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Furness Show 10-8: Stewart Mandel, Drake Thomas and Mike Holmgren · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome in on a Wednesday afternoon. We are
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  Speaker 2: going to check in with a lot of football today.
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  Speaker 2: We've got our good friend Stewart Mandel will join us
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  Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour, well not even bottom
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  Speaker 2: of the ar I'm thinking it, what one twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Or so, right, Yeah, it's in like fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have Stuart Mandel joining us. Last US time
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  Speaker 2: to get to college football. Get to that in just
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  Speaker 2: a couple of seconds. Also, Mike Hombrin at two pm today.
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  Speaker 3: We can't wait to hear from coach.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get the coaches thoughts on Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 2: which we'll do. I'm more on that in a second.
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  Speaker 2: And we're gonna checking with Drake Thomas, Seahawk linebacker. He
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  Speaker 2: is number forty two in your program, number one of
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  Speaker 2: your hearts. He has been playing quite a bit for
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks and well, here's an interesting thing. Started his
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  Speaker 2: first game ever in the NFL against Arizona. Started his
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  Speaker 2: second game ever last week against Tampa Bay. He is
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  Speaker 2: a good story. Undrafted free agent from North Carolina State
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  Speaker 2: ends up getting going with the to the Raiders camp
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  Speaker 2: last two years ago, got cut in August, came to Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: hurt his knee on the practice squad, kind of sat
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  Speaker 2: out for a year last year, bounced up and down,
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  Speaker 2: back and forth a little bit with the team, and
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  Speaker 2: now has find himself a nice little role. Tyrese Knight
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  Speaker 2: and him kind of rotate is the inside linebacker, which
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  Speaker 2: they play two at a time, next to Ernest Jones.
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  Speaker 2: So he's had a nice little, nice little story for
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  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas, and we'll talk to him, get to know
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  Speaker 2: him a little bit coming up at one forty five.
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  Speaker 2: My assumption is they'll use him a lot, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just they a running quarterback in Lawrence kind of
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  Speaker 2: falls in that category, sort of in a different way
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  Speaker 2: in terms of stature than certainly terms how he looks
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  Speaker 2: than Baker Mayfield. But we'll expect to see him play
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  Speaker 2: quite a bit, I would assume on Sunday, I want
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  Speaker 2: to get his thoughts on Tregor Lawrence as well Jesse
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  Speaker 2: like this. You know me, I'm I'm pretty much done
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  Speaker 2: with the world of tweeting, twitters stuff like that. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: I'm told to do stuff, but really just I just
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  Speaker 2: I don't care anyway. So I did a morning show
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  Speaker 2: today with the guys in jack. So a guy calls
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  Speaker 2: me yesterday and text me and goes, hey, can you
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  Speaker 2: come on and talk Seahawks? And I said, yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell, we'll talk. See you want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the last night. You guys are a minor league city.
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  Speaker 2: You you don't have a.
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  Speaker 3: Did not witness those when I was in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 2: Ten ten XL is the station. So I went on
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  Speaker 2: this morning with Fat Tony, uh and it's part and
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  Speaker 2: they said, what's the difference, what will be the difference
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  Speaker 2: in the game? On Sunday I said, quarterback likes guys
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  Speaker 2: better than your guy. Your guys not very good, Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, they lost their mind. I might as
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  Speaker 2: well have said something about their mom and their wife,
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  Speaker 2: like they lost their mind.
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  Speaker 3: Wait did they put it out also?
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  Speaker 2: Now I'll say this, Fat Tony and company, I think
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  Speaker 2: they have a well listened to show or at least
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  Speaker 2: a well listened to show you.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I have, and we are very much almost as
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  Speaker 4: far away as we can get in the country.
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  Speaker 2: We are. That's about as far as you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I am aware of that shoe.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see big will ninety nine oh four Ian Finnez
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  Speaker 2: keep that same energy after the Jaguars do this, this
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  Speaker 2: and this? Okay, perfect, let's see yeah, please, yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: know I'll see you soon, buddy. I'm not going, but
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  Speaker 2: that's cool. Let's see what else. Let's see Sam darnlingd
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  Speaker 2: being Yell's coreer advanage is certainly a take. He is
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, after all, I would I would say, well,
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  Speaker 2: tell me you haven't watched the Seahawks play this year
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  Speaker 2: without telling me you haven't watched the Seahawks play this year anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I really, I'm I'm rooting hard now for a bad
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  Speaker 2: meltdown by Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 3: Just a safe face, hey, route to be right this week.
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  Speaker 2: I'm rooting to be right with this one. Yes, I'm
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  Speaker 2: definitely rooting to be right with this one. There's no
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  Speaker 2: doubt about that. No, it was it was. It was fun.
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  Speaker 2: I like going on with those guys. I do chuckle guys,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care Jacksonville. I I tried to be nice
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  Speaker 2: about the city. I said, listen, I was there in
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  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. We covered the game. The last time the
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  Speaker 2: Sax played in Jacksonville, by the way, was twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, holy crab. I didn't realize it was that.
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  Speaker 2: A long time ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and not a party city.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like. If you're being safe, Well, here's the
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  Speaker 2: thing I gave them. I said on the I said
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  Speaker 2: on the air, of those guys said I I probably
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  Speaker 2: need to go back sometime because when we went there
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  Speaker 2: it was post hurricane. I'm not sure which hurricane, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not diminishing that by any means. They named him
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  Speaker 2: every year. I don't know which what name that was,
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  Speaker 2: but like it was just it was awful, like it
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  Speaker 2: was nothing and not that the city was destroyed, but
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  Speaker 2: there had been enough water and stuff, and it was
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  Speaker 2: just kind of where we stayed there was it was
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  Speaker 2: a big nothing burger. Couldn't find a place to eat,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I couldn't find any place to get a coffee, like,
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  Speaker 2: oh really outside of the ballroom in the hotel, which
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  Speaker 2: had like it was just a bad experience, everything about
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville's bad experience.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I was staying right on the waterfront by the
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  Speaker 4: little river that goes through there, and so we stayed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the marry out there. Yeah, I worked the world's largest
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  Speaker 4: cocktail party.
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  Speaker 2: Oh did you?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Oh nice?
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  Speaker 3: And so I did that in twenty ten.
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  Speaker 2: And that did they play in that in the jag Stadium?
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  Speaker 3: They do? Okay, yeah, well they did.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if they continue that tradition, but we yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we we did it.
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  Speaker 3: And I had an ESPN crew coming in, so I
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  Speaker 3: had to be there early. So I spent three days
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  Speaker 3: down there.
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  Speaker 4: But you didn't want to go outside that half mile radio.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing that they do have there, which I
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  Speaker 2: would be way into, is they got great golf around
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  Speaker 2: that area.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I saw dolphin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, saw dolphin in the river. Oh wow, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: No, it was great.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't see anything like that. I was there with
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  Speaker 2: my great photographer Erica, and we're like, uh, oh, where
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  Speaker 2: do we get a coffee? There isn't one. Listen, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a huge Starbucks fan, but like I was thinking,
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  Speaker 2: it's south, it should be able to find dunkin Donuts.
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  Speaker 2: You can find that, you can find nothing.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's East.
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  Speaker 2: So I had to be nice these guys. But I'm like, listen, man,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, your city sucks. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: just does.
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  Speaker 4: I got a followed to a grocery store. I was
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  Speaker 4: trying to get a sandwich or something that I can
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  Speaker 4: take back to my room. I got followed and turned back.
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  Speaker 2: Why did you get you get some gas station sushi?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to That's what I was trying to avoid.
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  Speaker 2: Gas station.
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  Speaker 3: I just ate sleep for dinner.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was. It was bad. Anyway, I
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  Speaker 2: hope she has to go down there to kick their ass,
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  Speaker 2: just as so I can kind of chuckle.
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  Speaker 3: No offense, Trevor. But we're not rooting for your hair,
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I just look at that guy, and I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: remember when he can't when he went to college as
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  Speaker 2: a freshman, Like this guy, this guy could start in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL right now. He's the biggest camp miss prospect
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  Speaker 2: in the history of the league. Blah blah blah. And
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  Speaker 2: he's never done anything. Now they're having a good season
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  Speaker 2: this year. A lot of a lot of us are
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  Speaker 2: defense is really good. You watch him play at times,
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  Speaker 2: you think, man, I think this cat like I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he gets it. Like, I just don't think he
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  Speaker 2: gets it sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: Don't think he's been met with the adversity that a
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  Speaker 4: lot of us faith in life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just like, you're gonna be the but
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  Speaker 2: he has. He has struggled, no doubt. So anyway, go Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 2: Go Jags. Douvo. Yeah, they were telling me about I.
