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George Carneal: Diversity Delusion, Hallmark Caves To LGBTQ · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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And today, you know, good news, bad news.
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But let's bring in the guest day, George Carneal back with us.
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Jeff, you want to put up his book on the cover there, the book cover on the screen so people can see it.
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We've talked about this many, many times, but queer from queer to Christ,
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that's George's true story.
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And he doesn't hold back on some of the anguish and some of the hard times he went through
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out in California as a homosexual and living that lifestyle for decades.
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And now, of course, he lives down south.
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And he is born again, believer.
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I just love this brother.
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And I love the way he articulates with boldness and compassion.
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And that's a great combination for truth proclaimers.
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And I want to bring him in.
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George Carneal, welcome back to World View Matters.
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Brother, good to see you.
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Thank you, Dave.
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Glad to be back.
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Yep.
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So, let's go right to the low hanging fruit, like we mentioned.
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And my question to you is, is anything sacred anymore?
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Hallmark channel.
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Hallmark channel.
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Now they're leaning into more LGBTQ content.
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And they're vowing more, quote, inclusion in 2024.
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What does that mean?
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Well, the first of all, let me mention the CEO, Bill Habit.
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He was frustrated by the company's decision to take Hallmark in a more progressive direction.
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So he moved on.
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He left.
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And he has formed the great American family, which is a booming entertainment alternative
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that's spent TV's fastest growing network this year.
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Viewers up 150%.
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That's great American family.
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So he left Hallmark.
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And according to Hallmark's executive VP, George, Lisa Hamilton Daily said next year will be their most diverse yet.
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So here we go talking about DEI, the agenda diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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Share your thoughts on that and on Hallmark's decision.
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And whatever you want to talk to us about.
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Don't you just love their buzz words and, you know, it's always about diversity and equity, whatever.
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Yeah, it's clearly, you know, David, I don't know if it's arrogance or stupidity with these corporations.
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You would think at some point they would look at the fallout from Target and from Best Buy or I think it's Best Buy.
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But, um, Bud Light.
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Yes, that's who I'm trying to think of.
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And these other companies and you and how things are tanking at the box office and, you know, Netflix people are canceling that.
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Yeah, Disney as well.
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Perfect.
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You would think that they would wake up at some point, but I don't know if it's arrogance or stupidity, but you know what?
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We can definitely show them how we feel by our pocketbook and by not watching this stuff.
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I really wish America as a whole with really boycott Hollywood altogether.
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Don't watch the award shows. Don't go to the movies.
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Don't shop at these corporations. Don't go to the ball games.
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Literally do nothing to support any of this woke stuff.
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At some point when they'll go bankrupt, maybe they'll say we should have listened to the American people.
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I don't think that'll happen, but Georgia, I agree with you and let's talk briefly about this.
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This wasn't on the plan for today, but you're kind of referring to a parallel economy being a faith driven consumer.
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We do not support companies, corporations that are, that are hostile toward the biblical world, you're the Christian faith.
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But we a lot of people do.
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We're giving them money.
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We're watching their programs and you have a great point because that's one place where we can take action.
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The box office is the, I mean, some people don't necessarily get it on TV because it's TV programming.
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But there's money at the box office. You got to pay to get a movie ticket.
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So Hollywood has lost a lot of money.
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But George, you said you're not sure if it was arrogance or stupidity.
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You know, I think it's something deeper than that.
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I think this is a demonic, demonically influenced ideology.
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The agenda behind that's driving all this.
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So corporations can lose millions of them.
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Look at Target.
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They've lost millions of dollars.
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And Bud Light has, Starbucks probably has McDonald's.
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There's some of these corporations and places we know we can choose other alternatives to all of these.
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But your thoughts on that, their chances are they're not going to learn because they're so ideologically driven.
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What do you think about that?
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Well, David, your audience may not know this, but there are actually gays and lesbians who are tired of the corporations pandering to them.
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They know they really, at the end of the day, don't give a flip about them.
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It's just that it's all the LGBT community is to these corporations is a dollar sign.
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Now, if they were to go back to the 80s when the very few corporations came out and stood in favor of the LGBT community,
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those were there when it wasn't popular to do.
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I mean, if they're going to support someone support, you know, those who supported you at the beginning.
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But right now, I would seriously boycott any corporation who panders to the LGBT community,
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because even the lesbians and gays are tired of it.
