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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, October 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. It is Thursday October.
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Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour and now Jim Henson's inspiration
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Speaker 1: behind the Cookie Monster. J P. Welcome in Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: Hour on this Thursday ahead of the week's seven match
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Speaker 1: up the Jaguars in the Cincinnati Bengals at Paul Brown Stadium.
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Speaker 1: J P, Shadrick, Jeff Flaghman, Leon Searcy, what's up, big goodly,
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Speaker 1: welcome back, good to see what's up blogs? What do
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Speaker 1: you got? Speaking of cookie monster, this guy's got one
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Speaker 1: on the table. I had one bite. How many do
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Speaker 1: you have? Zero? You didn't have any? Last? Too bad?
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Speaker 1: I got the last one. You're eating them at last.
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Speaker 1: That's too bad. You treat me right. I might give
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Speaker 1: you a little crumb, baby. We'll see how this show two.
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Speaker 1: Here you go. Hey, By the way, I got it
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Speaker 1: real quick. I gotta I gotta admit something here and
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Speaker 1: I did it earlier in a week, but I must
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Speaker 1: do it again. The Hurricanes were We're really good last
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Speaker 1: Friday night. And as promised, Leon seriously is gonna get
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Speaker 1: a bottle of booze from me? Beautiful? And uh I
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Speaker 1: said it before I just want to admit it again,
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Speaker 1: the Hurricanes were better, much better than the Cavalier's Boy.
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Speaker 1: That was evident on the TV screen. So you're saying that,
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's fine, but thank you. I appreciate the
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Speaker 1: bullet bourbon though You're you will be very welcome, appreciate,
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Speaker 1: And I'm hoping Calais has forgot that. I gotta wear
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Speaker 1: a you shirt tonight for all the television. Yea, I
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Speaker 1: will follow him to make sure. I'm hoping to forgot
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Speaker 1: writing checks to your rear and can't cash. If he
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Speaker 1: gives me one of his shirts, it's not gonna fit. True. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's true. Where here's what's coming up on the show.
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Speaker 1: Of course Ramsey reaction. Well, who here from some of
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Speaker 1: the guys in the locker room and get some statements
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Speaker 1: from the owner and the e v P of Football Ops.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars offense. Can they bounce back defensive takeaways? They
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Speaker 1: didn't have any last week? They only have one on
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Speaker 1: defense all year. An FC South preview on Thursday Night Football.
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Speaker 1: That's all coming up. Let's get to the reaction after
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Speaker 1: the trade of Jalen Ramsey to the Los Angeles Rams.
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Speaker 1: The locker room open yesterday for the first time since then.
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Speaker 1: Miles Jack had a few things to say. I was
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Speaker 1: getting the massage watching Black Mirror, and uh, the notification
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Speaker 1: came up on my phone. I thought it was a
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Speaker 1: joke and then I like went through Twitter and saying
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Speaker 1: it was for real, and like me, I wouldn't to
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Speaker 1: have like happy about it because that's my teammate. Like
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Speaker 1: I feel like Jayalen is one of the better defense
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Speaker 1: as the players in the league, if not in the league.
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Speaker 1: So um, I definitely love playing with them, but um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I wish him nothing but the best. But I didn't
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Speaker 1: want it. I didn't want to see him though. Now
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Speaker 1: let's here, let's keep it on the defensive side. A J.
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Speaker 1: Boyer the cornerback on the other side. He's really now
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Speaker 1: the only player left that started in the in the secondary.
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Speaker 1: I got the news last night. I text him immediately.
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Speaker 1: You know, um, you know you wish that he was
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Speaker 1: still here, but it's a great opportunity for him as
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Speaker 1: an individual. So um, you know, I wish him nothing
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Speaker 1: but the best. I told him that, you know, he
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Speaker 1: wished the best for me too, So you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: still the last one here from seventeen me and uh
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Speaker 1: dub so, uh, you know, we just gotta keep pushing forward.
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Speaker 1: Dubble is Jared Wilson, who's now starting for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: But those are the only two guys left in the secondary.
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of that kind of tone in
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Speaker 1: the locker room. Nobody came out and bashed Jalen. It
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Speaker 1: was all kind of moving ahead and glad for him,
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Speaker 1: and now you can move forward as a team. What
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Speaker 1: do you think bellis, Uh, you can do his laugh Huh. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of the players are
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Speaker 1: are glad that that it's over with and probably don't
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Speaker 1: feel any need to take parting shots. I think one
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Speaker 1: of the disappointing things that you hear, you know, Miles
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Speaker 1: Jack and maybe he's just being nice, but he's talking
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Speaker 1: about you know, a teammate of mine. Uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: they hate to see him go. Well, I hate to
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Speaker 1: see teammates not want to play because of some type
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Speaker 1: of disrespect from an executive level employee. And I was
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Speaker 1: preparing for this game this week and I came across
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Speaker 1: a quote by B. W. Webb, who happens to be
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Speaker 1: the starting nickelback for the Cincinnati Bengals, who broke his
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Speaker 1: arm in Week two, missed the following week and then
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Speaker 1: came right back and started playing with a cast on
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Speaker 1: his arm. And he said this, I'm counting on them,
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Speaker 1: talking about his teammates, I'm counting on them just like
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Speaker 1: they're counting on me. It's a no brainer that I
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Speaker 1: should play. It's a little different then what we've heard
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Speaker 1: around here. Yeah, it's a little different here. Here's the
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Speaker 1: truth about You're crazy if you think that those guys
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Speaker 1: in the locker room didn't know what Jenny want to
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Speaker 1: get about. Here. Guys in the locker room talk. We're
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Speaker 1: not talking to lot. You may not talking to locker room,
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Speaker 1: but outside the locker room. It had to be some
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Speaker 1: merit that Jalen was telling somebody on this team that
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Speaker 1: he was trying to get up out of here. Now,
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Speaker 1: the method in which he used to get up out
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Speaker 1: of here he probably didn't display. But when that confrontation
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Speaker 1: with Tom Coughland happened, Allegedly after Houston, Jalen talked to
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Speaker 1: somebody on that teams like, hey, bro, I gotta get
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Speaker 1: up bout of here, and it was told he was said.
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Speaker 1: It had to be said and whatever tactics was he
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Speaker 1: deemed necessary to use, he used them. And he saw
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Speaker 1: him in the presser today with the Los Angeles Rams,
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Speaker 1: and they asked him, how's the back? Do you think
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Speaker 1: you're gonna play Sunday? And what did he say? He
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Speaker 1: sounds feeling my back is feeling good. You know, I
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Speaker 1: might you know, Mike, I'm you know, I'm you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying verbating. What if it's paraphrasing, but he said,
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Speaker 1: my back is feeling good. You know, we'll we'll see,
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Speaker 1: if you know, if I'm able to play on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: He's playing on Sunday. Of course he's playing on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: I listen. I I had a profound respect for Jalen's
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Speaker 1: ability on the football field. I mean, I think he's
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Speaker 1: an outstanding corner. I think it's a generational corner. But
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Speaker 1: his antics as a player or as a teammate suck.
