Speaker 6: do not believe that in the twenty first century you
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  Speaker 6: can draw the distinction between anti Semitism and anti Zionism,
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  Speaker 6: because when you say Jews do not deserve a homeland,
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  Speaker 6: when you say Palestine, free Palestine from the river to
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  Speaker 6: the sea, you are condemning the ten million Jews that
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  Speaker 6: live in Israel to death, and you are saying any
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  Speaker 6: other Jew around the world, you do not have the
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  Speaker 6: protection of your homeland anymore. And that is in itself antisemitic,
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  Speaker 6: and so these attacks it does feel like groundhog day.
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  Speaker 6: We have an antisemitism crisis in Australia and we're hearing
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  Speaker 6: all this talk from politicians, yet nothing is changing. And
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  Speaker 6: I fear that these people, these anti Semites, are being
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  Speaker 6: emboldened by a government that refuses to unequivocally back in
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  Speaker 6: Israel when they are Ana, when they vote against Israel
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  Speaker 6: in the UN, when they give their time to these
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  Speaker 6: Palestinian narratives. All they are doing is emboldening these anti
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  Speaker 6: Semites who want any reason to hate Jews.
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  Speaker 3: Jo Afrea is one hundred percent right. You couldn't say
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  Speaker 3: it better than myself, quite frankly. And the factor is
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  Speaker 3: eighty or ninety percent even of Jews are Zonus. So
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  Speaker 3: when people and in this case, I mean there wasn't
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  Speaker 3: even Zionus used as a code word.
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  Speaker 2: It was just blatant anti Semitism.
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  Speaker 3: But people know that they're attacking Jews when they make
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  Speaker 3: those sorts of remarks.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like saying I'm not anti Jesus, I
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  Speaker 1: just hate Christianity. Yeah. I think the problem here. I
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  Speaker 1: think there have always been anti Semmits Semites, and we
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  Speaker 1: has always been anti Semitis in Australia, and I've covered
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  Speaker 1: it in the past. Of the view it used to
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  Speaker 1: be restricted to white supremacists and neo Nazis and skinhead groups,
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  Speaker 1: the sort of people who stoked division during the Kernulla riots.
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  Speaker 1: And I've got to know some of them fairly well.
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  Speaker 1: They've got some pretty heavy chat rooms. But these guys
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  Speaker 1: have now found allies. They've found allies in politics. They've
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  Speaker 1: found allies in sort of shop front politics, if you like,
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  Speaker 1: instead of the sort of the dark web where they
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  Speaker 1: used to, you know, organize their little hate field barbecues
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  Speaker 1: where you bring a plate and talk about the Aryan
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  Speaker 1: race conquering all again and subjugating Jews for their blood libel.
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  Speaker 1: And they have found it in the extreme left. They
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  Speaker 1: have found it in a group of people, hardcore extremists,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they do not actually represent the mainstream left.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you'll see at the next election just
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  Speaker 1: how much this issue comes to buy it. But people
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  Speaker 1: who are throwing around words like genocide, which is most
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  Speaker 1: commonly associated with the Holocaust, which was the greatest genocide
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  Speaker 1: ever perpetuated in human history, and which would not have
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  Speaker 1: happened if there was a Jewish homeland, if there was
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  Speaker 1: an Israel in Nazi Germany and the Second World War.
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  Speaker 1: The fact, the reason why all those Jewish people were
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  Speaker 1: slaughtered throughout Eastern Europe in particular and Genesis, they had
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  Speaker 1: nowhere else to go. They had nowhere else to go.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you're a Christian, there are countries where
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  Speaker 1: you can go, where you can find refuge from people
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  Speaker 1: who share your faith. If you're a Muslim, the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: The Jews had nowhere to go.
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  Speaker 2: And so the thing I.
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  Speaker 3: Would take issue with what you've said, As you've said,
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  Speaker 3: it's people. They're not representative of the left. I would
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  Speaker 3: argue that, unfortunately it has. It does represent a lot
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  Speaker 3: of making perhaps not the heart, the heart the right,
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  Speaker 3: perhaps not your right.
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  Speaker 1: Fact the activist, the act. Certainly the activists left himself.
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  Speaker 3: He was caught on tape my colleague sharing marks and
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  Speaker 3: showed this on her program many times. He was caught
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  Speaker 3: on tape years ago at one of these from the
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  Speaker 3: River to the Sea protests, yelling into a megaphone, and
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  Speaker 3: his actions as Prime Minister has showed where his heart
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  Speaker 3: really lies. I mean, I do think a lot of
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  Speaker 3: it is domestic politics. At play and wanted to appease
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  Speaker 3: Western Sydney voters and others in high Muslim areas.
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  Speaker 2: But h electorates.
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  Speaker 3: But I also think it is at the heart of
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  Speaker 3: who he is and the fact that our Prime minister
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  Speaker 3: and Foreign Minister make these decisions that essentially reward terrorism
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  Speaker 3: that in terms of moving towards recognizing a Palestinian state,
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  Speaker 3: just further emboldened this type of disgusting anti Semitism that
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  Speaker 3: we're seeing.
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  Speaker 6: Definitely, and I think so labor at its core, not
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  Speaker 6: all of them. There are some great defenders of Israel
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  Speaker 6: in the Labor Party. I mean, and this is the thing.
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  Speaker 6: They're a dying breed of labor politician, they really are.
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  Speaker 6: There are far fewer labor politicians now that support Israel
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  Speaker 6: than there were a couple decades ago, and that probably
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  Speaker 6: is the ascension of the woke left in labor ranks.
