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Fortean Fifty - Delaware · HOLOSKY PODCAST

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back to the Holis guy podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are your host.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Stephen and Kyle and it's Monday, holocult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're new here, I mean, Kyle, like to talk a little bit before we get to the crux of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you've never imagined.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, kind of like the genie and a bottle baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a robust the right
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are fucking nerds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all right, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're your nerds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do we do never say nerd in a negative context.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true Sometimes people nerds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, most of the time when we say nerds in a positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know somebody's being a fucking nerd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you know you know you got read the room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to cash in on that guy who says he was gonna give us like a million bucks So if you're still out there listening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How was a long time ago?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hook a brother up hook hook the brothers up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't follow through, did he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's a nerd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean much love we appreciate the sentiment yeah we would also appreciate the dollar meant that at this point I think that Stephen I would conclude that we should get helped to me know yes right car truck yes with a fucking hitch yes and get the assboat
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me get fish, cryptid hunt, do a whole bunch of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Things can be done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We all know how much people enjoy had for you things speaking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I needed some fucking good I don't I don't know because I know you have dowsing rods, but they feel a little cheap as they're good Dowsing rods out there that I work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see them fucking weirdos
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[SPEAKER_01]: The ask, I don't even, let's say the thing, whenever they're asking questions, who the fuck are they asking questions to?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't tell anybody?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they'll get the ask question and it goes yes or no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they say thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is this, he has to know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And thank you, because I would be interested in making them my little woo woo corner for Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could probably make your own Dowsen rods.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a couple wire hanger, no wire hangers, a couple wire hangers and some, oh yeah, you can make it easy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, you, I mean, you see that equation a lot easier than I do, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we can make it easy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do they have to be made out of anything specific, probably not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I would assume so, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As long as they're the same links in the same like wait, oh yeah, wait get it dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't figure out a lot of hate you hate putting together shit Yeah, cuz if you don't build dows you right I don't even know how to build that you're gonna build them and I can build a lot of shit
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I take all that back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where to get good good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what constitutes good Dowsing rods.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, me neither.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I am I'm kind of boozy when I get into things so some boozy rods.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, cuz I'm like, you know, this fucking bedazzled
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we have the fucking original roadcaster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got like roadcaster 10 now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those always We should probably get that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the type of guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That calls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's called or I'm just getting the fishing and I'm like, you know, like, a couple hundred bucks for a rod and real mad deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He does go all in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very cold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very cold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How did that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I get into it, I get into it hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what else was going to say?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's getting cold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a wild fucking thought, the thing, just to hear that comment, I've had a lot of fun with these guys over the years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you meant, we're someone's favorite podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that, too, but it's, it's crazy to sit and think that there are people that have, Oh, geez.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen to us for literally years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That we have, we are continued talking for the last time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't really feel like we've been doing this for years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, some days it does, but most of the time it doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's crazy that there have been people who've stuck around that fucking long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty sick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of mind-blowing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very sick and fly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because remember, Stephen, I kind of had a discussion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're definitely podcasters before content creators.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, two different worlds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't figure one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we can't figure either one of them out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: True.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's one this way more for and then podcasting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's content created.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not really trying to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're definitely podcasters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we have faces for podcasters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: True.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Justin, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know what she made this in March of 2024.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm only almost two years behind on this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we still appreciate you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll feel you're still here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But thank you for the kind words.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of awesome that we're someone's favorite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the kind words.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good to hear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that we're someone's will go when we may question your sanity a little bit that we're your favorite, but how does it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this week, I'm bringing you another 40 and 50.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's been
