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CRY-BABY DIDDY: Diddy No Bail · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Crime Baby, Didy Didy Nobel,
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  Speaker 1: deal with It Combs, Shawn Colmbs breaking down and crying
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  Speaker 1: like a baby in court and now he's been sent
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  Speaker 1: to wait in a hell hole wait for his fate.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: We are living in this dirty diddy dystopian dumpster world.
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  Speaker 3: It was all about handpuff.
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  Speaker 4: He's running this entire trial with his ego is very,
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  Speaker 4: very big, as he was the ringmaster and we played
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  Speaker 4: along in his surface.
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  Speaker 1: Shawn Combs has been orchestrating a meteoric career for years,
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  Speaker 1: Rising Rising, Rising, is at any surprise he orchestrated his
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  Speaker 1: trial that ended in two convictions but three acquittals with
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  Speaker 1: me in all star panel to make sense of what
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  Speaker 1: we know Tonight, Sean Gumes breaking down and crying like
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  Speaker 1: a baby in court as he is told no bail
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  Speaker 1: joining me now. Formerly outside the courthouse, she had to
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  Speaker 1: be taken to a secure location after the verdict went
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  Speaker 1: down yesterday. It was no laughing matter, Tiasa. It's easy
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  Speaker 1: to laugh the next night, the night after, but you
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  Speaker 1: were mobbed outside the courthouse attacked for not being a
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  Speaker 1: Diddy sympathizer and threatened describe what happened outside the courthouse everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Tisa Teal's joining us. You can find her online on
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  Speaker 1: YouTube at Tisa Tales.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead, Tisa Nancy.
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  Speaker 6: I laugh because I remain here and I remain adamant
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  Speaker 6: that the jury got it wrong and Shaun Dity Calms
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  Speaker 6: and his supporters are dangerous and need to be held into.
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  Speaker 7: Let me take you back to what happened.
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  Speaker 6: Outside of the courthouse. The verdict came in, I expected
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  Speaker 6: the celebrations from Sean's family, ran downstairs to bring it
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  Speaker 6: to you guys life.
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  Speaker 7: That is when the mob descended. People, grown men, grown men.
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  Speaker 6: Hordes of grown men coming over, yelling, we're going to
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  Speaker 6: treat you worse than Cassie.
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  Speaker 7: What happened.
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  Speaker 5: What happened to Cassie is nothing.
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  Speaker 7: Wait till we get our hands on you. F then,
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  Speaker 7: b you need to die.
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  Speaker 5: You need this. We're going to reach into you.
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  Speaker 6: Literally, two armed guards were protecting me from a swarm
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  Speaker 6: of men of Ditty supporters. This is what they wanted
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  Speaker 6: to do to celebrate when their degenerate king came up.
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  Speaker 7: They but in that moment My heart.
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  Speaker 5: Broke for the witnesses.
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  Speaker 6: My heart broke for myself because I realized they wanted to.
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  Speaker 5: Bring me to heal.
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  Speaker 6: They wanted me to pay all this anger and animosity
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  Speaker 6: they felt that I stood there on the side of victims.
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  Speaker 6: It boiled and in that moment with a gold star
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  Speaker 6: that jury decision gave them.
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  Speaker 7: They knew that they lived in a world that they.
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  Speaker 6: Could harm somebody, a woman for speaking truth to power,
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  Speaker 6: and nothing would happen to them, just like in their
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  Speaker 6: minds at that time, they thought nothing was happening to
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  Speaker 6: their king. I was overjoyed when I heard the judge
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  Speaker 6: Aaron did the right thing and kept that monster in jail,
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  Speaker 6: and it sent a chilling effect to all the melee
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  Speaker 6: that was going on in the courthouse. Regardless of what
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  Speaker 6: the jury said, there is still law in America, and.
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  Speaker 7: You will be held you will be held accountable.
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  Speaker 5: It was a horrible scene.
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  Speaker 7: And get this, I had two armed guards escorting me through.
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  Speaker 6: The melee and they were even like they'd never seen
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  Speaker 6: anything like this. But there were so many other women,
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  Speaker 6: there were so many other vloggers and media that did
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  Speaker 6: not have armed guards protecting them, that suffered the same
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  Speaker 6: fate and my heart grows to everyone.
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  Speaker 7: It was quite a scene at the courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: Buttersa Cholls, wasn't there a woman?
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  Speaker 5: Wasn't there?
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  Speaker 1: A woman outside the courthouse and nothing but brief squirting
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  Speaker 1: herself with baby oil, dancing Nancy.
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  Speaker 6: I was literally sitting there saying, is this what Sodom and.
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  Speaker 7: Gomora look like?
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  Speaker 5: It looked like Rome was burning.
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  Speaker 6: There was a woman in a copair of column climb
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  Speaker 6: underwears and a bra momentarily because even the bra started coming.
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  Speaker 5: Out, and she was sitting there, shimming, bouncing.
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  Speaker 6: Acting like it, acting like she was at like like
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  Speaker 6: the ship bar Right never been to her, but I
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  Speaker 6: assume that's what goes on.
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  Speaker 7: Why there was.
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  Speaker 6: A man with a bottle of baby oil squirting it
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  Speaker 6: and it's a baby ole hit her chest. The crowd
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  Speaker 6: was like, yes, yes, yes, more more more, celebrating for
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  Speaker 6: their degenerate king. I've never seen anything like.
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  Speaker 7: It, and I hope to God never to.
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  Speaker 5: See anything like it again.
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  Speaker 6: At that moment, I got had asked me do you
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  Speaker 6: think we need Yes, Lord, please flood it. Let me
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  Speaker 6: into the arc, flood it, flood it all if this
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  Speaker 6: needs to be washed away. I have never seen such
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  Speaker 6: the proud degeneracy and what are you celebrating? That's all
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  Speaker 6: I kept saying, what are these people celebrating? This man
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  Speaker 6: was convicted on two still very serious criminal charges. But
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  Speaker 6: more than that, I see that Mark Agnafilil's gaslighting worked
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  Speaker 6: on the jury.
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  Speaker 7: But are we going to forget that?
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  Speaker 6: We did not see Cassie fleeing a freak off and
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  Speaker 6: being dragged back. So we did not hear Cassie's mom
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  Speaker 6: say that she was extorted twenty k because she thought
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  Speaker 6: her daughter's freae call thing she were going to be released.
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  Speaker 6: Did we not hear all this testimony about him literally
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  Speaker 6: regardless of what Jane wanted, brutally beating her, beating her.
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  Speaker 5: In the shower, beating her in the foyer, stopping.