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  Speaker 6: But I think the bigger challenge for Albanesi now is
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  Speaker 6: his core is anti Israel. But now he also has
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  Speaker 6: huge constituencies that are anti Israel because they are dominated
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  Speaker 6: by Muslims and so on. This synagogue was also written
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  Speaker 6: a la wakba, like, we can't ignore that fact. There
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  Speaker 6: is also Joe talks about white supremacist anti semitism, but
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  Speaker 6: we're seeing a rise in Islamic anti semitism as well,
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  Speaker 6: and so I think we need Muslim leaders to step
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  Speaker 6: up now and denounce this and say we don't support that.
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  Speaker 6: But I think there really does seem to be a
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  Speaker 6: vacuum of leadership in the Muslim community as well, and
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  Speaker 6: it's pushing labor further and further into this kind of
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  Speaker 6: corner where they have to appease huge communities, but those
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  Speaker 6: are the same community potentially supporting antism.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who committed this attack, obviously, but it
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  Speaker 3: did happen in a heavily Muslim area of southwest Sydney,
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  Speaker 3: and prays right, there were the words ala akba with
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  Speaker 3: Hitler on the same wall. We don't know who wrote them.
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  Speaker 3: But I think when our leaders like Anthony Albanizi talk
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  Speaker 3: about equating, they always mention anti Semitism in the same
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  Speaker 3: breath Islamia.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, and they are completely they are completely different things,
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  Speaker 1: because anti Semitism actually abscribes to an entire fake conspiracy
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  Speaker 1: theory about a kabbal of Jews running the world and
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  Speaker 1: protocols and design. When people say there's not a phibe
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  Speaker 1: that okay, fine, they don't like Muslims, but they like them.
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  Speaker 1: They don't like them for reasons that are you know
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  Speaker 1: here on earth.
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  Speaker 2: If you like that they I think that is much
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  Speaker 2: too widely.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, there have been attacks on Muslims which are horrendous,
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  Speaker 3: but so many much of the time the criticism might
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  Speaker 3: be about the ideology.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, but is that's right? So if you say,
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  Speaker 1: say someone's Islamophobic, maybe it's because someone's read the Koran
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  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of really weird, nasty stuff in there,
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  Speaker 1: and so they said, right, I don't like this, this
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  Speaker 1: this religion is violent or whatever, blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: But again, that's at least someone who has read the Quran.
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  Speaker 1: Anti Semitism is not caused by people who have read
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  Speaker 1: the Torah. It's caused by people who have read the
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  Speaker 1: protocols of the others desire, which is a completely fictitious
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  Speaker 1: that's right. It's like it's like being you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: like being anti Christian because you've read the Lord of
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  Speaker 1: the Rings and you think that's the Bible. Like it is.
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  Speaker 1: So again, it is different to other forms of all
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  Speaker 1: the forms of races have been prejudiced or whatever. Bad bad, bad,
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  Speaker 1: bad bad. But this is a particular form of prejudice
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  Speaker 1: that is extremely specific to one particular group. And it
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  Speaker 1: dates back not just to the Nazis and all their
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  Speaker 1: crazy stuff or to you know, Russia where there was
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff. There were broadcasts and fascist Spain about
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  Speaker 1: this sort of stuff and what the Jews are doing
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  Speaker 1: and how they lost the lost Germany World War One.
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  Speaker 1: It goes back to medieval times where you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was you know, Jews were having secret rituals where they
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  Speaker 1: would steal your babies and kill them. Okay, now again.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds very much like a Candaeo on podcast, But this
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  Speaker 3: is exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: Like so it is not that this is not just
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know, being anti Chinese or saying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we've got to shut the door, there's too many immigrants here.
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  Speaker 1: This is complete insanity of people who have cooked up
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  Speaker 1: this idea that there is a secret society of evil,
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  Speaker 1: subhuman reachers that are running the world. This is this
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  Speaker 1: was Hitler's thesis. This was his lesis we've seen you,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, and we see where at least, and it
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  Speaker 1: leads to swastikas in Muslim neighborhoods and Muslims thinking, oh,
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  Speaker 1: these Nazi guys, they hate Israel, we hate Israel. We're
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  Speaker 1: on the same side. And then left the extreme that's right,
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  Speaker 1: it's nuts, and the extreme left by using words like genocide,
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  Speaker 1: like apartheid, you are justifying that hatred and you are
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  Speaker 1: justifying that narrative of this evil group of people doing
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  Speaker 1: evil things because oh well, if it's genocide, then they're
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  Speaker 1: just as bad as the Nazis. Oh well, if it's
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  Speaker 1: apart they're just as bad as the white South Africans,
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  Speaker 1: the Africans, and so it. So when you know person X,
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  Speaker 1: whoever it may be, thinks, yeah, I'm going to go
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  Speaker 1: and paint some swastikas on a synagogue or I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to fire by the synagogue, they think they're doing the
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  Speaker 1: righteous thing because their actions have been legitimized by people
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  Speaker 1: on the activist left who are saying it's okay because
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  Speaker 1: Jews are the new Nazis, so whatever you do to
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  Speaker 1: them is okay. You're not a terrorist, you're a freedom fault.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I'm a curious agreement that there's a huge problem
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  Speaker 3: on the far left, but I think it goes beyond
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  Speaker 3: that and into our current government and mainstream problem is
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  Speaker 3: that because we've had we have people like Tony Burke
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  Speaker 3: and Ed Husick who skirt around the edges of that
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  Speaker 3: and may not use the words like bright eye, but
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  Speaker 3: they appears those people.
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  Speaker 1: What has happened in the Labor Party over recent years,
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately and tragically, if you care about it as much
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  Speaker 1: as I do, is that it has been always is
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  Speaker 1: the sort of most extreme and loudest activists will be
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  Speaker 1: the loudest voices in the room, because that's what they do, right.