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[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In advance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so it's Delaware's fault.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyone who lives in Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am sorry because God damn was this a slogged right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like everything in Delaware is haunted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't want to write about haunted stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I finally got through or finally truck through or.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So here we are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's only haunted stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I found some possible cryptic stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we got to get, we got to get through Delaware to be able to make it to the rest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Wayne's world hit it out of the park with Delaware when they're doing the, the, the little travel segment and they're like, we're imagining being magically whisk away to Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the solid movie yeah so I felt that when I was writing this no I mean we love you Delaware listeners all six of you oh yeah first sure but we we arguably you could have just skipped Delaware I don't think anybody would have noticed you should have tried to get you should have tried it yeah too late now I got I got some I got 3,000 words here and you get what you get and you don't throw a fit Delaware you definitely should have tried it but like you said we're
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what she's got for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, right off the rip for Delaware, we've got the Prime Hook Swamp Monster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, strange little creature described as a being, or described as being a cross between a main wolf and a pug is said to look in the swamps of Prime Hook National Wildlife Refuge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is not what I picture surviving in a swamp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's strange, strange malagamation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: prime book wildlife and national wildlife refuge is a sanctuary for migratory birds located east of Milton Delaware in the United States established by John F. Kennedy in 1963.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's 10,000 acres along the western shore of Delaware Bay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it is kind of crazy because I was going to, he said it's a swamp monster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking to myself, I'm like, fuck, Delaware's got swamps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I got to think in more, I'm like, wait a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't visualize anything when I think of Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like literally nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't thought of Delaware since I watched Wayne's World up until the point of writing this episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, it's Delaware misunderstanding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: unawareness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we just don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yeah, it's the opposite of wearing anybody from the hell, our six listeners in Delaware, please.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please do us some justice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you like it there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the refuge contains a variety of habitats, including freshwater and saltwater marshes, which I'm assuming are swamps, marshes, swamps, there may be a difference.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Woodlands, grasslands, ponds, forested, it supports 267 species of birds and a variety of reptiles, amphibians and mammals, according to Wikipedia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the more obscure animals, possibly living in Prime Hook Wildlife Refuge is the Prime Hook Swamp Monster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Prime Hook Swamp creature has been described as being about two and a half to three feet long, or tall, with long-lanky legs, a light brown body, a flat, pug-like face, small ears, and a long tail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's said to be around 30 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it doesn't sound like all that intimidating, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A Reddit user by the name of Helen J was driving in Broadkill Beach, Delaware around dusk one evening in July of 2007, suddenly along the side of the road and a swampy area a strange creature appear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Helen and her daughter had never seen anything like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was small, tan with long legs and a flat face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Helen's other daughter and her friend claimed to have also seen a very similar creature run in front of their car in the same swamp area the year prior.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Helen asked around to see if anyone else had seen a similar creature and the owner of the broad kill store of a broad kill store, claimed to have seen the creature while out dirt biking with her dad many years before that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people believe the Prime Hook Swamp creature is a deformed kayak or a caracol cat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what a caracol cat is, but they think it might be that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The deformity might explain to the strange facial features and lack of fur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps it's a very strange creature that simply is not been captured and categorized yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Prime Hook Wildlife Reserve is a big enough area with plenty of spaces to hide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They also, some cryptantusius believed that the Prime Hook Swamp creature could be a devil monkey or some other form of undiscovered primate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A devil monkey?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck is a devil monkey?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's Google it while we're here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bear with me, Holocaust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Devil monkey cryptid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The term devil monkey refers to a cryptid from North American folklore or a specific real world animal in New Hampshire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So same area, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Delaware New Hampshire's close, correct?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, maybe not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The cryptid is described as a large aggressive primate like creature with features like pointed ears, baboon like snout, kangaroo like legs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The devil monkey of Danville, however, refers to an escaped woolly monkey that
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, class similar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This ass can't rule eggs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Strange.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No monkeys and I have kangaroo legs, that's just dumb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One that jumps good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they don't climb trees very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I could jump up into trees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it might just jump and hit the tree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next, so there, there you have it, your first swamp monster who's half-pug, half-pug, half-pug, half-pug, half-double-munched.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if it's that, because I'm picture and a large wolf and a pug combination, tiny little pug face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was, does it end up looking like T-Rex at that point?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing it's gonna be on all fours.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because those are both of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we'll have to the devil monkey and jump from this back, I don't know, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it looks like T-Rex.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It probably is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got the pug front paws and wolf back leg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a woolly T-Rex.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a woolly uh, a wool hug.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those from there, we go to the great state of Cape Hinlipin State Park.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which has a thing called the corpse light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where do I thought it was pretty badass name?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a man myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely a metal band.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a light house is supposed to represent a beacon the guide ships home, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose to just post it like a warning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So tell me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The corpse light is supposed to guide corpses home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Cape Handlepins state parks seems to be a perfect candidate for a lighthouse