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Speaker 1: That's just the bottom line. It sucks. You can say
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Speaker 1: what you want to say. He played this organization, he
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Speaker 1: played this city, he's paid, he played this fan base.
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Speaker 1: He did what he deemed necessary to gall to Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: He got his wish and I think you know one thing. Look,
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Speaker 1: Leon and Leon and I've been in locker room for
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Speaker 1: we're reaching there for a decade and we always kind
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Speaker 1: of had a philosophy that there is a time for business,
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Speaker 1: and that time for business is when the season ends
7:12
Speaker 1: until the season starts, you know, And I'm talking like, Look,
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Speaker 1: business can even be conducted sometimes in training camp, can
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Speaker 1: be conducted in mini camp, you know, if it's God
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Speaker 1: chooses not to show up. We've seen that a lot.
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Speaker 1: That's all okay, and that's then that's fair. But once
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Speaker 1: you get in the regular season, if I were to
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Speaker 1: do that, now I'm on Leon's time, okay, and I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna play games on Leon's time
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Speaker 1: because that affects him. That affects his ability to be
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Speaker 1: the best that he can be. It affects the ability
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Speaker 1: for him to be the best earner that he can
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Speaker 1: be because of my actions. And so if Jalen didn't
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Speaker 1: lose respect in that locker room, then there's a problem
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Speaker 1: in the locker room down the hall. So I would
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Speaker 1: say that, um, I'm glad that he's that he's that
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Speaker 1: he's gone. I hate to see because Leon is right,
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Speaker 1: he's a great player and you cannot replace great players
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Speaker 1: just willy nilly easily, it doesn't happen. But you also
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Speaker 1: can't sit back, and you couldn't sit back and deal
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Speaker 1: with somebody who was jaking an injury because that's the fact.
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Speaker 1: And how do you say that, Well, that's a fact. Well, look,
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Speaker 1: Duckron came out the day was talked about, Well Genmen
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Speaker 1: was injured. Well, okay, are the Los Angeles Rams gonna
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Speaker 1: give up two first and a fourth for a guy
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Speaker 1: that has a back issue? No? No, no, no, a
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Speaker 1: with a back injury. So the fact that the trade
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Speaker 1: was executed and he passes a physical essentially says he
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Speaker 1: was faking the back injury. And in thirty one years
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Speaker 1: that I've been around the National Football League, been directly
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Speaker 1: involved in the National Football League, I've never seen anything
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Speaker 1: like it. Not not to get traded now. When I
9:02
Speaker 1: first came into my rookie year with the Pittsburgh Stills,
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Speaker 1: because our training camps were a lot different back then
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Speaker 1: than they are now, veteran guys would tell me how
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Speaker 1: to get out of day or practice just a day,
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Speaker 1: practice two days full get where it would They pulled
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Speaker 1: the back because the back is hard to god nose,
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Speaker 1: you know, sore bad spasman back just to get a
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Speaker 1: day off, but not to get a trade. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I mean this was day by day, back back back,
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Speaker 1: miss two games, three games, three games to get your way,
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Speaker 1: and you left your teammates out to drive. Because I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying that if Jayda Ramsey had played in the
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Speaker 1: end of those games it would have been a difference.
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Speaker 1: But they showed then, Suld it would have helped, you know,
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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. And then it sounds like it
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Speaker 1: might not stop here either. If you're here here, d
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Speaker 1: n Sanders comments the day after the trade and might
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Speaker 1: not stop well, Dion basically he said that he won't
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Speaker 1: last more than about a year in l A because
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Speaker 1: the state taxes and he took a pay cut going
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Speaker 1: to l A. I mean, the stadium come tax and uh,
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Speaker 1: the cost of living increase is going to be significant.
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Speaker 1: So the point is if they think this kind of
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Speaker 1: talk and the way they've gone about the business here
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Speaker 1: is gonna stop just because there's a new environment, I
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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna stop because there's a new environment.
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Speaker 1: Whether that's a healthy price to pay by the Rams.
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Speaker 1: If they don't give this them give them a long
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Speaker 1: term deal. To give up two ones and a four
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Speaker 1: four kids is not going to sign. I mean, who's
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Speaker 1: who's a GM out there? That wouldn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: I would imagine that some of those parimeters have been
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Speaker 1: discussed with Jalen and his camp. They would have to
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Speaker 1: be I would assume, But I think I think my concern.
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Speaker 1: First of all, if I was a general manager, which
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Speaker 1: I'm not, but if I was, if I slept at
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Speaker 1: a certain motel hotel and then woke up and I'm
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Speaker 1: a general manager tomorrow, I would not trade for a
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Speaker 1: jail and Ramsey. I wouldn't do it because what's what's
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Speaker 1: to prevent him from two years from now saying you
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Speaker 1: give him a new deal. Now, two years from now,
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Speaker 1: something happens to him that he doesn't like, and then
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he said, you know, I want
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Speaker 1: out Where were you at? Where you're at, You're you're
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Speaker 1: with without a player that uh maybe a generational player,
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Speaker 1: but he's got to want to play to be a
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Speaker 1: generational player. And then I'm all of a sudden as
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Speaker 1: a general manager, I will be out two first round picks.
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Speaker 1: In the fourth round pick, do what do I want
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Speaker 1: to put that at risk? Am I arrogant enough to
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Speaker 1: think that I can I can make this environment better
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Speaker 1: to where General Ramsey won't do that. I mean, to me,
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Speaker 1: that's kind of arrogant to assume that you can make
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Speaker 1: this place better that he won't do that, And I,
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Speaker 1: to me, I just I wouldn't have done it. And
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Speaker 1: he has a history. Yeah, I would have done it.
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Speaker 1: He could be a repeat history if he doesn't get
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Speaker 1: his way the same way two years now you have,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's to me, that's ah, it's good for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, though, I mean good for the Jaguars. Good
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Speaker 1: job by Dave Caldwell of getting a first in and
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Speaker 1: then the first and a fourth. I I'm surprised that
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Speaker 1: I'm first of all, I'm not surprised, but I am
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Speaker 1: surprised at the end because we're not talking about a
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Speaker 1: player who who they just decided to trade. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you're talking about a disgruntled player who is faking an
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Speaker 1: injury essentially to not play because he wanted to be traded.
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Speaker 1: And I'm surprised at the willingness for a trade partner
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Speaker 1: to give to that level for a player that has
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Speaker 1: that going on uh. I thought that what with what
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Speaker 1: Jalen was pulling, that it would affect the value to
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Speaker 1: work a deal out like that, and maybe it did.
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Speaker 1: Maybe the maybe the value would have been higher if
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Speaker 1: he wasn't doing what he was doing and if he
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Speaker 1: liked played over the last three games and was playing well,
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Speaker 1: maybe they get a first and the first and a second.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't know the answer
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Speaker 1: to that, but kudos to to Dave Caldwell for we're
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Speaker 1: getting that trade. I think it's a good deal for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and and certainly it's it's always good for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars just to get a player out of here
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Speaker 1: who doesn't want to be here, and then to be
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Speaker 1: able to receive something on the back end of that,
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Speaker 1: I think makes it even sweeter. Alright, so it is done.