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  Speaker 1: So they come in, they come, they take over some
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  Speaker 1: of the branches, some of the inner city branches, the
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  Speaker 1: left wing branches, and they're jumping up and down about Palestine,
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  Speaker 1: and so the party machine, which isn't actually all in
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  Speaker 1: on this stuff because they're far too sensible things all right,
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  Speaker 1: Just to shut them up, we'll change the wording on this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on this national conference place which labor governments
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  Speaker 1: ignore all the time, They never pay any attention to it,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter. This is something that's just been
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  Speaker 1: bubbling over. We'll just do this word and to shut
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  Speaker 1: them up. They'll then back aucust which is exactly what happened,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what we actually need them to do. Then
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  Speaker 1: something like October seven happens, and suddenly you're kind of
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  Speaker 1: caught in the headlights with your pants down, because just
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  Speaker 1: before this happened, you actually passed this motion that set
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  Speaker 1: the party just a little bit more against Israel, or
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  Speaker 1: at least that's percent. And so you've done something that
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  Speaker 1: you think is just a token thing to shut up
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  Speaker 1: these loudmouth activists who won't be quiet. But suddenly you've
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  Speaker 1: actually done something substantial without kind of meaning to it.
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  Speaker 1: And the problem is, and yes, it is true that
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  Speaker 1: the people on the right of the party who would
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  Speaker 1: normally be the most vocal supporters and the people who
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  Speaker 1: would stand up to these nutters are actually the ones
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  Speaker 1: in the suburbs with most of the Muslims. Because the
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  Speaker 1: people in the right of the Labor Party who represent
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  Speaker 1: the actual working class, who represent the actual sort of battlands.
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  Speaker 1: And then that's right, So you've got this. The problem
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  Speaker 1: is you've got this kind of and I think the
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  Speaker 1: Muslim voice thing. I think that will hopefully just fizzle
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  Speaker 1: out and die. But you do have this big problem
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  Speaker 1: where you know you've got all these horrendous affluent, tertiary
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  Speaker 1: educated inner city activist wankers who are shouting and jumping
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  Speaker 1: up and down, and the sensible people who had stopped
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  Speaker 1: them are the ones who've actually got the Muslims in
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  Speaker 1: their community, many of whom are suffering and have connections
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  Speaker 1: over there. But again, it is hard for them to
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  Speaker 1: kind to be as vocal as they probably should be
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  Speaker 1: or we would like them to be, because they're constituents
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  Speaker 1: who they're obliged to serve among the people who have
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  Speaker 1: family members and community members are so that is the
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  Speaker 1: whole problem.
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  Speaker 3: It goes beyond that when people like our Education Minister
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  Speaker 3: Jason Clair doesn't take action on Palestinian encampments where Jurish
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  Speaker 3: students and staff feeling harassed and are harassed because they're
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  Speaker 3: worried about their constituents and their seats.
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  Speaker 2: That's unacceptable.
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  Speaker 3: But look, let's move on to another very similar topic.
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  Speaker 3: Sadly and Victorian Police Minister Well he's blamed the cancelation
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  Speaker 3: of an ice hockey tournament in Melbourne for causing unnecessary
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  Speaker 3: alarm to the Jewish community. Ice Hockey Australia canceled the
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  Speaker 3: April event, which would have included an Israeli team.
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  Speaker 2: Citing safety and.
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  Speaker 3: Security concerns, Victorian Police Minister Anthony Carbines wrote to the
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  Speaker 3: Ice Hockey Australia President Ryan o'handley, warning, in the absence
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  Speaker 3: of specific advice, that there was a threat to your event.
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  Speaker 2: I believe your actions have caused unnecessary alarm in the
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  Speaker 2: Jewish community.
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  Speaker 3: It is not acceptable to throw in the towel just
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  Speaker 3: because people might protest the participation of Israeli athletes.
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  Speaker 2: Freyer, I was.
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  Speaker 3: Actually heartened by the statement, and it came from a
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  Speaker 3: Victorian labor minister, which I feel that they have not
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  Speaker 3: been strong enough there, in particular in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: But look, it doesn't even seem.
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  Speaker 3: Like this was the case where the organizers of the
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  Speaker 3: event were capitulating to protesters.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like there was no actual threat and that.
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  Speaker 3: They just jumped the gun thinking that they would preempt
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  Speaker 3: any sort of possible hatred.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a terrible precedent to search.
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  Speaker 6: It does seem very strange and where does that leave
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  Speaker 6: Israel in the world sporting stage. I mean, we did
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  Speaker 6: see what happened in Amsterdam, the Netherlands a couple of
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  Speaker 6: months ago. It was like a full scale twenty first
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  Speaker 6: century pogram of Israeli football fans, and so I understand
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  Speaker 6: why these sporting codes would be very cautious around how
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  Speaker 6: Israeli's participate in sport. But the answer is to up
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  Speaker 6: the security and say stuff, you we're going to have
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  Speaker 6: israel participate. The answers are say, oh, okay, we're just
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  Speaker 6: not going to We're just going to cancel the whole
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  Speaker 6: event like it is extremely weak. But then on the
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  Speaker 6: other hand, I do I mean, I don't think we
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  Speaker 6: can fully absolve this minister or the Labor government of
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  Speaker 6: responsibility because the fact that any sporting is asociation is
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  Speaker 6: even considering that they have to ban a competition where
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  Speaker 6: Israeli's a present because of security and safety in Australia
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  Speaker 6: in the twenty first century. I think that is an
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  Speaker 6: embarrassment and a national shame.
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  Speaker 5: And we've seen this.
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  Speaker 6: Israeli's are scared to come to Australia as tourists. Jews
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  Speaker 6: are being harassed when they're here on holidays like that
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  Speaker 6: is crazy and we should all be a shame that
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  Speaker 6: we've let that happen in this country. Having said that,
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  Speaker 6: the answer is not to cancel everything. The answer is
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  Speaker 6: to double down and stand up to the protesters. But
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  Speaker 6: maybe if the government had done that, like fourteen months ago,
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  Speaker 6: we wouldn't be in this position.