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when a flashing light along the coast is seen, people don't question it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, there is no lighthouse built in the park.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Corpse Light is a phantom light that lowers unsuspecting sailors to their death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Corpse Light was first spotted around 250 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It said,
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the strained light haunts the point into this day to this day because british soldiers invaded a wedding ceremony being held for native american tribe you're a rude yeah nearly all of the tribe was killed and the remaining tribal members cursed the land with a drum of stone and signaled death to all european men locals just terrible man weddings are like one of my most favorite social events
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the British came in and just be in dex, dex.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't do that to a wedding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when everybody's supposed to be happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you could have just hung out and been cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you should have waited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But never put that on hold.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or just not murder or just not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the more logical explanation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but this is don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Crows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Locals call these ghostly lights, corpse lights, or the bad weather witch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a gross light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's trying to cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Corpse lights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like or.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Over the years, hundreds of sightings and strange events of hape, or have haunted Cape Henlopin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And corpse lights continue to lure ships to the rocks of the cape on Christmas Day in 1655.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Devin Sherman and her more than 200 sailors were lost in the night until the light guided them home, or so they thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The mysterious light that they assumed was a lighthouse guiding them to safety was instead luring them to the jagged out crops of rocks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The ship crashed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the ghostly light faded away.
19:54
[SPEAKER_00]: There were no survivors.
19:56
[SPEAKER_00]: To this day, residents of Cape inlipin, reports seeing ghost ships on the horizon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not only did the ghost light lure in ships, but now they're ghost ships.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy that, which I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, the reporting of this little sussie, but crazy to think that after the corpse light did it's thing, then it shut off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it got the story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, how did that story get out because everybody died?
20:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Because people were other people were watching it.
20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
20:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.
20:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy.
20:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You saw that one.
20:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I am a paranormal investigator.
20:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you, I mean, boots
20:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're definitely, you're like my boots may not be in Delaware or in Illinois better version of Zach Baggins.
20:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't take much.
20:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Just say it.
20:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't take much at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The corpse like continues to claim victims in 1798, a British ship British.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, they they the curse is carrying on.
21:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I literally thought you were going to like say a recent time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: The way he's sold out, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still claiming victims in 17 and I'm like, Oh, I didn't continue.
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I anticipated like a 2017.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, well, what is time?
21:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also true because it is all at once.
21:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So technically, it has happened right now.
21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, technically, you're not wrong.
21:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Technically, there are our sailors from the 1600s drowning right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That sucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't wish that for anybody for me wrong.
21:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely can't.
21:36
[SPEAKER_00]: 1798 a British ship by the name of the brack the brack
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[SPEAKER_00]: became entranced by the lights, crashed and sank into the shark-infested waters of Cape Hinnlipin Peninsula.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is it going to be shark-infested?
21:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Sharks are hungry too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's already getting sunk in the water.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need sharks on top of that, terrible.
21:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Another incident, again in 1800, said a ghost of a lone Native American machine standing on one of the outcroppings of rocks just before a barge crashed into the rocks, killing many on board.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the curse is real.
22:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, another problem with the story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So here me out, roll with me.
22:26
[SPEAKER_01]: They can see the Native American on my hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they don't see the giant of rocks.
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a distraction.
22:38
[SPEAKER_00]: That they're about to drive into.
22:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a distraction.
22:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
22:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I would be distracted at five, saw a Native American standing around.
22:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah.
22:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're close enough to see the native, you're also close enough to see the damn rocks.
22:56
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
22:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're right.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: There probably was some unknown circuit stance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You stay away from the ocean.
23:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know how those some works.
23:03
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
23:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You're, you're not wrong.
23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
23:07
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fair, right?
23:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: though ocean rocks are different from Illinois Land Rocks.
23:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that.
23:13
[SPEAKER_00]: They just jump right out.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if the Harry Dwarf tries to steal those ones.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They probably got cursed.