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Speaker 1: Jaylor Ramsey has gone. The Jags have draft picks coming
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Speaker 1: in the next two drafts as payment for that, and
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Speaker 1: now they've got to move ahead. And we'll come back
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Speaker 1: in just a little bit. We're gonna talk offense. We'll
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Speaker 1: talk defense and how the defense moves forward. Well, they've
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Speaker 1: been without him for three weeks, but how they bounced
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Speaker 1: back last week and play the solid game against the Saints.
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Speaker 1: Can they do that again? This week? We're back in
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy, r J P. Shatrick lely on Cerci,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Lageman, the Jags and the Bengals coming up, and Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars offense struggled last week. They had a lot
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Speaker 1: of early three and ounce Kash in a couple of
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Speaker 1: field goals, couldn't get in the end zone, and Gardner
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Speaker 1: Minshew had his worst outing so far as the starting
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Speaker 1: can Gardner meant you the second bounce back we heard
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Speaker 1: from the quarterback this week? So seeing new looks every week,
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Speaker 1: It's only been like, what six games so far, so
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Speaker 1: each team presents new coverages, new challenges, um different ways
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Speaker 1: they're gonna attack us, you know, in different ways we're
18:25
Speaker 1: gonna have to attack them. So it says definitely learning
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Speaker 1: each week and uh, you know, hope to learn every
18:31
Speaker 1: game I play from you know here to the end. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: new looks a lot of these weeks. What did the
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Speaker 1: Saints show him last week that he had not seen?
18:39
Speaker 1: And what can we expect from the Bengals who have
18:41
Speaker 1: struggled on the defensive side. Well, coverage wives, they saw
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Speaker 1: a lot of two men, which it's it's something that
18:49
Speaker 1: they've seen before, but I don't think it was something
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Speaker 1: that they saw with the regularity that they did against
18:53
Speaker 1: the Saints. And also that was something that the Saints
18:57
Speaker 1: didn't play a lot of to be honest with you,
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Speaker 1: as as a team. And one of the reasons that
19:03
Speaker 1: that was allowable or that the Saints were able to
19:06
Speaker 1: do that is the average distance to go on third
19:09
Speaker 1: down for the Jaguars was like seven point four yards,
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Speaker 1: So average on third down is like three point seven
19:15
Speaker 1: yards a clip. So when a defense gets to three
19:20
Speaker 1: to third down and seven yards to go, it gives
19:22
Speaker 1: them a lot of flexibility to do certain things. In
19:24
Speaker 1: first and foremost, that allows them to play Cover two
19:28
Speaker 1: and any form of Cover two, which is essentially is
19:31
Speaker 1: a past defense and it is a run deficient defense.
19:36
Speaker 1: So now they can play for the past, they can
19:38
Speaker 1: play to man, and they're playing that because they're not
19:42
Speaker 1: worried about the run. Well, if the Jaguars were in
19:45
Speaker 1: third and three or third and four, then the Saints
19:48
Speaker 1: would not be able to dial up to man because
19:51
Speaker 1: they would be concerned about Leonard four Nett and his
19:53
Speaker 1: ability for the Jaguars to run the football and convert
19:56
Speaker 1: the chains and move on. So part of it is
19:59
Speaker 1: not just the fact that you face Cover two man.
20:02
Speaker 1: The other part is is that you need to have
20:04
Speaker 1: some early down success on first down and second down,
20:07
Speaker 1: which was kind of ore out of character for the Jaguars.
20:10
Speaker 1: Because going into that game, they were second in the
20:12
Speaker 1: National Football League and yards gained on first down and
20:16
Speaker 1: they were only second to the Kansas City Chiefs, So
20:18
Speaker 1: they have been having early down success. But they then
20:21
Speaker 1: against the Saints, they saw a lot of two men
20:23
Speaker 1: which they weren't expecting. And I think from a player
20:27
Speaker 1: standpoint and from a coaching standpoint, they weren't prepared to
20:31
Speaker 1: face that because they hadn't seen it, and they had
20:34
Speaker 1: become accustomed to getting that, and they weren't seeing that
20:37
Speaker 1: from the SATs at all in preparation. Leon, this is
20:40
Speaker 1: the first chance we'll have to see how Gardner meants
20:44
Speaker 1: you responds to a subpar statistical day. You know what,
20:48
Speaker 1: I almost wanted to almost wanted to see Gardener miss
20:52
Speaker 1: you in a game where he struggled early, to see
20:54
Speaker 1: him come back and you know, bounce back. But this
20:57
Speaker 1: was a situation where the whole game he really stroke.
21:00
Speaker 1: He looked like a rookie for the first time. I know,
21:02
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about missue made and everything like that.
21:04
Speaker 1: He's been so spectacular, but this is the first time
21:07
Speaker 1: that he actually looked like a rook like he was
21:09
Speaker 1: Like Jack Lackman was saying, the Saints had a plan.
21:11
Speaker 1: They were gonna put the jag walls in the third
21:13
Speaker 1: and long situation. You know, the Jaguars and first down,
21:16
Speaker 1: second down. You know, we're either had losses or we're
21:18
Speaker 1: getting that many yards. So it's too hard for any
21:20
Speaker 1: quarterback to have to go up against third and long
21:22
Speaker 1: with that situation. So he was indecisive. He chucked the
21:26
Speaker 1: ball a lot. He was he you know, he wasn't
21:29
Speaker 1: confident with his throws. He scrambled around a bit in
21:32
Speaker 1: the pocket. Didn't want to scramble. So that was really
21:34
Speaker 1: the first time he actually looked and and not only him,
21:37
Speaker 1: but I was watching Juwan Taylor. Juana Taylor for the
21:40
Speaker 1: first time went up against all pro I mean he,
21:42
Speaker 1: I mean he would against j j Wat did a
21:44
Speaker 1: pretty good job. But we talked about ja had lost
21:46
Speaker 1: a step or two. But when he played against Jordan's
21:49
Speaker 1: Jordan's You're gonna understand these coordinators, these players, they watched film.
21:52
Speaker 1: Now they've got enough film on on Missue to see
21:55
Speaker 1: what works again and what he likes, what he doesn't like,
21:57
Speaker 1: and they put a plan together for him. Same way
22:00
Speaker 1: with Jawn. He struggled to be he gave up the
22:02
Speaker 1: two sacks is because I was watching him during KEMP
22:05
Speaker 1: he holsters his hands, which mean he's carried his hands
22:07
Speaker 1: too low. He doesn't carry him high enough. And then
22:10
Speaker 1: his timing when his punch was off and and Cameron
22:12
Speaker 1: Jordan's he saw that and he exposed him on that.