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  Speaker 6: Her down, then forcing her to take drugs, put makeup on,
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  Speaker 6: and engage in a freak off, just to punish and
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  Speaker 6: humiliate her.
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  Speaker 7: The fact that the jury and did he support.
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  Speaker 6: I just wanted to act like all this horrible evidence
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  Speaker 6: we heard did not happen, and they were celebrating that
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  Speaker 6: this monster got out.
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  Speaker 5: Listen.
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  Speaker 6: It literally was like I was literally watching Sodom and Gomore.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know what was going on, but there was
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  Speaker 6: some demonic energy going around.
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  Speaker 5: Speaking of what was going down outside the courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: As Diddy Seawan comes, breaks down and cries like a
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  Speaker 1: baby in court and is told no bail. Take a
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  Speaker 1: look at what she's talking about. This from armand Wiggins
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram.
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  Speaker 8: When the verdict is announced, crowds outside the courthouse go wild.
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  Speaker 8: Supporters spray baby.
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  Speaker 5: Oil at each other.
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  Speaker 8: Observers with different opinions get in shouting matches. The Colmbs
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  Speaker 8: family is met with cheers as they enter an exit
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  Speaker 8: court and media members and content creators rely on court
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  Speaker 8: security for protection as they make their reports. Has both
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  Speaker 8: sides submit their arguments for and against pre Sentencing Bill,
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  Speaker 8: a large group begins to chant let Puffy go.
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  Speaker 5: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 8: Has both sides submit their arguments for and against pre
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  Speaker 8: sentencing Bill, a large group begins to chant let Puffy go.
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  Speaker 5: Let Puffy go. Well, the judge didn't agree.
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  Speaker 1: Shawn Combs no bail and he says straight back to
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  Speaker 1: the Brooklyn MDC to await his fate. This is after
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  Speaker 1: he breaks down and cries in court, joining me special
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  Speaker 1: guest Rob Shooter, longtime p R Guru for Shawn Combs.
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  Speaker 5: He knows Shawn Combs better than any of us.
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  Speaker 1: Can can even imagine hosts of naughty but Nice podcasts
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  Speaker 1: found at robshooter dot substack dot com. You know what
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  Speaker 1: that scene reminds me of. That reminds me of something
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  Speaker 1: that happened Shooter. After the OJ Simpson verdict. Okay, the
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  Speaker 1: case was over and I was still prosecuting in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: prosecuting felonies, and I flew to New York to see
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  Speaker 1: Heraldo Rivera, our friend, Heraldo Rivera, and at that time
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  Speaker 1: he had a daytime talk show and he was having
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  Speaker 1: on many of the jurars.
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  Speaker 5: They had written a book making.
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  Speaker 1: Money off the trial. Hey it's America, have ad it
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  Speaker 1: And it was called something like Madam Foreman of the Jury,
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  Speaker 1: something about that, and I believe the foreman was part
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  Speaker 1: of the group that was at Heraldo. Anyway, we did
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  Speaker 1: the show and I had no ACTX to grind with them.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were totally wrong and were swayed by
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  Speaker 1: Simpson's fame. But that said, the trial was over. There
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  Speaker 1: was nothing I could do to affect the case.
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  Speaker 5: It was done.
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  Speaker 1: And these were elderly ladies, and so I was very
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  Speaker 1: polite to them. We had a conversation. I walked out
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  Speaker 1: with them and walked them with them to the sidewalk.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to this shooter. They were all out there waiting
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  Speaker 1: and a huge black stretch limo pulls up. I had
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  Speaker 1: never been in stretch limo my wife at that time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd even seen one. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: had not, And I watched all of them. They were
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  Speaker 1: all getting in. I think there were three of them,
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  Speaker 1: as I recall, and the one of them turned back
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  Speaker 1: to me. I was standing there, and I remember this distinctly.
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  Speaker 1: I could not afford a heavy coat. I did not
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  Speaker 1: have on a heavy coat, and it was cold, and
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  Speaker 1: I was standing there and they got in, and the
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  Speaker 1: last one to get in turned around. She had her
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  Speaker 1: hand on the open limo door and she.
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  Speaker 5: Said, you know what, Nancy, this is the best thing
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  Speaker 5: that ever happened to me.
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  Speaker 1: I've go on too, all the best restaurants, I've stayed in,
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  Speaker 1: all the best hotels, these amazing meals and room service.
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  Speaker 5: I even got these.
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  Speaker 1: Expensive clothes to wear on TV. It's been the best
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  Speaker 1: thing that ever happened to me. And she was so happy,
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  Speaker 1: and she got in the limo shut the door, and
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  Speaker 1: I remember standing there and I watched the limo pull
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  Speaker 1: off to take them to the airport. I was watching
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  Speaker 1: the tail lights and it started snowing. The best thing
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  Speaker 1: that happened to them, Nicole Brown's head was attached to
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  Speaker 1: her body with just the skin on the back of
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  Speaker 1: her neck. She was basically beheaded by Orenthal James Simpson.
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  Speaker 5: Ron Goldman found dead at a pool of blood.
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  Speaker 1: And it's the best thing that ever happened to that jury.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that was my flashback as the verdict was
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  Speaker 1: being read in court.
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  Speaker 4: I feel Nancy, I totally feel for you. Last night
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  Speaker 4: I went out to have dinner with friends and somebody
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  Speaker 4: tried to spit on me outside the restaurant, who was
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  Speaker 4: a Diddy supporter. This is real, what we are seeing
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  Speaker 4: happening outside the courthouse. What happened to our friend Tisha
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  Speaker 4: that she has been brave enough to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: It's real.
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  Speaker 4: People out there are scared, Nancy. I reported yesterday that
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  Speaker 4: Cassie has increased her security now she's got a twenty
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  Speaker 4: four hour guard on her home. People are very, very frightened.
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  Speaker 4: Just because Puffy is still in jail. Thankfully he can't
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  Speaker 4: get to her, but his fans can, his army, his
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  Speaker 4: warriors can, and so it's dangerous out there. And I
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  Speaker 4: think it's easy to dismiss that. It's easy to think, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this is just excitements. This was just after the verdict.
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  Speaker 4: This will calm down. I'm not sure it will.
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  Speaker 3: Nancy.
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  Speaker 4: I've been doing this a long long time, and I've
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  Speaker 4: certainly said things and wrote things that might have ruffled
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  Speaker 4: people the wrong way. But I've never had somebody try
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  Speaker 4: to spit on me before last night. That happened for
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  Speaker 4: the first time in New York City. Coming out of
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  Speaker 4: a restaurant. Someone recognized me from television, from maybe my column,
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  Speaker 4: from working with Diddy, and they're really angry, and I
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  Speaker 4: could see, Nancy. I could see in their eyes hate.