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  Speaker 2: A very good point. The Victorian government has helped set
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  Speaker 2: the sne exact.
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  Speaker 3: Organizers feel that they have to do this, So you're absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Right, although I'm calling absolute bollocks on this. The idea
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  Speaker 1: that the organ we have to do this for the
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  Speaker 1: safety of the Jewish actually one booth. This is the
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  Speaker 1: excuse that people use to advance cancel culture every single time.
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  Speaker 1: It is excuse they use to capitulate to extremists because
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  Speaker 1: they are either scared or because they are secretly on
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  Speaker 1: their side. What was the excuse that you know they
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  Speaker 1: use at Sydney UNI when the academics were attacked by
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  Speaker 1: all those protesters. We had to barricade them. We had
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  Speaker 1: to lock them in a room for their own safety,
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  Speaker 1: because of course we couldn't actually stop all these feral protesters.
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  Speaker 2: And tell them is academicsctly.
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  Speaker 1: They had to lock them. They had to lock them
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  Speaker 1: in their for their own safety. What happens every time
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  Speaker 1: someone controversial is invited to speak, and you know, there's
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: a venue set up and suddenly the venue says, oh sorry,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: we had to cancel whoever it was, Milly and novels.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Whoever it might be controversial their own safety.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Controversial right now means being Israeli or even justly. I
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: covered a number of stories this year on Sky News
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: in which comedians even were canceled that were just because
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: they were Israeli from a venue, shovel Cinemas to name it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Australian University made a very surprising decision last year to
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: cancel a talk They said it was postponing it, but
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: they hadn't set the new date yet with an Israeli
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: academic who had actually worked on bone fragments from October
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: seven because they thought it would be too controversial at
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: the Australian Catholic University.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: But this is the whole problem. We have a mob
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: that wants to shut down silence and use coersion, whether
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: that's through targeting businesses, institutions, violent protests, and they want
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: to shut down Jews. That is what happened in the
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: nineteen thirties in Germany and that is what is happening
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: in Australia today. This is how it starts boycotting, targeting
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: the religious institutions, targeting schools, boycotting businesses.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Making campuses unsafe.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: This is the exact playbook that was followed in the
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: nineteen thirty and it is happening again in Australia today.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: And unless our government and our politicians stand up to
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: this and take real action to shut down these protesters,
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: they are complicit. Anything other than total action is complicity
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: and is allowing anti Semitism to flourish.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Right, and you talk about nine thirds and talking about
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the very specific kind of prejudice that people have against
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Jews that they would never tolerate against any other ethnic,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: eth no religious group. Imagine if the US government, Imagine
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: if the US Olympics team had said to Jesse Owens said, look, Jesse,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you're probably want to sit the Berlin Olympics out mate
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: with the furor. Don't worry. We're not on Hitler's side,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: but we just can't guarantee your safety. Just imagine that
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: conversation taking place, and again he comes over. He shows
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the Nazis just what their superman theory really means, and
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: it stands up to them. But that could just as
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: easily that no athlete less safe in human history than
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: less Owens until of course Munich got great history. Germany does.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: But again, imagine if someone had actually said that. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: imagine if someone had said to the Munich athletes, the
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Jewish athletes at Munich, the Israeli athletes at Music so, oh, well, yeah,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: they probably shouldn't have come because you know, we couldn't
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: keep themself, Like, is that really what we're doing now?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: No one would believe it would be possible, And yet
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: there's such a different standard applied when it does come
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: to the Jewish community.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Look, let's move on to the Californian wildfires because it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: still such a huge story and they have now claimed
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: at least ten lives and burned more than twenty seven
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: thousand acres. But already the focus has turned on who
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: to blame, and Hollywood celebrities are fast turning on the
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Los Angeles mayor and the liberal governor, Gavin Newsome. Buffy
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: star Sarah Michelle Gella tagged the mayor in a post, reading,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: City of LA you want everyone to evacuate, yet you
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: have complete gridlock and not one traffic cop on the
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: roads helping, while actress Sarah Foster wrote the Mayor of
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: LA and Gavin Newsome, resign. Your far left policies have
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: ruined our state and also our party. And celebrity trainer
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Jillian Michaels wrote, leadership in California is beyond negligent. This
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: is completely unacceptable. It's funny, isn't it. Hollywood A leaders
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: that usually the ones lecturing the rest of us with
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: their liberal politics and progressive attitudes.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: But the minute it's.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Their own homes being compromised, everything changes.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Freya, that's so true.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, maybe this will finally be the thing that
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: swings California back to the Republicans. I'm not sure. I
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: think this might be their moment where they all wake
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: up and realize actually being run by a bunch of
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: woke leftist idiots is a recipe for disaster. But having
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: said that, the celebrities are right in a sense that
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: these fires are the result of complete government negligence. When
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Gavin Newsom got elected as governor in twenty nineteen, on
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: his first day of taking office, he promised to tackle
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: the bush fires. He was gonna He's really going to
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: tackle the wildfire crisis. Well, what has he done over
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: the last five years? He cut the bush the wildfire
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: prevention funding by one hundred and fifty million dollars. That
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: doesn't sound like the kind of action someone who's ready
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: to tackle the wildfires would take that. And then when
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: he was asked about how much backburning they'd done, and
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: this was before the fires, he overquote, he overestimated the
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: amount of backburning by six hundred and ninety percent.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: How do you get that wrong? So clearly they're living
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: in laala land.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: They're too focused on the diversity of the firefighters to
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: worry about the actual fires. But it is ridiculous, and
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: it is embarrassing for California.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. And again it's just how quickly something turns.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: How quickly a group of people turned when suddenly a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: problem that was on someone else's doorstep that they were
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: jumping up and down about is suddenly right on their doorstep.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And you have all these people say, suddenly, your far
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: left liberal polsies like, yeah, you are ruining California and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you are ruining the Democratic Party. Thank you very much, Sarah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But how many.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Were in college?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Where where you were there? Where were you five years ago?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Stood up at awards ceremonies and preached to the rest
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: of us and demonized people who supported at.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Least George Cloy helped get rid of by it. I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: don't know what the rest of them do, but again
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it is, it is absolutely astonishing. Hopefully it will be
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a wake up call, but again it is. It is like,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know that the height of it, like the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: kind of like on now you're up. Now that your
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: mansion in Pacific Palisades has burnt down because of this
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: incompetence that everyone else had seen for years and was
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: jumping up and down about for years. This is now
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: now now that it's your house that's on the line.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Now you're upsets.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: You think that'd be able to put themselves in people's
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: shoes a little bit better anyway, Look, it's it's not
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: just celebrities who are red hot with anger at California leaders.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Check out this clip and watch what happened when the
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Californian governor was confronted about the fires.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Governor, I live here, Governor, that was my daughter's school.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Governor, please tell me what you're gonna do, but I'm
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: not gonna hurt on my promise.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: I'm literally talking to the President right now to specifically
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: answer the question of what we can do for you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And your daughter.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Can I hear it? Can I hear your call? Because
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I don't believe it.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, there's literally I've tried five times.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm walking around to me.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Why is the president not taking your call?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Because it's not going through? Why I have to get
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: self service?