22:15
Speaker 1: And you're a rookie, you have a bad game. I
22:17
Speaker 1: had a bad game. I gave up three sacks in
22:19
Speaker 1: one game. And then two yearsly I was looking for
22:21
Speaker 1: the same guy and I got him back. But but
22:25
Speaker 1: those are the type of games you grow and you
22:26
Speaker 1: learn from it. So men should he had grown here
22:29
Speaker 1: and learned, and he's going up against the team where
22:31
Speaker 1: he should have a lot of success against. Yeah, that's
22:33
Speaker 1: the trick this week. The Cincinnati defense struggles statistically and
22:38
Speaker 1: pretty much any metric who you want to use. They
22:40
Speaker 1: have not played well this year well first and foremost
22:43
Speaker 1: dead last in the National Football League against the running
22:46
Speaker 1: I think part of that is that they've had a
22:48
Speaker 1: lot of injuries, a lot of front guys that have
22:50
Speaker 1: been hurt from Glasgow to carry Win Carlos Dunlap. In fact,
22:54
Speaker 1: they put Win on injured reserve this week, and um,
22:57
Speaker 1: you know he had a concussion issue. And then they
23:00
Speaker 1: find Anthony Zettel, who was with the Cleveland Browns I
23:03
Speaker 1: believe most recently. So they're trying to trying to fortify
23:06
Speaker 1: their roster right now, but they've got issues. Yeah. But
23:10
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that that should happen will
23:12
Speaker 1: happen against the Bengals is that Leonard Fournette has success
23:16
Speaker 1: on the ground and allows Gardner Minshew to kind of
23:18
Speaker 1: calm his world down because the world wasn't calm against
23:21
Speaker 1: the Saints in two ways that you can see that
23:25
Speaker 1: One how fast ward his feet moving, which that's the
23:28
Speaker 1: first time I've ever seen multiple plays where the feet
23:31
Speaker 1: get choppy when I say the Peyton Manning type feet.
23:35
Speaker 1: But Peyton did it, but he was never nervous. He
23:38
Speaker 1: was just trying to create balance in his footwork. But
23:40
Speaker 1: it kind of that look. And then also how quickly
23:44
Speaker 1: the head moved with Gardner Minshew in this past game.
23:47
Speaker 1: He saw a lot of head movement and uh. And
23:50
Speaker 1: when you see a lot of head movement, is he
23:52
Speaker 1: he's unsure that what he's gonna do with the football.
23:55
Speaker 1: I think at times he was checking the rush and uh,
23:59
Speaker 1: and he wasn't trusting his protection, which for the most
24:03
Speaker 1: part I thought Leon besides the two plays that that
24:07
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's got, I thought it was okay, it was
24:10
Speaker 1: it was decent and three times all day. Yeah, yeah,
24:13
Speaker 1: and enough enough. Camp Be said about the fact that
24:16
Speaker 1: they went up against a playoff team that was literally
24:20
Speaker 1: a pass interception, a passive deferience away from being in
24:23
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So they saw an elite team minus
24:27
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. So I was a very good football team.
24:31
Speaker 1: When I want to emiside really good football team. Look
24:34
Speaker 1: at who they played going in that game, Seattle, who's
24:38
Speaker 1: at Seattle Dallas. They played some teams they didn't play.
24:43
Speaker 1: They didn't played the Patriots schedule. And I'm not criticized
24:46
Speaker 1: in New England Patriots because they're well, their schedule is criticize,
24:51
Speaker 1: criticized schedule. I'm not going to criticize them. But the
24:54
Speaker 1: Saints schedule. They arguably have had the toughest schedule maybe
24:59
Speaker 1: in the league going into that game. So, I mean
25:01
Speaker 1: you will talk about battle testing and a and a
25:04
Speaker 1: really good balance football team. When I say balance, I'm
25:06
Speaker 1: talking all three phases. Their defense is good, special teams
25:10
Speaker 1: that quality returner UH and offensively with with one of
25:14
Speaker 1: the best backs in the league and arguably the best
25:17
Speaker 1: wide receiver in league. That's a tough challenge. Teddy hold
25:21
Speaker 1: it together until Breeze gets home. And he had some
25:23
Speaker 1: shaky moments I thought in that ball game, But I
25:25
Speaker 1: thought he pulled it together a little bit. And the
25:28
Speaker 1: Jaguars rush I think missed some opportunities early in that
25:31
Speaker 1: ball game, and uh, and Teddy was able to kind
25:35
Speaker 1: of stabilize a little bit and get his crap together.
25:38
Speaker 1: But uh, tough game, tough game, and uh and learning
25:41
Speaker 1: experience for Gardner. Minshew, that's is this a bigger game? You?
25:45
Speaker 1: You said the run that you think Tess gonna have
25:47
Speaker 1: a big game. How about in the passing game when
25:49
Speaker 1: they start to establish this sinking Gardner throw it up.
25:52
Speaker 1: Will DJ have another day at the office. He's got
25:55
Speaker 1: an opportunity, I mean, you've got uh dark Drake Kirkpatrick
26:00
Speaker 1: is expected to be out with a knee. There are
26:02
Speaker 1: other starting corner William Jackson third is expected to be
26:06
Speaker 1: out with a shoulder. Darkeys Dennard, who has been there
26:09
Speaker 1: a slot guy in the past, is on p U
26:11
Speaker 1: p uh so so Leon. Here here's your starting corners
26:15
Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals this week. Tory Tyler mc tyler
26:19
Speaker 1: mc tyer, who's five eleven, b W Webb who's five eleven,
26:23
Speaker 1: and Tony McGray, who's five ten. Oh yeah, two of
26:26
Speaker 1: the starting corners are out for the game. Yeah so,
26:29
Speaker 1: but but but but before I'll take that all all day,
26:33
Speaker 1: all day before we can get to that, though, You
26:35
Speaker 1: got you look at the Bengals defense against the run.
26:39
Speaker 1: They've already getting up eleven hundred yards against the run,
26:41
Speaker 1: two hundred eight yards a game, five point three yards
26:45
Speaker 1: of carry. So if you want to get Garden to
26:47
Speaker 1: Mensho going the offensive line, you get that running game going,
26:51
Speaker 1: you get Leonard for that going. That's gonna open up
26:53
Speaker 1: all kind of lanes for the past of length from
26:55
Speaker 1: Garden to menshow So I gotta start with the want
26:57
Speaker 1: run for us. I think Soun's like a get right
27:00
Speaker 1: Sunday for the Jags in Cincinnati, at least on the offensive.
27:04
Speaker 1: I was writing my little piece for the experts column
27:07
Speaker 1: that goes on Jaguars dot Com, and yeah, you never
27:10
Speaker 1: want to say that this is UH must win or
27:13
Speaker 1: winnable game or an easy win or anything like. As
27:16
Speaker 1: Terry Robiski told me earlier today, the running back coach.
27:18
Speaker 1: There's no homecoming game in the NFL, and there's not
27:22
Speaker 1: and there's not, And look the minute used to. You
27:23
Speaker 1: take an Owen six team lightly or no for team
27:27
Speaker 1: at any point in this season, then you're gonna get humbled.