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  Speaker 4: They absolutely hated that I'm not worshiping the same god
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  Speaker 4: to the God of Diddy that they are.
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  Speaker 1: Oh here, number one. I feel guilty about what's happened
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  Speaker 1: to you and Atisa, because I feel like by speaking
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  Speaker 1: out on our program, you've been targeted. I have to
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  Speaker 1: tell you, when the Twins left early this morning for
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  Speaker 1: their jobs, I was actually worried.
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  Speaker 5: I followed them a life.
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  Speaker 1: Thiry sixty, you know, just to make sure they got there.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, what, what? Where am I living?
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  Speaker 7: What?
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  Speaker 5: Why is it like this?
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  Speaker 1: I want to hear exactly, exactly every detail of someone
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  Speaker 1: coming up to you and spitting at you at a
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  Speaker 1: restaurant last night, every detail.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, walking out of a restaurant in Midtown. We'd had
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  Speaker 4: a great dinner. It was a fun night with friends,
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  Speaker 4: and we were saying oh goodbyes outside. People in New
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  Speaker 4: York get subways or maybe an uber or a taxi home.
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  Speaker 4: I was waiting for my uber. It had been a long,
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  Speaker 4: long day. I was so looking forward to seeing my
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  Speaker 4: friends and not talking about this monster, not talking about Dinny,
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  Speaker 4: talking about everything else, and having a drinker Martine. It
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  Speaker 4: was a really great, cathartic night. It was that moment
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  Speaker 4: at the end of a long day that I think
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  Speaker 4: so many people can appreciate and look forward to. And
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  Speaker 4: when I was leaving the restaurant, we hadn't finished talking yet.
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  Speaker 4: We were good we are good friends, and we were
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  Speaker 4: gossiping about Cape Middleton. We were got something about different
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  Speaker 4: stories coming out of London, and somebody tapped me on
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  Speaker 4: my shoulder and I turned around and they said you're
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  Speaker 4: Rob Schutter, aren't you? And I was like yes, and
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  Speaker 4: then they spat.
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  Speaker 3: They spat.
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  Speaker 4: They missed me, but they did spit, Nancy. And then
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  Speaker 4: I looked up and I said, what the hell? And
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  Speaker 4: then I realized I had to back off very very
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  Speaker 4: quickly because the hate, the hate in this person's eyes
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  Speaker 4: who does not know me. But let me make this
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  Speaker 4: clear too, They don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Did hey, I worked with him? You didn't I did?
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  Speaker 4: I know this man? He doesn't care about you. To
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  Speaker 4: think somebody would be that loyal, that emotional, that upset
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  Speaker 4: for somebody that they don't know, and the person they
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  Speaker 4: think they know is not that person, it's heartbreaking, Nancy.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't feel anger. I felt a little bit vulnerable.
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  Speaker 4: I felt a little bit scared. I think I was safe.
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  Speaker 4: I felt sad, Nancy. I felt so so that Diddy
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  Speaker 4: has whipped people up into this frenzy Rob shooter.
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  Speaker 5: Was it a man or a woman?
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  Speaker 4: And the spit at you a man? There was three
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  Speaker 4: of them walking together. It looked as if they had
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  Speaker 4: finished work. It looked like they were heading home. It
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  Speaker 4: was just an unfortunate moment where I was in the
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  Speaker 4: wrong place at the wrong time.
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  Speaker 1: On the wrong day, Robshooter. It's because they don't want
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  Speaker 1: to see. They don't want to know the truth about
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  Speaker 1: Sean Comes. They want to believe what they've believed for
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  Speaker 1: years and years and years. We what Cassie, Mia Jane,
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  Speaker 1: so many others, and what the hey happened to Gina.
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  Speaker 1: Now in retrospect, we know why she didn't come forward,
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  Speaker 1: but they don't want to see. Did I ever tell you,
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  Speaker 1: Shooter that I had my investigator, Ernest.
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  Speaker 5: We could not have been more different.
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  Speaker 1: We were together over ten years, through thick and thin.
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  Speaker 5: Every day, every trial.
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  Speaker 1: We had one argument in ten years one and it
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  Speaker 1: was over O. J. Simpson because he insisted Simpson was
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  Speaker 1: framed because of his race, and I insisted he was
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  Speaker 1: behind bars because he murdered two people, and that Ernest
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to face the facts that the Simpson he
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  Speaker 1: thinks he knows, the one that's running through the airport
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  Speaker 1: on the commercial or you know, star football player, that's
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  Speaker 1: not the real Orenthal James Simpson.
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  Speaker 5: And to this day, to this day, he's still mad
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  Speaker 5: at me. He's still mad about put g Simpson.
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  Speaker 1: We don't even talk about him when we talk, when
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  Speaker 1: we get together we don't even talk about Simpson. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we do a little. I say, you do know Simpson's guilty, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he's dead, but he's guilty.
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  Speaker 5: He's still No. They don't want to see these people.
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  Speaker 1: The people that spit at you last night, don't want
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  Speaker 1: to see the testimony that came out at court. Shooter,
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  Speaker 1: how is that You're the pr guru, you know how
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  Speaker 1: to shape shift everything.
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  Speaker 5: How is this happening?
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  Speaker 4: I think, Nancy, for this is a tale as old
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  Speaker 4: as time.
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  Speaker 3: We have built people up.
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  Speaker 4: We know in America how to build celebrities, how to
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  Speaker 4: create celebrities. Celebrities are born, they are created, carefully created,
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  Speaker 4: and we turn them into these godlike figures. And often
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  Speaker 4: mostly these celebrities live out our fantasies for us, the
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  Speaker 4: tailor Swifts and the Beyonces, and we wonder what it'd
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  Speaker 4: be like to be that famous and that rich. But
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  Speaker 4: every's often there's a celebrity that comes along and OJ Simpson,
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  Speaker 4: that did he And when we realize that the image
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  Speaker 4: is not the truth, it can be devastating. This isn't
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  Speaker 4: about a celebrity being rude at Starbucks. This is a crime,
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  Speaker 4: and this is dangerous this is people's lives. What Puffy
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  Speaker 4: did is not just an A list celebrity being a brat.
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  Speaker 4: It's being a criminal. And unfortunately, though the mystique, the image,
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  Speaker 4: the world that we've created where we idolize these people,
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  Speaker 4: they weaponize it. Celebrities know how to use their power
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  Speaker 4: and Puffy did that from the day one, From the
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  Speaker 4: first day he stepped into that courtroom. He knew what
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  Speaker 4: he was doing. He was putting on the Puffy Show,
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  Speaker 4: and we fell for it.