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: So let's get it, let's get it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I want to be here when you call the president.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I appreciate I'm doing that right now.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Why was there no water in the hydrants? Governor?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: That's all?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Literally?
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Is it going to be different next time?
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: It has to be To get her on the Sky
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: News reporting team go on an excellent what we call
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: bounce in the industry. Look, Freyer, California has the highest
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: taxes in the US, and its leaders, as you heard
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: that still can't ensure that the fire hydrants have enough
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: water in order to address an actual emergency. I mean,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: why are people paying such high taxes? This should be
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: a government's and a county's number one priority is keeping
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: people safe.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: They're paying the highest taxes for third world infrastructure in
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: what like imagine if Australia we're in the peak of
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: bush fire seasons, the half the country's burning, and we
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: go to our fire hydrants and there's just nothing coming out,
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Like the fighters don't even have enough water, and there
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: are a whole bunch of other issues with the water
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: pressure up being high enough reservoirs. There is literally not
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: enough water to fight these fires. And part of that
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: has been because people within the government, within the Democrats,
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: have been on about environmental conservation and we've got to
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: save the fish, and so they haven't been topping up
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: the reservoirs. They haven't been building new reservoirs. There is
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: like a forty year delay in the pipeline of new
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: dams that are yet to be constructed, and so what
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: do you expect to happen? Finally, the poor decisions of
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: a misguided, woke government are catching up to them and
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: it's too little, too late, and all this stuff. Oh literally,
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: I'm on the phone with the president right now.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: It's like, come on.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: And then when he comes on, he wasn't literally.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: On the it's just here, I'm on the phone to
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the president because I've got that reception. If I did,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: he fully would have answered.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: He was really caught also, and that's.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Why I'm walking around. You're getting into a van, mate,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You're getting into a car, Like, clearly you weren't just
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: wandering around. You're walking away from the lady who was
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: chasing you, and you had your guy and you're about
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to get into the car. So again it just oh something.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: She caught him out completely red handed.
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: There.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Look.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, an old tweet from the La mayor has come
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: back to haunt her. Karen Vass was in Ghana when
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: the fires broke out, but awkwardly, she'd attacked another leader
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: for being out of the country during a natural disaster.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: She wrote, Ted Cruz fleeing Texas in the middle of
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: a deadly crisis is part of a larger pattern of
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: the GOP abandoning folks in a crisis. We need to
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: build a movement to kick them all out. Joe and fairness.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: She did come back when the fire started, while Ted
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Cruz left in the middle of a winter storm, and
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I think she.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Had That's right, and she had left before that, she
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: had left before down. But yeah, again, no, that's right.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And that is why I was criticized, you know, by
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: my own beloved bosses, not at this network obviously, but
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: for not going harder against or not going hard at
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: all against Scott Morrison when he went to Hawaii. On hold,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you just wait and see and and sure enough,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you know, every single other person, every single other politician
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: who happens to be anywhere but the middle of ground
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: zero when there's any kind of disaster, is going to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: get the same treatment. And you can bet your bottom
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: dollar that if they were political opportunists, and if they
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: were going for the lazy personal kicks, that they would
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: have been right up there slagging off Scott Morrison because
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: he took a holiday.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: And so you know, I think the difference here is
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: that she's she's a target because she cut the budget.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Is that the hydrants were empty, that she cut the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: budget for the fight. Now, look again, I have been
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: in many budget lockups. I know that savings have to
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: be made, but I, for the life of me, cannot
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: think if you were going through every single agency, in
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: every single department, line by line, thinking right where can
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I cut costs? I would think that the fire department
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: would probably be last on the list. That is the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: last place you want to cut corner. See if you
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: could find a few savings, do we really need all
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that water? Come on, we haven't had a fire for
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: like three.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: But the worst part of it is she cuts seventeen
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: and a half million dollars from the California from the
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: budget for fire department, but she gave it to homelessness programs,
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: a homelessness crisis that the Democrats have allowed to flourish.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: If you go around the streets of la like, homeless
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: people are everywhere. They have a drug crisis, they have
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: a crime crisis, homelessness crisis because law and order is
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: breaking down in Democrat controlled California. So she's stripped the
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: money on.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: A Pacific pal size and communities.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: From a fire budget to give it to the homelessness
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: crisis that her administration has caused. And now she's freaking out.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Oh this was all just climate change in the wind, like,
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: come on, come.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: On, now here is one hot take to the wildfires
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: that no one saw coming. Former New South Wales Australian
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: of the Year dang Adut has made a series of
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: disturbing social media posts celebrating the.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Disaster, calling the destruction of the US.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: And declaring his support for Hamas he posted yesterday, I
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: am glad the weather forecast is hell for you. I
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: hope you burn burning children in Gaza. Why shouldn't I
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: celebrate you being burnt by godfire. The post follows several
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: other concerning comments that Dang made on social media last year,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: including I am now a pro Russian and Hamas until
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: the day I die.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I am Hamas now look fray.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: This is obviously quite alarming coming from someone who only
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen was being recognized as such an upstanding
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: member of the community that he was our estate here
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: in New South Wales's nomination for Australian of the Year
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: and our pick.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's behind this.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: I sense that these posts is so unhinged that there
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: might be something else going on here, but clearly it's
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: it needs to be called out.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: I hope this guy has had a mental breakdown, because
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: anything short of a complete mental breakdown does like this.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: This is just absolutely inexcusable to say I am her
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: Mass now you know what her Mass does.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: You know what they do?