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They're tired of the transgender issue. They're tired of all of this.
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You know, everybody has the rights now.
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Nobody's being harmed.
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They, you know, make like everybody's out to do the LGBT community and,
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or the feminists or BLM, it's just always the victimhood mentality.
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And you know what?
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They're so narcissistic, what they failed to realize is that nobody's thinking about them,
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because in this day and age with that idiot that we have in office,
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we're just trying to keep a roof over our head, groceries on the table, gas in the car,
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and hopefully still have a job.
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So nobody's thinking about their gender pronouns and all of this other nonsense.
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But that's what they're putting out there.
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You're right.
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The energy costs, I mean, to heat your home or to air conditioner.
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Yeah, the cost of living has gone up and that hits our pocketbooks.
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And they're putting all these other issues out there.
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And just, you know what I mean?
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That's a good reminder.
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Yeah, it's a good reminder, friends, to just make sure we're keeping the right perspective here.
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But let's go back to this issue on Hallmark.
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Your mom watches Hallmark.
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My mom watches Hallmark.
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And they're talking about more, and I'm quoting queer forward movies,
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like Christmas on Sherry Lane.
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I've never seen it, but it's romance, I guess.
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And then a lesbian romance, friends and family Christmas,
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which aired December 17, so that's just recently.
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So, Allie Liebert is a lesbian actress.
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And she stars in friends and family Christmas.
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And she is one of the budding producers at Hallmark.
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And they're counting on her to, quote,
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bring the company more LGBTQ representation.
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Quote, as I move forward as a producer and hopefully director,
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Liebert said, I'm focusing on really taking the opportunity to create queer content.
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And, quote, full stop.
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George Carneal, we heard Disney executives do this within the last five years,
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openly on a video chat or a Zoom call or whatever,
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saying we're going to produce more queer content.
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We want more of these characters in our,
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even the animated features, but we're talking Hallmark now.
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So, they're doubling down.
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They don't care who knows about it.
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This is not a secret.
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They're very proud about it.
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So, before we move on to the next article,
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what are your final thoughts on this?
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Because she's an actress and producer on this for Hallmark.
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They would imagine if they, if there were holiday films
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about the Jewish holidays or Muslim holidays,
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and they started to introduce these LGBTQ characters,
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it will never happen.
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It's always attacked the Christian faith.
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And we just say here and let them steamroll right over us.
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And that's why we have to boycott everything.
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Turn the television off.
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Get out there and enjoy your family.
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Have dinner with them.
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Boycott these people into bankruptcy.
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It's always going to learn.
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Yep.
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I agree.
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Family Research Council's Joseph Blackholm said
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progressiveism increasingly prides itself on not being in touch
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with the average American.
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So, there's kind of a delusion.
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They've got these blenders on there.
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So, ideologically driven and committed to the demonic.
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You know, that's the way I put it.
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Yeah, they might lose a lot of money,
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but for some reason they'll get through it
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and they'll keep pushing it no matter what.
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It really sounds crazy to you and I
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or to someone like a business owner.
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You know, but yeah, these companies are big enough.
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I guess they can take those kind of hits
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and they'll keep going.
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So, George, we've got to move on to the next article already.
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You sent me this one, the National Institute of Health.
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What do you think of friends watching and listening?
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When you hear about the NIH, the National Institute of Health?
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Well, I think of helping people learn about sicknesses,
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viruses, keeping people healthy or whatever,
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working to endorse health.
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Well, this is what they're doing, what they consider health.
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They're funding a program that's matching LGBT teens and adults
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for mentoring without parental consent.
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And the NIH approved a grant of nearly a half a million dollars.
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Where does that money come from, by the way,
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to fund an online mentoring program
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and preparing teenagers with adults
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on the internet, George Carneal, what could go wrong?
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Oh, yeah, what could go wrong?
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Just some potential grooming, that's all.
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Sadly, yeah.
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Imagine if they took the same gay and lesbian teenagers
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and say if they were missing a father or a mother influence
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and paired them up with heterosexual, good, healthy men and women
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to lead them and guide them, especially in Christian,
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and just lead them on a different path.
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Oh, that will never happen.
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So, again, they are determined to skirt everything
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and do it behind the parents' backs.
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And it's just said that they're not giving them
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the right kind of influence.
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I know for me, when I was struggling with this issue,
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I couldn't talk to my father.