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  Speaker 3: He's not used to being told no.
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  Speaker 5: He throws a major tantrum because he can.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen him get so angry that he looks like
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  Speaker 4: he's about to pass out.
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  Speaker 3: The veins in his neck are popping.
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  Speaker 5: The kickings, the beatings, the draggings.
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  Speaker 3: He just can't believe that somebody says no to him.
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  Speaker 3: It can't believe it.
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  Speaker 5: With us an all star panel.
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  Speaker 1: But first, back to Tisa Tills from YouTube Tisa Tills
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube Tea.
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  Speaker 5: Sean comes breaking.
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  Speaker 1: Down and crying like a baby in court when he
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: is told no bail sent back to the MDC to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: await his fate. A hearing is scheduled and the next
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: three business days for him to come back in court
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and make his case. Tell me what happened in court
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: when Seawn comes in court.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: In court, we saw Judge Aaron.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: Now nobody knows what's in his mind, but the way
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: he came in, like hell on Wills, it made me
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: feel that maybe Judge Aaron thought that the jury got
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: it a bit wrong.
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: Mark A.
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: Gonnafield, you'll rolled in with his comedy routine that it
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: worked on those traulve jurors and tried to even say
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: that the abuse that Jaye suffered being beaten.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: Staplashedly in a shower Hit Diddy was clothed being forced
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: to do a freak off. Moments later, he tried to
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: say that it looks like it might have been self defense.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: Judge Aaron shut it down.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Your client is violent.
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: We saw it on the video.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: He said everything that we've been thinking, and he said
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: he's not getting out. Mark Agnafilio, well, yeah, I know
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: we can arrange a package that you like. The motion
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: is denied and I will see you. I believe it's
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: October second for sentencing unless you have a better idea.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: Did he literally that Hubers did he had floated in
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: He really did do the impossible.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: And I remember last week when Rob was like this man,
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you the stardust people wanted. I didn't want
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: to believe it, but.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: This man came floating in off of his star dust,
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: fully expecting to go home. They had gotten security for
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: Star Island because they expected him to walk out. That night,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: everybody was on and when you saw the way his
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: whole body slumped, the way he looked like tears were
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: rolling down his face, all because Judge Aaron finally put
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: a stop to this nonsense.
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: And again I.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: Want to thank Judge Aaron because it had a chilling effect.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: Everybody was worried about me last night, but you know what,
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: I stood tall because I realized they wanted what they
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: did to Rob.
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: They want us afraid to come out.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: They want us to hide in the shadow like roaches,
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: the way they should be hiding in the shadows. They
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: want us to be bowed and ashamed and hide away
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: so they can literally let their deranged king run rapid.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Kudles from Rob for holding.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: His ground, and kudos for Judge Aaron for finally popping
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: that bubble and for Diddy to see reality.
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: You might have got away with the worst of it,
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: but the fed still.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Caught you in their crossheads.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: And in that moment we saw why he was.
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: Slumped, head bowed, looking like tears were rolling down his
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: face because he thought he knew to see reality finally
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: come crashing in. That was the only justice we got
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: in that day, but it was a lot of justice
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: and it was well deserved justice.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: What did you just say about self defense?
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: Yes, it makes me so mad to think about it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: Mark Agnofilial had the nerve to suggest that what did
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: he did that night with Jane when he forced drugs
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: down her throat and made a perform a freak all
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: with fresh bruises and swelling covered up with makeup. Mark
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: Agnofilial said, there's evidence to suggest.
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: That that was some type of self defense that my
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: client was.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, whit whit white, white, white, white, white, white white.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Linna Shaw joining me from Lynne's Warrior.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: She's the founder and executive director dedicated to ending sex
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: trafficking and abuse on girls and women. Okay, I've heard
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: she asked for it. It was her idea, she started it.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: It was consensual. She's a slut or as Agnifilo. Agnifilo
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: said in court she's a beautiful woman, she loves sex.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: On and on, the same.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Old stereotypes you've always heard, but this is a new one.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: It was self defense.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Sean Combs was acting in self defense when he beat Jane.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Blah blah blah blah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Blah, the same old playbook.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: Let's kick it to the curb.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: First of all, I want to say something, a great
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: shout out to Tissa and to Rob stay safe. I
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: put out a statement on the Warriors about this right
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: away with the verdict. I've been attacked relentlessly all day
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and all night yesterday, and guess what by women?
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: Women?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: So what does this say about all of this? So
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: now you have a lawyer, a lawyer who's saying self defense.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I've heard this one before, Nancy, anything to blame the victim.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: My concern here, though, is society. Is the justice system
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: itself not understanding accepting all of this. How come all
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: of those Diddy disciples attacking Tisa and others, how come
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: they aren't you in this frenzy to support victims, survivors,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: those who testified. Why is it that there's this power
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: over this criminal, convicted criminal, this monster, pim, pimp, pimp
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: traffick or traffick er, trafficker. You know what, that playbook
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: is old. These lawyers can say what they want. My
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: concern here also is that women are attacking me for
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: putting out what I am saying that he is he
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: got off because they didn't prove sex trafficking and I
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: don't know what I'm doing. Well, you know what, everybody
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: should walk in my boots, come along with me with
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: the warriors, and do the work we do in the communities,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and they'll understand real quickly. These jurors, I wish I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: could have taken all twelve of them on the road
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: with me. They would have convicted him of sex trafficking
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: right away because they have to see reality and they're
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: blinded by as Rob pointed out, and Tisa, this stard ust,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: this wealth, this power. But you know what, he's still
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, a convicted criminal. He
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: still is in jail. We still have counts against him,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and he will go down, maybe not right away, in
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the next few years, he's going down joining me.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Troy Slayton, renowned defense attorney and joining us out of
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the LA jurisdiction. Troy Slayton, Look, okay, you got a
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: lot of tricks in your magician's bag that you whip
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: out in front of jury's to get those not guilty
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: verdicts that you seem to get sadly frequently. But Troy Slayton,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: in a case like this, have you ever seen the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: defense argue self defense that the alleged rapist, the alleged
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: sex trafficker was acting and self defense. I didn't see
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: any pictures of bruises on Seawn Comes. All I saw
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: was him running up and down the halls of the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Intercontinental and nothing but a towel.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: And we now know.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Why he had the towel that he was clutching so desperately,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: because he didn't want this to be seen on the camera.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: That said, have you ever seen.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Self defense used by an alleged rapist or an alleged
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: sex trafficker.