27:30
Speaker 1: So you've got to come ready to play, and and
27:33
Speaker 1: also come ready to play against a football team that
27:35
Speaker 1: hasn't been playing very well, and also in a very
27:40
Speaker 1: unemotional environment. It's gonna it's gonna be probably reminiscent of
27:46
Speaker 1: my days. But when I was at uv Ale, I'm
27:47
Speaker 1: going to play at duke back before they got Steve
27:51
Speaker 1: Spurrier as their head coach, and people got excited about
27:53
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28:02
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals fans right now are a little disgruntled. They're
28:05
Speaker 1: not showing up, and so it's gonna be a pretty
28:08
Speaker 1: quiet environment in Cincinnati. I think they've got two wins
28:11
Speaker 1: between the Teamsville. Here's the reality that the Jaguars are
28:15
Speaker 1: not a draw in Cincinnati, and the Jaguars are two
28:20
Speaker 1: win football team. And look, I appreciate the Jaguar fans.
28:23
Speaker 1: You know, they travel as best they can, but it's
28:25
Speaker 1: not like the Pittsburgh Steelers or or other historic NFL
28:28
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28:31
Speaker 1: wherever they go. You know. So, Uh, the stadium is
28:35
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty quiet. We'll come back. Jaguars Defense. How
28:40
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28:42
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34:48
Speaker 1: course traded to the Los Angeles Rams, so moving ahead
34:53
Speaker 1: or they haven't had him the last three weeks anyway,
34:56
Speaker 1: But what can we expect from this secondary now that
34:59
Speaker 1: you know he's not going to be around here? Guys, Leon,
35:02
Speaker 1: what do you think this thing is gonna look like? Well,
35:04
Speaker 1: I mean, gave me a stat of how many guys
35:08
Speaker 1: we want to glocester, and I don't feel as comfortable
35:10
Speaker 1: as I did that Will. Maybe five minutes ago he
35:12
Speaker 1: was saying that the ten dbs we have, which is amazing,
35:19
Speaker 1: it's a little concerning joy Jared Wilson, Uh, let me
35:25
Speaker 1: get him to you, I'll get him. I got him on.
35:27
Speaker 1: These are the three starters, yes, exactly three stars. I
35:30
Speaker 1: mean you've got Trey Herndon, a j boy, which he
35:33
Speaker 1: was a Texans undrafted guy. Brian Borders was a Raiders
35:38
Speaker 1: undrafted guy, Trey Winger Jaguars Andrew and then Jared Wilson
35:46
Speaker 1: Jaguars undrafted got Cody Davis was an undrafted guy with
35:51
Speaker 1: who originally look it up, it was later it was
35:54
Speaker 1: another team. It was a different team. But I mean
35:57
Speaker 1: six out of the ten dbs that you have in
36:00
Speaker 1: your secondary are or were undrafted guys, which is it's
36:06
Speaker 1: kind of surprising. St. Louis Rams for Davis. Okay, St.
36:08
Speaker 1: Louis Rams. I mean that's that's pretty amazing, right, I
36:11
Speaker 1: mean six out of ten dbs undrafted. The latest acquisition
36:16
Speaker 1: Perry Nickerson, who they acquired off of the Seattle Seahawks
36:20
Speaker 1: practice squad. He was a six round pick of the
36:22
Speaker 1: Jets last year. So look, that doesn't matter how you
36:28
Speaker 1: get there, and that matters what you do when you're there.
36:31
Speaker 1: That's right. Well, I mean you look at the Jaguars
36:34
Speaker 1: in seventeen when they had all that success, when you
36:37
Speaker 1: got to all pro corners and the whole sacks of Ville.
36:40
Speaker 1: They played hand in hand with one another, your ability
36:43
Speaker 1: to cover and giving me that extra second or two
36:47
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback. So um, but it won't
36:50
Speaker 1: battered this week because I've seen the Biggins offensive line.
36:53
Speaker 1: They're terrible. They are the injury too. They they're hurting,
36:56
Speaker 1: they're hurting with injuries. Um, and they're they're just not
36:59
Speaker 1: that good. We had Willie Anderson on, you know, the
37:02
Speaker 1: all pro right tackle from Cincinnati, he stays relevant with
37:06
Speaker 1: the team or whatever, and he just told me Leon,
37:08
Speaker 1: they're just not good. They're hurting and they're they're not
37:11
Speaker 1: playing well. And it's obviously when they give up twenty
37:13
Speaker 1: two sacks, you know, and they're rushing the ball the
37:16
Speaker 1: only average and with three point one yards of rush
37:18
Speaker 1: a hundred yards of game. So it's a struggling team
37:21
Speaker 1: right now. So I mean, but that's not our fault.
37:25
Speaker 1: We we we need we need to take advantage of
37:29
Speaker 1: we need to take advantage of the fact that they
37:31
Speaker 1: can't run the ball at all that well, they don't
37:33
Speaker 1: protect that well, and just gives us opportunities to feast
37:37
Speaker 1: on Sunday without defense. Give you a little background on
37:40
Speaker 1: their injuries on offensive line. Corty Glenn, who is their
37:43
Speaker 1: normal starting left tackle, has been out a couple of
37:45
Speaker 1: weeks with a concussion, and then, uh two weeks ago
37:49
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals, Andrea Smith started and then he got
37:54
Speaker 1: hurt in that game, and then they moved John Jerry
37:57
Speaker 1: to left tackle. John Jerry also started last week at
38:00
Speaker 1: left guard. Michael Jordan's started at left guard, and then
38:07
Speaker 1: into the game came Billy Price. Excuse me, he started
38:12
Speaker 1: last week against the Ravens because Michael Jordan's got hurt.
38:15
Speaker 1: At right guard. John Miller's the normal starter. He got
38:18
Speaker 1: it hurt last week and then Alex Redmond had to
38:22
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38:24
Speaker 1: guys that have been consistent for the Bangals over the
38:27
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks has been right tackle Bobby Hart
38:30
Speaker 1: and then center Trey Hopkins, who, by the way, Trey
38:33
Speaker 1: Hopkins is a good football player. UM, a pretty good
38:36
Speaker 1: football player. I didn't know anything about, and watching him
38:38
Speaker 1: on film for the last a couple of weeks, he's
38:41
Speaker 1: impressed me. And here's another thing that happens with the
38:43
Speaker 1: offensive line when you have injuries and guys there's no cohesiveness.
38:47
Speaker 1: I mean, guys are you know, guys aren't working together.
38:50
Speaker 1: It's it's you want to have guys on the same page.