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: They pro gay people off buildings, They rape women, they
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: murder babies, they kidnap people, innocent people and babies.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: They burn people.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: Yes, exactly exactly, so to say I am her Mass
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: now I support Hermas and Russia until the day I die.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: What the heck, and then to wish death upon innocent
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Americans just because they're Americans. And by the way, why
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: are you hating America, the leader of the free world,
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: the country that is going to restore peace to the
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: Middle East because they're actually strong on foreign policy? Like
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: this is so unhinged that I hope he's had a
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: mental breakdown, because I can't possibly comprehend this post if
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: he actually is in his right mind, that is very
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: deeply concerning. And surely his new South Wales Citizen of
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: the Year has to be stripped from him off the
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: back of this.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: What do you think does it need to be shipped?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think all these gongs and
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you know, who should get him? Who should strip him?
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think that's almost sort of
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: neither here nor there. I think I think Freyer is right,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and I think clearly this is unhinged stuff. But again,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you know, and I think and hope, well, I do
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: hope this is a result of some kind of metal
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: breakdown and not things that he's actually thought about and think.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: But again, it just proves it so so many times
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: again and again and again and again. He hasn't had
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: a complete metal breakdown and then just started spouting his
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: own unique theology that has just sort of erupted from
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: his head. You know, he hasn't started just coming up
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: with random stuff. He's not. He's not, you know, he's
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: not doing kind of random word association. You know Kat
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Pompomer's typewriter. He is repeating almost verbatim, the same tropes
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and the same talking points that are parroted by the
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: extreme left and the extreme right, because guess what, they
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: all join up. That's why, you know, Nazis in the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Greens both want to eliminate Israel. And he's just spouting
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: all this stuff. And that is what happens when you
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: have people out there who are fueling these kinds of
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: narratives and talking about, you know, the US is backing
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: a genocidal monster in Israel and children are being killed
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and this is the only thing
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: that matters. And you know, you strip away all the context,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: strip away all the history, and you just go on
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and about this and you get hysterical about it. And
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: if someone is susceptible, and if someone is one of
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: those people who is mentally susceptible to ideas or is
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: having a breakdown, or something's gone terribly wrong and they're
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: looking for some kind of something to cling to, something
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to give their life meaning, or something to create understanding
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: in the world, which is often what happens when people
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: having mental breakdown. You're sort of at sea and you're
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: almost like trying to grab onto a life jacket. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: this is the sort of bollocks stuff that hard left
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and hard right activists construct that people then just seize upon,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: and that these are the sort of people not dang
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: God willing, but you know again, these are the sort
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: of thing that loaners, you know, people who iss target
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: people who you know, something's gone horrendously wrong in their lives.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe their wife's left them, or maybe they're trying to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: prove themselves they're a tough guy to the gang that
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: they just joined or whatever it is, or maybe they're
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: just losers who can't get a girlfriend and they're going
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: to think I'm going to show them. These are the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: profiles of people who become loan with terrorists, and these
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: are the people who Isis deliberately target and they target
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: it the.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Expected kind of.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Recall God he has to have, like.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: There's no way he can continue to hold the title
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: of New South Wales Australian of the Year, while saying
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: he supports a terrorist organization. He also said he could
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: thrash Dutton and Albanese in hand to hand combat, Like
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: what if.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: He's still working as a lawyer. I think perhaps that
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: needs to be looked at.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Would probably be saying I think your I might want
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: to change representation.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Well perhaps, but look, I unfortunately have seen quite a
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: bit of this commentary around the past couple of days
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: online which is as sewer as we know most of
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: the time. You know, this idea that this is somehow
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: revenge this natural disaster. But what's been happening in the
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Middle East which is very disturbing, But these people exist
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: out there. Look, let's move back closer to domestic politics now,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: and Peter Dutton has hit backer claims by Anthony Albanezi
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: that he, not the opposition leader, would be better placed
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: at forging a productive relationship with Donald Trump Now. Mister
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Dutton has called the comments comical. He's pointed to I
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: call them delusional.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Last time he's pointed awesome.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Pointed to the labor governments split with its US ally
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: over Israel and the PM's past statement that he was
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: scared of mister Trumpeter dun And said, it's comical for
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: him to now say trust me with the US relationship
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: when his own government has split with the USA on
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: key votes at the UN, and we've seen little evidence
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: of him engaging and influencing the incoming Trump administration in
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: the national interest, which is a real concern.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Afraya, I mean, I think it's really not a.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Hard peak of who Trump would get on better with.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think Dunin or alban Izy?