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: It's the job of the defense attorney, Nancy to be
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: a zealous advocate for their client and to do everything
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: that they can within the framework of the law to
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: secure an acquittal or to get the best possible deal. Now,
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: I'm not going to sit here and gloat just because
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: I got it right all along that the government overcharged
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: this case. There was not an overreaching.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Yes, you would never glow. That's just non choice.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Go here.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: He would never say I told you so. Oh quick, update,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: where's Diddy right now? Oh he's in jail. Okay, continue, but.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Not for much longer.
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: The sentencing guidelines for what is probably going to end
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: up being the most expensive prostitution trial in US history
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: is fifteen to twenty one months. So although he has
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: what we call maximum exposure of ten years on each count,
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: which if ran consecutively, would be twenty years, he's not
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: going to get that. The starting point for the judge
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: here is fifteen to twenty one months, not years, and
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: he's already got starting point.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I've read it and a nutshell.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Unlike state court where I prosecuted in felony superior court,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: where the judge had great, great leeway and dependent on
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: the state to make a very convincing argument when it
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: came to sentencing, in federal court, there's something called the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: federal guidelines. The sentencing guidelines why, because federal judges number one,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: they're a pointed for life. They can do whatever they
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: want to, just like the US Supreme Court. Okay life,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: In case you didn't know, they're not realized they can't
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: get thrown.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Out, they can get impeached.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm you named five justices, Name one justice, one
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: justice US Supreme Court justice, it's ever been impeached?
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Hearing nothing, I'll continue forward. The sentencing guidelines are.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Instituted because federal judges across the country had wildly divergent
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: sentences for this same crime, and defense was starting to.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Say, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He got five
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: years and you're giving me life. How can that be?
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So the sentencing guidelines were put in place to kind
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of corral the federal judges into behaving and having a
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: more consistent sentencing guideline.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: However, there are in a nutshell.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let Troy Slayton give you a legal
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: treatise on this. There are upward and downward departures. And
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I know a lawyer now just barred that made a
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: living of getting snitches behind bars to make up stories
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: to help get downward departures.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Downward departures are.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: When you present the judge evidence to the defendant's favor
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that gets the judge to give a lesser sentence.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: There are also exactly departures.
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: It's called mitigations or aggregating factors. And that's what the
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: attorneys for Diddy are going to do. They're going to
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: say all the great things about him in order to
• 29:31
  Speaker 10: try and get the judge to downward depart or deviate
• 29:34
  Speaker 10: from the sentencing guidelines. It used to be in this country, Nancy,
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: that the sentencing guidelines were mandatory. The judge was confined
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: to in this case to fifteen to twenty one months.
• 29:46
  Speaker 10: But that's no longer the case. The twenty years why
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: discretion to sentence up to the maximum in this sorce.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: But it's not going to happen. Diddy is going to
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: be out in a matter of months, not years.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Your TISA tales give us the sentencing day, which is
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: not until October.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: But Shawn Combs is back in court.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Within the next three business days to have a bill hearing.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: But as to what Slayton's saying, he's absolutely correct. The
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: sentencing for Shawn comes could be anywhere from fifteen months,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: which is the lower end of the federal sentencing guidelines,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: all the way up to twenty years. Twenty years where
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I get that the max on each one of these
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: counts is ten years. If he gets the max on
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: each count, which I believe he should get in light
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: of the violence of this case. Then you run those consecutively,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: one after the other. That's twenty years. Enjoy comes Enjoy. Okay,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: back to Tisa tells Tisa, I also heard you say
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: in addition to Shawn Combs's self defense theory, magnif Loow
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: threw out to the judge yesterday. I think I saw
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the judge doing this on the stand. But that said,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you also said some thing about Star Island.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: What did you say?
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: Diddck's team was so confident that Diddy was coming home
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: that night, they got listened. They won the game, but
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: they decided to do a victory layup.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: They were so confident he was coming home that.
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: They got security and staff on Star Island in order
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: to embrace the homecoming of their dark overload the amount
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: of hubris.
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: And by the way, let's go back to that self
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: defense okay.
• 31:33
  Speaker 12: The judge looked at Diddy and its exact words were,
• 31:36
  Speaker 12: your client enrolled in a batterer's program in New York
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: City right before he got arrested again.
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: How could this be self defense where the first thing
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: he did.
• 31:49
  Speaker 13: Was run in New York City and enroll in a
• 31:51
  Speaker 13: Batteri's program so he could say, oh my God, or
• 31:55
  Speaker 13: change my ways, and a batterer's program for the abuser.
• 31:59
  Speaker 13: Marine called me stick up and said, your honor, his
• 32:01
  Speaker 13: brazeness is ridiculous.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: It is he has no shame. It was quite a
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: moment to see. Did he be pulled down to reality?
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: But the hubers to think that he was coming home
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: because again, Nancy, I was disappointed with the verdict, But
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: like you said, okay, there are two serious criminal charges,
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: and judging.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: By the way the judge was reading.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: Mark Agnifilio, the Riot Act.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: Whatever is the maximum that he can go, I think
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: it's going to be more higher than lower.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: This is not going to be time served.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: And yes it is a small consolation prize, but hopefully
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: Diddy will at least be away for at least four
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: or five years. Anybody knows you're better at that than
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: I am, Nancy. But again it is a small act
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: of mercy that he will be accountable for some of
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: his crimes.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, the Star Island thing, repeat, the Star Island incident.
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: They were so confident this man was coming home.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: They had the party of all parties a homecoming like
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: you've never seen planned. They had full security go down
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: there again, remember last time they tried to get him
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: a released on bail.
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: We're gonna have private security. We're gonna have this. We're
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: gonna have that.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: Okay, so you're gonna be l Chapo and create your
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: own prison on a luxury resort.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Shut up?
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: Did he?
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: They had full security on staff that.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: Would be in line with what the level that probation
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: of probation officer would demand.
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: They had celebrity friends to greet him.
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: They had a whole shindic planned, and they really thought
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: that man was walking out of there that night.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: And by the way, Nancy, I don't think.
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: Enough people have talked about these low life celebrities that
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: came out in droves to congratulate him because he got
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: off on Rico, leaving comments, you can't go to jail
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: for being freaky. Yeah, I know you thought your whole
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: lifestyle was in danger. But nobody is talking about the celebs.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: And now that he's been found not guilty and the
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: jury did.
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: This, they are now coming out and giving him.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: His full support.
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: That comeback tour that I thought was just a pipe dream,
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: it looks like it might be coming to fruition. I
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: don't even think he has to do the fake church
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: route to get back in the good graces of the
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: celebrity friends.
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: But they are all coming out.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Of the word works.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: Look at the post he put liking everything. Congratulations, I
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: knew you're coming home. Pay attention to who now is
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: speaking up, and that's going to tell you who was
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: probably worried about Diddy going down.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: Who's speaking up? Who's speaking up?