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why they ended up in Venezuela.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It's science.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: More dollars.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So from Go Ships we go straight to another cryptid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what that means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Hockesson was a place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hockesson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hockesson dear man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
23:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a nonsense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that like ice cream?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 1993 near Hockesson Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is an anonymous submission about a cryptid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: quote from anonymous I was seven or eight years old and visiting my paternal grandparents house with the rest of my family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They lived deep in the woods and always hated it there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They felt like something was always watching and was always eerily quiet, like not even crickets chirping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: my little brother and I shared a bed in one room on the ground floor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My brother would sleep at one end, his head against the window or wall, and I would be at the other end facing the window.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On this particular morning, I woke up first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The sun was brilliant, making the room gold through the curtains.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there, a silhouette against the window was a deer with the largest rack of antlers I'd ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was right there, like almost pressed against the window in profile,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was at that time that it changed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In one smooth movement, it reared up on a tiny legs and it was no longer a deer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were only two men in the area and that was my grandfather and my dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was clearly neither of those.
24:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Not sure if that made it better or worse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My grandfather was very built for his age and my dad had a beer gut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This silhouette was clearly younger and more muscular, but not in the like a brick way my grandfather was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It exuded strength and scared the hell out of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It started or it started to the side for a moment and then strode off with purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Looking back I want to tell myself that it was just my imagination of a half a week child, but I remember the awe and utter fear I felt when the deer changed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So any of our Delaware listeners in the hawkison area, have you seen a deer man?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope a shapeshift is someone has me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you got the mythology of like the deer woman who is kind of like a thing where people see the woman in the woods with the antlers and shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it wouldn't be that far fetch could be like it could be just a shapeshifter type entity.
25:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's just a window go.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: They I they do have their own version of window go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody wants to deal with a win-to-go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that I pronounce it correctly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I don't know what you said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Weird situation to be in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They live out in all the woods and they hate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fucking move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the kids hated it but the grandparents didn't hate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, that would be more sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I would like to be out in the middle of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to deal with shit.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I get that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like loose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: fucking, I don't know how people deal with HOA's and shit, yeah, that's so crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did find a little story here in the complete works of Charles Ford.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Delaware doesn't have a lot going on when you go to the index of the complete works of Charles Ford, and there is one one page with Delaware one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy because that book's
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a thick boy, uh, and I'll read this, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's said in the scientific American that according to Warranton, Solid South, the number of persons had seen white-robed figures in the sky at night, story in the Richmond Dispatch is that many persons had seen or had thought that they had seen an alarming sight in the sky at night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A vast number of armed uniform soldiers
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[SPEAKER_00]: practicing drills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, in a dispatch from Wilmington, Delaware, quote, platoons of angels marching and counter marching were seen in the sky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Their white robes and helmets gleaming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Similar accounts came from Laurel and Talbot, several persons said that they had seen in the sky a figure of President Garfield, who had died not long before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our general acceptance is that all these reports are such phenomena
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting in terms of appearances and subject up upper most in minds, but I thought that was interesting that there were angels and armies in the skies over Delaware, probably in the 1800s since it's Charles Ford.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, being that there's nobody in Delaware,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is kind of a perfect place to practice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Now what it would see, but I mean, some people saw it.
28:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
28:22
[SPEAKER_00]: The ghost president Garfield was up there too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The underestimated Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the underestimated the six people who live in Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They caught him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How many people do live in Delaware for you guys?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, I would be on your fucking toes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes you wonder what they saw that they thought were platoons of angels in armies marching around in the sky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They would have had to see people in armor of fucking fighting something or marching and practice some fight and I mean population of Delaware as of 2024, every one 0.052 million.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: How many people live in Chicago?
29:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, definitely more than that, right?
29:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chicago population has up 2024 to 0.72 million.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Chicago has more people than Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fucking crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Delaware.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Next, with Delaware has its own version of the black dog or called the fence rail dog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a shitty name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's because it's as tall as a fence rail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like a fence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So not just a clever game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, yeah, just say fence post, please fence rail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't make, I don't make up the Delaware words.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not saying you, I'm just saying Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Change your words.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got you.