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  Speaker 3: Do like their fans because you've got to be true
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  Speaker 3: and true for that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the and I will say this, the game we
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  Speaker 2: went to down there, it was bad like Seahawks lost it.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of the beginning of the end for Seattle. Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that it was kind of the beginning. It was kind
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  Speaker 2: of when things were going south. And I believe I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to look this up, I think Jesse, if
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. Was that the first year? That might
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  Speaker 2: have been the first year did they get to the playoffs? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't get to the playoffs that year. Nine and seven,
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  Speaker 2: not in that was that was the year they didn'tet
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  Speaker 2: to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I remember that last game too, because they already
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  Speaker 4: knew during that game they weren't going to make it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were. They finished, they finished nine and seven.
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  Speaker 2: That was the year that they had gone to the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs one, two, three, four, five straight years and six
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  Speaker 2: of the seven under Carroll and Schneider, and they didn't
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  Speaker 2: go that year. I want to say that was also
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  Speaker 2: the year that is that the year that we had
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  Speaker 2: a nice little holdout from our good friend Cam Cam.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they yeah, they didn't go next That's why they
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  Speaker 4: didn't go to the next year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the year. Yeah green Bay lost at
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  Speaker 2: home to Green Bay. Yeah, it was it was what
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  Speaker 2: it was away, I Digress. All right, listen, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get into a lot of college football today. Stuart
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  Speaker 2: Mandale's going to join us coming up next, and Stu
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  Speaker 2: was gonna who's in and who's out as far as
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  Speaker 2: the college football playoff is concerned. Are we looking at
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame still having a chance to get in with
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  Speaker 2: their two losses? What about Texas? How Sark after Dark?
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  Speaker 2: Is he still have a chance to get in as well?
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  Speaker 2: We'll also talk to him about some big matchups this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Oregon Indiana near the top of the list, so a
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  Speaker 2: lot to get to. Also the Bill Belichick horror show
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  Speaker 2: that's going on in Carolina. So all things college football
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  Speaker 2: is Stuart Mandel, Drake Thomas from the Seahawks at one
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  Speaker 2: forty five, and the coach Mike Hongrian two o'clock. Don't
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  Speaker 2: forget we also have a fact or fiction pick coming
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Our good friend Stuart Mandel
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  Speaker 2: joins is his week we visit talking all things college football.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of stuff to get into this week. Hello sir,
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  Speaker 2: how are you good?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 2: You obviously fixed whatever's going on. It's stew the stew
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  Speaker 2: of state is, as Bruce called it, Ralph called it.
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  Speaker 2: I missed I missed you on the Audible podcast yesterday
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  Speaker 2: with with all the picks. But sounds like things are
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  Speaker 2: well in hand there, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I'm excited for people to see the new backdrop on
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  Speaker 6: the next next episode on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Did you do it yourself or is it like mine?
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  Speaker 2: The one I use for my stuff? Okay, my wife
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  Speaker 2: did mine.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't be even fuld a box put in the show.
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  Speaker 2: I got to do one finally, and and my wife
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  Speaker 2: did it for me, so I know the feeling all right,
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  Speaker 2: let's uh, you know what, I'm gonna start with the
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  Speaker 2: saalacious fun rumor crazy. Everyone wants to know what's going
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  Speaker 2: on and uh and all of that. Uh, and that's
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  Speaker 2: uh the world of of North Carolina football and Bill
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  Speaker 2: Belichick and what the hell is going on there? It's
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  Speaker 2: obviously been a struggle.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And they canceled the Hulu series. I didn't even know
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  Speaker 2: there was a Hulu series? But what are we going?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on there? Right now?
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  Speaker 6: They're bad? Right, They're really bad. And I think it's
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  Speaker 6: pretty clear that something went terribly wrong in constructing the roster.
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  Speaker 6: Bill Belichick and his GM Michael Lombardi came in and
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  Speaker 6: seemed certain that they could outsmart everybody in the portal
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  Speaker 6: and salary cap and free agency because their NFL experience.
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  Speaker 6: I've been talking to some people agents and whatnot, and
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  Speaker 6: it just seems like they didn't grasp it at all.
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  Speaker 6: And so you have a roster that, frankly might not
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  Speaker 6: even have been a good group of five roster. They've
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  Speaker 6: been blown out, just really uncompetitive in the three games
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  Speaker 6: they've played against Power four teams. And you know, Clemson
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  Speaker 6: had really been struggling on offense all season. They that
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  Speaker 6: game starts and it's clear they're going to be able
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  Speaker 6: to name their score UCF. I don't even think is
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  Speaker 6: really that good, and they blew them out. So think
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  Speaker 6: you know, obviously people are frustrated there. People are starting,
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  Speaker 6: you know, things are starting to come out. Bruce Selmyn
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  Speaker 6: reported that one of their assistants has been suspended for
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  Speaker 6: an extra benefits violation. I don't can't say I've blamed
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  Speaker 6: them for canceling to who. I'm sure UNC wanted no
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  Speaker 6: part of that because it's not going to be very flattering.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that story from that. Ste reported that
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking, what are can you define, Stuart Mandel,
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  Speaker 2: what extra benefits are in today's college football? I thought
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  Speaker 2: everything was an extra benefit ye.
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  Speaker 6: In this specific case and this there was a W
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  Speaker 6: hope I don't get this wrong. W r R A
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  Speaker 6: L and Raleigh had a story with a bunch of
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  Speaker 6: anonymous clothes from parents, and one of them was talked
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  Speaker 6: about how one of the player's families had free UH
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  Speaker 6: sideline passes and parking passes and so, I mean, I
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  Speaker 6: can't really explain this to somebody. You know, what's coming
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  Speaker 6: in from the outside. But it is legal to give
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  Speaker 6: players seven figure contracts, but it is not legal to
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  Speaker 6: give the sideline passes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that makes sense, as everything does these days, saysn't
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  Speaker 2: it. It goes back to the Rick Majeri says he can't
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  Speaker 2: buy a kid of pizza, you know, when he was
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  Speaker 2: coaching at Utah, Although having worked at Salt Lake at
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  Speaker 2: the time with Rick, I think it was more than pizzas.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll move on. Stuart Mandel joining us here on
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  Speaker 2: the Beacon Publy hotline. We'll stay with the coaches ap
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  Speaker 2: Top twenty five has Penn State out of the top
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. The Coaches poll has them still in at
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  Speaker 2: twenty two, but at three and two and a horrific
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  Speaker 2: I mean just a horrific loss at UCLA. James Franklin
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  Speaker 2: finds himself under some scrutiny again. Is he in any
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  Speaker 2: trouble at Penn State or is he a guy that's
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  Speaker 2: just you know, he's I think you wrote about it.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna win ten or eleven games and you live
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: I never would have said he would be in trouble
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: before Saturday. I mean, as frustrated as the fans were
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: there about continuing to lose in the in the big
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: games like the Organ game. You're not going to fire somebody,
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: especially at that cost the bioticifty six million dollars for
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: winning tileven games the year. But I do think this
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: game was a possibly a point of no return game.
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, this was the team that they spent all
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: this money on, that was built to Winter National Championship,
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: that is all but done in you know, week six,
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: and just an absolutely excusable loss. Now We'll see how
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: the rest of the season plays out. I mean, I
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: don't think it's just this one game. Right Where do
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: they go from here? They have Ohio State and Indiana still.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: Can they win one of those maybe possibly get back
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: into playoff contention. But at the end of the day,
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: it's so clear to everybody there now, like.
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: This is just not going to happen.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: This is not the coach who's going to lead us
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: to glory. It's been twelve years of this and that
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: stuff like this is still happening. By the way that game,
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: if you saw it, there were some really questionable coaching decisions.
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know if they were decisions, just like lapses
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: and game management down the stretch so I know, I
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: don't know how that works. I don't know that Penn
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: State's the school that has an extra fifty million dollars
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: sitting around to buy him out of a contract, or
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: if he himself is going to be like, you know,
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: this is just I'm never gonna you know, the fans
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: are never going to embrace me here. We're just gonna
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: keep doing this over and over again. Should he find
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: an exit plan?
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched a good chunk of that. I was.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I was, it's weird because you know, you can't get
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: into somebody's head, but boy, he looked just stunned, confused,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: And I think we all were watching the game because
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: UCLA has been such a train wreck, like how can
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: a Penn State go there? And it's not like there's
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: a home field advantage for UCLA either, and that that
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: it was. It was just one of the oddest things
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I've seen in college football in a long time. We've
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: seen a lot of oddities.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: It was done. Is there a path for Penn State
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: at all? Is there any path for them to get
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: to the College Football Playoff?