38:52
Speaker 1: You know. I always sell offensive linement like married to
38:55
Speaker 1: each other. You've gotta be able to trust the guy
38:57
Speaker 1: next to you with the calls, with the double teams
38:59
Speaker 1: and all that to stuff with the protections. So if
39:01
Speaker 1: you're shifting in these different components, different pieces weekend week out,
39:05
Speaker 1: as I can understand why they're struggling the way to
39:07
Speaker 1: be struffle. They saw that here last year. Guys they've
39:10
Speaker 1: got happen. They've got ten offensive linemen on the roster
39:13
Speaker 1: right now because they just picked up a guy by
39:16
Speaker 1: the name of Fred Johnson, a rookie from Florida who
39:19
Speaker 1: was an undrafted guy. And uh, I mean, so ten
39:23
Speaker 1: offensive line. That's very rare for a team to have
39:26
Speaker 1: ten offensive linement on active rocks are typically eight is
39:29
Speaker 1: about your number and then if you got you know,
39:31
Speaker 1: a good one, you might go nine. Rarely do you
39:34
Speaker 1: see teams have ten. Well, they've got ten because they've
39:36
Speaker 1: got so many injuries on the offensive line, but none
39:39
Speaker 1: of them, none of them are gonna be significant injuries.
39:42
Speaker 1: Where they're gonna miss like four or five or six weeks. Therefore,
39:45
Speaker 1: that's why you got ten the biggest, biggest day on
39:49
Speaker 1: the defensive line. Then who is it? I think anybody's
39:53
Speaker 1: But look here, here's the thing. You always go back to,
39:55
Speaker 1: who's the most talented player that you have on your
39:57
Speaker 1: defensive line or the most talented players? You start with
40:00
Speaker 1: Klass and then after that, I think it's a toss up.
40:03
Speaker 1: Do you go in Gockway or do you go Josh Allen? Uh.
40:07
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's playing really well right now. Uh, and Gockway
40:10
Speaker 1: is getting close to at times. So I think any
40:14
Speaker 1: of those three guys and and look would be great
40:16
Speaker 1: if all three of them had it, it would it's possible.
40:20
Speaker 1: We've seen that before. I'd like to see both. I'd
40:23
Speaker 1: like to see all three guys get at least two
40:24
Speaker 1: set and that's possible. Looking and I get got your credit.
40:34
Speaker 1: Smoot Uh, d Wan Smoots playing well. He played well
40:37
Speaker 1: last week, had a nice rush. He's been doing pretty
40:39
Speaker 1: good against the run. I've always been a guy that
40:45
Speaker 1: that I liked Smoots film when he came out college,
40:48
Speaker 1: and then I was disappointed. I think in the first
40:49
Speaker 1: couple of years with some of his production, and then
40:53
Speaker 1: this year it looks like he's finally starting to break through.
40:55
Speaker 1: The guy that I think continues to disappoint me as
40:58
Speaker 1: Taven Brian. He got more snaps last week and he
41:01
Speaker 1: still can't find the football. Uh so uh in gock Way,
41:06
Speaker 1: Calais and Smoot and Josh Allen. Those gotta be the
41:11
Speaker 1: guys that that you get the main production from. Andy
41:14
Speaker 1: Dalton has been around this league for a long time now.
41:17
Speaker 1: It's amazing to think about that. You know what's amazing
41:20
Speaker 1: JP came in in Leon. When you're in the year
41:24
Speaker 1: for in the league for nine years, you would you
41:29
Speaker 1: would think that some of the what I call the
41:31
Speaker 1: gimme completions look like gimme's. You know, a clean pocket
41:36
Speaker 1: and then you've got a wide open wide receiver. It
41:40
Speaker 1: should be like playing catch. Andy Dalton actually has some
41:44
Speaker 1: of the worst numbers I think, in the National Football
41:46
Speaker 1: League as far as ratings go with a clean pocket.
41:51
Speaker 1: The film that he put out there from last week
41:53
Speaker 1: against the Ravens game, I literally was going back and
41:56
Speaker 1: watching plays going is that really Andy Dalton? M I
42:00
Speaker 1: mean it was bad, I mean really bad. And he
42:04
Speaker 1: has uh this one wide receiver that made some really
42:07
Speaker 1: crazy catches to help him actually have some decent numbers.
42:10
Speaker 1: And his name is audent Ay to Florida State guy
42:13
Speaker 1: and he's a big guy, like a J Green similar
42:15
Speaker 1: number because he wears nineteen and uh turned and kind
42:19
Speaker 1: of rewounded a couple of times on him. Uh. But
42:22
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's not playing very well. His numbers state that
42:26
Speaker 1: he's twenty six in the National Football League with an
42:29
Speaker 1: eight two point eight rating. And that's about as pedestrian
42:32
Speaker 1: as you can get in the National Football League. That
42:36
Speaker 1: all the issues around him don't help. But even when
42:39
Speaker 1: there is a clean bout, Yeah, when when a quarterback
42:44
Speaker 1: doesn't have a running game, which they have the worst
42:48
Speaker 1: rushing offense in the National Football League, And here are
42:51
Speaker 1: the numbers they are averaging. Hold onto your shorts here, folks,
42:57
Speaker 1: fifty six point five yards machine a game. Their workhorse
43:03
Speaker 1: running back Joe Mixon's averaging three point four yards to carry.
43:06
Speaker 1: And do Youvanni Bernard is averaging two point one yards
43:11
Speaker 1: per carry. That's not getting it done. That's pathetic, can't
43:14
Speaker 1: do it and so pretty bad. I don't care if
43:17
Speaker 1: you've got a great quarterback his numbers aren't gonna be
43:19
Speaker 1: that good when he's got a running game like that.
43:21
Speaker 1: But when you've got an average at best quarterback, then
43:24
Speaker 1: his numbers become Um. I don't want to say below
43:27
Speaker 1: the Mendoza line, because I don't think there is one
43:29
Speaker 1: for quarterback radios, But it becomes very apparent that Annie
43:32
Speaker 1: Dalton can't can't do it by himself, and he's not
43:35
Speaker 1: he's not having a very good year. Let's come back.
43:38
Speaker 1: We'll touch the a f C South standings, the upcoming
43:42
Speaker 1: schedule in the division, and we'll go around the National
43:45
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43:49
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43:52
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43:55
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47:29
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47:31
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't happen too often, but it does happen. Uh,
47:34
Speaker 1: you know, but I mean we went through our last
47:36
Speaker 1: year too. We're Dante. Uh. You know, it's a good player,
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47:43
Speaker 1: your teammates work for a few years. But at the day,
47:46
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta focus on what's ahead of us.
47:48
Speaker 1: You and um, you know, you kind of treated like
47:51
Speaker 1: I mean, Mama is kind of like the guy getting injured,
47:53
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47:58
Speaker 1: move on, you know, next man up, Clay's Campbell, next
48:03
Speaker 1: man up. Jalen Ramsey's gone. The Jags move on to Cincinnati.
48:08
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48:12
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Speaker 1: Jeff Lockerman, leon Searcy And this is the stretch, guys.
48:22
Speaker 1: Obviously this season we'll go around the division coming up.