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: So many musicians, so many.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Actors, actresses.
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: I can go to the Instagram right now, the posts
• 34:42
  Speaker 14: they put up. Look at everybody that's in the comments,
• 34:45
  Speaker 14: liking it, liking it, giving words of confidence, good to
• 34:49
  Speaker 14: see you home.
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: King.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: There are so many celebrities, And again it makes me
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: wonder because you guys are so quiet, and now you're
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: speaking up. Maybe you're happy that you're white. Life has
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: been lived to survive another day, because why were they
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: so quiet before? Maybe these were some of the people
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: that were worried about Diddy actually speaking.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: You know, it's like roaches.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: When you turn the light on, they all run and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: hide when the light's being shined on them. But you
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: cut the lights off and they can get away. With
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: anything in the dark, when nobody knows what's going on,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: when nobody can see what they're doing. Speaking of refusing
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to see the evidence, going into the jury deliberations with
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: blinders on about who they think Sean comes is.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: How could they ignore his apology.
• 35:38
  Speaker 15: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
• 35:43
  Speaker 15: your life.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you got to do that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 15: I was, I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Make no excuses.
• 35:55
  Speaker 15: My behavior on that video is inexcusable. Full responsibility for
• 36:01
  Speaker 15: my ashes in that video. I'm disgusted. I was disgusted
• 36:08
  Speaker 15: then when I did it. I'm disgusting now and when
• 36:14
  Speaker 15: and I sought out professional help now to go into therapy.
• 36:19
  Speaker 15: I'm going to rehab. Had to asked God for his
• 36:24
  Speaker 15: mercy and grace. I'm so sorry, but I'm committed to
• 36:37
  Speaker 15: be a better mansion every day.
• 36:40
  Speaker 16: I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: In the next three business day, Shawn comes aka did
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: he back in court begging for bond, his sentencing set
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: for October.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: What will go down in that bond?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Here the judge has given us a couple of clues. Yesterday,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: when Shawn Combs kept going trying to get called on
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: like the judge was a school teacher. While his lawyer Agnifilo,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: was making an argument, the district court judge, Judge Aaron
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Subramian ignored Shawn Combs.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: And said to the defense.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Quote, you full throatedly, that's harsh for a judge. You
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: full throatedly, in your closing argument told the jury that
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: there was violence here, and domestic violence is violence. You
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: said this was the case that did have violence. As
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to the basic question of violence. You conceded that, admitted
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: that in your closing and then Agnifilo, in his wisdom,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: come back. I think I just think we should trust him.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: He won't flee.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, Rob Shooter joining us from Naughty but Nice podcast
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: at robshooter dot subseac dot com. You heard that the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: celebration was already planned at Star Island.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Where is Star Island? What is it?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Yees?
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Star Island is in Florida. It's by my amme. It's
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: a luxury island that you need to get permission to
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: get on and off.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: They have a.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Security guard when you enter the one bridge that takes
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: you to this island, and there's one bridge that takes
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: you out. Multimillion dollar homes. These are not just rich people,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: these are super rich people. The average home on Star
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Island is about forty million dollars. I've been to a
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: party on Star Island, not at Diddy's house, but on
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: the island. Not that many homes on the island, I'd
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: guess about fifteen twenty total, all celebrity neighbors, all super
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: super super rich. And now these elites, these very wealthy
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: people who have spent a fortune on these homes, now
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: they're going to have to at some point welcome did
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: He back as a neighbor. They are not happy about this.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: This is not going to be good for the price
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: of their homes. They want rid of him in a
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: way that a lot of people standing at that courtroom
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: screaming and shouting don't. And so his fans are supporting him.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: His neighbors one him got.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: They were already preparing the party at Star Island in Florida.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Keep shooter up, isn't it true?
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Star Island is ninety nautical miles to Cuba. On a yacht,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you can get to Cuba in less than four hours.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: So did he goes out on a moonlight cruise on
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: a yacht? He gone right from Cuba. You can go
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, right, think about it, Shooter, think
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you use that noodle man?
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we should all be using our noodles. Nancy, You're
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: absolutely right. While the lobster is chilling and the champagne
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: is on ice, people waiting at this party, he can
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: literally jump on a boat and get this. His home
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: has a dock. He doesn't even have to go anywhere.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: That boat can pull up literally in his backyard. He
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: can jump on a yacht, on a boat under the
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: cover of darkness, under night, and slip away and will
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: never ever see him again.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Rob Sheeter, is it true that you just published an
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: article there is going to be a Sean Comet did
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: He Women's shelter for abused and beaten women?
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: I guess he could fill the whole thing up.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Nancy.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: So last night I hit the phones and thank you
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: for all the support you've been given my sub stack,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: and so this morning I posted a story. I spoke
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: to three different did He insiders last night saying what's next?
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: What is he going to do?
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: I've reported about the comeback up potentially with Kanye West.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: What else does he plan to do?
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: And all my sources told me that he's going to
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: use this moment as a marketing opportunity. He is shameless.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: This is a chance for him to bounce back. He
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: thinks to be bigger than ever, and I can see
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: him Nancy standing outside a did He women's shelter, cutting
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: the ribbon, saying that he's a protector of women.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: He loves women.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: He's going to flip this narrative. There are no concrete
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: plans for this yet, I point out in the story,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: but it's just one of the options that did He
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: and his team are exploring. How can he bounce back,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: not just in music, not just in fashion, but how
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: can he get his reputation back. Normally we see celebrities
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: going to rehab, remember that, Nancy, They always go off
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: to reab for a few weeks. I'm told Didi he's
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: not going to do that. But he's going to open
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: up potentially several different shelters for battered women around around
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: the country. This is something that is seriously nan say
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: being discussed.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Linn Shaw.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Not not going to happen, never gonna happen. He and
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: his team can talk all they want. They can spend
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: millions of dollars on strategies. They can go on every show,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: which I'm sure he will make his you know, comeback
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: tour being paid who knows how much money to I'm
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: not even calling that because to me, he's dead. So
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: there's no resurrection with this degenerate. Okay, it's never going
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: to happen. If we at the Warriors have to get
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: every warrior we know to go out and stop this,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: we will do it because you know what we know.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: He's all you have to think about is that Cassie video.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I think the judge, even you know, with no bail,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: is like, no, the Cassie video.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: In his mind.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: I'm not a mind reader.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: He is going to fall.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I maintain right now, things they may think are looking good.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I'm reminding everybody all day, yesterday and today. He's still
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: a convicted criminal. He's still sitting in jail. He's an offender.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Offenders don't change their strike. He will come out eventually
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: and he will reoffend or do something worse. He's not
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: going to change. I maintain these shelters they talk about
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a nice pr stunt, It's not happening,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: no way in hell under the Warrior's watch.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: We're not allowing this.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: From armand Wiggins on Instagram.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Did he no bail?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Did he cries in court like a little baby man up?