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But I wished I'd had a really healthy male influence,
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I was afraid of feelings, but who would listen,
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who was heterosexual, who was fully sold out to God
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to talk to me and just helped me during a really rough patch
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of my life even as a teenager.
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That's what those teenagers really need.
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Yeah.
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I think one of the things that we're mixing
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and it's really confusing when something like the NIH
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and government comes into this.
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But we know the government is they're pushing these agendas
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whether it's corporations, the public school system,
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Hollywood, the entertainment industry.
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This one's called the Teen Connection Project
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because they're trying to reach kids.
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A great pastor, friend of mine from New Mexico,
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says they cannot reproduce so they have to recruit.
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Yes.
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So, they're trying to reach kids.
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And this Teen Connection Project is set to run
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until the end of January 2025.
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And it claims that one of the problems, George,
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with most of these youth adult LGBTQ
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quote mentoring programs, is that they require parental consent.
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So that's a problem to them.
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That's interesting, isn't it?
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We're seeing the battle for parents' rights
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and parental consent across the country.
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Oh, they have definitely made it clear.
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Really, they want to strip the rights away from the parents.
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And they're going to continue to try to get away with
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as much as they can if we allow that to happen.
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Parents better wake up, get their children
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out of the public school system too,
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where they are being groomed.
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Yeah.
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And watch out for your, if you love your neighbor,
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you will also care about their children
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in your community and your neighborhood as well.
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I wrote about this a little bit in a chapter on
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the Marxist roots of DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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And the NIH gave the University of Michigan
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$16 million.
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And that's just one college.
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So where does this come in?
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The NIH, National Institute of Health,
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is working with universities and programs like this,
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matching LGBTQ teens and adults,
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and you're thinking, what's going on here?
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Well, they all have the same agenda.
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We have to understand that.
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But I want to read a quote from the article,
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and then we've got to take a quick break here.
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Dr. Nathaniel Blake is with the Ethics
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and Public Policy Center,
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and he said to the college, fix,
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deliberately pairing adult strangers
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with children without parental knowledge,
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let alone consent, is a bad idea,
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especially because these adult mentors
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are to be recruited online,
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and apparently not required to have any special training
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or skills other than a transgender identity.
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So that's your qualification.
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Is on their LGBTQ or transgender?
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Okay, it's not okay now.
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Okay, we just doesn't matter what their experience
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or the background is.
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This is just really astounding.
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So George Carneal is our guest.
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And now let's talk a little bit about the transgenders.
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I talked about a friend of ours, a Laura Perry Smalt,
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who, former transgender, she lived as Jake.
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I believe nine years had the surgeries changed her name.
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Cannot have children.
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But she came to Christ.
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I don't know how many years ago exactly must be four or five.
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I'm guessing.
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And now she's happily married, which is a miracle.
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Perry, her husband, knew she couldn't have children
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because of the transgender surgeries.
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And they're happily married.
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And they've got an amazing ministry.
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God put them together.
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So let God write your story, friends.
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Know that you are created just the way he wants you.
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You don't have to change yourself physically
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or to please him or to be anything you're not supposed to be.
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George, just recently, we're seeing more males win races
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in competitions against girls.
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It really is astounding.
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Where are the feminists?
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But the latest case, a transgender cyclist took gold
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in a major race.
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Uh-oh.
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The person also took silver, a different person,
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a different trans.
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So two transgender athletes captured gold and silver.
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This was in Illinois.
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It was a major cycling competition.
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And we're seeing this across the country.
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We're so thankful for the voice of Riley Gaines
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and others who are testifying about this and trying to save
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and protect women's sports.
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I know you're not a woman, but I know you have strong thoughts
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on this because men are trying to steal.
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I mean, beauty contests.
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I mean, there have been homecoming queens awarded.
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I've seen it in Missouri just a couple of months ago,
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to a boy, a senior, I guess.
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So George, this is another part of this,
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the crazy ideology that's just, uh, it's nonstop.
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Yes, where are the feminists?
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And as they've tried to lead us to believe for many decades,
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you know, a woman can do anything a man can do.
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There may be some areas where that's possible,
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that they are really seeing how much strength the male has.
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But what I hope to see from this data,
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if you remember a couple of decades ago,
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there were feminists who were suing all men's organizations
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stating that you're being sexist.
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And men don't have a right to safe spaces.