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: Well, I think they'd have to win out, which if
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: they do, it's going to come with a couple of
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: really good, good wins. There's not a lot of reason
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: I faith they can do that though, because he can't.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: He's hardly ever won any big top ten games and
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: need him really in two down the stretch. And then
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: the other thing is, well, look if they can do
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: that went out go ten to to two top tennish wins,
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: they're probably going to get in. But nobody thinks they
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: can do that. Right, No, if you're nine and three
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: with a couple of good wins, and then I think
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: it depends on what UCLA does because it has often
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: been the case that some of these losses that seem
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: so bad at the time, that team ends up not
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: as bad as you thought. Right, So if UCLA is
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: two and ten at the end of the year, no
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: way that the committee's going to You know, overlook that
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: if they're five and seven, there have been teams that've
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: gotten the playoffs before having lost to a five and seventeen.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Suer Mandel joining us here on the b Companent Hotline,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: The Athletic and the Audible Podcast, I'll ask the same question.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I think there is, although I don't think they have
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: many chances for quality wins left Notre Dame still has
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: a chance to get to the college football playoff, much
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: to the chagrin I'm sure of many in the country.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely, because those two losses were close losses.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: The teams are now ranked in the top five. I
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: actually think they're still pretty good. You know, the defense
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: was definitely a problem in those games. That's been better
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: since then. They've got a great quarterback, dere My Love
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: and Jenderium Price at running backs, but they don't have
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: any margin for air, right, So it's whether you think
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: they're good enough to run the table, and I do
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: think they are, And if they do that, it's not
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: even really going to be a question. I know everybody
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: wants to, you know, it's you know, if they hate
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Notre Dame. But I think maybe because we've only been
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: through one year of this, people don't necessarily realize you
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: get to the end of the season, there aren't going
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: to be twelve great teams to put in the playoffs.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: Theyre just aren't. I mean, look at who the teams were.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: Look at who barely missed last year was that nine
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: and three Alabama team with two bad losses. So a
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: ten and two Notre Dame team with two, I would
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: say respectable losses is going to be clearly.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: In pretty interesting game this weekend. STI speaking of playoff teams,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Texas we know was one last year and even two
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: years ago when they played Washington in the MY Finals.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: They're taking I don't know if we still call it
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: the Red River Shootout. I don't know what we call
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it these days. But Oklahoma and Texas I know this.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I guess it's a conference game, right, red real I'm
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: saying Red River rivalry is what it's called now. The
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Red River Rivalry.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: That is what it's called.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: That's what it's called now. Oklahoma Texas and last I checked,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that's now an SEC conference game as well. Cotton Bowl
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: twelve thirty on ABC on Saturday. Oklahoma probably still without
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: in the tier. I believe Texas reeling at three and
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: two and a lot of questions going on with what's
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: going on with Sarks team. I think just first of all,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: you read on that game, and how bad do Sark
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: need this game?
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: I mean my read on the game is I can't
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: believe Texas is favored, and I never should question Vegas,
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: but if you've seen their offensive line, especially in that
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Florida game. And then if you look at what Oklahoma's
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: defense has been doing this year getting to the quarterback,
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: it seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Now, you
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: could say, over Oklahoma, if they don't hy Jeometier, you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: what are they going to do on offense?
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: And there is some there is some speculation he could play.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: We'll see. Texas has to figure out what to do,
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: uh with that offensive line because it's a it's a
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: real problem and one of those ones that I'm kicking
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: myself though I didn't didn't take seriously, I'm going to
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: season anytime you lose four offensive line starters. And so
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: I'm I've gone from being like what the heck is
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: wrong with Arch to being like this poor guy, like
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: he's listened to anything. He can't stand up right. They
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: literally took his helmet off at one point. So yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: I think if there's no Materire, it's more of a
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: toss up game. If Materier does play and play as well,
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: I just don't know how Texas is going to match that.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really good Oklahoma defense that makes stuff. I'm gonna
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: actually I'm gonna go back to Notre Dame for a
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: second if I can, because you probably see metrics with
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: the athletic and see what that. You know, you guys are,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I mean your your world's college football. It's funny you
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: said something there that resonated with me, and I think
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: it's true. A lot of people root against Notre Dame.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: When they got that second loss, people are like, good,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: glad they're not in the college football playoff conversation anymore.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: And again upon further review, they're more than still in
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: it as we just as you just referenced, and of
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of reasons. But Notre Dame is an interesting team.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: It feels like people love to hate them, but they're
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: still good for business in college football, are they not?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure your metrics are, or you see
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: some things that say, hey, writing about Notre Dame is
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: still good for business. Talking about Notre Dame is still
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: good for business.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: You know, obviously they're still obviously one of the big brands,
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: but I don't think it's the way it was thirty
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: years ago. Ohio State is the big brand. Now, you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: Michigan's up there with Notre Dame, Alabama. I mean, if
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: you saw last week the most watched game in college
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: football was a Vanderbilt Alabama game. So that should tell
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: you how how big a brand name that is. I
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: also feel like last year with the rare time where
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: people did notre Dame in the playoffs because they were
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: like kind of the underdog, and then it's just snapped
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: right back this year. You know one thing I've I've
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: all the time I've been doing this, there is just
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: this resounding feeling and opinion that they are gaming the
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: system by not being in a conference. Right, so many
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: people like, why are they going to join a conference?
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: They should be banned from the playoff because they don't
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: play in a conference. And it's like, well, if you
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: actually look at the schedule ratings year in and year out,
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: it's there. It's not their schedule is easier. They really might,
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: you know, like considerably easier than, for instance, most of
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: the Big ten teams.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: It's just not.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, now, they do have a lot I would
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: say volatility from your year, Like if USC is good,
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: then their schedule looks good. If USC is bad that year,
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: there goes one of their you know, their big wins,
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: and so you know, on paper, the teams they have
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: left none of them are ranked particularly high, but it's
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: I don't I've never felt like they have some big
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: advantage if anything, and sometimes it's a disadvantage because they
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: have to take you know, you heard James Franklin blaming
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: the travel for the UH Penn State UCLA game. I
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: mean Notre Dame does that every year, multiple times a year.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: They're always in the big primetime game, which makes for
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: some you know, late nights back. And then you know
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: the fact that you know, for a lot of these opponents,
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: like Notre Dame is their biggest game of the year.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: For Notre Dame, it's not that way. So I'm not
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: making excuses for them, but I just think that if
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: the reason somebody's reading against them is because they're not
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: in the conference, I guess I don't get that.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: What is Stuart Mandel's thoughts on Big Ten coaches complaining
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: about travel?
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: So wow, you just it's a little bit of a
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: spoiler for the episode later accordingly.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: To give give me a synopsis. Then well, yeah, I.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Here's the thing. I do think it's real. I do think.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's been a long list of teams this
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: year that travel cross country and fell into deep holes
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: and some of them came back. Washington came back from
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: twenty ninheing last week. So I do think it's like
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: it is a it's not a it's a real thing.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: But I don't I don't think anybody wants to hear
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: the coaches make excuses like I feel bad for the
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: players I have to do this, But nobody wants to
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: hear the coach make excuses, and especially I mean, the
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: one that killed me last year was mc cronin whining
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: and whining about the bass of the Big Ten putting
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: them into giving this to those terros. I's like, nobody
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: forced you to late to join the Big Ten. You know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: you guys took the money and now this is what happens.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: But I don't think it's a completely preposterous thing to
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: think it might affect some games.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I think mc cronin's I remember having that conversation with
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: my buddy Gary Parrish during the college basketball season about that,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: and the cronin one was laughable. I mean, listen, these
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: guys are all flying on charters, but football charter is
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: far different than a basketball charter, if basketball charter is smaller.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: Not even really about Humpert or anything like that. It's
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: the time zones. Yeah, you know, any of us who
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: have done that like the times you feel the times.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: That Oh yeah, yeah, I know, I did it for
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: sixteen years. It's not fun and I didn't have to
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: play a game, But it's it's you. You made that
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: choice or you your school made that choice along the way.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Speaking of taking everybody's best shot, Alabama falls into that category, Stewart.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: They now sit there at four and one, two and
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: zero in the SEC. You mentioned the Vanderbilt game. They
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: somehow survived pavia Mania and everything else and got to win.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Ty Simpson's thirteen touchdowns one interception on the season so far.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Caylin de Bor after that early loss, seems to have
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: righted the ship, but they got a tough one this
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: week though. They got to go to Missouri, will find
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: out how real number fourteen Missouri is and Alabama hoping
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: not to have a letdown.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: I think Missouri is really good and probably you know,
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: being overlooked. They have the top running back in the
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: country they I mean, Eli drink Wish just does a
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: really good job there. And so it's a tough turnaround
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: from for Alabama, no question. And this is where they've
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: had problem. Mean, when they went in and beat Georgia
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: on the road, that was a big deal because they
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: had broms on the road last year. Here's the thing.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: If Alabama loses this game, I'm sure everybody will freak out.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: You know, that might be their toughest game the rest
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: of the way. They're playing Tennessee at home at South Carolina,
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: LSU at home, Oklahoma at home Eastern no One to
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: play at home at Auburn. Like I think this might
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: be one of It's not the toughest game they have left,
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: and it's definitely a tough spot, but it's gonna be
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: a big moment for Missouri. Like I said, I feel
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: like no matter how much they win, they always get
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: forgotten about their The SEC is forgotten team. So there's
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: a big opportunity for them.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: A couple more things for you, Stewart. Let me start
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: with Oregon Indiana. Indiana's ranked number seven. They're undefeated. It
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: feels like a quiet undefeated, but maybe it's just because
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: it's Indiana and we live in a world of blue
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: bloods and everything else. They did it last year, they're
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: doing it again this year as well. They have to
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: come to Eugene and take on Oregon. It's not across
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the country, but it's a long trip. More importantly, as
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: it's hard to play it like that's like Bloomington's one thing,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Audsin's a whole different other thing, and that should be
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a hell of a battle for Oregon. Taking on Indiana.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: How good is Indiana do you think?