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Is that even a question? I mean, it's so embarrassing.
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: Who which media advisor Let Albo say that he was
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: better placed to handle Trump, because it is embarrassing. He
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: has abandoned the US in the in the UN, He's
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: now siding with dictatorships and people who hate the Western
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: world because he is misguided on Israel. It is completely
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: fascical to suggest that he would be better.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: At handling Trump.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Trump respects stray, he respects conviction, and he respects conservative values.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: And he only doesn't respect people Joe who've also had
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: to go at him in the well.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Again, Trump is very magnanimous, it is very forgiving, and
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: there are that many people like I love Trump now.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I just think he's amazing to watch. But you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: certainly I would have said things in the past that
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: were saying that Donald Trump's incredibly dangerous, or he is deluded,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: or you know, because if you take.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: That, you're not a world leader, You're not an Australian leader.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Trying to work.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I'm very influential, very influential Sky News contributor. But again
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and again JD. Vance said, you know, like a lot
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: of people first time around with Trump, nobody saw it coming.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Everyone thought the sky would fall in. It didn't, and
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: everyone thought, actually, maybe he's got a point. And also,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, and this is the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: camp I fall into, saw that the reaction to Trump
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: was so hysterical and so ridiculous, and there were elements
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: of the American left that were so completely nuts that
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: in a way you needed someone like Trump to either
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a keep them in line or just keep the kick
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: of the nuts. Because it looks like so much fib Yeah.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: It does look low fun coming up.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Australia's top diplomat in the UK backtracks on plans to
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: ditch Australia Day and Walid Ali declares woke is dead.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: That's next welcome back. Well.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: The Australian High Commissioner to the UK has backflipped on
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: plans to snub Australia Day, hours after Peter Dutton said
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: if he was ashamed of our National Day, he should
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: get on the next plane home. Stephen Smith will now
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: attend the lavish Australia Day gala dinner in London on
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: January twenty five, though his plans for the day itself
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: are still unclear. Free you literally have one job as
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: a diplomat, and that's to represent your country. It's not
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: to be divisive, it's not to be highly political. Why
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: on earth did it take our opposition leader for this
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: guy to make a decision that should just be common sense.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: Exactly, you're not there to represent yourself. You're there to
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: represent Australia. It's not about your personal views on Australia Day.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: What is the National Day? That's the question. It's January
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: twenty sixth Okay, you go to the gala then, like
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: that's the end of discussion. I think it's just embarrassing.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: And this was, keep in mind, a political appointment by
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: Albanezi and so clearly he's just rewarding one of his
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: woke left wing friends. And also my other problem with this,
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: it's clearly this guy is living in La La Land
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: and didn't get the message that woke died back when
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: Trump got elected. And we've seen Woolly's backflip on boycotting
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: Australia Day. We've seen Australia Venue Co, who have hundreds
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: of pubs, they backflipped on the boycott as well.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: We saw sixty five percent of Australians jove bot No,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: we had the referendum against this kind of identity politic.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: This is amazing. So Savid Smith is a leading figure
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: of the West Australian right. So it's not Albo's. It's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Albo who's on the left.
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I made that he's now a very sensible centrist.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: You're alone.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: It is a lonely position. I hold it nonetheless. But
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: this is just so funny. So the quote that the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: statement just makes no sense whatsoever. Right the statement they've
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: explained having oh yeah, oh no, we haven't backflipped at all.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: But he says, quote, the High Commissioner has now been
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: able to rearrange official travel plans in order to attend
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the Australia Day Gala dinner on Saturday, twenty fifth of January.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: It's getting closer for the purpose of delivering a personal
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: message from the Prime Minister to the dinner.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I'm glad he could find time as well.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Should just say, given that clearly Albo has delivered Steven
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Smith a personal message that he now has to stay
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: in London to deliver on Australia Day, I'm pretty sure
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: that personal message was something along the times. Sorry you're
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: doing so what's that? Oh you are staying in London frustruction?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah I thought so, mate, Yeah, thank you very much.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Just it's but again his we still don't know what
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: he's doing on the actual day itself.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: They're not opening the hike.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: No, it's a Sunday and so that's it's a matter
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: so what. But this is the thing. So they're saying
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: that they couldn't do it on the Sunday in London
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: because there weren't that many people around. It's just it's
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: a city of twenty million people, like it's a global
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: it doesn't no Sunday training. It's like maybe he thinks it's.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Perse I think exactly.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe he thinks he's still there now you know woke
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: is really dead when even Walid Ali declares it to
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: be so. The Project co host, who once described terrorism
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: as a mere irritant, has penned a piece for Nine
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Papers in which he muses about whether twenty twenty four
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: was the year woke politics finally died. And to that
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: I say, yes, it was an amen and about bloody
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: time prayer exactly.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: Ah, it is about time. But my favorite thing about
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: this article. Firstly, it was almost incomprehensible. It felt like
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: I was reading a second year arts paper at university
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: head Sorry, we'll lead. And my second issue with it
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: was he didn't actually get to the point of declaring
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: whether it was dead. He mused, this is he said,
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: it's too messy a debate with too many fuzzy terms
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: for me to.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Enter here in full.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: So he doesn't want to actually enter the debate terms. Well,
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: what is he confused about? He can come on Sky
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: we can clarify it for him, because it's pretty simple.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: People do not want left wing politics shoved down their
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: throat twenty four to seven. And then he drew this
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: analogy with Midnight Oil being this like cool rebellious band
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: that even John Howard likes. The difference between midnight oil
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: in the eighties and woke politics today is that woke
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: is the establishment position now. It is no longer the
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: cool counterculture. It is the establishment that has shoved down
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: your throat being conservative. We are the cool counter culture
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: and we're based were theysed.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: You can't join the court.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I knew this. I knew this time would come. You
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: can't say I am the establishment.