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we're gonna get into this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The legend of the Fitzrail dog originates in the state of Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which is why we're talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it literally only stays in Delaware because I never heard that before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If focus is on a particular stretch of road on Highway 12, mid-state road to be exact, which passes through the towns of Fredrica and Filton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thought to be reported since the early turn of the century, this black dog gets its name from appearing to stand as tall as a common fence rail, which I'm assuming is a fence post.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here in Illinois.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's roughly around four foot at the shoulder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a big dog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Fincerale dog is also said to be nearly 10 feet long from the tip of the nose to the tip of its tail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty big.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big dog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big dog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this description changes greatly depending on what story you're listening to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Along with the startling height and length, the Fitzrail dog is believed to possess the same red eyes that often come with these ghost dog stories, and it's said to be incredibly fast, oftentimes keeping pace with passing cars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It has been described as neither passive or aggressive, but rather assertive and aware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's said to mostly keep to itself and just watch the road when not running alongside of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One legend claims that the Finn's rail dog is a spirit of an outlaw who committed schmm, after being surrounded in his home by local authorities, rather than go to jail, the man chose to end his own life, because of this, his spirit came back as a vengeful black dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You think that's a punishment?
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if anything, yeah.
31:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you have to be the black dog from black dog lore that has the worst name ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it definitely has the worst name ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't know, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's he getting vengeance on?
31:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
31:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't like that.
31:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that.
31:55
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean that I'm right.
31:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It just means that I don't like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another goes on to say that the dog is a return spirit of a young slave boy who was killed by his abusive owner and whose body was desecrated and disposed of near the sight of the future Highway 12.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The dog now comes back and roams the area as if looking for a final resting place to put a soul at peace.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, there's a legend that says the Finn's Rail Dog is the actual ghost of a dog who came back to exact its revenge for the murder of its owner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The story claims that went alive the dog belonged to a kind man who was the landlord of a boarding house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: While dealing with an angry and violent tenant one day, the landlord was murdered, and his body was chopped up, grounded into fine chunks and then fed to his loyal dog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: after being forced to consume the meat of its owner, the dog then was killed by the tenant, and its body was left to rot in the woods around the home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Soon after the dog returned to the area as a spectral black dog and set out to attack all those who would soon do harm to others in the
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[SPEAKER_00]: While the legend above are fun to read and tell around a campfire according to this website I can't remember where I got it from, where does the truth of the fence rail dog come in?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody knows exactly when the dog was first spotted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is known that it's most often seen running alongside Highway 12.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most often reported being seen on rainy nights or just before a storm is set to arrive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The witnesses of the Finn's rail dog claimed it looked like an oversized black wolf, but others who were lucky enough to see it swore that it had the overall body shape and general characteristics of a hyena, just much larger and much darker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got some different size variants, some different shape variants, a lot of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird that it shows up more when it like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: range or storms.
33:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It's strange.
33:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also interesting that there's so much lore behind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's so many different origin stories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it has that much of an effect on the area that it has constituted multiple different origin stories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is pretty like pretty wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you have to have multiple people seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even begin to like start
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
34:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Next we have a piece of archaeological mysteriousness here called the Haleoke mammoth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Haleoke gorget or the Haleoke pendant is an artifact from a section of shell that is engraved with the image of an extinct woolly mammoth reportedly found in Haleoke Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And initially identified as an example of paleo Indian art.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Proported to have been a gorgeous car during the Pleostina area, please, please, please, do you seen?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pleistocene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pleistocene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pleistocene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's definitely the word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The object is now widely believed to be an archaeological forgery, but we're not here to debate that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not an archaeological scientist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle is is probably fake news is probably real and they're like, well, that's worth a lot of my let's just trick them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It gets better than being trickery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very, if it gets very human here at the end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the history of the Hollywood gorgeous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The gorgeous was claimed to have been found in 1864 near the railroad station in Hollywood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The object was reportedly found by
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: In 1864, it was not brought to the attention of the scientific community until December of 1889 or the public until February of 1890.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The supposed discovery of the Gorge by Crescent coincides directly
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: with the discovery of another depiction of the woolly mammoth in France while excavating the Madeline rock shelter in 1864 where Edward Lard's head discovered a clear depiction of a woolly mammoth on a fragment of mammoth tusk providing evidence that humans mammoths probably co-existed in
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Once the Hollywood Gorge had been introduced to the scientific community and the public at large, the shell was put aside in rarely mentioned in the archaeological literature of the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was displayed at the Peabody Museum, the Smithsonian Institute, and the International Exposition of Madrid and Chicago before fading from the public eye, only to be resurrected in the 1970s when its authenticity was once again subject to debate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which we don't trust a Smithsonian because they hide giant bones.
36:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But yet to be kind of a big deal to make it in the Smithsonian, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: One would think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't know that you and me will make it there.
37:01
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
37:03
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
37:04
[SPEAKER_00]: We might.
37:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, some cheese will in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Make it.
37:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of kind of interesting that it was real enough to make it in the Smithsonian that we don't trust.
37:15
[SPEAKER_00]: But then it kind of gets turned into like, uh, not so much of an interesting thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds more like a cover up to me.
37:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
37:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So description of...
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[SPEAKER_00]: the mammoth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The object is a single piece of Wilk's shell that has engraving of a mammoth on one surface while the opposite side is undecrated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The shell has two small perforations along one side where a chord would have been strong through to allow the gorge to be worn around the neck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The depiction of the mammoth is oriented horizontally along the shell, rather than vertically as it's most commonly is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or as is most common.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This means when worn, the mammoth is depicted as head facing down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It now bears some damage as the object was crushed by a microscope while undergoing test at the Smithsonian Institute in the late 20th century.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the scientists at the Smithsonian
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[SPEAKER_00]: Crushed the shell under the microscope why they were trying to look out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that sounds like a fucking Whoopsie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You said cover up and I'm like, yeah, you're right.
38:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I like this could be interesting proof that Willie Mammoth's in humans coexist in Delaware.
38:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Psych, hope nobody crushes this with a microscope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is breaking it with a microscope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it probably
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[SPEAKER_00]: As if anybody seen a wooly mammoth and Delaware, hit us up.
38:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Next, we got some UFOness, a little UFO story here.
38:53
[SPEAKER_00]: November 6, 2016, military jets buzzed by an alien aircraft over Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bethany Church, Bethany Beach, Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Witness, my son, his wife and I were in Bethany Beach on November 6, 2016 at 1110am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The sky was crystal clear blue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We observed three military planes flying east at about 25,000 feet, about a mile apart heading over the Atlantic Ocean with long Contrails.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were talking about how clear we could see the aircraft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of the sudden out of the northeast, we saw a bright silver acorn shaped object approached the middle craft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If flew over the top of the same speed as the aircraft for about four seconds, then shot off at a high rate of speed to the southwest and disappeared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We looked at each other saying, what was that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We concluded that we had just seen a UFO.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were beside ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What we saw was real and very clear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I called Dover Air Force Base.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They said it wasn't in their jurisdiction and to call the Philadelphia International Airport.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We called them, they listened and said to call the Dover Air Force Base.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one wanted to talk about it, really weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that makes sense that no one wanted to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that they called the Air Force, like, hey, we saw you have over your planes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to call the Airport.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of the the the airport, they're going to send guys out there a little light ones and bring them in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some other UFO, but there wasn't a whole lot of information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some videos and stuff, but there wasn't a lot of like actual literature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, Delaware has a lot of haunted places, because I'm pretty sure it's pretty old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you got Delawareians hanging out with William Amethes, you know there were people there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they've been there for a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the UFOness, there wasn't a whole lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was some interesting triangle UFO videos, but as far as a counselor wasn't a whole lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next, we go to Long Cemetery in Frankfurt, Delaware, with the Catman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Catman is a creature that apparently was a caretaker for the Long Cemetery in Graviard in Frankfurt, Delaware, whom had Catlike features.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Long Cemetery is located on a dirt road path in Sussex County, and has been there since the 1800s, sources say they have spotted the Catman watching over the cemetery from beyond the grave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the most popular sightings a catman was while some teenagers wandered into the cemetery at night to drink some booze.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They soon were scared off seeing the ghostly images of a dark manlike creature standing in the distance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Legend has it while he lived to catman took his job as a caretaker of the graveyard very seriously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in his passing, he scared off all you little delawarian boozers out there, disrespecting