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: In the.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: They were kind of flucid last play, a tough enough schedule, okay,
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: but the big difference in Frando Mendoza. Uh, you know
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: the guy they had last her first work was good
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: and he he did the job. But you know, Fernanda
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: Mendoza could be a first round pick. And all the
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: analytics you know, say that Indiana is right now like
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: a top three, top five team. Now, that is a
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: tough spot they're going into. I will say. Then they
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: went on the road to Iowa, they were not nearly
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: as dominant as they were in a home against Illinois.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: So it's you know, I do expect Orgon to win
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: the game, but it'll be interesting to see what the
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: narrative would be. I mean, if Anyana gets blown out,
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: obviously okay, everybody will say they're frauds. And if they
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: if it's a good game, if it's like that Oregon
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: Penn State game, if they can earn some respect, because
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: people no matter what Illinois was ranked, you know, I
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: know they're not. They don't have that big brand behind them.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: So if if you didn't take that seriously enough. Although
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: I thought that was one of the most impressed performances
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: of the season, We'll see how they compete against Oregon.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering, Stewart, just to wrap things up, you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: like you mentioned Missouri you think is really good. Indiana
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: will find out a little bit too. A and M
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: got a coach's vote, number one vote in the coaches poll.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: You know, Ohio State, Miami, Oregon, Ole, miss A and
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: m Oklahoma, Indiana, Alabama, Texas Tech, Georgia, some semblance of
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: that is your top ten right now? Is there a cutoff,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: like do you feel like it's the three top teams
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: like a lot of people Ohio State, Oregon, Miami and
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a drop after that, or
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: do you think it's a little bit more parody, a
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: little bit more closer together than that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think Ohio State, Oregon, Miami to
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: this point and it's early have separated themselves a little bit.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: Texas A and M is one. I'm I mean, they
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: have one of the biggest wins of the year at
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: Notre Dame, and I think maybe the only reason we're
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: hesitating to put them up there is to the Texas
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: A and M's history of disappointing in these spots. But
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: you know, between Ole, miss A and M Oklahoma and Alabama,
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think any of those teams could win
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: the SEC and we'll see where that plays out. But
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: none of these teams are unbeatable. That's college football now,
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: even Ohio State, as great as they've looked, you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: you peel back to you know, the like now that
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: win over Texas isn't quite as impressive as it was
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: at the time. Like well, you know, it's it's entirely
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: possible that they have a whole sumwheer and it just
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: hasn't been exposed. But to this point, they've looked pretty untouchable. Oregon,
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: you know, one of the best wins of the season
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: at Penn State, and Miami's actually had several big wins
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: to this point.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: So we're tell people about the audible what do you
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: got going on to use part of it apparently for
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: you inadvertently, so that's good.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, thank you, and thank you for plugging
• 30:46
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• 32:14
  Speaker 2: right now talking to little Seahawks football and the Beacon
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  Speaker 2: Plumbing hot Line. Seahawk linebacker Drake Thomas. Iught'd be good
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to get to know him a little bit. He's making
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a big impact for the Seahawks this season. Wearing number
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: forty two. I made his first career start at linebacker
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: against the Arizona Cardinals, seeing a lot of playing time. Drake,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: how are you today?
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: I'm doing well. I appreciate you guys having me on
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: the show.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Listen, man, I appreciate you coming on. It's I think,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: you know, it's one of those things. There's a lot
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: of guys out there and people like who's forty two.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: He seemed to be out there making some plays. I said,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: that's Drake Thomas. Man, that's Drake Thomas from North Carolina State.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: He's he's getting some opportunities right now. Hey, first, first
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: of all, for you is a guy that you know,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: you're an undrafted free agent in twenty twenty three, you
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: were with the Raiders and then Seattle claimed you. You
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: had some injuries, but but you've kind of established yourself
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: as an NFL player. Man, what was the road like
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: to get to this point?
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of ups and downs. I
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: would say, to this point, a lot of trial, you know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: hard times, whatever it is you're going through, injury, not
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: being exactly where I want to be, a lot of work,
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: and you know, so it's been it's been a long
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: but fun journey to get to this point.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: For sure, you've got to believe in yourself. I'm assuming
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: just because you're five to eleven, not the heaviest guy.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: To twenty eight were people telling you, hey, nice career
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: in college, but you're just you know, you're probably not
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: big enough for the NFL. Was that the biggest challenge
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: you faced?
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, as far as like hearing it Yeah, but like
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: what the reality is. I wouldn't say it's actually, you know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: much of a challenge at all, but yes, definitely hearing it.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: And that was the biggest thing when I was coming
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: out of college was them, you know, talking about my size.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: You have established yourself now and you're get an opportunity.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: It feels like it's kind of a nice role that
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: that they have for you. You you kind of rotate
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: out there with ty Reese a little bit. How would
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: you describe what your role is for the Seahawks, you.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Guys, I feel like it varies week the week. Honestly,
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: in my opinion, the way I look at it is
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: wherever they need me and whatever the coaches asked me
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: to do, that's what I'm gonna do. You know, I'm
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: going to do to the best of my ability. I'm
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: going to prepare and be ready to take on that
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: role and I'm gonna, you know, do everything I can
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: to excel in that role.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas joining a Seahawks linebacker here on the Beacon
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Plumbing hot line not what you guys wanted last week
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: against Tampa. That's not a Mike McDonald defensive performance. That's
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: not what you guys probably expect out of yourself. I'm
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: sure there's been a lot of talk film study this week.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: If just before we move ahead a little bit, looking
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: back last week, what do you think was the big
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: reason why? Besides for being honest, Baker may feels pretty
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: damn good, kind of like your quarterback Sam Donald right now.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: But when you guys are looking at things, what went
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: wrong and what can be corrected? Do you think?
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I just feel like there's a lot of stuff that
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: was uncharacteristic of our defense in general as a whole.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: We got to get back, you know, just the being us,
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: playing our style, being on the same page, and having
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: that high standard that we have to have of ourselves.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: So we just got to meet that every single day,
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: whether it's practice, whether it's you know, the film room walkthroughs.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: We gotta be consistently trying to raise that standard in
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: everything that we do.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You got some guys, some veterans on that team that
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: have been around for a while. Jared Reed's kind of
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: an alpha dog out there, I know, as well as
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Big Cat. And then you're playing next to a guy
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: in Ernest Jones. What does Ernest Jones do for you?
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's the he's the energize, energizer for our defense.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: But he's also like the calm. He brings a calmness
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: to the defense. You know, he he's making big plays,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: he's calling the defense, he's getting people aligned right and
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: getting everything checked. You know, he just honestly is the
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: energizer and you know, the core of our defense.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: He's a guy that I mean that Mike linebacker, he's
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I mean for for you guys in that room too,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming for the inside linebackers. Is I mean, he's
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: a guy. Is funny because I was look at him
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and think he must have been in the league for
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: ten years and he hasn't been. He's a little bit
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: older than you, but not much right, and yet he
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: feels like he's kind of that that the leader, the
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: father figure of all you guys. Am I seeing that correctly?