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But you're always hearing about women who scream
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and cry and complain that they want safe spaces.
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So I'm hoping that if they come through this,
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that they will be respectful of men who decide they want safe spaces,
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just like I believe that women should have their safe spaces.
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There's a time and place where women need to connect with each other
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and there's a time and place where men need to connect with each other
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and stop all of this, oh, it's sexist and but, you know,
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it's okay for women to have safe spaces but not men.
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So I hope I believe they're getting a little taste of their medicine and this
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and hopefully they'll be more respectful
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if they can stop this insanity.
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So there is some pushback.
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We're hearing more and more about it.
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Unfortunately, some sad cases of people that were suicidal
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and by the way, the suicide rate has spiked.
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At least the suicide attempt rate.
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And if you think about it, if the kids are told from, you know,
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young school children on that there is no God, no creator,
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you have no purpose, you are whatever, just temporary.
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Life is random and man, talk about a recipe for disaster.
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But in 2022, last year, the US market size
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for gender transition surgery was estimated to be $2.1 billion.
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George, it's estimated to grow to over $3.1 billion by 2032.
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So this is one of the dilemmas we're faced with
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but there's some good news in that lawsuits from detransitioners,
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which the media won't talk about, Hollywood won't talk about,
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you know, the Democrat Party won't talk about detransitioners.
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There are lawsuits coming up, one of them, a couple teenagers
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read in recent cases that are suing their doctors.
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In one case, Kaiser Permanente for advising her to undergo
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gender transition procedures over a five-year period,
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starting when she was 13.
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Make the point, if it starts when she's 13,
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the buildup to that was programming and affirmation
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and when she was nine years old, 10, 11, and 12,
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to start the surgeries and the serious changes.
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So the radical changes.
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George, your thoughts, detransitioners are on the rise
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and I hope conservative outlets will get that truth out there.
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David, I'm so glad you mentioned the suicide rate
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because even in Europe, where they are very pro-LGBT,
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very liberal.
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If you look at the transgender suicide rate over there,
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it's just as high.
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So when somebody tries to use the guilt trip that you're
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harming people and these Christians are so narrow-minded,
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it has nothing to do with that.
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The individuals who are detransitioning are admitting
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I should not have been fast-tracked through this system.
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I should have been given counseling, even they are admitting this.
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And if, like, I have a lot of information about this on page
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two of my website, georgecarniel.com.
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But if you go to YouTube and listen to transition regret
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transition, detransitioners, and just listen to the heartbreaking stories,
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I hope that if they know of anyone who's thinking about going down
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into that path that they will seriously listen to these men and women
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and what has happened to them, the botched surgeries,
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the infections, the complications, and how they have admitted,
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now I had a lot of problems before and now I have an onslaught
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of more problems.
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You can't change your gender.
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It's a money-making business.
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Well, I think one of the things in there arsenal is a lie saying
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that if you love someone, you will affirm them.
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Right?
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And so that.
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And so let's talk about that.
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Or love is love, george.
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Love is love.
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Let them do what they want.
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You know, they're not hurting me personally.
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Why do I care?
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Let them do what they want.
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Love is love.
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Well, it's not true.
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First of all, they've redefined love.
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They've flipped that on its head.
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And they're calling evil good and good evil.
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So your thoughts on that before we go to the next article?
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Yeah.
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When I was in the lifestyle, I heard all of that.
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I still didn't have any peace.
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No one I knew had any peace.
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A lot of drug alcohol, sex addiction, suicidal thoughts,
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people who do attempt suicide, people who've lost everything from getting involved in that lifestyle.
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It's a very dangerous and destructive lifestyle.
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For anyone who has not lived the lifestyle, listen to people like me and Laura and so many others who are giving you the truth and the reality of what it's like to be fully immersed in the LGBT lifestyle.
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You will find no peace in that lifestyle and especially find no peace when you are doing something that is in direct rebellion to God's word.
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Okay.
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You sent me a few articles.
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I want to get to at least one of them or videos.
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Let's talk about the Israeli communist that calls out LGBTQ plus activists who are backing Palestine.
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And where is that at the here we go.
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He said his words are, I welcome the LGBTQ community to go to Gaza.
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Let them bring their flags.
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Let them go to Gaza.
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Let them fight for human rights there.
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Let's see what happens.
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George, I mean, they don't understand.