48:25
Speaker 1: But you know we've said when Nick Foles got injured,
48:29
Speaker 1: if you can get through this stretch around five hundred
48:32
Speaker 1: at the bye four and five, five and four, somewhere
48:36
Speaker 1: in that window, then okay, you're you're set up for
48:39
Speaker 1: the last half of the season here to at least
48:42
Speaker 1: try to make a run. Well, this is the window
48:45
Speaker 1: these three weeks coming up. And Leonard for not in
48:47
Speaker 1: the locker room today understands that the next two games
48:52
Speaker 1: must win, you know, to get us right now. So
48:57
Speaker 1: I mean we do we know what that state. It's
49:00
Speaker 1: nothing far behind it, you know, but it's coming out
49:02
Speaker 1: of competing. Hasn't one of biggest thanks to doing and uh,
49:05
Speaker 1: just finishing and finding ways to win. You know, we
49:08
Speaker 1: came up shot a lot of a lot of games
49:11
Speaker 1: have passed. You know, something was by two points and
49:13
Speaker 1: something about two points, songs about touchdown and just finding
49:16
Speaker 1: ways you know, the pants games, defense game. This game
49:20
Speaker 1: was offense game. A defense played a heck of a
49:23
Speaker 1: game against the Saints. We have a final ways to score,
49:26
Speaker 1: uh and make hay when the next two your five
49:30
Speaker 1: hundred going to London to face the division arrival Houston
49:34
Speaker 1: Texans with a chance to be five and four to
49:36
Speaker 1: buy And that's it's about all you can ask, right.
49:38
Speaker 1: This is this is the window coming up these next
49:40
Speaker 1: three weeks. Are you better worry about one first? And
49:42
Speaker 1: that's this one this week before you start saying, you know, hey,
49:46
Speaker 1: he's in the barn on this game with the Bengals
49:48
Speaker 1: and then with the Jets next week that Jets are
49:51
Speaker 1: playing differently with Sam Garnald back at the helm and uh,
49:55
Speaker 1: as I said, before the minute you start taking it
49:57
Speaker 1: on six football team light, you're gonna get humble in
50:00
Speaker 1: this league. So you know, I think this team has
50:03
Speaker 1: a real good chance. And here's the thing. I think
50:05
Speaker 1: that that is kind of being assumed that only on
50:09
Speaker 1: most people thought, Okay, let's get to five hundred or
50:12
Speaker 1: close to five hundred within a game and then Nick
50:16
Speaker 1: Foles comes back. Well, my whole thing is, look, you've
50:22
Speaker 1: had a quarterback that's playing played pretty well for you,
50:25
Speaker 1: and so is getting back to five just your goal?
50:31
Speaker 1: I mean, is Nick Foles going to be the savior
50:34
Speaker 1: if you get to five hundred or close to five
50:36
Speaker 1: hundred and then he comes back, Is he gonna? Is
50:38
Speaker 1: he gonna make that big of a difference with this
50:40
Speaker 1: football team? Yeah? Well, you know, I think a lot
50:44
Speaker 1: of that is based on his resume with the Eagles.
50:47
Speaker 1: You know, I used to call him St Nick as
50:50
Speaker 1: you know, close to Christmas time. That has a lot
50:58
Speaker 1: to do with it. But I agree with you on that.
51:00
Speaker 1: If if Garden the Menshoe, he had the one bad
51:03
Speaker 1: game against the Saints, he was humble. You know, they
51:05
Speaker 1: exposed the Mabe played like a rookie. But if he's
51:08
Speaker 1: got this offense rolling, and I don't I don't necessarily
51:12
Speaker 1: agree with just get the five hundred. I mean, listen,
51:14
Speaker 1: we we beat the Bengals, Jazz, I'm not trying to
51:17
Speaker 1: look at then we go to London world we're familiar with.
51:19
Speaker 1: When we play the Texas, I say, you go for
51:21
Speaker 1: the division, get this thing rolling, they win the division.
51:24
Speaker 1: I mean good getting the five hundred middle of the season.
51:26
Speaker 1: I mean that's not good enough. It's been far too
51:28
Speaker 1: where the last year. I just remember midway pointing through
51:32
Speaker 1: the season, Jack had struggled so once it would listening,
51:35
Speaker 1: you know, there was already talking about what we're gonna
51:37
Speaker 1: do in the draft in April. You know, that culture,
51:38
Speaker 1: in that mindset has to change. This team had should
51:41
Speaker 1: be focused on winning the division. And they got a
51:44
Speaker 1: formulable task because Texas aren't in the joke. Coast on
51:48
Speaker 1: in the joke and you still gotta go to the Tech,
51:51
Speaker 1: you gotta go to Tennessee, who you finally beat, but
51:54
Speaker 1: you know you gotta go on the road against him,
51:55
Speaker 1: So that that that's a that's a healthy schedule to
51:59
Speaker 1: to to half the battle. But that you'll focus on
52:02
Speaker 1: your main point. You know, your focus should be winning
52:04
Speaker 1: this division. If you go to if you lose to
52:06
Speaker 1: the Bengals, I think just losing to the Bengals itself
52:10
Speaker 1: would be I don't want to say catastrophic. Was about
52:14
Speaker 1: to say that it's pretty darn close, but that would
52:18
Speaker 1: hurt a loss. They're not playing well, they don't have
52:25
Speaker 1: a win. Uh got a new head coach, quarter pack
52:29
Speaker 1: quarterback that's not playing well, and they're beat up. You
52:32
Speaker 1: know what they're saying. Though you know what they're saying
52:34
Speaker 1: and what they're saying two and four. Here's the thing.
52:40
Speaker 1: Their issues are way bigger than the issues here. I'm
52:44
Speaker 1: gonna assure you that if you go to two and
52:47
Speaker 1: five with the loss to the Bengals, is the icing,
52:52
Speaker 1: because that's the last thing that would would have happened
52:54
Speaker 1: with this football team. I mean, all of a sudden,
52:57
Speaker 1: you're looking at this football team, go on, it's over. Yeah,
53:02
Speaker 1: there's not much room for error after that you do that.
53:05
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it that it's over, but you're feeling
53:09
Speaker 1: is that it's over. So, I mean, this is about
53:12
Speaker 1: as big as they come. And I'm not one to
53:15
Speaker 1: use must win games because you know, look you can
53:18
Speaker 1: you can get in a roll lee on like we
53:19
Speaker 1: did ninety six and all of a sudden roll off
53:22
Speaker 1: you know, some straight wins to get in the playoffs.