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean definitely like a big brother type of guy.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: He's been through a lot in the you know, in
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: his time in the NFL, he's he's had a lot
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: of good experience. He's been you know, at the highest
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: point and won a Super Bowl, and he's had his
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: low points as well, and he shared that with us.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: So he just having those those experiences that he's able
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: to share with us and give us knowledge. It's really
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: cool to have him in that room with us.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas with us Cek linebacker number forty two. Al Right,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: you're traveling back east. You're going to Jacksonville early game.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: One thing that has not been a problem for this
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: team is playing on the road. What you guys have
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: done is translated to the road games. But you're taking
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: on a team that's probably coming in with a lot
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: of confidence after what they did on Monday against Pat
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Mahomes and the Chiefs. Let's talk about what you see
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: with Jacksonville. I'll start with the quarterback with Trevor Lawrence.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: When you're watching Trevor Lawrence play, what do you see
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: from him?
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: An extremely talented quarterback. He has all the things that
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: you need to be an elite level quarterback in the NFL.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: I'd say, like so, his talent level is extremely high,
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: and he makes a lot of big plays for them.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: He runs the ball too at times effectively. You just
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: saw that Baker. Their different stature, obviously different styles, but
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: how aware do you guys have to be the fact
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: that he can you know, hell, he can fall down
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: and run into the end zone. We saw that Monday
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: night and then stepped off.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: He did that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: How aware of his running ability must you be?
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: You got to be very aware of Obviously he's he's
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: proved that. It's a you know, a threat to defenses.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: So you got to understand the rush plan and the
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: tackling plan and when he you know, gets outside of
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: the pocket and he's making plays with his legs and
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: you got to know how to uh, you got to
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: know how to stop it. So it's definitely something that
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: we account for.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I'll ask you about their running back. It's for me,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like they could use him more ATMU feels
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: like he's maybe you know, and I don't know, maybe
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I'm just kind of watching one game and thinking that.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: But that guy seems to be a big time threat
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's super explosive. He's a very explosive runner, and
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: it pops out on film. So yeah, I agree with you.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Does the travel bother you guys at all? Going back East?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I mean I just mentioned the record. Mike seems to
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: really in your performance. Guys seem to have this thing
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: dialed in. I mean, it's we're hearing a lot about
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: in college football. I mean now that teams are complaining
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: on Big ten teams, I got a fly across country
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: back and forth. NFL teams do that week in and
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: week out. Whatever you guys are doing seems to work.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: What is it about going back east or traveling that
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: seems to fit your team so well?
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: I feel like it just kind of speaks for the
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: organization everyone kind of packing up and bringing everything that
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: we have here in Seattle and taking it out there
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: just with one mission and goal in one focus, and
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: so just I feel like it speaks volumes just the
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: everyone in the organization for how well we were able
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: to do it make it seem seamless.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Well, Drake, it's been a ton of fun watching this.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I like a good story. I think a lot of
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: fans like a good story. U DFA to a guy
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: that started a couple of games now this year in
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the National Football League and making an impact for what
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: will be and should be most weeks, one of the
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: best defenses in the NFL with Mike McDonald leading the way. So,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas, thanks for jumping all of this today. Safe
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: travels back there and continued success. We appreciate your time today.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, appreciate you guys a lot.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: There you go. That's Drake Thomas joining us. Mike Hombren
• 39:17
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  Speaker 7: How's it going here?
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Good?
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Great to have you on.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Hey.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: By the way, later on this year, sometime maybe after
• 41:10
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• 41:12
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• 41:13
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• 41:14
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• 41:16
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• 41:18
  Speaker 2: hello at some point.
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: I'd love to do that, you know. We that's kind
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: of a tradition now because the kids love hockey my
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: family and so we've been able to get a get
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: go there once and have a real special night. And
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: I'd love to do that.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Here's here's why I say that, because people say, Ian,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: you've got you have coach on all week. You have
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: him on every week on your show. You guys see,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: he seems like he's most of the time he's okay
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: with you. I say, yeah, most of the time. Would
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: be a good win to it, I'd say the short time,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I said, it helps to that have just by my
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: side because he likes Jess, So you know, it's it's
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: having her here help coach, you know, just.
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: Does Jess helps a lot.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Yes, Coach and I relate on a level that uh,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: you know, it's like a daughter.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you know my dad's a coach.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I figure that and they say, well
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: you got that. It do you think you could finally
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: get him to come up here and join us for
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: a couple of minutes and the we had Walter, we
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: had Walter Jones on the pregame show last year, Isaiah
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Thomas and some others. Yeah, so I said, I'll check
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: with coach. I bet, I bet we can get him
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: to come up at some point and say hi to
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: us up on the set and do a little TV
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: with us. I'm just I just need to look good
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: for those folks I work for over there. Mike, you
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: Hey, anything I can, anything I can do. You know, really,
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: I'm in there.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of me I love it, thank you, Hey
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: you and Kathy, that'd be But yeah, let's do that.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Let's get the whole family up there, all right. Lots
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: to get to Let me first started talking about last week.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: We talked about Baker Mayfield a week ago going into
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: this game, and I know you said he really liked him.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: We've talked about this a few times. Baker Mayfield and
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold might be the best examples of this. Just
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: guys that just it didn't work out in one place
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and they go somewhere else. Hughes said on Monday, and
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I tend to agree Baker Mayfield may be the leading
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Canada or one of the leading candidates for MVP in
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: the NFL. And I'm not sure any of us saw
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: that come in the last couple of years.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: Mike, No, you no, we didn't see it coming in.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: But he was right.
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: And you know, you watch just you watch many games
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: he's played, and he's very accurate. He makes good decisions,
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: he gets out of trouble. He just throwing the ball
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: so well. And you can tell when he goes through
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: the sidelines. They show him on television talking to his
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: guys and he's a leader. He's yeah, he's having a
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: great year.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get to Trevor Lawrence to the see
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: in a second here in a second, I think they
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: tied together a little bit. Mike, what is the biggest
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: and hardest thing that you came across in all your
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: years coaching quarterbacks the transition from college to pros Because
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: it just seems so it's rare, right the guys go
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: from college and just have have instant success in the pros.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Now they can at times have it. We understand that,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: but like, what is the biggest or the hardest challenge
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: to make that transition.
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: Do you think, well, I think they're going against better
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: people all the time. You can in college, you can
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: be you can play for a Texas or Michigan or
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: Ohio State or Washington even that they're going to have
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: a better team oftentimes than the team they're playing. That's
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: not the way it is in the NFL. Honestly, you
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: know you're going to go against really good people all
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: the time, and so that's that's a that's an adjustment.
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: The second thing is you have to the player. The
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: young man has to listen to you. He has to
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: believe your help trying to help him and those types
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: of things, and it takes a while. I said, even
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: with all the guys I had, and I had a
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: lot of great players, that it would take a couple
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: of years for them to really click in, you know,
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: really saying okay, I got you, and I understand. It's
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: it's a complicated game at times, particular that position, and
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: so sometimes it just takes time. And then the organization
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: has to be patient. You know, if you want to
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: insert him right away and think he's going to just
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: go lights out like that right away, and win games
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: every game for you, it's not going to happen, and
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: so the owner ownership has to understand that. Everyone has
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: to understand that.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: It just sounds like it's really beneficial if a guy
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: can sit behind and watch for a year, and especially
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: if you're watching, and it probably depends on who you're watching, right,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: But if you can't have a veteran in the room
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: that you can learn from, maybe, I guess in a
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: sense red shirt in turn, how do you want to
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: call it?
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: That just can can lead a guy along the way.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that would help, now, I I you know, I've
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: I've gone both ways on that. I think. Yeah, a
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: guy can learn faster, in my opinion, if he can play,
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: if he can be out there and playing as long
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: as he doesn't get wiped out and hurt and it
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: all the time, and if he's with the right group
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: of people and he can look U pretty Y's a example,
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: you know, of going into a situation that was just
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: made for him and it worked, and that that's better,
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: I think than just watching and listening. But that's hard
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: to do. It's hard to find.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: It's funny too, because as you're saying that, the first
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: thing that comes to mind with Rock Purty. He played
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: at Iowa State and they had success, like they had success,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: but they weren't a you know, a top ten, top five,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: even top fifteen team. They probably were ranked off and on.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I remember who played them? My school played Just when
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: was that that? When did they play Iowa State in
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: the in the bowl game? Was that like twenty.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Eighteen or nineteen?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And party was good. It was his freshman year,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, he was good. But like he
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: like what you said, Mike, he never maybe had the
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: best talent around him. He probably had to be challenged
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: on a weekly basis, right as opposed to you come
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: out of some of these schools. You mentioned it, you're
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the best guy out there. Everyone around you is better
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: than anybody else. And you say, like so, well, the
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: NFL doesn't. That's not the case. Everyone's too close, right.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: That's right, That's exactly right. Yeah, and then you you know,
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: but and the hey, I asked to understand that you're
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: going to go to a growing period. The owner has
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: to understand it. I think it's hard. You take a
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: team like, well, who's been drafting quarterbacks? You know, the
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: Jets have been drafting quarterbacks up high for a few
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: years you have They're right, Carolina, you get different teams
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: that just I think ownership is a little they're not
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: willing to wait. And I remember Paul Allen coming up
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: to me and asking me, here, Mike, when are we
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: gonna start winning? When are we gonna start winning?