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They're so ignorant and naive about what this fight is about.
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So go ahead and share your thoughts.
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This is what happens when the LGBT community is more focused on their victimhood and identity politics and their orgasms versus studying history.
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And if they actually listened to gay Palestinians, I've heard them actually say that they've had family members threatened them with rape or murder for being in that lifestyle.
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And I think that they have been physically mentally abused by the police.
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Some have been executed.
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I've seen videos of gay men thrown off of the top of buildings and even hung by cranes because they are so anti homosexuality.
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And even there are some Palestinians who believe that homosexuality is worse than murder.
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So here you have Israel, the most pro LGBT middle eastern country.
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And these people are fighting against them.
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Whereas the rest of the middle east pretty much condemns homosexuality.
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And I don't understand the mindset of these people.
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They're still programmed by CNN and these other idiot liberal outlets.
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And it's interesting.
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All these different groups are kind of aligning on the left.
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But they all represent different things.
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And especially in this case, very quickly you sent me a story on Tulsi Gabbard who said LGBTQ plus activists at pro Palestine marches don't understand that Islamists want to kill them.
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And hello, yes, there's another person who's finally saying, here's this is the truth.
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But people are, how do they respond to her, by the way?
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So they will support the democratic party who supports Islam, the very people that want to kill them.
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But and the party of the KKK, but they won't do their research and look at history.
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But then they just believe the talking points that the Republicans are the ones who are anti whatever.
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And you, they don't, the thing is is they think they're so smart, but they're so smug and arrogant and self righteous.
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You can't even reason with them. You can't even get them to stop for a moment and see am I being lied to and do the research themselves.
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But thank God there are gaze and lesbians who see the truth.
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They've defected the democratic party. They know exactly what it's about.
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It's just going to take some time to try to wake up the masses.
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And that's part of the reason we have you on the show and a lot of the guests we get to talk to is we are trying to first of all.
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Make sure the church gets it. If you're in the word of God, if you are at here to the biblical world view, you're hopefully maturing in your walk with Christ and your foundation is solid and unshakable.
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That is the word of God. But then we're trying to encourage you.
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There's a lot of people still in the church that don't know a lot of this or don't understand what we're seeing and why things are happening.
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And of course, then outside of the church, that's our we need to share the truth. Love the gospel.
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Mary Christmas, we're getting close to Christmas here and we're celebrating that. What is that? That's Jesus Christ. God became flesh and dwelt among us and gave us a way to be saved eternally and give us salvation, not based on anything we could do to earn it.
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But it's a free gift. That's why we still make Christmas as giving Jesus Christ. God in the flesh gave us this gift. And that's what we celebrate his birth.
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It wasn't December, but let's just say it was September. It doesn't matter. We're celebrating what we have in Christ.
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The piece that you mentioned that you can't have any other way. You can't get peace any other way. True peace. Your final thoughts on this George and just on Christmas and what we have to look forward to.
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David, I'm thankful I had Christians who weren't woke who did lovingly lovingly teach me the truth of God's word.
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And I am now out of that bondage and I've been out of it for 16 years. You can get out of that. Life does not revolve around sex and sexuality.
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Christians, you need to stop being cowards. You need to start doing what God commands you to do. And as speaking, the truth of God's word in love spread the gospel.
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Worn them about this LGBT agenda and stop worrying about offending people, but worrying about worry about offending God because he's the one we answer to.
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They must know the truth. Amen. Amen.
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And if we love people, we will tell them the truth. There's a different ways you can do it lovingly, respectfully. Sometimes you've got to be bold about it, depending on the person.
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That's where the Holy Spirit comes in and leads us in how we can approach each situation, each person. But Georgia, I love your brother. You have a Merry Christmas. It's always great to have you on Lord willing. We'll talk in the new year.
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All right. Thank you, David. All right. We'll talk to you soon. All right. George Carneal George Carneal.com. Make sure to check out his book if you haven't yet.
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And we'll talk to him again. Lord, my goodness. I'm so blessed with the people we have coming up and the people get to talk to.
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By the way, we got a special announcement coming up for the beginning of the year. I'm going to just kind of tease that right now.
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But I want to thank everybody who's given. Did I rattle off the states already? I think I did.
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I've mentioned all the states of the people that have given. We've got to wrap this up. Time is running out on me very quickly.
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God bless you, friends. Merry Christmas. And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.