53:24
Speaker 1: But that doesn't happen very you guys in the eight
53:27
Speaker 1: ball when it happened, So, I mean, you'd rather not
53:30
Speaker 1: be at that point. We were went three and six
53:33
Speaker 1: and four and seven. Yeah, I think, yeah, roll off
53:36
Speaker 1: five straight and had to have help at the end
53:39
Speaker 1: to get in and have help two different ways, right,
53:43
Speaker 1: I had to have help all had to line up
53:44
Speaker 1: on another game and then had a little help from
53:49
Speaker 1: some stories in a little bit of a win. Let's
53:55
Speaker 1: take a look at the A s C South standings
53:57
Speaker 1: and they haven't changed the last couple of weeks at
53:59
Speaker 1: the order Houston Leon, as you said, playing good ball
54:03
Speaker 1: for two. Indy was off last week, the Jags and
54:07
Speaker 1: the Titans at the bottom. And the games this week
54:10
Speaker 1: of course the Jags of the Bengals, but the Texans
54:13
Speaker 1: are playing in Indye against the Colts. It'll be a
54:15
Speaker 1: good matchup on Sunday one o'clock. Really good game, really
54:18
Speaker 1: good game. In fact, I might if I if it's
54:21
Speaker 1: gonna well it won't air because the Jaguars Bengals beyond.
54:24
Speaker 1: But I'd like to have a DVR that they still
54:27
Speaker 1: play the replays on NFL Network. I think sometimes well,
54:30
Speaker 1: if not, I'll watch that one on film because that's
54:32
Speaker 1: a good matchup, good game. Texans playing good. Chargers are
54:37
Speaker 1: at the Titans in Nashville, Chargers not playing. Well, that's
54:42
Speaker 1: two games in a row that out the gate. They've
54:46
Speaker 1: gotten behind, and uh, not good. Not good for the
54:51
Speaker 1: for the Chargers at all because many people thought that
54:53
Speaker 1: they would be in contention in the a f C
54:55
Speaker 1: and clearly they're not. Alright. One note from the owners
54:59
Speaker 1: meetings this week. They were down in South Florida the
55:02
Speaker 1: fall owners meetings. They happened quarterly in fact, but Roger
55:05
Speaker 1: Goodell confirmed that there have been talks on a seven
55:08
Speaker 1: team game season talks between the NFL and the Players
55:11
Speaker 1: Association during the early negotiations for the next c B
55:15
Speaker 1: A and possible shortening of the preseason to go along
55:19
Speaker 1: with that. What do you guys think of that? More games,
55:21
Speaker 1: more money, Yeah, more paycheck. I knew this was comment games.
55:26
Speaker 1: It's going to visually get the eight team. I think
55:28
Speaker 1: that was the original talking point that maybe they've walked
55:30
Speaker 1: it back a little. Here. Here's one thing that has
55:33
Speaker 1: to happen. One preseason game doesn't equal one regular season game.
55:37
Speaker 1: So you can't cut the preseason back to three and
55:39
Speaker 1: an extended regular season to seventeen. There's got to be
55:42
Speaker 1: like a two for one deal on that at least.
55:46
Speaker 1: So in other words, you cut two preseason games out
55:48
Speaker 1: to add the one regular season. So I can't imagine
55:54
Speaker 1: the players Association agreeing to anything but that. And because
56:01
Speaker 1: the seven when you go to seventeen, I know there
56:03
Speaker 1: was talk for a while about going to eighteen and
56:06
Speaker 1: then having okay, maybe expand the roster a little bit,
56:10
Speaker 1: and then you say, okay, all of our players can
56:11
Speaker 1: only play in sixteen games. Well that doesn't make any sense. Uh.
56:16
Speaker 1: I still believe that you should expand the roster regardless.
56:19
Speaker 1: I mean why not. I mean, if if if you
56:22
Speaker 1: can go from fifty three to fifty four, why not
56:25
Speaker 1: to expand it roster by one player and keep practice
56:28
Speaker 1: squad and everybody else the same. But I think I
56:31
Speaker 1: think having that active roster expanded by one, I think
56:34
Speaker 1: what mat would help, but h seventeen games, I would
56:38
Speaker 1: be that would be interesting because it's not an even number.
56:41
Speaker 1: You know, would it float? I mean, how would how
56:43
Speaker 1: would they handle that very question? How would they handle that?
56:45
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, a lot of talks
56:47
Speaker 1: still to come. I'm sure maybe. And then if they expanded,
56:58
Speaker 1: of course, then you go deeper into Februar. A worry
57:00
Speaker 1: with the postseason play and all that stuff too. That's
57:03
Speaker 1: that's on down the line. Your old team in the
57:05
Speaker 1: news again. Um will the Steelers, you know, moving into
57:10
Speaker 1: the off season. Here is Kevin Colbert in trouble is
57:13
Speaker 1: kind of a storyline, and apparently Steeler's owner aren't Uney
57:16
Speaker 1: the second told Ian Rappaport on a podcast this week,
57:20
Speaker 1: they're gonna revisited after the draft and see what happens
57:23
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. He's been there for a long time, twenty
57:25
Speaker 1: years ago. They don't make changes in Pittsburgh. They don't.
57:29
Speaker 1: They really don't know. They take their time with the
57:33
Speaker 1: people that in personnel people had to go a job.
57:36
Speaker 1: Overall though, from personnel standpoint, did he draft you Kevin
57:40
Speaker 1: Colbert there? I don't think he was. Yeah, that's uh yeah,
57:44
Speaker 1: that's just twenty twenty years. He's been there, so you
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Speaker 1: would have been before that. Yeah, just gotched curious. I
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Speaker 1: wonder if he was on staff, Yeah, probably would know
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Speaker 1: it was he a long time. They don't get rid of.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't. Let's take a look at
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Speaker 1: Thursday night football tonight. The Kansas City Chiefs four and
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Speaker 1: two and the Broncos at two and fourth is at
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Speaker 1: Mile High tonight. Patrick Mahomes has been hobbled a little
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Speaker 1: bit lately. The Broncos might have found their sea legs
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Speaker 1: and well, I don't know, that might be overselling it
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Speaker 1: a little bit. They were over. They were over four
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Speaker 1: to start the season. They've won a couple in a row.
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Speaker 1: How do you like this game tonight? Division game at
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Speaker 1: Mile High? It's always fun. I think it's a good
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Speaker 1: football game. I'm gonna be watching it. I can tell
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Speaker 1: you that Patrick Mahomes, Um, They're offenses hasn't been quite
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Speaker 1: as good lately. You had what back to back games
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Speaker 1: against the NFC South opponent with Texans last week and
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Speaker 1: then the colt before that, and uh they got Tyreek
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Speaker 1: killed back. Yes, I had him in fantasy this past week.
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Speaker 1: We did well. He did pretty good. I think this
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Speaker 1: is a really good football game and Uh, because it's
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Speaker 1: a it's a strength first, the strength that the Broncos
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Speaker 1: defense is obviously their strength, and then they're all fence
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Speaker 1: against a Kanci chief defense that's not as powerful. So
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Speaker 1: it should be a really good football game. Yeah, rivalry game.
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Speaker 1: It'll be close. Well, I think the Cancie Chiefs to
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Speaker 1: get him in the end late lay second field goal,
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Speaker 1: last second field goal. Though, I think it's will be that.
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Speaker 1: I like that. Leon, Well done. We'll see you on Sunday. Sunday.
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Speaker 1: I'll be here, He'll be back. We'll be back in
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Speaker 1: a moment for the Doug Maron show that's right after this.
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