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: And we won a few games our first year, but
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: I said, and I told him, I said, it'll be
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: two years we really hit it. And he looked at
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: me kind of funny, and he said, okay, uh, you know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: but that's when the things change started changing just a
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: little bit. But that was about right now we started
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: getting to be good and and then it and then
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: we took off.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, So when you said two years, were you just saying, yeah,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I guess that buys me twenty four months? What was
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: what was the thought there?
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: No, I didn't, you know what, I had signed a
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: long term deal. But I was, I was really you know,
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: I was really talking. I was talking about Matt Yes,
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: you know it was. I said, you know, he's good.
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: Now he's going to be our player. But you're waiting, wait,
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: wait until two years, and then you're going to see
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: something special. Right, that's what happened.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and that's and there's no doubt and
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: that was a key, right, like getting Brett there, getting
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Matt here, finding that guy along the way, my Conrad
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: joining us as he does every Wednesday at two o'clock
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: here on the Beacon Plumbing hotline. All right, Mike. Uh,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. That brings me to Trevor Lawrence. I pulled
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: a softy today.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: You like this.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I pulled a softy today.
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: I was on it.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I was on a show down in the No it
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: was He'd be proud. I was on a show in Jacksonville.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: These guys called me. I met him, I think maybe
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago when I went twenty seventeen.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I went down and covered the game down there. And
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: so I was on with these guys today and and
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: it was a cordial conversation, Mike, very cordial. Don't worry.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't use your name. I just but I was, yeah,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: very cordial conversation. I was al with some guy named
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: fat Tony and some other guy and uh, and it
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: was all nice and fine. At the end, they said,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: what do you think the difference is going to be
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: on Sunday, Like, what's what's the difference between these two
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: teams and the difference on Sunday? I said, oh, Sam,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Darl's better than your guy. He's better in Trevor Lawrence period.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: End of story. Well, like I might as well insulted
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: their mom, their daughter, their wife, their child, I mean everything.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Like it was like I might as well have done
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: all of that because they lost their mind. But I'm
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: looking here at Trevor Lawrence and Mike. You remember when
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: he was coming out of college. I you know, he
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: was the guy that was going to be the transcending quarterback. Nothing,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be the greatest of all time. He's coming
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: off a great win on Monday against the Chiefs in
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: which he got stepped on feil down and scrambled athletically.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Nice play gets into the end zone, right, So it's
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: all good. So I bring that up for this reason.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at Lawrence's numbers, right, and as I look
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: at his numbers, he is no better than he's twenty fifth,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: twenty seventh, like in key Stats eighteenth fourteenth. They're having
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: a great year, But I don't think it's because of
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. But you watch this guy. There's a lot there, right,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: there's a lot there to like, but it just hasn't
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: translated yet.
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: You know what, I would agree with you. I'm not
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: sure I would have said that on no day.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: You're much nicer. You're much nicer than you would have
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: done that.
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: No, but he you know, well, the thing is that
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: you talk about expectation. A young guy comes out of college,
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: he's lights out, he's everything okay, and he's going to
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: immediately flip things around. Well, things have to be good
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: in other areas too for that to happen, So give
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: him time.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: I've always thought he's had time. You know, it should
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: be he should be hitting it now in his stride.
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: It should be all good. If the general manager and
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: is doing the right things as far as drafting and
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff. Yeah, and that's a big
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: part of it. Okay, But you know, Doug Peterson was
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: a coach there. I had Doug as a player. He
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: was a great coach and the Super Bowl won a
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: Super Bowl, you know if and he's a quarterback, and
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: that was the I thought that was the perfect place,
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: you know, for that to work out. But for some
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: reason it didn't, I know, if injuries played a part
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: of it, I don't know. But now but now he's
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: having they're off to a great start, and maybe now
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: he hit it. Maybe now is the time everyone understands
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: what's going on and they're they've got a much better team.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Good you know, listen, I was busting their chops today.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I hope it works out for them. I always feel
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: bad for Jacksonville. They play feels like half their home
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: schedule every year they play in Europe anyway, Like, yeah,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: that's right, Hey, I don't know how committed they are,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: but away we go, Mike congrad joining us. So the Seahawks.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: That was weird on Sunday, that's I mean, if you're
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: just liking it, felt like Pac twelve after dark back
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: in the day, right, like last team to have the
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: ball was going to win. And that's kind of what happened.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: They went back and forth. I got to think Mike
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: McDonald wasn't too pleased with what he saw from his defense.
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: No, you know what, that's the first thing that pupped
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: into my mind too. You know, he's a defensive coach
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: he prides himself on. Then they've been playing good defense.
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: That's how they won games. Quite honestly, and then all
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: of a sudden they really couldn't stop Tampa. And I
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: thought in the game, I thought it would be low scoring.
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: I thought it'd be just kind of like those games
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: they had played before. And it wasn't anything like that.
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: Both teams, both teams has did great offensively in the
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: second half. But no, Mike cannot be happy. And he
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: kind of, you know, he's very controlled, it seems to me.
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: And his press conferences after the game, and he kind
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: of let off some steam a little bit, I thought,
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: and that was that was an indication to me that
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: he was not very happy.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: He I was sitting in the press conference. First thing
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: he did. He came in there and he spent like
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: three or four minutes saying, hey, this is on me,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: like and and he was, but I'll ask you this,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: like you can have the I mean, lookten you you
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: were the godfather of the West Coast offense. Like you
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: your scheme, your scheme was second to none. You know
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: what's how how important scheming is, right? You know how
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: important all that is.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I asked that with this like he's kind of you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I know, Hugh, you've talked to Hugh about it, and
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: you've watched him. I mean, he's this guy that's got
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: this great scheme, great defensive mind. But at some point
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: if you don't have you know, Dex's and knows Jimmy's
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: and Joe's. Right, if you don't have the guys, then
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: it's hard. And he doesn't have a lot of guys.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Right now, you take Witherspoon and love Out among others, right,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: how do you how do you survive that?
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: No, that's that's you're exactly right. Particularly it gets a
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: team that can do the other thing pretty well. You know,
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: they passed the ball pretty well, and you take, you know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: you learn that hard lesson you take you lose the
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: players and you can have a good scheme, but the
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: other players and they're smart guys and they're the next
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: man up and all that stuff, but really you need
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: you guys that stay healthy and play. And that was
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: a good example. You bring up a great example of
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: what happened. I think Sunday. I think you know, they
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: they they lost some really good talent on defense in particular,
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: and it affected them greatly.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: And it's now you have to go on the road
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: across country. They seem to have figured that part out,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: but they still haven't figured out how to win at home.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I find that the most mind boggling thing, isn't it wild?
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: No way? And you're right. I mean we've talked to
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: we talked about the last week, we talked about before.
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: But it was such an advantage I thought, and I say,
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: I'm rafeeting myself. I know, but you know, getting in
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: there and you're excited and the crowd's going, and it's
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: hard for the offense.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: I had a quarterback from when we played Carolina in
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: the championship game there.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: It was long, loud, right, Delone went bananas in that game.
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: That was yeah, and and Dolone dilom. I later had
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: Belan in Cleveland and we talked about that. He goes
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: that was that was crazy, you know, oh gee, And
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: and it helped us, it really did.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I thought. I thought Sunday that, you know, being there,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I thought the crowd was fantastic, you know, and I
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: think they were getting.