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: For Pete's sake? You got off on three counts. Why
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: are you crying in court?
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you why.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Because he and all of his followers were convinced he
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: was going to walk out of the courthouse and to
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: his star isled party last night.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: That did not happen.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: And the judge doesn't seem happy with the arguments the
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: defense has made. Judge, please please hear the cries of
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the victims and sentence. Shawn comes to ten plus ten
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: behind bars, joining me now. Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, former Associate
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Warden MDC in Brooklyn, former Senior warden with the US
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Bureau of Prisons, on
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: and On, President New Daylight Foundation, and author of Who
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Are You See It?
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Say It? And Sees It?
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you even have time to appear
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: with us tonight for Pete's sake, but I'm glad that
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: you have, Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, thank you for being with us.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Will Seawn comes stay at the Brooklyn NBC until his
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: sentencing In October.
• 44:44
  Speaker 17: Yes, Nancy, much of the dismay of Seawan Colmbs and
• 44:48
  Speaker 17: his family and supporters. He will be at NBC until
• 44:52
  Speaker 17: his sentencing in October, and mainly because one he probably
• 44:57
  Speaker 17: needs to be there, but secondly means time to complete
• 45:01
  Speaker 17: the pre sentenced investigation report, which I understand the defense
• 45:06
  Speaker 17: was trying to wave that so they can hurry up
• 45:08
  Speaker 17: and get the sentencing. And I have a particular I
• 45:11
  Speaker 17: think I have a belief why that was done, mainly
• 45:15
  Speaker 17: because they probably don't want to hear the impacts.
• 45:17
  Speaker 16: They don't want to hear the victim impact statements.
• 45:21
  Speaker 17: They don't really want to continue to go over the
• 45:24
  Speaker 17: office and conduct because again it talks about the violence
• 45:26
  Speaker 17: with the judge had mentioned yesterday in the bail hearing,
• 45:30
  Speaker 17: and as well as his family history. I think that
• 45:33
  Speaker 17: may be an issue for him as well, because I
• 45:36
  Speaker 17: don't think he wants to really explain his childhood and
• 45:42
  Speaker 17: how he developed the habits that he has, the habits
• 45:45
  Speaker 17: that has.
• 45:45
  Speaker 16: Come to what we saw in the testimony in his trial.
• 45:50
  Speaker 17: So he will be at NBC, and if he is smart,
• 45:54
  Speaker 17: he'll keep his nose clean, He'll stay quiet, he'll comply
• 45:57
  Speaker 17: with the investigation and hope some of the mintingating factors
• 46:01
  Speaker 17: will come into play so that the judge won't go
• 46:05
  Speaker 17: with the higher recommendation of fifty one to sixty months,
• 46:10
  Speaker 17: which the government argued yesterday, and go with the twenty
• 46:12
  Speaker 17: one to twenty seven months that his the first.
• 46:15
  Speaker 16: Team arguing.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Crime stores with Nancy Grace.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: In a nutshell, choice light and veteran defense attorney. What
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: is a PSI pre senate's investigation report.
• 46:34
  Speaker 10: It's where a professional probation officer goes out and does
• 46:40
  Speaker 10: a full investigation, talks to the victims, talks to anyone
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: involved in the case. Usually they even talk to the
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: defendant themselves. I always say that my client can speak
• 46:57
  Speaker 10: to them, but not about the facts of the case.
• 46:59
  Speaker 10: They could talk about their family history, They could talk
• 47:02
  Speaker 10: about what it is that that brought them there except
• 47:05
  Speaker 10: the facts of the case. I mean, what brought them
• 47:07
  Speaker 10: to that point in their life.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: But it's it's so that.
• 47:11
  Speaker 10: Way the judge could have a neutral and independent look
• 47:16
  Speaker 10: at the history, the history of the person, so that
• 47:20
  Speaker 10: way they can make the most fair determination.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: You want to hear what you're saying.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I like the part about hearing what the victims have
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: to say at the PSI President's Investigation.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Report, this is our criminal justice system.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: You need to hear Sean Comes talk about how I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: got here. Do I need for him to tell the
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: story of his childhood?
• 47:40
  Speaker 10: Yes, you do, Nancy, because that's part of the mommy
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: and daddy.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: Because I'm a sex trafficker, excuse me, a pimp.
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: A judge needs to weigh all the mitigating and aggravating factors.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: That means the things that.
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: Go into favor and things that go against him.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Sidney Sandridge arning me Crime Stories, investigative reporter, Isn't it true?
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: In court yesterday the defense tried to force a bail
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: hearing yesterday so Comes could get out on bail immediately,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: and as part of that, they said something about he
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: has to go home and take care of his elderly mother.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Was that the one in court in the zebra print outfit?
• 48:18
  Speaker 18: Absolutely green and cream zebra print. They argued that Colmes
• 48:24
  Speaker 18: needs to be an exception to mandatory holding for the
• 48:28
  Speaker 18: Man Act because of his responsibilities as a father and son.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm glad you told me that.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: To doctor Sherry Schwartz, joining US renowned forensic psychologist specializing in
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: this capital mitigation and victim advocacy. You can find her
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: online at panther mitigation dot com on Twitter at trial Doc.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: She's the author of Criminal Behavior and I really like
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: this one where law and psychology inter issues with legal psychology.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: Not to denigrate the.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Other guests, but saving the best for last, not to
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Sherry Schwartz has to take care of his elderly mom.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: She's been in court totally decked out like a fashion model,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: walking the runway on fashion week every date.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: Not judging. She's gorgeous, she's beautiful, but she does not
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: need looking after inn Oh and what is this about?
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: He needs to be there to take care of his children.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Where were his children during all those free costs and
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: all the traveling all around the world so he could
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: evade justice and a free cost in other country hotels.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: That's exactly right.
• 49:43
  Speaker 19: There are many criminal defendants who need to take care
• 49:45
  Speaker 19: of their elderly or sickly loved ones and their children,
• 49:49
  Speaker 19: and yet they don't get a defense lawyer who stands
• 49:52
  Speaker 19: up in the courtroom and says with a straight face, Oh,
• 49:55
  Speaker 19: he needs an exception to the rules that apply to
• 49:58
  Speaker 19: the rest of the mere mortal war world. Because he
• 50:02
  Speaker 19: has money and fame and a life to live. This
• 50:05
  Speaker 19: mitigation that I'm hearing so far is offensive. It offends
• 50:09
  Speaker 19: the senses. And to me, if he wants to donate
• 50:14
  Speaker 19: some of his millions of dollars to domestic violence shelters
• 50:18
  Speaker 19: that exist already, wonderful, that could be good mitigation for him.