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: No.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Look, I think my leaders has come to the party,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and you know, a little bit later than some of us,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: but it's you know, like there is absolutely no question.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: And having spoken to a lot of people, like you
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: talk about the Labor Party, so like I speak to
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of people in the Law part I'm not
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: technically a member myself, but obviously do love it. But
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and there were just all these people who hated what
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: was going on, hated identity politics, and they all it
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: sounds like we sort of were like sort of AA
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: were like a sort of secret support group for each other.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: But everyone sort of thought they were alive. And I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: was going around saying, this is ridiculous. If we carry on,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you know, they they so I'm an objective journalist, but
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: if the party carries online this and I was seeing
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: all these alarming signs and the sort of stuff that
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: was doing online and coud campaign, you know, but and
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: you're never going to get elected again? What are you doing?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: And there were all these people I spoke to, Yes,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: we've been saying the exact same thing, or we thought
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the exact same thing, but we were scared to say
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: anything because people would accuse us of be you know whatever, transphobic,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you know whatever, the islamophobeic, whatever the latest thing is.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And then you see with someone like
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: this is before Chrismins became premier, and obviously I thought
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: that was one of the changes that absolutely it became
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: leader of the party, which is obviously something that I
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: thought absolutely needed to happen, and a lot of people
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: in the party did and that did happen. And just
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: look at the results, like, just look at how people,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: mainstream people, even conservatives, embrace a sensible, centered labor leader
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: and seeing his praises, he's got conservatives singing the praises
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: of Christians, including he has been compared to anyone who
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: has a whiff.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Of what It's pretty low by I have to say,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: but he has been quite.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Okay all of the album You Found Girl.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Video of Donald Trump chatting and laughing with Barack Obama
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: has been going viral online as the political foes appeared
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: to get on famously at the funeral of former President
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: What were you talking to Barack Obama about him?
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: It did look very friendly. I must say we had
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: a little different philosophies, right, but we probably do.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: We just got along, but I got along with just
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: about everybody, and that we you know, we met backstages,
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: you know, before we went on, and I thought it
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: was a beautiful service. But we all got along very well.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: My favorite part is when Kamala Harris turned around and glad,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: and then she turned back and Barack Obama seemed to
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: be waiting for her to turn back before he continued Chuckley.
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah no, And she didn't even acknowledge Biden when he
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: walked in. It was just like blank stairs ahead. And
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: you know what, this is what America needs. This is healing,
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: This is unity.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: This is so good.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Jo I just I love Barack Obama. I think he
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: is the cream of the Democrat crop. And this just
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: proves that he was incredibly gracious when he handed over
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: power to Donald Trump in twenty sixteen. He was, of
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: course one of the leading figures who was saying, we
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: have got to get rid of Biden, and frankly, we've
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: got to get rid of Kamela too. Obviously, I think
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Michelle was that his pick biased, but again, he is
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: one of the very few sort of sensible people at
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the top of the Democratic It's.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Nice to see them getting on so well.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: And that was really boring, Fay.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: It was a bit boring, and in the fact that
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Trump is not the enemy to democracy that Barack Obama
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: and so many in the party seem to make him
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: out to be.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Clearly if they can get on so well.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Look, coming up, the Late Debate goes International, the segment
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: that picked the interest of Late night host Stephen Colbert.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Stay tuned, Welcome back.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: If you watched it this week's Late Show with Stephen Colbert,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: you may have recognized the opening of the program. Kim
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Jong un has further asserted his authority over North Korea
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: by banning hot dogs.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: The leader claimed the humble snag.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Is too western.
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: Greetings comrades, today, I am outlining the imperialist meat tubes
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: film as hot dogs. They are a culinary tool of
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: the American capitalist stooges.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Plus, why is it that hot.
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: Dogs come in packs of eat and hot dog buns
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: come in packs of.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Tent comedy gold? There there was a lot more of it.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: I recommend you go back and look it up. I mean, Joe,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I know you're a little bit jealous that you didn't.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I just can't believe the one night I'm not on
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the show and you end up on Stephen Colbert, because
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and the worst part about it, that's right, you would
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: have made the funniest thing on Stephen Colbert. I can
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: tell you that for a seat.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Now, finally, before we go, The Australian newspaper has been
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: nominating its own contenders for Australian of the Year, and
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: today's nominee is the Voice himself, John Farnham, for his
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: visceral honesty in recounting the abuses overcome and for being
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: a part of Australia's musical history. Freyer, do you have
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: a nomination for Australian of the Year, to not to
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: put you on the spot already?
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: Mine would probably be Nathaniel Bezolich.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: I believe he's.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Been on Sky I did the first interview.
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: Yes, Vampire Diaries actor has millions of followers on Instagram
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: and post October seven, he spent like six months in Israel.
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: He was documenting everything on the ground and now he's
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: used his platform of millions to his own personal detriment
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: to spread awareness about antisemitism, to stand up for Israel,
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: and I think he is a shining light that we need.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Received so many death threats, yeah, process and still stood
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: from Joe.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: How about you? And you can't say.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Yourself oh in that case. The one the people that
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: get me to tear all the time is I do
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Vini's staff and I do salos, and every time they
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: bring together, they bring out someone who is usually a
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: homeless person who they've helped, and almost invariably they then
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: go on to become a volunteer and to help others.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: And every single time I end up just bawling my
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: eyes out and so iry to tear up. It's talking
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: about it. So it would just be one of them,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: one of those ordinary people who've never ever heard of,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: who just does it.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: They're the ones who deserve it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Mine would be Inspector Amy Scott. She rushed and stopped
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: the Bondo Junction attacker in his wake of terror.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Now that's it for tonight.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Coming up next is The Royal Report with Caroline de
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Bruce sookernight