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: Red you know, yeah, it seemed like, yeah, they're getting.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Revved up for the baseball game or something. It was
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: just like they were and there. You know, it's not
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: like Tampa doesn't travel like that's part of it too,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Like there wasn't a lot of fans there from Tampa,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: so uh they if you were there, you were probably
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: a Seahawk fan. But it just it didn't it didn't help.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Baker just carved him up. And they're gonna have to
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: figure that out this week against Trevor Lawrence for sure. So, uh,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: final thing for you, I just it's it's been great
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: having you on every day every week and all that.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I want to ask about the running game, and that
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: is something that seems to be a head scratcher. They
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: continue to split carries with sharbon A and Walker. Last week,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I think charbon A had like four less than Walker did.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Along the way, you and I have had this conversation before.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: If you're sitting in a meeting and you know, you
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: go back in the day, you're not Mike Homber and
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: the head coach or the offensive coordinator, or you're just
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: a quarterbacks coach, what's your suggestion to the OC or
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: the head coach. Because it feels like every week we
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: have this conversation, Walker seems to need to get more touches.
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I know it's very puzzling right now
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: because I think he can give you the most. I
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: like sharbon Ay, I really do. And he's the stintsive
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: runner and he's made great first downs and he's made touchdowns.
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: But what if you believe Walker is the guy and
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: I believe he is, let him carry the majority of
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: the carries and bring Charbonday on occasion when he gets tired,
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: you know. And the idea of bringing in the other
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: I think, I'd say, is the idea of bringing in
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: the quarterback to run a play. He's what is he
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: run three plays?
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Okay? I want to get to that. Yeah, so he
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: said today they have Mike, he said today, Mike McGall
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: said today in the press conference that they have more
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: for him and they need to do a better job
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: of utilizing that instead of just once a game. What
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: would you say to that, Well, I'd.
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: Say, no, wait, wait a second, let's talk let's deal
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: with their running back thing first. Yes, we're talking about
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: we're gonna give Walker more carries or what are we
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: you know, let's just decide if that's the offense they
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: want to run and if they pushed it. You know,
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: they pushed it. They've talked about it so much and
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: right now it's not working. The way they I know,
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: they think it could work or want it to work.
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: And I think they got to let Walker carry them
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: ball more.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: And Milroe, what do you do with him? Just let
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: them let him watch, you know, I mean, just redshirt,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: like let's just let's yeah, you know.
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: And then I said, but you know, look at it.
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: He's I think he said three plays in the four
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: games or something, and now you know they haven't worked
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: very well. No, you know, particularly then the thing was horrible.
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: So you know, it's it's just look, he's the third quarterback.
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: If you want to have something tricky in there, okay,
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: but then call it and it's you know, it's got
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: to work.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: You know, Jess.
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: You know what I like? I like.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I like when Mike gets a little a little reved
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: up here, like Dave Walker the ball.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: It's like it's like, don't don't let him know that.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I like it, like, let let Walker carry the ball,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Let's let Milroll watch from the sideline. Stop with this stuff,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: you know, you.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Know what, that's it, and don't approach you know what,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: he's fired up.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: You know what Hugh calls that those mill Roll plays
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Harry High School, that's what he likes. Yeah, it's Harry
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: High School. Let's stop with the harr High School stuff, right, Like, yeah, well.
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: I'm glad you said that. It looks so bad, but.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: You know, I think you're always welcome. Great with having
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: you on again. I believe it will be softy tomorrow,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: right probably?
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah?
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Perfect? Okay, good, he's here? Gives me the thumbs up?
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: Is he?
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: Let me ask you? Is he in Jacksonville?
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Who's that softy?
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: My god, my life would be so much better if
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: you was.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I said, I was on the radio in Jacksonville today.
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: That was what I got you.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I pulled the soft Yeah yeah, I pulled
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: the softy and got him reveed up. I got him
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: repped up out of town. I usually don't do that,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: but I was. I was feeling it this morning. They called.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: It was really early. They called me, like at six
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: a m. And I was just like, all right, I'm
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: not in a good mood.
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: So are you?
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: Are you trying to explain yourself?
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: Here?
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: Are you? What you did?
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Pretty much?
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: I think no, but you've always shot straight. You're good alone.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: No. I own it.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I owned it. I owned it. I was fine. I
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: owned it. I have no problem with it. Hey, listen,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'll be going to Jacksonville anytime soon,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: so I think I should be safe. I should be okay,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: So take care of my friend. Will listen for you
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: tomorrow with softy thank you. All right, but there that's
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: my culmbrim will take a break.
• 58:53
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  Speaker 2: All right, thanks to Mike Holmgren for poping on. We
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  Speaker 3: Let's coach is the best?
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  Speaker 2: Coach is the best?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Keith, I got your text. I'm gonna read half of it.
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  Speaker 2: You're a true pro mayor.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I like what you qualified it with.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, you know what, I'm gonna read a couple of
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  Speaker 2: these because because now it's over, it's now eight to three,
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  Speaker 2: I'll read a couple of these.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I see.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, the six two six no stallage of ninety five
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  Speaker 2: Mariner play, but manager play by Mariner's owners really paying
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  Speaker 2: off this series for Detroit Wilson getting owned. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: come in all these at the end. Three to six,
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  Speaker 2: oh Dan Blank, Wilson is way over his head. Three
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  Speaker 2: six oh Dan is lost in the sauce. Keith Miller,
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  Speaker 2: of those segments for Live during the Mariner's meltdown, you're
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  Speaker 2: a true pro mayor. Normally we ignore this stuff. It's
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  Speaker 2: now eight to three and it has been an absolute
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  Speaker 2: meltdown for the Americans. Now, Uh, Softy's gonna soft he'll
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  Speaker 2: do and Chuck and Buck and all those guys sometime
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  Speaker 2: after three will kind of break it all down. Because, yes, Keith,
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to coach during the meltdown, so I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't exactly sure what happened, except for one thing. I
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  Speaker 2: think we're I think the second guessing of Dan Wilson
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  Speaker 2: is going to happen again today. Bryce Miller low pitch
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  Speaker 2: count led three to one. They go to the bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: Spire's been just aces all year, and he gets lit up,
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  Speaker 2: as does Bizarre. I mean, it just was it's that.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that you, you know, Softy and are
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  Speaker 2: talking in the break. If you managed strictly by numbers
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  Speaker 2: and never feel and if you strictly managed by analytics,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's maybe gonna cost you at some point, so
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  Speaker 2: I know those guys will break it all down later.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it feels for the five run deficit now
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  Speaker 2: that it's pretty much over. So I'll let soft you
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  Speaker 2: know all those texts that people are pissed off about
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  Speaker 2: the pitching change and when it happened. I'm sure my
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  Speaker 2: friend will there's more coming in. Yes, that will be
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  Speaker 2: addressed during the postgame extravaganza starting at three o'clock with
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  Speaker 2: the fellas. All right, so we'll get to all of that.
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  Speaker 3: Then that'll all happen.
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  Speaker 2: Dan is lost in the sauce. I think that's an
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  Speaker 2: underrated term.
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  Speaker 3: In the sauce is a pretty good one. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: like it.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, Dan Wilson is the smartest guy in the world
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday, and today people think he's the dumbest man
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  Speaker 2: on the planet. Sometimes the players also have to execute
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. But I would think we all can
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  Speaker 2: question that Bryce Miller was looking great. I don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get it, but baseball guy will tell me different.
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  Speaker 2: That's why he'll come on later. Let's get a little uh,
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  Speaker 2: It's all true, and I know no shortage of text
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  Speaker 2: There's very few that like last week, very few redo
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  Speaker 2: I love it right now. Love with a capital L.
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  Speaker 2: Indiana is going to Oregon on Saturday. That's in Eugene.
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  Speaker 2: Indiana's ranked number seven in the country. Oregon is ranked
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  Speaker 3: It's like krubarb.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately it does appear. Hopefully if you're a Husky fan.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you're a Husky fan, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: you just turn to a Yankee fan today because you
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  Speaker 2: want that game to be playing. Yeah, because if the Yankees,
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  Speaker 2: if the Jays win tonight, then the Mariner games later
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  Speaker 2: on about head to head with the Huskies, I think
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  Speaker 8: No, I'm just I'm bummed out, man. You know I'm
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  Speaker 8: bummed out. You know, I mean, I uh, I don't know,
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  Speaker 8: I uh. You're sitting there in the fifth inning, thinking, boy,
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  Speaker 8: this is going well, this is going very very well.
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  Speaker 2: For people that are just too Mariner's trailing eighty three,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to well, Detroit's hitting in the eys. Just
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  Speaker 2: having a freaking meltdown, man, absolute meltdown. You have a
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  Speaker 2: three nothing lead against a team that has done nothing offensively.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're a Mariner fan, you're watching listening. If
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  Speaker 2: you're me and you're faking your way through a radio
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  Speaker 2: show watching it, you're thinking yourself. You're thinking about the Alcs,
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  Speaker 2: you're thinking about the Blue Jays and the Yankees. This
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  Speaker 2: Detroit team can't hit. Dan Wilson makes a move that
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  Speaker 2: will yet again be asked and scrutinized about because he
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  Speaker 2: takes out how many pitches with price failer fifty five?