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's other places to booze it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Drunkards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not in the catman's category.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's weird that some of the people come back as animals in Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That should be concerning for everyone in Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently, this dude had cat-like features while he was alive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So take that for one, it's worse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think how do you have cat-like features?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You blick milk from a bowl, got some little whiskers, that seems more like a fetish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know nothing about Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't kink shame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where's where might be strange?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Delaware is probably strange.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You probably write about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Others have said he's buried in the center of the Frankfurt graveyard in an above two,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The story is, if you knock three times on the brick wall behind the cemetery, he will tamper with your car so that it won't start when you try to leave the fucking worst idea ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go break our car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got another source here that says, legend here, sinners, less around a literal cat, human hybrid, and more on a fully human cemetery caretaker, who is said to have unusually cat-like features.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He seems to have taken his job very seriously, as he was frequently said to chase off teenagers who were trying to use this occluded cemetery as a hangout spot, aka booze spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the cat man died, he was interned in a buffground crypt that sadly had to be torn down in 1994, which the other one didn't say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Due to frequent threats of vandalism, so the boosters came back for revenge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shame on you revenge of the boosers shame on you picking on some poor lowly cat man Yeah, I'll even trying to take a cemetery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to keep it cleaned up I think he wasn't a cat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was just a dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was cat like feet just an ugly dude He was just an ugly dude poor fucker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was out there picking up all your booze bottles and shit And you guys have just harassed them from beyond the grave try to weed it around the headstones and unacceptable
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those who saw the tomb before its demolition claim to see Markings resembling cat scratches on its exterior.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, coincidence?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle thinks not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What else we got there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a look into here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cats are the devil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially cat man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cat man's are the definitely the devil.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to butcher this name so I apologize to any indigenous people of Delaware when I say this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next we have the mu-way, mu-way, M-H-U-W-E, the M-H is so on me off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's sound is that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: M-U-E.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the mu-way is considered to be the Lenape tribes answer to the window go, which is finnerecing that you brought that up earlier with the deer man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With the ripped, just shredded deer man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been name in real life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably rip buffington.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a solid name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, this monster is said to be described as an ice giant with a ravenous hunger for human flesh that towers high over the trees.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a giant way bigger than regular wind ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say that's definitely not regular wind ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's said to be cyber and head on steroids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's said to be created when a person succumbs to cannibalism or winter time induced insanity, which that kind of leads when to go with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's definitely when to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when to go lower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thus, the MuA myth serves as a similar purpose to the wind to go myth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To encourage tribe members not to give into their worst impulses during times of starvation and to act in the community's best interests.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So don't cannibalize people no matter how hungry you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean I feel like that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's like a general rule of thumb there or you'll turn into an ice giant Fortunately though, there is a caveat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Loppy legend says that a mu-way can be turned back into a human if one treats them with kindness and gives them snacks of civilized meals, fruits, vegetables, and animal meat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think that's going to work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can bring it back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can save them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can bring them back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what do you think the odds are?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The wind goes going to listen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's he's something he's about a hundred feet tall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So probably not good.
46:46
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on me in here in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not good.
46:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And to wrap it up here, I did find some big foot encounters from the BFRO in the very own outskirts of Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a couple of these, the icing the Delaware and cake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do the people from Delaware call themselves?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Delawareian?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Delaware's?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Delaware's?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Delaware Wolves?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, get it.
47:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see myself out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the first one we got, I think these go in chronological order if they're going to be a 40.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They do as a matter of fact, we're going to start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the late 1990s, February of 1998, 99 to be exact.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two teenagers were on a late night drive, down Route 24, between Angola and Lewis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When an animal twice the size of a deer ran into the road on all fours, the witnesses say it paused in the middle of the road and stared at them with glowing red eyes before crossing to the other side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The boys became especially terrified as they drove past the spot where the creature crossed
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[SPEAKER_00]: which the the fence rail dog had glowing red eyes too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering about that because there are a lot of things out there that have a reported glowing red eyes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if it was on a forest twice the size of a deer, that would be that's a fence rail dog size.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is and as far as big the goes, you don't hear too many stories of him being on all fours, but they do exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That you can like imagine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're you're pretty close on with the the fence post dog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah It's similarities, you know twice the size of a deer that thinks tin feet long for feet tall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's shoulders I feel like I feel like that's probably and it could also be some of the shapeshifter lore Because they saw the humanoid figure standing over there maybe maybe the fence rail dog is a shapeshifter Maybe all these maybe in Delaware all the cryptids with things
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[SPEAKER_00]: true story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: June 2003, a father and son from a napolis, Maryland were returning from a trip to Cape Hennlipin State Park where they probably saw the corpse light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't confirm it or not because it didn't say anything about it, but I bet they did down route 404 when they stopped to let some deer cross the road in front of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just past the intersection with Route 1, the pair were shocked to see something else across the road alongside the deer, a pair of bipedal creatures, one shorter than the other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were gone too quickly for the witnesses to discern much detail other than general hide estimate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The father said the larger one was taller than his son, who stood six foot, while the son stated that it could have looked the basketball player Yao Ming in the eye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean stands at 7 foot 6.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tall mofo there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big tallie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next, we have January 13th, 2004, a student at Delaware Technical Community College in Georgetown was driving home from a night class when he illuminated a human-like figure standing next to a telephone pole as he drove down old furnace road.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He described the figure as seven to eight feet tall and covered in black hair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The creature spent most of the encounter with its back to the witness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When it turned to look at him, the witness lost his nerve and sped away from the area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He would later provide a drawing of the creature he saw to the BFRO, the Bigfoot Field Researcher's Organization.
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[SPEAKER_00]: got two more August 16th, 2010 Motorist Betty R was driving her family home from vacation at Bethany Beach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When, as she was driving down Route 1 near the exit to Milton, she saw something dark brown standing in a cornfield about 300 feet away from the road.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She described a figure standing 70 feet tall with its shoulders three foot wide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She saw its face and profile and claimed it supported a prominent brow ridge, nose and mouth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She does not think it was a scarecrow, a human or farming equipment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I trust Betty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy how big big feet are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I asked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you, I love that like they had to discern that she didn't see farming equipment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't a combine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a big foot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't the previous one, I liked that when the Bigfoot looked at the dude, he just sped away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't blame it there, I probably does the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't dealing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I ain't equipped to handle this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last one here in November 13, 2012, a couple living near Redden State Forests had returned home from a shopping trip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the husband was startled by the most blaring scream I'd ever heard in my life, followed by four loud wood knocks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the husband called that, his wife, outside, she responded with skepticism at first, only to be frightened and turned by four more loud wood knocks, and the sound of something large moving through the trees.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The witness estimated there were no more than 100 feet away from where the sound was coming from and recalled that his dog was heavily marking the area the next day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did read that Delaware has some of the fewest big foot sightings in all of North America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's way down on the list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's unexpected.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bigfoot's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's unexpected.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's because it's small and like look at where it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of just jutted out here in the middle of the damn ocean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is kind of a fucked up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a peninsula.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is kind of a fucked up way to get to get to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you have it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it was, you know, I tried my best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want to have a whole story full of ghost stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll blame you there.
52:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Because like that's what you get when you look at Delaware stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every everywhere in Delaware is haunted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll give you that's kind of cool, but like you got it, you got to get some other stuff going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Need some more UFOs, means more cryptid, let's try to round it out a little bit Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I got for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody from Delaware, let's listen in?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, hey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got some weird stuff from Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to really want to redeem yourself, send it our way definitely let us know We're here for like to hear that Delaware is a little more Creepy than that if you've seen the swamp creature if you've seen the deer man if you if you've seen The big foot if you've seen deer foot Send it love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hear it Let's hear deer foot scary
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[SPEAKER_00]: on that note.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for hanging out with us this wonderful Monday and uh hope everybody's you know just kicking it kicking it getting through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Till we meet again, stay safe, stay weird, and if you're from Delaware, I don't even know if Delaware exists honestly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just, just a holler out as a fear from Delaware to prove it.