• 50:23
  Speaker 19: But to suggest that he should control opening his own
• 50:27
  Speaker 19: domestic violent shelters because he loves women and he cares
• 50:30
  Speaker 19: about what happens to women, this lacks all credibility and
• 50:34
  Speaker 19: it's patently offensive, and it just seems to feed into
• 50:38
  Speaker 19: the narcissistic qualities that have come out about him in
• 50:42
  Speaker 19: this trial.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: He Santika has been some of his millions.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Try this shee on billions, billions, as in brother billions
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: of dollars. Doctor Sherry, you know we were talking earlier,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Doctor Sherry guys bet me, doctor Sherry Schwartz, forensics psychologist,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: about how many people I believe, including the jury like.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: They did in the O. J.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Simpson case, like they did in the Michael Jackson case,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: are blinded by fame.
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, Michael Jackson is one.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Of the most talented musicians, frankly that have lived in
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: our lifetime. Okay, many people put in right up there
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: with Elvis, but that did not take away from the claims.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: But the jury saw Jackson for the star that he was.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: The jury saw Simpson for the star that he was,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: and a star can be blinding, and I believe that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I believe that's what happened in this case.
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: I agree with you, Nancy.
• 51:44
  Speaker 19: There's a sense that we have when there are well
• 51:47
  Speaker 19: known celebrities that find contact with the criminal justice system
• 51:51
  Speaker 19: and go on trial, that we already know them. The
• 51:53
  Speaker 19: same happened with oj Simpson. We feel like, oh, we
• 51:57
  Speaker 19: know this person. You know, this is the guy running
• 51:59
  Speaker 19: through the airport with a nice smile on his face
• 52:02
  Speaker 19: trying to catch his plane for the car rental commercials.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: So that overshadows I.
• 52:08
  Speaker 19: Think in many ways, for a lot of people, the
• 52:11
  Speaker 19: evidence that they're hearing at trial, And in this particular case,
• 52:15
  Speaker 19: it was probably pretty difficult to find people that didn't
• 52:17
  Speaker 19: already have some knowledge of Sean Combs and what he
• 52:23
  Speaker 19: was famous for and his connection to other celebrities and
• 52:26
  Speaker 19: being a music mogul. That probably overshadowed it. But the
• 52:29
  Speaker 19: other thing, Nancy, is that a lot of times jurors.
• 52:33
  Speaker 19: They do see it like your story that you shared
• 52:36
  Speaker 19: earlier about the juror who said this is the best
• 52:38
  Speaker 19: thing that ever happened to her. They say this as
• 52:40
  Speaker 19: an opportunity. Oh, I can sit on this trial as
• 52:43
  Speaker 19: a juror and it can be a money making opportunity
• 52:46
  Speaker 19: for me, or give me some proximity to fame down
• 52:50
  Speaker 19: the road.
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: And that's a problem, that's a big problem.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: You're right, doctor Sherry Schwartz.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Doctor Dwayne Hendrix is with us former associate Warden, MDC
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Doctor Hendrix, now that we know exactly what
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: convictions came down on Combs, does that give you a
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: better sense? And they are non bondable offenses, so I
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: don't know how the defense is going to try to
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: get around that in the next three business days when comes.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Is back in court.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: But that said, now that you know the counts on
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: which was convicted, does that alter your opinion as to
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: which pen which CI Correctional Institute penitentiary he will live
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: in as his forever home slightly?
• 53:39
  Speaker 17: Because in previous episodes we talked about if he was
• 53:42
  Speaker 17: convicted of the higher offenses such as rico or racketeering
• 53:46
  Speaker 17: or sex trafficking, he would probably end up in a
• 53:48
  Speaker 17: maximum or high security facility, but since he was convicted
• 53:52
  Speaker 17: of the lesser charges, most likely he will end up
• 53:56
  Speaker 17: at a low security facility, or perhaps, depending on which
• 54:01
  Speaker 17: way the judge goes, if he's sentenced to less than
• 54:04
  Speaker 17: two and a half years, he may actually end up
• 54:06
  Speaker 17: spending his time at NBC Brooklyn as a work cadre
• 54:11
  Speaker 17: or a trustee within the building. So, but more likely
• 54:14
  Speaker 17: he'll probably end up at a low security facility within
• 54:19
  Speaker 17: five hundred miles of his designated release address. So I
• 54:23
  Speaker 17: don't know if he's going to tell him he wants
• 54:25
  Speaker 17: to release to his Los Angeles home, his Miami home,
• 54:28
  Speaker 17: or New York, and there are several low security institutions
• 54:32
  Speaker 17: in all of those areas within five hundred miles.
• 54:35
  Speaker 16: So that's my prediction at this point.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: Doctor Hendrix.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Isn't it true that since Seawn comes beat three of
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: the five charges, he will now be considered king of
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: the inmates behind bars?
• 54:48
  Speaker 16: No, he will not be considered a king behind me.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Will, Yes, he will. The other inmates are going to
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: look up to him and celebrate him. He's going to
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: be king of the inmates.
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: He is well.
• 54:59
  Speaker 16: I mean, I respect your opinion, but I just don't
• 55:02
  Speaker 16: see it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 17: I mean in a sense that they may feel good
• 55:05
  Speaker 17: about him beating the bigger charges, but there's no way
• 55:09
  Speaker 17: a sex offender now in a sense of it's not
• 55:12
  Speaker 17: like he's being convicted of sex trafficking, but he still
• 55:15
  Speaker 17: has the sex connotation with the charge.
• 55:18
  Speaker 16: So two things you don't want to be.
• 55:21
  Speaker 17: I've said this before, two things you don't want to
• 55:23
  Speaker 17: be in the prison setting or jill setting. One is
• 55:25
  Speaker 17: an informant and the other one is a sex offender,
• 55:28
  Speaker 17: and he fits one of those categories.
• 55:31
  Speaker 16: So no, he will not be the king of the institution.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: As we wait for justice to unfold and for Shawn
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: comes to be back in a court of law in
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the next few business days, we stop to remember an
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: American hero officer, Jared Friddle comb PD, just forty, killed
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: in the line of duty, survived by loving wife now widow, Carrie,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: and their five children sentenced to life without dada Mason, Jackson, Brayden,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: and Allison American hero officer Jared Friddle. Nancy Grace signing
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,