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  Speaker 2: And after that it has gone straight down, totally south.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, this is train wreck city, right off a cliff,
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  Speaker 8: exploding body parts, whatever you want, all over the bottom
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  Speaker 8: of the gully.
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  Speaker 2: It's not pretty. It was terrible.
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  Speaker 8: I mean it was Bizardo's worst outing and fires worst
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  Speaker 8: outing in a month. I mean, going back to that
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  Speaker 8: game in Atlanta where he gave up three runs without
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  Speaker 8: getting it out and got yanked. And then Bizardo against
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  Speaker 8: the White Sox in August three, earned a couple of
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  Speaker 8: bombs against Chicago again. They actually won shockingly eight to six,
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  Speaker 8: by the way, and kind of picked up the bullpen
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  Speaker 8: that day.
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  Speaker 2: I think they may have had a big lead and
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  Speaker 2: the bullpen gave up some slop late in the game.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, I don't I'm not sitting here
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  Speaker 8: at least this second, and I mean I'm curious to
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  Speaker 8: hear what everybody else thinks, and I you know, could
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  Speaker 8: be convinced to change my mind, But I'm not overly
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  Speaker 8: angry at Dan Wilson for the move to pull Bryce Miller.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, if you're telling me that Bryce Miller does
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  Speaker 8: what he does and you're bringing in maybe your best
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  Speaker 8: reliever besides on Dress Munnos to shut down a not
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  Speaker 8: very good offense, I'd say, where do I sign?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: They just picked like you said, man, the guy just
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  Speaker 2: picked an awful day to have.
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  Speaker 8: A terrible, terrible, terrible performance and now without a miracle
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  Speaker 8: comeback here. And we're three outs away, by the way,
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  Speaker 8: because it's the bottom of the eighth, we're talking about
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  Speaker 8: having to beat Tarrek Scooble four times in one year.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get to that. Let's go get him beat
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  Speaker 2: before that. At some point, and again this is baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Guy needs to answer this, and probably only one guy
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  Speaker 2: couldn't be gave Spire, but using him at some point
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 8: Question well, the only the only thing that would come
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  Speaker 8: up for me is is this just first of all,
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  Speaker 8: you mentioned it Brian Wo's injury, or Andrews mentioned it,
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  Speaker 8: somebody did, And this is an offshoot of Brian Wo's injury,
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  Speaker 8: right where you'd have a Bryce Miller available in the
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  Speaker 8: bullpen and maybe Brian Wu pitching a game like this
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  Speaker 8: or everybody else if he had been healthy, gets pushed
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  Speaker 8: back a day. Obviously, that's number one, and then number two.
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  Speaker 8: This is exactly why a lot of us at the
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  Speaker 8: deadline were begging for another reliever to go out and
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  Speaker 8: get a Johann Durant or somebody in addition to Caleb Ferguson,
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  Speaker 8: who they did not get. And Caleb Ferguson obviously, yesterday
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  Speaker 8: was terrible. I mean, the game was over and and
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  Speaker 8: thank god they were able to, you know, withstand it.
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  Speaker 8: But then they really, let's face it, they really did
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  Speaker 8: not do anything of significance to help out their bullpen
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  Speaker 8: of the dead line.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing. Lots of text coming in at fournine four to
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  Speaker 2: five one. I'm sure you'll take a glance at those later.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to do talk backs
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  Speaker 2: on your show coming up at three o'clock. I'm sure people.
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  Speaker 8: Ready, we're gonna take some calls. We got Chuck and
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  Speaker 8: Bucker in Chuck and Bucker in Detroit. We'll have Bucky
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  Speaker 8: on as soon as the game's over. And then Chuck's
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  Speaker 8: gonna do you know, the lord's work and go to
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  Speaker 8: the clubhouse, which, let me tell you, something man, there
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  Speaker 8: is no worst place in the world than a Major
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  Speaker 8: League Baseball clubhouse after a loss like this.
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  Speaker 2: No, I take that back. The only worst place would
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  Speaker 2: be in.
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  Speaker 8: An elimination game when they're done, because I remember being
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  Speaker 8: in the Yankee Stadium visiting clubhouse after game number four
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  Speaker 8: of the two thousand and one ALCS Mariners had fallen
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  Speaker 8: behind three to one. That's the day where Brett Boone
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  Speaker 8: hit that pop fly home run over Chuck mob Block's
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  Speaker 8: head and left field panela.
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  Speaker 2: After game two they're down oh two, says we're gonna.
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  Speaker 8: Bring up back here for Game six blah blah blah,
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  Speaker 8: and they hammer him in Game three, and then Boone
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  Speaker 8: hits the home run on the eighth inning. I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 8: I'm sitting there with Neil Scott in the auxiliary press
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  Speaker 8: box and left field that son of a bitch.
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  Speaker 2: Is gonna be right. They're gonna bring it. They're gonna bring.
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  Speaker 8: Them five six outs away. And I think it was Soriano.
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  Speaker 8: I think it may have been Bernie Williams. I don't
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  Speaker 8: remember who it was. Mike Cameron climbing the outfield wall
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  Speaker 8: like Spider Man to try and bring that thing back,
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  Speaker 8: and then being in that clubhouse, you could tell the
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  Speaker 8: players were just dejected so that they knew they were done. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: so down three to one, this is a different story.
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  Speaker 8: But how do they bounce back from being tied when
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  Speaker 8: they felt like they should have been getting ready for.
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  Speaker 2: Toronto or New York and who they have to face
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  Speaker 2: on Friday? Right right?
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  Speaker 8: See, and for a fourth time. You gotta beat him
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  Speaker 8: for fourth time. But you know what, you don't have
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  Speaker 8: to beat him by yourself with your offense. He doesn't
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  Speaker 8: have to look bad to lose the game. He did
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  Speaker 8: not look terrible in game number one. Your offense, Yeah, sorry,
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  Speaker 8: Your offense was the reason why that was a tight game. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: So how about George Kirby just pitch your balls off.
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  Speaker 8: Pitch your balls off, go do your thing. The bullpen
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  Speaker 8: bounces back from a terrible performance today. I mean, if
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  Speaker 8: I told you before the season started game five at
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  Speaker 8: home for the right to go to the ALCS, you'll
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  Speaker 8: probably take it.
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  Speaker 2: You'll probably sign up. Said, are you telling me they
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  Speaker 2: won the division?
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  Speaker 6: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: And of the two seats, And I guess I get it.
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  Speaker 8: Context changes because in that context, you don't know they're
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  Speaker 8: leading three nothing in the fifth inning of Game four
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  Speaker 8: of the Alds. So it's a gut punch for now,
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  Speaker 8: but I could have readen a nice script years aw.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just bummed out, man. I I I
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  Speaker 8: honestly started to believe. And it's my own stupid ass
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: fault as a Mariner fan for letting myself believe this.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: I thought at about one o'clock, one forty whatever this
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: afternoon that we were going to be doing something pretty
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: special on the show today, and it all fell apart.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 8: I messed with the sports guys. It might be me,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 8: I told, and those guys out there three nothing.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I see. They're not scoring four runs, right, this team,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: this team is incapable of scoring four runs. I'm right.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 8: They scored eight, right, so right, yeah, right, double them up.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: Maybe they blew their wad today, who knows. So Bucky
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: from Detroit, Bucky's gonna.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Be on Chuck Go Beyond.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: We'll get a bunch of audio obviously, phone calls. Yeah,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: we'll do some phone calls. We won't do him for
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 8: a while. We gotta we gotta sift through some stuff
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 8: here on the radio program. And then Kevin Harlan's coming up,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 8: Petro's coming up. I honestly don't know if we'll have
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 8: time to do Florio today. We may have to push
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 8: him back the next week, but we will do Kevin
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: Harlan at Dad five.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Well, we were gonna be here for a celebration. We'll
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: be here to vents and maybe celebrate on Friday and stuff.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, we know Friday will be on
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: the air for the Dogs. We gotta got two o'clock pregame.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: L Yeah, sure, Friday.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 8: May have to go and uh go into Tony casher
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 8: Cones booth and push him aside to start talking some baseball.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Wow touchdown? What the hell of a Friday co I'd
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: love to do that. I would love and you know
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: what he would allow us to do it to he
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: it allowed, Well, you would just pull your way in there.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: Allow it for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 8: this paddle day saying so long, everyone come back.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: We have Factor fiction coming up moments away on ninety
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  Speaker 2: three point three kJ FM